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Speaker 1: over time. That's how we start. One Bill Slide presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalada Health from One Bill's Drive. Good afternoon, everybody.

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Speaker 1: We're coming to Alive from Orchard Park where we got

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Speaker 1: a little bit of snow overnight. Uh. The field of

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Speaker 1: guys up here. Welcome to the show. John Murphy, Steve

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Speaker 1: we're here until three, is a matter of fact. John

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Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker welcome, good afternoon. Great, great to

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Speaker 1: have you on the show with us here today. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I feel one hundred percent that's what I did.

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Speaker 1: Washington Redskins season is just completely imploded. Good they lost? What? Good?

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Speaker 1: Why I hate that team? Why you hate that team

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Speaker 1: They do this every week and Josh Allen is a

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Speaker 1: and filled up Lendsy of the broncost for the PEPSI

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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Week this week. You can vote for

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Speaker 1: him too if you go to NFL dot com vote

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Speaker 1: for Josh Allen for the PEPSI Rookie of the Week. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. I was talking to some of the

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Speaker 1: that he took an enormous step in that game. That

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Speaker 1: just for perspective sake, no, No, they scored seventeen points.

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Speaker 1: They didn't light up the scoreboard at Miami. They scored

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Speaker 1: that's not a sustainable model for an offense moving forward.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to be playing offense like that next year.

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Speaker 1: At this time, Steve, you're not going anywhere with an

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Speaker 1: This is all they can do now is win this week, right,

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Speaker 1: That's hard to do in an NFL game, particularly when

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Speaker 1: That was the amazing thing to me. That's the encouraging

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Speaker 1: And it's also to your point. I mean, how you

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Speaker 1: As for the sustainability thing, I get your murf, okay,

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Speaker 1: but man, oh man, you know that's just the guy.

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Speaker 1: A couple of interest. It's awesome to think about. We

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night. They're playing Lamoie tomorrow and season ticket holder

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Speaker 1: we're using the ticks. I mean we're not. You're not eating,

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Speaker 1: on the air. Welcome to you many good to be

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Speaker 1: live with you. Thanks any Yesterday I listened to Steve's

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Speaker 1: You've watched enough Canadian football. Does it slow the game

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Speaker 1: down at all? Yes? It does. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: I want that then yes, yes, yes, I mean there

426
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Speaker 1: are times when that game just stops, I mean stops play.

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Speaker 1: Because then once you do that, then you the other

428
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Speaker 1: guy has to use his two. So the third quarter

429
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Speaker 1: can last an hour and fifteen minutes. Yeah, by itself.

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Speaker 1: So you can't do that. So that's the problem you see.

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Speaker 1: And Andy just called in. Andy called in and said,

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Speaker 1: you know, it looked to me on the replay that

433
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Speaker 1: you can see blatant pass interference. Well, if you do that,

434
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Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. They didn't call it. It can't and

435
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Speaker 1: they're not even if they called it, they can't reverse it.

436
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Speaker 1: The only thing they can reverse is the catch or

437
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Speaker 1: no catch. So that's the limitation on the rule right now.

438
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Speaker 1: And that's where it stands. Speaking of replays, we talked

439
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Speaker 1: about this yesterday. We talked about during the radio broadcast Sunday.

440
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Speaker 1: The Bills struggle with the effective replay challenges. They haven't

441
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Speaker 1: had a successful one yet this year. I think they're

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Speaker 1: over six and overall they are one for ten in

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Speaker 1: Sean mcdermot's two years. McDermott was asked about it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: How's it happen that you're one and one for ten

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Speaker 1: and your replay challenges and what can you do about it?

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Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say. Number One, you try

447
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Speaker 1: not to get caught up in the in the emotion

448
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Speaker 1: of the play. There's a lot of things that go

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Speaker 1: on with the emotion of a play, and especially when

450
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Speaker 1: you're at home, in the crowd and whatnot. But um,

451
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Speaker 1: then you get the best view I can from from

452
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Speaker 1: the position out man, and then I talk to my

453
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Speaker 1: guys up top there and and um. You know, there's

454
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Speaker 1: a lot of different reasons to challenge plays. Um. Sometimes

455
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Speaker 1: it's to create a spark. Sometimes it's like yesterday, points

456
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Speaker 1: potential points with respect to potential safety and and um.

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Speaker 1: And so you try and do what's in the best

458
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Speaker 1: interest of the team at all times. And sometimes you

459
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Speaker 1: feel good about taking a chance just to get another

460
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Speaker 1: look at it, you know. And um, certainly our success

461
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Speaker 1: in challenges is not where it needs to be. I

462
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Speaker 1: think across the league's dropped this year significantly. Um. But

463
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Speaker 1: that said, um, you know, I took a chance yesterday

464
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Speaker 1: trying to get points, um and uh and came up

465
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Speaker 1: short obviously, um so, but I knew we'd haven't pinned

466
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Speaker 1: down either way, and I have a chance for field

467
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Speaker 1: position to altering the process that you go through to

468
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Speaker 1: maybe you know, the decibote or not to challenge, to

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Speaker 1: maybe alter these successors. Yeah, yeah, obviously, I know that's

470
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Speaker 1: something when you're one out of ten on challenges, you

471
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Speaker 1: look at everything. Um, you know, I'm not sure that

472
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Speaker 1: that's wins or loses games, but it all adds in, right, Um,

473
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Speaker 1: where you burning time out when you'd like to have

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Speaker 1: one at the end of the first half, an extra

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Speaker 1: one to use there. So you look at it and

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Speaker 1: evaluate it, look at our process, to your to your

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Speaker 1: question and uh, and then ultimately it's my responsibility to

478
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Speaker 1: throw the flag or not. So um, you know, I know,

479
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Speaker 1: like I said, the success rate this year is dropped

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Speaker 1: from what it was last year. So, um, I think

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Speaker 1: it's down about forty percent on challenges this year compared

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Speaker 1: to last year. So you know, so you just go

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Speaker 1: back and look at everything challenges, making sure our processes

484
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Speaker 1: right and the information that I'm getting. Um, so we're

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Speaker 1: going to continue to work. Conference. Let us there. You know,

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermot talking about their replay challenges. I didn't know that,

487
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Speaker 1: but I did not know that. I had not heard that.

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Speaker 1: But he said the success rate on replay challenges has

489
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Speaker 1: dropped from where it used to be. He said it's

490
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Speaker 1: about forty percent now. And I heard him say that

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Speaker 1: yesterday and I wondered, why would that be? I can

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Speaker 1: guess what why. Here's the thing, because they the only

493
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Speaker 1: the real reason guys want to challenge is change of

494
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Speaker 1: possession and scoring plays and they don't have to challenge

495
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Speaker 1: those those are automatically exactly. So the ones they're picking

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Speaker 1: to challenge now are the ones like is it the safeties?

497
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Speaker 1: And they're they're doing it for different reasons other than

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Speaker 1: than they would normally. I mean, those big plays, it's

499
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Speaker 1: always the big plays that they do it. They don't

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Speaker 1: want to waste it on a on a bad spot

501
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Speaker 1: and turning a third and three or third and eight

502
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Speaker 1: into a third and four. They're not interested in that,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're interested in change of possession in scoring plays,

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Speaker 1: so they don't have to do the ones that are

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Speaker 1: really important. And you know there's sometimes they don't. None

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Speaker 1: of the guys don't use challenges at all in these games.

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Speaker 1: But I think now they've got to the point where

508
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Speaker 1: it's those iffy and or whatever, are we going to

509
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Speaker 1: win it? Kind of they're more on the fringes of

510
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Speaker 1: the possibility of getting them turned over. The one thing

511
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Speaker 1: about the Bills, and yeah, this is mcdermot's tenure. I

512
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Speaker 1: think I don't have the numbers, and I could probably

513
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Speaker 1: spend some time and look it up, but it seems

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Speaker 1: to me they challenge the spot of the ball too often.

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Speaker 1: The Bills do, including that's close to being a safety

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, and it's just really hard to get them

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Speaker 1: to review where they spot the ball. They don't like

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Speaker 1: to change that for whatever reason. The referees or the

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Speaker 1: people in New York won't change that. Right, centralized replay review,

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Speaker 1: we'll look at it and say, no, that's spot's okay.

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Speaker 1: And the Bills, I think too often have tried to

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Speaker 1: get a different spot to buy a replay, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's where their failure rate comes when it comes

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Speaker 1: to a replay. The only way you win on a

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Speaker 1: spot is if they give you the first down. If

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Speaker 1: you do it on the spot, they respot it, they remeasure,

527
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Speaker 1: and you get a first down as a result. That's

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Speaker 1: when you win it and you get to keep your

529
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Speaker 1: other challenge or whatever, you keep your time out on that.

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Speaker 1: You know that's the only way, So it's not worth

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Speaker 1: it too. I mean, I'll give you an example. Dick

532
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Speaker 1: Giron was the head coach here in Buffalo is It

533
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: was a game here in New Air of Field. They

534
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Speaker 1: the opponent punts the ball and it comes down. It's

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Speaker 1: bouncing through a bunch of traffic. It ends up bouncing

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Speaker 1: through a bunch of guys, gets down, They down and

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Speaker 1: inside the four yard layer inside the five is like

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Speaker 1: on the two yard line. Well, on replay, it shows

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Speaker 1: that it hit one of the cover the opponent builds

540
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Speaker 1: opponents who are covering the punt. It hit him like

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Speaker 1: at the twenty two. Well that's first touch. The ball

542
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Speaker 1: would have been at the twenty two. But they don't

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Speaker 1: challenge that. You challenge because for whatever reason, if they

544
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Speaker 1: if they change it and put it out there, you

545
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Speaker 1: don't win the challenge, you don't get to keep it

546
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Speaker 1: because it doesn't give you a first down, and you

547
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Speaker 1: get a first down anyway, So they end up taking

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Speaker 1: the ball on their two instead of getting it at

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Speaker 1: the twenty two. You know, it's all this stuff that

550
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Speaker 1: all these layers go into it about. Even if you

551
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Speaker 1: win it, you don't win it, you know. Yeah, now

552
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: that to me, a twenty two year, twenty yard difference

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Speaker 1: in field position. That's worth a time out to me.

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00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: But you know, you get at But they decided not

555
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: to in that situation and ended up just being as

556
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Speaker 1: called on the field. But the official missed it bouncing

557
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: through the traffic and touching a guy at the twenty

558
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: two and it bounced all the way down inside. So

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Speaker 1: you know, there's all kinds of this this challenge thing is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're done with that. It's gonna it's

561
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: gonna evolve further, I think, I mean, and I hope

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Speaker 1: it does. I just I think they're gonna give them

563
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Speaker 1: more freedom to challenge more things. And I think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna give them freedom to challenge more things. The one

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Speaker 1: thing that we're talking about now and with these challenges,

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Speaker 1: the bang bang plays when the officials come in to

567
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Speaker 1: talk to the teams, you know, and they do every year.

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Speaker 1: They talk about, listen, it's a bang bang play. We're

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Speaker 1: not gonna call a bang bang play in favor of anybody.

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna let it go. If it's bang bang,

571
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Speaker 1: we're not gonna go. What that means is like on

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Speaker 1: the Zay Jones sideline catch, it happened so fast in

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Speaker 1: real life, in real time, it looked like it was

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Speaker 1: bang bang, meaning the defender might have got there a

575
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Speaker 1: hair too early, and technically speaking, it is a foul.

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Speaker 1: You cannot touch him until he has the ball. But

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Speaker 1: they get there and it happened so fast it's impossible

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Speaker 1: to judge if it was that fast and if it's

579
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Speaker 1: bang bang, So they let that go. So the officials

580
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: have always given the defense the benefit of the doubt

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Speaker 1: on a bang bang play. Well, if you go back

582
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: and review it and go at slow motion, technically you

583
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: got to call that as a foul. And that's what

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Speaker 1: showed in the Zay Jones back shoulder throw and on Sunday,

585
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Speaker 1: if you're gonna go back and review that is a penalty,

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Speaker 1: then it does become a foul. I think forget about

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Speaker 1: Bang Bang Am I right, you might be right. I

588
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Speaker 1: think that's a big concession on your part. Mark that down,

589
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: Mark that down there in the control room that Mark

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Speaker 1: MERVH told me I might be right here. What is it?

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Speaker 1: December fourth, eighteen. Hey, we're gonna take a break in

592
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Speaker 1: the fourth. We're gonna take a break and we come back.

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Speaker 1: We're in studio with an interview we recorded just an

594
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Speaker 1: hour so ago. Jeremiah Searles builds offensive lineman, just signed

595
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: to the roster late September, got the start last Sunday

596
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Speaker 1: at Right Guard. We'll talk with him about that, about

597
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: his background and a couple of other things. He's coming

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Speaker 1: up next. One goes live from One Bill's Drive and

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Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back, One Bill's Live

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Speaker 1: from One Ville's Driver and our separate studio or our

601
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Speaker 1: backup studio, John Murphy's team tasker and Bill's offensive lineman,

602
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Seils. Jeremiah going to meet you. Good to me.

603
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Speaker 1: I absolutely appreciate you have me on. You've been around

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Speaker 1: here a couple of months and we haven't had a

605
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: chance to say hi yet, and all of a sudden,

606
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Speaker 1: you're a starter. How did that feel the other day.

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Speaker 1: It was fun. It was fun to get back out there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously not the result that we were looking for,

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Speaker 1: but it felt good personally get back out there on

610
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Speaker 1: the field, Get back out there and try to help

611
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Speaker 1: this team. Yad, what tell me a little bit about

612
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: the vibe on the on the field. It was because

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00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: it was a back and forth game. It was a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch this game, no matter who

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Speaker 1: you were cheering from. And you know, it was kind

616
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Speaker 1: of a seesaw battle. How did you guys handle it

617
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Speaker 1: up front? What was the vibe? You know, when it

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00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: was going good and when it was going bad. I

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Speaker 1: thought that this was a really good thing for us

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Speaker 1: as a team to battle through a game like this.

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Speaker 1: We haven't had a lot of close, tight fit, back

622
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Speaker 1: and forth games like this this year. And though we

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Speaker 1: didn't get to win, I think we learned from it.

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Speaker 1: And we're a young football team. We got some young

625
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Speaker 1: talent back there. I mean, Josh is a young guy

626
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: who's gonna be a star in this league for a

627
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Speaker 1: long time. And to have that as gut it out time,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we knew our defense when we missed the

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Speaker 1: field goal, We're like you know we're gonna get another

630
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Speaker 1: shot at this. Like, we trusted our defense and so

631
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Speaker 1: we were all out there like gut check time. Boys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, because it was hot and we were grinding,

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Speaker 1: and they were tired and we were tired. It was

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Speaker 1: just who was going to break first. And I mean,

635
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Speaker 1: to have the opportunity there at the end to win

636
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: it and not take advantage of it hurts. But I

637
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: think that in the long run, we're gonna learn from

638
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: this game. When he mentioned Josh, I mean, everybody's you know,

639
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: his development has been a big key issue for fans

640
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: watching the team and how's he gonna be to when

641
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: you're blocking for him? And this is a game where

642
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: it was like, did you guys, when you're blocked form

643
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: you see him out there doing all this stuff? Do

644
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: you turn around going, oh, I see, I see what

645
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: we got here? You know, and now I gotta you know,

646
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: you kind of change your mindset about the kind of

647
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: guy you've got behind you as an offensive line. Yeah,

648
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: I mean, anytime you have a quarterback that can move

649
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: like that, it puts the defense a little bit on

650
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: their heels. I mean, and in the last two weeks,

651
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: I think Josh's rushed for one hundred and something and

652
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: then one hundred and thirty five last week. I mean,

653
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: so now teams are gonna be like, Okay, we have

654
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: to respect this guy on the ground, so we can't

655
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: just send all out pressure at him, or we can't

656
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: we got to stay in our rushed lanes. And so

657
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: it'll change the way the teams rush him. But it

658
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: also he's an offensive onan's best friend because he'd get

659
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: yourself in trouble, he can get out of the way.

660
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 1: And I know, I mean personally, I didn't have my

661
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: best game sometimes a past protection so get he bailed

662
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: me out a few times. But it was It's awesome

663
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: to see him develop, even just from what I got

664
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: here from the first game I was here is the

665
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: Green Bay game, and then to see where he's at now,

666
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: and I especially seeing him sit for those few weeks

667
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 1: and how he watched and learned. I mean, one thing

668
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: I will say that I think an unsung hero of

669
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: this year is Derek Anderson. I think him coming in.

670
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, you had Nate

671
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: Peterman and Josh as a quarterback room a year one

672
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: in a year two, that's tough. I mean you don't

673
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: have a guy that's been around seeing how to work

674
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: a room, how to work a practice, how to work

675
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 1: And when Derek came in, I think that Josh just

676
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: took a step back and just watched and watched how

677
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: he operated, how he did things, how he watched tape,

678
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: And I honestly think that him coming in helped Josh's

679
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: development a ton, right. You know, German, it's funny you

680
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: mentioned it because I was. I mean, what we do

681
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: is observe, and I was observing Derek Anderson over the

682
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: last a week or so and he hasn't played. He's

683
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: still in concussion protocol, but he's got kind of an interesting,

684
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: low key demeanor and he sort of walks around, floats around,

685
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: talks to everybody, but he's not like overwhelming. I bet

686
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: that's works well with those young quarterbacks right absolutely to

687
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: you can. I think he's kind of a buffer. I

688
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: mean he's I mean, he's been in the league so long,

689
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: he's seen so much that if you have a question,

690
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: you can ask him and he'll be able to give

691
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: you a different point of view than if you were

692
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: to go ask the offensive coordinator or your position coach.

693
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: Because he's still kind of newer to the whole thing,

694
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: and he's played some of these guys before, He's played

695
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: these defensive coordinators as a quarterback before, and so I

696
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: think having him around and having how he talks to

697
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: the guys and how he can help has been huge

698
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: for the development of that room. Let's talk about yours,

699
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: Stid here, And as you said, your first game was

700
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: Green Bay. You came in the first what four games

701
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: or so, is like, you know, the others receiver, the

702
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: extra guy. Yeah, talk about that role and what that

703
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: means to you when you've gone out there in that room. Yeah. So,

704
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean when I first got here, it was the

705
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: Green Bay game. I didn't actually suit up for that

706
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: game because I'd only been here for a week. And

707
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: then I was able the next week to catch onto

708
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: the offense enough that I was the heavy tight end.

709
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: And so any chance you get to go into the

710
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: games a fun time. And especially when you get to

711
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: go in and you know that the defense knows you're

712
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball, you're most likely gonna run the ball,

713
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: you can kind of come off and hammer these d ns.

714
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: It's a tight end position is nice, but then it's

715
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: also nice like in the Jets game when you change

716
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: it up and you go in there and defense sucks

717
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: up and we throw two over their heads for big

718
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: players to Roberts. So it's fun. I think that our

719
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: offensive quarter does a great job as far as mixing

720
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: me in there with that type of stuff. And now

721
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: that I actually got chance to go in there and

722
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: play some, it's been nice to really kind of feel

723
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: like I'm contributing to this Bills eligible. Oh, I mean

724
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: maybe one of these days. I mean we threw it

725
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: to Dion, so I mean, you never know. And this

726
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: past week at Miami, you played guard right more comfortable

727
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: guard tacklem if you played both. So I played both.

728
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: So I ended up actually getting my first start in

729
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: the NFL in twenty fourteen with the Chargers at right

730
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 1: guard Week seventeen against the Chiefs. And then the next

731
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: year I went to Minnesota and didn't play at all

732
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: because first the two that they had their entire five

733
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: starting offensive line stay healthy for the entire year, which

734
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: is incredible. Then the next year was the exact opposite.

735
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: We couldn't stay healthy to save our lives. So I

736
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: ended up starting around eight games at right tackle, three

737
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: games at left guard, and then last year I started

738
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: six games at left guard. So I've kind of been

739
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: all over the map as far as it goes. And

740
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: I learned very young age coach Joe Delesandres, He's a

741
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: Baltimore's O line coach. Now here's my rookie O line coach,

742
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: and he said, the more you can do, the long

743
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 1: you can stay. Yeah, and so I kind of took

744
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: that to heart really and was like, you know what,

745
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna become guy that it's so versatile you can't

746
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: get rid of me. Jo was here for a couple

747
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: of years. He's a great guy, gav Yeah, I mean,

748
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 1: he's an amazing coach. He's a great guy. I still

749
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: get text from him on every holiday, say Jeremiah, thinking

750
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: of you. And I mean even if I haven't been

751
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: with him for so many years, but so yeah, I

752
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: mean I would say, more comfortable wherever I get to

753
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: work that week. And so it was nice to I've

754
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: been working a lot of tackle, but getting the chance

755
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: to play some guards this week was cool. One quick

756
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: Jodi story. Every when he was here, it was a

757
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: couple of years. Every road game he and I would

758
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: always meet on the plane flying home and just stand

759
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: there by the man's room usually because that's where you

760
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: can stand and talk for like a half hour every

761
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: road trip flying at home. But and we didn't talk

762
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: about football, by the way, talk about family and how

763
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: I still say, you know, he was only here for

764
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: a couple of years, and I'm you know, I'm in

765
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: and out of the building. Yeah, he's still in Baltimore.

766
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: I still see him. And every time I do a

767
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: Baltimore game, We've had a couple this year with my

768
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: crew on CBS. He always makes a point to come

769
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: home and say, Hey, how's it going, And he's about

770
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: guys in Buffalo, And it's amazing the relationships you form.

771
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: And a guy like you've been in Minnesote, he'd been

772
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: in San Diego. You do have friends all over the league,

773
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: and you never know where they're gonna pop up because

774
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: they're career has taken another path. Absolutely. I mean I

775
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: tell people all the time that the NFL is like

776
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: a fraternity kind of because everyone. I mean, for my

777
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: rookie year, I look around. I got guys in Baltimore,

778
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: got coaches that are in Indianapolis now, and like it's

779
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: just crazy to think about how everyone just spreads out

780
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: because the turnover is so crazy in the NFL that

781
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: you literally have people that you know all over the

782
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: place with Jeremiah Searlesville's offensive lineman, who's joined us here

783
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: in our backup studio or our secondary of studio. Tell

784
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: me about getting the running game going. I know it's

785
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,919
Speaker 1: been a focus of attention for a couple of weeks.

786
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: There was a good game against the Jets last time

787
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: you played the Jets. What can you do to get

788
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: things going again? You know, get Shady going in basically, Yeah,

789
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: I mean we're so close in the run game, and

790
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: I know people hate hearing that, but we are. I mean,

791
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: it's a game of inches for a reason. I Mean,

792
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: we had a couple of in the Miami game where

793
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: Shady's one step here, we're one block away here, and

794
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: it's frustrating that we're doing that, but we're just gonna

795
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: keep working at it. I mean, we've had a couple

796
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: of shift changes in the old line, getting chemistry going again.

797
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: And now we're gonna have Russell or Russell with Russell

798
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: being out and now he got Groy in there, and

799
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: hopefully we get John back this week. If not, hope

800
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: that can step in and continue to play well for him,

801
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: and we just got to keep working at and keep

802
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: chipping at it. And I can say this it's not

803
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: for a lack of effort or trying, because I see

804
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: these guys in practice. I see how hard we work

805
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: and it's close. And I think that games like the

806
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: Jets games can be the norm here if we just

807
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: keep working at and keep getting better and better with

808
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: the reads, with the blocks, with everything, and that having

809
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: Josh is a running threat too is going to really

810
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: help us as well. What does change when something like

811
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: what happened in the Miami game when Russ Bodin goes down.

812
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,439
Speaker 1: Don't know how bad it is, but he's out. Doesn't

813
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: look like he's gonna come back in the game. Who

814
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: you know, nobody knows what the injury is, but you

815
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: know he's out. Groy comes in. You guys, there's no

816
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 1: question you've taken zero reps with a five offensive lineman

817
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: in that combination with you. So how do you like? Okay, guys, Yeah,

818
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: let's go. I mean, because you don't have any time

819
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: to even have a conversation. It's just a little lie contact, shrug,

820
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: nod and let's go. Yeah, I mean, the one thing

821
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: that I did learn and I'm sure Groy has learned too,

822
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: is you always have to prepare like you're a starter

823
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: because you are the play away. And so that was

824
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: one thing that me and Groy both went in there

825
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: mentally knowing what we were doing. We were on the

826
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: same page. We had a couple of communication errors, but

827
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean, for the most part, we were all together,

828
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: and so you get guys like that together. The other

829
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: good thing is we work together on the scout team.

830
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: A lot of times people don't understand that, yeah, that

831
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: five has been together, but the backups do. We do

832
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: work together when we're going on the scout team, and

833
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: it might not be in the calls and everything that

834
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: our offense is running, but you kind of learn how

835
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: to get fits with that guy or how he comes

836
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: off the ball. So me and Grove played next to

837
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: each other a couple of times, which is nice. And

838
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean, even going back all the way twenty fourteen,

839
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: we played next to each other in the East West

840
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: Shrine Bowl Game Wisconsin and ros. Yeah, so we always

841
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: joked about maybe we'll play together one day, and here

842
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: we are. So I mean, but it's just hard. I mean,

843
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: you got to prepare like you're a starter, because you

844
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: just never know when your time or when your number

845
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: is gonna be called. And I always say that opportunities

846
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: come few and far and in between in this league,

847
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: and when you get yours, you got to make sure

848
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: you make the most of it. But cheremine Searles Bill's

849
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. You had those three years in Minnesota and

850
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: you played with Adrian Peterson, right, and that was the

851
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: post surgical aid Peterson, right, Yeah, tell us tell us

852
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: about that. What was he like? And can you compare

853
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: him at all to McCoy what you've seen here from Shady? Yeah,

854
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that Adrian's game is a little

855
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: different than Shady's in the fact that Adrian is a

856
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: true first and second down back. I mean, when he's

857
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: in the backfield, he's going to get the ball and

858
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: hit it in between the tackles and go for sure

859
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: to where his Shady's got a little more of that.

860
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: He could hit it on the outside and really make

861
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: guys miss and go the distance. And but playing with

862
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: two great backs like that that I've had the I

863
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: mean privilege to play with his really cool. I mean

864
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: I grew up watching both those backs. I mean I

865
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: got to watch Shady when he was in Philly doing

866
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: his thing, and I got to watch Adrian in Minnesota

867
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: growing up, and to get to be on the same

868
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: field those guys in block fiellose guys, do you know

869
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: that you are always have the home run threat? Like

870
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: no matter what. Those guys can take it to the

871
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: distance at any time, which is really fun to block.

872
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: We can take it to the distance. Did you see

873
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: Peterson last night? What do you think of that? I mean,

874
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: if you watch it, people are like, man, he's still

875
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: got it. Dude's taking two strides every five yards, which

876
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: is really actually pretty incredible when you look at it.

877
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: And did he doing it at his age? Is a

878
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: pretty cool. So early on in the week you're starting

879
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: to turn your toes. How easy is it, particularly a

880
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: loss like that you took in Miami where you you

881
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: thought the balls in the air, you think, wow, we

882
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: got it right. Then it doesn't turn out that way?

883
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: How do you? Because me I had I was telling

884
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: him we were laughing yesterday. I had trouble putting that

885
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: one to bed because those are hard, they are How

886
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: do you turn around and okay, now we got the

887
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: Jets this week. We just played him a few weeks ago,

888
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: a little bit of plus for that and getting ready

889
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: for him. But you know, how do you put the

890
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: one to bed and open the book on the other.

891
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: It's kind of just comes with being a pro. You

892
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: got to learn. It's the twenty four hour rule, as

893
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: we all talk about. You get twenty four hours to

894
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: either celebrate or you get twenty four hours to other

895
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: see what went wrong, make the corrections, and then move on.

896
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: And then I always use Tuesday as a reset button.

897
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: I come in, I start looking at the opponent, I

898
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: look at like our initial run game, I look at

899
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: some of the protection game, get a lift in, get

900
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of a sweat in, and then go

901
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: home and spend time with my wife and kind of regroup,

902
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: and then come in Wednesday with a fresh face, ready

903
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: to go, knowing that you did everything to correct from

904
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: the game, you did everything to get a jump start

905
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: this week, and then start rolling right away because the

906
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: NFL waits for no one. Jets have had their troubles,

907
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: but it's still a pretty good run front. Absolutely and

908
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams and are yeah, I mean their their defense

909
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: is I mean, I think they're still ranked fairly high.

910
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: I mean they struggle a little bit on offense rookie quarterback,

911
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: but on defense they got some playmakers with Jamal Adams

912
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: and Leonard Williams up front there, so I mean they're

913
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: solid defense. We'll ever handsful again. Hey, this is a

914
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: big week around here with my cause, my cleats, and

915
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: you're involved in that, right, You're gonna have special shoes

916
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: on this week to benefit the Tyson's Treasure Chess back

917
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: in Nebraska where he went to college. Tell us about that. Yeah, So,

918
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: Tyson's Treader Chest is a foundation that I've been close

919
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: with since about twenty ten. Tyson was a young boy

920
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: that his maker wish was he had brain cancer, and

921
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: his maker wish was to come too of the Husker

922
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: facility because when you live in Nebraska, the Huskers are

923
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: they can do mann And so myself and a group

924
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: of my teammates we actually got to meet Tyson and

925
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: his parents live in Austin and take him for a

926
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: two round. And I don't know if you've ever been

927
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: to Nebraska, but we have a horseshoe that's up on

928
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: the wall that you can hit as you walk out

929
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: to the field and I'll never forget I got to

930
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: pick Tyson up out of his wheelchair and he was

931
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: so small and frail from his things that could pick

932
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: him up with one hand and got to hit at

933
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: the horse and there's a cool picture of it, and

934
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: I was just like, man, this is this is this

935
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: is near and dear to me. And he actually passed

936
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: away about a year later, and I stay close with

937
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: his family. We have the Team Jack Gala which is

938
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: in Nebraska every year, which is a pediatric brain cancer

939
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: through another foundation called Team Jack. And we wanted to

940
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: stay close with Liz and Austin, so we stay close

941
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: with them and had them, I said, at our table

942
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: every year for the gala, and we actually became on

943
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: the board of directors with them this past year. For

944
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: their foundation, Tysons Treasure Chest, and we raise money to

945
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: fill actual treasure chests with toys and we take the

946
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: toys to the Lincoln or to the Omaha Children's Hospital

947
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: and that the kids have toys so that they have

948
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: something to play with, so that when they're they're going

949
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: through their chemos or they're they're going through this stuff

950
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: that is hard on them, that maybe their brothers and

951
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 1: sisters can come play too, that they're that they're there too,

952
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: I mean they're not. They don't get seen a lot

953
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: when things are going on. So we also have a

954
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: golf tournament that we do every single year. We raised

955
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: over twenty five thousand dollars last year at our golf

956
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: tournament for pediatric brain cancer. And so just to something

957
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: that's near and dear to my heart, I mean, I

958
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: love Liz and Austin. They're coming up for the game

959
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: this week. To be able to come out to the

960
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: field and see them, and they're like family to us.

961
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: And so we just continue to keep working to fight

962
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: this disease because it's just awful what it can happen.

963
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: To think the kids, it's a great cause you're you've

964
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: been here too much. What were you gonna take them?

965
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: What are you gonna what did you What have you

966
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: found in Buffalo? What have the highlights you didn't touch?

967
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll have to go see Niagara, because that's

968
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: that's something I actually I haven't seen it yet, but

969
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: my parents came and my wife and went out there

970
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: and then uh Opie's Social House is actually one of

971
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: our favorite places to go eat at. It's a a

972
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: solid place, so not sure. I mean, we haven't made

973
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: it downtown much, but uh, we're just kind of mozying around.

974
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: But we really really like we made it to a

975
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: Sabers game yet not yet. That's definitely on the way.

976
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and uh yeah, you know, I'll tell you

977
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: that's Football's mark. I think hockey is a great live sport.

978
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: I love and it's and go down with it. In

979
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: a town like Buffalo where people love their teams, it's

980
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: even better. It's incredible to see hockey players because without

981
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: their pads on, they're not very big. They're like me.

982
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean they're little, but they're they're tough. Yeah, I

983
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, hey, Jeremiah, thanks appreciate Jeremis Searles, Bills

984
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: offensive line, and Stephen I coming back with more. One

985
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: Does Live from One Bill's Ride on Buffalo Bills. Ready go,

986
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. One Does Live from One

987
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: Goals Drive. I'm John Murphy's sitting next to Steve Tasker.

988
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: We had a good conversation moments ago with Jeremiah Searles.

989
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: I like that guy, Steve. I hope he sticks around.

990
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: I hope he plays better. He even a minute he

991
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: didn't play that well against the uh, the Dolphins on Sunday.

992
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: But he got a chance, and we'll see if he

993
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: gets another chance. It all kind of depends on what

994
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: John Miller's status is. But I like the guy. Yeah,

995
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: I can see him fitting in here from a cultural sense.

996
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: Its well cultural sense, yeah, but I mean, let's face

997
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: it to him. I mean, the team got a high

998
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: aspiration and they're gonna have you know, you gotta play well,

999
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: stay here, you gotta be that kind of guy and

1000
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: play well. We've seen him churn the roster everywhere. I

1001
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: mean we're talking about Stephen Haushka. They've changed his holder

1002
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: out three times, you know, because the punter can't get it.

1003
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: You know, they're having trouble punting now now by Orc

1004
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: has got hurt. But nevertheless, I mean they're they're trying

1005
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: to find ways to get better all the time, and

1006
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: and there's a ripple effect that goes across the roster.

1007
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, Jeremie Searles got a chance to start this

1008
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: last week in a game that Gosh Bills and me

1009
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 1: and me, I feel like Bill should have won, and

1010
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: so something to be optimistic about. There's a tweet here here.

1011
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: It is from John Alcock, who says each week Brandon

1012
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: Bean is brought in defensive players to help his defense,

1013
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: but he has not running any players to help the

1014
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: weakest part of the team, the on line. Why I

1015
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: would submit to John Alcock that he has including the

1016
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: guy would just talked to Jeremiah Searles. I Buttger came

1017
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: in the offensive lineman. Look, you're not gonna get the

1018
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: you know, you're not gonna get a great offensive linemender

1019
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: in the middle of the year. But I do think

1020
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: that they have brought in some offensive line players to

1021
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,240
Speaker 1: try to help. You know, um, butker I mentioned Jeremiah Cyrils.

1022
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: They've got Wyatt Teller now in the starting lineup at guard.

1023
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: They're trying, and they're bringing somebody this week most most

1024
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: likely when you know, because of the injury and to Bodine,

1025
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna try somebody. You would think, so, yeah, I

1026
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: think that's not correct. I think they have brought an

1027
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: offensive arman. You're not going to get a premium Pro

1028
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: Bowl offensive lineman in the middle of the season, and

1029
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: rest assured, yeah, you're not gonna lines right at or

1030
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: near the top of their list of needs. I wouldn't

1031
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: be surprised if that's the first thing they go after

1032
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 1: when free agency opens next March. Yeah, you're not. Listen,

1033
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: You're not gonna You're not gonna find a young Anthony

1034
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: Munios or a young Tony Basselli, a young Jackie Slater

1035
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: on the on the street right now. You've got to

1036
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: go with guys that are out there, and then you've

1037
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: got to get them acclimated and it and it takes

1038
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: some time, There's no doubt about it. So make no mistake.

1039
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: As much effort as we've seen the Bill Front Office

1040
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: put into UM plugging in fast wide receivers on the

1041
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: outside on offense, you're they're putting the same amount of

1042
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: effort in on their offensive line. They're everywhere, you know,

1043
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: nobody has exempted. Say a couple of phone calls here,

1044
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: I've been in Buffalo. Hello, I've been welcome to the show.

1045
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: You're on the air with us. Why, Hello, guys, how

1046
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: you guys going to day? Okay? Good? Okay? So uh Watson, Josh,

1047
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: I'll understand his progress or something really excited about UM.

1048
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at and I'm looking at what we

1049
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: still have at receivers, and I know that you know

1050
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 1: the Bills have tried to make some changes. They add

1051
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: more speed, but with receivers are coming out in the

1052
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: draft and particularly Paris Campbell from Ohio State. Um, do

1053
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: you think that you know, wide receiver is still a

1054
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: primary need on the Bills right now? Um? And if so,

1055
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: do you think Paris Campbell is someone that, uh, that

1056
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: they should look at maybe in the later first round

1057
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: or on the top of the second Monesty's still there. Well,

1058
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Yes, on the wide receiver. They will

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00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: be looking for wide receivers in the draft and in

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00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: free agency in all the other places. Pierce Pierce Campbell,

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's not that time a year

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00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 1: for me. I know Ohio State's got some athletic guys.

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00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what Pierce Campbell, how he plays. I

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00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: don't know what his statistics are, what his measurables are.

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing that ivan if this is what

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00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 1: you're looking for, if you're a Pierce Campbell fan, I

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00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: don't know if you know the guy or really just

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00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: like him, it's gonna if he wants to get drafted,

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00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: the higher he gets drafted, the more physically gifted, you

1070
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: can bet that he is Now, if he's a big dude,

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00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: the Bills are already on that train with Kelvin Benjamin.

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00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: He's a big He's bigger than any wide receiver in

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00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: the National Football League. The thing that the Bills are

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00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: missing is speed, and that's what they've been trying to

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00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: plug in. So if your guy Pierce Campbell is a

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00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: fast guy and a route runner, he's in the running,

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00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: no question about it. If he's got the measurables, if

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00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: he's big enough, fast enough, runs good routes enough, has

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Speaker 1: good enough hands and for this, for this coaching staff,

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00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: if he's the right kind of guy, yeah, I'm sure

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00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: he'll be on their radar, absolutely, no question about it.

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00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: Thanks very much for your call. Will take your call

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00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: here from Steve in Rochester. Hello, see, welcome, you're on

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00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: the air with us. Hello all right, Steve, oh, yes, hello,

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00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: thank you for taking my call. Guys, here's my question.

1086
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 1: It's fourth and short r at in midfield, and there's

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00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: two situations where I feel we kind of let down

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00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: our offense. Fourth and short New England Monday night football

1089
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: games twelve to six, and we don't go for it

1090
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: with all that home field energy. I feel like we

1091
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: just wait an opportunity to keep Brady off the field.

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00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: If you make that fourth down. Now we're in a

1093
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: scoring position, and you know punting isn't going to save

1094
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: our defense either, because the punt won't be more than

1095
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: thirty yards on average. And then just again here Sunday

1096
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: against the Dolphin, same situation. And now I got Josh

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00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: Allen and the Steve he talked about how well he

1098
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: can move. He moves great, It's fourth and short. Give

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00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: the offense a chance to keep possession and all of

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00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: the change and keep that Jets the Miami defense tier

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00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: than that heat oil boy. And I've been watching the

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00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: team for three decades. I just can't figure out why

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00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: we're not taking those types of risks for the biggest

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00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: possible reward. What do you guys think about? You know,

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00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: it's interesting, Steve, because one of the things that I

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00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: hear people say a lot, particularly these days when this

1107
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: word the vocabulary is extended into or we all talk

1108
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: about analytics. You hear Chope in the afternoons on gr

1109
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 1: and he goes on and on about the probabilities and

1110
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: possibilities of going forward on fourth down. And I think,

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00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: if there's one question that still seems to be maybe

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00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: easy for fans to point to or and for analytics

1113
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: guys even it seems to point to, it's fourth down

1114
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: and short, fourth and short, what point on the field

1115
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 1: or when do you go for it on fourth and

1116
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: short and you're And the fact that a lot of

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00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: head count I think the I think the majority, maybe

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00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: not the vast majority. It's getting more common, but I

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00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: think still the vast majority of head coach is still

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Speaker 1: punt it away on fourth down. You think about what

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00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: happened to and this is an extreme example. Let me

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00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: exaggerate to give you an example. Last Monday night, I

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00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: think it was money maybe a Sunday night, the Tennessee

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00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: Titans in Houston go for it on fourth down at

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00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: fourth and two on the goal line. They do not

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00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,959
Speaker 1: get it, and the very next play they goes ninety

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00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 1: seven yards the other way. Those are the consequences of

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00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: the head coaches way. Now, certainly you don't keep playing

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00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: on giving up a ninety seven yard touchdown run, and

1130
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: you don't plan on not getting it on fourth down.

1131
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: But I for me, analytics are not and never will

1132
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 1: be predictive in every given in a specific given situation.

1133
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: So that's why you're always going to get coaches playing

1134
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: it safe. Go ahead, Steve, risk rewards though you know nothing,

1135
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: nothing ventured, nothing games. Well, the risk is you're going

1136
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: to give the best guy who's ever played quarterback in

1137
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: the NFL the ball at the fifty. Yeah, but it's

1138
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: only thirty yards away from the punt. It's fifteen yards

1139
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: away from a field goal. Yeah. I don't know. What

1140
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: do you think. We're not gonna We're not gonna win

1141
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 1: a super Bowl this year? So why not just yeah?

1142
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean I get it. There's always that on the table.

1143
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna be you know, there's always that. Um,

1144
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, why what are you gaining? Um? I don't

1145
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 1: know what are you? What's your take on this? Murph?

1146
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: Because I I I get it. I'm in there with you.

1147
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 1: I mean I think, hey, let's give it a shot.

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00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: You got Josh He's and listen, he's been. Josh has

1149
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: been compared favorably to Cam Newton. He's that kind of athletes,

1150
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: bigger than everybody else, he's fast, faster than most of

1151
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: the guys on the field, and he's got the ball

1152
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: in his hands. He's a great short yardage weapon. All

1153
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: he has to do is just you know, drop back

1154
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: to pass, look for a place, look, look, look, and

1155
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: then just fall forward first down on a short yardage play.

1156
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: That's what they do with Cam Newton, or they give

1157
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: him a quarterback schneque where he just jumps over and

1158
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: gets it. I mean, it seems easy when you talk

1159
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: about it in those terms, but it's not always in

1160
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: Sunday's game. This pat Sundays, the Bills said just scored.

1161
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: They were down by a point because they it's the

1162
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 1: extra point. And I think when you're talking about Sean McDermott,

1163
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about an inherently conservative, defensive minded coach who

1164
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 1: does not want to surrender that you said thirty yards

1165
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 1: of and it is probably you know, maybe a little

1166
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: bit more than that if you get a good punt,

1167
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: doesn't want to surrender that real estate just by failing offensively. Look,

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00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 1: it's an offensive struggles, right, it's an offensive line that struggles. Well,

1169
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: you can't count on this team picking up two yards

1170
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: like you know, snap your fingers, boom, two yards just

1171
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: doesn't happen with this team this year. Maybe with a

1172
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: different offense and a different offensive line, that's a different story.

1173
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: So book point. I get it, and there are numbers

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00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: that show that you can have success going for it

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00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: on fourth down. I would not expect that from this

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00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: head coach, and especially from this offense, which is just

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00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 1: not that productive. Well, I think I think you're right.

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00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 1: I didn't really think go. I didn't even go down

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00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: as far as the offensive line. I mean, it's an

1180
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: offensive line that the center's injured, both guards are new,

1181
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: and you're gonna try what a quarterback sneak. It might

1182
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: not be the best spot we're gonna break. We got

1183
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: more coming up. We're gonna get into some of the

1184
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: topics that you have suggested for us today from the

1185
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: reverse Twitter poll. Coming back One Bill's Live from One

1186
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio Buffalo Hills Radio Network

1187
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: Stories update the update from One Bill's Drive the Buffalo

1188
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: Bills player's day off. They have an issue to solve

1189
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: at center, where Russell Bodine is out for the rest

1190
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: of the season broke a bone and his lowered leg

1191
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: in Sunday's game against Miami, replaced in the game by

1192
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Groy. But they're gonna have to most likely fill

1193
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: that roster spot sometime before they get on the practice

1194
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: field tomorrow. Back at practice tomorrow, getting set for the

1195
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: New York Jets. It'll be rookie quarterbacks against each other.

1196
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen against his buddy Sam Darnold. Sunday one o'clock

1197
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: the Bills and the Jets at New Airfield. Redskins quarterback

1198
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy went down yesterday. Looks like his season has over.

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00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: Broke his right fibula in Washington's twenty eight thirteen loss

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00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: to the Philadelphia Eagles, McCoy and his season and only

1201
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: his second start this year. He was replaced by Mark Sanchez.

1202
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: The Redskins now with some serious quarterback problems. The Steelers

1203
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: will try to bounce back from back to back losses

1204
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: without there running back James Connor. Steelers coach mcdomlin said

1205
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: he's out for the Week fourteen game against the Oakland Raiders.

1206
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: Test came back showing his leg injury against the Chargers

1207
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: were more serious than initial indications. It was described initially

1208
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: as only a sprain, but it's worse than that. Urban

1209
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: Meyer is retiring as Ohio States football coach after the

1210
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl. Offensive coordinator Ryan Day will take over as

1211
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: the Buckeyes head coach beginning January second, Meyer has coached

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00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: Ohio State for the last seven seasons. He will formally

1213
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: announce it. He's stepping down to the news conference at

1214
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: two o'clock today. Buffalo Savers coming off their third consecutive loss.

1215
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: They lost to the Nashville Predators in Nashville two to one.

1216
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: But they return home now after a three game row

1217
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: trip to kick off a four game homestand Savers home

1218
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: tonight with their first matchup of the season against the

1219
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: Toronto Maple Leafs. Puck dropped seven thirty tonight the game

1220
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: on NBCSM. NHL will add a thirty second franchise in Seattle.

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00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: That announcement today a unanimous vote by the Board of governors.

1222
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: The Seattle franchise will enter the league in the twenty

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00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: twenty one twenty two season as a member of the

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00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: Pacific Division. Seattle coming into the NHL College Basketball A

1225
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: big upset last night the Purple Leaguals of Niagara one

1226
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: at Pitt seventy one to seventy. The Purple Leaguals now

1227
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: three and four this season. That's a big win for them.

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00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: That's a good win for them. Congratulations to them. Going

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00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: down to Pitt, who has struggled a little bit, but

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00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: that's a good win for Niagara. To go down there

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00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: and win acc Team Powery road game is a good win. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're here to talk about the Bills until three o'clock today,

1233
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: John Murphy and Steve Tasser coming up at two o'clock.

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00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: We have our our buddy. He's been on the show before,

1235
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 1: Ched Pennington. He's an interesting spot. He's an hour away.

1236
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: He advises the Jets and does a little bit of

1237
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: work with Sam Darnold, and he spent some offseason time

1238
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: with the Bills. Josh Allen. We had done Chad Pennington

1239
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago to talk about Josh Allen,

1240
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: So let's be a good opportunity for him to talk

1241
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: to us about both quarterbacks in their first matchup against

1242
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: each other. Right, looking forward to that coming up next hour.

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00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: This game is if if Darnald plays, is it's official? Now?

1244
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: Are they going to say it? If they said it,

1245
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: I don't think they've said it yet. But if it

1246
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: turns out Darnald a gets Alan, I mean, man, how

1247
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: can you not why you gotta watch this? I mean,

1248
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that. I'm looking forward to

1249
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: the game I'm particularly given the way our guy played

1250
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: last week and the way and Darnel coming off an injury,

1251
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: and how remember it seems like a lifetime ago. Remember

1252
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: Opening night Monday Night Football, the Jets at Detroit and

1253
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: Darnald throws the pick six, the first pick first time,

1254
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: and then lights them up. Yeah, oh this is this

1255
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: is a matchup. A couple of interesting things on Twitter.

1256
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: Mike pre Prezzuzuso Preziuso tweets in ever since you ran that,

1257
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: who will lose first pole? The Bills, Sabers nor ub

1258
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: has won a game. Mike. We know that, we know

1259
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: that we're taking all kinds of hits for that. And

1260
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: that's why today's put in where you been? We know that,

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00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: and thanks for reminding us, which is why today's Twitter

1262
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: pole is people's choice. Whatever you want from the Twitter pole.

1263
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: We got some good suggestions. Want to go through some

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Speaker 1: of these. Steve comes from Scott his Twitter pole, his question,

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Speaker 1: his discussion topic, and you can weigh in two on

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Speaker 1: the telephone lines eight oh three five fifty and toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Scott tweets in his Twitter pole suggestion which Bill's players

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00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: should make the Pro Bowl this year, and he offers

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: up Matt Milano, Tradevious White, Jerry Hughes, Kyle Williams. May

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Speaker 1: I submit a couple more names, at least one more

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Speaker 1: name for that Listen, Stephen Houske belongs on that list.

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Speaker 1: I think he. Yes, he missed a field goal the

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Speaker 1: other day. I think he deserves consideration on that list though,

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Speaker 1: Um Scott, I would put, if I had to rank him,

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Speaker 1: Tredevious White number one, Matt Mlanno number two, Jerry Hughes

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Speaker 1: number three, Kyle Williams number four. What do you think, Steve?

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00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: What do you think of that list of suggestions? Agree?

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00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: And I put Houshka. Maybe a bus get up there

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00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: right behind Tredevious. Yeah, Aushka has had a dynamite year. Um,

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Speaker 1: not last week, notwithstanding, particularly given the fact that like

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00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 1: last like last week, he's had a couple of different

1283
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: holders and he's managed to fight through it. Now, last

1284
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: week was the first time we saw a crack in

1285
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: his performance, and it was he had a brand new holder,

1286
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: and that's that makes a huge difference for kickers. Howshk

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00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: is playing extremely well and I'd go along with it, though,

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00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: Tredavious White. I mean, if he doesn't get in, I

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00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: don't know how that happens, right, I don't know. I

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00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: don't know how he's not all pro. He's having a

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00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: phenomenal year and a really good defense still really good

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00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: number one pass defense. See Pro Bowl ballining. If you'd

1293
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: like to influence this sometimes somehow, you can vote. Go

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00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: to NFL dot com. You can vote for the Pro

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00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: Bowl Bowl for any one of those. I think there

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00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: has to be some consideration too, for believing or not

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00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander to return to the Pro Bowl. He went

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00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: two years ago, miss last year. He's playing well. He

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Speaker 1: played well on Sunday. But um, yeah, Tredevius is a

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01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: strong candidate. Housegate is as well. I believe Jerry Hughes

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01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: Milano also strong candidates. Yeah from Damian Lowe. Also on

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet, he goes one Bill's Live. I listened

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Speaker 1: to your show every day at work here in Melbourne, Australia.

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01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: Who I've been listening online for a few years now,

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01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: and right now is the first time in all that

1306
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: period there is a genuine excitement about the future, all

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01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: due to a Bill's quarterback. Keep up the good work

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01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: boys like you and I. You and I had a

1309
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: lot to do with that. Just yeah, like the Twitter poll, right, um,

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Speaker 1: what time is it in Melbourne? I don't know, it's

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01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: gonna be like twelve hours, right, it's a long Thanks

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01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: for listening. It might mean it might be yesterday in

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Speaker 1: Melbourne or tomorrow. It's five fifteen am in Melbourne today,

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Speaker 1: and what day tomorrow? It is tomorrow am tomorrow. Oh,

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Speaker 1: my head's gonna burst. I don't know how that works. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: five fifteen am. So actually Damien is listening to uh,

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Speaker 1: today's tomorrow in his world anyway, Damian, thanks for thanks

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Speaker 1: for tuning in though for Melbourne, Australia, five fifteen am.

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01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: That's Breath's pretty cool. Who knew the Bills had that

1320
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: kind of reach? Huh? The intranet. There's an interesting Twitter

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01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: suggestion from Andrew Bobeck. And we talked about this last week,

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01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: and we talked about the arrivals. Who the Bill's biggest

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01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: rival was. He's going, you know, a full spectrum here

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01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: the most hated opposing team in Buffalo. Who do you

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01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: think it is? His suggestions the Maple Leafs, the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, or the Bruins. You might want to put

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Flyers on that list. I mean, I do

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01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: think the Jacksonville Jaguars have made some serious strides forward

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Speaker 1: and being the most hated team in Buffalo. Maybe not

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Speaker 1: up with those. Yeah, I don't know who i'd vote

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Speaker 1: for it. I don't like the Leafs. I don't like

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. I don't like I put the Jets on

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01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: this list too, the Jets. I got more teams that

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01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: I disliked that I know, that's not true. That's we

1335
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: gotta put that one in our hit pocket. We gotta,

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01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: we gotta roll that one out in the off season

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Speaker 1: when it's a slow day. Most hated opposing team. Yeah,

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01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: that's a good one. I like that. Like Andrew Bobeck

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01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: comes through with a big one. That's a we're gonna

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Speaker 1: We're gonna earmark that one for a later Y years ago, see,

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01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: when I was at the Channel seven, we did a

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01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: it was a sweep thing. It was a ratings ploy,

1343
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: but we had people and this is kind of pre internet,

1344
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: so it was hard to do. I forget how we

1345
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: did it. I don't know how we tabulated votes, but

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01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: we did. The Buffalo's all time sports villain that's a

1347
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: good one. And we put up a couple of suggestions.

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01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: It was Jimmy Johnson who had who was coaching the

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01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: Dolphins at the time and had defeated the Bills with

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01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the Super Bowl. We had um who's

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01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: the Quebec Nordy coach. The Quebec Nordick would always eliminate

1352
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: the Savers in the playoffs. Michelle bergieron I believe it was,

1353
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: and do I have the right guy? He was not

1354
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 1: well regarded here. We had this, this is a great one.

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01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: Chris Ford, who was a basketball yeah you don't know,

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01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: basketball player for Villanova, who in the NCAA tournament fell

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01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: on the back legs of Bob Lanier that Bonnies were

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01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: on their way to winning or at least competing deep

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Speaker 1: into the tournament. And Chris Ford fell on the back

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01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: of Bobblinear his legs injured him, took him out the bond.

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01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: He's had no chance in the final four, Chris Ford.

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Speaker 1: He didn't get too many votes, but I thought that

1363
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: was an inspired This is like a twenty years ago

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Speaker 1: this poll. I can't remember who the fourth was, Brian Cox.

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Speaker 1: It was Brian Cox. I believe yes, a good one,

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Speaker 1: and Jimmy Johnson won. He was he was the Buffalo's

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Speaker 1: number one sports villain because I'll tell you what he

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01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: was when he was with the Dallas Cowboys. He was

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01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: he was iconic. Yeah, yeah, now here's a cool thing.

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Speaker 1: He won the balloting by Buffalo sports fans, and I thought, well,

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Speaker 1: let's see what he thinks of that. So I called

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Speaker 1: got him on the phone. He actually did like a

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Speaker 1: ten minute interview and laughed and he thought, that's great.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad to be Buffalo's number one sports villain. That

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01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: was a pretty cool thing. Yeah, yeah, he was great.

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Speaker 1: He was. He was a gamer, you know, he was

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Speaker 1: into it. I thought it was pretty cool that he

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Speaker 1: was into it that much. But Buffalo's most hated opposing

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Speaker 1: team Fromandrew boback Leaves Patriots, Dolphins, Bruins. Who do you

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Speaker 1: think he'd win that poll? Let's not do it. No,

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01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: don't don't do it now, don't do it now, give

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Speaker 1: me your pin. I'm just ass of your opinion here. Patriots.

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01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it could be the Bruins or the

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Speaker 1: Flyers too. Flyers. But see here's the thing, it's maple leafs.

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Speaker 1: I think I think I don't know. I generally speaking,

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01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: I think you hate maple leaf presence in our building

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Speaker 1: more than you hate the leaves. That's what makes it bad.

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Speaker 1: The leafs are you know, they've been they have, they

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01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: have been irrelevant. They're better now, but they're better now,

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01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean, but back in the day, it's just like

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01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: you just hate and see leaf fans come down here. Yeah,

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01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: that's It's not like they're you hate the team itself.

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01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a difference there even no,

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01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: but I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah, all right,

1395
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: we gotta but do the next though. This is an

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01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: interesting all right, Adam schut Who's to blame for the

1397
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: uptick in penalties over the past couple of games, poor coaching,

1398
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Speaker 1: young players, over officiating or our guys are just getting beat? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Want my opinion, Yeah, our guys are getting beat. I

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01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: think that's what happened when you don't when your talent

1401
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: level doesn't match your opponents, you strive to do something.

1402
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 1: You know, you hold instead of blocking, and you think,

1403
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: oh if I, if I don't do this, my quarterbacks

1404
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: are gonna get killed. So you try to get away

1405
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: with a hold. Sometimes you get away with it probably

1406
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 1: more often than not you get away with it. But

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01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: when your talent level doesn't match up, and especially on

1408
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line, I think that's obviously where the holds

1409
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: come in. Um. I think that's the biggest problem. But

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01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: there are others. The pre snap penalties, there's really no

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01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: reason for that other than lack of discipline, lack of

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01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: lack of focus right pre snap. I guess if you

1413
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: were if you're worried about a speed pass rusher, you

1414
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: might come out of your stance a little bit early

1415
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: and try to get away with it. So maybe that's

1416
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: our guys getting beat. Yeah, And I don't think there's

1417
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 1: any one answer. I mean, there's a couple of these

1418
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: and each one of them is different. So you get

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01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: these pre snap penalties. You could put that maybe at

1420
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: the at the feet of the coaches. They gotta have

1421
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: they gotta be discipline. That's a discipline issue. Is your

1422
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: your authority figures in charge keeping the discipline? I got

1423
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: and you know like that young players is a good

1424
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: Young players Sunday Man. I can't remember who it was.

1425
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 1: It was one of our young wide receivers. It might

1426
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: have been Robert Foster who got flagged for illegal block

1427
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: in the back on a running play, and you think,

1428
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 1: how does that happen? You know how it happens. He

1429
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: hasn't played enough to know how to avoid blocking somebody

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01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: in the back. I hope, I mean, I hope I'm

1431
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: remembering this right. I think it was Robert Foster. I'm

1432
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: looking through it now, but it was a young wid Yeah,

1433
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: there it is no Robert Foster. Early fourth quarter. It

1434
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: was a pass to Isai McKenzie that went for four

1435
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: yards on second and three, so it would have been

1436
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: a first down. Robert Foster illegal block above the waist

1437
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 1: ten yard penalty, And as I watched it on video yesterday,

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01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: I thought, Robert Foster is just a baby getting used

1439
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: to playing in the league. And this is not an excuse,

1440
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: but he doesn't know how to avoid an illegal block

1441
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: above the waist, you know, he just he's never been

1442
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: in that situation dealing with guys who are faster than

1443
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: guys he's ever played against, and more athletic and quicker.

1444
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: So you're right all of those suggestions poor coaching young players,

1445
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: over efficiating. Bill's got thirteen penalties called against him Sunday.

1446
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: There were at least three regious calls just three earl

1447
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: actually one non call on the past interference that you've

1448
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: pointed out. But over efficiating is as an issue, so

1449
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. There was one thing. I got to

1450
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: find this tweet and this I told you I trouble

1451
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: sleeping and didn't sleep much last night, but there was

1452
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: you didn't sleep nineteen hours. I was sick. Um, now

1453
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: you've made me forget, but there was. Um. Somebody wrote

1454
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: that the last two weeks penalties have skyrocket in the NFL.

1455
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean, just a ridiculous number of penalties the last

1456
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,919
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. And I'll find it and talk about

1457
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: it because I think that's one of the factors here.

1458
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 1: It's not just the bills. It's going on around the league.

1459
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: There's there's too many penalties. You hear the league about

1460
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: things where the league puts out points of emphasis, Usually

1461
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: that stuff escapes, and the league's pretty transparent about a Listen,

1462
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna we don't like the way the trend is

1463
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: in the league. We're gonna put a point of emphasis.

1464
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: And a lot of times it's because there's a rule

1465
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: in plays and already in place, and that we have

1466
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: kind of evolved away from calling it like it is

1467
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: in the rule book, and we've kind of let them

1468
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: play in this certain way, and then they'll start calling

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Speaker 1: it again, and it takes a while for the players

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01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: to get used to the new level of calling these

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01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 1: penalties that the officials are going to use, and they

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01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 1: takes him a while to adjust to it, and so

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01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: you get an uptick in those type of penalties like

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01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: we saw with the helmet hits, which you know, if

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01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: any of you notice those have kind of gone away.

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01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: There's a couple that we missed in a Monday night game,

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01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: helmets and helmet stuff that they just stopped calling it

1478
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: for some reasons. You know this guy, you know, Rick

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01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: goslind Dallas Morney News special teams guy. He's a great

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01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 1: pro football writer, and he tweeted this out. This is

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01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: what I saw last night. You ready for this. It's

1482
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: a series of tweets from Rick Goslin. The last guy

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01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills want to see this month is referee

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01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: Sean Hockeley. He tweeted this after Sunday's game. His crew

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01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: has worked two Buffalo games this season. The Bills have

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01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: been assessed to combined twenty three penalties in those two

1487
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 1: games for two hundred twenty yards roadlosses to Baltimore and

1488
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: Miami twenty three penalties combined in two games from Sean Hockeley.

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01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: He goes on to say the Bill Vnevitch officiating crew

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01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 1: has assessed a league low one hundred twenty three penalties

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01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,759
Speaker 1: this season. All season one twenty three, the Sean Hockeley

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01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: crew has assessed one hundred d eight penalties thus far

1493
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 1: just to the road teams. Hockeyles Crew as assessed to

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01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: one hundred eight penalties to road teams. Five of the

1495
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 1: last six road teams have been assessed double digit penalties

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01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: by Hockules crew and one more did week This is

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01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 1: the one that got my attention. Rick goslind tweets this

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01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 1: did Week thirteen in the NFL seemed like a flag fest.

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01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: It should. Officiating crews assessed season highs of two hundred

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01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: and sixty penalties for twenty four hundred yards in the

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01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: sixteen games. That's the busiest NFL officials have been since

1502
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: the second week of twenty fifteen, when they build out

1503
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 1: two hundred ninety eight penalties. So for the the busiest,

1504
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: the highest number of penalties in the last three years

1505
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: this past Sunday, two hundred and sixty penalties. That doesn't

1506
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: make sense a week twelve, week thirteen of the season.

1507
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it should be smoothed out by now. You're right,

1508
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, and I'm looking, I'm

1509
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: thinking around the league. I don't remember any games that

1510
01:09:54,000 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 1: were in cruddy weather, right, No three editions, conditions that

1511
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: were out of control where you got guys slipping and

1512
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 1: falling or doing any of that stuff. Or I mean,

1513
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: there's no reason for it, like it comes in out

1514
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: of and I don't know how big a difference it was.

1515
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it was only up four percent from

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01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: where it usually is, even though it was the highest. Yeah. Nevertheless,

1517
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Why is that? I don't well,

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01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'd love to know what comes out

1519
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: of New York, you know what I mean, Well, what

1520
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: comes out of the suggestions they make and when they say, well,

1521
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,640
Speaker 1: this is a point of emphasis. I'd love to know

1522
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: what that is on a weekly basis. I'll tell you

1523
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 1: what though, the fact that they have numbers like this

1524
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: and they keep track of that stuff, and they got

1525
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: guys that watch them, you know, they are on those

1526
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 1: guys all the time. I mean, they're trying to get

1527
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: it right, and they're either talking to them, they're on them.

1528
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: And these guys are hearing they heard something from New York.

1529
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: You're right, they heard something from New York. Right, that

1530
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: had to be something. Something goes league wide like that

1531
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: in one week of all the officiating crews, Alberto ver

1532
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: Verron had to say something to all those guys, right,

1533
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 1: he had to put something. I was like, hey, you

1534
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: got da dada, right, I would think so. I don't

1535
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: think they do it on their own, right, They're not new.

1536
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: It goes back to your point, back to the I'm

1537
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: putting my I'm putting my conspiracy blockering tinfoil hat on

1538
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 1: so that they can't put the radio waves into my brain.

1539
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: Something's going on, something, something happened, they something, they saw

1540
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:32,560
Speaker 1: something in the trend, or just some over zealous executive

1541
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 1: at the NFL leather leve level Alberta River On tinkering

1542
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: with the game, tinkering with the game just because he

1543
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 1: thinks he he can. I don't know that that reeks

1544
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: of conspiracy. He's getting warmed up, folks. It's gonna be fun.

1545
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break Well. I like your ideas

1546
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: for Twitter pole topics. We've employed a couple of them already.

1547
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: Heren coming, keep them coming. We're gonna be back with

1548
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 1: more One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This is

1549
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. It is One Bill's Live from One

1550
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive, John mur If you Steve Tasker in our

1551
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,599
Speaker 1: one Buffalo studio, Bills and Jets coming up this week.

1552
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: We're looking forward to that, looking forward to hearing from you.

1553
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: The phone line's open eight oh three five fifty and

1554
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1555
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: A couple of calls here, Norman, all the New York

1556
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 1: is on the line. Norm You wanted to add to

1557
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: are the one suggested Twitter poll about the most hated

1558
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: opponent in Buffalo? Right, Yes, and exactly, John High, Steve, uh,

1559
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: you know being you know, and this is not a

1560
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,640
Speaker 1: rank on um Canadian people. But but I like this

1561
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: already when you when you talk about heat, and I

1562
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 1: played hockey at a very good level and I played

1563
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: in Canada as well, But I think what what the

1564
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: hate are the people that are in the stands. I've

1565
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: said this, man any many times that I think all

1566
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: Canadian people have every jersey in the NFL, NHL in

1567
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: their closet, man, and they wear that jersey and it

1568
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:16,760
Speaker 1: just kisses people off. Um, why did they do that?

1569
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 1: That's that's what they hate it. And I, Steve, I

1570
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: have a question for you, because this is one thing

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01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 1: I do not understand. You played pro football, obviously, what

1572
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: is what these trainers are people coming out and giving

1573
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,480
Speaker 1: guys drinks while they're standing. You don't see that in hockey.

1574
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: In hockey you get your own water buckets. Well, there's

1575
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 1: a reason, Norm, Come on, Norm. You gotta come on, Norm.

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01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:44,600
Speaker 1: You know the answer to that. No, No, yes, you

1577
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: do give me a drink? Yeah, let me let me

1578
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: give him murph sport Norm. But I can't say Norm,

1579
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: no this No. Hockey players are sitting on a bench

1580
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,839
Speaker 1: and there's like no room. They and they got bottles

1581
01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: in a little shelf. They get to sit down on

1582
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: the bench. Right they're on the ice for forty seconds.

1583
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: They come down, They've got their own little spot. They

1584
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 1: pull a bottle bottle out of a rack and they go.

1585
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,879
Speaker 1: Football players there's they're in the middle of a field

1586
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: and the simple fact the matter is they can go

1587
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: get their own drink if they want, but they've got

1588
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: to stand there on the sideline ready to go back

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01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 1: in at a moment's notice. And they got people the

1590
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: whole water and and they you know, now, it used

1591
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: to be I was never a guy that wanted it

1592
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 1: squirted in my mouth. I'd take it and do it myself,

1593
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: you know you. And most of those guys don't listen.

1594
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: They all they wants a mouthful of water. They come

1595
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: off and they'd get one, and and they don't want

1596
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: to And here's the thing too, they don't want to

1597
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: pass the things around because of what. Invariably the guy

1598
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: takes it, takes a drink of water and throws it

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01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 1: on the ground, because that's what I would have done?

1600
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: Are you throw it on the ground back by the bench?

1601
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: So to keep track of them, they give them to

1602
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: somebody who's in charge of it, and he does it.

1603
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: So it's it's a logistical thing. But in hockey there's

1604
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: no space. They got like two guys on the bench.

1605
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: They got the head coach, assistant coach, and then they

1606
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 1: got one equipment and what one trainer? Right, there's four guys.

1607
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a football sideline, It looks like

1608
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 1: the Persian Army. There's like six zillion people on the sidelines,

1609
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: so it's hard to keep track of stuff like that.

1610
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: So they give young interns and young trainers and stuff

1611
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 1: a little job and makes them gives them one more

1612
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: thing to do. But it's just a logistical thing because

1613
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 1: of the size of the roster, the space that they're

1614
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: in and all of that thanks to arm Here's Rick

1615
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: and Clarence. Hello, Rick, go ahead, you're on the air.

1616
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: Hey guys, thanks for having me on. Sure, and just

1617
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: wanted to weigh in on the Twitter poll suggestion and say,

1618
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 1: judged by the twelfth fan or carried by six are

1619
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: the obil guys really to blame for the Buffalo Sports

1620
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: recent slide? Way? Oh, he wants to use that? You

1621
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: want to use that as a Twitter poll? Are we

1622
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: really to blame? Right? All right? Who's to blame it?

1623
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: Would it be you b bulls, the Buffalo Bills or

1624
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: the Sabers or murphing tasker? That the Twitter poll? You're

1625
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: looking for? What or luck? They all lost just because

1626
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: you're just because you're Twitter poll last week. I don't

1627
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: think you guys are to the plaint. I don't know,

1628
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't think so, but

1629
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't. Like I said, Rick, I still feel a

1630
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: measure of responsibility and ownership. I don't, and I feel

1631
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 1: bad about it. So I do. I didn't commit one

1632
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 1: fourteen hours just fine, last night I did. I did

1633
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: not commit one of those thirteen penalties on Sunday. I

1634
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: did not give up a shorthanded goal the other day. No,

1635
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 1: listen to two of us are pulling for all of

1636
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: those teams, like no, Like everybody else is around this area.

1637
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: So it's you know, I get it. Factor your call.

1638
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 1: Here's Joe and Tonawanda. Hello, Joe, welcome to the show.

1639
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: You're on the air, I Joe, go ahead, all right, Yeah,

1640
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: the blames on you for that? All right? What else?

1641
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 1: All right? I think uh? Uh last night we've seen

1642
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: probably a preview of the Stanley Cup final, and we

1643
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: only gave up two goals, so that might happen, and uh,

1644
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, we might win the night, we might not,

1645
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: so Okay. The other thing is uh Barkley, since he

1646
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 1: put up forty one and the chemistry was so good.

1647
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: I know it's uh, it's a home game and fans

1648
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: might not want to see it, but hell, let him

1649
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: play and you know, maybe he could play against New England.

1650
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Joe, Joe, Joe, you're

1651
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: telling me you watch the Bills play at Miami and

1652
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 1: you want to bench the best offensive player on either

1653
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 1: of those two teams in order to play Matt Barkley.

1654
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: Am I is that what I heard? He's gone? He's gone?

1655
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: Did you cut him off? He did not cut him off.

1656
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: That did not. That's crazy. I should have. Don't let

1657
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: crazy talk on our show unless it's from you and me. No,

1658
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 1: no crazy talk. Look, Josh Allen and Steve said, is

1659
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 1: the best offensive weapon, the only offensive weapon they've had

1660
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. Um, he was part of

1661
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: this thing. Is his development that can that needs more work. Um,

1662
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,280
Speaker 1: And it's fun to watch Josh Allen develop. He's not

1663
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 1: the best offensive player in either team. Yeah sure he was. Yeah, yeah,

1664
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: let's bench him for Matt Barkley. Thanks for your calling, Thanks, Joe. Uh,

1665
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: Jerry and Tanawana Hello Jerry, go ahead and you're on

1666
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: the air. Hey guys, Uh, Steve Tasker, I want to

1667
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: vote for him for the Hall of Fame. All right,

1668
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: wait minute, we'll set it up. Boom, there it is

1669
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: they also, um, I would love to see the Bills

1670
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: check out keep an eye on Tanner Gentry from the Bears.

1671
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 1: Tanner Gentry when josh Allen was his favorite receiver. When

1672
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: when Josh Allen was a junior, he Tanner Gentry when

1673
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 1: he was at Wyoming from with Josh Allen caught seventy

1674
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 1: two catches for over thirteen hundred yards that year and

1675
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 1: forty nine catches of twenty yards or more, which was

1676
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: more than any other receiver in the nation. And Tanneth

1677
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: Gentry was on the practice squad with the Bears started

1678
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: in September, and I'm not sure how he's doing this

1679
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: year with the Bears, but I would love for the

1680
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 1: Bills to try to work something out with the Bears

1681
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: to bring tenor Gentry back here to be with Josh Allen.

1682
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: And if they could, that would be the next Jim

1683
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: Kelly Andre Reid connection going forward. I guarantee it would.

1684
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: You know. I just looked him up. I believe he might,

1685
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: he may, he may, he might not be in the rosters.

1686
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: When I'm trying to say Jerry, I think he got

1687
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 1: cut on the final cutdown. Did he get brought back?

1688
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: He got bought. In September, he was put back on

1689
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 1: the practice squad. Okay, but I don't know from there

1690
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: what's going on, but I would love the Bills to

1691
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 1: have somebody to keep an eye on him, to see

1692
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: if if he is on the squad it works on

1693
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 1: a while with the Bears, we could probably get him

1694
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: on for a fifty six seventh round pick or well,

1695
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: you don't have to get him anything for him if

1696
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: he's on the practice squad, Jerry, he's a free agent

1697
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 1: right now. So everybody on every practice squad around the

1698
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: NFL is a free agent, and any other team can

1699
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,599
Speaker 1: come over to your practice squad and grab the guy

1700
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: right away. So if he's out there, the Bills can

1701
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: get him. And you said they should have somebody keeping

1702
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: track of him. They've got a whole crew of guys

1703
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: who do nothing but keep track of the practice squad

1704
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: guys around the league and the guys that are free agents.

1705
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: So you can bet they know who he is. And well,

1706
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: this is a fool not to go after him, a sap, well,

1707
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: only a fool of I don't know who this guy is,

1708
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: but if he can't play for the Bears and nobody

1709
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 1: else wants him. What makes you think he'd fly for

1710
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: the Bill just because of Josh Allen? You know, because

1711
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 1: well when he was with the Bears in the preseason,

1712
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: he caught more catches than any other receiver with the

1713
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: Bears last year, and then this year the Bears brought

1714
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 1: in three top receivers and that's why he kind of

1715
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: got bumped down, you know, and Jerry, Jerry, can we

1716
01:20:57,280 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: get the three top receivers that got him exactly? That's

1717
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 1: the model I think for the Bills in this upcoming

1718
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 1: free agent next spring is what the Bears did. They

1719
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: didn't and they didn't break the bank to get those receivers.

1720
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: They they made smart moves and got three very productive receivers.

1721
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: They're having pretty decent years. I want those guys. I

1722
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 1: don't want the guy that got bumped off the roster.

1723
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 1: That's right. And then I get you. It does sound

1724
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 1: romantic and fun and uh, you know, nostalgic to have

1725
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, these two kids who were so successful at

1726
01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: Wyoming get back together at the pros. It's just not

1727
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 1: gonna work that way. Well, I heard, I mean, if

1728
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 1: what you get for him, if you can go in

1729
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 1: and get him. The views on the practice spot. Sure, Yeah,

1730
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: you're right. I want better than him though, that's all. Yeah,

1731
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: I want, I want. I want guys who turn out

1732
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: to be Julio Jones and aj Green, not Tanner Gentry.

1733
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 1: I'll guarantee a Canner is wait better than Benjamin. What's Benjamin?

1734
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 1: He doesn't even know how to run routes. He just

1735
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: runs straight down the field and that city. Well, you're right,

1736
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a yeah. And that's why we're talking

1737
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: talking about all these receivers and what the Bills need

1738
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 1: to do in the offseason. There's no question they're gonna that.

1739
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: It may be you may have four or five new

1740
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: guys at the top of the Bill's wide receiver chart.

1741
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: Next year. You may have two, you may have one,

1742
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 1: you may have three. But there's gonna be some new

1743
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: wide receivers on the Bills, and you can bet that

1744
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 1: your guy, Tanner Gentry is probably on a long list

1745
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: of guys they're gonna check out. Jerry. Thanks. We're gonna

1746
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 1: take a break and get As we get to the break,

1747
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:26,799
Speaker 1: I want to let you know who this week's a

1748
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: Blue Rock Solar Player of the Week is It was

1749
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: your votes that did it. Your vote since yesterday and

1750
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: this week's Blue Rock Solar Player of the Week is

1751
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 1: Bill's quarterback Josh Allen. Votes and piled in and he

1752
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: is the guy. Don't forget you vote the morning after

1753
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 1: each game. Go to Blue Rock Energy dot com or

1754
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: Blue Rock Energies Facebook page to learn more. Was that

1755
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: a surprise? No, so, as I saw that the candidate yesterday,

1756
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: I said, just kidding me, give it to him. But

1757
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: it's like, there's no way I mean this guy. It

1758
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: means Rookie of the Week, Josh Allen, the Blue Rock

1759
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: Solar Player of the Week. Tap into solar energy without

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01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: a single panel on your roof. Join the Western Air

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01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,839
Speaker 1: Community Solar Farm from Blue Rocks Solar a proud supporter.

1762
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 1: Or the Buffalo Bills. We're back with more. One does

1763
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: line from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome

1764
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 1: back to One Goes Live, John Murphy, Steve Tasker at

1765
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: the time, Now for our reads Milestones presented by Reach Jewelers,

1766
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: the official Jeweler, or the Buffalo Bills. Sunday against the Dolphins,

1767
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: Bills quarterback JOHNH. Allen broke his own team record of

1768
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: yards rushed by a quarterback. He had one hundred and

1769
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 1: thirty five yards rushing, which also ranked second most by

1770
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback in NFL history. R G three did

1771
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: it in two thousand and two. That's reads milestones presented

1772
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: by Reach Jewelers, the official jeweler the Buffalo Bills. Yes, sir,

1773
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: you have a question. We didn't talk about this, but

1774
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: just bring it up, okay, and see what you think.

1775
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: After seventeen years, Tom Brady has finally rushed for a

1776
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: thousand yards in his career. Yeah, Josh Allen would do

1777
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 1: it and see team games. Yeah, he's got two hundred

1778
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 1: something now, Yeah, he's gonna do it in like a

1779
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: year and a half. So what are you saying Brady's

1780
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: no good? I'd like to hear where your thoughts are.

1781
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: H's got three hundred and eighty nine yards. He's gonna

1782
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: rush for a thousand yards in less than two years.

1783
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: And your point is, what was he seventeen times better

1784
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: than Tom Brady? Something that's an interesting stat isn't interesting?

1785
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: There's something interesting this just came across. Of course, the

1786
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl and Pro Bowl batanting is underway now. The

1787
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: team rosters will be introduced live on NFL Network two

1788
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,759
Speaker 1: weeks from today Tuesday, December eighteenth, eight pm NFL Network,

1789
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,679
Speaker 1: and the captains have been named for the Pro Bowl.

1790
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: The Legends Captain, Hall of Famers Pro Bowl Legends Captains

1791
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: announced by the NFL, among them Bill's Hall of Famer

1792
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly. Jim Kelly, Emmett Smith, Bryan or Lacker and

1793
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware will be the two nineteen Pro Bowl Legends Captains.

1794
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: The game is AFC versus NFC right now, and each

1795
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: conference is led by two Legends Captain. Jim Kelly and

1796
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware will lead the AFC, Emma Smith and brand

1797
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 1: Ner Lacker will lead the NFC. The Legends captains those

1798
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: four collectively selected to thirty Pro Bowls. They will serve

1799
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: as mentors for the Pro Bowl Players will be president

1800
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: on the sidelines for the Pro Bowl game. They will

1801
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 1: not only be president of the Pro Bowl, they will

1802
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,879
Speaker 1: be attending various events throughout Pro Bowl Week in Orlando.

1803
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: Jim Kelly is one of the Pro Bowl Captains. That's great,

1804
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: good for Yeah, that's awesome, all right. I'll tell you yep.

1805
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: I'll never forget I got I made a Pro Bowl,

1806
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 1: my first Pro Bowl after the nineteen eighty seven strike here,

1807
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: and I will never forget the sense of accomplishment I got,

1808
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: because back then it wasn't the fans had no vote,

1809
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: so it was really cool because you knew that the

1810
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: players and coaches around the league are the ones who

1811
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: voted and put you in. And I went as a

1812
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,440
Speaker 1: special teams player. And I will never forget how stoked

1813
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 1: I was. I mean I was. I could not have

1814
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: been happier. It was a real joyous moment for me

1815
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: to get named to the Pro Bowl. Back then, I

1816
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 1: was it was one of the one of the highlights

1817
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,799
Speaker 1: of my career. I'm sure it really was that first

1818
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl when I got it, and I just it

1819
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,559
Speaker 1: meant so much to me. It really meant so much.

1820
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: You went to seven? Did you go to seven in

1821
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 1: a row? I went to six in a row. I

1822
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: went to one in nineteen eighty eight. That one's my

1823
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 1: first one, and then the next year I was nicked

1824
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 1: up a couple of times in eight NC eighty eight,

1825
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: and then I don't know why I didn't go in

1826
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 1: eighty eight. I don't know. I can't remember. I think

1827
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 1: I was hurt or something at the end of the year.

1828
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 1: And then the next year I didn't go eighty nine.

1829
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: We didn't. We weren't that good at a team here,

1830
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: or the kind of bickering bills and stuff. And then

1831
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 1: in ninety when we started to hit it, I started

1832
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 1: playing really well again, and you started to vote. I

1833
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: went to what so often had I was looking for property.

1834
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here in January anyway, it was. I

1835
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: went to from nineteen ninety I played in the nineteen

1836
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: any one through the nineteen ninety six Super Bowls up

1837
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. Yeah, and it was, Yeah, it was great,

1838
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: but I'll never forget the first one was it was

1839
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 1: absolutely magical. That's cool. Yeah, on the line, John from

1840
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 1: south of Jamestown, John, there's not much south to Jamestown,

1841
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: not in New York State anyway. Where where do you live.

1842
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,240
Speaker 1: What's the name of the town, Buste? Oh sure, I

1843
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 1: know Bust. Yeah. Yeah, you've been the Bust and Steve

1844
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: has been the Bust and you had a good time there,

1845
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: you both them. Seed the Sports Hall of Fame down

1846
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 1: there is Bust. That's Bust, which is where it's right

1847
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: down the lake? That where is that? What is that building? Well,

1848
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: the Rod and Gun Club, that's it. Yeah, they build

1849
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 1: a new hotel for you right across the lake around

1850
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 1: the corner and sell Ron so you can come down

1851
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: and enjoy yourself. Yeah, that's my buddy, Dave Hart owns

1852
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 1: that hotel. Right. Yeah, I have no idea what you

1853
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 1: guys are talking. We're talking about Chautaco County, right, So

1854
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 1: you need to it down and see us again. And

1855
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 1: of course, you know, I've really enjoyed here in both

1856
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: of you at the Sports Hall of Fame. Talk about

1857
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:15,719
Speaker 1: your Buffalo Bills. Yeah. I been with him since nineteen sixties,

1858
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: so it's too late for me to quit. So I'm

1859
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: on board for life. There you go. You know what,

1860
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: I have very fond memories that you know what I

1861
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: remember almost most about that one John Um sharing the dad?

1862
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Are we there together? Nope? Okay, go ahead,

1863
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: sharing the diets. I think that's how you pronounced it

1864
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: with the Olympic pole vaulter whose name escapes me now

1865
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 1: from Western New York. What's her name? Oh? From Rochester.

1866
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:47,919
Speaker 1: Well she lives in Rochester. Now, anybody it'll come to me. Yeah,

1867
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: but Jen sure, Yeah, yeah, Jen Shure. She was great.

1868
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: She was a great speaker and a really good person.

1869
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 1: And I spoke to her most of that night. I

1870
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,680
Speaker 1: thought she was great, Jen. Sure, I think it's how

1871
01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: you pronounced it. And she got her start down in

1872
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: james Stowne. She went to Bethel Baptist Christian Academy and

1873
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: the guy that was the coach there was the first

1874
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: one to get her on her athletic journey. And yeah,

1875
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: tells you where we can travel different paths and end

1876
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: up someplace you'd never expect. That's cool. What's on your

1877
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: mind today, John, Well, I just wanted to tell you

1878
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: that you were just having a conversation about Steve going

1879
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl, and I want to put myself

1880
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: on board on the train to Canton when he arrives there.

1881
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: So we're all looking forward to that when he becomes

1882
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: a special Teams install e at the Hall of Fame,

1883
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 1: which he richly deserves. Oh that's cool, John, Yes, in

1884
01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: fac appreciate it. I appreciate it. Thank you know, John,

1885
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 1: Thanks good, good to talk to you. Thanks for calling.

1886
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: You know what I like is when somebody calls and

1887
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 1: votes for you for the Hall of Fame and our

1888
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: informal up hole. You always check the screen where we

1889
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: have the number up there, like you're keeping track. You may,

1890
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 1: you may try to should camp it right there? Nine votes? No, no, No,

1891
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna we need more than one hundred Jersey number perfect.

1892
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 1: Just no, we need one hundred or more because when

1893
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: we send this petition, you need more than one hundred.

1894
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: When we send this petition to Canton. I don't think

1895
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 1: anything less than a hundred will I press, you would

1896
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 1: need one hundred million. It's happening, man, for any You're

1897
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 1: gonna be the first democratically elected NFL Hall of Famer. No,

1898
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,639
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yes, true democracy at work, Steve Hans Tasker

1899
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. Let's get one more, one

1900
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,759
Speaker 1: more call on the air person with a Twitter pole suggestion,

1901
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 1: Mike and dpu Hello, Michael ahead, you're on the air. Hey,

1902
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. I got a justion for

1903
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: this flitter pole for you guys. It's I'm kind of

1904
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:49,439
Speaker 1: curious about what the rest of the gr listeners, Uh

1905
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:53,080
Speaker 1: let listen to, uh maybe their favorite show, whether it

1906
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 1: be Howard in Jeremy or Instigators or you two and

1907
01:30:56,400 --> 01:31:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm shipping the Bulldog, oh favorite favorite GR show. I'll

1908
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 1: you just tell you something week company called Nielsen that

1909
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 1: does Yeah, we would we would rig that arb so fast. Yeah,

1910
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: we would rig it. We would cheat now as a

1911
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: company telling an arbitron that does that in regular basis

1912
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,639
Speaker 1: with all sorts of measurements and stuff. But yeah, that's

1913
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,760
Speaker 1: an interesting suggestion. Thanks. I know. Yeah, yeah, I'm too.

1914
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: We're gonna break when we come back in the third

1915
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,000
Speaker 1: and final hour of the show. We're gonna be talking

1916
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 1: with Chad Pennington, former Jets quarterback. He has connections to

1917
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, connections to Josh Annen. Will talk to him

1918
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 1: about both of them when we return for the third hour.

1919
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 1: Come on back. One Bill slide presented by Kalida Health

1920
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello,

1921
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Stories Update. The update from One Bill's Drive.

1922
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 1: Players day off. The Bills have some decisions to make

1923
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 1: this week. They've got to figure out what they're gonna

1924
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 1: do in the offensive line. Russell Bodine, their starting center,

1925
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,559
Speaker 1: was injured and is out for the rest of the year.

1926
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 1: Head surgery yesterday on a broken bone in his leg,

1927
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 1: so Russell Bodine is out the rest of the year.

1928
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: The Bills finished up Sunday's game with Ryan Groy at center.

1929
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 1: That maybe the way they're gonna go the rest of

1930
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 1: the way, but they still are likely to add someone

1931
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: to the roster before much longer, so the Bills have

1932
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 1: that decision to make. They'll be back on the practice

1933
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 1: field tomorrow around noon, and of course we'll be here

1934
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:25,880
Speaker 1: to cover Bills the practice as they get set for

1935
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,599
Speaker 1: the New York Jets Monday night football. The Washington Redskins

1936
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 1: lost another quarterback last night. They lost another game as well.

1937
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:33,280
Speaker 1: About a month ago, they looked like they might be

1938
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: headed for the playoffs, but not now. Watchington quarterback Colt

1939
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: McCoy broke his right fibula last night in the twenty

1940
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,759
Speaker 1: eight thirteen loss to the Philadelphia Eagles, ending his season

1941
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 1: and only his second start this year. He is the

1942
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 1: second Redskins starting quarterback to suffer such a fate. Alex

1943
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: Smith broke his fibula and tibia back in week eleven

1944
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 1: six and six. Redskins now they have to try to

1945
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 1: stay in the playoff race. With Mark Sanchez as their quarterback.

1946
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: The Stevens are going to try to bounce back from

1947
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 1: back to back losses without running James Connor. Head coach

1948
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin says that Connor is out for this week's

1949
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 1: game against the Oakland Raiders with an injury that he

1950
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 1: suffered on Sunday. Urban Meyer is retiring as head football

1951
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: coach at Ohio State after the Rose Bowl offense accordinay to.

1952
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 1: Ryan Day will take over as head coach starting January second.

1953
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,719
Speaker 1: Meyer has coached Ohio State for the last seven seasons.

1954
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: He's fifty four years old. He's battled the effects of

1955
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 1: ASSIST on his brain over the last several months, which

1956
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: causes several headaches. Buffalo Savers home tonight, coming off a

1957
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 1: three game road strip. They lost them all road trip.

1958
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: Last night. They lost two to one in Nashville. Savers

1959
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: back at key Bank Center tonight to kick off a

1960
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 1: four game homestand first match of the season against the

1961
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Toronto maple Leaves. Puck drops seven thirty tonights game on NBCSN.

1962
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 1: There's a new NHL expansion team coming in a couple

1963
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 1: of years, the thirty second NHL franchise going to Seattle.

1964
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: That announcement came yesterday. And the new Seattle I think

1965
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 1: they have a name. What do they call themselves? To

1966
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 1: the Seattle Knights. I believe they are no not the Knights.

1967
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: Maybe they don't have a name yet, no name, no name.

1968
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:01,599
Speaker 1: He had a name. Interesting. Interesting, Hey, Steve Tasker, John

1969
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 1: if you're here at one Bill's Drive getting set for

1970
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: the Bills in the Jets, And we thought we'd tap

1971
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: into a guy who knows a little bit about both

1972
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: teams and a lot about both quarterbacks. Happy to have

1973
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 1: longtime NFL veteran quarterback Chad Pennington on the line with us.

1974
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 1: He's been a guest with us before before Chad to

1975
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 1: talk about Josh Allen. But you also have extensive experience

1976
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 1: with Sam Darnold, Right, you're the perfect guy to preview

1977
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 1: this game for us, especially from the quarterback spot. Well,

1978
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 1: I've certainly been able to watch Sam over the nine

1979
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: games he's played this year and following him a little

1980
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: bit near in the combine and the draft process as well,

1981
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:34,679
Speaker 1: So I have a little bit of knowledge, but maybe

1982
01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 1: just a little bit to be too too dangerous, tell

1983
01:34:38,880 --> 01:34:40,880
Speaker 1: us a little bit about what Sam's going through. I mean,

1984
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: he's been out of the lineup with a foot strain.

1985
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:49,759
Speaker 1: And we my broadcast crew broadcast their game in Tennessee

1986
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 1: this last week. They jumped out early and it was

1987
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 1: up until the last minute to whether Sam was going

1988
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: to play or not, and then he was deactivated. What's

1989
01:34:56,439 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 1: his status, Well, I'm not for sure of his status.

1990
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 1: I think that Top Bowls did reference that he could

1991
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 1: have maybe played against Tennessee, but they felt like that

1992
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 1: he did not get enough reps to be prepared and

1993
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 1: ready to play against Tennessee. So I think the expectation

1994
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 1: is that he will play possibly on Sunday, but the

1995
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: decision has not been made yet as my understanding, and

1996
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: quite honestly, I think they're not going to rush this decision.

1997
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 1: I think I would imagine if it were me, that

1998
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 1: any type of time that Sam gets to take a

1999
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,880
Speaker 1: step back and watch a veteran operate, even if you're losing,

2000
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: but watch how he operates the inside and outside of

2001
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 1: the huddle, can also be beneficial as well, because I

2002
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: think you guys know I've said this time and time again.

2003
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 1: You know, playing a rookie quarterback is really difficult, and

2004
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 1: it's difficult for the quarterback as well, because he doesn't

2005
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,880
Speaker 1: get a chance to make mistakes behind closed doors, and

2006
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 1: when you have to make your mistakes on a national

2007
01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:56,000
Speaker 1: set and stage, it's much more difficult to handle. Hey,

2008
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: speaking of the national stage Steve Steve Tasker here ched

2009
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 1: brought up, but just a couple of months ago. I

2010
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:03,560
Speaker 1: think it was the first Monday night football game of

2011
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,640
Speaker 1: the year, right, the Lions and the Jets, and and

2012
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 1: Darnold had such an auspicious start, right the first pass

2013
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 1: comes out of his hand, gets returned for a touchdown.

2014
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 1: But he rebounded well from that. He had some pretty

2015
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: good moments in his stint when he was playing earlier

2016
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:19,759
Speaker 1: this season, didn't he he has. He's played like a rookie,

2017
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 1: that's the best way to describe it. He's had some

2018
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 1: really good moments and moments where all of us, as

2019
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,639
Speaker 1: Jet fans and evaluators get really excited about the potential.

2020
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 1: And then he has rookie twenty one year old moments

2021
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 1: as well. And that's one thing I think we all

2022
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: have to understand is that Sam is twenty one years old.

2023
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 1: When I was a rookie old twenty four, and I

2024
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: wasn't prepared to twenty four, much less twenty one. And

2025
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 1: so that maturation process, not only as a football player

2026
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 1: but just as a person is so important when it

2027
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 1: comes to being a professional. And so patience is going

2028
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:55,519
Speaker 1: to be the key word here and My only hope

2029
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 1: and prayers that the organization is patient with Sam, because

2030
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't think this is let's look at him in

2031
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 1: a year or two. This is, Hey, We've got to

2032
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,720
Speaker 1: be patient because we won him around for the long haul,

2033
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 1: which is a much longer process that it involved. As

2034
01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you're part of the guys who evaluate and

2035
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 1: watched Jet quarterbacks, and coming up into the draft, you

2036
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: evaluated all of those guys. Let's start with some of

2037
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: the other guys besides Sam. Josh Allen coming in to

2038
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 1: the starting role. He's been he was out for a

2039
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: while with an elbow, but now he's back and really

2040
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 1: probably had a little bit of a splashy performance by

2041
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 1: any stretch any evaluation process this last weekend. What do

2042
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 1: you see in Josh Allen? Well, coming into the draft

2043
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: and even out of the draft, I think evaluators were

2044
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: excited about the physical talent, specifically the armed talent. They

2045
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 1: knew about his athleticism. But I'll be honest with you,

2046
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,600
Speaker 1: the last couple of games, he has amazed me with

2047
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: some of the plays that he has made. At his

2048
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 1: size and frame. To be able to do some of

2049
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 1: the things that he's doing is quite remarkable, and so

2050
01:37:57,080 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 1: I think the physical talent is there, and I think

2051
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 1: that the biggest challenge for him is how do you

2052
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 1: hone that talent into being an efficient quarterback. Sometimes people

2053
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 1: who play quarterback are great football players, but not necessarily

2054
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks, and they have to learn how to be

2055
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 1: a quarterback. And sometimes that involves d athletes de athlete

2056
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 1: in yourself, if there's such a word, because it requires

2057
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:25,560
Speaker 1: you to do certain things laterally, decision making wise that

2058
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 1: may not be as flashy, but are within the best

2059
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: interest of the team and what you're trying to get accomplished.

2060
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 1: And so I think for him the biggest challenge is

2061
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 1: being able to find out what he is and who

2062
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 1: he is as a quarterback and how that worked. And

2063
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 1: then also I think the accuracy that's that's something that

2064
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 1: is going to be, you know, a challenge for him,

2065
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 1: not a challenge with something to improve upon to where

2066
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 1: he's not seen as a thrower and he seemed more

2067
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,479
Speaker 1: as a passer. And to me, there's a difference because

2068
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 1: that involves accuracy, It involves timing, It involves seeing the

2069
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 1: field in three dimensions, not two dimensions, and being able

2070
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 1: to throw up and down into those pockets and not

2071
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 1: just into those two dimensional windows. All Right, you lost

2072
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 1: me a little bit there at Chad. Let me ask

2073
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 1: you what do you mean by lateral decision making as

2074
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback? What are you thinking of there? Well, when

2075
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 1: you think of a quarterback and how they play, it's

2076
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 1: not a linear position, it's not a forward and backwards position.

2077
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 1: It's really a side to side position movement in the pocket,

2078
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 1: you're on the edges of your cleats. You're moving side

2079
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 1: to side and trying to make subtle movements to remain

2080
01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:34,280
Speaker 1: a passer. Because we've seen time and time again history

2081
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 1: will show us that when a quarterback becomes linear and

2082
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 1: he wants to run all the time, the outcome is

2083
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,800
Speaker 1: not really good because these athletes at level are so

2084
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,719
Speaker 1: good and they make you pay, and quite frankly, as quarterbacks,

2085
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: we cannot withstand the beating that running backs and ride

2086
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,559
Speaker 1: receivers and tight ends take when they're running with the football.

2087
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,640
Speaker 1: And that's something that I think has misunderstood, and so

2088
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 1: you've got to learn how to protect yourself, slide within

2089
01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 1: the pocket, remain a passer because the ball t apples

2090
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:02,800
Speaker 1: faster and farther than you can as a person and

2091
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 1: you can be much more productive and have more longevity

2092
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 1: that way. That's a great answer, And I've been asking

2093
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: Steve and other people around the building here and some

2094
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:13,240
Speaker 1: of our listeners. Look, he only ran nine times against

2095
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Josh Allen did, but I just got the

2096
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 1: sense that maybe it's a little too much, not even

2097
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:19,719
Speaker 1: in terms of the number of runs a volume of runs,

2098
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 1: but the decision of when to run. Do you see

2099
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 1: that when you see Josh, what do you think? Against

2100
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:27,640
Speaker 1: the Dolphins? There was a play that I really is

2101
01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 1: the epitome of what he's capable of doing, and that

2102
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 1: was when he was backed up in his own end zone.

2103
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 1: He was flushed out to his left and made a

2104
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,599
Speaker 1: great throw right on the sideline. The receiver is able

2105
01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 1: to get both seed and bounds for completion. That's the

2106
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:43,799
Speaker 1: type of escapability you want to see at least sixty

2107
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 1: to seventy percent of the time, and then that other

2108
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,679
Speaker 1: thirty percent if he has to go get that extra

2109
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,599
Speaker 1: yarded with his feet, by all means do it, especially

2110
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:54,559
Speaker 1: when he's a younger quarterback. You know, Steve Young did

2111
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,240
Speaker 1: that a lot early in his career, and then as

2112
01:40:57,320 --> 01:40:59,479
Speaker 1: you start to get older and more wise and have

2113
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 1: more this game your life. I'm not gonna last for

2114
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 1: it long if I keep this up. So what can

2115
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,639
Speaker 1: I do to remain a passer and become more accurate

2116
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 1: and let these guys that get paid to catch the

2117
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,759
Speaker 1: football and run with it. Let's then take on that dude, gotcha?

2118
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 1: And one more thing I just to clarify, And you

2119
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,120
Speaker 1: mentioned as a quarterback you got to see the field

2120
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: in three dimensions, not two. What do you mean by that?

2121
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Two dimensions means that you see a window straight in

2122
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 1: front of you, a hole straight in front of you,

2123
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:27,560
Speaker 1: with nobody in your vision, nobody's blocking your vision to

2124
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 1: make that throw. Three dimensions means that there actually is

2125
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 1: a defender in that hole, but there's a pocket behind

2126
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: that defender between the second level and the third levels

2127
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 1: defense where you can get that ball up over that

2128
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,760
Speaker 1: first defender and back down to receiver before that third

2129
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 1: level gets there. And that's really the key in our league.

2130
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 1: Because these guys people talk about the speed of the

2131
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 1: game being different. I think the speed between cause and

2132
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 1: the pros is actually quite similar. What is different is

2133
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: the knowledge that goes with the speed in the pro game,

2134
01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 1: And so you combine that knowledge, that anticipation that these

2135
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 1: players have now that they're on the pro level, the

2136
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 1: experience that they have, they're anticipating things. They're recognizing things faster,

2137
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: which means those windows closed fasters. Not that they can

2138
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,600
Speaker 1: run faster, they have the same speed, but their anticipation

2139
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 1: is much better. And so now you've got to be

2140
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 1: able to manipulate the ball up over a defender and

2141
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: back down and find these sweet spot turkey holes as

2142
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 1: we call them, to be able, especially with these chunk plays,

2143
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 1: these seam throws, these throws on the sideline, You've got

2144
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,200
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. They're not line drive throws.

2145
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 1: They have to have Arkham pays, sounds really difficult. I

2146
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:40,480
Speaker 1: gotta say, doesn't it mean it is difficult? Sounds really difficulty.

2147
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a couple of the

2148
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 1: other rookie quarterbacks. First of all, talk about Sam Darnald.

2149
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 1: Once again, Jimmy four were leaving. What do you think

2150
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 1: is the next step for him? That as a casual fan,

2151
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:52,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch these games and said, oh, there's something

2152
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 1: that Sam Darnald is doing better. What would that be?

2153
01:42:55,760 --> 01:43:01,120
Speaker 1: I think that he makes more decisive reads and his

2154
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 1: decision making is a little bit cleaner. I can tell

2155
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 1: and I watch him. He will see it and then

2156
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 1: not trust what he sees sometimes and then take that

2157
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 1: extra tenth of a second before he makes that throw.

2158
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 1: You'll see him double clutch it. Every once in a while,

2159
01:43:13,439 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: you may see his footwork get out of whack and

2160
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 1: then he makes a throw off balance because his body's

2161
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:20,880
Speaker 1: not trusting what he sees. And so I would like

2162
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:23,200
Speaker 1: to see him, just as an evaluator as a fan,

2163
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 1: be more decisive to get that ball out of his hand,

2164
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 1: be more crisp with his footwork, and make those little

2165
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:33,600
Speaker 1: improvements that will then create a consistency that you're looking for,

2166
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 1: because sometimes you can make a great read and then

2167
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 1: if your footwork is not correct and then you make

2168
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 1: an errand throw, you're still over one and a second

2169
01:43:40,560 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 1: and ten, even though mentally you were right. And so

2170
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 1: being able to get the mental and physical working hand

2171
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 1: in hand is the big challenge. Yeah, I want to

2172
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,640
Speaker 1: move on down the list of all those quarterbacks that

2173
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 1: were drafting in the first round, the first pick overall,

2174
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:56,200
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Now he's getting probably more reps than any

2175
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback this season I've seen him play in person,

2176
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 1: and he seems to have all of it. But he

2177
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 1: played extremely well against Cincinnati two weeks ago, not so

2178
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 1: much this past week against the Houston Texans. What are

2179
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: you seeing Baker Mayfield playing like a rookie right up

2180
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 1: and down? And that's why you know, you've got to

2181
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,200
Speaker 1: have a team that's able to kind of help help

2182
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 1: these guys along and create short fields and turnovers and

2183
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 1: things like that to make up for their inconsistency. But

2184
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 1: I will say that when I saw him throw us

2185
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 1: to Combine, and that's a senior Bowl, I felt like

2186
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 1: he was actually the best passer in the group and

2187
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 1: was able to make these three dimensional throws on a

2188
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 1: regular basis by the way he throws the ball and

2189
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 1: passes the football, And so I thought he wasn't getting

2190
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 1: enough credit that he was actually viewed as kind of

2191
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:46,520
Speaker 1: a runner and a runaround guy, but in all actuality,

2192
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 1: he was more of a passer and being able to

2193
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 1: make these tougher throws. I felt like he was really

2194
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 1: really good at that, and so that's where I felt

2195
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 1: like it was justified in the Browns taking him that

2196
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 1: as the first pick, or anyone for that matter, in

2197
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,560
Speaker 1: the first top teen. I felt like that was a

2198
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,560
Speaker 1: justified pick. And then I also like just the r

2199
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 1: that he brings. I think that players follow him. They

2200
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,680
Speaker 1: feel like that he's in their corner. He's tied into

2201
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:12,560
Speaker 1: the emotion of the game and playing with emotion and

2202
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 1: playing with and for his teammates, and I think that

2203
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,600
Speaker 1: goes a long way, especially as a young players. To me,

2204
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: as a young player, because you haven't proven yourself yet,

2205
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:23,840
Speaker 1: the one way that you can lead is to be

2206
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 1: the biggest cheerleader on the team and to be the

2207
01:45:26,439 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 1: encourager and the guy that really tries to rally the

2208
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,080
Speaker 1: guys because right now you don't have enough helps on

2209
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 1: your back to really give any strong criticism or anything

2210
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 1: like that. But you can be a great cheerleader and

2211
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 1: get behind your teammates and really pump them up. Well,

2212
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 1: all those top quarterbacks that were drafted, Baker Mayfield, Josh Allen,

2213
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, and Josh Rosen, all of them have started

2214
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,719
Speaker 1: games and that they all have losing records. But there's

2215
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: one first round quarterback that actually has a winning record.

2216
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 1: He's three and oz with the Baltimore ravens Lamar Jackson

2217
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 1: seems to be a really good quarterback early in his

2218
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 1: career well, and really, the Ravens have had experience with

2219
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:07,519
Speaker 1: this rookie quarterback thing before Joe Flacco played as a rookie.

2220
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 1: I actually lost to Joe Black Odwice in two thousand

2221
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 1: and eight as a rookie. And that's my point. When

2222
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:17,879
Speaker 1: you start a rookie quarterback to really have true team success,

2223
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 1: and if you're looking for true team success, you've got

2224
01:46:21,200 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 1: to make sure that your team around him can make

2225
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: up for some of the lack of experience and the

2226
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: inefficiencies that he's going to have. And so when you

2227
01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:33,600
Speaker 1: look at the Baltimore Ravens, their defense has played outstanding

2228
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,280
Speaker 1: and done some really good things for their team. And

2229
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,360
Speaker 1: then with Lamar, he has that X factor that's not

2230
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 1: very many people on this planet have, and that's the

2231
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: ability to make six time plays with his legs. And

2232
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 1: so his biggest challenge moving forward will be to become

2233
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 1: a more accurate passer and be able to intertwine that

2234
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 1: into his game, because there's no doubt that he brings

2235
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:59,240
Speaker 1: a different dimension that defenses have to really focus in on.

2236
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,040
Speaker 1: But once they get film on that and they see

2237
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: how to defend him as a runner. He's going to

2238
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 1: have to beat them as a passer. All quarterbacks eventually

2239
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 1: have to do that to have any longevity and success

2240
01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 1: in this league. Talking with Chad Pennington, former Jets quarterback,

2241
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 1: former first round pick of the Jets in two thousand, Chad,

2242
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 1: one more question for you about Sam Darnold, And it

2243
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 1: strikes me that, I mean, let's face it, the chances

2244
01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,519
Speaker 1: of Todd Bowls being around next year don't look real promising.

2245
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 1: And so Sam Darnold and a couple of others, maybe

2246
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: rookies this year are going to have to have a

2247
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 1: new head coach and probably a new offensive coordinator next year.

2248
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,760
Speaker 1: That doesn't help the transition, doesn't It doesn't it? I

2249
01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:38,360
Speaker 1: would think it interrupts maybe the growing process for these guys.

2250
01:47:38,439 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 1: What do you think? I completely agree. And when you

2251
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:44,160
Speaker 1: look at the success of our quarterbacks that have really

2252
01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:48,360
Speaker 1: created longevity in this league, there's been stability within the organization.

2253
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 1: And when you have organizational instability, it's very difficult for

2254
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 1: anybody to be successful, but extremely difficult and almost impossible

2255
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,080
Speaker 1: for a quarterback to be successful. And so for any

2256
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 1: of these teams that have rickey quarterbacks that will make

2257
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,599
Speaker 1: a head coaching decision. I think you have to completely

2258
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 1: post the reset button and you have to start over.

2259
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,240
Speaker 1: Is if you just drafted this quarterback this year, when

2260
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 1: this new head coach comes in, you have to throw

2261
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 1: away the first year because you can't expect a new

2262
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,919
Speaker 1: head coach to come in and just get you continue

2263
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 1: to build upon what was or what wasn't because it's

2264
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 1: a completely new slate. You don't know what scheme's going

2265
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 1: to be taught, footwork is gonna be taught, fought process.

2266
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the biggest things for quarterbacks is

2267
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 1: to be on the same page as the coordinator. Meaning

2268
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 1: when the coordinator calls a play, when he calls it

2269
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 1: on first and ten, he's talking to me one way.

2270
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 1: When he calls it on throws and six, he's talking

2271
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:43,040
Speaker 1: to me another way. And that's without saying anything. That's

2272
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 1: just what the play call. You only get that with

2273
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 1: experience with each other and working with each other. That's

2274
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 1: why we call it a team. And so I would

2275
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,920
Speaker 1: past the reset button if it were me, if I

2276
01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 1: was an owner and bringing in a new head coach

2277
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:57,799
Speaker 1: and just start completely over. As far as the process

2278
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 1: with the quarterback, that I've drafted well before we let

2279
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 1: you go, I just want the last thing I wanted

2280
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:04,599
Speaker 1: to console you on a tragedy to destruct your life.

2281
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:06,679
Speaker 1: You've just been named a head coach of the high school.

2282
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 1: You've you've gone into coaching, you poor soul. Well, it

2283
01:49:13,479 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 1: was it was my choice. Sayer School here in Lesting

2284
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 1: in Kentucky has not had football since nineteen seventy six,

2285
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:23,280
Speaker 1: and so we chose my oldest son. We feel like

2286
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: this was a really good place for him to go academically,

2287
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 1: and they have. We have been talking about it for

2288
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. He said, well, if we're

2289
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 1: going to do it, you've got to lead it. And

2290
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 1: so I said, well, I think i'll I'll try to

2291
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 1: make that sacrifice for us and then hopefully be able

2292
01:49:40,240 --> 01:49:42,560
Speaker 1: to pass it off. But our first year was a

2293
01:49:42,640 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 1: lot of fun. And I tell you, football just has

2294
01:49:45,200 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 1: the unique ability to bring people together and to create

2295
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 1: community and school spirit, and and it also has the

2296
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: unique ability to take any player and as long as

2297
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 1: they're willing to work harld and have a little grit

2298
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 1: about him, we'll find a place for you to contribute

2299
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 1: and to be part of the team. And I think

2300
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,560
Speaker 1: that's one of the great attributes of our game, and

2301
01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 1: I've really enjoyed it so far. All right, congratulations on

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01:50:05,200 --> 01:50:06,920
Speaker 1: that chat. I was only teasing about that, but I

2303
01:50:07,000 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 1: do think going into coaching a little bit like turning

2304
01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 1: to the dark side. But I wish you all the best. Well,

2305
01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 1: a lot of people say you turned to the dark

2306
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 1: side of going to the media. Lets let's say, yeah,

2307
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 1: I have a black heart. It's dark, dark and dark,

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01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,240
Speaker 1: and I have a yeah, I have a crushed spirit.

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01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 1: That's right, Hey, Chad, than thanks for this great insight

2310
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 1: and into those quarterbacks, and good luck with the high

2311
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: school team down in Kentucky. We appreciate it. All right,

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01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 1: thank you. There you go. Chad Pennington on the line

2313
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 1: with his former first round pick of the Jets in

2314
01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 1: two thousand. He actually helped coach Josh Allen at the

2315
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,600
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl last year. You've been around Josh. He's been

2316
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:46,640
Speaker 1: around of course Sam Donald with the Jets, and I

2317
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 1: thought really interesting takes on where they're at. He was

2318
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 1: a far underrated quarterback. He had shoulder injuries that really

2319
01:50:53,680 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 1: sapped the strength of his arms as his career progressed,

2320
01:50:57,600 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 1: and I think that's really what got him out. He

2321
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:01,360
Speaker 1: was an excellent quarterback, a great leader, had a lot

2322
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 1: of intangibles that worked for him. I was always really

2323
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 1: impressed when I sat down with him in production meetings

2324
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 1: his ability and he did this a little bit because

2325
01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 1: of the injuries to his shoulder. He anticipated throws better

2326
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: than any quarterback I've ever been around where ever seen.

2327
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 1: He was unbelievable at it, and he had to be

2328
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 1: because his arm had left him. And really he was

2329
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,760
Speaker 1: a great quarterback that really never got the chance to

2330
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 1: do it because of injuries to his career. Chad Pennington

2331
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 1: joined us on the Subway Fresh Take hotline, presented by

2332
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 1: Subway Restaurants, probably to be locally owned and operated. His

2333
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:36,880
Speaker 1: analysis of Josh boy it was good to hear that

2334
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 1: because and I, you know, I'm not as articulated as

2335
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 1: he is and you are sometimes and I've been saying

2336
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:44,719
Speaker 1: it for a couple of days. The way the Bills

2337
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 1: played offense Sunday is not sustainable. I believe that. But

2338
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 1: Chad sort of indicated exactly what has to happen and

2339
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 1: what it sounded like he believes will happen with Josh Allen.

2340
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 1: He will eventually spend the extra tenth of a second

2341
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: in the pocket work. What did he call it? Lateral

2342
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:02,680
Speaker 1: aision making? Yeah, I mean and make a decision to

2343
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 1: take a little quarter step to his right and wait

2344
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 1: and fire it downfield. Then, and I think, look, I

2345
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,040
Speaker 1: think that's going to happen with the Josh Ellen. I do.

2346
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 1: The sooner the better, because as Pennington said, he said

2347
01:52:13,840 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 1: right out almost at the start of the interview, quarterbacks

2348
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:18,640
Speaker 1: are run like that. I'm not going to survive it.

2349
01:52:18,760 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 1: Just doesn't. You can't survive like that. You're not built

2350
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:22,599
Speaker 1: to take the kind of hits that you take when

2351
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:24,519
Speaker 1: you run it as much as Josh's run it the

2352
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Well, there's a couple of things

2353
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 1: at work, and we've been talking about him, or we

2354
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 1: talk about him all the time. Chat all needs better, guys.

2355
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:33,080
Speaker 1: He needs the offensive line to play better in front

2356
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:35,799
Speaker 1: of him. He needs better, more experienced and more productive

2357
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:39,680
Speaker 1: wide outs and maybe more speed on the outside to

2358
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 1: help him. When the offensive line gets better, the running

2359
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:44,720
Speaker 1: game will be a little bit better. It will help him.

2360
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,640
Speaker 1: And then, But for right now, what we're seeing, in

2361
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 1: my opinion, is his athleticism is overtaking all those problems

2362
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:54,920
Speaker 1: and trying to make every play a success, and he

2363
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 1: has to use his own athleticism to do that. We've

2364
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: seen flashes, and particularly in this Miami game, where he

2365
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 1: stood in the pocket and made some throws and they

2366
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 1: were really good. They made some really good throws. And

2367
01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:10,640
Speaker 1: so I think when he the offensive line and when

2368
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 1: the players around him earn his trust to stand in

2369
01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:16,519
Speaker 1: there and be the guy that won't run around at

2370
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 1: first at first pressure, that will stand in there and

2371
01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 1: make those throws, then we'll see more of it. But

2372
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: until that happens, you know, we're still I think when

2373
01:53:25,800 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 1: his competitive spirit kicks in, he's not going to just

2374
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 1: stand in there and take a sack getting out. And

2375
01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 1: I think that's that's where we're at right now with him.

2376
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:35,880
Speaker 1: And the play he made at the end of the

2377
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:40,719
Speaker 1: game really sticks with me because he bought so much time.

2378
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 1: He ran around like a crazy man. It looks like

2379
01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:45,679
Speaker 1: fran Tarkington back there, turning his back to the line

2380
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, running then turning back the other way, wheeling around.

2381
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 1: He came up, bought some time and then had a

2382
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:52,840
Speaker 1: throw to make to a guy who had found an

2383
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:58,479
Speaker 1: open area, and it's total schoolyard football. It's totally off

2384
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 1: the page of the playbook. It's totally creative. But when

2385
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 1: you've got players who are confident that you're gonna get

2386
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 1: away and give them a chance, they're gonna work hard

2387
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,679
Speaker 1: to get open. And Charles Clay did. He got open.

2388
01:54:09,720 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 1: They couldn't connect on the pass. But if you connect

2389
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 1: on a pass like that perfect example, they win that game.

2390
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be the last play of the game.

2391
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 1: It could be in the first quarter and it's still

2392
01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 1: the play that wins the game. With a defense like

2393
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:26,960
Speaker 1: the Bills have, you never know. But those that play

2394
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 1: and maybe one or two others like it throughout the

2395
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 1: course of the game, win those games. And his ability

2396
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:36,120
Speaker 1: to make them happen off the page is what we're

2397
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:38,080
Speaker 1: seeing right now. And I guess that's fine. You talked

2398
01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 1: a lot yesterday about how that lost sticks with you,

2399
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:42,040
Speaker 1: and it does. That loss hurts because he saw how

2400
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:44,040
Speaker 1: close they were. But in the back of my mind,

2401
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:47,320
Speaker 1: also because of that play and others the way Josh played,

2402
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 1: I think to myself that we make that play next time.

2403
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 1: We get that play next time, right, don't you think? Yeah?

2404
01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you do those even out after a while,

2405
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 1: when you got great athletes out there working as hard

2406
01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 1: as they work, you get that play next time. I

2407
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 1: really believe that will be the case. Football is the

2408
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 1: consummate team sport, and I we talk about it all

2409
01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:07,160
Speaker 1: the time inside the locker room, outside the people. Radio

2410
01:55:07,240 --> 01:55:09,000
Speaker 1: guys like us talk about it because we see it.

2411
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 1: For instance, a great kick returner, pump returner, he's sketching Wow.

2412
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:16,840
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, wow, look at that guy return it. And

2413
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 1: what happens is the other ten guys that are in

2414
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:21,400
Speaker 1: front of him on the field with him, the return team,

2415
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:25,400
Speaker 1: they gain confidence. They start knocking guys over, they start

2416
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 1: working harder in front of him, they start gaining confidence

2417
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 1: in front of him. That's what's gonna happen to Isaiah McKenzie,

2418
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 1: Robert Foster, Zay Jones, Kelvin, Benjamin Lashawn McCoy, Chris Ivory,

2419
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 1: Marcus Murphy, Charles Clay. All these guys are gonna gain confidence.

2420
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: And the same thing with the offensive mine. They're all

2421
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,240
Speaker 1: gonna gain confidence that Josh is gonna give him a chance,

2422
01:55:46,280 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 1: and they're gonna push themselves go deeper into the play,

2423
01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 1: find more ways to practice being open, give him some help.

2424
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:55,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna start seeing a guy who can do that,

2425
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 1: and they're gonna start jumping on board with him. And

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01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 1: that's when it starts to take off a little bit. Now. Yeah,

2427
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:04,920
Speaker 1: like we said, it's okay when it happens. But you're

2428
01:56:04,960 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 1: not gonna call quarterback draw every series, you know. I mean,

2429
01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:11,360
Speaker 1: you need that to happen, so we can, you know,

2430
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:13,240
Speaker 1: stand back there and make a throw on time once

2431
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 1: in a while as well. Here's Steven east Amhurst. Go ahead, Steve,

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01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 1: you'reund the air with us, Steve Hi, Hey, what a

2433
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:24,800
Speaker 1: great interview without Chad Pennington. Oh, thank you? Yeah he

2434
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 1: was good. Yeah, he's good. That old decision making and

2435
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 1: in the vision for the dimensions of throwing the past

2436
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 1: or that through the window. You guys handle that beautifully. Well,

2437
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,880
Speaker 1: thank you, Thanks Steve. I'd like to put my vote

2438
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:44,120
Speaker 1: for Steve Tasker to another vote for Steve Tasker. They're

2439
01:56:44,160 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 1: piling in today for whatever reason. Yeah, we got three.

2440
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: That's when we've had after the last week. Steve. I

2441
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 1: appreciate it. What else you got? Well? Answer is it? Um?

2442
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 1: How how old does Josh Allen chap into that some

2443
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:12,560
Speaker 1: of that exceptionally insightful coaching and and um insights from Chads.

2444
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 1: I need to well, I gotta believe Steve that he's

2445
01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 1: getting pretty much a lot of the same comments from

2446
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 1: from his coaching staff, right. I mean, when you think,

2447
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:22,800
Speaker 1: I think that we got some pretty smart coaches here,

2448
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that Brian Dable and his crew are

2449
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:27,720
Speaker 1: going over the They might call it something different than

2450
01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 1: Chad Pennington calls it the lateral decision making, but don't

2451
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 1: you you gotta believe that they see it. I'm sure

2452
01:57:32,960 --> 01:57:35,200
Speaker 1: they are. And I was thinking about this too. And

2453
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 1: we're approaching the end of the season, four games left,

2454
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 1: and if Josh Allen continues on this, and it may

2455
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 1: not happen that they will get better the next four weeks.

2456
01:57:43,120 --> 01:57:45,240
Speaker 1: But if he continues on this upward trend as far

2457
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 1: as his improvement, that's real coaching going into that there. Well,

2458
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 1: it really is, and I think I will talk about

2459
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:53,720
Speaker 1: it and there might be a you know, a downturn

2460
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 1: in the next four weeks, but there's some real coaching

2461
01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:57,200
Speaker 1: going on. You can see it in the way Josh

2462
01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 1: as well. The Bills are in the rookie quarterback business,

2463
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 1: so you can bet that he's gonna take a step

2464
01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 1: back in one of these games, you're gonna look like like,

2465
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know where where was this? Where

2466
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 1: was this Miami game? Where you know that kind of thing.

2467
01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:10,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna go through that. Baker Mayfield's doing it, Josh

2468
01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 1: Rosen's doing it, Lamar Jackson to a certain exstance. Certainly

2469
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold who trying to get back on the field.

2470
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're gonna you're gonna have up some downs

2471
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:21,040
Speaker 1: with him. But make no mistake that the Bills coaches,

2472
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they've all got a ton of experience. They've

2473
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:27,240
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you've got to throw it over this

2474
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:29,160
Speaker 1: guy in front of that guy. They get that three

2475
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 1: dimensional field that Chad Pennington was talking about. They get

2476
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 1: that they and they studied on film. But I think

2477
01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 1: one of the things about this coaching they draft these guys,

2478
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:40,880
Speaker 1: they vet these guys. The thing that Josh Allen had

2479
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 1: going for him is obviously all these physical skills that

2480
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:45,360
Speaker 1: we're seeing. But in the like in the Wonderlick Test

2481
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:48,360
Speaker 1: and the pre draft, Josh Allen was nine points higher

2482
01:58:48,400 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 1: than the second rated of those four quarterbacks in the draft.

2483
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 1: He was nine points higher than on the Wonderlick. He

2484
01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 1: was a smart kid. When you mix a lot of

2485
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:03,280
Speaker 1: physical ability with a lot of intelligence and a hard

2486
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 1: work ethic with some great coaching, you know, if you

2487
01:59:06,360 --> 01:59:10,440
Speaker 1: expect good results, not right away, but certainly you expect

2488
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:13,600
Speaker 1: to change in the kid's performance. We're getting it. Yeah. Um,

2489
01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna there's no doubt this is gonna be a

2490
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:18,000
Speaker 1: roller coaster of these next four games. He's gonna throw

2491
01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:20,440
Speaker 1: some more picks, he's gonna throw some more touchdowns. He's

2492
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:23,920
Speaker 1: gonna run when he shouldn't and not slide quicker. He's

2493
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 1: gonna do all that stuff on a on a week

2494
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:29,720
Speaker 1: to week basis. But I'll tell you what, he took

2495
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:32,640
Speaker 1: a step forward against Miami that was noticeable by not

2496
01:59:32,840 --> 01:59:36,160
Speaker 1: just the people here in Buffalo. The Miami defense was

2497
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:39,880
Speaker 1: talking about football focus was quarterback of the week. I

2498
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 1: mean that that was an eye popping performance by him.

2499
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:45,040
Speaker 1: And so it's, uh, it's there's a lot to be

2500
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:48,640
Speaker 1: excited about. He's getting coaching and it's working. I see that.

2501
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking back to a conversation I had with

2502
01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 1: extremely high ranking member of the Bills organization over the

2503
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: weekend about Josh and how you know how he looks

2504
01:59:57,400 --> 01:59:59,760
Speaker 1: as before the Dolphins game, how he looks what he's doing.

2505
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:01,920
Speaker 1: And and this person said to me, and I'll make

2506
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:04,960
Speaker 1: sure that he stays anonymous. But this person said, Hey,

2507
02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:08,320
Speaker 1: the kid grew up through in cantaloups and watermelons on

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Speaker 1: trucks in California on his family farm. He's a hard

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Speaker 1: worker too, which goes a lot I think to the

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Speaker 1: success that we're seeing with Josh Ywis, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. But that's an indication of how they view him.

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02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:19,920
Speaker 1: They know that he will work hard and to try

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02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:21,360
Speaker 1: to get the right thing done, and I think they

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Speaker 1: feel encouraged by Yeah, I listen, they're doing everything, I

2515
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:27,120
Speaker 1: mean everything from they're trying to get better on all fronts.

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02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:30,680
Speaker 1: Certainly Josh is a plus for them that you asked

2517
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:32,800
Speaker 1: him today and they're all telling you they hit it

2518
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Speaker 1: just right with him. He's the guy they wanted. He's

2519
02:00:35,800 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 1: better than they thought he was going to be this

2520
02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 1: quick in his career. They're all going to tell you that.

2521
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:43,560
Speaker 1: But also by the same token, they're scouring the waiver wire,

2522
02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:45,600
Speaker 1: they're scouring the practice squads, they're looking at all the

2523
02:00:45,640 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 1: pro personnel that are available, all the free agents that

2524
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 1: are available, they're scouting the college guys coming out. Brandon

2525
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:53,360
Speaker 1: Bean and the college scout. They're out there. They're trying

2526
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Speaker 1: to get better on all fronts, and they're doing it

2527
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:59,080
Speaker 1: in the meeting room with him. They're giving him. They're

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Speaker 1: giving him enough on his plate to keep him challenged

2529
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:03,720
Speaker 1: and getting better, but not too much so that he

2530
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:06,320
Speaker 1: just he doesn't know what to do. It's all a

2531
02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:09,360
Speaker 1: fine balance. And I think the one thing about it

2532
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:12,000
Speaker 1: is you can tell and this is they're pulling in

2533
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:15,200
Speaker 1: the same direction and starts with Josh. And I think

2534
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:18,160
Speaker 1: the results that we saw in Josh's game as opposed

2535
02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 1: to earlier in the season are marked. I mean there

2536
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:25,560
Speaker 1: there was a big difference. He looked more confident, he

2537
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:28,400
Speaker 1: ran better, made decisions at the end of his runs better.

2538
02:01:29,480 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 1: He made a couple of stand in the pocket, look off,

2539
02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:35,640
Speaker 1: come back and throw a dart throws. There was a

2540
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 1: lot to be optimistic about. And I think there's no question,

2541
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:42,360
Speaker 1: as you just mentioned, Murph, it is the result of

2542
02:01:42,400 --> 02:01:44,120
Speaker 1: a lot of hard work that he's putting in. Hey,

2543
02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:46,879
Speaker 1: we're getting we'll get more of your questions and comments

2544
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:48,920
Speaker 1: on the air when we return. We're getting suggestions for

2545
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:51,680
Speaker 1: future Twitter polls. We didn't have one today. We're a

2546
02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:55,000
Speaker 1: little bit gun shy after prompting the Sabers losing streak.

2547
02:01:55,160 --> 02:01:56,880
Speaker 1: But we'll come back and talk more about that plus

2548
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:58,920
Speaker 1: NFL true and false when we come back, Why don't

2549
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:00,680
Speaker 1: you come back? One does live from One Bills Drive

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02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bill's Radio, and let's get inside the Numbers,

2551
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Speaker 1: New York Glato Inside the Numbers, I ready for this

2552
02:02:21,240 --> 02:02:24,320
Speaker 1: Bill's Rickie. Quarterback Josh Allen became the fourth player in

2553
02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:27,240
Speaker 1: league history to throw at least two touchdown passes and

2554
02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:29,600
Speaker 1: rush for more than one hundred twenty five yards in

2555
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Speaker 1: a single game. Did it last Sunday? He joins Pro

2556
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:35,920
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Famer Walter Payton, Tobin wrote, and Michael

2557
02:02:36,000 --> 02:02:38,360
Speaker 1: Vick the only others who have done it. Tobin wrote,

2558
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:42,720
Speaker 1: they did back in the nineteen fifty one. Michael victed

2559
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:45,480
Speaker 1: it in twenty ten. Walter Payton did it in nineteen

2560
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Speaker 1: eighty three. New York State Lottery. Inside the Numbers, take

2561
02:02:48,080 --> 02:02:50,200
Speaker 1: a break from the expected play scratch off games from

2562
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Speaker 1: the New York Club. It's amazing how you watched that

2563
02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:54,200
Speaker 1: game and we all just watch it. You know where

2564
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 1: Bills fans were watching and said, wow, Josh is doing great.

2565
02:02:56,840 --> 02:02:58,760
Speaker 1: Love it. You know, you kind of know what you're

2566
02:02:58,800 --> 02:03:02,480
Speaker 1: looking at. It's like it was a historic performance, you know,

2567
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:07,280
Speaker 1: because you never see guys do that. Right, I'm not

2568
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:09,160
Speaker 1: saying it. I'm not saying I'm not putting a guy

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02:03:09,360 --> 02:03:11,360
Speaker 1: in a gold jacket. You know, we can although we

2570
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:13,200
Speaker 1: can may as well start a voting process for him

2571
02:03:13,240 --> 02:03:21,200
Speaker 1: too anyway. Right, So what I'm saying is a performance

2572
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:23,720
Speaker 1: like he put on for whatever the statistics say about it.

2573
02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:27,440
Speaker 1: It was unique. It was unique. And I know he's

2574
02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback and they do funky things and you

2575
02:03:30,120 --> 02:03:33,680
Speaker 1: know it's like, okay, you never see that, but it was.

2576
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 1: It was a and he was a huge percentage of

2577
02:03:36,400 --> 02:03:39,720
Speaker 1: the yardage and numbers of the Bill's offense got I

2578
02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 1: think all of us, like all of us like we

2579
02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:44,320
Speaker 1: couldn't have quantified it. But now that you see things

2580
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 1: like that, you know, he's the only guy to do

2581
02:03:45,760 --> 02:03:47,520
Speaker 1: this is third guy in history of fourth guy in

2582
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 1: history to do that. He's leading the you know, you've

2583
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 1: never seen a rookie quarterback to do this. It's pretty

2584
02:03:52,680 --> 02:03:54,440
Speaker 1: unique and we're kind of you kind of recognize it

2585
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:56,960
Speaker 1: without knowing the numbers. Here's what has happened to me,

2586
02:03:57,360 --> 02:03:59,400
Speaker 1: and I won't speak for anybody else in my UH.

2587
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm servation to Josh Allen. The last couple of games,

2588
02:04:02,240 --> 02:04:05,240
Speaker 1: his speed shocks me. And it did against the UH,

2589
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:09,680
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, and again last Sunday. His foot speed is amazing.

2590
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:12,440
Speaker 1: Look and you come into the draft and you get

2591
02:04:12,520 --> 02:04:14,520
Speaker 1: drafted anybody so well. He's athletic. He can run a

2592
02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:16,760
Speaker 1: little bit. No, no, he can run a lot. He

2593
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 1: can beat guys. He can he can turn Keiko Alonso

2594
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:22,440
Speaker 1: in circles downfield. He can't stay talking about that. I know,

2595
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:25,240
Speaker 1: but Keiko is a pretty good defender and a pretty

2596
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:28,800
Speaker 1: fast defender. Josh Allen and outran him. He outran defensive

2597
02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:32,040
Speaker 1: backs last week against Jacksonville. That's the part that opened

2598
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:33,800
Speaker 1: my eyes. The last couple of weeks. His speed, his

2599
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:37,280
Speaker 1: flat out speed was amazing. Listen, those the Miami defenders

2600
02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:39,160
Speaker 1: are going in the locker room. They won that game,

2601
02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:41,880
Speaker 1: and they're talking and somebody brings up Josh Allen. They're

2602
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 1: looking sideways at each other. They're going, man, that he

2603
02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:48,800
Speaker 1: caught him by surprise. Keiko Alonso had no shot again,

2604
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:50,320
Speaker 1: he was out running him. He did it a couple

2605
02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 1: of times. Kikos fast. Keiko's an athletic line He's an

2606
02:04:53,520 --> 02:04:58,840
Speaker 1: undersized athletic linebacker used in coverage, and he's eat Josh

2607
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:01,960
Speaker 1: was too much for him. Yeah, athletically yep. I mean again,

2608
02:05:02,240 --> 02:05:04,240
Speaker 1: And that's sustainable, right, I don't want you don't want

2609
02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:06,640
Speaker 1: to agree or disagree with me. Do you don't have

2610
02:05:06,720 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 1: the Bill's offensive look like this next year at this time? No, Well,

2611
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:11,800
Speaker 1: if he stays healthy, I don't care if they win games.

2612
02:05:11,840 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 1: I don't care if he you know. But here's the thing. No, No,

2613
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:17,600
Speaker 1: it's more than if he stays healthy. It's if they

2614
02:05:17,640 --> 02:05:19,560
Speaker 1: win games is more important. I don't know that that's

2615
02:05:19,560 --> 02:05:23,280
Speaker 1: a winning that sustainable offense because what they've done the

2616
02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:25,560
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, because we've seen it, all of

2617
02:05:25,640 --> 02:05:27,800
Speaker 1: us who have watched football. The longer you've watched it,

2618
02:05:27,880 --> 02:05:30,040
Speaker 1: the more it's been proven to your time and time again.

2619
02:05:30,320 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 1: Sooner or later, you gotta pay the piper and the

2620
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:36,800
Speaker 1: guy goes down. Josh Allen went down to an elbow

2621
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:38,240
Speaker 1: injury earlier in the year, and he was just standing

2622
02:05:38,240 --> 02:05:40,200
Speaker 1: in the pocket. When you start running around like we

2623
02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:43,400
Speaker 1: saw him doing Miami. Sooner or later, he turns into

2624
02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:48,440
Speaker 1: Alex Smith, he turns into Kirk Cousin three, he turns

2625
02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:51,960
Speaker 1: into Joe. Thiseman in the pocket, he turns into you

2626
02:05:52,120 --> 02:05:55,600
Speaker 1: name it. He gets beat up, and that's and he's

2627
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:58,120
Speaker 1: not available anymore. And he can't have that offense anymore.

2628
02:05:58,160 --> 02:06:00,880
Speaker 1: And you're looking for a backup quarterback or backup quarterback

2629
02:06:00,960 --> 02:06:03,520
Speaker 1: or whatever you can't sooner or later it catches up

2630
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:06,640
Speaker 1: to you and and you know, so we've all seen it,

2631
02:06:06,880 --> 02:06:09,600
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I agree with you, Murth. You'd like

2632
02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:11,600
Speaker 1: to see this offense be one where he stands in

2633
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 1: the pocket and he's more like Philip Rivers and have

2634
02:06:14,640 --> 02:06:16,720
Speaker 1: that option to run, have that in your back pocket.

2635
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:18,560
Speaker 1: I can run for this first down. Here's what I

2636
02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:20,520
Speaker 1: want to see. I want to see him be like

2637
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:24,280
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, where he that last play of the game

2638
02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:26,360
Speaker 1: where it's a must do or die or he just

2639
02:06:26,440 --> 02:06:28,240
Speaker 1: won't get he's not going to take a sack. He's

2640
02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:30,800
Speaker 1: pushing guys off. Either runs for a first down or

2641
02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:33,760
Speaker 1: he squares his shoulders up and heaves won sixty five

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02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:36,760
Speaker 1: yards to a guy standing by himself. That happens a

2643
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:39,160
Speaker 1: lot and that off the page kind of play is

2644
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 1: exactly what he can give you because like Cam Newton,

2645
02:06:42,080 --> 02:06:45,960
Speaker 1: like Ben Roethlisberger, when he throws it, he can throw

2646
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:48,520
Speaker 1: it to any corner of the field anytime. Hey, we

2647
02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:51,080
Speaker 1: did not have a Twitter poll today. Quite frankly, we

2648
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:54,000
Speaker 1: are gun shy after a last week's failure in the

2649
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:57,160
Speaker 1: subsequent losing streets by the Sabers and the Bills. One

2650
02:06:57,200 --> 02:06:59,880
Speaker 1: straight loss and you'll be losing. So today we want

2651
02:06:59,880 --> 02:07:02,960
Speaker 1: you to help us out. Give us a Twitter pole idea,

2652
02:07:03,280 --> 02:07:06,920
Speaker 1: give us today's question or pole eight fifty toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty. We're closing in on it. Yeah, Oh,

2654
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Speaker 1: we don't have time. Let me just read this one

2655
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Speaker 1: from the tweet sheet from Dinah. Here's uh Dinah's Twitter

2656
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Speaker 1: poll suggestion our NFL officials One doing the best they can.

2657
02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:23,000
Speaker 1: Two only in it for the paychecks, so if they

2658
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:26,840
Speaker 1: don't care if they make mistakes, Three willfully making bad

2659
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:29,960
Speaker 1: calls or four others. Look, I'm not a friend of

2660
02:07:30,080 --> 02:07:32,200
Speaker 1: NFL officials, but I think they're doing the best they can.

2661
02:07:32,240 --> 02:07:34,440
Speaker 1: I think they work hard. You've said it right, they

2662
02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 1: pay attention to detail. I do think they are overburdened

2663
02:07:38,640 --> 02:07:41,560
Speaker 1: with too many rules, too many interpretations, and too much

2664
02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:44,120
Speaker 1: change in the rules on the almost weekly basis. I

2665
02:07:44,160 --> 02:07:45,760
Speaker 1: think that's a real fact that I think it is

2666
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:48,920
Speaker 1: too that the evolution the game happens fast, sometimes old

2667
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 1: too fast for them to officiate it properly. I think

2668
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 1: the game is very complicated. We all know it's complicated,

2669
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 1: and you know, they got to stay on top of that.

2670
02:07:57,280 --> 02:07:59,560
Speaker 1: And I think, too Murph, I said this too earlier.

2671
02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:02,560
Speaker 1: I think they get caught up in the emotion of

2672
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:04,840
Speaker 1: the game. I think sometimes they think a little bit

2673
02:08:04,840 --> 02:08:06,960
Speaker 1: too much about down a distance and time on the

2674
02:08:07,040 --> 02:08:11,160
Speaker 1: clock and the consequences of making a call. I don't

2675
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:13,120
Speaker 1: want to be the deciding factor here is yeah, I

2676
02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:16,640
Speaker 1: think sometimes there. I don't think they do it like

2677
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, some sports NHL. I don't think they do

2678
02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:23,200
Speaker 1: it like those guys where they just they yeah, they

2679
02:08:23,200 --> 02:08:24,640
Speaker 1: may as well go sit on the bench and watch

2680
02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:26,360
Speaker 1: from this, you know, and just call the off sides

2681
02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:29,320
Speaker 1: from there. But I do think there are certain times

2682
02:08:29,360 --> 02:08:31,560
Speaker 1: when they feel like, you really got to make a

2683
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:33,160
Speaker 1: penalty for me to call one on this spot. And

2684
02:08:33,240 --> 02:08:35,400
Speaker 1: I think, you know, late in the game against Miami

2685
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:37,560
Speaker 1: was an instance, I told you there are certain teams.

2686
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:40,360
Speaker 1: I think that's their philosophy. They dare them to make

2687
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:43,760
Speaker 1: a call at late. Defensively, they go hard, they go aggressive,

2688
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:46,240
Speaker 1: and they just don't think the officials want to get involved.

2689
02:08:46,480 --> 02:08:49,520
Speaker 1: Here's a call from Dave in Florida. Hello, Dave, welcome

2690
02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:54,120
Speaker 1: to the show. Good you kind of took the thunder

2691
02:08:54,200 --> 02:08:56,920
Speaker 1: away there when you put up that text you about

2692
02:08:56,960 --> 02:09:00,600
Speaker 1: the referee in because that's what I'm calling about. I'm

2693
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:04,080
Speaker 1: calling about. How come would Josh Channel dropped back to

2694
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 1: a pass whatever it was ninety four twenty four from

2695
02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:10,280
Speaker 1: the Dolphins when there almost took his head off. Yeah.

2696
02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:12,040
Speaker 1: A lot of people have said that there were hits

2697
02:09:12,080 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 1: on Josh. I mean again, he's exposing himself to more

2698
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:17,400
Speaker 1: hits because he's running so often. Did you see you

2699
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:20,440
Speaker 1: watched the game? Yeah, I didn't see anything really egregious,

2700
02:09:20,480 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 1: like oh, that's a penalty. There was one high hit

2701
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:25,800
Speaker 1: around the neck area, which I thought was a little questionable,

2702
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:28,040
Speaker 1: But I don't know a lot of people said, why

2703
02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:29,520
Speaker 1: didn't they call that? Why didn't they call that? I

2704
02:09:29,560 --> 02:09:31,440
Speaker 1: didn't see it as like, yeah, seem like that hit.

2705
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 1: We just saw Bobby McCain came in. I don't know

2706
02:09:33,840 --> 02:09:36,800
Speaker 1: why that's not called a hit to the head. You

2707
02:09:36,920 --> 02:09:39,920
Speaker 1: sure it is. Why is it not? Well, I have

2708
02:09:39,960 --> 02:09:41,440
Speaker 1: to see it again, but I don't recall that. I

2709
02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:46,480
Speaker 1: don't recall coming away from that thinking that watch because

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02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:48,040
Speaker 1: he didn't hit him in the head, pulled it. He

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02:09:48,120 --> 02:09:50,240
Speaker 1: pulled his helmet and I think he pulled the side

2712
02:09:50,280 --> 02:09:52,640
Speaker 1: of his jersey and shoulder pitner. Okay, well, there you go.

2713
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:54,560
Speaker 1: That's I don't think he pulled him in the hell's

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02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 1: arm went up with it, all right, So there you go. There,

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Speaker 1: there's now even if Murph and I were having a

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Speaker 1: debate about it, then you know it was it was

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Speaker 1: too close for them to call it. I don't have

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Speaker 1: a problem, and I'm with you. Although he was in

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Speaker 1: the pocket, if you're gonna closeline him, doesn't doesn't that

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Speaker 1: seem like a yeah? Here's the thing too, You compared

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Speaker 1: Josh out to all these other quarterbacks. Quarterbacks who have

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Speaker 1: a reputation for being physical, athletic runners a lot of

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Speaker 1: times don't get that benefit of the doubt you talk to.

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Speaker 1: Look at Cam Newton. He took hit after hit after

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Speaker 1: hit because he would run and if he would slide,

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Speaker 1: guys would still hit him and stuff, and and he

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Speaker 1: you know, and one of the coaches on his staff

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Speaker 1: told me, he goes listen, Cam brings that on himself

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Speaker 1: a lot of the times. You know, he kind of

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Speaker 1: goes down late or kind of pushes it to the limit,

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Speaker 1: and then those guys get him. Then he gets up

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Speaker 1: asking for a call. They're not going to give you

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Speaker 1: that call. So I think Josh Allen is at this

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Speaker 1: point is kind of falling into that category. Got more

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Speaker 1: We made a good show today. Jeremiah Searles joined us,

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Speaker 1: a really good guy to talk to the builds. Offensive

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Speaker 1: Linement started a right guards Sunday against the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Searles, we asked him, what's it gonna take to

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Speaker 1: get this Buffalo Bills rushing offense going. Here's what he said,

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Speaker 1: it's a game of inches for a reason. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we had a couple of in the Miami game where

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Speaker 1: Shady's one step here, we're one block away here, and

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Speaker 1: it's frustrating that we're doing that, but we're just gonna

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Speaker 1: keep working at it. I mean, we've had a couple

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Speaker 1: of shift changes in the old line, getting chemistry going again,

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Speaker 1: and now we're gonna have Russell or Russell with Russell

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Speaker 1: being out, and now we got Groy in there, and

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Speaker 1: hopefully we can get John back this week. If not,

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Speaker 1: hope that can step in and continue to play well

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Speaker 1: for him. And we just got to keep working at

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Speaker 1: and keep chipping at it. And I can say this

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Speaker 1: it's not for a lack of effort or trying, because

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Speaker 1: I see these guys in practice. I see how hard

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Speaker 1: we work, and it's close. And I think that games

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Speaker 1: like the Jets games can be the norm here if

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Speaker 1: we just keep working out and keep getting better and

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Speaker 1: better with the reads, with the blocks, with everything, and

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Speaker 1: that having Josh as a running threat too is going

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Speaker 1: to really help us as well. There you go, Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: Cyril's talking about the run game. Also this past hour,

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Speaker 1: Ched Pennington, former NFL quarterback now an NFL quarterback analyst.

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Speaker 1: You talk to us about Josh Allen and what he

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Speaker 1: sees in his game the last couple of weeks, coming

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Speaker 1: into the draft and even out of the draft, I

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Speaker 1: think evaluators were excited about the physical talent, specifically the

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Speaker 1: armed talent. They knew about his athleticism. But I'll be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, the last couple of games, he has

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Speaker 1: amazed me with some of the plays that he has made.

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Speaker 1: At his size of frame bill do, some of the

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Speaker 1: things that he's doing is quite remarkable. And so I

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Speaker 1: think the physical talent is there, and I think that

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Speaker 1: the biggest challenge for him is how do you hone

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Speaker 1: that talent into being an efficient quarterback. That's a good question.

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Speaker 1: Ched Nington was great, Steve, I thought he was good. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you got some good news, uh. Luke Tasker Hamilton Tiger

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Speaker 1: Cats wide receiver is a Canadian Football League All Star

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Speaker 1: that just was now today. Congratulations, it's proud of him.

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Speaker 1: There's a good season. They've got beat in the conference finals.

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Speaker 1: But and they just got word that June Jones, who

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Speaker 1: was the head coach, is now going to move to

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator slot. And really and Orlando's going to

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Speaker 1: move into the head coaching someone who was I can't

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Speaker 1: he told me, and I can't remembly. He was an

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Speaker 1: assistant coach this last year and as young and up

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Speaker 1: and coming coach, I think June Jones is ready to

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Speaker 1: take a little more of a back seat and just

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Speaker 1: kind of relaxed. Will bit and be the not relaxed,

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Speaker 1: but be the offensive coordinator. So he's gonna stay on

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Speaker 1: the staff. Excellent. Yeah, we got a good show tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It's being setting up that way. Peter King usually Tuesdays,

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Speaker 1: will be with us tomorrow at twelve thirty. I hope

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Speaker 1: to hear from and I Hobey at one o'clock Firm

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Speaker 1: and Thomas at noon Chris Brown. A report led from

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Speaker 1: practice Auto that coming up on tomorrow show. Thanks to

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Speaker 1: our production assistant George Blast, Jeff Colton and Thomas Honalder,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Rude, j J. Tarito, Kevin Cargis, James Robold and

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Speaker 1: our producer Jay Harry. You're gonna be back tomorrow, right,

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Speaker 1: you're ready to go show. This was a good shown.

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Speaker 1: Have a Twitter pole without a Twitter pole, you got

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Speaker 1: without a safety net? Was here tomorrow at noon one

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