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Speaker 1: What is up? Mets fans? Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Stuff Podcast, Episode number two twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Just finished a three game series down in Hot Lanta

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Speaker 1: against the Braves. Took the first game, lost the next two.

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Speaker 1: Some stuff to talk about there, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're we're gonna have some opinions on the Braves and

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Speaker 1: their fan base because woo, who did they show their

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Speaker 1: true colors this week? A lot of just weird stuff

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Speaker 1: going on down there. So we'll talk about all the

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Speaker 1: games and all the storylines and all the narratives as

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Speaker 1: well as just some random stuff going on in Mets world.

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Speaker 1: So make sure you guys are following us on all

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Speaker 1: for the end. If you know who you are, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna give you a little shout out there, but James otherwise,

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Speaker 1: how we feeling feeling good?

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Speaker 2: Once they hide all the brazz fans out there, We

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Speaker 2: know they're all here. This is their favorite baseball podcast.

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Speaker 2: So happy to say hi to all of our resident

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Speaker 2: Braves fans who tuned in every single time them and

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Speaker 2: uh yeah, last time in Atlanta this season, good riddance.

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Speaker 1: I hate that. God.

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Speaker 2: I don't like those fans. I don't like those people.

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Speaker 2: I don't like playing that team. I don't like Marcelo Zuna.

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Speaker 2: So happy or not to do that anymore this year?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the bar set really low down in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's it's not too much to say that

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Speaker 1: you don't like any of them. I will say the

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Speaker 1: last episode they did leave a lot of positive comments.

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Speaker 1: So for those of you, again, you know who you are.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you. You respect ball. You know we know ball.

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Speaker 1: There's a little mutual respect there. Where I don't have

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Speaker 1: mutual respect though, is Bryce Elder. Bryce Elder hitting Pete Alons.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't happy about that. And you know what I

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Speaker 1: was more unhappy about because I'm I'm all about a

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Speaker 1: little bit of like rivalry. I want the Braves in

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Speaker 1: the mess to be a rivalry. I want them to

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Speaker 1: hate each other. I don't want anybody getting hurt, nobody

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Speaker 1: getting hurt, never in baseball. But I love a little

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Speaker 1: little jog back and forth, a little tension going on there.

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Speaker 1: But I don't love that the Braves fans were cheering

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Speaker 1: openly for petere A Lonso getting hit when Bryce Elder

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Speaker 1: hit them. Whether you want to believe that's on purpose

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Speaker 1: or not, that's up to you. But they were cheering

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Speaker 1: and pumped and this was the brace fans also did

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Speaker 1: this when he got hit last year too, I believe

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Speaker 1: right when he got hit in the face, he went

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Speaker 1: down and they were cheering for him. Yeah, he got buzzed.

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Speaker 1: They were cheering for that. And it's so funny coming

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Speaker 1: that when Ron Lakuni gets hit by any pitch they think, one,

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Speaker 1: it's on purpose too, they're trying to hurt the guy.

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Speaker 1: And three they're like, I want to make sure that

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Speaker 2: And like game situation would like you like to believe

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Speaker 2: that it probably was you know, impossibly an air quotes

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Speaker 2: and accident, but like the first pitch and of that

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Speaker 2: bat directly in some guy's hip, and then Brece Elder

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Speaker 2: just had a stone face where like, yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 2: the worst part was, like you said, the Braves fans cheering,

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Speaker 2: Like I don't want to cheer when a guy gets

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Speaker 2: not something to cheer for, especially when this player actually,

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Speaker 2: He just like he just trashed off the player. Everyone

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Speaker 2: trash talks. This is this is sports, Like you were

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Speaker 2: know like the fame of Pi Alonzo and that this

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Speaker 1: And you know what, that's fine. They don't have to

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Speaker 1: like pie Alonzo because Pete Pete's the man. He's on

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Speaker 1: if they like him or not. But yeah, cheering for

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Speaker 1: Ronald Thecunia on purpose, But there was a couple of

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Speaker 1: understand why Jose Araina did it, and Braves fans went wild.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean they could have ended his career.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, it's so funny how when

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Speaker 1: that the you know, the bar was particularly high for

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Speaker 2: We're not saying that people over here are the ones

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Speaker 2: who with the people in the stadium, but it was

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Speaker 2: a very calm It was like it was like a

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Speaker 2: it was like a fun golfer, like you know how,

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Speaker 2: It was like a yet strong clap and whatever. It

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Speaker 2: was like it was a fun place to start, just

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Speaker 2: letting the Braves fans check himself a little bit. We

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Speaker 2: should talk about the game the Met's one though on

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Speaker 2: Monday night, because it was a very good game.

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Speaker 1: The offense stayed high.

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Speaker 2: We got another home run from Dimitris Jerome, who was

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Speaker 2: a lot to play for at the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: Like people always talk about that. Sometimes there's there he is, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to play for.

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Speaker 2: Everyone talks about the fact that like a team like

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Speaker 2: So it feels like you're not playing for much as fans.

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Speaker 2: But these guys are always playing for something. They're playing

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Speaker 2: for a job, they're playing for arbitration money, something interesting

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Speaker 2: and he was just like, I'm here to play the

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Speaker 2: later on Twitter where it's like that double's gonna earn

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Speaker 2: me more money in arbitration in that single. That gives

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of these guys are playing for raphae otega.

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Speaker 2: next year. He got to have another home run as well,

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Speaker 2: bombed the order for the Mets has been very fun

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Speaker 1: That line. Yeah, I mean like just seeing Demetrius Jerome

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Speaker 1: here in the upcoming weeks when we have a long

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Speaker 1: home stand. But I I was sorting through some cards

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Speaker 1: And then if John was here, found a rookie card

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Speaker 1: And that's something that I really care about too, because

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Speaker 1: there's always the narrative. It's happened with Mets fans. It's

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Speaker 1: like you don't want to set a precedent of losing

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that that conversation has also been

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Speaker 2: slot money changes the players you're able to pick. Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball draft is more of a game than the

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Speaker 2: other drafts. We were always drafting the best available player

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Speaker 2: WRC plus and thirteen percent power rates since then since

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Speaker 2: he has ten day break.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean vocal Back swimming the bat well,

435
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Speaker 1: I mean they're they're mentioning it every time on the broadcast,

436
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Speaker 1: or like he's being more aggressive, he's really hitting the

437
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Speaker 1: ball with some oomph, Like these are all things that

438
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Speaker 1: you expected from Daniel vogel Back all season. And then

439
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Speaker 1: of course Pete getting beaten by Bryce Elder. Just to

440
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Speaker 1: talk about Bryce Elder for a second, is there a

441
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Speaker 1: world where he's actually like a pretty good pitcher or

442
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Speaker 1: is it just like he's kind of getting lucky right now?

443
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Speaker 1: Because I know you're the pitching guru here, there's.

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Speaker 2: A world where he's a fine pitcher. And I think

445
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Speaker 2: something interesting about Elder I think I talked about this

446
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Speaker 2: with you off air, is that he has like one

447
00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,960
Speaker 2: of the most unique like two seam fastballs in the game,

448
00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,000
Speaker 2: just its movement profile and the angle he throws of that.

449
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,679
Speaker 2: I heard Greg Maddix talk on a podcast about it.

450
00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,720
Speaker 2: That's just like he really knows how to place it well.

451
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Speaker 2: And then with doing that, this pitch till isn't like

452
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Speaker 2: that good, but it's unique, so it keeps theirs off

453
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Speaker 2: balance and gets a lot of ground balls. But then

454
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Speaker 2: he just keeps looping that curveball and over and over

455
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Speaker 2: and over again. Like he leads with that curveball that's

456
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Speaker 2: basically becomes primary pitch. I think he's thrown the sinker

457
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Speaker 2: a bit more this year, called the sinker probably a

458
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Speaker 2: two seamer, but like having that curveball as a pitch

459
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Speaker 2: that he can throw for strikes and get like near

460
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Speaker 2: forty percent with freight, like that's made him good. But

461
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Speaker 2: I know that's like I feel like the pitches like

462
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Speaker 2: this are the ones that really like are very variable

463
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Speaker 2: year of the year. Like you look at Miles Michalis

464
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Speaker 2: last year, he see justin steel. This year, I think

465
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Speaker 2: steel is a little bit better than Elder, but these

466
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Speaker 2: guys are that much. Lastly, without an the lead fastball,

467
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Speaker 2: you lead with an off speed pitch and they mix

468
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Speaker 2: in the sinker like that can work for a little while,

469
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Speaker 2: but He's probably not gonna be able to go more

470
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Speaker 2: three innings in a playoff game, and yeah, next next

471
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Speaker 2: year kind of just depends on where his mechanics are

472
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Speaker 2: because that command goes a little bit. Like then he

473
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Speaker 2: certainly becomes a guy who like very precarious.

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Speaker 1: That's a real conversation to have about the Bravest going

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs. So that pitching, what are they gonna

476
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Speaker 1: do with that rotation because it is not a rotation

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Speaker 1: built for the postseason outside of Max Freed, and it's

478
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Speaker 1: kind of it Well, I mean strether Streyither is like

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Speaker 1: he probably he's never thrown this many innings. No, I know,

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Speaker 1: we we have our phone with the Braves, but Spencer

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Speaker 1: Streither objectively is like a top five pitcher in the league.

482
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Speaker 1: Is probably not he so three, four or five, But

483
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Speaker 1: we have to actually see him get to that point,

484
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Speaker 1: like he probably for the Braves to go where they

485
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Speaker 1: want to go this year, he needs like what sixty

486
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Speaker 1: more innings? Does he have?

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Speaker 2: Sixty more innings? He's also like mentality wise, like I

488
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Speaker 2: know how like focused he is and how concerned he

489
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Speaker 2: is with winning and getting better, but I think he

490
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Speaker 2: has a playoff mentality complains about lucky hits. I don't know,

491
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Speaker 2: CLEMBS frazzled a little easily and Clemson, Clemson is school

492
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Speaker 2: for the mentally week.

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Speaker 1: We know that.

494
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Speaker 2: So it's a dangerous, a dangerous game for the Braves

495
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Speaker 2: in the playoffs.

496
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Speaker 1: But we all know that. You guys know that.

497
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Speaker 2: And then Game Game three happened. I guess Charlie Morton

498
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Speaker 2: won't won't, won't stop.

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Speaker 1: Just yeah, he just he won't die. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give him. I'll give him credit like

501
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Speaker 1: he had. Like his career is super fascinating to watch

502
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Speaker 1: because he was a guy who struggled with injuries super early,

503
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Speaker 1: someone who was supposed to be a good pitcher just

504
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Speaker 1: took a little bit longer. And again this is like

505
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Speaker 1: also a bit of a teachings and patience here is

506
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Speaker 1: like Charlie Morton took him until he was like thirty

507
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Speaker 1: to be like a major league pitcher. Consistently and relatively

508
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Speaker 1: since then, he's been very good this year. I feel

509
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Speaker 1: like he's never actually really pitched well against the Mets,

510
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Speaker 1: except maybe outside of tonight in Game three. He'd been walking, guys,

511
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Speaker 1: been giving up hits, been giving up runs. We just

512
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Speaker 1: haven't been able to shut the door. See now, he

513
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Speaker 1: was not one of those nights. No, he did pitch well,

514
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Speaker 1: he looks solid.

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Speaker 2: No. He also he's kind of the lynchpin for this

516
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Speaker 2: Braves like playoff push because he had a very bad

517
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Speaker 2: start to the year. He's done this twice in two

518
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Speaker 2: years in row now and you're like, oh no, he

519
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Speaker 2: goes Charlie Morton. And then yeah, like as the year's

520
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Speaker 2: gone on, the curveballs come back a little bit, the

521
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Speaker 2: fastball's come back a little bit. He's still not He's

522
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Speaker 2: not twenty nineteen Charlie Morton anymore like he but like

523
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Speaker 2: he will have these spot games once in a while.

524
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Speaker 2: But it's gonna be curious to see how they had

525
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Speaker 2: to feel about deploying him. And then, you know, Braves

526
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Speaker 2: the team that just gives second and third chances. Marcelo

527
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Speaker 2: Zuna another home run, three more hits. With the comeback

528
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Speaker 2: season he had he's having here, huh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I got nothing to say about him

530
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Speaker 1: that you don't already know. I will say, like, this

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Speaker 1: is something that I respect for the Braves is in

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Speaker 1: the first inning, how incredibly good they are. It's scoring

533
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Speaker 1: a first inning run I mean, we saw it last

534
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Speaker 1: year with the Mets. It's a huge, huge advantage if

535
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Speaker 1: you can get that run in in the first inning,

536
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Speaker 1: just because you have the ability to put more pressure

537
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Speaker 1: on the pitcher, more pressure on the hitters when you're

538
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Speaker 1: playing from behind early, and puts a lot more on

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Speaker 1: the other team. And they do that, I think more

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Speaker 1: than any other team in Major League Baseball. I think

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Speaker 1: they've scored the most in the first inning and scored

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Speaker 1: the most runs as well. And when you have Ronald

543
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Speaker 1: Lecuoni at the top of the order who also then

544
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Speaker 1: steals second and third, sometimes it's tough not to I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, obviously a huge part of that is Ronald Dacunya.

546
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Speaker 2: I think twice the series he scored the run in

547
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Speaker 2: the first inning. I actually no, he didn't do it

548
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Speaker 2: on Wednesday. I think he only did it Ay Monday.

549
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Speaker 2: I don't remember it was Riley who did it on Wednesday.

550
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Speaker 2: But it's just him getting on and even just stealing

551
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Speaker 2: that base in the first inning does so much like

552
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Speaker 2: to the pitcher, like you can just see the fear

553
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 2: and he is, like he has fifty eight stolen bases

554
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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 1: He's also been caught the.

556
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Speaker 2: League leading eleven times, so you know, maybe more careful

557
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 2: with that, Ronald. But I think there's like an interesting

558
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Speaker 2: thing happening in base par right now, and it feels

559
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Speaker 2: like there's a little bit of fatigue around what was

560
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Speaker 2: thought to be like a pretty pretty much guaranteed MVP

561
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Speaker 2: road for Ronald Acunya. So, Mark, if you had to

562
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Speaker 2: vote right now, who would you vote for for National

563
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Speaker 2: League MVP?

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Speaker 1: Why are you making me do this? Why are you

565
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Speaker 1: making me say Ronald A Kunya? I mean, like you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Say Ronald Kunya.

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Speaker 1: It'sh just yeah, he's he's my pick. I think, like

568
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Speaker 1: at this point, I don't know, like I know, it's

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Speaker 1: Mookie Bets and him right now, those are the two choices.

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Speaker 1: Those are the two options. And as much as I

571
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Speaker 1: would love to extra rile up Braves fans, but I

572
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Speaker 1: got a feeling you might do that the uh, it's

573
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Speaker 1: just a Kunya has been so good this year, But

574
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Speaker 1: like you said, the fatigue. There is a thing like

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Speaker 1: Christian Yelich. The year that Cody Balinger won the MVP,

576
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Speaker 1: Christian Yelich should have been the MVP, but the problem

577
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Speaker 1: was that Christianelich was hurt the last month still had

578
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Speaker 1: better numbers, but you got to see Cody Balinger finish

579
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Speaker 1: the year hot. It's not neces just like in regular

580
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Speaker 1: like playoff Baseball World Series, it's not always about how

581
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Speaker 1: you start. It's not how you play in juice, not

582
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Speaker 1: how you play in July. It's how you finish the season.

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Speaker 1: And right now Mookie Betts is finishing the season a blaze.

584
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Speaker 1: Not that Ronald Tokunya isn't, but Mookie Bets is playing

585
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Speaker 1: better right now. I think objectively he is.

586
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Speaker 2: I think Mooki's been playing better for like a solid

587
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Speaker 2: like six weeks, maybe a month and a half. Now

588
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: it almost two months. I think that is part of

589
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Speaker 2: the two. And then another thing is just that like

590
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Speaker 2: talk about most valuable, and this is probably gon to

591
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Speaker 2: piss Brays fans off, but like Mookie Bets, his team

592
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,399
Speaker 2: was not in a great spot early in the season

593
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Speaker 2: and he went off from the grass to the dirt

594
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Speaker 2: and has played two positions, two high value defensive positions

595
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Speaker 2: as well as you could really ask a guy to

596
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Speaker 2: play them, especially when who hasn't played them ever professionally,

597
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Speaker 2: including shortstop. He's playing shortstop right now in above league

598
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Speaker 2: average way. For a Dodgers team that really desperately needed

599
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Speaker 2: him early and now has once again been swept back

600
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Speaker 2: into having another fantastic season when everyone was like, Oh,

601
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Speaker 2: it's a reloading, retooling, rebuilding year for the Dodgers, and

602
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a funny one.

603
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Speaker 1: Like the Bray's won wor World Series.

604
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Speaker 2: At round the Couna Junior, like I get he's like

605
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Speaker 2: having he has these gaudy numbers, the fifty eight steals,

606
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: a twenty eight homers, He's gonna be a thirty sixty guy.

607
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: Well I've ever seen that before. But it's like, I

608
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Speaker 2: don't know, like if you take the stolen bases out,

609
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 2: which are the fun stats, which is just something that

610
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: kind of the game has changed so much this year.

611
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Speaker 2: Like I bet if Mookie Bets didn't hit in front

612
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Speaker 2: of Freddie Freeman, he'd probably had maybe like ten more steals.

613
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Speaker 2: And I did some math before because we were talking

614
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Speaker 2: about this off air, and I took half a round

615
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Speaker 2: to Couna Junior's stolen bases and I turned those like

616
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 2: and I took some singles away and I turned those

617
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: into doubles, and that would give him like sixty five

618
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Speaker 2: doubles on the season already, about sixty doubles in the

619
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Speaker 2: season already, and that did bump his selecting percentage up

620
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Speaker 2: to like, like like six thirty, which is higher than

621
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Speaker 2: mookie BET's like percentage, which is higher than Kuni's. Right now,

622
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Speaker 2: with the steals between like six hundred and six thirty,

623
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Speaker 2: you take half a mookie BET's to steals make those

624
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Speaker 2: singles doubles as well. It's only about six twelve, so

625
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: still significantly higher, but Bets has more homers.

626
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Speaker 1: And I think that it's.

627
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Speaker 2: Really hard to ignore defensive value that he's giving that

628
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 2: Dodgers team, being like it's having like the best utility

629
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Speaker 2: man season ever ever all time at ry field, shortstop

630
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Speaker 2: and second base, doing things that his team desperately needed

631
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Speaker 2: to be in the spot that they're in, and he has.

632
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's close. It's close, Like I think,

633
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Speaker 1: I think right now, it's a coin flip, and I

634
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 1: think whatever side it would land on, people are gonna

635
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: be upset because they're both having historically great seasons. We'll

636
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: say this, let's go Mookie. Let's go Mooky, get that

637
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: m VA take it away from Kunya. That'd be great

638
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: let's have the Braves win nothing this year, like they

639
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: won nothing last year as well.

640
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: No, just you gotta keep you gotta keep round the

641
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: Counya being ornery with the Braves because they won the

642
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 2: World Series without him, So again the value it's questionable there.

643
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: And then he's trying to go for the personal achievement.

644
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,479
Speaker 2: He's probably not gonna get that either. Like I don't know,

645
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Speaker 2: I think I think Mookie Bets. If I had to

646
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Speaker 2: have one of those guys right now, I'd want Mooki Bets,

647
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Speaker 2: you know, for all the things he can do at

648
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: the clubhouse presence.

649
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I beant a great, great fielder. That's that's the

650
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: thing I care the most about, that glove. That's all

651
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: I care about. Hitting nothing, all the.

652
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 2: Dexterity and everything. But that's the Medical Braves series. That

653
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 2: was it last time I played the Braves. This year,

654
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 2: it was nice to go into yeah, and thank god,

655
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 2: thank nice going to Landing win a game though, like

656
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 2: I know that's some loser talking. You guys are gonna

657
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: be like, why would you say that, But like it

658
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: did feel good that Monday. They'd be like, all right,

659
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 2: just take a breath for a second here, Like it's

660
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: been a while since we want a game there, and

661
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: it was nice to actually get that monkey off the

662
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: backs and like play with the braves and be like

663
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: we were fine.

664
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Speaker 1: Yeah, nice boist crack as well going through puberty there, James. Yeah, right,

665
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: it's been a long day.

666
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: I saw I saw Oppenheimer in the morning today, so

667
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 2: it's been all up and down all day. Hard to see,

668
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 2: hard to see a movie about an atomic bomb, and

669
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: then just like walk into Central Park and be like, wow,

670
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: that was crazy.

671
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 1: What time was the movie? What time was the movie?

672
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: Ten thirty am?

673
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,640
Speaker 2: Ten through the am movie the one of the only

674
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 2: open showings for Oppenheimer in like the seventy milimeter Imax.

675
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: I could get for a.

676
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: Minute, and I went with our buddy d Oh my gosh,

677
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: and you know it's just and you get out of

678
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: that movie like like one thirty in the afternoon, you're

679
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 2: in this beautiful sun, wonderful day in Central Park and

680
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: you're just like, I don't know talk about right now.

681
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: We just that was deep. That was dense. What was

682
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: I doing at ten thirty this morning? I was laying

683
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 1: in my bed, I was awake, I wasn't sleeping. I

684
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: woke up at like nine forty. I got an early

685
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 1: bed last night in bed by like one fifteen. That's

686
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: early for your boys. So I woke up like about

687
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: an hour earlier than I normally do. And uh, it

688
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 1: was deep into like so Instagram reels, learning about like

689
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: the little glitches and cheet codes to try and get

690
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: more views on there, which we're gonna we're gonna start

691
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: to use that on Mets stuff. You're gonna, guys are

692
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: gonna se We're gonna start playing the game a little bit.

693
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: It's so funny.

694
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 2: I bet all the people who are like commuting to

695
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: work on Thursday morning listening to us just like banged

696
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: into their stealing world. We're just like, what the hell

697
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: these guys as lives sound crazy?

698
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 1: Uh?

699
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 2: That was the Brave series. Wrap it up, a couple

700
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: other things we're gonna talk about before we get to estimate,

701
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: and a preview of this weekend's Angel series. The first

702
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 2: thing was definitely the most high profile, explosive and interesting

703
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: athletic article that was written since the last time we

704
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: talked to you guys, and it was Tim Britton talking

705
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: about the Met's new pitching lab. A lot of great

706
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,199
Speaker 2: nuggets in there, a lot of the writers and a

707
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: lot of uh. Then also Vito and John went up

708
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: to went up to hanging out the minor league guys

709
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: last week because there's a lot of a lot of

710
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: good minor league content there. And Tim Britton really went

711
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: deep talk to most of the Binghamton staff just about

712
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 2: and Mike Vassel about what's gone on to Met's pitching

713
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 2: development in the last few years, like how they feel

714
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: about it, how they feel together, and it was really

715
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: just cool to hear Mike fass Will talk about something

716
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: we spoke to you guys about the last episode where

717
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: it was difficult for him to get the grip on

718
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: his fastball after using the different ball in Double A

719
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: and even last year, I think there was a tack

720
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 2: ball in single life, so changing his grip, getting back

721
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 2: the ride he wanted on there, getting that pitch to

722
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: be located the right way, getting the right movement on it,

723
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: and then just the whole Double A rotation, talking about

724
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: how they know they have the best staff in the

725
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 2: Eastern League and like they give the ball to the

726
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: next guy every single day and they know they're better

727
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: than the other guy. But John Vida Watso on future

728
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: flushing podcast. Talked to Blade Tidwell earlier this week. Nice

729
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: interview with him, talking about his growth since the draft,

730
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 2: being a part of this big in the team and

731
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 2: like the feeling they have now. So you guys checked

732
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: it out if you haven't, But I talked about an

733
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 2: article that our boy Tim Healy wrote about Tidwell a

734
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: few weeks ago, by the week and a half ago,

735
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: now maybe two weeks ago, and he talked more about

736
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: the fact that he in this article Tim Britton, that

737
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: he's changed the grip on all of his pitches basically

738
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: besides his fastball since coming to the Mets organization. And

739
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: he talked about the fact that now he has all

740
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: four pitches going in their own, four unique directions. And

741
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: I've heard from like talking to the pictures, listening to

742
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: the podcast, and listening to articles in the past that

743
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 2: that's something that a lot of pitchers drive for. It's

744
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: basically like having a banana peel of your pitches. So

745
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: you're throwing every single pitch they're tunneling off each other,

746
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: same arm slot, same field right there, same approach angle,

747
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: same extension. And Tidwell said, now his fastball has some

748
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: wrthe on it, so it's going up in the banana peel.

749
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: His sweeper is coming from the left side, so it's

750
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 2: moving moving arm side away from the lefties. Now a changeup.

751
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: That is a new pitch that he's really proud of,

752
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: says developed the most he said, describe it, he was like,

753
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's kind of weird.

754
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: It's hard to describe.

755
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: And but basically the fact that now that pitch will

756
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: fade to his glove side into the lefties, away from

757
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 2: the righties, and his curveball is just a dropping curveball.

758
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: So four pitches all move in different directions. Tom Hamill

759
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: has some great quotes in the piece as well. Really

760
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 2: really good article you gouts check out from Tim Britton,

761
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 2: The best thing written about the Mets on the Athletic

762
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: this week, the only one that's worthy of attention.

763
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. I mean, Blade Tidwell was

764
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,479
Speaker 1: someone I was super super high on in the draft

765
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty two, before even I thought the

766
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: Mets were gonna have aim. He was like one of

767
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: my fifteen best prospects in the entire draft when I

768
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: was doing my rankings, and it was just simply because

769
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: like the frame, the size and what he had shown

770
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: us as far, I'm like, man, if someone who the

771
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: right people got a hold of him and can you know,

772
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: sculpt them into the kind of picture that you know

773
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: he could be. This could this is serious like frontline

774
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: starter ace potential type stuff. And I think we're starting

775
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: to see that a little bit with Tidwell here And

776
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: that wasn't there even something about a Brandon Sprote that

777
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: was mentioned that like basically on any given day, he's

778
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: just been phenomenally good, like he's got stuff to be

779
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: an incredibly good pitcher. I think there was a.

780
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: Quote going around, not from this piece, but from Jim

781
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: Kallis that he was just one of his favorite pitchers

782
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: in the draft, some of the highest upside Jim callis from.

783
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: I think he's from pipeline, just that if that fastball

784
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: is working, that he has the high end stuff.

785
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: But I don't think I like it.

786
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: You guys listen in the future of Flushing to get

787
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: the to get the up to day minor league information

788
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: John Vi though, but I don't believe that's Sprote is

789
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: active in this.

790
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: So he's not a double A. No.

791
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, think I think he's just like I think he's

792
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: in development plan, like he's in the lab the next

793
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: couple of months, like working on his pitches before making

794
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: his professional debut, which for a guy who has pitched

795
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: in college as much as sproat, I think that probably

796
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: is that probably is a good idea for him, get

797
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: him in the lab, especially because he here a guy

798
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: like Tidwell be like in a year, all my pitches

799
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: are different except my fastball. And the fact he's taken

800
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: to it so quickly, and the fact that it's so

801
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: obviously like you can see it in the stats in

802
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: his performance, like in his comfortability. It's really cool to

803
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: like he like see something and hear the guys talk

804
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 2: about it and it be affirmed to be like, oh

805
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: my god, yeah, like things are happening.

806
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: It's cool.

807
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: And one more thing I want to talk to you

808
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: guys about minor league pitching. Jose Budo, someone we were very,

809
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: very excited about when he came in relief last week.

810
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: I think just titilated half the Mets fans out.

811
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: There, being like ninety seven Oh my god, he's doing it.

812
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

813
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: One of the big things that happened with Budo in relief,

814
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: especially until he got to those fifty pitches and the

815
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: velossiti started to tail off. Was the fact that fastball

816
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: more Velosi to play it up, and fastball's always had

817
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: pretty good natural shapes, so the fact that he was

818
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: able to throw it harder, it just performed much better,

819
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: and that was fantastic. He made his first start back

820
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: in Syracuse on Tuesday night, and he totally switched the

821
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 2: fastball for a sinker. I look back to all all

822
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: of his last starts. He didn't even use that sinker

823
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: until July. I didn't see it once, and this was

824
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: the first time he'd ever thrown it more than about

825
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: twelve percent, and he threw it as his primary pitch.

826
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: So it seems.

827
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: Like something that was like an absolute change. But I thought, like, uh,

828
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: fastball looked last time out. So I tried to do

829
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: a little more research and I looked at the movement

830
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: that he had on that. Because you can't get a

831
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: lot of you can get a lot of stuff in

832
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: on Savant for tre guys and triple a lot of data.

833
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: One big thing you could get is a horizontal break

834
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: and vertical break. You can't get extension, you can't get

835
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: a release angle. So some good, some bad, but he

836
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: had the exact same like movement on his sinker as

837
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: rice Cela Glacias the braves closer, staying a little topical here,

838
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: And then I went into it and I saw that

839
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: Budo and Resselea Glacias, as two right handed pitchers, have

840
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: the exact same extension, the same vertical release point, the

841
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: same horizontal release point, which I thought was just crazy coincidence.

842
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: And I showed you that picture of their their releases

843
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 2: side by side. You're like, oh, this looks like the

844
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: exact same angle. The data backed it up, and that

845
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: Resceseleer Glaciers sinker is thrown ninety seven miles an hour. Boo,

846
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: those average ninety four miles an hour the other night.

847
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 2: It's a little different, but in a lot of models

848
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: it grades as a plus sinker. It's a sinker that

849
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 2: he's been using really well for a couple of years now.

850
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 2: It's been a pitch that's been awesome his entire career.

851
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: So pretty cool that Buddo got a new weapon here.

852
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: I think it looks pretty good off his new slide

853
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: that savant weirdly called the color in that minor league started,

854
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: but it was a slider had the same movement profile.

855
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 2: So love to see that this happening with Boodo. Love

856
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 2: to see the tinkering. And those first five innings for

857
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: Bodo in this start were dominant, no one touched the

858
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: ball against him, and then the six and seven things

859
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: he came out for us and gave his runs. His

860
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: velocity tail down a little bit, But there's definitely something

861
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: with Boo. Though he was a guy I feel like

862
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: a lot of us probably rolled off just the way

863
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: we've seen him the last undle of years just seemed

864
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: like there was always a piece missing. This new slider

865
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: might be the piece that was missing. And just the

866
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: fact that what he can get in those condensed start

867
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: and velocity wise could really add a lot to his effectiveness.

868
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: To practice some patience. I said it earlier, some guys

869
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: just don't come up and aren't amazing. Like it's not like,

870
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: oh wow, Jacob de Grom, what a sick picture we

871
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: found here when he first came up and made that start,

872
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: and everyone was hyped about Rafael Montero. How two different

873
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: careers those guys have had. But sometimes these guys just

874
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: take a little development here and a guy like Jose

875
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: Budo making these strides forward. Guy. I hope to see

876
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: it the major league level again this season. Hope to

877
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: see him pitch again exciting stuff down in Triple A.

878
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: And of course, if you guys want to hear more

879
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: about that stuff, check out Future of Flushing with John

880
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: and Vito. Yeah, they do great stuff. They're always dropping

881
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: episodes for you guys over there, keeping you up to

882
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: date with the Syracuse Mets, the Binghamton Rumble Ponies and

883
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Cyclones and all the other stuff. So as

884
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: we wrap up here, let's go ahead and get to

885
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: the estimate. Of course, John is not here, but he

886
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: did text this one, and I gotta say John might

887
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: be mailing it in again here. I mean, we had

888
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: a whole text conversation about shoe hey Otani today and

889
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: his possibility of playing because he left the game early

890
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: with arm fatigue, which is a little concerning. But he said,

891
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: the estimate for this one is gonna be hardest hit

892
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: show Hey Otani ball. We'll say that we tied the

893
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: last estimate as well. Bryce Elder through thirty four sliders

894
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: for thirty four breaking balls. James gets thirty seven. I

895
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: guess thirty one, so a dead tie, which would explain

896
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: why the Mets losses series. That's on me, guys, I

897
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: should have done worse. I shouldn't have been as close

898
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: as James apologize for that. We're gonna grab our whiteboards

899
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: here and show Hey hits the ball among the heart

900
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: just in all of baseball, So it's gonna be a

901
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: high number. And then here's a fun question.

902
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: Or we can have a backup in case he might

903
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: not play, because leaving the game with an injury on

904
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 2: Wednesday was scary.

905
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: I think that's your risk you could take. You could

906
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: get zero. You could say he doesn't he's not gonna

907
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: have a hard hit ball, all right. I think that

908
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: could be your guess.

909
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: If that will match your guess, does that mean whoever's

910
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: lower than if he doesn't play wins?

911
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: It would It would be like if he doesn't hit

912
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: the ball, If he doesn't hit the ball, whoever is

913
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: the closest zero with or Veto came in and Vito said,

914
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: we could also have Mike Trout hard hit and just

915
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: do that one instead of show Heotani.

916
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: Since I say we do either, John tried to mel

917
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: and then we won't let him. Thank you Vito for

918
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: coming in clutch saving the day. Here, let's do a

919
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: heart the hardest hit ball by either Show Hatani or

920
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: Mike Trout.

921
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: Deal. I like that. I like where your head's at.

922
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: Let me get let me crunch some numbers here. See

923
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: how hard these these fellows are hitting the baseball, because

924
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: they do be hitting it hard. Trout coming back, I

925
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: felt like he was very sneaky about coming back. I

926
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: don't even know if he did rehab or not. I

927
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: don't believe he did. He Uh wow, show here Toddy

928
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: hits the ball one hundred and eighteen miles an hour.

929
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: That's pretty hard. I think he hit one hundred and

930
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: fifteen home run in the first sitting of their game today.

931
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: And Mike trouts Max Exavilla is one fourteen. Oh boy,

932
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: I mean I got my number. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm

933
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: gonna go here. One decimal point. Yeah, I got a

934
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: decimal point as well. Ready, yes, three two one, bang,

935
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: I've got ooh one thirteen point one.

936
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: I got one eleven point one.

937
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: A couple sticks for James for four sticks over there

938
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 1: for sticks.

939
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 2: You remember that game used to play like as a kid,

940
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: chop sticks.

941
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 1: That was a fun game. Yeah, that was a fun game.

942
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: That was a good one that was gonna make little math,

943
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: little little brain teaser action. What competition. Little competition never

944
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: hurt anybody. Little competition never hurt anybody. Speaking of which,

945
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: we got a little competition coming up here. We got

946
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: the Angels coming into town. Could be seen show a

947
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: Oh Tani definitely gonna be seeing Mike Trout. Uh. Those

948
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: are definitely the two guys to be most excited about. Also,

949
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: shout out at Wardo Escobar, He's coming back, gonna get

950
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: a big ovation. I assume I'll be standing and cheering

951
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: for him, one of the nicest guys ever come across.

952
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: And Dominic Leone, my boy, he'll be back as well.

953
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: Not having a great stretch here for Dominic. But hey,

954
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: what are pitching matchups for this series?

955
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: The Angels are playing a double heather on Wednesday night

956
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: against the Red so they're pitching matchups and their rotation

957
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 2: is a little weird with Otani leaving his game pitching

958
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: Tyler Anderson pitching five innings behind him, so as of

959
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: right now, they haven't named a star there for Friday night.

960
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not aware enough about the end of

961
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: workings of the Angels. Try and guess that. But for Saturday,

962
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: their schedule for Chase Silseth, who is another one of

963
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: those prospects that the Angels called up by barely pitching

964
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: the minor leagues, and then Sunday the Peacock Game Day game.

965
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: David Peterson versus Patrick Sandoval the Irish Panda.

966
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: Wow, big left? Wait is he the Irish panda?

967
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 2: That's like a stupid nickname for that. Nick Poula came

968
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: up with, Okay, but yeah, they are.

969
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: The Angels are interesting. They bought it the deadline and

970
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: have not been playing well. They are pretty much out

971
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: of it. Baseball Reference gives him a point one less

972
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: than one point one percent chance to make the postseason,

973
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: lower than the Mets, lower than the Mets, so it's

974
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: not looking great for them. A couple of former Mets too,

975
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: I mentioned Edward o Escobar and Dominic Leone. Also Brandon

976
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: Drury coming back. Brandon Drury had a nice little little

977
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: chunk of time with the Mets too at one point.

978
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: And brand Drew has been a good player. Another player

979
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: who was a foreign metal who has not been very

980
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 2: good since he left the Mets. Everyone's favorite left hand

981
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: reliever Aaron Loop who's Aaron lu Yeah, quickly approaching six.

982
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: I remember there was a time in Mets world where

983
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: it was the end of the world that the Mets

984
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: didn't re sign Aaron Loop to a multi year contract

985
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: after one good season where he didn't strike that many

986
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: people out. And uh, good to be on the right

987
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: side of history in that one, because he has been

988
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: not so good otherwise, because him being good is just

989
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 2: kind of like sometimes the ball goes to the right place.

990
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: But he did drink. He did drink.

991
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: Uh, he did drink beer in the press conferences and

992
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 2: that was cool.

993
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, bush lattes. He Uh. I got a couple of

994
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: Angels fans friends, and every time Aaron Loop comes in

995
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: the game, they grown And I'm like, it's so funny

996
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: because I love when he came in with the Mets.

997
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: He was bitch great. But just another one of those

998
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: relievers that Mets fans threw an absolute hissy fit over

999
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: that we didn't re sign. Was another one, what was

1000
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: his name, Miguel Castro? Is that one of those guys.

1001
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: I think that was a big one. He got traded

1002
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: for a believer who was actually kind of useful for

1003
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 2: most of the last year.

1004
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: Kind of I mean, they're pitching is not good, they're

1005
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: hitting it's it's so bizarre to say, like it's not good,

1006
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: but it isn't. Like Logan o' Hoppi's back. I think

1007
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: he's a New York kids, so it would be a

1008
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: little bit of a homecoming for him, although he's definitely soane. Yeah,

1009
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: I want to say no New York for sure. Really yeah,

1010
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: west Islip, I believe is what I just read. So

1011
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: definitely a New Yorker. Matt Feist also a bit of

1012
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: a homecoming for him. He's a Jersey guy from Jackson,

1013
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: New Jersey. I met some fans at one of the

1014
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: last games. I think it was the Braves blowout. Unfortunately,

1015
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: it was conversating with them because they're listeners of the podcast.

1016
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: They know who they are. Forgot their names, bad podcaster,

1017
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: but they were They grew up with Matt Dice and

1018
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: they were like, hey, listen, like we're gonna be there,

1019
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking to our boy like Jackson, New

1020
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: Jersey represented. I was like that South Jersey. It's a

1021
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: little dirty, but I'll accept it. Yeah, except it well

1022
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: else for Angels.

1023
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: Here, they're probably most exciting pitcher besides show Hotan, he's Redetmers.

1024
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: He's starting the second game of their double heather on Wednesday,

1025
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: So we're gonna miss him this lineup. No, Nola, Nolan

1026
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: what was his name?

1027
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: Nolan Chanel sh oh Shanuel Shanuell.

1028
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, first round pick this season twenty twenty three

1029
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 2: as the least minor league games you've seen in a

1030
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: while before. A guy got the call and is a

1031
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: hit in his first six appearances with the Angels, which

1032
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: is a pretty cool thing they have. Mike Musak is

1033
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: playing every day for them, Hunter Renfro. It's a real

1034
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 2: who's who of guys a lot of other teams probably

1035
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: didn't want very badly, and they're trying to just patch

1036
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: it together, just trying to make them.

1037
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Trying to make the playoffs the show. Hey, former Yankee

1038
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: great squid Ak Andrew Velasquez, I'm sure he's gonna do something.

1039
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: Just since I said no, you know, drinks doesn't exist anymore,

1040
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: Andrew vlastkas ain't doing anything. I'm saying that right now.

1041
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: Matt Moore has had a major resurgent year in the

1042
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: bullpen from them as a as a very good lefty.

1043
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: Carlos Steve's had a great first half for the Rockies

1044
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: and has had a not so good time with the Angels.

1045
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: Same with Rynaldo Lopez medonically own old friend. Yeah, this

1046
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: team is just kind of kind of feel bad because oh,

1047
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: messy Griff Canning, I get the spot start that's probably

1048
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 2: gonna oh okay, yeah on Friday night. But you almost

1049
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: you almost feel a little bad. This team basically has

1050
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: sold their entire form system to try and make one

1051
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: big run with Shohatani and Mike Trout, and it's just

1052
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: the second happened and went so horribly wrong.

1053
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I mean it will be fun. Series will

1054
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: be out there, the boys will be at the stadium

1055
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: maybe Friday night doing a little Immaculate Grid for you.

1056
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: So if you see us, come find us. We are

1057
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: trying to get some content with some of the fans,

1058
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: and you might get a chance to go on the

1059
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: scoreboard as well at some point because the last one

1060
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: we did, the last home game that the Mets played,

1061
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: the Immaculate Grid of Mets stuff went up there. So

1062
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: shout out to you guys who want to play that,

1063
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: and also shout out to the last review that we

1064
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 1: got because I said I'm gonna shout him out here.

1065
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: This is from a gen Z locals. This podcast is

1066
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: my first listen whenever it comes out. Truly one of

1067
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: the most amazing podcasts. I've met James twice. He is cool.

1068
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: I doubt I'll ever meet big Shot Mark and I

1069
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: love the podcast regardless. And this is also to John

1070
00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: again mailing it in. I'm sorry he can't read this

1071
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: on his own. Also, John, I saw sat at the

1072
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: second Pirates game on the scoreboard that said Grant Hartwig

1073
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: hadn't allowed an inherited runner to score, and then they

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Speaker 1: all scored. I don't know if that was you, but

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Speaker 1: I'm saying it was you. Be better. I love the pod.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, dude, appreciate the awesome review. I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I know who wrote that. I feels

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Speaker 2: like an appreciate being shout out. But love love love,

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Speaker 2: you know, talking to the boys right here, then just

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Speaker 2: getting one shot in that John. That's that's the beauty

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Speaker 2: end of the day.

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Speaker 1: Course, everybody knows the hierarchy of what goes on here,

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Speaker 1: and John's always gonna get We gotta get a shot

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Speaker 1: at any chance you get. Yeah, Yep, that's it. I

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Speaker 1: think all I got for this episode. Huh yeah. Let's

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Speaker 1: wrap this one up here. Guys, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening and watching. Make sure you follow us on

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Speaker 1: and TikTok go subscribe to the New York Mets YouTube

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Speaker 1: channel if you are looking for the video version of

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Speaker 1: this and if you're listening to us, Apple Podcasts, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: Google Odyssey, whatever it is, drop us a rating, drop

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Speaker 1: us a review, will shout you out, download and subscribe.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you all. Follow James on Twitter at James

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Speaker 1: Underscore Sean and you sounded sad there. That was a

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Speaker 1: little depressing, bringing a little energy.

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Speaker 2: For that at James and just Courciano, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: just talking along.

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Speaker 1: There it is, there's there, It is in me at

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Speaker 1: Giraffe neckmark with the c Thank you guys for listening

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Speaker 1: and watching. We'll catch you on the next episode.

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Speaker 2: Peace out, peace out, See you guys next time.