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Speaker 1: Hey, there're folks. It is Thursday, January fifteenth. We are

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Speaker 1: getting close to the evening hours sundown most places across

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Speaker 1: the country as we record this, and Robed a lot

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Speaker 1: of eye is going to be on Minneapolis because called it.

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Speaker 1: President Trump is threatening to use the Insurrection Act. With that,

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Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. And like,

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Speaker 1: I can't take credit for this. We should have seen

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Speaker 1: this coming from him all the way.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was actually going to give credit where credit

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Speaker 2: was due, because you really did call this this morning

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Speaker 2: just based on the language we were already seeing and

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Speaker 2: the words they were using were by design and certainly

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Speaker 2: leading up to now this announcement we got from the

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Speaker 2: President on truth Social he is threatening to invoke the

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Speaker 2: Insurrection Act.

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Speaker 3: We can read his truth Social post for.

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Speaker 2: You, just to make it very clear what the president is.

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Speaker 1: Well, a reminder of what we're talking about here and

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Speaker 1: where we are. There is something. There is an act,

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Speaker 1: an Insurrection Act, a law. What year was it is,

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Speaker 1: it's eighteen h something or nineteen oh something, the Insurrection

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Speaker 1: Act that essentially allows the President of the United States

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Speaker 1: to send in troops to essentially camp down or beat

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Speaker 1: back an insurrection. But an insurrection has to be defined

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Speaker 1: as a particular thing. There are very specific guidelines legally

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Speaker 1: about what constitutes an insurrection. Yes, presidents have used the

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Speaker 1: Insurrection Act in the past for some pretty extreme cases,

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Speaker 1: though Robes not necessarily because there are some possible undocumented

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Speaker 2: Yes, No, this is to quell, as you point, an insurrection,

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Speaker 2: civil disorder, or an armed rebellion. And so when the president,

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Speaker 2: if the president were to enact the Insurrection Act, basically

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Speaker 2: the president can imp power the military to make arrests,

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Speaker 2: search people, and these are things that the military is

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Speaker 2: typically prohibited from doing here in the United States.

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Speaker 3: That is to police forces.

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Speaker 2: That is left to state and local municipalities police forces,

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Speaker 2: not the military, the US military.

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Speaker 3: That is a very different situation.

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Speaker 1: So he's threatened this before in other towns, and many

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Speaker 1: have said for a long time he has been looking

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Speaker 1: a thing. And they have been warning Robes, the officials

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Speaker 1: because this is what they're talking about. So, yes, you

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Speaker 1: and I this morning on our morning newscasts, the Morning Run,

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Speaker 1: it was this morning.

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Speaker 3: Before the morning run.

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Speaker 2: We actually the overnight thing we did because we saw

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Speaker 2: the unrest that was happening with this second shooting that

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Speaker 2: now you've had two shootings in a week. Protesters were

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Speaker 2: already upset. Now they're hellamad.

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Speaker 1: So what was it? It was the Deputy ag Todd Blanche.

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Speaker 1: We had some pretty strong language in a tweet in

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Speaker 1: which he mentioned Minnesota insurrection. I think he used that language.

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Speaker 1: He did, And then there was another official out of

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Speaker 1: the White House that used some or might have been

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Speaker 1: President Trump, Yes, some similar language.

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Speaker 3: Todd Todd. Yes, it was President Trump.

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Speaker 2: And Todd Blanche obviously talked about it not being a threat,

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Speaker 2: that it was a promise, but he talked about Minnesota insurrection,

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Speaker 2: and then he talked about Waltz and Frey, Governor Waltz

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Speaker 2: Frye and Mayor Jacob Frye saying calling them terrorists, basically

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Speaker 2: saying that it was domestic terrorism. We've heard that phrase

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Speaker 3: So it's just making good.

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Speaker 1: So yes, so we were talking about that we were

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Speaker 1: piecing together. They weren't necessarily bread crumbs. They were like

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Speaker 1: this morning, and sure enough, like clockwork, the President gwin

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Speaker 1: ahead and use the word in this truth social post.

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Speaker 1: And he's made clear. We'll just have to wait to

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Speaker 2: Uh. Yes, So this is what he said on true

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Speaker 2: Social If the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don't obey the

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Speaker 2: the patriots of Ice who are only trying to do

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Speaker 2: their job, I will institute the Insurrection Act, which many.

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Speaker 3: Presidents have done before me, and.

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Speaker 2: Quickly put an end to the travesty that is taking

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Speaker 2: place in that once great state. Thank you for your

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Speaker 2: attention to this matter, President djt Okay.

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Speaker 1: Well one president sent them in for well two for desegregation. Right,

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Speaker 1: Hower and Kennedy. Didn't they invoke the insurrection because they

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Speaker 2: Correct, And the last time it was invoked was actually

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Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety two in LA with the Rodney King riots.

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Speaker 2: And so the big point is most of these orders.

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Speaker 2: When you actually put in an insurrection Act, it is

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Speaker 2: with the cooperation of the governor, the most governors, most

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't want violence on their streets.

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Speaker 2: They don't want civil unrest, so they oftentimes ask the

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Speaker 1: Against maybe not the southern governors.

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Speaker 3: Maybe not as much, not as much.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so what we're talking about, we are not saying, yes,

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Speaker 1: there have been clashes and some ugly scenes. You all,

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Speaker 1: everything you're saying on TV is not the same as

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Speaker 2: Think about those riots, very very very different scenarios. The

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Speaker 2: city was burning little and you know, the president, President

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Speaker 2: Trump actually threatened to institute the Insurrection Act in George

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Speaker 3: He didn't end up doing it, but.

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Speaker 2: That was far worse in terms of what was happening

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Speaker 2: the unrest. That was completely much, much bigger than what

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Speaker 2: we're seeing right now. I mean, you were there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they got to get this under control. No no, no, no, oh,

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Speaker 1: don't you were in Minneapolis. Cannot compare. Now, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: there during the most heated times. Oh goodness, not at all.

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Speaker 1: But I am saying, ro to make the comparison. If

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Speaker 1: I mean even then there were We haven't nowhere close,

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Speaker 1: but we need to get this under control before we

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Speaker 1: get there. So yes, as we're recording, this sun is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now with this threat, does that then make

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Speaker 2: protesters more angry?

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Speaker 3: Does it embolden them? Does it want to make them say, hey,

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Speaker 2: Or will they back down and react to what they

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Speaker 2: Tim Waltz actually went on social media and he made

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Speaker 2: a direct appeal to President Trump. He wrote, let's turn

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Speaker 2: the temperature down. Stop this campaign of retribution.

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Speaker 3: This is not who we are.

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Speaker 1: Is that the only way he can get a message

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Speaker 1: to the president.

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Speaker 2: He said he tried to contact the president and had

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Speaker 2: not heard back yet. And so then when Carolyn Levitch

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Speaker 2: just held the press briefing, the Thursday press briefing, she

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Governor Waltz was even serious with

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Speaker 2: and Governor Waltz, as of that hearing, had not spoken.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's absurd.

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Speaker 1: When you see that's a sir, stop, that's absurd. That's

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Speaker 1: the you know what that makes me feel like when

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Speaker 1: the shutdown was happening and the principles weren't even talking,

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Speaker 1: like the Republicans Democrats, there's a crisis right now and

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Speaker 1: the principles are not talking. Check your ego with the

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Speaker 1: door stop and you know when you that's why I asked, said,

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Speaker 1: did he call him behind the scene? Don't put that

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Speaker 1: out you're trying to do something. You're not trying to

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Speaker 1: get something done. If you're provoking him in poking, say hey,

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Speaker 1: I called him. He ain't hit me back. You're putting

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Speaker 1: something on him. If you look to the camera and said,

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Speaker 1: mister President, I'm begging you to take my call. Please,

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Speaker 1: can we talk. Be that guy, be that leader, be

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Speaker 1: that grown up. Put the ego aside. Did you come on?

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Speaker 1: I know I don't like that he called him out.

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Speaker 3: He did say he was waiting to hear back. Now.

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Speaker 2: Carolyn Levitt also said this and again, this all is

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Speaker 2: fanning the flames. It's fueling the fire. She said, Democratic

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Speaker 2: declining to comply with federal immigration authorities sent to their

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Speaker 2: blaming as has Trump, Waltz and Fry, and they're saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're trying to talk to you. Let's stop this campaign

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Speaker 2: of retribution. You know, this is all happening after his threat,

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Speaker 2: by the way, after the President went to true social

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Speaker 2: And we're also hearing now from Minnesota's congressional Democrats condemning

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Speaker 3: I can't talk.

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Speaker 2: Senator Tina Smith told reporters Trumps statements amount to threats

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Speaker 2: turning the temperature down.

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Speaker 1: It's usual. It's usual suspects, usual language, it's the you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'm not going to look and I want

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Speaker 1: are one of those moments that you go to their website,

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Speaker 1: so you go their newsletters and some fundraising campaign is

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Speaker 1: going on as they're doing this. And okay, because we

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Speaker 1: I'm cynical as hell because no, who's leading us right now? Like,

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Speaker 1: who is it that's saying, Hey, everybody, let's chill. Who

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Speaker 3: About it, and Tim Waltz is saying it.

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Speaker 2: But then, as you point out, it's still in a

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Speaker 2: political theater because he's doing it on social media. So

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Speaker 2: it's not as if there was some actual earnest attempt,

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Speaker 2: and maybe there was behind the scenes and getting in

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Speaker 2: factions and you know clicks who won't speak to each other,

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Speaker 2: and literally the streets are erupting in violence, and if

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Speaker 1: Other, you know, here's the thing, though, that those are

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Speaker 1: different about this is that it's one thing of there's

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Speaker 1: need help, they'll call the talk then. But these two

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Speaker 1: locals fighting, we actually have Americans fighting each other. So

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Speaker 1: I'm now I feel stupid for suggesting these two would

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Speaker 1: One they both are blaming each other for what's happening

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Speaker 1: why are we even thinking they're gonna work together and

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Speaker 1: get together. Of course they're not going to try to

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Speaker 1: resolve it. Oh sorry, my bad. Scratch all that, We're silly,

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Speaker 1: Scratch everything.

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Speaker 2: It's all about re election and proving to the people

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Speaker 3: But you know what there is.

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Speaker 2: And we have been watching ugly, ugly scenes on the

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Speaker 3: It's not turning the temperature down.

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Speaker 1: Sun going down here on the East coast, Son going

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Speaker 3: They're calling for ICE to leave.

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Speaker 2: But it is interesting you say what's right, and everyone

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Speaker 2: And were the protesters behaving badly? Does that justify being shot?

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Speaker 1: You know, I looked, what is this tonight? It's going

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Speaker 2: You have to be pretty passionate to brave those And yes,

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Speaker 3: They're used to the cold weather, but still cold is cold.

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Speaker 1: But yes, keep your folks in Minneapolis on your mind tonight.

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