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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 3: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 3: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 3: Heckma Harrison, de Montrey Moore, and Newie Scruggs.

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Speaker 4: Players Lounge Time, Let's Ride.

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Speaker 5: We're in the SWBC podcast studio in Prisco, Texas.

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Speaker 4: Headquarters of the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: Got Heckma Harrison in the house, Tray Moore the house,

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Speaker 5: former Texas A and m Aggie and Dallas Cowboy I

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Speaker 5: am merely new, he scrugs to help facilitate the conversation

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Speaker 4: We will start with yesterday's events here.

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Speaker 5: At the Star seven to seven seventh officially called it

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Speaker 5: a career and when he walked in the building he

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Speaker 5: looked like a Greek god. He could still play. He's

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Speaker 5: looking good, looking, good, still got it.

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Speaker 4: So I'll start with you.

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Speaker 5: Former Cowboy player fourteen year career Jerry Jones says he

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Speaker 5: will go into the Cowboys Ring of Honor. Jerry says

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Speaker 5: he looks forward to him joining him in Canton the

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Speaker 5: Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 6: Your thoughts, he better, he better go on the ring honor,

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Speaker 6: No questions asked, Like hands down, this goes without saying

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Speaker 6: arguably probably no. He is the best office alignment that

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Speaker 6: I have ever had the privilege of going against and

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Speaker 6: going to war with playing against him when he's a

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Speaker 6: physical specimen within himself, just being that big and being

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Speaker 6: fluid on his feet, it's like he's playing basketball at

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Speaker 6: offensive tackle. And then to see the type of technician

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Speaker 6: that he is, like, I'll never forget the first day

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Speaker 6: that I walked in here and during training camp, I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 6: let me go in here, show them like, hey, I'm here,

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Speaker 6: like I'm ready to rush. I went the first rep,

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Speaker 6: beat the next guy, and then he's like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 6: let me go against you. Come over here, be more bad.

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Speaker 6: Say let's go in there. Hey, I'm about to give

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Speaker 6: him work. He said, oh, that was pretty good. I won,

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Speaker 6: barely won, but it wasn't convincingly. That next rep, when

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Speaker 6: I tell you, he turned it on like like Drake said,

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Speaker 6: like a light switch.

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Speaker 7: He said, oh, good rep.

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Speaker 6: Next way he came in there and he did a

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Speaker 6: hip lock technique where I tell you, it was like

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Speaker 6: a joke. He put them vice grips me and said,

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Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, my top half of my

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Speaker 6: body went back, but my feet was still running in.

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Speaker 7: Place, and he's just holding me and he's like, now

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Speaker 7: that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: He says.

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Speaker 7: See now I could turn up.

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, and that just goes to show you

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Speaker 6: what type of technician this man was.

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Speaker 7: Like, man, hats off to that guy.

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Speaker 6: Like he earned every bit of it in first ballot

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Speaker 6: Hall of Famer, No off the field issues great leader,

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Speaker 6: and he even better player and play it at such

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Speaker 6: a high caliber level. Like you said, he can still

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Speaker 6: be playing right now if he wants to. He choose

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Speaker 6: to walk away, and that in this game is such

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Speaker 6: a rarity for you to play that long and say, hey,

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Speaker 6: I'm getting off this horse, but there's still some left

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Speaker 6: in the tank. So hats off to him. No better

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Speaker 6: way of doing it.

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Speaker 2: You know, For me as an analyst, I don't care.

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Speaker 2: On any level. It's like, you get a guy like

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Speaker 2: Tyron Smith to come into the league, get an opportunity

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Speaker 2: to watch him play, you see how special he was

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Speaker 2: from the moment he stepped onto the field, from the

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Speaker 2: moment he was taken. He was one of those guys

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Speaker 2: that was straight off the bus, as you were talking

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Speaker 2: an im media to impact. It's to me what was

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Speaker 2: unfortunate about hitt him in the latter part of his

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Speaker 2: career is when you see the great ones have to

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Speaker 2: not finish their career in total here, So going to

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Speaker 2: the Jets and seeing them in that it's like last

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Speaker 2: day you want to see for tiring, but men a

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Speaker 2: class act, a class act, and a guy that handled

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Speaker 2: I will always be grateful for those kinds of players,

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Speaker 2: the guys that are not only assets in the community,

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Speaker 2: that you know saw the press conference, it's it's a bittersweet.

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Speaker 2: It's bitter sweet, you see, you know, it was the

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Speaker 2: Tyron Smith. And I don't know, man, it's like your

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like it's the end of an era,

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Speaker 2: and I think for the time that we had those

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Speaker 2: and I think about them those guys together. I don't

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Speaker 2: just think about Tyron by himself. And that's just one

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Speaker 2: of those things that you can just you're gonna always

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Speaker 2: say what if, what if for those guys, And you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you know, I don't have for all the

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Speaker 2: guys that have votes on Hall of Fame and things

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Speaker 2: like that first ballot. He put in, the work, he

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Speaker 2: there on an island. As my man Nate Newton always says,

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Speaker 2: the hardest position to play in football, other than cornerback

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Speaker 2: am going to be forever grateful to him. And I

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Speaker 2: just want to say this for all the big guys

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Speaker 2: that's out there, what are you eating? What is it?

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Speaker 2: How are you that big and look that proportion. I

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Speaker 2: mean that man came in there with with the vest

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Speaker 2: always remember the physical specimen that Tyron Smith was is

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Speaker 4: So Trey, you're telling me he didn't talk a lot

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Speaker 6: Know, he was the silent giant, and that was, to

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Speaker 6: be honest with you, he was the Andrew Luck of

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Speaker 6: nice and then he even compliments you when you got him.

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Speaker 6: But then like that next play, it was oh, I'm

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Speaker 6: And when he beats you, it's just like like it

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Speaker 6: It's not cocky. It was just he was just nice

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Speaker 6: and it was like man like, of course I can

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Speaker 6: And so for those type of guys, it's really hard

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Speaker 6: And so when you talk trash to him and then

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Speaker 6: I feel so bad, Like you're such a great guy,

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Speaker 6: an essence. It's a certain genocid quad that he had

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Speaker 7: And like you said, he still can go out here.

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Speaker 6: You telling me right now, I guarantee you there's plenty

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Speaker 6: you want to retire, Like we know you want to

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Speaker 6: And so that's why I say, like for him to

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Speaker 6: And like you said, when you think about him, you

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Speaker 6: these guys, it's like the Great Wall, and it's like,

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Speaker 6: I'm glad that you get to come back in here,

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Speaker 6: first ballot Hall of Famer. But it's certain guys that

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Speaker 7: Just of who the player he is.

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Speaker 5: So I talked to DeMarcus where afterwards, and DeMarcus Ware,

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Speaker 5: another cowboy great who left and played somewhere else the

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Speaker 5: end of his career, went to Denver won a Super

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Speaker 5: this again? Another one of your teammates, great teammate with

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Speaker 5: How tough is it? And he went into that and

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Speaker 5: just explained how because he got the ring. He said, Man,

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Speaker 5: And I was fortunate enough to be on the field

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Speaker 5: it's disappointing. It is very disappointing. And so I asked

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Speaker 5: we talking about management here? Because you're talking about here's

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Speaker 5: Zach Martin, go hall of famer, arguably one of the

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Speaker 5: five best guards to ever.

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Speaker 2: Play in the National Footballs, that dominant.

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Speaker 5: Travis Frederick, the numbers that they were able to put

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Speaker 6: Yeah, man, I'm gonna jump it off. You have to

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Speaker 6: go with management like it's the it's the hard it's

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Speaker 6: the hard sell because don't get me think about the

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Speaker 6: list of names that you just named. All those guys

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Speaker 6: Zach Martin, Dware at one point in time. Jason Witten

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Speaker 6: like ze like it's either management or coaching, but it

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Speaker 6: like you have the players there, you eventually you have

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Speaker 6: to get this scheme and you gotta run it like player. Yes,

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Speaker 6: I know players have to play and this and that,

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Speaker 6: be cohesive and go together. And you tell me that

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Speaker 6: many intricate parts you couldn't even sniff a championship for

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with management.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I'm gonna trust what you say because you've

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Speaker 2: been a part of teams that have made a run

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Speaker 4: So let me add this.

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Speaker 7: His resume, I've been.

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Speaker 5: On record many times to say that I thought Jason

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Speaker 5: And I thought there was too much talent that was

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Speaker 4: But he got another one, and he got twelve and four.

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Speaker 5: The twenty sixteen game against the Green Bay Packers, you're

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Speaker 2: A crazy fourth and forever. Yeah, and he hits a.

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Speaker 5: These are opportunities failure. And I talked to one coach

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Speaker 4: Dan Quinn's Atlanta Falcons who almost won it. So I

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Speaker 5: And here's why I'll say it's the players, because sometimes

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Speaker 4: Yeah you know, you know on a fourth and twenty

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Speaker 5: And tell you exactly who was where the player who

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Speaker 7: Yeah, management, And that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: At some point in time, they all have to hit

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Speaker 7: That's never been the problem.

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Speaker 6: So when you say players have to outplay that stuff

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Speaker 4: A player's game.

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Speaker 5: And I think it is Philadelphia who made some coaching changes.

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Speaker 4: But Taquon Barkley shure enough covered up a whole lot.

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Speaker 2: And you know, that's it. That's it. I look at

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Speaker 2: And look, even going back to the Atlanta game, I

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Speaker 5: The man's had three times and those are the those

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Speaker 6: Those are the rare times. If you go back and go,

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Speaker 6: That don't get me wrong. Players, yes, they can make

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Speaker 6: Yes, as much as it is the player, you have

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Speaker 7: But eventually that lambo gonna shut down. Give me the

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Speaker 4: But so what you're saying is a little bit what Greg.

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Speaker 2: Hey, and Shanahan has a few of those associated with him.

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Speaker 4: That was Shanahan.

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Speaker 5: And afterwards he's like, well, you know, we've been attacking

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Speaker 7: Drop them.

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Speaker 5: does his damage in the slot. McMillan is also a

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Speaker 2: Heckman thoughts, look, look, I've told you where I feel

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Speaker 2: about twelve and where the Cowboys should go. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not t Mac is a great player. He's six'. Four

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Speaker 2: the kid can run a a. Look catch radius is

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Speaker 2: crazy for. Him do we need a number two wide? Receiver?

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Speaker 2: Betcha we, do, absolutely we. Do we need a guy

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Speaker 2: that can can couple with that we could put With Ceedee,

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Speaker 2: lamb that could be that difference maker when third and

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Speaker 2: eight is there and the defense's rolling coverage towards eighty.

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Speaker 2: Eight can he be Your Mike? Evans you, KNOW i

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Speaker 2: mean we've seen what that kind of frame can do

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Speaker 2: for a. Team he, knows of, course, RIGHT i, mean

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Speaker 2: this is the kind of player that the comp that

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Speaker 2: you get for. Him but as we've talked about on this,

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Speaker 2: show you that's just one hole in the boat that you're.

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Speaker 2: Feeling you got multiple of the holes that you have to.

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Speaker 2: Feel and my thing, is again that's you're not wrong

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Speaker 2: if you go. THERE i just feel like your quarterback

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Speaker 2: would be better served if he could be better protected

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Speaker 2: and if he had a better running.

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Speaker 5: Game all, Right trey tap McMillan at twelve, Here ted

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Speaker 5: is a nice. Choice like you, said if you get

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Speaker 5: A Mike evans type of, Player, yes of, Course but,

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Speaker 5: no that's not the pick for this.

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Speaker 6: Offense this is not the pick for this. Team the

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Speaker 6: head coach that you have put here is a run,

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Speaker 6: first dominant. Guy you brought, in the offensive, coach you

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Speaker 6: brought in the offensive. Lineman give him the tools to

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Speaker 6: properly succeed at that. Pick if you have a great

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Speaker 6: running back that is gonna be a difference maker out,

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Speaker 6: there you go get, him because you still don't have.

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Speaker 6: That dak has shown that he has been most successful

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Speaker 6: when he has had a comf a decent running. Back

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Speaker 6: so imagine if you go get him that big, guy

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Speaker 6: or go get him an old.

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Speaker 5: Lineman but, no So Maurice Jones DREW nfl Dot com,

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Speaker 5: Says Matthew golden From, Texas texas wide, receiver reliable hands

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Speaker 5: and can be a yard after the catch monster at

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Speaker 5: the next level thanks to his tremendous. Speed, golden who

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Speaker 5: is a primarily player in the slot in, college could

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Speaker 5: pair With Ceedee lamb as a downfield playmaker For Dak.

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Speaker 5: Prescott So i'm assuming the same. Thing, no, no, yeah, no.

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Speaker 6: Okay if you're gonna go wide, receiver you go with

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Speaker 6: the first, pick all.

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Speaker 5: Right Brian WILSON cbs Says Tyler, booker offensive Guard, alabama

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Speaker 5: and he says it's hard to think That booker has

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Speaker 5: flown under the radar given his physical presence and dominating

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Speaker 5: style of. Play but now that we're officially in the draft,

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Speaker 5: season Expect booker to puck in his name to pick up.

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Speaker 7: Speed all.

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Speaker 2: Right booker's a, dog a road, grader and a guy

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Speaker 2: that's coming out of. Sec you know what they. Do

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Speaker 2: they run the ball and up. FRONT i think right,

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Speaker 2: now with where you are on your depth, chart you've

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Speaker 2: bought in some, guys BUT i don't. Look you lose

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Speaker 2: To Zach, martin and to, me there's a big question

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Speaker 2: mark over that right guard position and guys in camp

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Speaker 2: OTAs are going to have to battle it out to

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Speaker 2: see who actually gets that. Position if you go into

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Speaker 2: the draft and you get an offensive, LINEMAN i would

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Speaker 2: not be mad at that. PICK i know a lot

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Speaker 2: of people that would be ticked off about that, pick

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Speaker 2: BUT i wouldn't be mad at that.

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Speaker 6: PICK i would love it if you go at this

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Speaker 6: point in, time history has shown that The cowboys do

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Speaker 6: not miss on their first round offensive lineman like. That,

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Speaker 6: well let's, okay let me slow, down and really the

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Speaker 7: Gotta go. That but, Okay i'm, Sorry i'm gonna retract that.

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Speaker 6: Statement but historically, speaking LIKE i, said those guys that

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Speaker 7: Zach, Martin who's going to be that?

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Speaker 6: Guy and so CAN i say that him coming from

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Speaker 6: this run, heavy offensive minded, scheme he has the potential

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Speaker 6: to set it.

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Speaker 7: Up so for, ME i love it all.

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Speaker 5: Right Mike Cameron Pro Football focus Says Tyler warren tight

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Speaker 5: End Penn State dallas is needed a playmaker all over

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Speaker 5: and in a contract Year dallas can become more versatile

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Speaker 5: on their offense after running one of the lowest rates

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Speaker 5: of twelve personnel last year in THE.

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Speaker 2: Nfl i'm just gonna say THAT i don't trust myself

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Speaker 2: with my assessment of tight, ends And i'm going to

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Speaker 2: take myself.

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Speaker 7: Out of this.

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Speaker 2: Conversation ferguson to me was on the cuspp of having

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Speaker 2: a breakout.

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Speaker 4: YEAR i coined the name Firk Hittle kelsey breakout.

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Speaker 2: It but go to the. Book, No i'm tight. End

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Speaker 2: that wouldn't be a good.

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Speaker 6: i do like. THIS i LIKE i like the. GUY

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Speaker 6: i think he's he gives me that grind, feeling like

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Speaker 6: to watch him in the bowl game and him take

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Speaker 6: off and like have that nastiness that he has catching

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Speaker 6: it and stuff like. That to be honest with, YOU

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Speaker 6: i would be mad if The cowboys winning got him

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Speaker 6: like he gives. You he gives me a winning type

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Speaker 6: BLOCKING i don't.

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Speaker 7: THAT i just. DON'T i don't.

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Speaker 6: Know i'm just saying if THAT i would if that,

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Speaker 6: HAPPENED i wouldn't be mad with the coach that we

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Speaker 6: because now you have you picked up a, blocker and

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Speaker 6: on top of, that with all.

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Speaker 2: The needs that you, have if you come on, now

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Speaker 6: Is, gone as A i get a blocker AND i

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Speaker 6: get a, weapon If i'm gonna go offensive.

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Speaker 2: Side, yes do you look at the tight end position

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Speaker 2: for The cowboys and you say there's a need at

673
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Speaker 2: the tight end position amongst all the other.

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Speaker 5: Groups here's What i'll hit you with this would be

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Speaker 5: the equivalent of TAKING. C.

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Speaker 4: D lamb while you Had Amari cooper on the roster

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Speaker 4: if you Took Tyler.

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Speaker 2: Warren, OKAY i won't argue.

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Speaker 5: With that to, say you know, what we got a,

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Speaker 5: guy but you're a really good guy and we're not

681
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 5: going to pass on a really good guy who could help.

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Speaker 4: Us which when.

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00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 5: They wanted to move on From Amari, cooper they were

684
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 5: able to MOVE Cd lamb. In Tyler warren could be

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Speaker 5: that kind of.

686
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: At the times you Got Ceedee, Lamb did you have

687
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Speaker 2: as many holes that this teef this team has right?

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Speaker 5: Now you were able to TAKE Cd lamb because you

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Speaker 5: were a lot better. Off, Yes i'll say okay and

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Speaker 5: not come into. This do you Think Tyler warren could

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Speaker 5: be a blue chip? Player and if you think you

692
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Speaker 5: could have a blue chip player at that, position, yes

693
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Speaker 5: then you gotta do. It you Mentioned George, Kittle, YEAH

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Speaker 5: i Did george Kill as you well, Know George kittle

695
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 5: really good football.

696
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 7: Player that man gives you a.

697
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 4: Lot of options and things to do on.

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Speaker 5: Offense this is an upgrade at your position as far

699
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Speaker 5: as tight end.

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00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 7: Goes and he didn't.

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Speaker 6: Like he enjoyed it like most people don't enjoy all three,

702
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Speaker 6: phases like you, Said, george like not stepping on your.

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Speaker 7: Toes But george enjoys. That When george goes.

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Speaker 6: Out there and get that, pancake he's going to have

705
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Speaker 6: the same excitement that he has when he gets that catch.

706
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 6: Up that this, guy WHEN i watched him playing in,

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Speaker 6: college it was, Like, yo he just love dominating. Somebody

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Speaker 6: if It's i'm catching it or running through your, face

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Speaker 6: or if it's over, there come run behind. ME i got,

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Speaker 6: You Luke schoolmaker much go.

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Speaker 2: Ahead i'm, Sorry schooney did not have at the.

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Speaker 4: Level i'm.

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Speaker 2: SORRY i was.

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Speaker 5: Trying Pro Football focus lines Up Luther, burton the third

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Speaker 5: wide Receiver, missouri and they Say luther isn't an ideal

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Speaker 5: five to two multi sport athlete for the receiver position

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Speaker 5: in THE nfl first round talent as well rounded as

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Speaker 5: a come displaying the ability of success at the receiver

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Speaker 5: spot in any. Offense so we've already mentioned that. Before

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Speaker 5: so we're down on. That, okay, Okay so and then

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Speaker 5: the other positions are there's another person, Saying Matthew. Golden so,

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Speaker 5: anyway right now a lot of people projecting The cowboys

723
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Speaker 5: to take a wide receiver at, twelve and it's just

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Speaker 5: a matter of do you Want ted McMillan if he's,

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Speaker 5: there big, guy big catch radius speechter In Matthew. Golden

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Speaker 5: you Hear Luther burton right here Of, missouri and then

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Speaker 5: of course if you wanted to, say, hey let's go

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Speaker 5: with the tight. End but they're talking about a pass,

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Speaker 5: catcher Giving Dak prescott more weapons because last year it

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Speaker 5: WAS cd and The, maybies and that includes a tight

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Speaker 4: Well they did not help the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Out, yeah there's no argument to. That AND i think

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Speaker 2: in that wide receiver, room with all the whispers of

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Speaker 2: them taking a wide receiver at, twelve a lot of

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Speaker 2: guys should be feeling like they're on the hot. Seat

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Speaker 2: the names that were, drafted guys that have been here

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Speaker 2: for a, minute that should feel, like, look this is

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Speaker 2: a make or break type of. YEAR i just feel

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Speaker 2: like when it comes down to twelve and the type

741
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Speaker 2: of talent that you can, get AND i said it last,

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Speaker 2: week you're gonna have some guys fall to you that

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Speaker 2: may be one of those players that is that blue

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Speaker 2: The Ohio state there are guys that wide receivers outside

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Speaker 2: of that top names that we've been listening at a

747
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Speaker 2: really quality as, well that you may be able to

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Speaker 5: I'll say, this we go to break the kid From

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Speaker 5: Ohio state you mentioned it. Book is it really good? Player,

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Speaker 5: yes may not be a first round. Grade do you

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Speaker 5: take him and pass. On let's Say Tyler warren a

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Speaker 5: first round graded tight? End is that what you want to?

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Speaker 7: Do?

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Speaker 4: No this is this is the CONF Cd lamb was

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Speaker 4: a first round. Graded, hey let's go get the.

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Speaker 5: Guy your tackle you took last year was not a

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Speaker 4: Guy you you took a chance on a Breach.

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Speaker 5: And so therein lies that thing Of, okay do we

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Speaker 4: Dude and you know that you want this pick to.

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Speaker 5: Count you don't want to be talking about your first

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872
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: Win?

873
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 7: Like what is? There?

874
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 6: Like you cannot as a former, Player i'm gonna be

875
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 6: hot like, Me my legacy is pretty good AT. ANEM

876
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 6: i like. IT i like WHERE i. STAND i feel

877
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 6: Like i'm top ten them in records and leaving in

878
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 6: the timeframe THAT i. Did but DO i think my

879
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 6: numbers should be retired AT a AND m ah to

880
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 6: the double hockey?

881
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 7: Sticks?

882
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 6: No and there's other guys like are you the top

883
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 6: in your? Position there these numbers like putting in the

884
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 6: credit you were only there for one year and what

885
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 6: did you. DO i mean not one year there for two?

886
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 6: Years you were there for two? Years and what did you?

887
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 6: Do like you didn't win a national, Championship like you

888
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,959
Speaker 6: don't have the credibility, Game like.

889
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 7: Did win a bowl? Game what are we talking about

890
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 7: and retiring your?

891
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 6: Number Like i'm all for, nefotism but this is too,

892
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 6: Much like that is a disrespect to the lineage of

893
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 6: that football program and everybody that is. There and like you,

894
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 6: said for the guys that deserve for their numbers to

895
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 6: be retired and not. RETIRED i you wouldn't catch me

896
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 6: at the school again until my number was.

897
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 7: Retired you.

898
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 6: WOULDN'T i would want to apology or something Because i'm

899
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 6: feeling disrespected as a player to get your number. Retired

900
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 6: Lamar jackson just got his number, Retired just got his number,

901
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 6: retired and look at what he's. Done we're talking about

902
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 6: somebody that has not been at the school that long

903
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 6: and hasn't done anything on that other. Level like What Travis,

904
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 6: hunter you have a, debate you won The, heisman so

905
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 6: this and that and so If I'm Travis, HUNTER i

906
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 6: understand that's my, brother but you're bringing down my legacy

907
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 6: with getting my number retired because we're.

908
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 7: Attached this is not A duffel. Program do not do

909
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 7: that to.

910
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: Heck LIKE i have there are players THAT i absolutely

911
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: love THAT i will defend to the, Death but this

912
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: is one of those decisions THAT i absolutely. CAN'T i,

913
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: mean you look at the, record uh and there are

914
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: times where you you, say, man a guy is too,

915
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 2: little too, late not you, know maybe the guy's passed

916
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: on and then he gets his number. Retired this is

917
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 2: this is if he you, know this is if the.

918
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: IFY i backed the on on a lot of his,

919
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: decisions but this is one WHERE i, say, look, man

920
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: you may should have made sure that certain elements were

921
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: already in before you did this. One and you, know

922
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: going back to The Big, EIGHT i saw That Colorado

923
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: buffalo team up close and, personal AND i can tell

924
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: You Cordell stewart wasn't to be played With Rashad, salon

925
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: wasn't to be played With. WESTBROOK i, mean that was

926
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 2: one heck of a team that won a national. Championship SO, i,

927
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: MAN i have a, yes sugar, coating SO i have

928
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: TO i have, TO i have to Sugar, no it's your.

929
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 7: Job in the.

930
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 6: Media right. Now this is a new day and age

931
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 6: of media. Beach, well, YEAH i. Am if that's your,

932
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 6: truth then it.

933
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 2: Is my truth is simply that that is that is

934
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: a Hard that is hard when the pass over the

935
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: alumni and former players At colorado And i'm like, YOU

936
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: i would have a problem with.

937
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 7: That thank.

938
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: You that's.

939
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 7: All that's.

940
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 6: All LIKE i, Said i'm passionate. Guys don't disrespect, them.

941
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 5: Guys Rashan salem his number nineteen retire to, you bashed

942
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 5: twenty four touchdowns Help colorado to an eleven and one.

943
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 5: Record his jersey retirement was announced before the twenty seventeen

944
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 5: season went into effect that season and he was ended

945
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 5: up being honored with THE Uh and it was A

946
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 5: pac twelve game between The buffaloes and The California, bears

947
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 5: And Rashan salem is, said fantastic, player but look how

948
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 5: long it took for.

949
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,959
Speaker 2: Him, yeah Outstanding and so what what WHAT i don't.

950
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 5: Know i'll just make SURE i don't know what the

951
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 5: parameters are and what the. Criteria you, know In North,

952
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 5: carolina you, know if you're a player of the, year you,

953
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 5: know you get that. Opportunity in, basketball they'll retired player

954
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 5: of the.

955
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: Year you, know multiple All.

956
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 5: AMERICAN i, mean they've got they've got standards of what they,

957
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 5: do and so here would be the question, asked what

958
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 5: is the?

959
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: Standard what are the.

960
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 5: Reg especially if If salaam had to wait this long and

961
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 5: he wasn't the, heightstman do you what's the Stand and once,

962
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 5: again the head coach could come in and, say, well

963
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 5: this is WHAT i want to do and this is

964
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 5: what we're gonna do.

965
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 4: It but and clearly he.

966
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 5: Has but it's been interesting and college football interested and that's.

967
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 6: Why and that's WHY i, said let me apologize to

968
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 6: the young, man the player as a. Whole that is

969
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 6: a tremendous honor no slack to you with them doing,

970
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 6: that be honored with. That but as the, fan the

971
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 6: people on the outside looking in what he, SAID i

972
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 6: only knock him down the ones That i'll.

973
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 7: Get he knocking down what he.

974
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 6: Got but at the same, token, like when it's all

975
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 6: said and, done do you feel, like, HEY i really

976
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 6: earned the right for my jersey to be retired or.

977
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 7: Was that something that was bought At Jackson?

978
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 6: State, Yes Jackson, State, yes for, sure for sure without

979
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 6: a question there yes see you.

980
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 5: No so, Yeah so according To chris being, Here Alfred,

981
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 5: Williams eric B, Enemy Darien, hagen who's a great quarterback,

982
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 5: There Cordyll stewart and they have not had their numbers,

983
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 5: retired and that has been brought.

984
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 7: Up eric.

985
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: Was he b like?

986
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 7: That what put me on?

987
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 6: Game that's, hey, yeah. Ignorance so he was cold and.

988
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 6: Old let me tell you. Something this is What i'm talking.

989
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 2: About it took me years to get used to Seeing

990
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: eric being of me as a.

991
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 7: Coach The eric being of.

992
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 4: ME i remember all black.

993
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 6: Number one about to make me go look up his.

994
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 7: Highlight. Insane but that's What i'm, saying like.

995
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 2: Insane we gotta.

996
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 4: Go the show is flown by fun.

997
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 5: Stuff today it was Thak Ma, harrison appreciate, You Trey,

998
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: more thank you. Much i'm struct For chris Being Jazz,

999
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 5: josh everybody makes it here. Happened, well talk to you

1000
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 5: next week On Draft.

1001
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,560
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00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,040
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1003
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:08,959
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