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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to what is a special bonus edition

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Speaker 1: of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. I'm Marcus Grant joined

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Speaker 1: by Michael f Florio, and we've been very excited as

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Speaker 1: we get closer to the NFL Draft to have on

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Speaker 1: some draft analysts and we can dive into their insights

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Speaker 1: on this draft class as the league gets ready for

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Speaker 1: its latest edition of its new hire onboarding process. We

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Speaker 1: had Imbry Hunt on last week. This week, we're excited

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Speaker 1: to get on a friend of the show and a

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Speaker 1: man who you have seen probably regularly on NFL Network

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Speaker 1: this time of year. And also, if you go to

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Speaker 1: NFL dot com and read the draft prospect profiles, he's

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Speaker 1: the guy who writes pretty.

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Speaker 2: Much all of them.

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Speaker 1: It's Lance Zerline, Lance Man, how are things good?

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Speaker 3: Good? Good to talk to you, guys.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely want to start because again NFL dot Com, you're

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Speaker 1: the guy who kind of writes all these profiles and

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Speaker 1: does a lot of the scouting. Also, you have a

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Speaker 1: grading system, and I was going through some of your

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Speaker 1: tweets and it seems like the thing that confuses people

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Speaker 1: is sort of how the grading system works. That you

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Speaker 1: completely and can continue to tell people it's not a

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Speaker 1: stacking system. It is kind of a high low boomer

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Speaker 1: bus system. So for the uninitiated, kind of go through

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Speaker 1: how exactly you grade prospects.

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Speaker 3: So, Daniel Jeremiah there was a scouting scale that was

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Speaker 3: already in place when I got here, and then DJ said,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'd like to be able to because Daniel

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah and I talk about these prospects and so we

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Speaker 3: like to talk the same language, like I see this

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Speaker 3: sixty two, and that means something to us. Because he

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Speaker 3: brought in his scouting scale from I believe there's some

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Speaker 3: different teams who use it right now. I know the

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Speaker 3: the Ravens or Browns, one of those two. They use

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Speaker 3: this numeric system and it's there's a lot of teams

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Speaker 3: NFL dot com and so now, you know, we want

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Speaker 3: to be able to speak the same language, and Bucky

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Speaker 3: understands that, and we like for it to become standard

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Speaker 3: with readers, you know, so that readers eventually understand the

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Speaker 3: scale as well. It's fairly easy to understand. I think

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Speaker 3: the one. If I had to say it was a flaw,

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Speaker 3: I'd say a sixty five is a very specific player.

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Speaker 3: It's a boom or bus player. So when you stack them,

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Speaker 3: like in a draft board, if you wanted to stack

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson, who's like a sixty five, you would stack

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Speaker 3: camp higher than a Jalen Hyatt, who's a sixty five

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Speaker 3: that's the tricky thing is a lot of times the

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Speaker 3: sixty five players would actually be stacked below a lot

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Speaker 3: it's counterintuitive. If I had a way to wait it differently,

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Speaker 3: So until I'm, you know, stacking my own big board

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Speaker 3: and posting it on the site, which no one's asked

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Speaker 3: me to do, I'll have to deal with these same

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Speaker 3: I have jayaln high way way up there, but the

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Speaker 3: reality is a my stacking. He's you know, he's down

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Speaker 4: And at the top of the draft is going to

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Speaker 2: Stroud. So what separates those two quarterbacks for you?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think for me, both of them I believe

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Speaker 3: Bryce is safer. I think Bryce has all the intangibles

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Speaker 3: type demeanor. He's very poised and confident. Now, if we're

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Speaker 3: talking from a fantasy standpoint, and a lot of people

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Speaker 3: don't realize, I've played fantasy football for over twenty years.

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Speaker 3: I was a writer for the Houston Chronicle Fantasy Football

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Speaker 3: used to sell fantasy football rankings for about eight to

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Speaker 3: of fantasy football guys who recognize the fact that I'll

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Speaker 3: talk to them differently than the draftnicks because I'll see

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Speaker 3: different players have different values, like Jamar Gibbs has, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think he's substantially more valuable. So you have to

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Speaker 3: understand and when you read my draft stuff, you're getting

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Speaker 3: you're getting football information how I see these guys, But

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Speaker 3: the fantasy market is a lot different. So from a

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Speaker 3: They lost their best weapon at wide receiver. They lost

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Speaker 3: me right now is I don't think I think Bryce

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Speaker 3: I think it could be a little bit bumpier and CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud may end up being the guy who ends up

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Speaker 3: up with c J. Stroud even after losing Darren Waller,

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Speaker 3: they you know, there's obviously some juice there running back

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Speaker 2: So for talking fantasy, I mean, obviously Anthony Richardson is.

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Speaker 1: The guy that a lot of people have their eyes

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean from a fantasy standpoint, it's extraordinarily high.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I remember when it was I don't know,

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Speaker 5: kept coming back to these guys who could run a

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Speaker 3: You just had to. You had to. Even though the

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Speaker 3: known quantity now with more and more quarterbacks having some

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Speaker 3: dual threat capability. But when you look at when you

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Speaker 3: very valuable, especially for a stretch in a fantasy world.

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Speaker 3: So when you look at Anthony Richardson, I think as

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Speaker 3: can't deny the fact that he's probably going to run

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Speaker 3: he may miss some throws, but if they let him

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Speaker 3: long touchdowns as well. So I think from a fantasy

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Speaker 3: And Anthony Richardson to Bryce Young, it's just a matter

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Speaker 3: have to tell you guys, clearly I think would have

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Speaker 4: Completely agree with you there, And from I guess both

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Speaker 4: from an NFL perspective and from a fantasy perspective, Bijon.

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Speaker 2: Is the number one running back.

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Speaker 3: We know that.

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Speaker 4: But outside of Bijon, who is your favorite running back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Jamiir Gibbs. Jamiir Gibbs, My compound him

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Speaker 3: Iszalvin Kamara is a really dangerous mismatch weapon coming out

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Speaker 3: him to guard him. Because he can run routes. He's

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Speaker 3: very good after the catch. He's got good hands. So

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Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibs to me, fantasy football wise and real life football,

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Speaker 3: I think Jamiir is not going to be a guy

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Speaker 3: There's no reason that he shouldn't get I mean a

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Speaker 3: much more dangerous I think a much more consistently dangerous

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Speaker 2: And naim Heines, name Hines.

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Speaker 3: There we go, Thank you very much. I've watched so

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Speaker 3: many football players. I players all the times now because

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, which running back from North Carolina State

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Speaker 3: is it again? And so name Hins. So I think

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Speaker 3: he give you a much more dangerous version of name Hines.

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Speaker 3: He has very good speed, he has some breakaway potential.

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Speaker 3: He's probably not going to get more than you know,

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Speaker 3: eight to ten carries in a single game, but he

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Speaker 3: could also get five to six catches fairly easily. So

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Speaker 3: when you add it all up, he has the opportunity

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Jamior Gibbs and you compared him just briefly

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Speaker 1: to to Zach Sharbon, Who's a guy that you know.

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Speaker 1: I being out here on the West Coast and being

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Speaker 1: you thought, does his game translate to the next level?

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Speaker 1: Maybe not immediately in fantasy, but do you see him

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I do, but I think it needs to be in

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Speaker 3: the right scheme. And here's my problem with him, and

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Speaker 3: Because he's got long legs, it takes him a while

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Speaker 3: it's hard for him to ramp back up very very quickly.

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Speaker 3: So I think Smith and Jig. But if he goes

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Speaker 4: And you did a good job naming some sleeper wide receivers. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I do. I would say I would start with

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Speaker 3: He is a home run hitter. He has a big

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Speaker 1: Everybody's talked about how deep this tight end class is here.

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Speaker 1: The one thing for Fantasy is we know it doesn't

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Speaker 3: gonna have to said, it's gonna take him a little

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Speaker 3: bit longer to really get open other than you know,

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Speaker 3: having some games where he has four catches for forty

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Speaker 3: five yards, you know, maybe a touchdown here or there.

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Speaker 3: I think Mayor is just going to it's not going

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Speaker 3: to click for him right away. Darnell Washington, I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: say Luke Musgrave just hasn't played a lot of football,

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Speaker 3: but he's got a really high upside for me and

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Speaker 3: the rest of the guys I look at I like,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a very deep class. But to your question,

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Speaker 3: I think was the only one that I would point

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Speaker 3: to is as a guy who potentially could could make

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Speaker 3: could be a factor on rosters this year.

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Speaker 4: And you mentioned some sleeper wide receivers before, but you

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Speaker 4: didn't mention Michael Wilson out of Stanford, and he's someone

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Speaker 4: that has caught my eye. I think he can play.

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Speaker 4: He just hasn't been able to stay on the field.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that he could make an impact at

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Speaker 4: the NFL level or do you not see that happening?

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, to me, I compared to Mac

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Speaker 3: Collins a little bit. He's a really excellent special teams player,

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Speaker 3: really good gunner, so he'll be playing right away. He'll

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Speaker 3: be a gunner on special teams, on the punt team.

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Speaker 3: Matt Collins also had really good speed. Michael Wilson can

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Speaker 3: run certainly when he plays, he plays really fast, So

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Speaker 3: you know, I think he just has to learn to

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Speaker 3: catch it better. That you mentioned, the availability has been

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Speaker 3: an issue in terms of his durability, And you know, honestly,

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Speaker 3: I think that there's better sleepers out there. I'll give

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Speaker 3: you another one a deeper, maybe a deeper sleeper that

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Speaker 3: you can look at, and then these are pretty deep.

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Speaker 3: These are like fifth round guys. I think Michael Wilson

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Speaker 3: goes fourth round. But Jaydon Reid, who a lot of

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Speaker 3: people like from Michigan State, is a guy to keep

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Speaker 3: an eye on. I think he goes in a fourth fifth,

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Speaker 3: and then a guy named Jason Brownlee and Matt Landers.

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Speaker 3: Brownlee from Southern miss Matt Landers from from Arkansas. Matt

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Speaker 3: Landers to me is the is the one guy really

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Speaker 3: to keep your eyes on because he's got some size

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Speaker 3: and I thought he was really a tough guy when

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Speaker 3: he caught passes this year. I thought he was highly competitive.

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Speaker 3: So Matt Landers might be a guy to keep your

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Speaker 3: eyes on. And then a guy's getting a lot of

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Speaker 3: thirty thirty visits that I didn't like as much, but

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Speaker 3: some teams may like him more as Raekeen Jarrett from Maryland.

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Speaker 3: He had some juice coming into the season. Wasn't as

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Speaker 3: good as I expected, but there are teams bringing him

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Speaker 3: in for thirty visits. So Rakeen Jarrett is a player

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Speaker 3: you might want to keep an eye on it as well.

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Speaker 1: Lance, Always appreciate your time, appreciate your insight. You're down

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Speaker 1: there in Houston. Any any thoughts on what the Texans

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Speaker 1: might be doing in the first round of this draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think though I think there's a decent chance

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Speaker 3: they'll pass on it if they get a good trade off.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what they should be doing is looking at

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Speaker 3: Trey Lance, but I don't think the forty nine ers

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Speaker 3: deal Trey Lance just just too much uncertainty right now

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Speaker 3: a quarterback for them, so I don't think they will.

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Speaker 3: You know, would be a fun fantasy trade to me,

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Speaker 3: with brock Party being hurt is trailing to the Titans

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Speaker 3: in exchange for Ryan Tannehill. I think that might make

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Speaker 3: sense for both teams to get the young quarterback that

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Speaker 3: ran carth and the new GM already knows, and then

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Speaker 3: San Francisco to have a one year stopgap for brock

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Speaker 3: Perty and you've got a guy who you know should

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Speaker 3: be able to run the offense fairly effectively in Tannehill.

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Speaker 3: I think that's an interesting one for the Texans. That's

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Speaker 3: kind of an aside. But for the Texans, I think

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Speaker 3: right now, if I had to guess, I would guess

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Speaker 3: they end up going defense. I think they may pass

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Speaker 3: on CJ. Stroud if they don't see j stepping into

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Speaker 3: what I think will end up being a pretty good situation.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not this year right away, but I think it

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Speaker 3: will get better very very quickly for him. If they

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Speaker 3: pass on quarterback, then I think I don't think they're

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Speaker 3: going to trade up and go after Levis or Richardson.

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Speaker 3: I think they are punting on the quarterback position altogether,

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Speaker 3: so at least in the first round. That is, they

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Speaker 3: may go middle round quarterback. That wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 1: Wow, they put themselves in the Caleb Williams sweepstake. Then

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Speaker 1: if they punt on it this year, yeah, but I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to lose enough to be

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Speaker 3: in the kleeb. I think I think there's some juice

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Speaker 3: around Demiko Ryans. I think guys are going to really

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Speaker 3: want to play. I expect him. They had some games

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Speaker 3: that went the wrong way against him last year to

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Speaker 3: end up with the third pit and with three wins.

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Speaker 3: And I could see some games going their favorite this year.

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Speaker 3: Winning five or six games. You win five or six games,

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Speaker 3: you're not in the Caleb Williams Sweet sweep Stakes or

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Speaker 3: Drake may sweep steaks. So five wins is almost too

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Speaker 3: much wins. And I don't think that the Texans want

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Speaker 3: to keep losing. I really don't. I think you're tired

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Speaker 3: of it. I can tell you fans are tired of it.

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Speaker 4: If Young is there are two, is that the pick

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Speaker 4: for them?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Young for sure, like if there was some kind

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Speaker 3: of crazy break from what people believe is going to happen,

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Speaker 3: if Young's there, they can just scream it out, like

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Speaker 3: somebody in the building can just scream out Young like

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Speaker 3: that and it's done. Just like fantasy football where you

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Speaker 3: have a guy in a Snake draft his boom or

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Speaker 3: somebody in an auction who just says, all right, Christian

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Speaker 3: McCaffrey fifty eight, and everyone's like, well that's okay, well.

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Speaker 2: Man, well Land. We appreciate the time. Always looking forward

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna be in LA for the draft,

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Speaker 1: so looking forward to maybe catching up with you in person.

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Speaker 2: But thanks for great Yeah, appreciate it, man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely love love catching up and talking fantasy draft, draft, draft, draft, draft,

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Speaker 3: But the fantasy part of the draft to me is

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Speaker 3: a completely separate Like that's a different conversation for.

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Speaker 1: Me, no doubt, no doubt. So definitely maybe maybe catch all.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we'll get closer to the season and catch you again.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes get.

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Speaker 2: Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate Let's lands Zeroline, everybody that'll do it for this

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Speaker 1: edition of this bonus edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Stay happy, safe and healthy, Do good and live well,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again real soon.

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Speaker 4: I don't know