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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis bought Sexton show. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us. All right, we

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Speaker 1: got several bits of news. Let me hit them here. Menindez,

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Speaker 1: the convicted felon New Jersey senator has agreed to drop

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Speaker 1: out of the Senate in the wake of his conviction.

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Speaker 1: His final day as a Senator will be August twentieth,

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Speaker 1: so that news is out there for all of you.

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Speaker 1: Trump is going to meet with Benjamin net and Yahoo.

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Speaker 1: I believe this is going to be on Friday. They

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Speaker 1: keep changing the dates exactly. Trump says, looking forward to

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Speaker 1: welcoming Net Yahoo at mar A Lago. During my first time,

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Speaker 1: we had peace and stability in the region, even signing

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Speaker 1: the historic Abraham Accords, and we'll have it again. Just

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Speaker 1: as I've said in discussions with President Zelensky and other

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Speaker 1: world leaders in recent weeks, my Peace Strength agenda will

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Speaker 1: demonstrate to the world these horrible, deadly wars and violent

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Speaker 1: conflicts must end.

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Speaker 2: Millions are dying.

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Speaker 1: And Kamala Harris is in no way capable of stopping

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Speaker 1: it again. There have been different reports about when that

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Speaker 1: date is going to be the reason why I would

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Speaker 1: raise this Buck.

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Speaker 2: As a somewhat.

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Speaker 1: Interesting angle is it seems like Kamala Harris is trying

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Speaker 1: to in many ways avoid meeting with Netan Yahoo because

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Speaker 1: this speaks to the conflict that is inherent between the

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Speaker 1: identity politics coalitions, which we've been discussing on this program

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Speaker 1: for some time, between the Jewish voters who have voted

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Speaker 1: Democrat and the Arab voters who have voted Democrat, particularly

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Speaker 1: crystallized in the battleground state of Michigan. One bit of news.

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Speaker 1: I think we've said it on the show, but if

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Speaker 1: we have not, not next week, but the week after.

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Speaker 1: I am going to be in Israel doing this show

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Speaker 1: from Israel for the first full week of August. I've

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Speaker 1: never been to Israel before. We're going to be on

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Speaker 1: the ground with the Clay and Buck show. Buck, you're

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Speaker 1: staying back because they're actually concerned about the ability to

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Speaker 1: get this show up and running, given that you can

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Speaker 1: well imagine there are complications that come with doing a

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Speaker 1: show from Israel that are different from being in the

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Speaker 1: United States, particularly what's going on.

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Speaker 2: You've been from Tel Aviv, everybody, That's how it's going

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 1: I'll be live from Tel Aviv I've never been to

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Speaker 1: Israel before. So next Friday, I am flying down. They're

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Speaker 1: going to take us around to the sites of the

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Speaker 1: terror attacks. I'm going to be able to see for

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Speaker 1: myself exactly what the situation on the ground is like there.

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Speaker 1: And who knows what chaos might be occurring back in

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Speaker 1: the United States in our political universe, but we know

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Speaker 1: on any given day they just had unfortunately, another terror

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Speaker 1: attack in Tel Aviv. So I will be on the

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Speaker 1: ground with this program, not next week, but the week

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Speaker 1: after in Israel, so I will hopefully be able to

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Speaker 1: get a sense on this. We may have Benjamin Ntyahu

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Speaker 1: on this program at some point. We're gonna be talking

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Speaker 1: to a lot of Jewish leaders in Israel as a

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Speaker 1: part of this process. So just fyi, that is on

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Speaker 1: the horizon, not next week. I will fly out next Friday,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm missing You'll have the show solo because

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Speaker 1: we'll be in the air headed to Israel. And then

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Speaker 1: on that Monday, what would that be the fifth? I

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Speaker 1: think Monday, August fifth, I'll be live from Israel. So

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Speaker 1: just FYI on the horizon, now you asked, I was

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Speaker 1: just saying, Jerusalem, the Old City is amazing as well.

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Speaker 1: Christ and you'll see what I mean. It's historically and

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Speaker 1: spiritually amazing. So I'm looking forward.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to you getting a chance to be

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Speaker 1: there and see for yourself. I'm excited to go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's the news, like kind of putting that all contextualization

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Speaker 1: wise for you. Now, you asked the question as we

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Speaker 1: went to break, and you have got a poll question up.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious what the poll results you have seen are.

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Speaker 1: We just said, look, Kamala is a new candidate. We're

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Speaker 1: to cast your ballots, and we always say and encourage

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Speaker 1: have the right to be upset about what the result

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Speaker 1: right choice in this election, which is going to be close.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, Democrats have demonstrated that they can vote

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Speaker 1: no matter who the Democrats put forward, whether it's Joe

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Speaker 1: for the candidate, not the candidate for the party right,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who the nominee is. So we have

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Speaker 1: a relatively small amount of people that can be persuaded.

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Speaker 1: You need to go vote. What's the reaction to your

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Speaker 1: going to retweet it as well. If you're looking for

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Speaker 3: Want to get I just we used to do this

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Speaker 3: exercise in the CIA Analysis Cadre, the Society of Nerds

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Speaker 3: that we were where we would do challenging assumptions, right,

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Speaker 3: so you would set up your analysis and then it

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Speaker 3: would be well, what am I assuming is true here?

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Speaker 3: That may not actually be true? And how does that

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Speaker 3: And this is a version of that because I just

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Speaker 3: see Kamala Harris as an absurdity as a politician, honestly,

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Speaker 3: But I thought Joe Biden was too old and therefore

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Speaker 3: that may be my gut reaction to And this has

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Speaker 3: But I hadn't really sat around and given a lot

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Speaker 3: analyzing Biden v. Trump this whole time. So I put

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Speaker 3: We have over seven thousand votes in in just the

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Speaker 3: And we have said all along, and my thesis for

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Speaker 3: the polls obviously showed post debate that Biden was lagging

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Speaker 3: then maybe I am underestimat Kamala Harris's ability to make

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Speaker 3: If Kamala Harris can be Trump, you know what that means?

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Speaker 3: The Democrats could be Trump with any nominee. Essentially, what

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Speaker 3: this is a checking of assumptions right now. I'm not

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Speaker 3: I haven't changed my feeling on this, but I'm certainly

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Speaker 3: aware of the possibility, Clay, that there's some underestimating of

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Speaker 2: Look, she is VP.

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Speaker 3: She didn't manage however, she managed it to become senator

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Speaker 1: One other bit of news we should share. Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: be formidable. On the poll question of yesterday, critical questions

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Speaker 1: for the election, who's more likable Kamala Harris or Hillary Clinton?

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Speaker 2: I would have said Hillary, and I did say Hillary,

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Speaker 2: that Hillary was more likable.

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Speaker 3: Twenty three five hundred votes. Kamala Harris actually viewed as

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Speaker 3: And I'm I do not want to be accused of

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Speaker 3: being superficial here because I'm not. Okay, I'm not. But

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris is better on camera, we would say in

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Speaker 3: the business than Hillary Clinton was. There's an advantage to that.

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Speaker 3: caught off guard. But you know, people say she's likable. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean she's prettier.

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Speaker 1: And she's not connected to Bill Clinton, which I think

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Speaker 1: But I want to hear from people out there in

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Speaker 3: We're declaring the Clan Buck Show a safe space for

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Speaker 3: I got our friend Tammy Bruce in the mix right now.

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Speaker 3: She is a Fox News contributor in New York Times

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Speaker 1: Now, Tammy, big debate on the show today and then

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Speaker 1: I'll let you get into the book. Kamala Harris began

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Speaker 1: Do you think Trump himself should go anywhere near it?

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Speaker 5: morning when people wake up. Do not know what they're

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Speaker 5: going to put in the kid's lunchbox, don't know what

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Speaker 5: the protein's going to be for dinner, don't know if

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Speaker 5: it's going to be cereal again, how do you buy

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Speaker 5: ten dollars pack of eggs? Is there going to be

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Speaker 5: enough gas in the car, etc. Those are the issues

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Speaker 5: that matter. She has been have a hand in the

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Speaker 5: destruction of the ability for the American people to be

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Speaker 5: able to trust in what the next day will be. So,

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Speaker 5: I would argue, and we saw this from Trump throughout

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Speaker 5: the convention. He's a funny guy. There are some, you know,

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Speaker 5: remarks that are personal, that are funny. Many people have

450
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Speaker 5: been bringing this up about her, but I can tell

451
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Speaker 5: you when they're looking at who can they trust, and

452
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Speaker 5: already there's one life they're trying to pitch Kamala as

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Speaker 5: you know, an end to the status quo. And they're

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Speaker 5: doing that because they know she's part of the problem.

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Speaker 5: She is the issue, and even more so than Biden,

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Speaker 5: because she has her cognitive abilities are fine, and she's

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Speaker 5: been in that White House likely considering the leftist rush

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Speaker 5: of this administration with a big hand in what's happened.

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Speaker 5: So I would recommend you stay away from the personal,

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Speaker 5: and if I she only can do the personal. But

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Speaker 5: I think that Trump's strength despite everything they've done, the trial,

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Speaker 5: him sitting in that courtroom, Stormy Daniels on the stand,

463
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Speaker 5: the commentary, she's already called him a predator American, his

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Speaker 5: number went up, and he's just doing his job and

465
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Speaker 5: wants to save America. He gets shot in the face

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Speaker 5: for his commitment to this country, and Americans want to

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Speaker 5: trust the future and what she did when she was

468
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Speaker 5: twenty nine is not really going to matter to them,

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Speaker 5: but it might rile up a certain category. But I

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Speaker 5: just think you just stick with the issues. I don't

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Speaker 5: think you have to worry about what people are going

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Speaker 5: to say. Trump needs to be himself, but he needs

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Speaker 5: to stick with the issues because he's got one more chance.

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Speaker 5: We've got maybe a few four more years of him

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Speaker 5: as president, and then all bets are off and we've

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Speaker 5: got to get this one right.

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Speaker 3: Fear itself, exposing the left's mind killing agenda. That is

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Speaker 3: Tammy's new book out today. Everyone, get yourself a copy.

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Speaker 3: I've got my copy right here in my studio in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Tammy.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to diving into it. I've read, you know,

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Speaker 3: the first few pages. I have a sense of where

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Speaker 3: it's going. I feel like you're going to tell me

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Speaker 3: that when the left says that the future is basically

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Speaker 3: up in flames because of climate change, their agenda.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, this is it's a first of all,

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Speaker 5: we all know COVID is the best most immediate example

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Speaker 5: of what the establishment's capable of and what they had

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Speaker 5: planned for us. But this is a book that you know,

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Speaker 5: we've all known something's not right. We've known it for

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Speaker 5: a very long time pre COVID. It starts with, you know,

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Speaker 5: political correctness, where you have to not maybe say certain words,

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Speaker 5: and then we get into identity politics, where it's about

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Speaker 5: what color people are or their gender or sexual preference

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Speaker 5: or whatever that you have to think about. Suddenly we're

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Speaker 5: being divided up into you know, God help us, into

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Speaker 5: balkanized little groups which you know are easier to hate on.

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Speaker 5: And then we get into the cancel culture, and you're

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Speaker 5: going to get fired if you don't use the right pronouns.

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Speaker 5: And the world's going to end in twelve years if

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Speaker 5: you don't stop breathing and using straws. It's insane. But

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Speaker 5: there is a method to this madness. And my message

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Speaker 5: to everyone, but their message is all of you are

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Speaker 5: a problem. Do nothing because you're destroying the planet and

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Speaker 5: humanity as we know it. Leave it to us, your betters,

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Speaker 5: and we'll take care of it, and we'll make sure

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Speaker 5: that and we won't have to hurt you or punish you.

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Speaker 2: If you just do what we say.

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Speaker 5: The fact is all of that fear, that chronic fear,

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Speaker 5: the mass anxiety.

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Speaker 2: Is artificial.

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Speaker 5: None of it is natural. It is not organic. It's

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Speaker 5: not a new normal, and it is not inevitable. It

514
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Speaker 5: is the kind of thing that is so weak they

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Speaker 5: can't have you notice it, and things move so quickly.

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Speaker 5: They just want to move you through and the thing,

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Speaker 5: and they do it because fear, which is meant to

518
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Speaker 5: be transitory, if it's a gift, if it's transitory, and

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Speaker 5: it helps you make decisions about what to do, Chronic

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Speaker 5: fear with anxiety makes you retreat, It makes you unable

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Speaker 5: to make decisions based on the emotional base, and so

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Speaker 5: to save yourself and to not be punished, you begin

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Speaker 5: to obey. And it's very similar to domestic violence. It

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Speaker 5: is the same technique. It is attacking your self esteem,

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Speaker 5: telling you you're the problem, saying that unless you do X, Y,

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Speaker 5: and Z, you will be punished, and that we have

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Speaker 5: to hurt you because we love you. And if you

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Speaker 5: just do as we say, you will be fine. That

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Speaker 5: is the same thing, and it is it informs everything

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Speaker 5: the left does and without the individual American being trained

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Speaker 5: and it's Look, the human mind is fragile. It's brainwashing.

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Speaker 5: There's gaslighting. We're being trained to because we don't know

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Speaker 5: what the new language rules are or what you can

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Speaker 5: say without being called a bigot, maybe being fired, et cetera.

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Speaker 5: You say nothing if it's too dangerous to speak. You

536
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Speaker 5: stop thinking about the issues themselves. The bad economy adds

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00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 5: more fear. You then have money to defend yourself or

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Speaker 5: to participate in politics. No food, you don't know what

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Speaker 5: the food is going to be on the table adds

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Speaker 5: to the fear. The nature of yes, losing your job

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Speaker 5: or being called a name on social media and where

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Speaker 5: then there's you know, the cancel culture, you know, build up.

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Speaker 5: All of it is meant, and Elon Musk has saved

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Speaker 5: us a little bit in that regard. But all of

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Speaker 5: that was meant, including with the censorship of our conversations. Uh,

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Speaker 5: and the new the new words we're supposed to use,

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Speaker 5: the words we're not supposed to use. You know, the

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Speaker 5: gays now don't. The game mafia don't don't want you

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Speaker 5: to use the word homosexual. And I think that's because

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00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 5: it's based in science and they don't want any implication

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Speaker 5: of gender existing.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And for your audience to know, I'm also I'm a

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Speaker 5: gay woman, So everybody can calm down in that regard.

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Speaker 5: But this is for me, after having been on the left.

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Speaker 5: We can fight this and it can be defeated easily

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Speaker 5: once you see it. It's the difference of when you

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Speaker 5: think there's a lion in your room and the lights

559
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 5: are off and you turn the lights on and it's

560
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 5: really just your main coon. Everything is fine, but you

561
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 5: have to have the light on. I want this book

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Speaker 5: to do that for people. It shows the history, it's

563
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Speaker 5: an ancient technique. The examples global warming, the riots of

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty Antifa, the media is complicity in this education

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Speaker 5: the nature of Marxism and the fact that yes, people

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Speaker 5: aren't going insane. You can defeat it by the personal

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Speaker 5: action of recognizing it. And I have a series of

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Speaker 5: packs for people to make with themselves. The first one, you, guys,

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Speaker 5: is not allowing strangers to tell you who you are,

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Speaker 5: to dictate who you are. So if you've got an

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Speaker 5: opinion about that men should not be on women's sports teams,

572
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Speaker 5: know you're not a bigot, and you're not a sexist,

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Speaker 5: and you're not a transphobe. That it treat it like

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Speaker 5: if somebody called you a cocker spin would you immediately

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Speaker 5: look at your butt to see if there was a tail?

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Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't.

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Speaker 5: And that's every accusation the left makes has to be

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Speaker 5: treated in the same way. So I've got a number

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Speaker 5: of techniques with which we can use to break the spell,

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Speaker 5: as I put it, and we're going to have to

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Speaker 5: because all of this identity politics and attacks and violence

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Speaker 5: and threats of danger, and they're doing it to their

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Speaker 5: own base, are going to be doubled down on through

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Speaker 5: November fifth.

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Speaker 3: Tammy Bruce, everybody fear itself is the book, Tammy, sounds

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Speaker 3: like compelling stuff. Congrats, thank you on publishing today.

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Speaker 5: I don't have any I don't have an opinion, as

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Speaker 5: you can tell.

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Speaker 2: So I'm glad.

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Speaker 5: I'm grateful you guys let me on.

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Speaker 3: for so long. There was a time when Clay thought

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Speaker 3: that they wouldn't even run Biden at all. Right, that

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Speaker 3: was that they would stop the story in terms, and

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Speaker 3: I said, that's absolutely not gonna happen. They're gonna run Biden.

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Speaker 3: And then when we got into this year, when it

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Speaker 3: was clear that it looked like they were gonna run Biden,

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Speaker 3: I was saying, it's going to be Biden, it's going

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Speaker 3: to be Biden, and if it's not Biden, it's going

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Speaker 3: to be Kamala, which some of you have been pointing

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Speaker 3: out on the emails.

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Speaker 2: I've been getting that.

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Speaker 3: However, two years ago, Clay said, it's going to be

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Speaker 3: not Biden, and I think it will be Michelle Obama,

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Speaker 3: but I will bet you that it's not Biden.

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Speaker 2: We played the audio.

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Speaker 3: So the initial bet just so the initial bet from

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Speaker 3: two years ago. Over yeah, over two years ago, Clay

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Speaker 3: said a few things and thought that Biden wouldn't even

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Speaker 3: be the be the nominee after the mid terms. But

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Speaker 3: the bet was it will be uh not Biden as

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Speaker 3: their nominee by the skin of his teeth. That is

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Speaker 3: what ended up happening here. So I owe Clay a

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Speaker 3: steak based on that. We play the audio. I have

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Speaker 3: been saying since the beginning of this year repeatedly that

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Speaker 3: the Michelle Obama swap thing is crazy. I've always thought

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Speaker 3: that was crazy. I still say that's crazy, and that

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Speaker 3: if it wasn't Biden, it would be Kamala. So I

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Speaker 3: think that then, so we're clear on the bet. But

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Speaker 3: then there's what I've been saying as well for about

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Speaker 3: six months now. It is Kamala, So that I did

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Speaker 3: see it is not Michelle Obama. But Clay was smart

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Speaker 3: enough not to put Michelle Obama in the steak bet contract.

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Speaker 3: He's a he's a lawyer. You got to remember. This

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Speaker 3: is a little sly, little sly maneuver from this Travis Fellow.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I should have said this last week.

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Speaker 3: I didn't forget in real life my mom had her

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Speaker 3: eightieth birthday last week in the middle of the Republican

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Speaker 3: National Convention.

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Speaker 1: I did not say happy eightieth birthday to my mom.

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Speaker 1: She is in much better shape than Joe Biden. Thankfully,

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Speaker 1: she is doing fabulously well. But I wanted to make

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Speaker 1: sure that I said happy eightieth to my mom.

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Speaker 2: That's so nice with your mom, that's so brave. Yeah,