WEBVTT - Work in Progress: Kim Raver 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:16.080 Hey everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Hello friends, 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:20.040 welcome back to another episode of Work in Progress. This week, 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.759 we have a guest many of you have been clamoring for. 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:30.320 She is an incredible actress, an incredible advocate, a brilliant human, 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:35.920 and happens to be my love interest from Grey's Anatomy. 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:38.800 This week, we are joined by none other than the 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:44.280 legend herself, Kim Raver. You likely know Kim as Audrey 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:48.040 Rains from twenty four Kim Zimbrana on Third Watch and 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.479 since two thousand and nine as playing the iconic doctor 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:57.080 Teddy Altman on ABC's medical drama Grey's Anatomy. I have 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:00.760 had the absolute pleasure of working alongside her this year, 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:06.280 bringing Teddy and Cass to your screens. We're both big 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.920 fans of y'all's chosen ship name for us, Cassidy, and 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.440 this year, not only did I get to work alongside Kim, 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.280 but I got to be directed by her. And today 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:19.120 I can't wait to dive into talking about her creative process, 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.759 why she is so protective of and has so much 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:27.800 love for her character, and how she looks back in 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:31.520 hindsight on having been on one of television's biggest hit 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:34.880 shows for all these years. Let's dive in with Kim Raver. 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.320 I'm just so excited that you're here. You came on 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.480 the zoom and I was about to be like, hey, girlfriend, 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.120 and then I was like, wait, the internet. We'll die 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:52.360 for that. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.480 I think you should just because. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.200 Okay, maybe that's what we'll call our episode. 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:01.200 I like it. 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:05.080 Hey girl, Hey girlfriend, we have so much to talk about, 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:08.200 and I'm so excited. But before you know, we dive 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.280 into our last year of working together and all the 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:14.280 years I've been lucky enough to know you, I actually 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:18.760 want to go backwards. I think it's so exciting to 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.000 sit down with people who have such amazing bodies of 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.400 work and who are doing such cool things in the world. 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.640 And I wonder if you got to hang out with 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.000 a childhood version of you, you know, you at nine 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.840 or twelve, If you could spend time with that little 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.919 version of Kim, would you see the woman you are 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.320 today in her? Or do you think she'd be totally 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.079 shocked to meet you. 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:45.600 That's such a great question. 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:52.880 It's so interesting and I don't know if it's like generational, 0:02:53.160 --> 0:03:01.040 but I feel like the younger Kim like you said nine. Yeah, 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.000 like that wasn't even in the purview, that wasn't even 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:06.040 in the I mean maybe it's also it was just 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:10.240 like survival. Like I'm I, you know, grew up divorced parents, 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.600 very young age, single mom raising me and my sister 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:18.760 by herself in New York City and and the like. 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.679 The good fortune of it is that we didn't have 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:23.880 phones and TikTok like there was. 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:25.239 It was it was. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:28.640 So there wasn't sort of this like what am I 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:32.120 going to be kind of thing, which is amazing and 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:38.160 kind of great. And I mean I joke because I 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.320 mean I'll go back a little bit. 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:41.200 You know, like. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.640 This parenting generation is much more sort of like helicopter 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:49.080 and I think it's because we were so like left 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.960 to our own vices. There was like an ad that 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.360 I was like, would come on television and say, it's 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:55.000 ten o'clock. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:56.280 Do you know where your children are? 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:56.880 Yes? 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.160 I mean right, And now it's like I'm like, I'm 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:03.120 tracking our kids and I'm like, where are they are they? 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:04.560 You know, so there. 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:09.600 I think the younger me was like just sort of 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.480 putting one foot in front of the other and you know, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.360 getting to school in New York City in the eighties 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:16.760 by myself, and that's not so. 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:18.640 I mean, my mom was on it, but she was 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.440 also a. 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:25.160 Working mom and newly divorced, and that wasn't really a thing. 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.479 There weren't a lot of A there weren't a lot 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:29.880 of women in advertising working, and b there weren't a 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:34.280 lot of like divorces, So there was. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:35.560 That aspect of it. 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:42.400 But then I found you know, it's funny, I I 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.200 I was in Sesame Street as a kid, but I 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.320 never consider myself as like a child actress. 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.640 It wasn't like, wait, was that a regular job or 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.120 you like did a couple of episodes. 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:52.400 It was like a three year job. 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.000 Kim. How did I never know this about you? 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.000 It's funny, I said it, like everyone knows. Everyone's like, 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.720 so you're a child. I'm like, no, I'm not. 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:06.640 That was like my mom was shopping for clothes for 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.560 my sister and I and someone was like, hey, your 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.400 kids would be great on Sesame Street and my mom, again, 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:14.520 my mom was a single mom, and she was like, y, 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.160 it'll pay for private school in New York City. Take 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.400 a you know, And it was a place for me 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:28.400 that was steady and uh protective, and I mean there 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.160 was these doors in the green room that said one, two, three, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.520 open Sesame and then I would go into the like 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.520 magic world, right. So for but that wasn't like oh 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:41.400 I'm going to be an actor, right, It just was like, oh, 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.680 this is a world to make believe that I love 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:47.080 so much that I see you know, I see the 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.240 you know the Carol who was Big Bird was an 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.800 amazing mister Hooper, all of them, right, So that was 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.080 but then I think, I mean, look, I was a very. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.000 You know, my sister was very much. 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:05.760 Like really studious and like an incredible academic and more quiet, 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:10.880 and I was just like, yeah, I think that being 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:14.280 on Sesame true was definitely like a place of like, oh, 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.559 this is kind of a world. And then it really 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:20.440 wasn't until later that I got more involved with it. 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.520 But to answer your question of would I have imagined 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:29.720 that this is where kind of I would be, No, 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:33.720 because it wasn't really it wasn't really kind of premeditated. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.480 I mean, yes, at thirteen I kind of was like, oh, yeah, 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:37.560 this is definitely what I. 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:37.960 Want to do. 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:42.599 And wow, why was there a moment by thirteen or 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.880 were you just watching more TV and more conscious that 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:47.760 that was a thing people could do as a job. 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.000 I think it was my mom. 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.320 My mom took me to a lot of stuff in 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.839 New York and a lot of you know whatever she 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.800 could kind of you know, get us to or a four. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.479 And she took me to this theater company and it 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.400 was called the first all Children's Theater and it was 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:11.200 kids from six to eighteen and really completely diverse. It 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.840 wasn't sort of like what we have now like after school. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:19.520 It was a real theater company. If you were a 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.240 minute late, you were kicked out of the company. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:23.080 Wow. 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.000 And that there was no excuses. There was no oh 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:27.840 my bus was late. I mean there were so many 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.400 times where I was literally like running across Central Park 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.200 because I had missed the bus that would get me 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:36.760 there on time. And and I think, and you know, 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:41.320 Elizabeth Swadows wrote one of the one of the productions, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:43.880 and you know we would go away at Christmas and 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:45.960 you know, we performed at the Kennedy Center and kind 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.640 of it was a real touring theater company. 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:49.640 Yeah. 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.640 And I think it was really in that moment that 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.640 I was like, oh, this that's where I kind of 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.640 realized it was a craft and that it was something 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:00.680 that I it to do. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:02.239 That's so cool. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.920 Yeah, so yeah, I think that that's sort of sort 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:06.560 really where it began. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:11.840 Wow, And I didn't realize it'd be making these connections 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.920 listening to your stories today, but listen, I'd be remiss 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:19.520 not to say you literally grew up on Sesame Street, 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.800 you're a PBS kid, and then you're talking about being 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.240 in a theater company that got to perform at the 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:29.960 Kennedy Center, like public arts changed your life. 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.280 With out and how important now more than ever? 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:37.400 Right, It's yeah, I think people forget that not only 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.720 is PBS a service for the parents who are making 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.480 sure their kids are getting supplemental education at home, but 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.480 look at what these public arts programs did for you 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.360 and your own life. It's really beautiful. 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:54.040 Yeah, especially with my mom not being able to kind 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:59.320 of be a part of other things to find and 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.760 it's interesting hadn't thought of it through that way, but 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:06.280 it definitely, you know, it changed my life. It changed 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:08.800 I could see it changed the life of people who 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:13.320 were coming and watching this theater company and all of 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.080 the other kids involved. I mean, there are really a 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:24.400 lot of kids who didn't have their parents around because 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:28.360 they were working and you know, financially needed to be 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.800 at work and they couldn't be picked up at school. 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.320 And so I think also that sort of thing of 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:37.400 the discipline that it gave all of us, and also 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:42.640 sort of a center that was all of our owns 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:46.520 that came from very kind of fractioned families, which I think, 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:51.360 you know, PBS also reaching not only locally, but also 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:52.800 when we think about. 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:57.440 How it has, like you said, sort of educated many 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:58.200 of us. 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.720 Yeah, I mean generations of kids. It's so special, and 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:03.679 I hope it can be a great reminder to our 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:07.600 friends at home that it's an organization we're supporting, especially 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:12.360 right now when it's under attack. Yeah, did you feel 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.560 like you had a backup plan if acting didn't work 0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:17.280 or were you like gung ho as a teen? I'm 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.960 doing this like, I don't. I don't need a plan v. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.439 You know, I know I mentioned it before. 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:26.319 My sister is such an academic I mean which two 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:33.320 ivs like undergrad and crad you know, yeah, and also 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.480 like a you know, very prestigious boarding school. So pardon me, 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:40.920 was like, maybe I should make sure that I have, 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:41.719 you know, a. 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.319 Backup plan because the percentages of people who work. 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.959 I mean, you know, they're like they're they're tiny, tiny, 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:54.440 and uh so I did make sure that I did study. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.280 You know, I went to BU and I went to 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.720 their acting program, so I did. I did make sure 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.360 of that. But I I sort of did feel like 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.880 it was it was theater or bust, and I kind 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.880 of always thought that it was gonna go to the theater. 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:10.640 I mean, yeah, I thought I was just going to 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.960 sort of be the theater route. I didn't know how 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.640 it was going to go, but I knew how I 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:18.680 felt when. 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:19.080 I was doing it. 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.280 And it's so interesting because, Oh, to answer your question back, 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:26.679 which is I remember sitting in the audience and watching 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:31.120 one of the performers in this theater company, and he 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.000 had a light about him. 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.079 It just was like this. 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:41.520 Inner thing and I was like, whatever that is, Like 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.920 that's for me. And that's why I signed up to 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.280 audition for that theater company after I saw his name 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.600 was Joseph, after I saw him perform, and I think 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:54.240 that that's what I kind of always come home to. 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.800 It's like that, it's that feeling, and I feel so 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:02.839 lucky and so fortunate that I get to actually do it. 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:06.200 I know, we all know that there's so much of 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:11.520 it that's it's like trudging along to get to be 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:12.000 able to. 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.160 Do Yeah, to get to be a working actress so hard. 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:19.320 And also what a wild thing to talk about in 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:24.400 the context of the twenty first season of Grey's Anatomy, 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:28.440 Like that just doesn't happen. No, it's crazy, and I 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.240 know that. I mean, you joined really pretty early when 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.960 you think about in the lifespan of the show, it 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.160 was two thousand and nine. It was during the show's 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:40.640 sixth season, and six years is also a long time. 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:44.160 Were you a fan of the show and you've seen it? 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:44.400 Oh? 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:48.280 God, so were you nervous walking in there? What was 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.360 it like? Take me back to nine and what it 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.679 felt like to start going to play at Seattle Grace. 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.920 I think the funny thing is is that to speak, 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.240 you know, like a show going on five years. What 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.480 is funny is when I was doing twenty four, it 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.520 was sort of the height of the success of twenty four, 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.760 the height of the success of Grace, and so we 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:14.800 were kind of like, wow, we were not not rivals 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:20.800 at all, but like we were always our tables were always. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.960 Next to each other, like at the end or sad. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.040 So it was like, you know, the reason I also 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:26.960 kind of knew. 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.280 All of them is because you know, it's some of 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.680 those you know, like for people who don't know, like 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:33.920 those award shows, You'll be sitting and my chair would 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:37.520 be like touching, you know, Sandra's. 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:37.440 Chair or whatever. 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.520 So it was like, who's. 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.200 Gonna Who's gonna win this time? 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:45.200 And look, those are amazing, amazing times, and I'm totally 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.360 aware of those. But what was funny is so it 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.680 was literally sort of three years of that. 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.440 Yeah, and then. 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.880 I think I might have even met I'm pretty sure 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:00.880 that this is how it happened. I'm, uh, Betsy Beers 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.480 and Shonda Rhimes at one of those awards. 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.880 Wow, and you know, we kind of both. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:14.040 Had some fan moments and and so then the then 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.840 when I found out that I was going to do Grays, 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.400 it was this sort of crazy moment of oh God, well, 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.120 how are they gonna How is it going to be? 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.360 When I've been sort of like, you know, it like 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.720 we've been sort of like on this path on opposite 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.720 like teams, right like like all of a sudden, you know, 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.880 you're you've sort of been like these athletes all along 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:37.160 and then all of a sudden, you're like, oh, and 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:38.280 now we're on the same team. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.400 And I remember I. 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:45.480 Was really nervous, and really it was yeah, because it 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.440 was the day because they were such a tight knit group, 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:51.440 kind of similar twenty four and you know, you go 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.720 through so much those first years of starting a show, 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.440 as you know, I mean, your incredible success and and 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:04.080 so I remember, you know, on the soundstages, we had 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.160 like they emptied out the whole sound so it's like 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:10.600 this huge airplane hanger practically pitch black except for a 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:14.760 light on this giant rectangular table. 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.560 That had everyone like all of. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.960 The networks in the studio and the producers and the 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:26.640 writers and the entire I had to walk in to 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:30.720 this whole group, which it feels so different now being 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.240 in it, because when someone comes in, it's just it 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:36.240 just feels I don't know, it feels different. But it 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.000 was so daunting, and I'll never forget I had this 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:42.880 sort of like complete like just an anxiety of walking 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:47.040 into this group. When Sandra Oh, from the opposite table, 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.160 like it's far like if I'm at the door, she 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.200 was like at the far end table, she like got 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.800 up in front of everyone, came around, came towards me, 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.280 and I was like, and she just gave me. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.640 This huge hug welcome me. 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.280 And from that point on it was just sort of 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.080 this incredible I just thought that was one of the 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.760 most generous mind. 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:10.960 And that is also who Sandra is. 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.760 Yeah, but so that was sort of like the beginning 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.239 of it, and I was like, oh, okay. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:19.160 Here we go, and now a word from our sponsors, 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:32.080 who make the show possible. A lot of people have 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.320 asked me what it felt like walking in with you 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.240 guys at the top of the year, and I would 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:41.920 say the same, and you have and I've talked about this, 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.120 I mean, perhaps ad nauseum for listeners at this point, 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.840 because I've spoken about it in every interview I've done 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:54.920 about our storyline. But you have such a warm, lovely, 0:16:56.120 --> 0:17:02.040 grateful set. Everyone's thrilled to be there. There is so 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.880 little ego, and I'm sure that takes time to iron out. 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.359 And I'm sure you know, you know, in twenty one years, 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.879 how could you not be so well oiled as a machine, 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.720 all of you. But people have asked what it's like 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:18.680 and I said, you know, it really kind of took 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.280 my breath away. At the second table read I came to, 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:24.639 I was like, wow, every single person from the number 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:28.800 one down shows up for this, you know, and similarly 0:17:28.880 --> 0:17:32.399 to what you're saying in your story, you know, I 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.800 walked in. It was actually the first one i'd been 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.960 to for our second episode. I think I was on 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.120 the East coast when you guys did the table read 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.480 for my first and Ellen got up and walked over 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.040 and gave me a huggin said thank you so much 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:45.720 for joining the show. You just don't know what it 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:52.280 does for us. And I was like, ma'am, Ellen Bombayoh, ma'am. 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:56.840 She's she's right. I mean she's right. Like we felt so. 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:02.680 Just so lucky and so happy to have you, and 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.119 you have just been an eye and I'm sure like 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.200 because I've been saying it in every interview, I mean, 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:10.880 you are just such a light. 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:12.200 You're just so. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:18.040 Collaborative and talk about shining light, like walk into the 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:21.520 room and everyone feels it on set and you're you're 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.840 just such a collaborator and I just love how you're 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.560 like how like how how can we make it the best? 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:28.960 Bet say? 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.359 And what's the most efficient and most fun? And you 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:32.760 can tell. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:34.879 I mean, you've just been doing it for just so 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:41.320 many years. Your your professionalism is extraordinary and thank you 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:44.000 friends to jump in. I mean, so I think we 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.720 that's really genuine. I mean I think we all to have, 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.960 you know, such a shining star like walk in and 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.480 you know, sort of eff use you know that your 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:59.240 light and your talent and your professionalism and your intelligence, 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:01.520 Oh my goodness, was really. 0:19:01.440 --> 0:19:02.560 And is incredible. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.040 And I also, you know, it's funny, there's been a 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.400 lot of stuff about like, you know, women supporting women 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.400 and oh they aren't really supporting women, and I totally 0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:16.720 get that, but I do have to say every everything 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:20.280 that we do, there is that ripple effect. And your 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:24.600 support for me when I was directing and just coming 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:28.719 in also was so extraordinary and I'm so filled with 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:35.159 gratitude because that energy is pervasive to the crew. And 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.160 yes it's it's you know, you were coming and joining us, 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:42.480 but it is a part of the sort of women 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:44.919 supporting women and expanding and growing. 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:46.880 And you're so generous. 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.760 You are just not you know, there's some like a 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:53.399 sort of gatekeeping and whether it be on set or 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.480 you're like, oh, you're going to Boston, with your kid, 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.399 and I have this incredible friend who like, oh no, 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.280 I mean connected, I mean you literally she was like 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:02.960 on the phone and she's like, oh, You've got to 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:04.240 meet this amazing person. 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.080 She's so great, and she is this magnificent woman. 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.719 And it didn't surprise me that she was, you know, 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.400 such a superstar like Sophia. 0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.320 But what you're talking about is exactly how it felt 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:21.760 for me. Not only do I when you talk about 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.560 you know, two thousand and nine and the experience you 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:26.719 had walking in and Sandra ran up to you, and 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:29.560 I had my experience walking into the table read and 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.119 Ellen was so generous with me. And then of course 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.160 there's there's miss Debbie Allen. I like, I'm gonna die 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:38.000 talk about an icon and I go, Hi, Debbie, it's 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:39.840 such a it's such a joy to be here. I'm 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:43.280 Sophia Bush. And she yanks my hand toward her and goes, 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:48.400 I know who you are, and I was like, okay, hi, 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:53.080 And and then you are just at every single word 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.040 you said about me, I want to mirror back to you. 0:20:55.040 --> 0:21:00.000 You are brilliant and exceptional. And I can't tell you 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:05.720 how joyful it felt and also refreshing to watch you, 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:10.440 Kevin Debbie, I mean everyone, the crew, Byron, the way 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:14.520 he runs a camera crew. Everybody cares about the work 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:17.679 so much, and you're willing to pause and say, you 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:19.520 know what'll be more interesting is if we do it 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.080 this way. I know we settled on this idea. This 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.520 one's better. It allows someone like me who's coming into 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:27.800 your space to feel like I can bring my full 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:34.040 self and I won't be accused of being you know, pushy, 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:37.320 or I won't be told we don't have time for that. 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:42.800 We've already done this. The ripple effect goes both ways, 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:46.920 and it creates so much freedom and it's so exciting, 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.440 and there are there are plenty of shows that haven't 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:53.960 been on nearly as long where everybody's clocking in and 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.879 getting ready to clock out as soon as they can, 0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.440 and to be on a set that is so playful 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.760 and so much much fun and also willing to take risks. 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:08.440 You know, the fact this topic, yes, the fact. 0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:12.080 That you you know, as Teddy play this bisexual woman, 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.439 that you have your whole beautiful storyline with you know, 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:19.199 your partner who passed away, and what that means for 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.439 you and Kevin as your characters, fall in love and 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.879 you have to figure it out and to see a 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:28.080