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Speaker 2: Oh hey, welcome to lying seasoned ladies and gentlemen. You

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Speaker 2: are already on a ride that you don't even know

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Speaker 2: you're on. Keep your hands tucked close to your sides,

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Speaker 2: keep them inside because this ride can get a little

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Speaker 2: hot and heavy. Just a little word of the wise.

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Speaker 2: Here's a little trick, especially you ladies out there. But guys,

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Speaker 2: you two. When people answer a question with another question,

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Speaker 2: it's because they're trying to buy time with their answer. Hey,

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Speaker 2: where were you tonight? Where was I tonight? That means

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Speaker 2: you're trying to buy time. That means you know you're

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Speaker 2: being lied to. Now let's transfer it, Aaron Torres over

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Speaker 2: to NBA free agency. Have you noticed that none of

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Speaker 2: the things that we've been told are about to happen

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Speaker 2: for two weeks have happened. Like for me, this has

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Speaker 2: become the new key if I see it on Twitter

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Speaker 2: a week before. I mean here in the Bay Area,

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Speaker 2: we've been hearing Klay Thompson to the Orlando Magic for

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Speaker 2: two months, two months, and that's why they just signed

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Speaker 2: Kentavious Caldwell Pope. Because if it's out there, that just

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Speaker 2: means somebody's trying to twist somebody else's arm, not that

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Speaker 2: it's actually about to happen.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, and welcome to lying season.

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Speaker 4: So two things.

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Speaker 5: One, I was actually gonna lead the show by talking

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Speaker 5: about the thing that I respect in life more than

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Speaker 5: anything is a man or woman of their word. And

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Speaker 5: Mark Willard promised America last week that at some point

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Speaker 5: in the future Aaron Torres would be lucky enough to

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Speaker 5: do another show with him. So thank you Mark Willard

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Speaker 5: for putting it out into the universe, for making that happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: my word, Yes, unlikely. You know, No, you are unlike

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Speaker 5: a lot of these NBA gms. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 5: it's it's it's crazy because we've been doing this for

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Speaker 5: so long. It's like you just you can just he

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Speaker 5: through some stuff, you know, and we're going to talk

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Speaker 5: about you know, Bronnie James, Oh, you know, don't don't

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Speaker 5: pick my guy, Rich Paul Says or or you know

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Speaker 5: Rob Pualink and no, he's got all this upside is

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Speaker 5: it's like, no, let's just get to the real you

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Speaker 5: know what do they say the brass tacks of what

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Speaker 5: the real story is? And I think that's absolutely the case.

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Speaker 5: In free agency as well. As you said, there's a

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Speaker 5: lot of stuff that gets floated out generally it is

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Speaker 5: to it's to benefit somebody specifically in free agency.

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Speaker 4: You gotta be careful what you believe.

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Speaker 5: And we are obviously just getting started to hear a

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Speaker 5: couple hours into the free agency period.

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Speaker 2: Well, and we're going to be all over it as

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Speaker 2: the breaking news, no doubt comes down and and so

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Speaker 2: you know kind of the headlines of the day. You've

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Speaker 2: already heard some of it from Steve right there. James

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Speaker 2: Harden is going to stay or waiting for for bigger stuff.

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Speaker 2: There's been the report at least that Zach Lavine in

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Speaker 2: the first round pick were offered to the Warriors for

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Speaker 2: Chris Paul and Andrew Wiggins. The Warriors reportedly turned it down.

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Speaker 2: Chris Paul has been released, so the Warriors getting nothing

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Speaker 2: for that contract. More to come throughout the next three hours,

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Speaker 2: for sure. Listen, I get it. It takes me a

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Speaker 2: minute too, it absolutely does. We spent the whole week

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Speaker 2: here in San Francisco talking about the possibility of Paul George,

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Speaker 2: and the Athletic has reported that at times yesterday morning,

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Speaker 2: the Warriors thought they were on the verge of acquiring

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Speaker 2: Paul George in a sign and trade. But in the end,

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Speaker 2: Paul just ends up opting out of his contract, becoming

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Speaker 2: a free agent.

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Speaker 3: Now he's only talking to salary cap teams.

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Speaker 2: And it dawned on me yesterday on the way to

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Speaker 2: my show, I go, why on earth are.

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Speaker 3: We being told?

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Speaker 2: Why are we being told every step of the way,

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Speaker 2: Like Paul George is gonna opt in he want to

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Speaker 2: join the Warriors, here's who the Warriors would have to

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Speaker 2: go back in trade. I'm like, while we're discussing all that,

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Speaker 2: de Jontay Murray goes from the Hawks to the Pelicans,

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Speaker 2: and everyone went, WHOA Where'd that come from? And I thought, exactly,

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Speaker 2: that's how that's how people in big business operate. You

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Speaker 2: don't call everybody first and let everybody know what you're

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Speaker 2: about to do. That simply means that someone's trying to

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Speaker 2: put pressure on someone else. And I just think that

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Speaker 2: the whole Paul George Clippers thing was a game of chicken,

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Speaker 2: and each side is calling each other's bluff, and it

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Speaker 2: the next calling of the bluff, and the game of

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Speaker 2: poker continues, and and there's a real good chance it

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Speaker 5: Would be my bet, is Paul George you're talking about yes,

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Speaker 5: well you know, let me let's we don't have to

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Speaker 5: start there. But since you brought them up, I find

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Speaker 5: that whole situation weird. And maybe it just is a

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Speaker 5: big game of chicken, because you know, listen, Paul George

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Speaker 5: thirty four years old, this is probably the last big

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Speaker 5: bite at an apple that you're gonna get in his career.

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Speaker 5: I found it weird though, that they're so they being

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Speaker 5: the Clippers are being so weird about the fourth year,

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Speaker 5: and this is according to all the reporting. Why you know,

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Speaker 5: why Paul George has opted out of the contract and

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Speaker 5: you know, wanted to at least see what else is

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Speaker 5: out there. Is Like I just feel like when you

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Speaker 5: give Kawhi the extension that you gave him whatever it

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Speaker 5: just feels like those two guys are kind of tied

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Speaker 5: you're committing to Paul or to Kawhi Leonard for this window,

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Speaker 5: I don't understand why you wantn't be with Paul George

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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 4: But maybe to your point.

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Speaker 5: Willard, it is just kind of a ploy to whatever,

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Speaker 5: whether it's for Paul George to see what else is

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Speaker 5: out there, for Paul George to force the Clippers to

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Speaker 5: give him that extra year, whatever it is, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I just find the Paul George one specifically very interesting.

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Speaker 5: I also find him interesting because, well, I don't think

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Speaker 5: he's a quote unquote superstar. I do think he can

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Speaker 5: obviously help some of those teams that he has reportedly

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Speaker 5: been interested in speaking with, including the Philadelphia seventy six ers,

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Speaker 5: et cetera. But I just find his situation specifically very interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, all all of it is.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just sitting here at a point where I

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Speaker 2: keep an eye on everything that Twitter wants to tell

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Speaker 2: us and then try to put it through a filter. Like,

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Speaker 2: for instance, you've also heard a lot about like you've

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Speaker 2: heard that the Bulls are trying to give Zach Lavine away. Okay,

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Speaker 2: why is that out there? Who would say that? Who

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Speaker 2: wants that out there? At the same time, you've heard

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Speaker 2: Klay Thompson's definitely leaving.

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Speaker 3: I can confirm.

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Speaker 2: That that's real but I'll give you a piece of

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Speaker 2: that that I don't believe, and I guarantee you it

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Speaker 2: leads to something that you'd love to comment on. Let

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Speaker 2: me actually form it in a question. Do you Aaron

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Speaker 2: Torres believe, especially after the week that we've had, do

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Speaker 2: you believe that quote Lebron James opted out because he's

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Speaker 2: willing to take less money in.

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Speaker 3: Order to acquire another player to the Lakers.

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Speaker 5: So that listen, I mean listen, I believe it, but

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Speaker 5: only because Rich Paul literally went on the record with

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Speaker 5: Adrian Wodronowski yesterday and said that obviously, look, you know

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Speaker 5: there was two schools of thought when that decision was made.

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Speaker 5: One is it to set up a new contract where

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Speaker 5: he does have a no trade clause where he actually

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Speaker 5: has a.

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Speaker 4: Little bit more power.

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Speaker 5: The only reason that I do believe it's at least possible,

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Speaker 5: Rich Paul told ESPN on Saturday, he being Lebron is

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Speaker 5: prioritizing a roster improvement. He's been adamant about zooing all

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Speaker 5: efforts to improve the roster. He had a couple other

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Speaker 5: quotes there that doesn't directly say that he's willing to

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Speaker 5: take less money, but it seems like it's at least on.

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Speaker 4: The table willing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear a crazy Okay, you're not You're not

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Speaker 3: You're not crazy.

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Speaker 2: But I would argue that at least a piece of

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Speaker 2: that is is is pr sure and and and Rich Paul.

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Speaker 2: That's part of what Rich Paul does. Of course, it's

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Speaker 2: pr like in other words, and this is what I

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Speaker 2: do every time I see something on Twitter. Why do

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Speaker 2: we get to know that, Yep, Lebron wants to take

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Speaker 2: less money, Lebron wants Klay Thompson or Valentiunis or whoever

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Speaker 2: Lebron wants? Right, is that what I'm supposed to understand?

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Speaker 2: Why do we get to know that?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 5: And this is an important point, and I think a

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Speaker 5: lot of fans understand that, but I I think also

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Speaker 5: there are a lot of fans that still don't understand that,

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Speaker 5: that take things at face value. And you have to

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Speaker 5: be able to kind of put the puzzle pieces together.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying everybody has to figure out the truth

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Speaker 5: behind every story, but again, in general, as you said,

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Speaker 5: when people put stuff out there, they want it out there.

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Speaker 5: I'll be quick. I've used this example a million times

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Speaker 5: on these airwaves. So forgive me if you heard me

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Speaker 5: this before. Dan Hurley to the Lakers, okape. On the surface,

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Speaker 5: it's like, well, I mean you just you don't turn

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Speaker 5: down the Lakers if they call. But then you start

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Speaker 5: peeling back the layers and it's like, well, wait a second,

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Speaker 5: he hasn't gotten his deal done the Lakers. You know,

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Speaker 5: they're getting a little bit of pushback because Sham's just

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Speaker 5: a day or two before has reported that JJ Reddick

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Speaker 5: is going to accept this job when the finals are over.

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Speaker 5: JJ Reddick won't comment on his future, and I said

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Speaker 5: all along, it's like, well, if there was nothing to

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Speaker 5: comment on, then you would say there's nothing to comment on,

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Speaker 5: But he said, I'll address my future after the final.

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Speaker 5: So I just use that as a very baseline example

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Speaker 5: of exactly what you said. Now, maybe that one's a

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Speaker 5: little bit different because Dan Hurley flew to La met

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Speaker 5: with the Lakers. How serious with he was either side?

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Speaker 5: Only the two respective sides. No, But when you peel

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Speaker 5: back the layers, it's like, there's probably not quite as

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Speaker 5: much to this as people want you to believe. And

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Speaker 5: it's probably the same with a Klay Thompson, with a

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Speaker 5: Paul George with whoever, Paul you know, Klay Thompson, it's oh,

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Speaker 5: you know, Dallas is almost done. Then it was a

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Speaker 5: report yesterday that the Lakers could be a factor. Now

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Speaker 5: obviously we have an expanded list of teams. So I

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Speaker 5: guess the point that I am trying to make, Willard

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Speaker 5: is I'm just you know, solidifying and confirming what you're saying,

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Speaker 5: which is when something gets out, especially to your point,

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Speaker 5: weeks in advance of anything being able to happen, you

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Speaker 5: as a fan, me, you as a a commentator, got

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Speaker 5: you gotta sit back and say, wait a second. Now,

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Speaker 5: to your point, there has to be a reason this

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Speaker 5: is getting out as early as it is.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I would argue that every time the world

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Speaker 2: starts going way too far and by the way, you're

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Speaker 2: not but way too far for his taste down the

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Speaker 2: road of well, Lebron runs the team that he plays for.

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Speaker 3: Whenever that opinion gets really hot.

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Speaker 2: And this week it's been really hot, yes, sir, whenever

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Speaker 2: that happens. Oh, there's some sort of story that comes

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Speaker 2: out that makes it look like Lebron has had a

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Speaker 2: softer stance within the organization. And boy, he's there to

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Speaker 2: just be a good teammate and kind of get out

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Speaker 3: It's like, it's like clockwork.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm not even saying that it's wrong or

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Speaker 5: And there's plenty of time to talk about everything that's

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Speaker 2: It means that the Clippers are not telling Aaron Mints

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Speaker 4: Good to hear you both.

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Speaker 7: And you can officially say the Clippers are parting ways

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Speaker 7: We will miss Paul. At the same time, we're excited

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Speaker 7: by the opportunity we've now been afforded, including greater flexibility

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Speaker 7: under the new CBA. Eric Gordon has agreed to a

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Speaker 7: deal with the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Also from Philly News,

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Speaker 7: they're going to be signing Andre Drummond. As far as

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Speaker 7: the Clippers earlier Today, it was announced James Harden will

444
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Speaker 7: be resigning two years seventy mil now. Paul George opted

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Speaker 7: out of his contract. He's to be a free agent.

446
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Speaker 7: He's not resigning with the Clippers. He is due to

447
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Speaker 7: talk to Philly tonight. Golden State Wave Chris Paul Orlando

448
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Speaker 7: agreed to a three year deal with Contavious Caldwell Pope.

449
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Speaker 7: The Pacers are resigning Obi Topp into a four year contract.

450
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Speaker 7: Miami resigned Kevin Love. The new salary cap, by the way,

451
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Speaker 7: about one hundred and forty million dollars per team. The

452
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Speaker 7: NBA free agency negotiating windows started today. The new league

453
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Speaker 7: year opens this Saturday, and the Summer league starts July

454
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Speaker 7: twelfth in Las Vegas. It's July tomorrow, people. The Pistons

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Speaker 7: new head coach, Yeah, that is crazy. The new head

456
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Speaker 7: coach of Detroit will be JB. Bickerstaff on a reported

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Speaker 7: five year contract. He had just been let co by

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Speaker 7: Cleveland and the WNBA. Among the three games, Indiana won

459
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Speaker 7: at Phoenix eighty eight to eighty two, and as far

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Speaker 7: as MLB action, the Texas Rangers are trying to end

461
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Speaker 7: a six game losing streak. They are leading at Baltimore

462
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Speaker 7: five to two in the top of the fifth. Orioles

463
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Speaker 7: have one four to one in a row. Amazing stat.

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Speaker 7: As we end the month of June, fifteen guys on

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Speaker 7: the Orioles have had played appearances this month. All of

466
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Speaker 7: them have homered. You added up it's sixty home runs

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Speaker 7: in the month of June for Baltimore. Atlanta apparently had

468
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Speaker 7: sixty one as a team a year ago in June,

469
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Speaker 7: the record for any month. The Yankees in twenty nineteen

470
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Speaker 7: had seventy four homers in a calendar month. August of

471
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Speaker 7: twenty nineteen, San Francisco pounded the Dodgers ten to four.

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Speaker 7: Houston in eleven innings, beat the Mets in New York

473
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Speaker 7: ten to five. Detroit got a win in Anaheim seven

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Speaker 7: to six over the Angels, Minnesota a five to three

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Speaker 7: victory at Seattle, Arizona over Oakland five to one. MLB

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Speaker 7: changed the rules for this month's home Run Derby. For example,

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Speaker 7: the first round or first round matchups will not be

478
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Speaker 7: head to head. They'll just have the eight guys go

479
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Speaker 7: and take the top five. It is official that Gunner

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Speaker 7: Henderson of the Orioles has been announced as the first

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Speaker 7: guy going into the home run Derby, which is only

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Speaker 7: a couple of weeks away here.

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Speaker 3: As we head toward July.

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Speaker 7: In Copa America, Mexico is playing Ecuador right now on

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Speaker 7: Fox in Arizona. It is scoreless through thirty two minutes.

486
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Speaker 7: Mexico must win to advance. Brazil's group finale is Tuesday.

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Speaker 7: The US plays Monday night and will likely need to beat,

488
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Speaker 7: not tie, first place Uruguay to advance. That'll be Monday

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Speaker 7: night on FS one from Kansas City. The US and

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Speaker 7: Panama in that group are tied for second place each

491
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Speaker 7: with one win and one loss, but Panama gets to

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Speaker 7: play last place Bolivia on Monday in Orlando. Bolivia has

493
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Speaker 7: lost fourteen straight Copa America matches dating back to twenty fifteen.

494
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Speaker 7: Even if the US advances, its quarterfinal would likely be

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Speaker 7: against Brazil or Columbia Saturday in Arizona.

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Speaker 4: So Mark as.

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Speaker 7: Our that's our evening co host during the week. Jason

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Speaker 7: Smith said there are some US men's soccer fans who

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Speaker 7: we'll be hate watching the game tomorrow because although they

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Speaker 7: might be crashing out early from this tournament, perhaps US

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Speaker 7: Soccer will finally wise up and get rid of coach

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Speaker 7: Greg Burholter, while there's still some time to do something

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Speaker 7: about it, because the US is going to be co

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Speaker 7: hosting the World Cup in a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: Back to you, yeah, yeah, don't do not do not

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Speaker 2: have a repeat performance then, But then again, I always

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Speaker 2: we could take two minutes on this. I always laugh

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Speaker 2: at this. I know that soccer is the biggest sport

509
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Speaker 2: in the world. I know that it's growing in America

510
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Speaker 2: at an unprecedented pace. And I know how many of

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Speaker 2: you listening to my voice right now care.

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Speaker 3: I know, but also we don't care.

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Speaker 2: Like compare this experience to if this were to happen

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Speaker 2: in any of these other nations.

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Speaker 7: Almost like England almost eliminated today, right.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just funny to me, Like we get we

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Speaker 2: get super into it when the tournaments come, when the

518
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Speaker 2: big tournaments come, we get super into it. And I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of you no no, no, I'll watch

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Speaker 2: every week, but the national teams, we get very into it.

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Speaker 2: And then when they lose in disappointing fashion, we eat.

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Speaker 3: That That's what we do.

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Speaker 2: We just we go get food and we don't we

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Speaker 2: don't riot, we don't cry. We eat and and so

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Speaker 2: that's why We're different and and always will be, quite frankly.

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Speaker 7: And to have a variety of sports in your life,

527
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Speaker 7: I would say is healthy. And then you don't live

528
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Speaker 7: or die, especially the latter with one team.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's the beauty of Philadelphia sports fans is whenever

530
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Speaker 2: a season starts to go bad, they start chanting the

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Speaker 2: name of the next team to play right there in

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Speaker 2: the ballpark or on the ice or wherever they are.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Steve appreciates you, Live tyreck dot com Studios, Mark Weather,

535
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Speaker 2: Aaron Torres here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: So for some reason, my friend.

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Speaker 2: The NBA draft situation where a bunch of players were

538
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Speaker 2: taken that no one's heard of, and then with the

539
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Speaker 2: fifty to fifth pick in the middle of the afternoon,

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the week, the name Bronnie James

541
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Speaker 2: was uttered and finally we had something that we could

542
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Speaker 2: sink our teeth into. And it turned into a national

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Speaker 2: conversation about nepotism. And I thought that was interesting because

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Speaker 2: I thought nepotism was like fifth or sixth on my topeboard.

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Speaker 2: Sure in terms of what matter and what well actually

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Speaker 2: took place.

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Speaker 5: Well, it goes back to what do we leave the

548
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Speaker 5: show with what is the message that Lebron's camp wants

549
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Speaker 5: out and is going to get delivered through the media

550
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Speaker 5: that covers the NBA draft. Well, I mean, if you're

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Speaker 5: gonna get mad at Bronnie, you better get mad at

552
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Speaker 5: every NBA owner that has inherited the team from their father.

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Speaker 5: It's like, Okay, I sort of get it, but they

554
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Speaker 5: really aren't the same. But I do think that's you know, listen,

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Speaker 5: I'm maybe I'm dead wrong. I don't think Woje would

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Speaker 5: come up with that, uh you know, that dictation, whatever

557
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Speaker 5: it was, that that monologue that he came up with,

558
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Speaker 5: if somebody hadn't planted that bug in his ears. So

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Speaker 5: I think it all goes back to what we've been

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Speaker 5: talking about with free agency. Somebody wanted that message out there, Hey,

561
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Speaker 5: you can't get Bye. By the way, don't be mad at Bronnie,

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Speaker 5: And I agree with that. I'm not mad at Bronnie.

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Speaker 5: Brownie's just a nineteen year old kid who has a

564
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Speaker 5: famous father and his father pulled some strings for him.

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Speaker 5: That happens every walk of life. Does it mean that

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Speaker 5: we can't be upset at nepotism? Doesn't mean we can't

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Speaker 5: be upset at the Lakers in using what I still

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Speaker 5: believe is a valuable asset on a player that cannot

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Speaker 5: help them next year. And of course we also know

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Speaker 5: what it's going to lead to, which is a you know,

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Speaker 5: whatever you want to call what it's going to be

572
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Speaker 5: when when those two.

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Speaker 4: Actually take the court, you know, is it going to

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Speaker 4: be cool? Is it not going to be cool?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but you are going to have a

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Speaker 5: non NBA caliber player likely playing at least a handful

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Speaker 5: of minutes next year for the Los Angeles Lakers.

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Speaker 2: There is news of another signing. We'll pass it along

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Speaker 2: here in just a second, but first I want to

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Speaker 2: thank you for something. I want to thank you for

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Speaker 2: doing something I don't think I've heard anybody else do

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Speaker 2: across the nation. When it comes to the Bronni James pick.

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Speaker 2: You just referred to the fifty to fifth pick in

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Speaker 2: the draft as a quote valuable asset.

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Speaker 4: Or asset maybe not, maybe not super valuable.

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Speaker 3: It's not at stay right where you are. I think

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Speaker 3: you're doing great. Thank you, valuable asset.

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Speaker 2: I have reached the point of frustration with how many

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Speaker 2: people are.

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Speaker 3: Like, ah, fifty fifth pick, who cares? Why does that

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Speaker 3: even matter?

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Speaker 2: First of all, I could give you a ton of

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Speaker 2: second round picks who matter in the NBA. But secondly,

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Speaker 2: even if I couldn't, even if it was only a

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Speaker 2: one in one hundred shot, aren't you supposed to take

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Speaker 2: that shot. Aren't you supposed to try to find a player,

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Speaker 2: like try to find a player as opposed to kicking

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Speaker 2: the whole thing and acting like second round picks don't matter.

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Speaker 2: And I'd argue, if that was the truth, why did

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Speaker 2: teams even show up for that day? Why are they there?

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Speaker 2: It's a bad draft already and now we're late in

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Speaker 2: the second round.

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Speaker 3: Boy, we wasted a lot of people's time.

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Speaker 5: So I and that's that is something that that was

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Speaker 5: I think to me, probably my biggest takeaway from Thursday was.

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Speaker 4: Lebron.

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Speaker 5: You know, if you want to do something to help

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Speaker 5: your child move along in life, that's fine. There's thousands

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Speaker 5: of parents that do it across the country every single day.

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Speaker 5: But to the conversation that we sort of had a

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Speaker 5: minute ago with with his contract, you also just can't

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Speaker 5: say you're about winning at the highest level. You're about winning,

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Speaker 5: but it's on your terms. Well, we gotta draft my

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Speaker 5: son and we gotta take my buddy as the head

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Speaker 5: coach and whatever, and that's what it is is. You know,

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Speaker 5: this isn't the Brooklyn Nets that are clear. Listen, I

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Speaker 5: don't think bronni is go ever going to be a

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Speaker 5: valuable NBA player, but it's not out of the realm

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Speaker 5: of possibility. But I think even Lebron James and his

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Speaker 5: camp will say it's probably not next season. Well, the

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Speaker 5: issue becomes, you have a forty year old star, if

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Speaker 5: you still want to call him that, who obviously has

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Speaker 5: a very limited shelf life left, and every decision should

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Speaker 5: be based on what can we do to maximize the

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Speaker 5: next year to two while we still have this guy.

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Speaker 5: And so that's pretty much my biggest takeaway is like,

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Speaker 5: do what you want, Lakers, Lebron, whatever, It's not my pick.

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Speaker 5: But again, you can't say you're about winning at the

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Speaker 5: highest level. Went to your point, Willard, there are guys

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Speaker 5: in the history of the draft that are that that

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Speaker 5: are taken late in the second round. I believe Fred

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Speaker 5: van Vliet was the last pick of the draft the

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Speaker 5: year that he came out, just as an example that

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Speaker 5: can provide value, and I think even the James camp

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Speaker 5: would admit that Bronni probably won't provide all that much

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Speaker 5: next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah we can.

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Speaker 2: We can bounce around the league to the Jalen Brunsons

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Speaker 2: and the Draymond Greens and and uh and then Nicola

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Speaker 2: Jokic's and we heard he can do this. Yeah, all right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's okay. Yeah, So we're in the tie rack dot

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Speaker 2: com studios. All right, more on this coming up next

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Speaker 2: with regard to the pick, who made the pick, who

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Speaker 2: is the pick good for? And much much more with

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Speaker 2: Aaron Torres Mark Willard. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

648
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649
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Speaker 2: Okay live tyrag dot com studios. Before we go any

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Speaker 2: deeper into the Bronni and lebron situation, a couple signings

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Speaker 2: to pass along. Chris Paul, after being waived by the

653
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Speaker 2: Warriors earlier today, has agreed to a one year, eleven

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Speaker 2: million plus dollar deal with the San Antonio Spurs.

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00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 4: What do you think that sy Well.

656
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: I make of that that the Spurs are so young

657
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: have a lot of interesting pieces. We all know the

658
00:34:54,719 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: main one, and now they need then they need a mentor. Yep,

659
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: they need somebody who can control things for them on

660
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 2: the court. They have a lot of talent, but they're

661
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: totally like they're basketball games.

662
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if you watched any of them, more

663
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: just like chaotic.

664
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: It looked like scenes from an action movie a lot

665
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: of the time, and so they need someone to come

666
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: in and calm that down and show the guys the ropes.

667
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 4: That was my takeaway as well.

668
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean he then Yeah, all I was

669
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 5: gonna say was, you know, he people forget like before

670
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 5: he first of all went to the Suns. I still

671
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 5: believe should have won MVP that year, the year that

672
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 5: they went from completely irrelevant to the they ended up

673
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 5: in the NBA Finals. Obviously, the MVP's the regular season award,

674
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 5: but even before that, it was like that weird year

675
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 5: where he wasn't on the on the the Clippers and

676
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 5: they traded them to the Rockets, but the Rockets didn't

677
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 5: want them, and he took okay see to the playoffs

678
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 5: like they were trying to rebuild, and Chris Paul's like no, no, no,

679
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 5: get on my back. Shake Gil just Alexander and whoever

680
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 5: else was on that team that point, we're winning a

681
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 5: bunch of games.

682
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: So I give him credit.

683
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 5: Man, he clearly loves the game, and he's clearly respected

684
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 5: as a veteran guy that, as you said, can kind

685
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 5: of step into a step into an organization and make

686
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 5: a difference with young people.

687
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: Free agent center Jonas Fallon Tunis has agreed to a

688
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: three year, thirty million dollar deal.

689
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: With the Washington Wizards. That's interesting.

690
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: I'll say this.

691
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 5: You know, I am far from a Washington Wizards expert,

692
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 5: but I bring it up because if you and I know,

693
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 5: we were talking about the draft a minute ago, and

694
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 5: it is kind of irrelevant, but the kid Alex Sar

695
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 5: who went number two to Washington refused to work out

696
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 5: for anyone other than Washington, so and people said that

697
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 5: maybe on upside he has the chance to be the

698
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 5: best player in the draft.

699
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 4: So I thought that was.

700
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: Kind of weird, but interesting.

701
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 5: Now you get valance, So maybe things are just starting

702
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 5: to finally just a tiny bit, not going to oversell it,

703
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 5: but maybe just a little bit break the way of

704
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 5: the Washington Wizards.

705
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: Now, well it's interesting right now because they've also that

706
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: Malcolm Brogden on the way, Valentna's on the way.

707
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: You like their draft? I've heard lightly.

708
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: And this is kind of this is one of the

709
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 2: things I would look for if I were a big

710
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 2: NBA fan, and by the way, I am. But that's

711
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: a lot of money now coming in for a team

712
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: that is sort of in a reboot process. They were

713
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: the conduit in the Chris Paul and Jordan Poole trade

714
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: last year.

715
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: What are they doing with Kyle Kuzma?

716
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And is that the kind of player who's about

717
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: to be on the move, because why we haven't heard

718
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: a peep that one's quiet And I brogged in in

719
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: Valentnis in that's a lot of in in in and

720
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: and that's a lot of money, And so I don't

721
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: know that Kyle Kuzma fits in their future plans.

722
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 4: Fair fair, No, I just I thought it was interesting.

723
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 5: I don't know that I've ever like Usually when team

724
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 5: when players kind of tank to get to a team

725
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 5: in the draft, it's for somebody that hasn't been the

726
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 5: worst organization in the league for like, you know, probably

727
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 5: the last seven eight years. So I just I just

728
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 5: find it interesting that maybe things are starting to tick up.

729
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 5: But to your point, obviously a lot of moves to

730
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 5: be made, and Kyle Kusmas obviously not a guy that

731
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 5: you're going to build around in the bigger pictures.

732
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: So yeah, absolutely, all right, mark with it, d Aaron

733
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: Torres cloud that you're with us. The number one thing

734
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: I want to say about all the Bronni James stuff

735
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 2: is this, because I do get this response almost every

736
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 2: time we talk about Bronni, and we just got it again.

737
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: I want to say hi to Brendan Brody who's listening

738
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 2: to us, and he says, guys, please give Bronnie a

739
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: chance to show what he can do on the court.

740
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 2: He almost died last July. He had to take it

741
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: easy last season. That explains his low stats. I think

742
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 2: he has the potential to be a solid role player

743
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: in the NBA. The hard part about talking about Bronnie James, Aaron,

744
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: is all of the things that are going on here

745
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 2: that actually have nothing to do with projecting him as

746
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: a player. I have no clue what Bronnie James is

747
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: going to do in the NBA, and I have no

748
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 2: interest in trying to say that he's going to be awful.

749
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: I don't think that that's what this is about. I

750
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: think that this is about the way the Lakers are behaving.

751
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: And I also think this is about asking the real question,

752
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: which is, did Lebron just do right by his kid.

753
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 4: At the sake of the organization or.

754
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: Did he do by himself? Mm hmm in this it

755
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 2: to me that's the question.

756
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think that's absolutely the question. I think

757
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: it's okay.

758
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 5: It's okay to not blame the kid for being a

759
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 5: pawn in his father's game while also acknowledging you could say, oh,

760
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 5: you know, the listen, the hard thing was obviously very scary.

761
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 5: Nobody's denying that. But let's just call a spade a spade.

762
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 5: If he had any other name than Lebron James Junior

763
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 5: Bronnie James, he would not have been selected with that pick.

764
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 5: You could deny, you could debate it whatever, And I

765
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 5: know we'll talk about it more throughout the show, but

766
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 5: that's just the simple fact of it. No matter what

767
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 5: happened at USC this past.

768
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: Year, absolutely like like no one else was looking to

769
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: make that pick, and and and that's fine, uh, but

770
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: it absolutely leaves a lot of questions on the table,

771
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: which we will continue to deal with coming up next

772
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: on Fox. Sports Radio. Okay, brother, you said it, you

773
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: said it. I'm about to get you credit again because

774
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: you texted me something earlier that I think is the

775
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: big takeaway here when it comes to Bronnie James and

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Speaker 2: All right, there was Ken Griffy and Ken Griffy Junior.

781
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: That was amazing. Now we're going to get the NBA

782
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: version right. Well, here's the thing about that. You said

783
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 2: to me. What everybody loved about the Griffy situation years

784
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 2: ago was that it was organic. It came together on

785
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: its own. Nobody was the puppeteer. It simply came together

786
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: because people were making baseball moves. Young player was coming

787
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: up through the system. He was clearly a generation talent.

788
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: And did his father hang on in his career with

789
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: that as a goal. Maybe I don't know, but I

790
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: do know that nobody, nobody started moving chess pieces around

791
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: a board a year and a half ahead of time,

792
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: you're sure.

793
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, your point, fair point.

794
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: But like I'm trying to be nice over here, like whatever,

795
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: five years maybe from the moment he was born, I

796
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 2: don't know, but nobody did that in order to ensure

797
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: that they were both going to be on the Seattle

798
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 2: Mariners at the exact same time. That's what happened here.

799
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: So whenever somebody goes, oh my god, this is such

800
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: a great story, I'm sorry. I'm like, no, it's really not.

801
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: It really isn't. It's the story of one of the

802
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 2: greatest basketball players of all time pushing every leverage button

803
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 2: alive to make this happen, whether it should have or not.

804
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 3: Sorry, not a great story.

805
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, what I really think it is I keep people

806
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 5: I keep hearing hearing people say exactly, Oh, this is

807
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 5: gonna it's just gonna be an incredible moment, and we

808
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 5: have to celebrate this. You know what this is, what

809
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 5: this really is is a celebration of Lebron's longevity. It

810
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 5: is that he is still good enough to be in

811
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 5: the league at the point that his son enters. Has

812
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 5: nothing to do with his son, his merit how good

813
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 5: he is. And then there is the you know, the

814
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 5: the variable of like it was all orchestrated, Like you know,

815
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 5: I was going back and thinking about it. Ken Gurvy

816
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 5: junior went to high school in Cincinnati. Okay, uh, there

817
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 5: was a Ken Griffy senior. Wasn't sitting there when when

818
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: his son was a junior or a sophomore in high

819
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 5: school in Cincinnati figuring out a way to make sure

820
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 5: that he was on the Seattle Mariners five years down

821
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 5: the road. Because it's like, that's not how it happened.

822
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 5: And so again, and I look at what will inevitably

823
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 5: be the moment, what it will ultimately be is another

824
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 5: celebration of Lebron. And listen, whatever we think of Lebron,

825
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 5: he's one of the greatest players of all time. Where

826
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 5: you think he's the best, the second best, whatever, doesn't

827
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 5: really matter. He is by definition, one of the greatest

828
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 5: players of all time any statistical category.

829
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 4: But he's had a lot of celebration.

830
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 5: I mean, we celebrated him when he passed Kareem, We

831
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 5: celebrated him, you know, when he passed Kobe, which obviously

832
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 5: unfortunately happened, you know, right before Kobe passed away. But

833
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 5: the point I'm trying to make We've had plenty of

834
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 5: celebrations of Lebron, and when JJ Reddick love him or

835
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 5: hate him, is forced essentially to or he's forced.

836
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 4: It won't be maybe said out loud, but it'll be

837
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 4: uninto it.

838
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 5: It's it's implied that he's forced to put in BRONI

839
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 5: to appease Lebron's ego.

840
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 4: That's all it is.

841
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 5: It's appeasing Lebron's ego. And it is a situation where

842
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 5: we will it will be a celebration of Lebron's longevity.

843
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 5: But I don't think it's gonna maybe I'm dead wrong.

844
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be just this amazing,

845
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 5: feel good moment of Oh what these two have done

846
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 5: for the sport of basketball. It's like, no, Lebron pulled

847
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 5: some strings. He's old, you know, he's good enough to

848
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 5: still be in the league at this point. But it's

849
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 5: not going to be the same as Kangrafree Junior and

850
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 5: King Grave Senior.

851
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 2: The glitz and glamour of the organization and the city

852
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: are what's driving this, and I can prove it that's it.

853
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: This is not because it's a great story and it's

854
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: cool because Lebron will play with Bronny because by the way,

855
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: we still don't even know that. We don't even know

856
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: if Bronni can earn his way into the NBA. But

857
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: Giannis's brother has been on his team for years. Nobody cares,

858
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: and everyone thinks it's ludicrous. Yes, nobody can. Why is

859
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: that not a great story?

860
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 4: Well, and that was, you know, and that's what cracks

861
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: me up.

862
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, Giannis's brother is on a team, and

863
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 5: it's like yeah, and he's a punchline and we all

864
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 5: make fun of it. We don't pretend like it's anything

865
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 5: else other than it is, you know what I mean,

866
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 5: like absolutely sweet, Like is anybody like, you know, Thanasis

867
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 5: that guy? I mean, you have to what it's like, No,

868
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 5: Jannis wants him there, okay. And by the way, every

869
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 5: superstar has guys that they want in their foxhole with him,

870
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 5: whether it's a veteran college teammate, uh whatever. But when

871
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 5: a guy like Thanasis is on the bucks, nobody is

872
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 5: trying to protect like like you know, uh, Doc Rivers

873
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 5: isn't going to the podium and like, well, you know,

874
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 5: I mean Fanastas, I mean, it's just his work ethic

875
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 5: is this and he's a this and he's a that.

876
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 5: And that was what Rob Polinka did after the draft.

877
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 5: He tried to sell us that no, it's yeah, I

878
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 5: mean you don't understand Brownie works. He works really hard

879
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 5: and he's a great teammate and no, no, And I've

880
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 5: heard our colleague Doug Gottlieb had a rant during one

881
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 5: of the commercial breaks where he's like, yeah, literally everybody

882
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 5: has to work hard to get to the NBA. You

883
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 5: have to be a good teammate if you're drafted in

884
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 5: the second round. And so if it was, and I

885
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 5: don't know how Rob Polinka could perfectly frame it. But again,

886
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 5: when we talk about fanasis nobody, as of course Giannis's

887
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 5: brother for anybody doesn't know, Nobody pretends like it is

888
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 5: anything other than exactly what it is. And I just

889
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 5: don't know why we're pretending that that Bronni has to

890
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 5: be something other than what we know that this situation.

891
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 3: Is because we've heard of him.

892
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 2: And why have we heard of him Because Lebron James,

893
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: as you pointed out, has been pushing on this lever

894
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: for years and so we've been told about him and

895
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: he was in LA and we knew his AAU team

896
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: and then we knew that he was going to be

897
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: at USC. I'll put it to you a different way

898
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 2: because I don't want this to sound like sour grapes.

899
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: I don't care.

900
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: I do not care what the Lakers do with their

901
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 2: fifty fifth overall pick. But I think there's a lot

902
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: of hidden messaging here. Chris Paul is about as old

903
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 2: as Lebron. Okay, what if Chris Paul's son, Chris Paul's

904
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: son was a prospect, would we be making this big

905
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 2: of a deal out of it or would we stop

906
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 2: and go, well, is he a player?

907
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: Yes? You would.

908
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: Now why do we not do that for Lebron's kid?

909
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: Because we were told starting at age fourteen, this is

910
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: an NBA prospect. At no point did he look like one. Nope,

911
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: but we were told that he was. So that makes

912
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: it okay. And that's my issue with it. This is

913
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 2: not saying that who knows, maybe we're wrong, maybe Bronny

914
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: is going to be a great rotational piece. But when

915
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: the team you just said it, when the team that

916
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: actually uses one.

917
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 3: Of their assets to get him.

918
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: I've never heard a team make a pick then hold

919
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: the press conference and say.

920
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 3: Well, hard worker, good teammate.

921
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: Nobody says that about their pick unless they know he

922
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: can't play.

923
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: Joe's got such a great personality, though, you got.

924
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 3: To thank you.

925
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: Nobody holds the press conference, well, what did you see

926
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: in this player? Well, he sweats a lot, Yes, he sweats,

927
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 2: and he's really He high fives the other guys, so

928
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 2: we thought, yeah.

929
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 3: Let's put him on a team. It's absolute insanity.

930
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: What has happened with this story that people can't see

931
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: through it?

932
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: And I hope that the that the.

933
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: Kid does well, and the reason I hope he does

934
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: well is without knowing him. I don't know Lebron, I

935
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: don't know the family dynamic, so I can't speak on this.

936
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 2: But if it were me, if I had a high

937
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: school athlete who I thought was really, really a prospect

938
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: but was having a hard time early in the college process,

939
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 2: the first thing that would go through my head is

940
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: you need more development.

941
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: Yes, not, I'm gonna find a way to.

942
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: Grab someone's arm and twist it until you can be

943
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: a pro even when you're not ready to be.

944
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 5: Two things on that one, and I mentioned this on

945
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 5: my show last night. Obviously, me being a little bit

946
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 5: of a college hoops guy, whatever. I bring it up

947
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 5: because because I've seen a lot of this well I

948
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 5: mean tours, I mean, I mean, he was a top

949
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 5: projected a top ten pick a year ago, and then

950
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 5: the heart situation happened. Okay, listen, the heart situation was

951
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 5: obviously terrifying.

952
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 4: We get that.

953
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 5: But what I can tell you is when he was

954
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 5: projected as a top ten pick, first of all, there

955
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 5: was only one outlet that.

956
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 4: Even did it. It was ESPN and whatever.

957
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 5: And what I will tell you is to use a

958
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 5: very bad pun when that came out, it was mocked

959
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 5: in the basketball community. I had a a I'm not

960
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 5: a high school basketball evaluator. I don't see all these

961
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 5: kids twenty times while they're coming up as a sophomore.

962
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 4: Junior, and senior.

963
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 5: But I had people who did that were like, this

964
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 5: is a joke, Like and all it was ultimately doing

965
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 5: was setting this kid up to fail because he was

966
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 5: never that prospect and he was never going to be

967
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 5: that prospect in one year. And so to your point, Willard,

968
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 5: it's like, yeah, no, I think probably staying at a

969
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,439
Speaker 5: level where he could develop. I mean people even talked

970
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 5: about after the USC thing, transfer down to where you

971
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 5: can play more where you can potentially be a star

972
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 5: grow into that role. So there's a lot of things

973
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 5: wrong with this and whatever, but I think one thing that, like,

974
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 5: let's make it clear, just because you read something online

975
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 5: doesn't mean it was accurate. And there was never a

976
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 5: moment at any point that actual real basketball evaluators thought

977
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 5: Bronni was a top ten prospect in this draft.

978
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. And if he was,

979
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: that would have been a great story. That would have

980
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: been a great story. I I like, I'm sorry if

981
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: this sounds fuddy duddy boomer, no heart, I'm sorry.

982
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: If it sounds this way.

983
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 2: I just don't see this as a great story at all.

984
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

985
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: I see it that there's a relative out there and

986
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: the older of the two relatives has just a.

987
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 3: Crap ton of power.

988
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 2: Yes, because he's one of the most phenomenal things we've

989
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: ever seen in American sports, and he used it great.

990
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 3: I don't find that to be a great story.

991
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: Like, to me, somebody having wonderful power and flexing it.

992
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: Is not a great story.

993
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 2: It's actually what's really ailing our country right now.

994
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to get political.

995
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 2: You know this, this feels better because at least, this

996
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: is an African American man who's flexing his power. And

997
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 2: that feels a lot better to a lot of us

998
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: today than what has gotten this. I mean, I don't whoever,

999
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 2: anybody raise your hand. Did you enjoy the debate the

1000
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: other night?

1001
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: Now?

1002
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: That is people with power who flex it unnecessarily, and

1003
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: you end up up with two people. One is eighty

1004
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 2: something and the other one's almost eighty and these are

1005
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: the two best people running for president in our country.

1006
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 2: That's what happens when people have too much power and

1007
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 2: flex it. And I just see this as the much

1008
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 2: easier basketball version of it.

1009
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 4: Well, and I was thinking about this.

1010
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 5: Imagine he used the example of your son if he

1011
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 5: wasn't ready for whatever his vocation was. Imagine if whatever,

1012
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 5: you had a son, a brother, a daughter, a best

1013
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 5: friend or whatever that always wanted to host sports talk radio,

1014
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 5: and for whatever reason, they're they're you know, if they're older,

1015
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 5: if they're your brother, they're your best friend. The career

1016
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 5: path didn't take them there, or you know whatever, or

1017
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 5: you know, your daughters, whatever, it doesn't matter.

1018
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 4: The point I'm trying to make.

1019
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 5: If Scott Shapiro or our boss said, hey, Willard next Sunday.

1020
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 5: You know, it's it's a holiday weekend. You know, a

1021
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 5: lot of our our guys are available. Tours isn't available.

1022
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 5: Ephraim's not available. Whatever, who do you want? He said, well,

1023
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 5: you know my older brothers. You know, he always wanted

1024
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 5: to get into sports talk. He never had a chance.

1025
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 5: And Scott was like, all right, bring him on and

1026
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 5: let him host. It's a weird analogy. But nobody would

1027
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 5: be like, that's an incredible story. They'd be like, oh,

1028
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 5: Willard did his buddy a solid. That's cool. But nobody

1029
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 5: would be like, oh, that's such a great story. They

1030
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 5: grew up wanting to host radio together. Now it's July

1031
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 5: seventh and they're they're doing it. Look at Willard and

1032
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 5: his buddy. Let those wings spread, fly, baby fly. Nobody

1033
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 5: would say that. They'd be like, Okay, that's that's that's different.

1034
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 5: That's interesting. It's not an amazing story though, because because

1035
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 5: you had a little bit of because you know, by definition,

1036
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 5: he had a little bit of power, boss and said, hey,

1037
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 5: do what you want. Whoever you want is fine. And

1038
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 5: he gave your buddy a shot. You gave your brother

1039
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 5: a shot. By the way, does it make you a

1040
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 5: bad person for giving him a shot over you know,

1041
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 5: the local guy that's been trying to get on the

1042
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 5: national airwaves for twenty years. It doesn't make it a

1043
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 5: great story, though, because you pulled your buddy out of,

1044
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 5: you know, out of his accounting job to host Fox

1045
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 5: Sports Radio on a Sunday night.

1046
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 4: I know it's a weird analogy, but it is no.

1047
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 3: But I'm with you. I'm with you. And then what

1048
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 3: about the team.

1049
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 2: Let's talk about both LA basketball teams coming up next,

1050
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 2: because the front offices.

1051
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 3: For both are really.

1052
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: Both have created a really interesting little pocket for themselves

1053
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: right here this week. We'll get to that coming up

1054
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 2: next with Aaron Torres, Mark Willard.

1055
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio.

1056
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: Okay, y'all, Tyreck dot Com Studios, Mark willerd Aeron Torres.

1057
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: We'll get back to the Clippers in a little bit.

1058
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 2: I don't understand, but as far as the Lakers are concerned,

1059
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: from the team angle, I do understand. I wouldn't have

1060
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 2: done it, but at least I understand. I understand the

1061
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 2: situation you're in. I understand the power of Lebron James.

1062
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 2: Sometimes you look at situations in sports and you see

1063
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 2: someone do something You're like, why the hell did you

1064
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 2: just do that? And then you think about it and

1065
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: you're like, well, what was the alternative where the Lakers

1066
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: really just going to not equiesce to Lebron James, where

1067
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: they going to let him walk to a different team.

1068
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 3: That doesn't feel right. But at the same time.

1069
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 2: Even though we may understand the situation they're in, Aaron,

1070
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 2: I gotta think that's somewhere inside those hollowed hallways filled

1071
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: with O'Brien trophies, somebody looked at somebody and went, my god,

1072
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: we've lost our soul. They're sitting back there going, Okay,

1073
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: we've been in the playing tournament now two years in

1074
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: a row. The guy's now forty, D'Angelo Russell went and

1075
00:56:52,200 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 2: opted in, and we're just going to let him hire

1076
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: a brand new coach and use one of our two

1077
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 2: draft assets to pick a player that we don't think

1078
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: is ever going to help us.

1079
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 3: We're gonna let him do all that.

1080
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: We'll also going to let him opt out and potentially

1081
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: sign him to multiple years at age forty in the

1082
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 2: hopes that that's gonna do. What Because the Lakers that

1083
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: I've known for years have always claimed to be about

1084
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,439
Speaker 2: one thing I know that they do their one thing

1085
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: in an entertaining way. And so that's a lot of

1086
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: Laker fans response, Hey man, Lakers understand entertainment well, as

1087
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: you just detailed really well a few minutes ago. I

1088
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: don't think this is going to entertain you. This is

1089
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: a quirky little last name on the back of jerseys.

1090
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: Maybe this is not going to sell tickets. And so

1091
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: you handed all that over to a forty year old

1092
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: basketball player and for what.

1093
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: Tough spot.

1094
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 5: Well, and but the counter to that, and this is

1095
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 5: the crazy part, because I think the most important part

1096
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 5: you hit is as a franchise, they're woe begone. Is

1097
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 5: you could say Lebron at forty years old doesn't deserve

1098
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 5: this much power. But as crazy as it sounds, what

1099
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 5: was the organization before he got there. They were in

1100
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 5: a four or five year rebuild already.

1101
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 4: When he got there.

1102
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 5: And you know, I'm not breaking news here, but if

1103
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 5: Lebron James didn't decide that, you know, off the court

1104
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 5: interests at that point in his career.

1105
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 4: Where as important as on the court interests, they.

1106
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 5: Probably are still in some form of a rebuild right now,

1107
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 5: you know. And so that's what makes it tough. So

1108
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 5: to be clear, I agree, it's like he's forty years old.

1109
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 5: You got to ring this back. He is clearly he

1110
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 5: has a complete power, power to pick the coach, power

1111
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 5: to pick the players, whatever. But the counter to that

1112
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 5: is like, as so, where does it sound? Where would

1113
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 5: they be without them? Would they be in the play in?

1114
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 5: Because again it's just easy to forget. What was it

1115
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 5: five six years in a row they had lottery picks,

1116
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 5: which is was unprecedented in its own right.

1117
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 4: Uh, and it wasn't really seemingly going anywhere.

1118
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 5: And then again, all of a sudden, Lebron decided, you

1119
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 5: know what, I want to go to La, make some movies,

1120
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 5: live where I want to live.

1121
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 2: And here we are, here we are no I And

1122
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: that's why I say what I say in that I

1123
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 2: get it, like I understand it.

1124
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 3: But if it sure is different.

1125
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: Like I wonder if this only because I know so

1126
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 2: many Laker fans, only because I spend so much time

1127
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: in that market, I would ask it this way, this

1128
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: is what I think.

1129
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 3: I think we'll speak to Laker fans because.

1130
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 2: They know the entertainment bug and right now, in this moment,

1131
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 2: they are all about Lebron James because they have no

1132
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: choice but to be all about Lebron James. But those

1133
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: of you who are not in that market, you may

1134
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: not know that. When Lebron first came to LA a

1135
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 2: lot of Laker fans had a hard time with it

1136
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: because because Kobe Bryant, damn it, Kobe Bryant. There's a

1137
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 2: mural and these are two very different players, and this

1138
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 2: organization is not about like the hired gun type of

1139
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 2: a thing. You come here, you stay here if you

1140
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 2: weren't here to begin with. This was difficult for some

1141
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 2: Laker fans. Now they've gotten over it a little bit.

1142
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 2: Bubble chip good playoff performances feels like they're at least

1143
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: adjacent to competitiveness at a high level. I want you,

1144
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: Laker fan to ask yourself, this, would Kobe have done this?

1145
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 3: What do you think? No?

1146
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, And that was, you know, the

1147
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 5: the unfortunate, but the tragic part about everything that was

1148
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 5: going on was was Gigi was on her way to

1149
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 5: earning everything. You know, again, who knows what would have been,

1150
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 5: but yeah, she was on her way to earning everything.

1151
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 5: And I think that's what's interesting about it. And by

1152
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 5: the way, I would actually, as weird as it sounds,

1153
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 5: i'd push back a little bit because I think there's

1154
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 5: a lot of Lakers fans that maybe, you know, when

1155
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 5: they did win that twenty twenty Bubble title, when they

1156
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 5: did win that twenty twenty Bubble title, where like, okay,

1157
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 5: it's worth it, But now are like, was selling the

1158
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 5: soul of the organization worth it for that title in

1159
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 5: the Bubble? And many would say, yes, he played to

1160
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 5: win the game, he played to win championships. But I

1161
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 5: think there's a lot of people in LA that were like,

1162
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 5: I'm over this. I mean, I've said this before, is

1163
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 5: like living here. I could tell you half a dozen

1164
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 5: people that I speak with on a regular basis that

1165
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 5: used to Lakers fans that are like, I just have

1166
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 5: no interest in supporting this organization at this point. And yeah,

1167
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 5: and I do think I think what you said is

1168
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 5: really important. There's something there about the idea of this

1169
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 5: isn't a hired gun franchise. This isn't you know, the

1170
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 5: franchise itself has never been bigger than one player, or

1171
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 5: the has never been one player has never been bigger

1172
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 5: than that franchise, whether it was Kobe, whether it was magic,

1173
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 5: whether it was whatever. And it was funny because I

1174
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 5: remember when the Lakers won the Bubble title and then

1175
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 5: of course a few weeks later a lot of people

1176
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 5: would forget this, But the Dodgers won the Bubble World Series,

1177
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 5: and I remember saying at the time, and I got

1178
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 5: a lot, you know, I put it on social media,

1179
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 5: and I didn't really think much of it, but what

1180
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 5: I said was and some people got it, some people didn't.

1181
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 5: I said, Mookie Betts, who of course was the missing

1182
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 5: piece for a core that included Justin Turner and Clayton

1183
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 5: Ta Kersha on all those guys, Mookie Bets is what

1184
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 5: Lebron James.

1185
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 4: Wants to be in LA will never be. And I

1186
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 4: got crushed for that.

1187
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 5: I mean, it was mostly people that were Lebron fans

1188
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 5: that had no idea what I was talking about. But

1189
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 5: it was like, because the Dodgers were that team that

1190
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 5: had been on the doorstep five six years in a row,

1191
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 5: that had, you know, guys that had been there from

1192
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 5: the beginning Kershaw as I said, Justin Turner, etc. And

1193
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 5: then you bring in Mookie Betts in that year. He

1194
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 5: was the difference as opposed to Lebron, who comes in tears,

1195
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 5: the whole thing down, demands that all the young guys

1196
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 5: be traded, brings in all his own guys and wins

1197
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 5: a title a year or two later. I still think there,

1198
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 5: I think you're under selling a little bit. I think

1199
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 5: some of the anger that a lot of Lakers fans

1200
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 5: do still have for Lebron even after all these years.

1201
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,320
Speaker 2: Maybe No, I'm not gonna argue with you on that

1202
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,320
Speaker 2: one at all. More to say on that the Clippers situation, however,

1203
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 2: I don't understand that's coming up as well.

1204
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 3: But I always.

1205
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: Understand when Steve di Sego talks because just he makes

1206
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 2: a lot of sense, very easy to listen to, ladies

1207
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: and them and Steve de.

1208
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 7: Sager, Hello, gentlemen, And you were not kidding about Mookie

1209
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 7: Betts's influence, because I Dodger fanball will remember they were

1210
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 7: down three games to one in the NLCS and then

1211
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 7: he had three phenomenal games in a row and he

1212
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 7: was the guy that won them the clinching game of

1213
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 7: the World Series. When he's on, it's a completely different lineup,

1214
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 7: as talented as it is, and as far as Lebron's

1215
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 7: six years with the Lakers, you know, Goby's first six

1216
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 7: eight years were pretty good. That's an understatement. Lebron six

1217
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 7: eight years, whatever it's going to be as a Laker.

1218
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 7: One good season so far, literally one Lebron's first year

1219
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 7: as a Laker. They finished under five hundred. Then you

1220
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 7: call it the Bubble Championship because it was one in

1221
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 7: under those circumstances. They were a very good team that

1222
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 7: they were. They were to be fifty two and nineteen

1223
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 7: that year they were first out West wound up winning

1224
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 7: the title. They haven't had a season like that before

1225
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 7: or since with him. I know they made a run

1226
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,959
Speaker 7: through the playoffs one year ago, but they were about

1227
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 7: a five hundred team a year ago.

1228
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, we wouldn't call the Indiana Pacers this year a

1229
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 5: great team. They went on a great run in the playoffs,

1230
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 5: and it was the same with the Lakers now.

1231
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 7: And when they've had decent regular seasons, they're out first

1232
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 7: round like this year, our first round of Phoenix a

1233
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 7: few years ago. They've had one good year with Lebron,

1234
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 7: James and the Lakers, and it was the one title year.

1235
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 7: James harden Will resigned with the LA Clippers two year,

1236
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 7: seventy million dollars including a player option. Paul George opted

1237
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 7: out of his contract, and George was due to talk

1238
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 7: to Philadelphia tonight. He will not resign with the Clippers.

1239
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 7: Philadelphia is signing Andre Drummond and Eric Gordon, Golden State

1240
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 7: Wave Chris Paul, and he intends to sign with the

1241
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 7: Spurs one year for about eleven million dollars. Detroit plans

1242
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 7: to give Kay Cunningham a five year max rookie extension

1243
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 7: and the Pistons new head coach will be JB. Bickerstaff

1244
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 7: on a reported five year contract. Three WNBA games wins

1245
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 7: for New York, Minnesota and Indiana, which wanted Phoenix today

1246
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 7: eighty eight eighty two. Caitlin Clark fifteen points, nine rebounds,

1247
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 7: twelve assists. She had six turnovers as well. Seventy five

1248
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 7: minutes in and Mexico still has not scored. It might

1249
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 7: be out of Copa America. Tonight in Arizona, they're scoreless

1250
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 7: against Ecuador. Mexico needing a win to advance. US is

1251
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 7: playing Monday nights and likely needs a win to advance,

1252
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 7: and they're facing first place Uruguay on FS one from

1253
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 7: Kansas City tomorrow night at the Euros, the round of

1254
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 7: sixteen started this week in England. In overtime, defeated Slovakia

1255
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 7: two to one. They got a goal in the final

1256
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 7: minute of regulation and then a goal in the opening

1257
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 7: minute of extra time. Spain beat Georgia four to one.

1258
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 7: That's the Republic of NASCAR win for Joey Logano in

1259
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 7: overtime tonight at Nashville Sidney McLaughlin. Lavon has broken the

1260
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 7: world record again in the four hundred meter hurdles to

1261
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 7: end the US Olympic Trials. She won her final by

1262
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 7: two seconds. To Major League Baseball, a youngster has hit

1263
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 7: for the cycle for the Texas Rangers tonight. Now Texas

1264
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 7: is ahead eleven to two at Baltimore, starting the bottom

1265
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,919
Speaker 7: of the eight. Looks like Tech will end a six

1266
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 7: game losing streak. Wyatt Langford has homered. He also has

1267
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 7: a single, double and triple four for five four RBIs

1268
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 7: Houston in eleven innings beat the Mets ten to five,

1269
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 7: San Francisco over the Dodgers ten to four, Colorado in

1270
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 7: fourteen innings, beat the White Sox in Chicago five to four.

1271
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 7: And as far as golf, Cam Davis was the winner

1272
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 7: in Detroit at the PGA event and This guy had

1273
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 7: not had a top ten finish all season, but he

1274
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 7: wins by one stroke today and makes more money in

1275
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 7: one weekend in Detroit than he made his previous sixteen

1276
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 7: starts on the PGA Tour this season. The winner gets

1277
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 7: about one point six million dollars, so he about doubles

1278
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 7: his season earnings with these four days in Detroit. How

1279
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 7: is it that he won without a playoff because there

1280
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 7: were a few guys right behind him on the leader board. Well,

1281
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 7: he won by one stroke when Akshay Batilla, aged twenty two,

1282
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 7: missed a short putt. Batilla hadn't missed but inside six

1283
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 7: feet all weekend. This is just his second bogie of

1284
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 7: the week, and so he finishes in a tie for second.

1285
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 7: What's the difference between the first place check this weekend

1286
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,600
Speaker 7: in Detroit and the tie for second? First place over

1287
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 7: one point six million dollars. Tie for second six hundred

1288
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 7: and sixteen thousand dollars. In other words, by not getting

1289
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 7: into a playoff and winning the misput at the end

1290
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 7: costs him over one million dollars. The next live golf event,

1291
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 7: by the way, is in two weeks in Spain. The

1292
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 7: British Open in three weeks back to you.

1293
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Steve love that as always. Aaron may not know this.

1294
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: This is a tradition on Sunday nights where Steve talks

1295
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Speaker 2: about the quirks of how things came down the stretch

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01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 2: in golf and then talks about the money, and then

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Speaker 2: we make fun of Live, but then we're actually making

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Speaker 2: fun of the PGA Tour for having the golfers not

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Speaker 2: make as much as Live, except for now they are

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01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: making pretty close or a lot more because of Live.

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Speaker 3: Did that all make sense? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: This is the greatness of Americas. You actually have competition

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01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 7: and it kicks people in the backside to make him

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Speaker 7: do something. It's, as you might put it, it's a

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Speaker 7: tradition unlike any other on this show.

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Speaker 4: Do they still call Saturday moving day?

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 4: Or has that changed his last week?

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I don't believe that we we moved the needle

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Speaker 2: enough just last week alone.

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Speaker 3: So we're gonna we're going to need to keep our

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Speaker 3: put on the gas.

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Speaker 4: When you're the commissioner of sports, you're gonna get on.

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Speaker 2: That, remember president of sports. Sorry, Yeah, Like I want

1315
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 2: to make sure everyone knows like I'm in charge of everything,

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Speaker 2: Like set bladder back in the day with FIFA, who

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01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 2: said he was the president of everything.

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Speaker 3: That's right. That's the best quote of all time.

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Speaker 4: By the way, he wasn't wrong.

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Speaker 7: He had all the cash coming from his hands.

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Speaker 2: No, if anybody's ever been to Brazil to see them,

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01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 2: millions upon millions of dollars that have been spent on

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 2: that were for one tournament and they are now just

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Speaker 2: bird poop sanctuaries.

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Speaker 7: One of them was a rainforest and was getting grown over.

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Speaker 2: That's that's faithful, ladies and gentlemen. But keep playing your xbox.

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Speaker 2: It's a wonderful game.

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Speaker 4: Real quick. I'm talking about fun things. You don't know.

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Speaker 5: Yes, you know, this is a uh the Clippers breaking

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01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 5: up with Paul George's is very uh you know, emotional

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01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 5: for me. So Paul George got traded to the Clippers,

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Speaker 5: which was obviously the same night that Kawhi Leonard got

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01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 5: signed the night of my wedding, so whoa, there are pictures.

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01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 5: It was a super late night thing. It was like

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Speaker 5: eleven thirty Pacific time, and there are pictures from my

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Speaker 5: wedding of every you know, all the guys, especially just

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01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 5: standing around a phone like what the heck is going

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Speaker 5: on because it because it was obviously if you remember,

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01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 5: it was like, well, where's Kawhi gonna go? Is he

1340
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 5: gonna be a Laker? Is he gonna be a Clipper?

1341
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Speaker 5: Is he gonna this? Is he gonna that?

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01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 4: And the Paul.

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01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 5: George element came absolutely out of nowhere, and my buddy

1344
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 5: just I remember, my buddy literally pulled me aside on

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01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 5: the dance for a huge NBA fan.

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Speaker 4: He's like, uh, Paul George just he goes.

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Speaker 5: Kawhi just signed with the Clippers, and Paul George got

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Speaker 5: traded to the Clippers, and we were like, what what what?

1349
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Speaker 5: And there's pictures from my wedding of everybody standing around

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 5: their phone staring.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 5: So sad to see it come to an end. I mean,

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01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 5: we always assume that hopefully my marriage would last longer

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Speaker 5: than Kawhi and PG and with the Clippers, but yeah,

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01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 5: I was hoping that they'd last a little longer than

1356
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 5: they did and they'd bring a little bit more success

1357
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:39,719
Speaker 5: to the Clippers.

1358
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, that that actually did happen.

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01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 5: So it's kind of a little bit of a sad

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01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 5: moment for me because I remember exactly where I was

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Speaker 5: when I found out Paul George got traded to the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: Although congrats on winning dot, I think I may not

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01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 2: be as convinced as you that Paul George and the

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Speaker 2: Clippers have actually just broken up. I'll explain it a second,

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Speaker 2: we'll get to it. That's Aaron Toryres. I'm Mark Willard.

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Speaker 2: We're live in the tire rack dot Com Studios on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Mark willerderon Torres Live tire rack dot

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Speaker 2: Com Studios.

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Speaker 3: Does this make sense to you? Uh?

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Speaker 4: Uh oh? What is it?

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Speaker 2: I don't understand all right, So so let me understand

1372
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 2: what we've been told. The Clippers offered Paul George a

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01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: three year deal.

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Speaker 3: He wants four, okay.

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01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 2: The Clippers who will open a new arena, The Clippers

1376
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 2: who just re signed James Harden, the Clippers who remain

1377
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: committed to Kawhi Leonard, who seems to skip half the games.

1378
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 2: Those same Clippers are now going to let Paul George

1379
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 2: walk for nothing because they don't want to give him

1380
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 2: the fourth year. They want to give him three, they

1381
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 2: don't want to give him four. And then the secondary

1382
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 2: piece of it is similar to what you and I

1383
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: started the show talking about, which is whenever you see

1384
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: news come down, ask yourself, why do we get to

1385
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 2: know that unless it's something final. Paul George is on

1386
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 2: the sixers. Now that's a report. But Paul George and

1387
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 2: his agent hitting WOJE to say, hey, we are very

1388
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:43,640
Speaker 2: unlikely to sign with the Clippers, and then wait for it.

1389
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Speaker 3: What did it take? Felt like about a half hour.

1390
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 3: Then the Clippers actually released a.

1391
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 2: Statement, so you could take the unlikely right out of that.

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01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 2: Paul has informed us that he's out. Why are the

1393
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:06,879
Speaker 2: two sides doing this? Why I haven't seen the Golden

1394
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 2: State Warriors release a statement. We would like to let

1395
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 2: everybody publicly know that Clay Thompson will not be back.

1396
01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: Clay has informed us that he would like to be

1397
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:23,520
Speaker 2: a Maverick, so that's that we want to thank him

1398
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: for his great contributions, including four championship rings.

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen that statement.

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01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 2: Paul George and the Clippers are screaming at one another

1401
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 2: on Twitter. That's what's happening right now, and we've reached

1402
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 2: a point where they're screaming loud enough where they may

1403
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 2: indeed break up. But I'm trying to figure out why

1404
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 2: we're getting this information now, and as just a basketball evaluator,

1405
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 2: I have no idea why the Clippers are doing this, Like,

1406
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: of those three players, when I factor in availability, Paul

1407
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: George is the best player of the three.

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01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 5: Well, and that was how that was. We led the show,

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01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 5: not we didn't really lead the show with Paul George,

1410
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 5: but it was a conversation pretty early. And that's what

1411
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 5: I said is I don't understand. I just feel like,

1412
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 5: if you're committing to Kawhi Leonard, then in turn, you

1413
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 5: kind of have to commit to Paul George because they're

1414
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 5: on the same time frame to whatever. And oh, by

1415
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 5: the way, on top of that, of course, you know,

1416
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 5: Kawhi is just never available. So that that was the

1417
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 5: part that confused me. And I also just don't understand

1418
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 5: what difference does the extra year make. I mean, all

1419
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 5: these guys are now in their early to mid thirties.

1420
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 5: I think Kawhi is the youngest, at like thirty three.

1421
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 5: You know, we're talking about real. If you believe such

1422
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 5: a window exists with these three, which I don't know

1423
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 5: that I do, then it's year one. You know, you

1424
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 5: probably got two years maybe. By the way, James Harden

1425
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 5: is only gonna under contract for two years. So that's

1426
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 5: the part of the confuses me. What is it about

1427
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 5: the fourth year that the Clipper Clippers like, oh, well,

1428
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 5: commit to you for three, but that fourth year, it's like,

1429
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 5: who really cares? Like this is the NBA. You can

1430
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 5: always find somebody to take a bad contract to make

1431
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 5: a trade work down the road, you know. I just

1432
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 5: that's the part that kind of confuses me. Is I

1433
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 5: just if it was just, Hey, he's just not part

1434
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 5: of our future plans for whatever reason, We're pursuing another

1435
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 5: guy at his position. We're rebuilding, we're tanking, we're tearing

1436
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 5: it all down. That's fine, but he kind of fits

1437
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 5: the timeframe that the entire organization is on right now

1438
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 5: with Kawhi Leonard and James Harden as your stars.

1439
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 2: I don't get it unless what we're actually seeing, and

1440
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 2: there is some evidence of this, what we're actually seeing

1441
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 2: right now in free agency, is that this whole thing

1442
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 2: is going to be a little bit of a bust

1443
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,839
Speaker 2: because you're watching NBA teams with new collective Bargaining agreement

1444
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 2: rules that quite frankly, very very few of us understand

1445
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,839
Speaker 2: and could explain to another person.

1446
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 3: Luxury tax penalties.

1447
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: Second apron the draft penalties, the ability to acquire players

1448
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 2: becomes very, very difficult. The penalties are out of control.

1449
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 2: So what you're seeing is teams saying they're going after players.

1450
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,759
Speaker 2: The Warriors went after Paul George, and the Clippers, boy,

1451
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 2: they want Paul George. But oh, neither one of them's

1452
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 2: gonna have Paul George. And oh, by the way, we

1453
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 2: just happened to be well below the apron. Now, like Valanchunis,

1454
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 2: who I think is a pretty interesting center, gets ten

1455
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 2: million dollars per year.

1456
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 3: It's kind of been a tradition the last few years.

1457
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: Aaron in NBA Free agency that by this time, four

1458
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 2: hours into the experience, you're like, what recession.

1459
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 3: Holy crap.

1460
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 2: NBA owners have spent a billion dollars already in the

1461
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 2: first four hours this year.

1462
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what have they spent forty eight?

1463
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I think that that's what's going on

1464
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 2: here is is the league finally made this so punitive

1465
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 2: that teams are acting like they want players maybe a

1466
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 2: little bit more than they do.

1467
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Speaker 5: That could be it, And I just I do think

1468
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 5: it's been a little bit quiet, But I also don't

1469
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 5: think it's been a little bit quiet because most of

1470
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 5: these guys that could be on the move, like they

1471
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 5: do have decisions to make, and and you know, you

1472
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 5: go back to I remember there was that one year

1473
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 5: where Katie and Kyrie signed within the first you know,

1474
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 5: hour of free agency. It's like, well, we kind of

1475
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 5: knew they were teammate, they were gonna be teammates, and

1476
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 5: that was in some way, shape or form done. Now

1477
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 5: did all of us believe it was gonna be the

1478
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 5: Brooklyn Nets, I don't know, but I just bring up

1479
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 5: because you kind of knew that was gonna be on.

1480
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 5: But Paul George, it's clear there is some sort of friction,

1481
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 5: if you will, with the Clippers, and so he is

1482
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 5: going to at least see what else is out there. Uh, Lebron,

1483
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 5: we knew yesterday was going to opt out. So that's

1484
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 5: gonna be a little bit of a process. Klay Thompson,

1485
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 5: we know that he's probably almost certainly not going to

1486
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 5: be back with Golden State, and so that means that

1487
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 5: that's going to be a process. He's going to meet

1488
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 5: with two or three other teams. So I'm a little

1489
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 5: surprised that people are surprised that it's been a quieter

1490
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 5: free agency to start, But I just think that's the

1491
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 5: nature of how things were well.

1492
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 2: And I mean that a little bit less about the

1493
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,639
Speaker 2: frequency of news and more about the dollars that I'm.

1494
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: Seeing coming in.

1495
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 2: If you had asked me a month ago what I

1496
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 2: thought was going to happen with Malik Monk, I thought

1497
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 2: Malik would be on a different basketball team, and Malik

1498
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 2: would be making thirty million a year, and we didn't

1499
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: even get to free agency and he re signed with

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01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 2: the Sacramento Kings for less than twenty a year. I

1501
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 2: just think money is much harder for these guys to

1502
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 2: find than it has been the last few years.

1503
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 5: It could be, yeah, and it's because again of the

1504
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 5: salary cap things that we don't all fully understand, but

1505
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 5: it does feel like it is changing a little bit

1506
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,839
Speaker 5: how teams are operating, for sure, there's.

1507
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Speaker 3: No question about it. All right.

1508
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 2: You've mentioned, and I've mentioned a couple of times in

1509
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 2: this conversation today, the name Klay Thompson, and we are

1510
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 2: all moving forward with the idea that he is going

1511
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 2: to be on a new team come tomorrow, the day after,

1512
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,799
Speaker 2: maybe even tonight, maybe who knows. By the time Steve's

1513
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: done with his conversation coming up who played this right?

1514
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 2: Who played it wrong? Between Clay and the Warriors. We'll

1515
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 2: get to that coming up next. Look, I can't get

1516
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 2: into anybody else's fight right like our emotions aren't in it.

1517
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 2: I don't know who's right who's wrong. If you're upset,

1518
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,720
Speaker 2: you're upset. I can't really talk you out of it.

1519
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 2: But the best we can do is kind of lay

1520
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 2: everything that we know out on the table and analyze

1521
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: it to our best ability.

1522
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 3: Let's do that with Klay Thompson.

1523
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 2: And the Warriors, who, by the way, have not officially

1524
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 2: parted ways yet, but they're going to. And the insiders

1525
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 2: say so I can share a little bit of I

1526
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: don't want to call it reporting. Let's just say Klay

1527
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: Thompson's gonna play somewhere else next year.

1528
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 3: I know this.

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Speaker 2: Aaron, I wonder sort of how you see it, And

1535
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 2: here's here's the background. Here are the bullet points that

1536
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 2: people bring up Klay Thompson tears his acl years ago.

1537
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 3: Against the Toronto Raptors in the finals.

1538
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: The Warriors show up in his hospital with a max

1539
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 2: contract extension. He would have gotten it elsewhere if they

1540
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 2: didn't give it to him. Still a tremendous player, and

1541
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 2: he hurt himself trying to win another title. That's one

1542
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 2: way to look at it. Other people say, dude, you

1543
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 2: ended up getting paid eighty million to not play basketball

1544
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 2: because in his rehab he then tore his achilles the

1545
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 2: following year in a pickup game and missed two full years,

1546
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 2: and then the third one came back but only played

1547
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 2: part time in a year that the Warriors.

1548
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 3: Ended up winning another championship.

1549
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 2: Ring Since that time, there have been numerous conversations about

1550
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 2: Clay's shot selection, about whether or not Clay would be

1551
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 2: better suited coming off the bench. He did come off

1552
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: the bench at times last year. Clay is somebody who

1553
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 2: is very internal with his mental side. He's a thinker,

1554
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 2: and he hears everything and he takes it to heart

1555
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 2: a sensitive being, and so whenever he heard the it's

1556
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 2: over or whenever he heard the you're washed up, even

1557
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 2: when he didn't hear it, sometimes he would hear it,

1558
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 2: if you know what I mean, and that played into

1559
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 2: a relationship that through time, really really soured. All that said,

1560
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,719
Speaker 2: if the reports are to be believed, the Warriors offered

1561
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 2: this guy two years and forty eight million dollars before

1562
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 2: the season started, he said no and now stands to

1563
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: make considerably less as he leaves. So which side kind

1564
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 2: of makes more sense to you?

1565
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 5: Which side makes more sense to me in terms of

1566
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,480
Speaker 5: Clay's perspective or the Warriors.

1567
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 2: Person I yeah, And I also think, just to add

1568
01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: in that the Golden State Warriors themselves, like the thought

1569
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 2: has been for a while that there would be a

1570
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 2: true sentimentality there that they were very activated by the

1571
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 2: idea of the Big three being career Warriors, And I

1572
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 2: don't think that that sentimentality is there. Like, I think

1573
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 2: there are hurt feelings on both sides, if you will, so,

1574
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 2: I just wonder, from your and my outsider standpoint, which

1575
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 2: hurt feelings or which position kind of makes more sense

1576
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 2: to you?

1577
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 4: This is such a cop out. I think both sides

1578
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 4: make sense.

1579
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, you know from the Warriors perspective, you

1580
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:43,520
Speaker 5: know Clay is obviously a diminished player. That's not even debatable.

1581
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,839
Speaker 5: I think even Clay would say that, and like, listen,

1582
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:51,640
Speaker 5: it sounds great that you're going to all three of

1583
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 5: them are going to retire as Warriors, But that's just

1584
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 5: not how things work in sports in general, especially as

1585
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 5: you get older. Guys don't Guys that have done it

1586
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 5: at a certain level don't often fully understand that they

1587
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 5: might not be at that level anymore. And so, yeah,

1588
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 5: it sounds great that they're all gonna retire warriors. That

1589
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 5: probably wasn't realistic, by the way, sounds great your first

1590
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 5: you know, your first girlfriend when you're sixteen, Oh, we're

1591
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 5: soulmates and we're gonna get married. That generally doesn't happen,

1592
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 5: and that's okay. And so I don't think either side

1593
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 5: is to blame. Clay thinks he has something to give,

1594
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 5: maybe more than the Warriors believe. He has the opportunity

1595
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 5: to make more money. And I'm never gonna blame anybody

1596
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,719
Speaker 5: for taking the most possible money. Even we just talked

1597
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 5: a minute ago about Lebron James, Like, if he does

1598
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 5: end up coming back for the max possible he can get,

1599
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 5: I don't blame him for that either, And I don't

1600
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 5: blame Clay and so I think he feels a little

1601
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 5: bit disrespected. I think the Warriors have an organization to run.

1602
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,560
Speaker 5: It's not a charity. They don't I don't want to

1603
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 5: say they don't owe him anything, but they don't owe

1604
01:25:56,479 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 5: him paying the most amount of money or giving him

1605
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 5: the best possible role. He is who he is at

1606
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:06,919
Speaker 5: this point. He's in his mid thirties. It's not twenty sixteen.

1607
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,759
Speaker 5: Things have changed and he's not the same player anymore.

1608
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 5: I really do understand it from both sides.

1609
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 2: The Golden State Warriors are staring at a pr disaster

1610
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 2: right now, whether it's fair or not. And we're so

1611
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 2: early in the free agency period. I don't know what

1612
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 2: moves we don't know about, but if you just kind

1613
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 2: of follow the timeline, one of their franchise legends is

1614
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 2: about to leave for less money than he was offered

1615
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:40,520
Speaker 2: by the team. Again, this is leaving out some key context,

1616
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 2: but that's true. They flirted with the idea of Paul

1617
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: George all week, didn't get him. Chris Paul's contractual situation

1618
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 2: was delayed because it was thought that he could be

1619
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 2: in a trade. They end up just waiving him. That's

1620
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 2: what they received last year. For Joan and Poole. So

1621
01:27:01,439 --> 01:27:05,520
Speaker 2: essentially it tells the fans, we just took Jordan Poole's

1622
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:11,440
Speaker 2: salary and dumped it. A year later and the exact

1623
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 2: same team remains in place, just minus Clay Thompson and

1624
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 2: Chris Paul, and it's a team that didn't even make the.

1625
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:19,960
Speaker 3: Playoffs last year.

1626
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're about to do, but I

1627
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,160
Speaker 2: know Monday morning is coming quick, and that's not gonna

1628
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 2: sound good from the local fan base once they're on

1629
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 2: their way to work tomorrow.

1630
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 5: Well, and you definitely have the much better perspective on,

1631
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 5: you know, on the state of the fan base and

1632
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 5: what they think needs to be done and what.

1633
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 4: Frankly does need to be done.

1634
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 5: The way that I kind of look at it is

1635
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 5: it does feel like for I don't know how long,

1636
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 5: because they just want to title you know, three springs ago,

1637
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 5: two calendar years ago. But you know, the Chris Paul thing,

1638
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 5: even last year, it felt kind of like trying to

1639
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 5: put a band aid over something. And oh, he could

1640
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 5: play with the second team, but he and it's like,

1641
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 5: you know, trying to find a plug and play guy

1642
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 5: for this era in this moment in time, right now,

1643
01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 5: and so this just feels like a pseudo clean break

1644
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 5: of Okay, we still have Steph and he's still elite.

1645
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 5: Draymond serves his role when he's actually on the court,

1646
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 5: but we have to start getting younger and we have

1647
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:23,799
Speaker 5: to start getting more dynamic.

1648
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 4: Now.

1649
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 5: Again, I think to your point, this is an organization

1650
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 5: that is used to winning at very, very very high levels.

1651
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 5: And I don't think a complete teardown will work it,

1652
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 5: nor should it, because you still have Steph Curry and

1653
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 5: Draymond Green. But yeah, that's what this feels like to me,

1654
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 5: is kind of an acknowledgment. We have to get younger,

1655
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 5: we have to get more dynamic. But again, I don't

1656
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 5: know what that piece is out there that puts them

1657
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 5: back in the mix because and I think this is

1658
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 5: a lot of the stuff that we talked about with

1659
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 5: the Lakers earlier. Is you know, this league, even in

1660
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 5: the last two years, two and a half years, three years,

1661
01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 5: it has changed quite a bit, and it feels like

1662
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,799
Speaker 5: a ver league, a Boston league, maybe a Knicks league

1663
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 5: with the move that they made this week, and it

1664
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 5: just feels like, you know, the Warriors and the Lakers

1665
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,720
Speaker 5: both you know, biggest stars but I don't know that

1666
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 5: either as really a contender as they're currently constructed.

1667
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this, what is it franchise?

1668
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:24,799
Speaker 2: Oh, it's Lifetime Superstar as that Superstar ages.

1669
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 4: Well let me jump in.

1670
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 5: I there is a mutual oh you know, like like

1671
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 5: Klay Thompson is, and I don't.

1672
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 4: Know exactly what he's asked for.

1673
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 5: And again, you live in the Bay Area, maybe you

1674
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 5: know a little bit more on exactly what he expects,

1675
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 5: whether it's salary, role, whatever. But I just bring it

1676
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 5: up because what is the franchise? Oh, the player, but

1677
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,240
Speaker 5: what is the player also the franchise. And I'm not saying, oh,

1678
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 5: you know, I'm always pro management and pro ownership and

1679
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 5: screw the players. That's not what I'm saying at all.

1680
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 5: But what I am saying is, if you know, maybe

1681
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 5: he doesn't know, but you're not the same player you

1682
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 5: were pre injury four five, six years ago. To your point,

1683
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:08,919
Speaker 5: they gave him a MAX extension following the first injury,

1684
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 5: and like, you know, how much does the organization owe him?

1685
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 5: I don't know, but how much does he owe the organization?

1686
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 5: And again it's why I understand the stance of both

1687
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:22,280
Speaker 5: sides but I also understand the stance of and this

1688
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 5: gets into again a little bit of what we just

1689
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 5: talked about with Paul George a minute ago, is that

1690
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 5: at some point you have to.

1691
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 4: Meet in the middle.

1692
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 5: It can't be all in favor of Klay Thompson or

1693
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 5: all in favor of the Warriors, or one side feels

1694
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 5: like they're getting screwed. Same with Paul George and the Clippers.

1695
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 5: By the way, this is the problem with Lebron and

1696
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 5: the Lakers. It feels like Lebron at this point is

1697
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 5: taking a lot more than he's giving an organization that

1698
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:46,879
Speaker 5: lost in the first round of the playoffs.

1699
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 3: So if you're not.

1700
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 5: Gonna meet in the middle, I don't think you can

1701
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 5: sit here and say the organization owes Clay XYZ if

1702
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 5: Clay isn't willing to give up a little bit of

1703
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 5: X y Z as.

1704
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 2: Well, okay, fair enough, But let me transfer it to

1705
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 2: a differ from Star And this is where I think

1706
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 2: teams at right there are teams that I think have

1707
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 2: different behaviors here, and that is the Stars that are staying.

1708
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 2: In other words, Steph Curry, thirty six years old, what

1709
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 2: the fan base has been told for a while now

1710
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 2: is that the organization feels as if it owes Steph

1711
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 2: Curry every effort to win now, even though it may

1712
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 2: or may not be the smartest thing. Would they give

1713
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 2: up any young assets to try to win now even

1714
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 2: though their core is in their mid thirties and usually

1715
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 2: teams don't do well in that situation. And what we've

1716
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 2: been told is that the organization firmly believes that it

1717
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 2: owes Steph Curry everything, absolutely every effort. Now, compare it

1718
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 2: to what the Lakers just did. A non lifetime star,

1719
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: one who who is very different than the franchise legends

1720
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 2: that actually lead the Laker brand. And the Lakers have

1721
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 2: clearly similar to almost every Lebron James stop. They've bent

1722
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 2: over backwards and done everything that he's asked. Like this offseason,

1723
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 2: maybe more than ever before. What happened this offseason the

1724
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Lakers hired his co host to coach and drafted his son.

1725
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 2: They are literally saying, Lebron, you tell us what you

1726
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,599
Speaker 2: want and we'll do it now. Is the same thing

1727
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 2: owed to a Steph Curry type? And if so, I

1728
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 2: would argue that the first line of what the Warriors

1729
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 2: have said, they're trying to do. They very much did

1730
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 2: not do it. I could see Steph Curry being a

1731
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:52,519
Speaker 2: little stressed out today.

1732
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 5: So are you I guess what I would ask you?

1733
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 5: Are you implying? Because I think there's two contradictory things.

1734
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 5: If you're really and again again it kind of goes

1735
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 5: to the Lakers. If you're really about winning at the

1736
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:10,759
Speaker 5: highest level right now with Steph Curry, is Klay Thompson

1737
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 5: really one of those pieces? But then the counter to

1738
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 5: that is, if you also want to make Steph Curry happy,

1739
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 5: you probably figure out a way to keep it. So

1740
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 5: it's clear they're they're leaning more towards A than B.

1741
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 5: But is that unfair for me to say what I

1742
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:26,160
Speaker 5: kind of the way I just laid it out right there.

1743
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's unfair. It's not unfair.

1744
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 2: Well, no, you're meaning to Uh no, it's well, we're

1745
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 2: not done yet. We're not done yet. And and and

1746
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 2: look when when uh, when you try to trade, the

1747
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 2: other team has to want to trade back. So I

1748
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 2: don't put this entire situation on on the doorstep of

1749
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 2: one team.

1750
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,480
Speaker 3: You have to have willing partners.

1751
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:58,840
Speaker 2: And we're just getting started, we're only four hours in.

1752
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 2: But the sto art that some of these teams, and

1753
01:34:02,160 --> 01:34:04,599
Speaker 2: the Warriors are one of them. The start that these

1754
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 2: teams are off to suggest to me that at least

1755
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 2: it's fair to ask, are you saying.

1756
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 3: One thing and doing another in an effort to save money?

1757
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 5: Well, maybe we come back and talk about that, because

1758
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 5: I'd be curious from your perspective. I don't know that

1759
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 5: they are, but again, you cover this team, You're around

1760
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 5: this team every day, and I would actually be genuinely

1761
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 5: curious for your perspective on that exact question.

1762
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 3: Well, then let's do that.

1763
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,679
Speaker 2: Coming up next, Mark whelerd Aaron Tois Fox Sports Radio

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01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:35,880
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01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:38,639
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1766
01:34:38,680 --> 01:34:44,040
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1769
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1770
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1772
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,679
Speaker 2: we get off the air at a about Paul George

1773
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 2: Lebron James, about the way James are reported Lebron, Yeah,

1774
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:13,400
Speaker 2: Bronni James Klay Thompson. All of it still relevant because

1775
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 2: free agency is moving slower than it used to. Almost

1776
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 2: no free agents have actually changed teams. There have been

1777
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 2: a couple, and and we're talking like C level players.

1778
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 2: But one thing's very very clear to me, and that

1779
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 2: is these new rules of the CBA. If you don't

1780
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 2: want to take the time or the entire month to

1781
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 2: read everything and understand what it's all about, just know this.

1782
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 2: It It has It has slowed movement, and it has

1783
01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 2: slowed money for sure.

1784
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:50,719
Speaker 3: Zero does yep yep.

1785
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 2: So what's the what's the what's the question in the

1786
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:55,639
Speaker 2: way that you want to phrase it that we were

1787
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 2: just talking about?

1788
01:35:56,640 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 5: Oh man, well, I don't even remember exactly how it

1789
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 5: was framed going out, but we were kind of talking

1790
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 5: the Warriors being fully committed to taking advantage of the

1791
01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 5: final couple years of Steph Curry's prime. If you want

1792
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 5: to call it that. Maybe you know him as a

1793
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 5: as an elite player. And I think the question was

1794
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 5: about should that not will it because it appears as

1795
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 5: though it will not, But should it include Klay Thompson?

1796
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 5: And if you are all in, is Klay Thompson a

1797
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 5: missing piece? I forget exactly how you framed it right

1798
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 5: before the break, But I thought it was a really

1799
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 5: good framing, and so I wanted your opinion on it

1800
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 5: because obviously you're a guy who's around that organization three

1801
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 5: or sixty five days a year.

1802
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it could have included Klay Thompson. Didn't

1803
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:47,640
Speaker 2: necessarily hop to include Klay Thompson. The Clay part is

1804
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 2: much more emotional than it is X's and O's.

1805
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 3: And here's the bottom line.

1806
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 2: Brian Windhorse, a couple of years ago, when the Warriors

1807
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 2: won a championship, he referred to it as a checkbook championship,

1808
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 2: and that's stuck. That's something that still gets talked about

1809
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 2: in the Bay Area of that comment, largely because I

1810
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 2: think it was a little bit dismissive of some certain

1811
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 2: people on the court. But the other side to it

1812
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 2: is there was some truth to it, at least in

1813
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:20,679
Speaker 2: terms of dollars and cents. They have been championship, yes,

1814
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 2: but I mean since then they have been the most

1815
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:27,719
Speaker 2: expensive roster in basketball and it has not been close.

1816
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 2: And so when you do that, when Joe Lacup and

1817
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 2: the others do that and you win a championship, you're fine.

1818
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 2: When you do that and you go to seven games

1819
01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 2: with the Sacramento Kings and you win, and then you

1820
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,719
Speaker 2: go to six more with the Lakers and you lose,

1821
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,200
Speaker 2: you look at that and go, well, I was disappointing,

1822
01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 2: but okay, thirteen playoff games and right like felt like

1823
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 2: a little bit of a run.

1824
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 3: When you're the ten seed and you.

1825
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 2: Drive an hour and a half north to play your

1826
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 2: supposed little brother and get blown off the court by

1827
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:14,040
Speaker 2: thirty points and don't even make the playoffs, you know

1828
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 2: that check gets ripped in half. Sure, and so the

1829
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:22,320
Speaker 2: ownership is like, we are completely willing to spend, but

1830
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 2: only if it's realistically going to be something that competes.

1831
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 2: And so the Warriors, I thought the issue here was

1832
01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 2: just timing. That's really all it was. Did they want

1833
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 2: Clay back? Of course they they want Clay back. But

1834
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:42,559
Speaker 2: could they offer to their fans and to the roster

1835
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 2: itself the exact same group again, No.

1836
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 3: No, of course they can't.

1837
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,759
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, for the same reason that they can't trade

1838
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 2: Steph Curry for those who want them to just go

1839
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:59,400
Speaker 2: into full rebuild mode. Like there's a business office aspect

1840
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 2: to all of this. It's one thing to be like

1841
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,679
Speaker 2: the standings and are they are you a top four

1842
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 2: seed and can you win the whole thing?

1843
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 3: You also have to be a product.

1844
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 2: You have to be interesting, You have to get excitement

1845
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 2: about your team. And uh and the Warriors bringing back

1846
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 2: the same group would have been in a lot of trouble.

1847
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 2: And it's the same reason I made the comment moments

1848
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 2: ago they might be in trouble this time because right

1849
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 2: now that's exactly what they are. They're the same group,

1850
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 2: except for even worse because they've lost a couple of

1851
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 2: that same group.

1852
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 5: No, it's it's you know, And I think that that

1853
01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 5: that is the most interesting part of a situation like

1854
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 5: Klay Thompson, which is that essentially you have to make

1855
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 5: that tough decision between the sentimentality of all those championships

1856
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 5: won together, all those NBA Finals appearances, but it is still, ultimately,

1857
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, a business decision. And

1858
01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:56,559
Speaker 5: that's why it goes back to what we talked about

1859
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 5: before the break, which is that I don't think either

1860
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 5: side is wrong. I think Clay thinks that he still

1861
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:06,360
Speaker 5: has something left in the tank. Some of us might disagree,

1862
01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 5: but if somebody is willing to pay him what he

1863
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 5: believes is market value. Is it's hard for me to criticize.

1864
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 5: I'll give you a very random example, but when John Caliperry,

1865
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,480
Speaker 5: and I know everything goes back to college basketball.

1866
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 3: But whatever, damn no.

1867
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,640
Speaker 5: But when John cal Perry left Kentucky for Arkansas, I

1868
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 5: kind of sat there and said, you know what, dude,

1869
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,559
Speaker 5: you just lost to Oakland. You're in your sixties, you

1870
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 5: had what most people deem to be the first, second,

1871
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:34,200
Speaker 5: third best job in the sport. Why you leave it

1872
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 5: to just retire? Dude, you're sixty five, you have more

1873
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 5: money than you'll ever spend.

1874
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:37,840
Speaker 3: Whatever.

1875
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 4: Then he kind of gave a speech afterward. He gave

1876
01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,520
Speaker 4: a little going going away video.

1877
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 5: After he accepted the Arkansas job, and he said, listen,

1878
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:51,160
Speaker 5: I think it's time for this this this program to

1879
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 5: have a new voice, a new leader. I think my

1880
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 5: voice got a little bit stale. But I love being

1881
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 5: in the gym and coaching kids, and you know, I

1882
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 5: think my voice still will carry away somewhere. And I

1883
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,200
Speaker 5: hope that this program has great whatever years and I

1884
01:41:03,240 --> 01:41:06,320
Speaker 5: have great whatever years whatever. And when he made that speech,

1885
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:10,599
Speaker 5: it really struck me. Who am I to say that

1886
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:13,360
Speaker 5: this guy should If somebody is willing to pay him

1887
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 5: to do the job, who am I to say that

1888
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:17,679
Speaker 5: he should retire? And I kind of feel the same

1889
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:20,599
Speaker 5: way with Klay Thompson. Is yes, I wish in a

1890
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 5: fairytale world where you know, it's all rainbows and sunshines

1891
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:28,599
Speaker 5: and con candy, that Clay could retire a Golden State Warrior.

1892
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 5: But the Warriors have a business decision to make. There's

1893
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 5: a business element to what they're doing, and you know,

1894
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 5: you can't just completely dismiss all those business elements because again,

1895
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 5: then you maybe get rid of staff, maybe you get

1896
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 5: rid of Draymond, maybe you just completely start from scratch.

1897
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 5: But they have a business to run. But if somebody

1898
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 5: still wants to pay Klay Thompson more money than the

1899
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 5: Golden State Warriors are willing to offer him because they

1900
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 5: believe he has more left in the tank than the

1901
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 5: Golden State Warriors do, then I don't think, and I

1902
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 5: don't necessarily even think that Golden State Warrior fans feel

1903
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,559
Speaker 5: a certain way about it. But I don't think anybody

1904
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 5: should feel a certain way about it. If the Orlando

1905
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:07,360
Speaker 5: Magic or the Dallas Mavericks, or whoever it is, the

1906
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 5: Los Angeles Lakers believe that there's a bigger role for

1907
01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 5: Clay to play and a bigger salary than he can

1908
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 5: get in Golden State. We shouldn't begrudge either side, the

1909
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 5: Golden State side or the Clay Thompson side for deciding

1910
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 5: that we wish we could have made it work, but

1911
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 5: we just can't.

1912
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:26,719
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I'm with you one hundred percent.

1913
01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 2: I think the corek here is that he may end

1914
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 2: up making less than what he was offered at Golden State,

1915
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 2: and that's what brings kind of the emotion into it.

1916
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 3: But I've learned this three years.

1917
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:40,719
Speaker 2: I know a lot of us look at NBA players

1918
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,599
Speaker 2: and we're like, oh my gosh, You're like Clay, You've

1919
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 2: made a quarter of a billion dollars. Like, what's the

1920
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 2: difference next year between making twenty five million and making

1921
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 2: seventeen million. I've learned this, Aaron, the answer from a

1922
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 2: rich person, what's the difference between seventeen and twenty five

1923
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:02,559
Speaker 2: million dollars? The answer is eight million dollars. On the answer,

1924
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:06,160
Speaker 2: that's the answer.

1925
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,800
Speaker 5: No I was gonna say, was you know, I'm I'm

1926
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 5: not quite at my fortieth birthday, yet I still got

1927
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 5: a little bit of time.

1928
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 3: God, are you still that young?

1929
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:17,600
Speaker 5: I'm still on my my you know, I'm on the

1930
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 5: back half of my thirties. But I bring it up

1931
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 5: to say, and all my time on uh, on this earth,

1932
01:43:22,360 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 5: I have yet to hear one person say, you know what,

1933
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 5: I got enough money.

1934
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:30,559
Speaker 3: I'm good. So we're good. We're we're all good on money.

1935
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 2: Speaking of people who haven't reached their fortieth birthday, let's

1936
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:34,840
Speaker 2: go live to Steve to Sager.

1937
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Hello Steve, good afternoon, bless you. Yeah

1938
01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 3: to the NBA news. It's free.

1939
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 7: Agency's negotiating windows started today.

1940
01:43:45,160 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 4: Uh and Mark Stein, longtime.

1941
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 7: NBA writer, said this that the Dallas Mavericks, for one,

1942
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 7: I had a hope earlier today that they had a

1943
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:56,160
Speaker 7: path to somehow land Clay Thompson and keep Derek Jones,

1944
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 7: but Dallas pivoted in citing Naji Marshl's his league. So

1945
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 7: Horses say after unexpectedly conceding tonight, that they would likely

1946
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 7: not have the wherewithal to retain Jones while the MAVs

1947
01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:12,719
Speaker 7: focus on the sign and trade pursuit of Clay Thompson.

1948
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 7: His sources say the Dallas MAVs are still focused on

1949
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 7: securing a commitment from Clay completing a sign in trade

1950
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 7: that would land Thompson into Dallas's looming trade exception from

1951
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 7: Tim Hardaway Junior. As for James Harden and the Clippers,

1952
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 7: he's resigning with them two years, seventy million dollars, including

1953
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 7: a player option. Paul George opted out of his contract,

1954
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,640
Speaker 7: and George was due to talk to Philadelphia tonight. He

1955
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 7: will not resign with the Clippers. The team says. Philadelphia

1956
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:43,599
Speaker 7: is signing Andre Drummond and Eric Gordon. Golden State waived

1957
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 7: Chris Paul and he intends to sign with the Spurs

1958
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:49,320
Speaker 7: one year about eleven million dollars. The Wizards get center

1959
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 7: Jonas Valen Schuniz three years thirty million. Or Lando agreed

1960
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 7: to a deal with Contavious Caldwell Pope three years sixty

1961
01:44:56,200 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 7: six million dollars, including a player option. The Pacers are

1962
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 7: resign Obi Toppin four years sixty million dollars. Miami re

1963
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 7: signed Kevin Love. The new league year opens this Saturday.

1964
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 7: The new salary cap is about one hundred and forty

1965
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:14,240
Speaker 7: million dollars per team. Detroit plans to give Cad Cunningham

1966
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:17,759
Speaker 7: a five year max rookie extension worth two hundred twenty

1967
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 7: six million dollars. The Pistons new head coach will be JB.

1968
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 7: Bickerstaff on a reported five year contract. He had just

1969
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 7: been let go by Cleveland. Monty Williams was let go

1970
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 7: after one season in Detroit by new management there. The

1971
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 7: Pistons just went fourteen and sixty eight three WNBA games

1972
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,800
Speaker 7: New York Sabrina Yenescu was three of seventeen shooting from

1973
01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:41,040
Speaker 7: the floor, but they still beat Atlanta eighty one seventy five.

1974
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 7: Minnesota was a winner at Chicago seventy to sixty two

1975
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 7: despite sixteen more rebounds from Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark

1976
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 7: in an Indiana win at fifteen points, nine rebounds, twelve

1977
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 7: assists and six turnovers, but her team won at Phoenix

1978
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 7: eighty eight eighty two. They said on the telecast that's

1979
01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 7: the first time Indiana has beaten a F five hundred

1980
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 7: club or better on their schedule so far this year.

1981
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 7: In Copa America, tonight on Fox TV, attendance in Arizona

1982
01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 7: sixty two thousand to watch Mexico not score again. Mexico

1983
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 7: is out it tied Ecuador zero zero. Mexico needed a

1984
01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 7: win to advance. They outshot their opponent nineteen to nine,

1985
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 7: but they're done, scoring just one goal in three games,

1986
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 7: and yeah eliminated due to gold differential. So it'll be

1987
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 7: Ecuador against Argentina Thursday, July fourth in a quarterfinal. Venezuela

1988
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:33,720
Speaker 7: surprising three to zero beat last place Jamaica three to nine.

1989
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 3: Thing tonight.

1990
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 7: The US plays Monday night and will likely need to

1991
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,839
Speaker 7: beat not tie first place Uruguay and its group to advance.

1992
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 7: That game from Kansas City tomorrow is on FS one.

1993
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 7: At the Euros in the round of sixteen, England came

1994
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 7: back for an overtime win over Slovakia two to one.

1995
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 7: Spain beat Georgia four to one. NASCAR win tonight in

1996
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 7: overtime at Nashville for Joey Logano. Simone Biles has won

1997
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:58,440
Speaker 7: the gymnastics all around at the US Trials Sidney McLoughlin.

1998
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 7: Laveron won the only won the four entimeter hurdles, broke

1999
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 7: the world record again in her event, and the US

2000
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,600
Speaker 7: Olympic Trials in Oregon. She won her final by two seconds.

2001
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 7: Cam Davis took the PGA event in Detroit in baseball

2002
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 7: at Baltimore tonight, Texas ended a six game losing streak

2003
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 7: with an eleven to two final against the Orioles. Wyatt

2004
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 7: Langford hit for the cycle, had four hits, four RBIs.

2005
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 7: Houston in eleven innings, beat the Mets in New York

2006
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 7: ten to five. Colorado in fourteen innings won five to

2007
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 7: four at the White Sox. This is iraqis team that had

2008
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 7: lost five straight on the road. It was eleven and

2009
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 7: thirty one. But perhaps you've not heard. The White Sox

2010
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:37,320
Speaker 7: are not good this year. The guy who took the

2011
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 7: loss going four innings in relief in the extra innings,

2012
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 7: Mike Soroka is zero to eight now this season, and

2013
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 7: the White Sox offense with runners in scoring position won

2014
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 7: for eighteen. Today they lose in fourteen innings. Back to you,

2015
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:58,200
Speaker 7: eighteen chances that light right. Life's always a matter of perspective.

2016
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 7: They got eighteen hit This is it that it was

2017
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 7: very similar to Mexico's game tonight. Chances and not coming

2018
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 7: through a.

2019
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 2: Lot of chances. Hey, Steve, do you have all the

2020
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 2: soccer matches in front of you? Do you know who

2021
01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 2: played today? Did did Cameroon play today Cameroon.

2022
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 3: Did they play? You will tell you why I'm asking.

2023
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 7: There are other games around the world if you're asking,

2024
01:48:22,280 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 7: But yeah, most of the as far as national teams,

2025
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 7: all the attention is on Europe and Copa America.

2026
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 3: Correct.

2027
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 2: Okay, So the reason I'm asking is because, at let's say,

2028
01:48:36,720 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 2: seven hours ago, so shortly after noon Pacific, Joe l

2029
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:49,559
Speaker 2: Embiid tweeted in all caps, here we go with like

2030
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 2: five exclamation points. So I was thinking, either, okay, not Cameroon.

2031
01:48:58,680 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 2: Either he knows something we don't, like Paul George Clay

2032
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:05,759
Speaker 2: Thompson or something like that, or maybe Cameroon game was starting.

2033
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 3: I didn't know which, but maybe maybe so you're thinking.

2034
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 4: Maybe it was Maybe it was Cameron, wouldn't it before?

2035
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 3: I just right like, maybe I'm like what here? Here

2036
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,360
Speaker 3: we go? Where? Or what? What? What are you doing? Joel?

2037
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:24,599
Speaker 3: But maybe he knows something. Philly is in the home due.

2038
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:26,719
Speaker 5: To report to Vegas with the That's what I was thinking.

2039
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:28,719
Speaker 5: I thought maybe it was like an Olympics reference.

2040
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,880
Speaker 2: Maybe he got on a flight by the way, Maybe

2041
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 2: that's it.

2042
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 3: Here we go.

2043
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,679
Speaker 5: Speaking of Klay Thompson, it used to be a thing

2044
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 5: that once you played for one national team, you couldn't

2045
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 5: play for another. But I see Klay Thompson with the

2046
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:46,040
Speaker 5: Bohemian national team this year. I just find that and

2047
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 5: I think MB maybe played for Cameron at some point

2048
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 5: in his career. That's what makes me think of it.

2049
01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 5: But that used to be a thing like once you

2050
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 5: played a single minute of international ball for one, uh

2051
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:57,920
Speaker 5: you know, federation, you couldn't play for another.

2052
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 4: But I see Klay Thompson with the Bohemian But.

2053
01:50:00,360 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 5: He me a national team preparing for I'm assuming it's

2054
01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 5: an Olympic qualifier.

2055
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 2: But well, and I would argue probably four years from

2056
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 2: now he's going to be too old to play for anyone.

2057
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:16,360
Speaker 5: But I just it used to not even be legal,

2058
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. And now he does appear or

2059
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 5: maybe he was just a practice player. I'm looking at

2060
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:23,559
Speaker 5: their roster right now and he doesn't appear to be

2061
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 5: on it. I swear I've seen him in a and

2062
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,280
Speaker 5: obviously we know his father is from the Bahamas. You

2063
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:30,639
Speaker 5: you probably have some sort of you probably know Michael

2064
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 5: a little bit, just a little bit, if you.

2065
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 4: Guys hosted together. I'm sorry, I don't know your hotel.

2066
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:37,120
Speaker 4: I don't have your home Wikipedia.

2067
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 2: But you don't have to know my Yeah, I don't

2068
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:40,680
Speaker 2: even have one, so yeah, you don't have to know

2069
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 2: my whole resume. But yes, Michael and I did a

2070
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 2: show together in LA for for about three years, and

2071
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 2: so yeah, I have a little bit of a line

2072
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:51,639
Speaker 2: to the family.

2073
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:53,640
Speaker 4: But gets the bottom of that.

2074
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:55,799
Speaker 5: If you could, by the Eye show, hit up Michael

2075
01:50:55,880 --> 01:51:00,120
Speaker 5: and just say, hey, no secrets on Dallas or l

2076
01:51:00,479 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 5: or whatever. I think I know where Michael probably wants

2077
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 5: them to end up. I never worked with them for

2078
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 5: three years. But yeah, you should get to the bottom

2079
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 5: of this. I swear I see. I've seen pictures of

2080
01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 5: him like with the team. Very just just very interesting.

2081
01:51:13,479 --> 01:51:15,360
Speaker 7: And I'm not sing as far as the soccer that

2082
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:19,600
Speaker 7: apparently this Africa tournament is only Southern African nations, so

2083
01:51:19,720 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 7: Cameroon would not be in it. So I hope he's

2084
01:51:22,439 --> 01:51:24,559
Speaker 7: talking about US basketball.

2085
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:29,759
Speaker 2: Or Paul George. Yeah, maybe it's just excited about Paul George.

2086
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:33,439
Speaker 2: And yes, Aaron, I know that that your dad or

2087
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:36,640
Speaker 2: his dad probably would love for Clay to end up

2088
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:40,439
Speaker 2: on the Lakers, and and maybe maybe all the players

2089
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 2: on the Lakers could just have their dad present from

2090
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:47,240
Speaker 2: all the games next year. Maybe that just be a thing.

2091
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:49,720
Speaker 2: Maybe that's what they're trying to do this offseason. That's

2092
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 2: a good idea.

2093
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:52,719
Speaker 5: Are you saying, Dalton Connect's dad is the only reason

2094
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 5: that he got picked seventeenth overall?

2095
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 4: Is that?

2096
01:51:54,680 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 3: What I think? You just signed a ten day is

2097
01:51:57,880 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 3: what I think?

2098
01:51:58,640 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 1: Is that?

2099
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 5: So he's got connections? You might say, did you see

2100
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 5: you see he's taking number four? By the way, Connect four,

2101
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 5: he's taking the jersey he's is he really?

2102
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:13,599
Speaker 2: God, the whole organization is just turning this whole thing

2103
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:17,320
Speaker 2: into a big like barbecue. You're just like, yeah, we

2104
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 2: got we got face painting over here in the corner.

2105
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:21,679
Speaker 3: Connect four.

2106
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:26,639
Speaker 2: We got a dad and his son is seriously all right.

2107
01:52:27,160 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 2: We'll be back here with with some some final thoughts

2108
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 2: on all that is ongoing, including what I think is

2109
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 2: just another social media leverage play.

2110
01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 3: Tell you what we're talking about.

2111
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,640
Speaker 2: Next, we're live in thee tire Rack dot Com Studios

2112
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:47,639
Speaker 2: with Aaron Torres, Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio Okay, Live

2113
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 2: ti Rack dot Com Studios, Mark willerd Aeron Torres, I

2114
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,800
Speaker 2: mean I must say it again. I bet we'll I

2115
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:56,719
Speaker 2: bet we'll do it again sometime soon.

2116
01:52:57,040 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, well I'll be here. I you know,

2117
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 5: I am going away for my wife's fortieth in a

2118
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 5: couple of weekends, but I'll be around for most of

2119
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:06,719
Speaker 5: the summer.

2120
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 3: So just be real with me. How far are you from? Forty?

2121
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 3: What are your thirty seven?

2122
01:53:12,439 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 5: So come on, man, this coming Saturday, July sixth, I

2123
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:21,280
Speaker 5: will be thirty nine years old July sixth eighty five.

2124
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, happy early birthday.

2125
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 4: Thank you, yes, thank you tim much.

2126
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2127
01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:30,800
Speaker 2: Time to get started on plans for what you want

2128
01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 2: to do for your fortieth birthday?

2129
01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, got a year.

2130
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 5: We've had some talks. Okay, I'm a pretty simple guy.

2131
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 5: I do love to go to Vegas. I'm not a

2132
01:53:39,880 --> 01:53:42,679
Speaker 5: huge gambler, but I just love the energy. So I

2133
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:44,679
Speaker 5: and I have a buddy who actually will turn forty,

2134
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 5: probably about two weeks before me, So we're thinking about

2135
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 5: wives Vegas. A couple of good dinners sit in the

2136
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 5: sports book, you know, recklessly bet on whatever is going

2137
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 5: on in you know, July of twenty twenty five, maybe

2138
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 5: some WNBA who knows what'll be going on at that

2139
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 5: time next year.

2140
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:04,720
Speaker 4: So there's been some conversations. But yeah, I still got a.

2141
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:08,479
Speaker 5: Year and six days a year and six days, just

2142
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 5: three hundred and sixty one days to soak it all in.

2143
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 3: I am.

2144
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 2: I'm always you know, kind of side eyed at people

2145
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 2: who are like, love Vegas, don't like to gamble, Like

2146
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:19,720
Speaker 2: what do you do there?

2147
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,360
Speaker 3: Then I like the energy? What does that mean?

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Speaker 5: Well, I go to the pool in generally drink a lot,

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Speaker 5: and then pool is good. And I also, I really

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Speaker 5: like my version of like I love, I really do,

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Speaker 5: and I think most people that work on this network

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Speaker 5: genuinely love sports. I genuinely love sports, and so I

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Speaker 5: do love to just go and just sit in the

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Speaker 5: sports book and grab a beer and throw a couple

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Speaker 5: bucks on a game, whatever it is. And that's just

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Speaker 5: like my version of relaxations. Like I always say, like,

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Speaker 5: you know, a lot of guys golf, I don't really golf.

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Speaker 5: A lot of guys ski, I don't really ski. A

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Speaker 5: lot of guys fish. I don't really fish. But you know,

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Speaker 5: give me even just thirty six hours and Vegas sit

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Speaker 5: by the pool during the day, find a game to

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Speaker 5: watch at night, Like I'm good walking And I'm not

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Speaker 5: saying I don't gamble at all, but I'm just not

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Speaker 5: a like sixteen hours a day at the blackjack table

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Speaker 5: kind of guy. I'm like two hours a night at

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Speaker 5: the blackjack table, and I either win everything or I

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Speaker 5: am up and I'm good at you know, I'm not

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Speaker 5: one that if I'm up x amount, I have too

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Speaker 5: much pride and I'm having too much fun.

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Speaker 4: I'll just walk away.

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Speaker 5: I'm that kind of corny gambler that's like, no, yeah, no,

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Speaker 5: I'll just you know, if i'm you know, if i'm

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Speaker 5: up or if i'm even or whatever, I'm happy to

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Speaker 5: walk away and do whatever.

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Speaker 3: So no wonder you like Vegas.

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Speaker 2: You're able to get in and out of there without

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Speaker 2: losing all your money.

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Speaker 3: That sounds pretty smart. Oh, thank you well.

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Speaker 5: And the other thing two is and you know this

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Speaker 5: being in La whether it's La San fran whatever, you know,

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Speaker 5: like like, I don't think it would be as much

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Speaker 5: fun if I live down the East coast and I

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Speaker 5: grew up on the East coast, but like if it

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Speaker 5: was like a year's worth of planning and then you

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Speaker 5: gotta stay for five days because Vegas really, you know,

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Speaker 5: if you're having a good time, sometimes t i'mes thirty

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Speaker 5: six hours to forty eight is more than enough, and

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Speaker 5: so that's probably part of why I enjoy it as

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Speaker 5: well as because I can kind of get in and

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Speaker 5: get out and have fun without it being like a

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Speaker 5: five day thing where by day three I'm down all

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Speaker 5: my money and I already lost it and I'm miserable

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Speaker 5: and whatever. So that's probably part of it too, is

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Speaker 5: being able to get in and get out really quick.

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Speaker 5: And for us here that are lucky enough to live

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Speaker 5: on the West Coast, it's it's an easy trip and

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Speaker 5: you can can get out and do what you need

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Speaker 5: to do.

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Speaker 2: So yep, absolutely, and that trip in is way more

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Speaker 2: fun out that that.

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Speaker 3: Is for sure.

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Speaker 2: A bench Well, you like the energy of Vegas, you

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01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:39,680
Speaker 2: do not like the energy on the plane that's leaving Vegas.

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Speaker 2: That is called depression. Okay, Mark watherderon Toys. I was

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Speaker 2: just this has kind of been the theme that's in

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Speaker 2: my mind all week, which is trying to sort of

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01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 2: ascertain like when we see something, when we see a report,

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Speaker 2: what does it mean?

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Speaker 3: Why are we seeing it?

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Speaker 2: So this is completely away from basketball entirely and over

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01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 2: to football, where the wide receiver market has been going

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Speaker 2: crazy and one of the crazier offseason NFL negotiations.

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Speaker 3: I've ever watched is that of forty nine Ers wide.

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Speaker 2: Receiver Brendan Ayuk, who it's been known that he wanted

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Speaker 2: a new deal. The forty nine Ers are negotiating with

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Speaker 2: him the same way they did with Nick Mosa last

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Speaker 2: year and Deebo Samuel the year before that, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: it can get tense and uncomfortable. I don't know in

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Speaker 2: recent memory if I've seen an NFL player go on

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Speaker 2: an offensive on social media the way Brandon has.

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Speaker 3: It started out as like Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Posts, and then it was family members, and then there

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Speaker 2: was a little nuals. Yeah, then it was going on

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Speaker 2: podcasts and bringing other quarterbacks with you. He was on

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Speaker 2: TMZ this morning at the LA Airport like, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: still want to be at Niner. And it's just funny

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Speaker 2: because there's been so much of it that people sort

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Speaker 2: of believe like, oh, he's gonna be on a new team,

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Speaker 2: and it's like.

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Speaker 3: He's under contract.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he's under contract, and the forty nine Ers hold

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Speaker 2: the franchise tag for another year after that if they

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Speaker 2: want so. Again, I look at like Brandon is all

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Speaker 2: over the place, and I go And that's why, because

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Speaker 2: right now the only leverage point he has is to

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Speaker 2: create chaos and create that feeling like.

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Speaker 3: Something is gonna go wrong if they don't get this done.

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Speaker 2: Like there's a clock that's ticking, and it's like, I

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Speaker 2: think the Niners will be mindful of that. But at

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Speaker 2: the same time, Brandon, you gotta show up or else

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Speaker 2: you're gonna forfeit fourteen million dollars in a year of service.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was really funny because you know, during the week,

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Speaker 5: I don't host daily, so it isn't something that was

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Speaker 5: on the forefront of my mind. But obviously last night

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Speaker 5: on our show Saturday Night Fox Sports Radio, you know,

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Speaker 5: Jason Martin and I were on eleven pm Eastern time

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Speaker 5: on Saturdays. I started doing the digging into this, like

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Speaker 5: waiting to find more, and I was like, I guess,

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Speaker 5: And the only conclusion I could come to is exactly

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Speaker 5: what you just said was it's a big story because

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Speaker 5: Brandon Ayuk is making it a big story. But again,

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01:59:27,240 --> 01:59:31,920
Speaker 5: a year more under contract, you know, the forty nine ers. Obviously,

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01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:34,840
Speaker 5: again another situation where you would know the cap and

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Speaker 5: the day to day details better than I do. But

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Speaker 5: obviously a lot of higher paid, older guys that you know,

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Speaker 5: have been taken care of in the last couple of years,

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Speaker 5: and I just kept waiting to find the thing and

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01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:46,160
Speaker 5: then it's I go by the way, they can franchise

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Speaker 5: tag them in the future if they can't whatever. So

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Speaker 5: it's an interesting story. Again what we've talked about all show.

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Speaker 5: You want to do right by guys when you can,

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Speaker 5: but it doesn't mean that you're obligated to.

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Speaker 4: And that's just one that feels kind of that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think something might happen there pretty soon,

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Speaker 2: but again we're seeing videos. There's a reason why my

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Speaker 2: friend always great to have you again, and like I said,

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Speaker 2: I look forward to the.

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Speaker 5: Next Thank you for having me. I truly appreciate it,

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Speaker 5: look forward to doing it again.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we're going to see more NBA news

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Speaker 2: coming in throughout the evening, So stay with Plank and

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Speaker 2: Span your four Aaron Torres, I'm Mark Willard, keep it

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Speaker 2: locked on Fox Sports Radio.