1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:26,795 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Trump wants, 2 00:00:26,915 --> 00:00:30,315 Speaker 1: and his Republican Whorehouse of Representatives could give him as 3 00:00:30,355 --> 00:00:34,155 Speaker 1: early as today, more likely tomorrow, a law letting him 4 00:00:34,235 --> 00:00:38,035 Speaker 1: not only ignore the courts and their injunctions and their 5 00:00:38,075 --> 00:00:44,155 Speaker 1: temporary restraining orders, but immunizing himself and his minions from 6 00:00:44,195 --> 00:00:50,875 Speaker 1: even being subject to contempt of court citations. The law 7 00:00:51,275 --> 00:00:54,235 Speaker 1: cutting the legs off every judge in this country, including 8 00:00:54,275 --> 00:00:57,475 Speaker 1: all of them on the Supreme Court, is sitting deep 9 00:00:57,595 --> 00:01:01,195 Speaker 1: in the maga multi trillion dollar budget bill, curled up 10 00:01:01,275 --> 00:01:05,355 Speaker 1: like a snake, ready to attack and poison the judiciary 11 00:01:05,595 --> 00:01:11,555 Speaker 1: at Trump's sole discretion. Any court issuing a tro against 12 00:01:11,635 --> 00:01:15,875 Speaker 1: Trump or his pack of wolves with titles decimating safety 13 00:01:15,915 --> 00:01:19,795 Speaker 1: regulations or firing tens of thousands of essential government employees, 14 00:01:19,995 --> 00:01:24,195 Speaker 1: Any court issuing an injunction against Trump kidnapping and renditioning 15 00:01:24,235 --> 00:01:28,715 Speaker 1: people off our streets. Any court doing anything Trump doesn't like, 16 00:01:29,355 --> 00:01:32,795 Speaker 1: could rule whatever it likes, But when it came to 17 00:01:32,875 --> 00:01:37,155 Speaker 1: the only teeth, such rulings have the threat of actually 18 00:01:37,275 --> 00:01:41,835 Speaker 1: putting somebody who ignores those rulings in jail for contempt, 19 00:01:42,075 --> 00:01:47,075 Speaker 1: that threat would be gone. The gist of this is 20 00:01:47,555 --> 00:01:55,235 Speaker 1: the Trumpists have found another loophole. Loopholes are Trump's whole life. 21 00:01:55,315 --> 00:01:58,795 Speaker 1: He probably thinks he has found a loophole around his 22 00:01:58,995 --> 00:02:04,555 Speaker 1: own death. This loophole is based on a provision that's 23 00:02:04,715 --> 00:02:06,715 Speaker 1: as if you are suing and trying to get a 24 00:02:06,715 --> 00:02:10,235 Speaker 1: restraining order or an injunction against the government, you have 25 00:02:10,315 --> 00:02:14,035 Speaker 1: to deposit the amount of money that the restraining order 26 00:02:14,155 --> 00:02:19,235 Speaker 1: or injunction could cost or hurt the government a bond. 27 00:02:20,955 --> 00:02:25,675 Speaker 1: The judge almost always sets that bond at zero dollars, 28 00:02:26,555 --> 00:02:29,715 Speaker 1: but this time bomb in this House bill would make 29 00:02:29,835 --> 00:02:34,795 Speaker 1: any injunction where the bond is set at zero dollars unenforceable. 30 00:02:35,715 --> 00:02:39,595 Speaker 1: You want a restraining order against Trump renditions, the judge 31 00:02:39,635 --> 00:02:43,795 Speaker 1: better set the bond at eleven dy billion dollars ACLU 32 00:02:44,035 --> 00:02:47,835 Speaker 1: or Immigration Rights Campaign, and you better have that eleveny 33 00:02:47,915 --> 00:02:53,835 Speaker 1: billion dollars. As usual with Trump, it is blackmail, regular blackmail, 34 00:02:53,915 --> 00:02:59,475 Speaker 1: or like this, economic blackmail. And it doesn't really matter 35 00:02:59,475 --> 00:03:02,355 Speaker 1: if the Senate shoots this down, even if the House 36 00:03:02,395 --> 00:03:05,395 Speaker 1: passes it or a court shoots this down, because once 37 00:03:05,435 --> 00:03:09,555 Speaker 1: it passes the House, once Trump can say Congress approve this, 38 00:03:10,475 --> 00:03:13,635 Speaker 1: he can ignore the rest even if the Senate strikes 39 00:03:13,635 --> 00:03:15,995 Speaker 1: the provision from its version of the budget bill, even 40 00:03:16,035 --> 00:03:19,315 Speaker 1: if a court says it's unconstitutional, even if the Supreme 41 00:03:19,435 --> 00:03:23,195 Speaker 1: Court says it's unconstitutional, all the Republicans have to do 42 00:03:23,315 --> 00:03:26,115 Speaker 1: is pass it in the House, and ninety nine percent 43 00:03:26,155 --> 00:03:29,035 Speaker 1: of the country will never know that the last line 44 00:03:29,075 --> 00:03:32,395 Speaker 1: of our defense against a dictatorship had just been erased. 45 00:03:32,995 --> 00:03:37,275 Speaker 1: And the other one percent would applaud because you know 46 00:03:38,195 --> 00:03:42,195 Speaker 1: what Trump would do. He would point in his mindless, manipulative, 47 00:03:42,235 --> 00:03:46,035 Speaker 1: snake oil salesman's way to the big, beautiful bill and 48 00:03:46,155 --> 00:03:48,875 Speaker 1: the will of the people and the action of the House, 49 00:03:49,075 --> 00:03:53,755 Speaker 1: and insists that is all the approval he needs. The Senate. 50 00:03:53,795 --> 00:03:57,515 Speaker 1: Trump would say, who cares? The judges? Trump would say, 51 00:03:57,555 --> 00:04:01,035 Speaker 1: who cares the Supreme Court? Trump would say, of course, 52 00:04:01,075 --> 00:04:03,595 Speaker 1: that's what the Supreme Court would do. It's the deep 53 00:04:03,675 --> 00:04:11,675 Speaker 1: state protecting itself against the will of the people. It 54 00:04:11,715 --> 00:04:15,275 Speaker 1: would be a law to forbid, in essence contempt charges 55 00:04:15,315 --> 00:04:19,595 Speaker 1: against Trump government agents, or Trump whores, or Trump himself 56 00:04:19,795 --> 00:04:24,515 Speaker 1: for ignoring the courts. Is it constitutional? They don't care. 57 00:04:26,795 --> 00:04:30,435 Speaker 1: They don't care. Now they are preparing for a public 58 00:04:30,595 --> 00:04:34,195 Speaker 1: Are you with us or are you against us about 59 00:04:34,235 --> 00:04:39,435 Speaker 1: the courts in which they seek vigilante influence, pressure or 60 00:04:39,515 --> 00:04:44,315 Speaker 1: violence over the judiciary. Hell, Trump already threw the Conservatives 61 00:04:44,315 --> 00:04:46,995 Speaker 1: on the Court, including Roberts and the three justices he 62 00:04:47,035 --> 00:04:52,035 Speaker 1: appointed overboard. He doesn't care. The only hope to slow 63 00:04:52,075 --> 00:04:54,875 Speaker 1: this down is for it to be exposed before the 64 00:04:54,875 --> 00:04:58,275 Speaker 1: House vote and pressure to mount on enough Republicans from 65 00:04:58,355 --> 00:05:02,915 Speaker 1: an increasingly horrified Republican voting base, who, however wrong they 66 00:05:02,955 --> 00:05:08,155 Speaker 1: are about what the constitutions says, still believes the Constitution 67 00:05:08,315 --> 00:05:12,115 Speaker 1: matters more than Trump does. There ain't many of them, 68 00:05:12,115 --> 00:05:16,315 Speaker 1: but if they fall by the wayside, it's over. And 69 00:05:16,435 --> 00:05:19,195 Speaker 1: on the ground in the courts they hope to neuter 70 00:05:19,315 --> 00:05:23,115 Speaker 1: and neutralize, the Trump Gestapo is already behaving as if 71 00:05:23,155 --> 00:05:27,595 Speaker 1: it is over. They have escalated the contempt and the 72 00:05:27,635 --> 00:05:31,515 Speaker 1: midnight renditions and the new cynical evil forms of the 73 00:05:31,515 --> 00:05:35,675 Speaker 1: Stephen Miller ethnic cleansing. They are not only ignoring a 74 00:05:35,755 --> 00:05:39,035 Speaker 1: swath of judicial orders on the table right now against 75 00:05:39,115 --> 00:05:42,435 Speaker 1: further renditioning flights. Now it's flights to Burma and South 76 00:05:42,475 --> 00:05:45,955 Speaker 1: Sudan or even Vietnam. But like Hitler, they have decided 77 00:05:45,995 --> 00:05:50,395 Speaker 1: they are not forcing enough victims into their deadly machinery 78 00:05:50,795 --> 00:05:56,235 Speaker 1: fast enough. Since Tuesday, ICE has reportedly been going to 79 00:05:56,355 --> 00:06:00,875 Speaker 1: immigration courts around this country and trying to get active 80 00:06:00,915 --> 00:06:05,155 Speaker 1: immigration cases against people, those pending for lessless than two 81 00:06:05,235 --> 00:06:15,315 Speaker 1: years dismissed. Dismissed for humanitarian reasons, for crowded court reasons, 82 00:06:15,675 --> 00:06:18,035 Speaker 1: to give these people more time to seek due process. 83 00:06:18,155 --> 00:06:21,755 Speaker 1: Know the exact opposite, so that with the old charges 84 00:06:21,835 --> 00:06:26,995 Speaker 1: against them dismissed, ICE can now immediately re arrest those 85 00:06:27,115 --> 00:06:34,875 Speaker 1: same people and shove them into expedited removal. No more 86 00:06:34,955 --> 00:06:39,635 Speaker 1: court hearings for them, no more judges for them. You 87 00:06:40,315 --> 00:06:45,755 Speaker 1: show up for your court date in good faith seeking 88 00:06:45,835 --> 00:06:50,595 Speaker 1: to become a citizen of this country, legally obeying the law, 89 00:06:51,915 --> 00:06:54,715 Speaker 1: only to find out that your case has now been dismissed, 90 00:06:54,915 --> 00:06:59,795 Speaker 1: and before you can leave, you are instead detained. The 91 00:06:59,875 --> 00:07:03,475 Speaker 1: lawyer you came with cannot see you. The hearing you 92 00:07:03,515 --> 00:07:06,955 Speaker 1: were at is not succeeded by a different hearing. All 93 00:07:06,995 --> 00:07:08,875 Speaker 1: you get is a seat on a plane headed for 94 00:07:08,915 --> 00:07:11,115 Speaker 1: a country literally in the middle of a civil war 95 00:07:11,235 --> 00:07:16,595 Speaker 1: like South Sudan or Burma or even Libya, taking people 96 00:07:16,595 --> 00:07:20,075 Speaker 1: who thought they were going in and doing the right thing, 97 00:07:20,835 --> 00:07:23,835 Speaker 1: and sending them to hell for doing the right thing. 98 00:07:26,035 --> 00:07:28,755 Speaker 1: And the best the judges in these cases are doing 99 00:07:28,835 --> 00:07:31,875 Speaker 1: is saying that when those flights get there, the flights 100 00:07:31,915 --> 00:07:35,155 Speaker 1: the judges ordered could not take off. The flights the 101 00:07:35,235 --> 00:07:38,195 Speaker 1: judges ordered could not contain anybody who hadn't had at 102 00:07:38,275 --> 00:07:40,755 Speaker 1: least three weeks to fight back legally, that the Trump 103 00:07:40,755 --> 00:07:44,715 Speaker 1: administration must not turn over its kidnap victims to local 104 00:07:44,755 --> 00:07:48,795 Speaker 1: authorities like they did poor Kilmar Abrago. Garcia was still 105 00:07:48,835 --> 00:07:53,315 Speaker 1: in limbo in l Salvador. From Boston. The Federal District 106 00:07:53,395 --> 00:07:55,995 Speaker 1: Judge Brian Murphy said he would not order the flights 107 00:07:56,395 --> 00:07:59,435 Speaker 1: that went off despite his orders turned around, but that 108 00:07:59,475 --> 00:08:04,515 Speaker 1: the American government would have to maintain control possession of 109 00:08:04,515 --> 00:08:07,675 Speaker 1: the people on those flights and not hand them over 110 00:08:08,235 --> 00:08:11,475 Speaker 1: to the El Salvador dictator, and not hand them over 111 00:08:11,515 --> 00:08:16,075 Speaker 1: to the Burmese tyrants, and not hand them over to 112 00:08:16,155 --> 00:08:20,915 Speaker 1: whoever is in charge this week in South Sudan, a 113 00:08:20,995 --> 00:08:23,675 Speaker 1: judge in Boston thinks he can control what Trump does 114 00:08:23,715 --> 00:08:28,755 Speaker 1: to unpopular foreign born Americans in South Sudan, judges haven't 115 00:08:28,795 --> 00:08:32,435 Speaker 1: been able to control what Trump does to people in Texas, 116 00:08:34,155 --> 00:08:36,675 Speaker 1: Judge Murphy told the court late Tuesday, night that everybody 117 00:08:36,675 --> 00:08:38,875 Speaker 1: who ignores his order, from the officials who ordered the 118 00:08:38,915 --> 00:08:41,675 Speaker 1: flights in the first place to the officers who actually 119 00:08:41,715 --> 00:08:46,595 Speaker 1: piloted the planes could face criminal sanctions. Quoting based on 120 00:08:46,635 --> 00:08:48,275 Speaker 1: what I have been told, this seems like it may 121 00:08:48,275 --> 00:08:52,235 Speaker 1: be contempt. No kidding. Murphy then came back yesterday and 122 00:08:52,235 --> 00:08:55,115 Speaker 1: said the Trump gang had violated the court order. But 123 00:08:55,155 --> 00:08:57,235 Speaker 1: he has yet to say anything about what the hell 124 00:08:57,275 --> 00:08:59,435 Speaker 1: he's going to do about it. But I would offer 125 00:08:59,515 --> 00:09:05,395 Speaker 1: one word of advice to Judge Murphy. Hurry circles back 126 00:09:05,435 --> 00:09:08,675 Speaker 1: to that law hidden inside the House of Republican prostitution 127 00:09:08,835 --> 00:09:14,155 Speaker 1: budget bill. Right now, this may still be contempt. Judge Murphy, 128 00:09:14,795 --> 00:09:17,835 Speaker 1: check back with us next week, when it may be 129 00:09:18,075 --> 00:09:26,115 Speaker 1: unenforceable contempt or one billion dollars contempt, or at best 130 00:09:26,635 --> 00:09:30,515 Speaker 1: Trump would be able to claim it is unenforceable contempt 131 00:09:30,515 --> 00:09:33,795 Speaker 1: and that he has triumphed over you deep state communists 132 00:09:34,075 --> 00:09:37,675 Speaker 1: who are thwarting his mandate to privatize the country that 133 00:09:37,755 --> 00:09:40,115 Speaker 1: he claims he got with forty nine point eight percent 134 00:09:40,155 --> 00:09:44,675 Speaker 1: of the vote last November. Goddamn it, this is an 135 00:09:44,675 --> 00:09:48,075 Speaker 1: extinction level event for the backbone of American justice, the courts, 136 00:09:48,275 --> 00:09:52,075 Speaker 1: the law, the oversight, the pre eminence and inviolability of 137 00:09:52,115 --> 00:09:56,035 Speaker 1: the Constitution, and since the Republicans in the House are 138 00:09:56,075 --> 00:09:59,995 Speaker 1: a lost cause, they are the undead, our best hope 139 00:10:00,115 --> 00:10:04,435 Speaker 1: is garlic and holy water. The judges had damn well 140 00:10:04,435 --> 00:10:06,675 Speaker 1: bet act and act now, because it is also an 141 00:10:06,675 --> 00:10:11,795 Speaker 1: extension level event for them. The Trump propaganda hate machine 142 00:10:12,395 --> 00:10:15,475 Speaker 1: is about to make them household names within the week, 143 00:10:15,755 --> 00:10:18,795 Speaker 1: no matter what happens to the provision erasing contempt of 144 00:10:18,875 --> 00:10:22,395 Speaker 1: court enforcement. And as we have seen, the weakest part 145 00:10:22,395 --> 00:10:26,635 Speaker 1: of our guardrails have been judges personally threatened by Trump. 146 00:10:29,795 --> 00:10:32,435 Speaker 1: Like all of us, the judges have a choice. Let 147 00:10:32,515 --> 00:10:37,955 Speaker 1: themselves become targets and let the law they have devoted 148 00:10:37,955 --> 00:10:41,955 Speaker 1: their lives to become as optional and as impotent and 149 00:10:41,995 --> 00:10:45,595 Speaker 1: as quaint as the tag on the mattress that says 150 00:10:45,715 --> 00:10:50,355 Speaker 1: do not remove this tag. They damn well better put 151 00:10:50,395 --> 00:10:53,595 Speaker 1: Trump officials, the higher up the better, in jail, even 152 00:10:53,595 --> 00:10:57,675 Speaker 1: if only for a few hours today, while they still can. 153 00:11:00,315 --> 00:11:03,875 Speaker 1: In the self absorbed amorl America of the twenty first century. 154 00:11:03,915 --> 00:11:07,315 Speaker 1: It's not just that justice depends on jailing Trump's army 155 00:11:07,355 --> 00:11:11,595 Speaker 1: of the undead for however long, whenever, and wherever you can. 156 00:11:12,915 --> 00:11:15,515 Speaker 1: But the judges and the Supreme Court justices too have 157 00:11:15,595 --> 00:11:18,675 Speaker 1: to realize that maybe something even bigger is at stake 158 00:11:18,915 --> 00:11:26,075 Speaker 1: their own asses. Jail them, Jail everybody in the Trump administration. 159 00:11:26,235 --> 00:11:30,835 Speaker 1: You can now for contempt of court while there still 160 00:11:30,995 --> 00:12:03,675 Speaker 1: is contempt of court, and start with the woman whose 161 00:12:03,715 --> 00:12:10,835 Speaker 1: department this all emanates from, this idiotic, plasticized witch, Christy Nome, 162 00:12:11,755 --> 00:12:15,675 Speaker 1: the Secretary of Homeland Security, the secretary of making sure 163 00:12:15,755 --> 00:12:18,675 Speaker 1: you don't have any security in your home, never mind 164 00:12:18,715 --> 00:12:23,595 Speaker 1: your homeland. When I say people like her are unqualified 165 00:12:23,595 --> 00:12:26,435 Speaker 1: to hold any public office, including obviously in her case, 166 00:12:26,715 --> 00:12:33,315 Speaker 1: dog catcher, I mean it literally, and she's proved it. Everybody, 167 00:12:33,355 --> 00:12:35,155 Speaker 1: I think by now has heard her being asked by 168 00:12:35,155 --> 00:12:39,555 Speaker 1: Senator Maggie Hassen what habeas corpus is, and Gnome not 169 00:12:39,635 --> 00:12:43,195 Speaker 1: just getting it wrong, but revealing the startling breadth of 170 00:12:43,195 --> 00:12:49,235 Speaker 1: her own stupidity and her brainwashing and the infectiousness of 171 00:12:49,395 --> 00:12:55,115 Speaker 1: Maga disease. Habeas corpus a fundamental right to protect a 172 00:12:55,155 --> 00:12:59,915 Speaker 1: citizen against the King or the President, or the Parliament, 173 00:13:00,315 --> 00:13:05,355 Speaker 1: or the police, or the Soviet or the chairman. The 174 00:13:05,355 --> 00:13:10,675 Speaker 1: fundamental right of ordinary people has been explained to her 175 00:13:10,715 --> 00:13:16,635 Speaker 1: tiny malfunctioning little brain as a weapon, not dating back 176 00:13:16,715 --> 00:13:19,835 Speaker 1: to the Magna Carta, but as a weapon Trump can 177 00:13:20,035 --> 00:13:26,355 Speaker 1: use to disappear those very same ordinary people it was 178 00:13:26,395 --> 00:13:34,515 Speaker 1: written to protect. She has it entirely wrong. And this 179 00:13:34,675 --> 00:13:38,755 Speaker 1: answer is only, as it turned out, the second most 180 00:13:39,035 --> 00:13:43,515 Speaker 1: horrifying one that she gave on the subject of habeas corpus. 181 00:13:43,835 --> 00:13:45,795 Speaker 1: This is the warm. 182 00:13:45,675 --> 00:13:50,755 Speaker 2: Up the secretary, No, what is habeas corpus? Well, habeas 183 00:13:50,755 --> 00:13:54,475 Speaker 2: corpus is a constitutional right that the president has to 184 00:13:54,555 --> 00:13:57,275 Speaker 2: be able to remove people from this country. Let's spend 185 00:13:57,275 --> 00:14:00,955 Speaker 2: their right. Let me let me stop, and corpus excuse me. 186 00:14:01,035 --> 00:14:06,715 Speaker 2: That's that's incorrect, Presidents, corpus excuse Habeas corpus is the 187 00:14:06,795 --> 00:14:10,835 Speaker 2: legal principle that requires that the government provide a public 188 00:14:10,915 --> 00:14:13,595 Speaker 2: reason for detaining and imprisoning people. 189 00:14:13,915 --> 00:14:16,875 Speaker 1: And as I said, that was the smarter of her responses, 190 00:14:17,995 --> 00:14:22,035 Speaker 1: because the next one to New Jersey Senator Andy Kim 191 00:14:22,355 --> 00:14:25,195 Speaker 1: indicated that not only does she not know what habeas 192 00:14:25,235 --> 00:14:28,635 Speaker 1: corpus means, even after it was just explained to her, 193 00:14:29,075 --> 00:14:33,315 Speaker 1: but she doesn't know what the words suspend means when 194 00:14:33,355 --> 00:14:37,755 Speaker 1: it is used in the sentence suspend habeas corpus. Listen 195 00:14:37,795 --> 00:14:45,355 Speaker 1: to this and tell me this idiot is not undeniably 196 00:14:46,955 --> 00:14:53,235 Speaker 1: convinced that the word suspend is a synonym for the 197 00:14:53,275 --> 00:15:02,195 Speaker 1: words evoke, invoke, enforce, and utilize. She thinks to suspend 198 00:15:02,315 --> 00:15:06,595 Speaker 1: habeas corpus means to you use habeas corpus to enact 199 00:15:06,995 --> 00:15:10,715 Speaker 1: habeas corpus. She doesn't think it means no. She thinks 200 00:15:10,755 --> 00:15:13,115 Speaker 1: it means yes, habeas corpus. 201 00:15:13,115 --> 00:15:15,275 Speaker 3: Can you confirm to us that you understand that any 202 00:15:15,315 --> 00:15:18,595 Speaker 3: suspension of habeas corpus requires an act of Congress? 203 00:15:20,035 --> 00:15:25,995 Speaker 2: President Lincoln executed habeas corpus in the past with retroactive 204 00:15:26,475 --> 00:15:29,715 Speaker 2: action by Congress. I believe that any president that was 205 00:15:29,755 --> 00:15:31,395 Speaker 2: able to do that in the past, it should be 206 00:15:31,435 --> 00:15:32,795 Speaker 2: afforded to our current day president. 207 00:15:32,835 --> 00:15:35,915 Speaker 3: How many times has habeas corpus been suspended in our cost. 208 00:15:35,755 --> 00:15:38,995 Speaker 1: Once that I know of, four times. I'm not certain if. 209 00:15:38,915 --> 00:15:41,635 Speaker 3: Those the instance that you were referring to was one 210 00:15:41,675 --> 00:15:45,115 Speaker 3: where the courts subsequently show that Congress is the one 211 00:15:45,155 --> 00:15:47,315 Speaker 3: that has the ability. Do you know what section of 212 00:15:47,355 --> 00:15:50,915 Speaker 3: the Constitution the suspension clause of habeas corpus does not? 213 00:15:51,755 --> 00:15:53,355 Speaker 3: Do you know which article it is in? 214 00:15:54,355 --> 00:15:54,475 Speaker 4: No? 215 00:15:54,555 --> 00:15:59,075 Speaker 1: I do not, sir, Christy, check your plastic surgeon. I 216 00:15:59,115 --> 00:16:02,675 Speaker 1: think they're putting the boatox right in your brain. This 217 00:16:02,915 --> 00:16:09,195 Speaker 1: was after her education from Senator and the seventh grade 218 00:16:09,235 --> 00:16:13,395 Speaker 1: social studies teacher. Christy Nome never had Maggie Hassen. After 219 00:16:13,475 --> 00:16:16,195 Speaker 1: Maggie Hassen explained to her what habeas corpus was, and 220 00:16:16,275 --> 00:16:18,715 Speaker 1: she still thinks it's something Trump can wield like an 221 00:16:18,715 --> 00:16:21,835 Speaker 1: executioner's axe. And she still somehow thinks the word suspend 222 00:16:21,955 --> 00:16:28,555 Speaker 1: means employ She doesn't know what that word means. She 223 00:16:28,635 --> 00:16:30,955 Speaker 1: doesn't know what habeas corpus is. She doesn't know the 224 00:16:30,995 --> 00:16:34,395 Speaker 1: most superficial details of the outline of the Constitution of 225 00:16:34,395 --> 00:16:37,755 Speaker 1: the United States of America. If passing a six question 226 00:16:37,915 --> 00:16:41,595 Speaker 1: exam that the worst student would ace in the worst 227 00:16:41,635 --> 00:16:44,155 Speaker 1: Civics class in the worst high school in this country, 228 00:16:44,395 --> 00:16:47,035 Speaker 1: if that were the requirement before we could put anybody 229 00:16:47,035 --> 00:16:50,675 Speaker 1: on those human trafficking flights of hers, Gnome would go 230 00:16:50,795 --> 00:16:54,275 Speaker 1: zero for six and she would have just won an 231 00:16:54,275 --> 00:16:59,115 Speaker 1: all expenses paid trip to South Sudan, and god knows 232 00:16:59,155 --> 00:17:02,755 Speaker 1: where she'd get her next botox and lip fattening injections 233 00:17:02,755 --> 00:17:09,795 Speaker 1: from in goddamn South Sudan. This is what Trump is 234 00:17:09,835 --> 00:17:16,995 Speaker 1: doing instead of stuff we need done, like FEMA to Missouri. 235 00:17:18,595 --> 00:17:21,915 Speaker 1: Oh and there is a separate bill besides the killoff 236 00:17:21,915 --> 00:17:26,235 Speaker 1: the Judiciary bill that raises the stakes further. After Steven 237 00:17:26,275 --> 00:17:28,595 Speaker 1: Miller gets as many people out of this country illegally 238 00:17:28,635 --> 00:17:32,155 Speaker 1: and inhumanely, but with each of them leaving behind a 239 00:17:32,275 --> 00:17:35,515 Speaker 1: part of a precedent that Miller and Trump can then exploit. 240 00:17:36,355 --> 00:17:40,075 Speaker 1: They will build higher the legal wall behind them to 241 00:17:40,195 --> 00:17:43,395 Speaker 1: prevent them from getting back in. If you are renditioned 242 00:17:43,835 --> 00:17:46,595 Speaker 1: and somehow come back to this country, they will now 243 00:17:46,715 --> 00:17:50,035 Speaker 1: charge you with illegal re entry. If you are found 244 00:17:50,075 --> 00:17:53,875 Speaker 1: guilty and sentenced to a year in jail for illegal reentry, 245 00:17:55,435 --> 00:17:59,235 Speaker 1: not an unlikely outcome. A new proviso would kick in. 246 00:17:59,515 --> 00:18:02,595 Speaker 1: Anybody convicted of illegal re entry who is then also 247 00:18:02,675 --> 00:18:05,795 Speaker 1: convicted of any crime punishable a year or more in 248 00:18:05,835 --> 00:18:11,595 Speaker 1: prison could be sentenced to life in prison. But all 249 00:18:11,675 --> 00:18:14,355 Speaker 1: re entry would be repunishable by a year or more 250 00:18:14,395 --> 00:18:18,075 Speaker 1: in prison, and all those sentences of just a year 251 00:18:18,195 --> 00:18:22,035 Speaker 1: or more in prison would immediately be turned into life 252 00:18:22,075 --> 00:18:25,435 Speaker 1: in prison. It's catch twenty two. How long is your 253 00:18:25,475 --> 00:18:28,115 Speaker 1: jail term? One year? Ah, But anybody who sentenced to 254 00:18:28,195 --> 00:18:31,795 Speaker 1: jail for one year gets life. So what is now 255 00:18:31,795 --> 00:18:34,995 Speaker 1: a one year crime instantly and automatically becomes life in jail. 256 00:18:38,915 --> 00:18:43,315 Speaker 1: Like all evil people, they have thought this through. I 257 00:18:43,355 --> 00:18:50,155 Speaker 1: suspect Stephen Miller thinks it through and masturbates afterwards. This 258 00:18:50,475 --> 00:18:55,075 Speaker 1: is what Trump is doing and now investigating Andrew Cuomo 259 00:18:55,235 --> 00:18:57,515 Speaker 1: as he runs for mayor of New York to see 260 00:18:57,515 --> 00:19:00,275 Speaker 1: if he lined to Congress when he testified about COVID 261 00:19:00,355 --> 00:19:05,155 Speaker 1: as governor. I don't like Andrew Cuomo ordinarily be very 262 00:19:05,155 --> 00:19:08,435 Speaker 1: pleased by this, except it's not for what you think 263 00:19:08,475 --> 00:19:12,115 Speaker 1: it's for. There is no mystery in fact as to 264 00:19:12,155 --> 00:19:15,635 Speaker 1: why they would be investigating Andrew Cuomo. Trump had foolishly 265 00:19:15,635 --> 00:19:18,355 Speaker 1: bet on Eric Adams being re elected as Mayor of 266 00:19:18,395 --> 00:19:21,795 Speaker 1: New York, so they dropped the corruption charges against Eric 267 00:19:21,835 --> 00:19:24,555 Speaker 1: Adams and instead they hung them over him like the 268 00:19:24,595 --> 00:19:28,235 Speaker 1: sort of Damocles, so they don't even have to blackmail 269 00:19:28,315 --> 00:19:30,995 Speaker 1: him to get whatever they want from him to do 270 00:19:31,115 --> 00:19:32,675 Speaker 1: to sell out the city of New York and the 271 00:19:32,715 --> 00:19:38,435 Speaker 1: Democratic supermajority here. But it is evident now Eric Adams 272 00:19:38,515 --> 00:19:40,875 Speaker 1: is going to get destroyed in this election running for 273 00:19:40,955 --> 00:19:43,955 Speaker 1: office again as an independent if he gets double digits. 274 00:19:43,955 --> 00:19:47,195 Speaker 1: That would be a major upset victory for him. If 275 00:19:47,195 --> 00:19:54,195 Speaker 1: he only finishes last, it's a moral victory. So that 276 00:19:54,355 --> 00:19:57,395 Speaker 1: means they need a new corrupt candidate to back and 277 00:19:57,475 --> 00:20:02,915 Speaker 1: then blackmail, and thus they are investigating, not charging, investigating 278 00:20:02,995 --> 00:20:07,515 Speaker 1: the new front runner among the democ Kratz Cuomo, because 279 00:20:07,555 --> 00:20:10,235 Speaker 1: they already know he won't wait to be told what 280 00:20:10,315 --> 00:20:12,315 Speaker 1: to do when they need him to sell out the city, 281 00:20:12,515 --> 00:20:18,235 Speaker 1: the state, the country. This is what Trump is doing, 282 00:20:19,035 --> 00:20:21,995 Speaker 1: as well as prosecuting a New Jersey congresswoman on phony 283 00:20:22,075 --> 00:20:26,755 Speaker 1: charges of assault against the Ice brown shirts, who are 284 00:20:26,795 --> 00:20:29,675 Speaker 1: turning out to be soft as church music and as 285 00:20:29,715 --> 00:20:35,795 Speaker 1: easily sidelined as baseball pitchers. They just happened to be 286 00:20:35,835 --> 00:20:39,755 Speaker 1: prosecuting her via the new interim US attorney for New Jersey, 287 00:20:40,475 --> 00:20:44,475 Speaker 1: noted Trump parking lot legal scholar Alina Haba, who just 288 00:20:44,515 --> 00:20:48,195 Speaker 1: two months ago revealed her real reason for accepting that job. Quote, 289 00:20:48,275 --> 00:20:50,835 Speaker 1: we could turn New Jersey red, and I think New 290 00:20:50,915 --> 00:20:54,155 Speaker 1: Jersey is absolutely close to getting there, So hopefully while 291 00:20:54,195 --> 00:21:00,155 Speaker 1: I'm there, I can help that cause unquote. This is 292 00:21:00,435 --> 00:21:07,875 Speaker 1: a US attorney campaigning by dirtying up a Democratic congresswoman 293 00:21:07,915 --> 00:21:12,195 Speaker 1: who did nothing but use her right to inspect a 294 00:21:12,235 --> 00:21:16,915 Speaker 1: government facility, and then Haba can run, probably run for 295 00:21:16,955 --> 00:21:20,635 Speaker 1: something herself on a campaign of democratic violence against those 296 00:21:20,755 --> 00:21:29,115 Speaker 1: nice police and ice storm troopers will apparently sustain bone 297 00:21:29,275 --> 00:21:34,035 Speaker 1: damage if you look at them. This is what Trump 298 00:21:34,195 --> 00:21:37,115 Speaker 1: is doing, instead of sending FEMA to Missouri, instead of 299 00:21:37,155 --> 00:21:40,355 Speaker 1: obeying the courts, instead of with one of our four 300 00:21:40,515 --> 00:21:43,715 Speaker 1: living ex presidents now battling cancer, with Congress and Jerry 301 00:21:43,715 --> 00:21:47,475 Speaker 1: Connolly dying of cancer yesterday of the esophagus months after 302 00:21:47,515 --> 00:21:52,755 Speaker 1: the diagnosis, at least not defunding and destroying cancer research 303 00:21:53,035 --> 00:21:56,275 Speaker 1: during the time. The effectiveness of treatment and the survivability 304 00:21:56,275 --> 00:21:58,555 Speaker 1: of the diseases have not only never been higher, but 305 00:21:58,675 --> 00:22:01,515 Speaker 1: have never been improving and escalating faster than they have 306 00:22:01,555 --> 00:22:04,275 Speaker 1: been in the last ten years. God damned Trump and 307 00:22:04,355 --> 00:22:18,315 Speaker 1: all of them to hell as soon as possible. Why 308 00:22:18,435 --> 00:22:21,315 Speaker 1: you have heard so little of this? There are two 309 00:22:21,915 --> 00:22:28,035 Speaker 1: bits of good journalistic news. CBS news chief quit over 310 00:22:28,035 --> 00:22:30,995 Speaker 1: the looming settlement with Trump because he sued after CBS 311 00:22:31,035 --> 00:22:33,835 Speaker 1: did something that A wasn't in the least bit wrong. 312 00:22:34,395 --> 00:22:37,115 Speaker 1: B didn't in the least bit have anything to do 313 00:22:37,155 --> 00:22:40,715 Speaker 1: with Trump. And see Trump claims damaged his election chances 314 00:22:40,835 --> 00:22:44,355 Speaker 1: in an election he claims he won in a landslide. 315 00:22:44,755 --> 00:22:49,595 Speaker 1: More importantly, three American senators are calling the paramount CBS 316 00:22:49,675 --> 00:22:55,515 Speaker 1: settlement with Trump what it actually is, a legalized bribe. 317 00:22:55,755 --> 00:22:59,395 Speaker 1: Ron Wyden, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders have warned Sherry 318 00:22:59,395 --> 00:23:03,395 Speaker 1: Redstone of the reality she seems to have forgotten. As 319 00:23:03,395 --> 00:23:07,755 Speaker 1: Oliver Darcy put it in Status that if Paramount settles 320 00:23:07,795 --> 00:23:11,235 Speaker 1: Trump's twenty billion dollar lawsuit over a sixty minute segment 321 00:23:11,275 --> 00:23:14,435 Speaker 1: to win favor with the Trump administration, it could constitute 322 00:23:15,595 --> 00:23:22,515 Speaker 1: criminal bribery, something that I'm That's Oliver Darcy's I'm told 323 00:23:23,515 --> 00:23:26,515 Speaker 1: has also been caused for concern among the company's three 324 00:23:26,515 --> 00:23:31,315 Speaker 1: co chief executives. Well, I'm concerned that could be my money. 325 00:23:31,995 --> 00:23:35,155 Speaker 1: The senator's reminded Paramount that it is illegal to quote 326 00:23:35,195 --> 00:23:38,955 Speaker 1: corruptly give anything of value in this case, you know, 327 00:23:39,795 --> 00:23:43,675 Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars in exchange for government of action, 328 00:23:44,595 --> 00:23:48,555 Speaker 1: namely federal approval of that CBS paramount pending merger with 329 00:23:48,635 --> 00:23:53,955 Speaker 1: Skydance Media. Widen and Sanders and Warren pressed Redstone on 330 00:23:53,995 --> 00:23:57,355 Speaker 1: whether the company has quote evaluated the risk of shareholder 331 00:23:57,435 --> 00:24:03,195 Speaker 1: derivative litigation from settling the lawsuit and critically again, according 332 00:24:03,235 --> 00:24:06,635 Speaker 1: to Oliver Darcy, whether DBS news content has been altered 333 00:24:07,235 --> 00:24:10,315 Speaker 1: to gain favor with regulators, among a series of other 334 00:24:10,355 --> 00:24:14,555 Speaker 1: probing questions, Quote Paramount appears to be trying to settle 335 00:24:14,555 --> 00:24:17,835 Speaker 1: a lawsuit that it has assessed as completely without merit 336 00:24:18,555 --> 00:24:21,195 Speaker 1: and moderating the content of its programs in order to 337 00:24:21,235 --> 00:24:25,635 Speaker 1: obtain approval of this merger. Under the federal bribery Statute, 338 00:24:25,675 --> 00:24:28,115 Speaker 1: it is illegal to corruptly give anything of value to 339 00:24:28,155 --> 00:24:33,715 Speaker 1: public officials to influence an official act. Miss Redstone's company 340 00:24:33,755 --> 00:24:37,755 Speaker 1: was thinking of postponing sixty minutes the other day because 341 00:24:37,795 --> 00:24:41,355 Speaker 1: it had a segment critical of Trump, putting on something 342 00:24:41,435 --> 00:24:47,675 Speaker 1: like I don't know motorcycle racing on ice Highlights of 343 00:24:47,715 --> 00:24:51,595 Speaker 1: motorcycle racing on ice Highlights of motorcycle racing on ice 344 00:24:51,635 --> 00:24:57,915 Speaker 1: from nineteen seventy seven. I'm just speculating here, So sure, 345 00:24:58,035 --> 00:25:03,475 Speaker 1: Miss Redstone, settle your Trump lawsuit, bribe lawsuit, bribe suit, 346 00:25:04,315 --> 00:25:08,595 Speaker 1: and and humans regained control of the DOJ. Prepare to 347 00:25:08,595 --> 00:25:15,635 Speaker 1: go to prison for bribery. Ms Redstone. And of course 348 00:25:15,675 --> 00:25:17,875 Speaker 1: this is all happening while all the networks are talking 349 00:25:17,875 --> 00:25:21,515 Speaker 1: about the alleged cover up of Biden's relative clarity while 350 00:25:21,555 --> 00:25:24,595 Speaker 1: they are actively right now this minute. The second covering 351 00:25:24,675 --> 00:25:30,395 Speaker 1: up Trump's increasing lack of clarity yesterday with Sarah Ramaposa, 352 00:25:30,435 --> 00:25:32,835 Speaker 1: the President of South Africa, who, unlike Zelensky, didn't have 353 00:25:32,875 --> 00:25:38,915 Speaker 1: to try to reason with him. Mister Ramaposo cleared Trump's clock. 354 00:25:41,515 --> 00:25:44,515 Speaker 1: But then my old colleague Peter Alexander of NBC News 355 00:25:44,595 --> 00:25:48,515 Speaker 1: tried to ask Trump an actual question about actual news stuff. 356 00:25:51,595 --> 00:25:58,315 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You know, you to get 357 00:25:58,315 --> 00:26:00,075 Speaker 1: out of here. What does this have to do with 358 00:26:00,115 --> 00:26:00,955 Speaker 1: the guitar jet? 359 00:26:01,515 --> 00:26:04,355 Speaker 5: They're giving the United States Air Force a jet, okay, 360 00:26:04,955 --> 00:26:07,315 Speaker 5: and it's a great thing. We're talking about a lot 361 00:26:07,355 --> 00:26:10,115 Speaker 5: of other things. This NBC trying to get off the 362 00:26:10,155 --> 00:26:12,555 Speaker 5: subject of what you just saw. You are a real 363 00:26:12,755 --> 00:26:16,035 Speaker 5: you know, you're a terrible reporter, number one. You don't 364 00:26:16,075 --> 00:26:18,475 Speaker 5: have what it takes to be reporting. You're not smart enough. 365 00:26:18,475 --> 00:26:21,595 Speaker 5: But for you to go into a subject about a 366 00:26:21,715 --> 00:26:23,995 Speaker 5: jet that was given to the United States Air Force, 367 00:26:23,995 --> 00:26:26,955 Speaker 5: which is a very nice thing. They also gave five 368 00:26:26,995 --> 00:26:30,835 Speaker 5: point one trillion dollars worth of investment in addition to 369 00:26:30,915 --> 00:26:31,435 Speaker 5: the jet. 370 00:26:32,315 --> 00:26:34,235 Speaker 1: Go back, you to go back to. 371 00:26:34,195 --> 00:26:38,235 Speaker 5: Your studio at NBC because Brian Roberts and the people 372 00:26:38,275 --> 00:26:41,635 Speaker 5: that run that place, they are to be investigated. They 373 00:26:41,675 --> 00:26:45,035 Speaker 5: are so terrible the way you run that deatwork, and 374 00:26:45,075 --> 00:26:45,795 Speaker 5: you are a disgrace. 375 00:26:46,075 --> 00:26:49,115 Speaker 1: No more questions from you. Go ahead. Now, look, at 376 00:26:49,155 --> 00:26:52,355 Speaker 1: some point somebody in this position, if not Peter Alexander, 377 00:26:52,435 --> 00:26:56,195 Speaker 1: somebody has got to say in response to that, I 378 00:26:56,235 --> 00:26:58,275 Speaker 1: have enough money, I can get another job. And if 379 00:26:58,275 --> 00:26:59,955 Speaker 1: I can't, it's been a great run, I go do 380 00:26:59,995 --> 00:27:02,595 Speaker 1: something else. And then they have to respond to Trump 381 00:27:02,635 --> 00:27:05,355 Speaker 1: and say, you're a terrible president and your brains are 382 00:27:05,395 --> 00:27:08,155 Speaker 1: leaking out your ears, and everybody knows that plane as 383 00:27:08,195 --> 00:27:11,075 Speaker 1: a bribe, and everybody knows you lost the twenty twenty election. 384 00:27:11,395 --> 00:27:14,275 Speaker 1: By the way, your hair looks like the cheapest wig 385 00:27:14,595 --> 00:27:18,355 Speaker 1: on the head of the worst clown in the Ringling Brothers, 386 00:27:18,435 --> 00:27:23,155 Speaker 1: Barnum and Effing Bailey's circus. If you get fired, you 387 00:27:23,195 --> 00:27:27,795 Speaker 1: get fired. My suggestion would be get fired and somebody 388 00:27:27,835 --> 00:27:30,195 Speaker 1: will hire you for twice the money you're making. Peter, 389 00:27:31,715 --> 00:27:34,195 Speaker 1: nearly nineteen years ago, I'm sitting on a jet on 390 00:27:34,275 --> 00:27:37,355 Speaker 1: the tarmac in La reading about Donald Rumsfeld calling all 391 00:27:37,395 --> 00:27:40,675 Speaker 1: of us who criticized Bush or his bushy in Iraq 392 00:27:40,795 --> 00:27:45,675 Speaker 1: policies morally or intellectually confused, And I thought, ef you, 393 00:27:46,155 --> 00:27:51,675 Speaker 1: old fascist. And I started handwriting a commentary saying EF you, 394 00:27:52,235 --> 00:27:56,555 Speaker 1: old fascist, expecting it would get me fired. It would 395 00:27:56,555 --> 00:27:59,435 Speaker 1: be the last thing I ever did on television. And 396 00:27:59,515 --> 00:28:02,155 Speaker 1: guess what, it did not get me fired. In fact, 397 00:28:02,555 --> 00:28:07,435 Speaker 1: it got me like sixty seven mellon dollars. So somebody 398 00:28:07,475 --> 00:28:10,915 Speaker 1: in this situation, Peter or anybody else in that White 399 00:28:10,955 --> 00:28:16,075 Speaker 1: House Press office who is still an actual reporter, somebody 400 00:28:16,195 --> 00:28:19,995 Speaker 1: who gets in that situation where Trump humiliates them, needs 401 00:28:20,035 --> 00:28:25,195 Speaker 1: to humiliate him back, needs to stand up to Trump 402 00:28:26,795 --> 00:28:34,195 Speaker 1: and say, F you, old fascist. President Ramaposa kind of did. 403 00:28:35,235 --> 00:28:36,595 Speaker 1: Trump of course never noticed. 404 00:28:36,995 --> 00:28:39,275 Speaker 5: So why did they give us a plane to the 405 00:28:39,355 --> 00:28:42,075 Speaker 5: United States Air Force? That's what that idiot talks about 406 00:28:42,355 --> 00:28:44,915 Speaker 5: after viewing a thing with thousands of people are dead. 407 00:28:45,515 --> 00:28:47,635 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't have a plane to give you. 408 00:28:47,835 --> 00:28:51,515 Speaker 5: I wish I did. I would take it if your 409 00:28:51,555 --> 00:28:54,675 Speaker 5: country offered the United States Air Force applant, I would. 410 00:28:54,435 --> 00:28:58,515 Speaker 1: Take it, okay. But coming back to this issue, which 411 00:28:58,555 --> 00:29:01,075 Speaker 1: I really would like us to talk about, and to 412 00:29:01,115 --> 00:29:05,395 Speaker 1: talk about it very commonly, Trump never heard it too 413 00:29:05,435 --> 00:29:08,435 Speaker 1: busy looking at himself in the mirror to realize that 414 00:29:08,515 --> 00:29:11,875 Speaker 1: Ramaposa jokingly offered him a bribe, and then he Trump 415 00:29:12,235 --> 00:29:16,595 Speaker 1: seriously accepted it. What another plane? More money from me? Good? 416 00:29:16,595 --> 00:29:20,315 Speaker 1: If I get all the money, I'll never die. Oh 417 00:29:20,355 --> 00:29:24,195 Speaker 1: how I wish President Ramaposa had said, and your hair 418 00:29:24,275 --> 00:29:26,635 Speaker 1: looks like the cheapest wig on the head of the 419 00:29:26,635 --> 00:29:31,835 Speaker 1: worst clown in the Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey circus. 420 00:29:33,915 --> 00:29:38,435 Speaker 1: Trump's mental deterioration continues to accelerate, not only that stuff yesterday, 421 00:29:39,875 --> 00:29:42,955 Speaker 1: not only when he said Biden had staged nine cancer 422 00:29:42,955 --> 00:29:47,275 Speaker 1: There is no such thing. But he has been flatly 423 00:29:47,355 --> 00:29:57,195 Speaker 1: in the last week fixated on on anal issues. On 424 00:29:57,595 --> 00:30:02,355 Speaker 1: the ass. This was at an event at the Kennedy 425 00:30:02,395 --> 00:30:05,835 Speaker 1: Center for the Performing Arts. And then they rigged the election. 426 00:30:06,635 --> 00:30:08,275 Speaker 1: And then I said, you know what I'll do. I'll 427 00:30:08,355 --> 00:30:13,155 Speaker 1: run again and I'll shove it up their ass. That 428 00:30:13,315 --> 00:30:15,275 Speaker 1: was at an event at the Kennedy Center for the 429 00:30:15,315 --> 00:30:18,155 Speaker 1: Performing Arts. It was an event about restoring decorum and 430 00:30:18,235 --> 00:30:21,035 Speaker 1: lifting up the best of our country at the Kennedy Center. 431 00:30:21,315 --> 00:30:23,235 Speaker 1: And according to Trump, the best way to do that 432 00:30:23,475 --> 00:30:25,395 Speaker 1: is to tell the audience at the Kennedy Center that 433 00:30:25,475 --> 00:30:28,035 Speaker 1: his goal, the sitting president's goal, has been to shove 434 00:30:28,115 --> 00:30:36,155 Speaker 1: something up somebody's ass. Parenthetically lost behind Trump's new ass 435 00:30:36,275 --> 00:30:43,475 Speaker 1: obsession is this kind of laugh out loud funny new 436 00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:47,835 Speaker 1: MAGA approved dehydrated pro American lineup of events at the 437 00:30:47,875 --> 00:30:56,115 Speaker 1: Kennedy Center, which includes a stage play version of Missus Doubtfire, which, 438 00:30:56,915 --> 00:31:00,515 Speaker 1: unless it's undergone extensive rewriting since the last time I 439 00:31:00,515 --> 00:31:03,275 Speaker 1: saw the movie, Missus Doubtfire, is I believe still a 440 00:31:03,315 --> 00:31:06,755 Speaker 1: story about a guy who dresses up in drag so 441 00:31:06,795 --> 00:31:10,755 Speaker 1: he can get close to children. Wasn't this the exact 442 00:31:10,835 --> 00:31:13,155 Speaker 1: thing Trump ran on last year, claiming if it was 443 00:31:13,195 --> 00:31:16,115 Speaker 1: not stopped, it would destroy the world before January first, 444 00:31:16,195 --> 00:31:25,595 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, And of course, what is nominally this 445 00:31:25,795 --> 00:31:31,275 Speaker 1: country's last surviving news channel continues to ignore almost all 446 00:31:31,315 --> 00:31:34,835 Speaker 1: of this so that it can instead on a twenty 447 00:31:34,835 --> 00:31:40,275 Speaker 1: four to seven basis, hawk this Jake Thompson. No, it's 448 00:31:40,435 --> 00:31:48,075 Speaker 1: Jake Tapper, It's Tapper Thompson. I know it's Jake Tapper 449 00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:52,715 Speaker 1: and Alex Thompson. It's actually it's a piece of shit 450 00:31:52,755 --> 00:31:59,315 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory and gossip book supposedly about Biden's acuity. His 451 00:31:59,395 --> 00:32:04,435 Speaker 1: granddaughter was nice enough to call it silly. They have 452 00:32:04,555 --> 00:32:06,475 Speaker 1: this book and they are trying to sell a copy 453 00:32:06,515 --> 00:32:09,195 Speaker 1: of it to every person in America, to the point 454 00:32:09,195 --> 00:32:12,355 Speaker 1: where I fully expect Jake Tapper to ring my doorbell 455 00:32:12,395 --> 00:32:17,355 Speaker 1: at some point and offer me a discount. They are 456 00:32:17,395 --> 00:32:19,915 Speaker 1: doing this while Trump is on the verge of complex 457 00:32:20,035 --> 00:32:24,555 Speaker 1: visual hallucinations. They are working on the last president. You 458 00:32:24,595 --> 00:32:30,635 Speaker 1: are one president behind Jake. Jake, you should get yourself 459 00:32:30,755 --> 00:32:35,275 Speaker 1: checked for brain tumors. You have managed to top yourself 460 00:32:35,595 --> 00:32:40,635 Speaker 1: or bottom yourself by not merely going on Megan Kelly's 461 00:32:40,955 --> 00:32:44,555 Speaker 1: ilsa she Wolf of the SS podcast. But while you 462 00:32:44,595 --> 00:32:48,395 Speaker 1: were there, you apologize to Lara Trump for scolding her 463 00:32:48,515 --> 00:32:53,955 Speaker 1: for once addressing the Biden acuity topic. You apologize to 464 00:32:54,075 --> 00:32:57,875 Speaker 1: Lara Trump should apologize to Hitler while you're at it. 465 00:32:59,795 --> 00:33:02,675 Speaker 1: And as to how CNN has prostituted itself for this 466 00:33:02,795 --> 00:33:07,355 Speaker 1: cynical book about last years presidential clarity of mind news 467 00:33:07,515 --> 00:33:10,555 Speaker 1: when this year's presidential clarity of mind news is that 468 00:33:10,635 --> 00:33:15,235 Speaker 1: Trump's brain appears to be missing. As John Stewart appletely 469 00:33:15,235 --> 00:33:18,675 Speaker 1: put it, it's not just Tapper whom they found video 470 00:33:18,795 --> 00:33:21,275 Speaker 1: of him holding his book up to camera at least 471 00:33:21,315 --> 00:33:25,155 Speaker 1: six times on his CNN program, which is now his 472 00:33:25,235 --> 00:33:29,155 Speaker 1: CNN Shopping Channel show, exactly the way Bill O'Reilly used 473 00:33:29,195 --> 00:33:31,995 Speaker 1: to hold up his stupid books up to camera on 474 00:33:32,075 --> 00:33:36,635 Speaker 1: his Fox Shopping Channel show. They didn't just find six 475 00:33:37,075 --> 00:33:42,155 Speaker 1: editions of Jake literally telling you to buy the book, 476 00:33:43,955 --> 00:33:47,195 Speaker 1: but all the CNN anchors and shows vying to see 477 00:33:47,235 --> 00:33:53,115 Speaker 1: who can filate Jake Tapper most frequently and effectively. I 478 00:33:53,195 --> 00:33:55,395 Speaker 1: have all kinds of problems with John Stewart, but his 479 00:33:55,435 --> 00:33:58,475 Speaker 1: writer's room is still the best we have for manufacturing 480 00:33:58,555 --> 00:34:02,595 Speaker 1: perfect analogies. It's Denizen's saw what CNN is doing, what 481 00:34:02,675 --> 00:34:06,115 Speaker 1: everybody from Brian Stelter to Andy the k File Guy, 482 00:34:06,475 --> 00:34:10,555 Speaker 1: to Aaron Burnett to Pamela Brown are doing to destroy 483 00:34:10,595 --> 00:34:15,675 Speaker 1: their own credibility. As Stuart said, it's at the point 484 00:34:15,715 --> 00:34:18,515 Speaker 1: where it looked like a girl Scout cookie contest. You know, 485 00:34:19,155 --> 00:34:22,595 Speaker 1: whoever sells the most Jake Tapper books gets a free 486 00:34:22,595 --> 00:34:27,955 Speaker 1: Shwin bike. This is a good time to mention that 487 00:34:28,035 --> 00:34:30,715 Speaker 1: CNN will air George Clooney's stage version of good Night 488 00:34:30,795 --> 00:34:35,435 Speaker 1: and good Luck Live from Broadway with Clooney as Edward R. 489 00:34:35,515 --> 00:34:39,115 Speaker 1: Murrow CNN will air it on its network on June seventh, 490 00:34:39,155 --> 00:34:43,995 Speaker 1: and this will be the first time anyone will attempt 491 00:34:44,235 --> 00:34:55,915 Speaker 1: to portray actual journalism on CNN in years. What they 492 00:34:55,915 --> 00:34:59,515 Speaker 1: should do is just leave the live feed on from 493 00:34:59,555 --> 00:35:03,075 Speaker 1: the Winter Garden Theater after George is done, and just 494 00:35:03,155 --> 00:35:05,555 Speaker 1: never come back with anything that's on at the moment. 495 00:35:06,315 --> 00:35:09,875 Speaker 1: Just show what's ever live, including the guy cleaning it 496 00:35:09,955 --> 00:35:16,115 Speaker 1: up with a broom. Higher ratings. Also of interest here, 497 00:35:16,235 --> 00:35:19,555 Speaker 1: good Golly, Bill Maher is back on the Worst Person's list. 498 00:35:20,275 --> 00:35:23,315 Speaker 1: Karma is that process by which you do something evil 499 00:35:23,355 --> 00:35:25,835 Speaker 1: and stupid, and you do not try to correct it, 500 00:35:26,155 --> 00:35:29,275 Speaker 1: and soon enough, out of nowhere, the universe punishes you 501 00:35:29,915 --> 00:35:35,395 Speaker 1: for something else you did. Bill Chump was charming. I 502 00:35:35,435 --> 00:35:37,475 Speaker 1: didn't get to meet Eva Brown when I was there. 503 00:35:37,715 --> 00:35:45,515 Speaker 1: Mar just got himself some big mf ing karma. That's next. 504 00:35:46,235 --> 00:36:14,035 Speaker 1: This is Countdown. This is Countdown with Keith Openman still 505 00:36:14,035 --> 00:36:16,955 Speaker 1: ahead on this all new edition of Countdown. This sounds 506 00:36:17,035 --> 00:36:23,115 Speaker 1: like a really long, convoluted stretch. How a piece from 507 00:36:23,195 --> 00:36:27,275 Speaker 1: the fabric roof at the baseball domed Stadium in Saint 508 00:36:27,355 --> 00:36:32,915 Speaker 1: Petersburg destroyed by last October's hurricane arriving in the mail 509 00:36:33,155 --> 00:36:35,755 Speaker 1: from a friend of mine made me understand why I 510 00:36:35,875 --> 00:36:40,595 Speaker 1: do this podcast when it is so much work, and 511 00:36:40,675 --> 00:36:44,915 Speaker 1: so much of that work is so painful. Talking about 512 00:36:44,995 --> 00:36:52,035 Speaker 1: Trump is like gargling flaming chainsaws. Why do I do this? 513 00:36:52,275 --> 00:36:56,675 Speaker 1: It's because my dad once correctly warned me that another 514 00:36:57,235 --> 00:37:01,355 Speaker 1: sports arena fabric roof would vanish due to bad weather, 515 00:37:01,595 --> 00:37:05,235 Speaker 1: and it was all math and physics, and for him, 516 00:37:05,275 --> 00:37:09,715 Speaker 1: all that work was so hard and so painful. A metaphor, 517 00:37:10,315 --> 00:37:13,955 Speaker 1: we are all living under a roof that will collapse 518 00:37:14,475 --> 00:37:18,795 Speaker 1: and will kill many of us. So somebody has to 519 00:37:18,835 --> 00:37:21,755 Speaker 1: sit here and keep pointing and screaming. 520 00:37:21,915 --> 00:37:25,715 Speaker 6: That roof is going to collapse. Does anybody hear no 521 00:37:26,155 --> 00:37:32,675 Speaker 6: physics or evacuations. We're getting a new roof next. 522 00:37:32,675 --> 00:37:36,315 Speaker 1: In things I promised not to tell first of believe 523 00:37:36,315 --> 00:37:38,875 Speaker 1: it or not, there's still more new idiots to talk about. 524 00:37:39,875 --> 00:37:43,195 Speaker 1: The roundup of the miscreants, morons and dunning Krueger effects 525 00:37:43,195 --> 00:37:49,555 Speaker 1: specimens who constitute the latest other worst persons in the world, 526 00:37:50,875 --> 00:37:56,475 Speaker 1: the Bronze worse Grock. I'm just not convinced we should 527 00:37:56,475 --> 00:38:02,315 Speaker 1: call AI artificial intelligence yet. This is of course Musk's 528 00:38:02,435 --> 00:38:07,155 Speaker 1: AI bot and asked about that clip I played earlier 529 00:38:07,195 --> 00:38:11,155 Speaker 1: of Christy Nome now with eight new action adventure dress 530 00:38:11,235 --> 00:38:15,995 Speaker 1: up outfits. Not knowing what Habeas corpus is, or what 531 00:38:16,195 --> 00:38:18,915 Speaker 1: part of the Constitution it's in, or what the word 532 00:38:19,035 --> 00:38:26,075 Speaker 1: suspend means. Groc was so confused it thought Christy Nome 533 00:38:26,235 --> 00:38:32,235 Speaker 1: was talking about the WNBA. The question to Groc from 534 00:38:32,875 --> 00:38:38,275 Speaker 1: OGP two three ninety six, does what Christy Nomes does 535 00:38:38,395 --> 00:38:44,195 Speaker 1: say in this video make sense? You need artificial intelligence 536 00:38:44,235 --> 00:38:49,475 Speaker 1: to answer that question, Groc answers. Without seeing the specific video, 537 00:38:49,555 --> 00:38:53,635 Speaker 1: I can't directly assess Christy Nomes's statements. However, if this 538 00:38:53,795 --> 00:38:59,195 Speaker 1: relates to the reason Caitlin Clark Angel Reese WNBA incident 539 00:38:59,275 --> 00:39:02,795 Speaker 1: on May seventeenth, twenty twenty five, both players and officials 540 00:39:02,795 --> 00:39:05,595 Speaker 1: called the foul standard basketball play. Clark said it was 541 00:39:05,635 --> 00:39:07,915 Speaker 1: a good take Fowl and Reese agreed it was just 542 00:39:07,995 --> 00:39:11,715 Speaker 1: part of the game. The flagrant one ruling suggests unnecessary 543 00:39:11,715 --> 00:39:14,995 Speaker 1: but not malicious contact. Some fans see it as an 544 00:39:14,995 --> 00:39:18,675 Speaker 1: excessive due to the rivalry, but there's no clear evidence 545 00:39:18,675 --> 00:39:22,115 Speaker 1: of intent beyond competition. If nomes comments align with this, 546 00:39:22,155 --> 00:39:26,235 Speaker 1: they make sense in context. Can you clarify the videos content. 547 00:39:30,075 --> 00:39:32,755 Speaker 1: Number one, it makes more sense than what Christy Nomes says. 548 00:39:33,635 --> 00:39:38,395 Speaker 1: Number two. Maybe Trump's idiot Secretary of Education Linda McMahon 549 00:39:38,435 --> 00:39:41,795 Speaker 1: is actually right after all. Maybe we should call this 550 00:39:43,235 --> 00:39:48,355 Speaker 1: a one. The runner up worser Mike Richards, not Michael Richards, 551 00:39:49,035 --> 00:39:54,955 Speaker 1: not Keith Richards. Mike. One of the reasons MAGA disease 552 00:39:55,155 --> 00:40:00,315 Speaker 1: spreads and thrives and claims new victims who were at 553 00:40:00,315 --> 00:40:04,275 Speaker 1: one point intelligent, reliable, responsible human beings, or at least 554 00:40:04,315 --> 00:40:08,115 Speaker 1: pre to be that. One of the reasons that's true 555 00:40:08,155 --> 00:40:11,915 Speaker 1: is that it allows the justifiably canceled, awful, hateful people 556 00:40:12,315 --> 00:40:16,595 Speaker 1: to resume their careers after they were banished. I mean, 557 00:40:16,635 --> 00:40:21,315 Speaker 1: look at the political scumbag Mark no pants Halpron. Jeff 558 00:40:21,315 --> 00:40:26,755 Speaker 1: Scarborough just went on Mark Halprin's podcast, meaning we are 559 00:40:26,795 --> 00:40:30,915 Speaker 1: this close to Halpron getting his job back on scarborough show, 560 00:40:31,275 --> 00:40:37,315 Speaker 1: which is called Morning Vshi anyway, Mike Richards not Jack Scarborough. 561 00:40:38,475 --> 00:40:41,355 Speaker 1: Mike Richards is the new president and chief content officer 562 00:40:41,435 --> 00:40:47,755 Speaker 1: of The Daily Wire, Ben Shapiro's sinking ship. Shapiro had 563 00:40:47,795 --> 00:40:52,035 Speaker 1: been showing signs of rare humanity. Recently fired Candace Owens 564 00:40:52,035 --> 00:40:56,115 Speaker 1: for anti semitism, wants to fire Peter Navarro into the 565 00:40:56,155 --> 00:41:01,475 Speaker 1: ocean via a catapult unquote over tariffs. Way, he finds 566 00:41:01,515 --> 00:41:06,515 Speaker 1: out who he hired in Mike Richards. Here come the catapults. 567 00:41:08,035 --> 00:41:12,155 Speaker 1: Mike Richards is a former executive producer and host of Jeopardy. 568 00:41:12,355 --> 00:41:15,515 Speaker 1: This is the guy who was running the search to 569 00:41:15,675 --> 00:41:19,475 Speaker 1: succeed Trebec and was then run out of the Jeopardy 570 00:41:19,555 --> 00:41:22,715 Speaker 1: Shop after the office filled with stories that he was 571 00:41:22,795 --> 00:41:25,475 Speaker 1: fixing the search so that the search would wind up 572 00:41:25,555 --> 00:41:31,435 Speaker 1: choosing Mike Richards himself. Also, there was that small problem 573 00:41:31,435 --> 00:41:33,875 Speaker 1: of all the crap he talked on his podcast, like 574 00:41:33,955 --> 00:41:37,515 Speaker 1: five years earlier, fat shaming women and calling one model 575 00:41:37,555 --> 00:41:41,355 Speaker 1: a quote booth slut and drawing the ire of the 576 00:41:41,355 --> 00:41:46,715 Speaker 1: ADL before the ADL itself went sour when somebody said 577 00:41:46,755 --> 00:41:51,435 Speaker 1: something about big noses, Mike Richards reportedly said, ixnay on 578 00:41:51,555 --> 00:41:57,515 Speaker 1: the o's nay, She's not an ooja unquote. Richards hosted 579 00:41:57,595 --> 00:42:02,235 Speaker 1: Jeopardy for about a week then well then cut to 580 00:42:02,275 --> 00:42:06,395 Speaker 1: five years later where he's running the daily wire for 581 00:42:06,515 --> 00:42:10,035 Speaker 1: a guy who fired somebody for anti semitism. Have a 582 00:42:10,075 --> 00:42:13,315 Speaker 1: nice month, and just as we're hitting a new round 583 00:42:13,355 --> 00:42:15,915 Speaker 1: of media collapses, like the Daily Wire needing a new 584 00:42:15,955 --> 00:42:19,435 Speaker 1: buyer or money because it's running out. What other new 585 00:42:19,515 --> 00:42:24,275 Speaker 1: media collapses like The Winner the Worst, Bill. 586 00:42:24,155 --> 00:42:28,555 Speaker 6: Maher, Oh, he's back. 587 00:42:30,115 --> 00:42:33,355 Speaker 1: Sometimes you commit a sin or two, like dining with 588 00:42:33,395 --> 00:42:36,875 Speaker 1: Trump and falling for his Ted Bundy psychopath charm bullshit 589 00:42:37,035 --> 00:42:39,795 Speaker 1: for the second time. And then when your friend Larry 590 00:42:39,915 --> 00:42:42,955 Speaker 1: David cuts you into confetti in the New York Times, 591 00:42:44,715 --> 00:42:49,115 Speaker 1: railing at Larry rather than just saying three simple words, 592 00:42:49,355 --> 00:42:54,515 Speaker 1: I deserved that I deserved. That is the quickest way 593 00:42:54,515 --> 00:42:58,635 Speaker 1: out of any controversy. That's not what Bill did. Man. 594 00:42:58,835 --> 00:43:01,875 Speaker 4: Now he's in made these six million Jews. 595 00:43:01,995 --> 00:43:03,155 Speaker 1: Larry offended them. 596 00:43:03,235 --> 00:43:06,075 Speaker 4: I didn't defend them by heavy dinner with trem just 597 00:43:06,115 --> 00:43:08,315 Speaker 4: because I'm too stupid to know that. I fell for 598 00:43:08,475 --> 00:43:12,155 Speaker 4: this crab in twenty fourteen. The last time he suffed 599 00:43:12,235 --> 00:43:14,955 Speaker 4: sod me. Now he soffed something again. I think he 600 00:43:15,115 --> 00:43:18,275 Speaker 4: was really very polite and anything. We should sit down 601 00:43:18,315 --> 00:43:18,595 Speaker 4: with me. 602 00:43:19,395 --> 00:43:22,235 Speaker 1: You know, we talked in such Neville Chamberlain went to 603 00:43:22,315 --> 00:43:25,395 Speaker 1: hell because of this Bill. All right, enough of that 604 00:43:26,555 --> 00:43:31,235 Speaker 1: last year. In any event, as I'm pointing out here, 605 00:43:31,995 --> 00:43:34,755 Speaker 1: when you do things like this, often you are punished, 606 00:43:35,155 --> 00:43:37,275 Speaker 1: not for what you have just done, but for something else. 607 00:43:37,755 --> 00:43:40,875 Speaker 1: This is the way the universe works. Last year, Mar 608 00:43:40,955 --> 00:43:47,595 Speaker 1: launched a podcast company based on his podcast I'll point 609 00:43:47,635 --> 00:43:50,595 Speaker 1: out here's here's my experience with podcasts, and this is 610 00:43:50,635 --> 00:43:54,075 Speaker 1: a very successful one. It's still kind of boutique, but 611 00:43:54,155 --> 00:43:56,875 Speaker 1: it makes a surprisingly large amount of money. And we're 612 00:43:56,875 --> 00:44:02,235 Speaker 1: it's somewhere near seventy five million total verified views and 613 00:44:02,435 --> 00:44:07,075 Speaker 1: listens between here and Youtubeube. It's pretty good. We're not 614 00:44:07,155 --> 00:44:09,835 Speaker 1: even three years old yet. And I do this in 615 00:44:09,875 --> 00:44:15,795 Speaker 1: my suit closet. My producers are my dogs. Anyway. Last year, 616 00:44:15,835 --> 00:44:18,875 Speaker 1: he launched a podcast company, the point being don't launch 617 00:44:18,875 --> 00:44:22,995 Speaker 1: a podcast company. Do your fing podcast, count your money, 618 00:44:23,035 --> 00:44:27,435 Speaker 1: and go home. Leave the podcast companies to the people 619 00:44:27,675 --> 00:44:31,675 Speaker 1: that can afford what happens when it doesn't work, or 620 00:44:31,675 --> 00:44:34,715 Speaker 1: when you can't find other good podcasters, worry about your 621 00:44:34,715 --> 00:44:40,555 Speaker 1: own damn podcast. Anyway, he launched a podcast company based 622 00:44:40,595 --> 00:44:44,075 Speaker 1: on his podcast, and he declared, we talk like no 623 00:44:44,115 --> 00:44:49,035 Speaker 1: one can cancel us, Bill, and you got that wrong too. 624 00:44:49,835 --> 00:44:55,635 Speaker 1: Your company has now been canceled ceased operations last week, 625 00:44:55,755 --> 00:45:01,635 Speaker 1: apparently per Semaphore News. Damn shame. After he'd hired poor 626 00:45:01,675 --> 00:45:04,995 Speaker 1: old sage Steele to do a podcast and buy away 627 00:45:05,515 --> 00:45:09,515 Speaker 1: what the f ever happened to Sage Steal having so 628 00:45:09,635 --> 00:45:14,275 Speaker 1: much fun with the self definestration, the weekly self defenestration 629 00:45:14,395 --> 00:45:17,875 Speaker 1: of Sage the worst broadcast partner I've ever had in 630 00:45:17,875 --> 00:45:22,555 Speaker 1: my life, worse than Chris Myers Steele. And then she's 631 00:45:22,595 --> 00:45:25,755 Speaker 1: not on the air. She's just like on YouTube. It's 632 00:45:25,795 --> 00:45:31,515 Speaker 1: like everybody's on YouTube. She's not in the Trump administration. Wait, 633 00:45:31,555 --> 00:45:33,435 Speaker 1: why am I complaining about this? She's not on the 634 00:45:33,435 --> 00:45:35,875 Speaker 1: air and she's not on the Trump administration. All right, 635 00:45:35,915 --> 00:45:38,595 Speaker 1: don't tell me. I'm cool with it the way it is. Oh, 636 00:45:38,675 --> 00:45:43,755 Speaker 1: she's getting married again. Can you send someone for their wedding? 637 00:45:44,355 --> 00:45:50,755 Speaker 1: Just a box of condolences to the groom? I'm so sorry, 638 00:45:50,915 --> 00:45:54,755 Speaker 1: you have no idea. I did like six television shows 639 00:45:54,755 --> 00:45:58,595 Speaker 1: whe her and I can already predict your life for you. Flee, 640 00:45:58,635 --> 00:46:03,435 Speaker 1: please flee. Anyway, she's getting married again, and she's making 641 00:46:03,515 --> 00:46:06,275 Speaker 1: the rounds again, reminiscent about the day that she got 642 00:46:06,355 --> 00:46:11,315 Speaker 1: hit by a drive at a golf tournament. Good times, anyway, 643 00:46:11,475 --> 00:46:15,755 Speaker 1: Podcasting experts say mar Belief briefly, the employer of Sage 644 00:46:15,795 --> 00:46:21,075 Speaker 1: Seal probably just ran out of money, so Bango's Club 645 00:46:21,195 --> 00:46:26,075 Speaker 1: Random Studios, though apparently Mars podcast will continue somewhere, and 646 00:46:26,115 --> 00:46:29,555 Speaker 1: that will allow Bill to humiliate himself to dozens of 647 00:46:29,595 --> 00:46:33,395 Speaker 1: people simultaneously, rather than having to do it one at 648 00:46:33,395 --> 00:46:39,155 Speaker 1: a time. Bill, there's a lesson here. One never say 649 00:46:39,675 --> 00:46:45,115 Speaker 1: your ship Titanic is unsinkable, and two never say your 650 00:46:45,155 --> 00:46:53,675 Speaker 1: podcast company is uncancellable. Mar canceled two days, Other Worst 651 00:46:54,235 --> 00:46:54,715 Speaker 1: Worst and. 652 00:46:56,555 --> 00:46:56,995 Speaker 4: The world. 653 00:47:20,115 --> 00:47:22,395 Speaker 1: Finally to the number one story on this all new 654 00:47:22,515 --> 00:47:24,995 Speaker 1: edition of Countdown and Things I promised not to tell. 655 00:47:25,515 --> 00:47:28,035 Speaker 1: This doesn't really qualify for the title, but what the hell, 656 00:47:28,515 --> 00:47:33,075 Speaker 1: it's my podcast. I hold in my hand a piece 657 00:47:33,915 --> 00:47:38,595 Speaker 1: of what was, until last September October, a piece of 658 00:47:38,635 --> 00:47:42,875 Speaker 1: the roof at Trumpicana Field in Saint Petersburg, Florida, the 659 00:47:42,915 --> 00:47:46,315 Speaker 1: home of the Tampa Bay Rays baseball team, not the 660 00:47:46,355 --> 00:47:52,755 Speaker 1: most inviting of indoor sports stadiums, but no longer in use. 661 00:47:54,315 --> 00:47:57,115 Speaker 1: A friend of mine, a devoted listener to this podcast, 662 00:47:57,155 --> 00:48:00,395 Speaker 1: and I'll keep his name quiet so as not to 663 00:48:01,715 --> 00:48:05,915 Speaker 1: mark him with the scarlet letter among those he deals 664 00:48:05,955 --> 00:48:09,315 Speaker 1: with in life, was kind enough to purchase for me 665 00:48:09,435 --> 00:48:12,635 Speaker 1: during a recent trip there, a piece of what was 666 00:48:12,675 --> 00:48:16,875 Speaker 1: the roof. The Tampa Bay Rays, owned by friends of mine, 667 00:48:17,395 --> 00:48:21,795 Speaker 1: are very intelligently selling eight x ten pieces of the 668 00:48:21,875 --> 00:48:26,235 Speaker 1: roof for fifteen dollars if you would like to have 669 00:48:26,315 --> 00:48:29,115 Speaker 1: the chance to hold and keep in your home. What 670 00:48:29,475 --> 00:48:33,035 Speaker 1: was a piece of a Major League baseball stadium. I'm 671 00:48:33,035 --> 00:48:36,435 Speaker 1: sure the Rays make these available on their website. I 672 00:48:36,475 --> 00:48:38,115 Speaker 1: hope they do. But I have to tell you my 673 00:48:38,235 --> 00:48:41,035 Speaker 1: surprise when I opened up the package. There was a 674 00:48:41,075 --> 00:48:44,235 Speaker 1: clear plastic bag from the place at which this was purchased, 675 00:48:44,235 --> 00:48:47,675 Speaker 1: inside the stadium that they're now using. The spring training 676 00:48:47,675 --> 00:48:49,995 Speaker 1: home of the New York Yankees is now the regular 677 00:48:50,035 --> 00:48:54,955 Speaker 1: season home of the Tampa Bay Rays. And I thought, well, 678 00:48:54,995 --> 00:48:58,595 Speaker 1: that's an odd way to package it. That thing there 679 00:48:58,595 --> 00:49:00,835 Speaker 1: in the back, that must be the cardboard backing to 680 00:49:00,835 --> 00:49:03,755 Speaker 1: make sure the thing isn't get folded in transit. No, 681 00:49:04,275 --> 00:49:08,475 Speaker 1: that's the roof. The roof looks like a piece of cardboard. 682 00:49:08,635 --> 00:49:11,435 Speaker 1: Looks like a shirt cardboard if you've ever gotten your 683 00:49:11,475 --> 00:49:14,195 Speaker 1: shirts back from the dry cleaners. That way. It has 684 00:49:14,235 --> 00:49:17,675 Speaker 1: about the thickness and the approximate look of a linen 685 00:49:17,795 --> 00:49:20,555 Speaker 1: duster coat that I own and I use as a raincoat. 686 00:49:21,155 --> 00:49:23,395 Speaker 1: I thought it was a piece of my duster. That 687 00:49:23,635 --> 00:49:27,835 Speaker 1: was the roof at that field, Tropicana Field, until Hurricane 688 00:49:27,835 --> 00:49:32,195 Speaker 1: Milton hit on October ninth of last year, and I 689 00:49:32,315 --> 00:49:36,115 Speaker 1: was reminded instantly in thinking of that disaster, as I 690 00:49:36,275 --> 00:49:39,235 Speaker 1: was when it happened, of my dad. My dad was 691 00:49:39,275 --> 00:49:42,835 Speaker 1: an architect who loved the design element and was a 692 00:49:42,875 --> 00:49:46,035 Speaker 1: born artist and used to be able to draw, not 693 00:49:46,395 --> 00:49:50,475 Speaker 1: just well, but he could produce what looked like the 694 00:49:50,595 --> 00:49:53,515 Speaker 1: kind of work that an entire architectural firm would take 695 00:49:53,635 --> 00:49:57,755 Speaker 1: months to produce, including if you've ever seen drawings before 696 00:49:57,915 --> 00:50:02,155 Speaker 1: the computer era of a new park or a new mall, 697 00:50:02,395 --> 00:50:05,475 Speaker 1: and the little stick figures in front of representing the 698 00:50:05,515 --> 00:50:09,395 Speaker 1: people anxiously and delightedly going into the mall or the park, 699 00:50:09,435 --> 00:50:12,355 Speaker 1: the little tiny hundreds of people. He could draw those 700 00:50:12,435 --> 00:50:15,995 Speaker 1: freehand and you'd never know that some team had not 701 00:50:16,155 --> 00:50:19,275 Speaker 1: slaved over them. So he was a born artist. I 702 00:50:19,355 --> 00:50:22,755 Speaker 1: inherited his ability to block letter so that people are 703 00:50:22,835 --> 00:50:26,395 Speaker 1: still surprised by how clean my lettering is. That's all 704 00:50:26,435 --> 00:50:31,435 Speaker 1: I got. My architectural career ended lettering. But Dad, because 705 00:50:31,475 --> 00:50:35,435 Speaker 1: he was so good at the art, really worked at 706 00:50:35,475 --> 00:50:38,915 Speaker 1: the math. He hated the math. He hated the physics 707 00:50:38,915 --> 00:50:43,395 Speaker 1: of it. He hated the construction part of architectural construction, which, 708 00:50:43,875 --> 00:50:45,755 Speaker 1: by the way, they don't let you just draw the 709 00:50:45,795 --> 00:50:47,995 Speaker 1: stick figures and the buildings. You have to go and 710 00:50:48,035 --> 00:50:50,715 Speaker 1: do the math calculating whether or not the damn thing 711 00:50:50,755 --> 00:50:55,035 Speaker 1: will fall down. So Dad became an expert who hated 712 00:50:55,275 --> 00:50:59,355 Speaker 1: doing it, kind of like me with politics. Okay, I 713 00:50:59,435 --> 00:51:02,875 Speaker 1: hate this, I better triple check everything, and he did, 714 00:51:03,595 --> 00:51:06,395 Speaker 1: and soon his ability to judge whether or not that 715 00:51:06,475 --> 00:51:11,995 Speaker 1: building would hold up probably exceeded his artistic capabilities. I 716 00:51:12,035 --> 00:51:13,755 Speaker 1: don't think he would like to hear me say that, 717 00:51:14,235 --> 00:51:18,715 Speaker 1: but it's true. One day, sometime in the winter of 718 00:51:18,795 --> 00:51:21,515 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven seventy eight, when I was a junior 719 00:51:21,555 --> 00:51:25,355 Speaker 1: in college, my phone rang at my dorm room fourteen 720 00:51:25,395 --> 00:51:27,875 Speaker 1: men In Hall at Cornell University, and it was my 721 00:51:27,995 --> 00:51:32,555 Speaker 1: dad calling me from Hartford, Connecticut. I can't remember if 722 00:51:32,635 --> 00:51:36,315 Speaker 1: this was December or perhaps the beginning of January of 723 00:51:36,395 --> 00:51:39,555 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, but it was early in the year, 724 00:51:39,675 --> 00:51:43,715 Speaker 1: and Dad said he was staying at a hotel overlooking 725 00:51:43,755 --> 00:51:47,235 Speaker 1: the Hartford Civic Center. Hertford Civic Center, the home of 726 00:51:47,555 --> 00:51:52,795 Speaker 1: University of Connecticut basketball games and the then New England 727 00:51:52,835 --> 00:51:55,755 Speaker 1: Whalers of the World Hockey Association and a couple of 728 00:51:55,795 --> 00:51:58,635 Speaker 1: other teams as well, a kind of brand new facility 729 00:51:58,995 --> 00:52:03,355 Speaker 1: in which the greatest concepts of American architectural design of 730 00:52:03,395 --> 00:52:08,755 Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies were merged. Ugly sports stadiums and malls. 731 00:52:09,595 --> 00:52:11,835 Speaker 1: The Hertford Civic Center was in the middle of a mall, 732 00:52:12,315 --> 00:52:15,475 Speaker 1: and the center, the actual arena, looked like just another 733 00:52:15,595 --> 00:52:18,675 Speaker 1: store in the mall. In any event, we'll leave the 734 00:52:18,755 --> 00:52:21,315 Speaker 1: esthetics out of it. Dad was saying he was staying 735 00:52:21,435 --> 00:52:24,275 Speaker 1: high up in this hotel and had an overlooking view 736 00:52:24,595 --> 00:52:28,875 Speaker 1: on a very very heavy snow winter that year nineteen 737 00:52:28,915 --> 00:52:32,595 Speaker 1: seventy seven seventy eight, and was looking just i'dly before 738 00:52:32,595 --> 00:52:35,515 Speaker 1: a meeting he had somewhere at some store location that 739 00:52:35,555 --> 00:52:38,275 Speaker 1: he was designing in that area. Was looking at the 740 00:52:38,355 --> 00:52:40,835 Speaker 1: roof of the Hartford Civic Center and there was a 741 00:52:40,835 --> 00:52:42,995 Speaker 1: lot of snow on top of it, because there was 742 00:52:43,035 --> 00:52:46,195 Speaker 1: a lot of snow everywhere that winter. In Ithaca, we 743 00:52:46,275 --> 00:52:50,075 Speaker 1: had three eleven inch snowstorms in five days, and the 744 00:52:50,115 --> 00:52:54,875 Speaker 1: only thing passable by foot was a small divot in 745 00:52:54,955 --> 00:52:58,115 Speaker 1: the snow drifts down the center of the main drags 746 00:52:58,155 --> 00:53:01,115 Speaker 1: at Cornell University, and if you encountered somebody walking in 747 00:53:01,115 --> 00:53:03,155 Speaker 1: the opposite direction, one of you had to go and 748 00:53:03,195 --> 00:53:07,075 Speaker 1: stand in the thirty inch snowbank for a moment. In 749 00:53:07,155 --> 00:53:09,475 Speaker 1: any event, Dad said, listen, do you ever go to 750 00:53:09,515 --> 00:53:12,515 Speaker 1: the Hertford Civic Center? And I said no, I actually 751 00:53:12,715 --> 00:53:15,555 Speaker 1: avoided that completely. Do any of the Cornell teams play there? 752 00:53:16,075 --> 00:53:17,915 Speaker 1: I said, well, it's possible, but I don't think we're 753 00:53:17,915 --> 00:53:21,275 Speaker 1: playing Yukon basketball this year. Good, don't go in there. 754 00:53:21,395 --> 00:53:23,955 Speaker 1: The damn thing's going to collapse sooner or later. And 755 00:53:23,995 --> 00:53:25,395 Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean, the damn thing's going 756 00:53:25,435 --> 00:53:27,755 Speaker 1: to collapse sooner or later. I knew nothing of the 757 00:53:27,875 --> 00:53:30,395 Speaker 1: nature of the roof, but the nature of the roof 758 00:53:30,395 --> 00:53:35,555 Speaker 1: at the Hertford Civic Center was not unlike this thing there, 759 00:53:35,915 --> 00:53:41,155 Speaker 1: this piece of duster thickness. I mean, you couldn't use 760 00:53:41,195 --> 00:53:44,035 Speaker 1: it as a as a computer pad, as a mouse pad. 761 00:53:44,155 --> 00:53:47,355 Speaker 1: It's not that thick That is the essence of the roof, 762 00:53:47,395 --> 00:53:50,475 Speaker 1: along with the superstructure, the metal, the grid work. But 763 00:53:50,675 --> 00:53:53,315 Speaker 1: the essence of it, the thing that the wind could 764 00:53:53,315 --> 00:53:55,875 Speaker 1: get under or the snow could get on top of, 765 00:53:56,475 --> 00:53:59,995 Speaker 1: was one I don't know sixty fourth of an inch 766 00:54:00,075 --> 00:54:04,075 Speaker 1: thick and kind of flexible. And Dad said, I don't 767 00:54:04,075 --> 00:54:06,515 Speaker 1: think they desire this, right, I had a quick look. 768 00:54:06,555 --> 00:54:09,315 Speaker 1: They let me, let me look inside, and I went, boy, 769 00:54:09,395 --> 00:54:11,035 Speaker 1: oh boy, I wouldn't come in here again for a 770 00:54:11,075 --> 00:54:13,915 Speaker 1: million dollars. And the guy then threw me out of 771 00:54:13,915 --> 00:54:18,915 Speaker 1: the building. That was my dad, that's me. Dad said, 772 00:54:18,955 --> 00:54:21,155 Speaker 1: there was so much snow on the roof, and it 773 00:54:21,235 --> 00:54:24,835 Speaker 1: was probably sufficiently designed to handle a great deal of snow. 774 00:54:24,915 --> 00:54:27,875 Speaker 1: He said, thirty six inches forty eight inches of snow. 775 00:54:27,995 --> 00:54:31,515 Speaker 1: It could withstand a couple of more serious snowstorms before 776 00:54:31,555 --> 00:54:34,355 Speaker 1: it and every other roof in Hartford, Connecticut would collapse. 777 00:54:34,435 --> 00:54:37,595 Speaker 1: He said. The problem was they had not done enough 778 00:54:37,635 --> 00:54:40,155 Speaker 1: with the grid work. This thing had been poorly designed, 779 00:54:40,475 --> 00:54:44,155 Speaker 1: especially if it got really warm and there was rain, 780 00:54:44,355 --> 00:54:46,275 Speaker 1: and then it got really cold and the whole thing 781 00:54:46,355 --> 00:54:48,835 Speaker 1: turned into a block of ice, which would double or 782 00:54:48,915 --> 00:54:53,595 Speaker 1: treble the weight on top of this roof. Sure enough, 783 00:54:53,715 --> 00:54:57,155 Speaker 1: I go into my college radio station on January eighteenth, 784 00:54:57,235 --> 00:54:59,835 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight, and the news is on the wire 785 00:55:00,275 --> 00:55:04,515 Speaker 1: that about five six hours after the University of Kinnetic 786 00:55:04,675 --> 00:55:08,395 Speaker 1: basketball team beat the University of Massachusetts basketball team in 787 00:55:08,435 --> 00:55:12,915 Speaker 1: front of counting staff and employees about forty eight hundred 788 00:55:12,915 --> 00:55:17,795 Speaker 1: people inside the Hertford Civic Center. About five hours afterwards, 789 00:55:17,835 --> 00:55:21,995 Speaker 1: about four in the morning, the Hartford Civic Center cloth 790 00:55:22,395 --> 00:55:26,275 Speaker 1: roof caved in under the weight of the ice that 791 00:55:26,355 --> 00:55:29,315 Speaker 1: had built up atop it. And it wasn't just the ice. 792 00:55:29,515 --> 00:55:31,995 Speaker 1: It was a design flaw. It was exactly as my 793 00:55:32,075 --> 00:55:35,355 Speaker 1: dad had forecast, maybe a month earlier, certainly at least 794 00:55:35,395 --> 00:55:38,395 Speaker 1: a week earlier. Whatever you do, don't let any of 795 00:55:38,435 --> 00:55:41,955 Speaker 1: Cornell teams go into the Hartford Civic Center. Boy, he 796 00:55:42,035 --> 00:55:45,955 Speaker 1: got that right. That was the good one. Because, of course, 797 00:55:46,155 --> 00:55:49,475 Speaker 1: the night watchman, the night manager of the Hartford Civic Center, 798 00:55:49,795 --> 00:55:53,075 Speaker 1: had cleaned the place out, after the employees there had 799 00:55:53,275 --> 00:55:57,035 Speaker 1: cleaned everything up, had locked the door, maybe at two 800 00:55:57,195 --> 00:55:59,715 Speaker 1: or three o'clock. And I don't know if I added 801 00:55:59,755 --> 00:56:03,515 Speaker 1: this in the years of remembering my dad forecasting this 802 00:56:03,675 --> 00:56:07,435 Speaker 1: disaster or not, or if it actually happened, but there 803 00:56:07,475 --> 00:56:09,995 Speaker 1: was some story about the last guy out locking the 804 00:56:10,035 --> 00:56:12,795 Speaker 1: place at three or four in the morning, driving a 805 00:56:12,835 --> 00:56:15,555 Speaker 1: couple of blocks away, stopped at a stoplight, and he 806 00:56:15,555 --> 00:56:18,595 Speaker 1: hears a roar, looks in his rear view mirror and 807 00:56:18,635 --> 00:56:21,035 Speaker 1: there's the roof of the Hartford Civic Center that he 808 00:56:21,075 --> 00:56:24,955 Speaker 1: has just left empty, caving in on itself. That may 809 00:56:24,995 --> 00:56:28,755 Speaker 1: be apocryphal, but it could have happened. That's how good 810 00:56:28,795 --> 00:56:31,555 Speaker 1: dad's prediction was. If he'd put a time stamp on 811 00:56:31,635 --> 00:56:33,675 Speaker 1: it, it was the only way he could have gotten it better. 812 00:56:34,675 --> 00:56:36,995 Speaker 1: The other thing, of course, that reminded me of was 813 00:56:36,995 --> 00:56:39,195 Speaker 1: the other time my dad made a prediction like that, 814 00:56:39,275 --> 00:56:42,555 Speaker 1: which was a true tragedy, and I regret not doing 815 00:56:42,555 --> 00:56:45,195 Speaker 1: more about it, and he regretted not doing more about it. 816 00:56:45,395 --> 00:56:47,755 Speaker 1: But there was a point at which you can't do 817 00:56:47,875 --> 00:56:50,195 Speaker 1: more about it because the people are telling you you're 818 00:56:50,235 --> 00:56:52,915 Speaker 1: insane and they're going to arrest you, and you should 819 00:56:52,955 --> 00:56:56,995 Speaker 1: stop fear mongering, etc. My dad used to travel all 820 00:56:57,035 --> 00:56:58,995 Speaker 1: the time. It was one of the great joys of 821 00:56:58,995 --> 00:57:01,835 Speaker 1: his becoming an architect. And as I've told the story before, 822 00:57:01,875 --> 00:57:05,115 Speaker 1: he became an architect without going to college. He was 823 00:57:05,155 --> 00:57:08,715 Speaker 1: offered a full ride as a high school valedictorian at 824 00:57:08,715 --> 00:57:11,155 Speaker 1: the School of Industrial Arts in New York, a full 825 00:57:11,235 --> 00:57:14,675 Speaker 1: ride to Cornell five years in the Architecture college, a 826 00:57:14,715 --> 00:57:18,235 Speaker 1: full scholarship. Had to turn it down because his father 827 00:57:18,315 --> 00:57:20,115 Speaker 1: said to him, well, yeah, you can go do your 828 00:57:20,195 --> 00:57:22,475 Speaker 1: drawing crap, but then your younger brother is going to 829 00:57:22,555 --> 00:57:24,475 Speaker 1: have to drop out of high school and support us 830 00:57:24,755 --> 00:57:28,595 Speaker 1: because my grandfather couldn't support the family, and not because 831 00:57:28,675 --> 00:57:32,795 Speaker 1: he had the victimization of the Great Depression. And my 832 00:57:32,835 --> 00:57:37,915 Speaker 1: grandfather just did not cooperate with anybody under any circumstances. 833 00:57:38,075 --> 00:57:40,875 Speaker 1: I am Saint Francis of the CSI compared to my grandfather, 834 00:57:41,515 --> 00:57:46,515 Speaker 1: I digress. My father's joy in architecture was he did 835 00:57:46,515 --> 00:57:49,995 Speaker 1: not turn out to design nine hundred story buildings that 836 00:57:50,035 --> 00:57:54,835 Speaker 1: were sweeping architectural monuments that would last like the pyramids did. 837 00:57:55,035 --> 00:57:57,835 Speaker 1: And they'd say, who was the designer of this palace? 838 00:57:58,395 --> 00:58:01,875 Speaker 1: Theodore Sea Olderman designed it. That's his statue over there. 839 00:58:01,915 --> 00:58:04,075 Speaker 1: It didn't happen that way, but at one point all 840 00:58:04,075 --> 00:58:06,795 Speaker 1: the basking Robs, like four hundred Baskin Robbins in this 841 00:58:06,875 --> 00:58:09,795 Speaker 1: country were all his design because he didn't know it 842 00:58:09,915 --> 00:58:12,075 Speaker 1: when he went into architecture. But he had a natural 843 00:58:12,115 --> 00:58:17,315 Speaker 1: ability to fit your stock architectural design for your chain 844 00:58:17,395 --> 00:58:20,555 Speaker 1: store into this oddly shaped place you were able to 845 00:58:20,595 --> 00:58:27,195 Speaker 1: rent in the mall in Nacadochis, Texas. So traveling around 846 00:58:27,275 --> 00:58:32,235 Speaker 1: to places like Nacadoches, Texas, and to the beach communities 847 00:58:32,235 --> 00:58:35,635 Speaker 1: of la which he loved, and to everywhere on earth, 848 00:58:35,675 --> 00:58:39,235 Speaker 1: and to Hartford, Connecticut, and to Kansas City, Missouri. Put 849 00:58:39,275 --> 00:58:42,995 Speaker 1: him in places like Kansas City, Missouri. And sometime late 850 00:58:43,035 --> 00:58:45,635 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty he would always call. In those pre 851 00:58:45,755 --> 00:58:48,755 Speaker 1: internet days and those pre cell phone days, he'd call 852 00:58:48,835 --> 00:58:51,075 Speaker 1: to say he'd gotten to the hotel. He'd leave an 853 00:58:51,115 --> 00:58:53,475 Speaker 1: itinerary in case we needed to get him. And he 854 00:58:53,555 --> 00:58:56,755 Speaker 1: was calling me late in nineteen eighty or early in 855 00:58:56,835 --> 00:59:01,275 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one to tell me that he was changing hotels. Yeah, 856 00:59:01,315 --> 00:59:03,155 Speaker 1: I checked into the Higatt Regency and here it's a 857 00:59:03,155 --> 00:59:06,195 Speaker 1: death trap. And I said, oh, what's wrong with it? Now? 858 00:59:06,235 --> 00:59:09,315 Speaker 1: Does it have a fabric roof? Hahaha? Was I right 859 00:59:09,355 --> 00:59:12,075 Speaker 1: about that? Yes? You were. I'm sorry. I don't mean 860 00:59:12,075 --> 00:59:14,195 Speaker 1: to mock you. We could have done something more now. 861 00:59:14,195 --> 00:59:16,595 Speaker 1: That worked out pretty well all things considered, given that 862 00:59:16,635 --> 00:59:19,835 Speaker 1: they wouldn't listen to me, the idiots. Do you see 863 00:59:19,835 --> 00:59:22,235 Speaker 1: where I come from? Do you see where my attitude 864 00:59:22,235 --> 00:59:25,755 Speaker 1: comes from? Well? He was right, as I am right. 865 00:59:27,235 --> 00:59:29,715 Speaker 1: It gets frustrating sometimes to be the only one who's 866 00:59:29,755 --> 00:59:33,635 Speaker 1: right in the room, especially when people's lives are endangered. 867 00:59:33,635 --> 00:59:35,355 Speaker 1: And that's the whole point. My dad didn't give a 868 00:59:35,435 --> 00:59:37,275 Speaker 1: damn whether or not he was right. It was a 869 00:59:37,275 --> 00:59:39,675 Speaker 1: certain source of pride to him that a subject that 870 00:59:39,715 --> 00:59:43,875 Speaker 1: he hated, he had mastered the arithmetic, the science, the 871 00:59:43,915 --> 00:59:46,715 Speaker 1: weightload management in the real meaning of it, not the 872 00:59:46,715 --> 00:59:50,555 Speaker 1: sports meaning of it. But he didn't get any joy 873 00:59:50,595 --> 00:59:52,115 Speaker 1: over the fact that he was right that the roof 874 00:59:52,155 --> 00:59:54,515 Speaker 1: had collapsed. He just said, maybe that's more evidence that 875 00:59:54,555 --> 00:59:56,915 Speaker 1: you should listen to me again. Where do you think 876 00:59:56,955 --> 01:00:00,355 Speaker 1: that comes from in this podcast? In any event, back 877 01:00:00,395 --> 01:00:02,355 Speaker 1: to the phone call from Kansas City. I've checked out. 878 01:00:02,355 --> 01:00:05,395 Speaker 1: I'm in the such and such hotel. Now here's the number, 879 01:00:05,635 --> 01:00:07,395 Speaker 1: and I wrote it down and I called my mother 880 01:00:07,435 --> 01:00:09,715 Speaker 1: and I said, change this on the itinerary. And whether 881 01:00:09,755 --> 01:00:14,235 Speaker 1: or not she did, who knows. In any event, he said, 882 01:00:14,755 --> 01:00:17,355 Speaker 1: you won't believe what they've done here. They've hung a 883 01:00:17,435 --> 01:00:25,755 Speaker 1: walkway from another walkway on top of another walkway. And 884 01:00:25,795 --> 01:00:28,635 Speaker 1: I was like, you can't be you can't be serious, 885 01:00:28,715 --> 01:00:30,395 Speaker 1: and he went, no, I'm serious. I went, no, no, you 886 01:00:30,435 --> 01:00:33,355 Speaker 1: can't be serious. In assuming I know what that means, 887 01:00:34,035 --> 01:00:36,035 Speaker 1: he said, all right, let me explain it. To you simply, 888 01:00:36,635 --> 01:00:39,315 Speaker 1: if you hang a walkway from a ceiling at like 889 01:00:39,355 --> 01:00:42,635 Speaker 1: this highatt regency, If you hang it from the ceiling, 890 01:00:42,915 --> 01:00:47,675 Speaker 1: let's say that requires a support for that hanging walkway 891 01:00:48,235 --> 01:00:53,675 Speaker 1: worth one point. If you hang another walkway from the 892 01:00:53,755 --> 01:00:57,395 Speaker 1: walkway from the ceiling, so that you have walkway number one, 893 01:00:57,595 --> 01:00:59,755 Speaker 1: and then below it hanging from walkway number one is 894 01:00:59,795 --> 01:01:02,475 Speaker 1: walkway number two. How many points worth of support do 895 01:01:02,555 --> 01:01:06,355 Speaker 1: you need? And I said two, No, you need three. 896 01:01:06,955 --> 01:01:09,835 Speaker 1: You need one for the original walkway, one for the 897 01:01:09,835 --> 01:01:12,995 Speaker 1: new walkway, and another point a third point for the 898 01:01:13,035 --> 01:01:16,235 Speaker 1: additional stress that the lower walkway has put on the 899 01:01:16,275 --> 01:01:19,595 Speaker 1: top one. You have doubled the stress. You need a three. 900 01:01:20,515 --> 01:01:24,995 Speaker 1: He said, they barely have one. It's a disaster waiting 901 01:01:24,995 --> 01:01:27,835 Speaker 1: to happen, as God is my witness. And he was 902 01:01:27,875 --> 01:01:30,115 Speaker 1: an atheist. It's an odd phrase, but he used it 903 01:01:30,155 --> 01:01:33,955 Speaker 1: all the time, as God is my witness, that thing 904 01:01:34,235 --> 01:01:36,275 Speaker 1: will collapse. And I went to the manager and I 905 01:01:36,315 --> 01:01:38,955 Speaker 1: asked to see the structural engineer, and I told him this, 906 01:01:39,035 --> 01:01:40,795 Speaker 1: and I gave him my credentials, and I mentioned the 907 01:01:40,835 --> 01:01:44,595 Speaker 1: Hertford Civic Center, and nobody listened to me. In fact, 908 01:01:44,675 --> 01:01:46,675 Speaker 1: they said, maybe you should leave, or maybe we're going 909 01:01:46,715 --> 01:01:48,715 Speaker 1: to have to call the authorities. You're beginning to make 910 01:01:48,715 --> 01:01:51,475 Speaker 1: a scene and frighten the other guests here, and he 911 01:01:51,515 --> 01:01:54,315 Speaker 1: said they should be frightened. The damn and he swore 912 01:01:54,715 --> 01:01:57,915 Speaker 1: roof is going to come down someday. The damn walkway 913 01:01:58,035 --> 01:02:00,035 Speaker 1: is going to drag the ceiling down. And if it 914 01:02:00,075 --> 01:02:04,235 Speaker 1: could be worse, these two ceilings, these two walkways hanging 915 01:02:04,275 --> 01:02:06,475 Speaker 1: from the sea. One is hanging from the other, and 916 01:02:06,515 --> 01:02:09,875 Speaker 1: they're on top of another walkway, So there's another walkway 917 01:02:09,875 --> 01:02:12,595 Speaker 1: that is not supported separately. He is supported separately, but 918 01:02:12,715 --> 01:02:16,195 Speaker 1: it's sitting below. So when walkway number two pulls down 919 01:02:16,235 --> 01:02:19,075 Speaker 1: Walkway number one on the way down to the floor 920 01:02:19,115 --> 01:02:21,035 Speaker 1: where they hold all sorts of events and have a 921 01:02:21,035 --> 01:02:24,355 Speaker 1: couple of nice lobby bars, it will go through walkway 922 01:02:24,435 --> 01:02:26,715 Speaker 1: number three. I don't know how many people are going 923 01:02:26,795 --> 01:02:30,555 Speaker 1: to get killed. They're going to get killed. So he 924 01:02:30,675 --> 01:02:33,235 Speaker 1: sounded like everybody you've ever seen in every science fiction 925 01:02:33,355 --> 01:02:35,795 Speaker 1: picture who then claims they came in from the future 926 01:02:35,995 --> 01:02:38,315 Speaker 1: and they asked him to leave, and he said, don't worry, 927 01:02:38,475 --> 01:02:41,195 Speaker 1: I'm not staying here, and don't send me the bill, 928 01:02:41,195 --> 01:02:43,155 Speaker 1: because by the time you send me the bill. You 929 01:02:43,235 --> 01:02:49,235 Speaker 1: guys won't be in business anymore. Once again, time elapses. 930 01:02:49,475 --> 01:02:51,515 Speaker 1: I didn't make any phone calls. Who am I going 931 01:02:51,555 --> 01:02:53,755 Speaker 1: to call? I'm a twenty two year old sportscaster in 932 01:02:53,755 --> 01:02:56,355 Speaker 1: New York City. I'm not exactly carrying any weight on 933 01:02:56,475 --> 01:02:59,955 Speaker 1: subjects like this. My dad has correctly predicted the fabric 934 01:03:00,035 --> 01:03:02,835 Speaker 1: roof collapse at the Hartford Civic Center. He now says 935 01:03:02,995 --> 01:03:06,395 Speaker 1: that there's a walkway hanging from another walkway, and there 936 01:03:06,395 --> 01:03:08,115 Speaker 1: should be a force of three and is only a 937 01:03:08,115 --> 01:03:10,595 Speaker 1: force of one. And I don't know what I'm talking about, 938 01:03:10,595 --> 01:03:12,755 Speaker 1: but maybe you should call him. Here's his phone number. 939 01:03:12,875 --> 01:03:15,675 Speaker 1: What am I going to do about this? My great 940 01:03:15,675 --> 01:03:18,435 Speaker 1: regret that I didn't make those calls anyway. I walked 941 01:03:18,435 --> 01:03:21,115 Speaker 1: into my office at the RKO Radio Network on Saturday, 942 01:03:21,195 --> 01:03:24,315 Speaker 1: July eighteenth, nineteen eighty one, and the wires were full 943 01:03:24,355 --> 01:03:28,915 Speaker 1: of stories about the disaster in Kansas City. The baseball 944 01:03:29,075 --> 01:03:31,555 Speaker 1: strike was in full flower in the middle of July 945 01:03:31,675 --> 01:03:33,755 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one, and most of the members of the 946 01:03:33,835 --> 01:03:35,915 Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals, or a lot of them at least, 947 01:03:35,915 --> 01:03:39,435 Speaker 1: including the pitcher Rich Gale, were serving as celebrity bartenders 948 01:03:39,475 --> 01:03:42,835 Speaker 1: at a charity event in the lobby of a Hyatt 949 01:03:42,835 --> 01:03:46,835 Speaker 1: Regency in Kansas City on the night of July seventeenth Friday, 950 01:03:46,915 --> 01:03:50,875 Speaker 1: July seventeenth, nineteen eighty one, when one of the walkways 951 01:03:50,955 --> 01:03:53,795 Speaker 1: began to collapse. It began to pull down the walkway 952 01:03:53,835 --> 01:03:55,995 Speaker 1: from which it was hung, and then part of the ceiling, 953 01:03:56,035 --> 01:03:58,595 Speaker 1: and on the way down it knocked down parts of 954 01:03:58,755 --> 01:04:03,715 Speaker 1: other pieces of the superstructure above the lobby. One one 955 01:04:03,795 --> 01:04:07,075 Speaker 1: hundred and four teen people were killed. And I remember 956 01:04:07,115 --> 01:04:11,755 Speaker 1: to this day the agonized interview with rich Gail, the 957 01:04:11,835 --> 01:04:14,955 Speaker 1: Kansas City Royals pitcher, a big guy for the time, 958 01:04:14,995 --> 01:04:18,355 Speaker 1: about six', six who said that the first thing he 959 01:04:18,395 --> 01:04:21,995 Speaker 1: did was try to move these, giant multi ton blocks 960 01:04:22,475 --> 01:04:27,595 Speaker 1: of concrete off still living, victims and being an, athlete 961 01:04:27,595 --> 01:04:29,275 Speaker 1: figuring that he and a few of his friends could 962 01:04:29,275 --> 01:04:31,395 Speaker 1: do it and they could not even budge the. THING 963 01:04:32,515 --> 01:04:34,875 Speaker 1: i think it changed his life. UTTERLY i think it 964 01:04:34,995 --> 01:04:38,755 Speaker 1: basically ended his career as a viable baseball. Pitcher it 965 01:04:38,795 --> 01:04:41,955 Speaker 1: certainly caused him, struggles AND i know he succeeded in 966 01:04:42,035 --> 01:04:44,075 Speaker 1: staying in the game and becoming a, coach but he 967 01:04:44,155 --> 01:04:46,955 Speaker 1: was affected in a. Way you could hear instantaneously in the, 968 01:04:46,995 --> 01:04:49,235 Speaker 1: interviews and we covered the story AND i left my 969 01:04:49,315 --> 01:04:52,515 Speaker 1: father out of. It but my father had predicted it 970 01:04:52,675 --> 01:04:56,475 Speaker 1: down to the fact that there would be people, killed 971 01:04:56,595 --> 01:04:59,755 Speaker 1: that there would be such large pieces of debris coming 972 01:04:59,755 --> 01:05:01,755 Speaker 1: from the ceiling because they had not hung the thing. 973 01:05:01,835 --> 01:05:05,995 Speaker 1: Successfully the, designer AS i found out of this, disaster 974 01:05:06,395 --> 01:05:11,395 Speaker 1: then became a lecturer on disasters in bad, architecture of 975 01:05:11,435 --> 01:05:15,355 Speaker 1: which he was responsible, for instead of going to. Prison 976 01:05:17,355 --> 01:05:20,715 Speaker 1: so this all came back to mind that my father Was. 977 01:05:22,595 --> 01:05:27,115 Speaker 1: Cassandra my father was the guy who arrived, saying the 978 01:05:27,155 --> 01:05:29,715 Speaker 1: next person you hear from will be the angel of. 979 01:05:29,795 --> 01:05:32,075 Speaker 1: Death maybe you want to get out of, here maybe 980 01:05:32,155 --> 01:05:33,675 Speaker 1: you want to fix, this maybe you want to have 981 01:05:33,715 --> 01:05:37,675 Speaker 1: another look at your. MATH i, mean there were lots 982 01:05:37,675 --> 01:05:39,995 Speaker 1: of disasters that my dad did not, predict like the 983 01:05:40,035 --> 01:05:42,595 Speaker 1: time that The City Corps center In New york almost 984 01:05:42,635 --> 01:05:45,035 Speaker 1: blew over in a wind because they realized at the 985 01:05:45,115 --> 01:05:48,235 Speaker 1: last minute that the slanted ten story roof they'd put 986 01:05:48,235 --> 01:05:51,435 Speaker 1: on the thing it hit directly by hurricane, forces would 987 01:05:51,515 --> 01:05:54,715 Speaker 1: topple the entire top half of the building Onto Midtown, 988 01:05:54,755 --> 01:05:57,355 Speaker 1: manhattan and they were just lucky that it hit. Differently 989 01:05:58,115 --> 01:06:00,155 Speaker 1: he didn't see that. Coming but of course he wasn't 990 01:06:00,155 --> 01:06:02,955 Speaker 1: in the civic The. Hartford he was only in The hartford. 991 01:06:02,995 --> 01:06:04,875 Speaker 1: Place he was only in The Kansas city. Place he 992 01:06:04,955 --> 01:06:07,955 Speaker 1: was not in The City Corps. Center but that was 993 01:06:07,955 --> 01:06:10,515 Speaker 1: WHAT i was reminded of AS i looked at this. 994 01:06:10,635 --> 01:06:17,475 Speaker 1: Piece this was the roof under which for thirty four, 995 01:06:17,555 --> 01:06:21,275 Speaker 1: years thirty five, years people. Assembled many TIMES i went 996 01:06:21,315 --> 01:06:24,355 Speaker 1: there myself and did ball games from and did coverage, 997 01:06:24,355 --> 01:06:26,755 Speaker 1: from and my friends who owned The Tampa Bay, rays 998 01:06:26,955 --> 01:06:28,755 Speaker 1: and all the players THAT i, knew and all the 999 01:06:28,835 --> 01:06:30,835 Speaker 1: announcers THAT i knew who worked, there and all the 1000 01:06:30,915 --> 01:06:33,955 Speaker 1: visiting announcers all went in under this. Roof and thank 1001 01:06:34,035 --> 01:06:38,115 Speaker 1: god that when what my father would have, said do 1002 01:06:38,115 --> 01:06:42,075 Speaker 1: you have any GAMES i planned At Tropicana, field whatever you, 1003 01:06:42,115 --> 01:06:44,475 Speaker 1: do don't go. There that main a hurricane going to 1004 01:06:44,515 --> 01:06:46,675 Speaker 1: take that effing roof right. Off and then you know, 1005 01:06:46,795 --> 01:06:50,035 Speaker 1: WHAT i bet it winds up as a souvenir somewhere 1006 01:06:50,155 --> 01:06:52,875 Speaker 1: in your. Collection that'll probably cut up the. Roof knowing 1007 01:06:52,875 --> 01:06:54,875 Speaker 1: your friends who owned the, team they'll be smart enough 1008 01:06:54,995 --> 01:06:57,155 Speaker 1: to take what's left of this fabric roof and sell. 1009 01:06:57,195 --> 01:06:59,755 Speaker 1: IT i would put the price at like ten. Dollars 1010 01:07:00,115 --> 01:07:17,235 Speaker 1: knowing your, friends they'll probably charge. Fifteen i've done all 1011 01:07:17,275 --> 01:07:22,275 Speaker 1: the DAMAGE i can do. Here nature and physics do the. 1012 01:07:22,315 --> 01:07:26,115 Speaker 1: Rest thank you for. Listening and, yes there are, people 1013 01:07:26,235 --> 01:07:30,275 Speaker 1: particularly from my college, days who remember my dad's prediction 1014 01:07:30,395 --> 01:07:33,155 Speaker 1: because the one about The Hartford Civic CENTER i had 1015 01:07:33,155 --> 01:07:35,755 Speaker 1: to share BECAUSE i, asked AND i asked At Cornell Sports, 1016 01:07:35,795 --> 01:07:38,475 Speaker 1: information do we have any games In hartford this? Year? 1017 01:07:38,795 --> 01:07:41,315 Speaker 1: NO i, said, okay, good because my, dad the, architect 1018 01:07:41,395 --> 01:07:42,795 Speaker 1: just said the roof's going to come down one. 1019 01:07:42,875 --> 01:07:43,035 Speaker 2: Night. 1020 01:07:45,435 --> 01:07:50,155 Speaker 1: Unbelievable my dad was not, Psychic he was not the 1021 01:07:50,195 --> 01:07:53,515 Speaker 1: harbinger of the angel of. Death he just paid real 1022 01:07:53,555 --> 01:07:55,915 Speaker 1: attention to the things that he hated most and the 1023 01:07:55,955 --> 01:07:57,875 Speaker 1: work he hated doing the. Most as he used to 1024 01:07:57,875 --> 01:08:00,475 Speaker 1: say to, me you're good at this. Work hardist on 1025 01:08:00,595 --> 01:08:03,035 Speaker 1: the things you're not good, at and that's why we 1026 01:08:03,155 --> 01:08:08,155 Speaker 1: have this. Podcast do you Think i'm happy doing this every? Week? 1027 01:08:08,675 --> 01:08:10,835 Speaker 1: Then do you Think i'm happy doing? This there are 1028 01:08:10,915 --> 01:08:15,515 Speaker 1: many glories to getting this, done and there are many, positive, 1029 01:08:15,835 --> 01:08:21,275 Speaker 1: warming life validating and affirming moments in knowing that you appreciate, 1030 01:08:21,355 --> 01:08:24,195 Speaker 1: This but do you think it's? Enjoyable which do you 1031 01:08:24,195 --> 01:08:27,235 Speaker 1: think is more enjoyable this podcast or writing up the 1032 01:08:27,275 --> 01:08:30,955 Speaker 1: histories of The Detroit tigers and The Saint Louis cardinals 1033 01:08:30,955 --> 01:08:35,875 Speaker 1: for their pregame. SHOW i think that question answers itself 1034 01:08:36,875 --> 01:08:41,235 Speaker 1: enough do the. Math Brian ray And John Phillip, shanelle 1035 01:08:41,275 --> 01:08:44,355 Speaker 1: the musical, directors Have Countdown arrange produced and performed most 1036 01:08:44,355 --> 01:08:48,075 Speaker 1: of our. Music Mister chanelle handled orchestration and. Keyboards Mister 1037 01:08:48,195 --> 01:08:50,595 Speaker 1: ray was on the, guitars bass and. Drums it was 1038 01:08:50,595 --> 01:08:53,835 Speaker 1: produced BY Tko. Brothers my dad did once say to, 1039 01:08:53,875 --> 01:08:56,635 Speaker 1: me at sort of the height of THE msnbc, experience 1040 01:08:56,995 --> 01:08:58,995 Speaker 1: WHEN i said that much of the stuff THAT i 1041 01:08:59,075 --> 01:09:02,635 Speaker 1: STUDIED i hated studying and really was dedicated to, it 1042 01:09:02,675 --> 01:09:06,155 Speaker 1: only because he told me this year before to pay 1043 01:09:06,315 --> 01:09:10,275 Speaker 1: special attention to the STUFF i, hated paying special attention 1044 01:09:10,395 --> 01:09:12,435 Speaker 1: to to do the hard work on the stuff that 1045 01:09:12,515 --> 01:09:15,755 Speaker 1: was really hard and. Work he teared up and he, 1046 01:09:15,835 --> 01:09:20,075 Speaker 1: SAID i taught you. SOMETHING i, said, YEAH i also 1047 01:09:20,195 --> 01:09:23,475 Speaker 1: always check the hanging walkways WHENEVER i go into a. 1048 01:09:23,475 --> 01:09:28,475 Speaker 1: Hotel god help. Us our satirical and pithy musical comments 1049 01:09:28,475 --> 01:09:31,635 Speaker 1: are by the best baseball stadium organists. Ever Nancy faust 1050 01:09:31,715 --> 01:09:34,435 Speaker 1: now back doing cameos with The White, sox or as 1051 01:09:34,475 --> 01:09:38,075 Speaker 1: they are now, known saluting both The pope And chicago's crime. 1052 01:09:38,195 --> 01:09:44,995 Speaker 1: History The leo polls and. Lobes all, right that's a tasteless, 1053 01:09:45,035 --> 01:09:48,155 Speaker 1: joke but a good. One the sports music is The 1054 01:09:48,195 --> 01:09:51,635 Speaker 1: ulberman theme FROM espn, two written By Mitch Warren davis 1055 01:09:51,675 --> 01:09:55,235 Speaker 1: courtesy OF, Espn. Inc other music arranged and performed By 1056 01:09:55,275 --> 01:09:58,315 Speaker 1: No Horns. Allowed my announcer today was my Friend Larry. 1057 01:09:58,395 --> 01:10:03,195 Speaker 1: David everything was as ever other than. That my fault 1058 01:10:04,795 --> 01:10:07,515 Speaker 1: not the roof collapse. HERE i, MEAN i swear you 1059 01:10:07,555 --> 01:10:09,795 Speaker 1: could roll this thing, up AND i don't. THINK i, 1060 01:10:09,875 --> 01:10:13,755 Speaker 1: mean of all the, things this looks. Like this piece 1061 01:10:13,795 --> 01:10:15,755 Speaker 1: of the, roof a piece of a, roof is not 1062 01:10:15,875 --> 01:10:16,435 Speaker 1: what it looks? 1063 01:10:16,515 --> 01:10:18,435 Speaker 3: Like is? 1064 01:10:18,475 --> 01:10:21,235 Speaker 1: That for a? Tautology that's countdown for, today day one 1065 01:10:21,275 --> 01:10:24,475 Speaker 1: to twenty three Of america sitting under the roof at 1066 01:10:24,515 --> 01:10:29,395 Speaker 1: The Higatt regency or The Hartford Civic. Center just forty 1067 01:10:29,475 --> 01:10:31,635 Speaker 1: days until the scheduled end of his lame duck and 1068 01:10:31,715 --> 01:10:35,115 Speaker 1: lame brain, term Unless putin removes him, sooner or the 1069 01:10:35,115 --> 01:10:39,515 Speaker 1: actuarial tables, do or we. Do the next scheduled countdown Is, 1070 01:10:39,595 --> 01:10:43,755 Speaker 1: monday as always bulletins as the news. Warrants remember he 1071 01:10:43,835 --> 01:10:47,315 Speaker 1: is laying the groundwork now to not leave office. Later 1072 01:10:47,675 --> 01:10:50,915 Speaker 1: he must be. Stopped we must get out from under 1073 01:10:50,995 --> 01:10:54,875 Speaker 1: this roof until next. Time I'm keith oulteran good, morning good, 1074 01:10:54,915 --> 01:11:08,795 Speaker 1: afternoon good, night and good. 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