1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Hey, lady, is doctor dim here. If you like this 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: show and you want to make your own, let me 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: tell you about the free platform Anchor. It's a creation 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: tool that allows you to record and edit your podcast 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: right from your phone or computer. You can add songs 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: from Spotify and create any type of content that you 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: are looking for. Anchor will distribute it all for you 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: so it can be heard on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more. 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: Download the free Anchor app or go to anchor dot 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: fm to get started. 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 2: On this week's episode in her Space. It really has 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: nothing to do with you, Like, it's all about their 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: perspective and the lens that they see life through. And 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: so I think I really appreciate you sharing how you 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: felt initially because I think sometimes I have to do 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: that with myself too, where it's like, let me take 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: a pause, what are they trying to say? Is there 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: any truth? So I think it's about getting curious about 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: the feedback. And I think that when we kind of 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 2: looked at this feedback, we were like, you know, what, 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: though you do you share? If you look at everything holistically, 22 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: there might be like an underlying for subtleness where it's like, 23 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: oh wait, I wonder what Doctor dom you know what 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: her experience was here. 25 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: Welcome to her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting women 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: like you. We're your Costs Doctor Dominique Broussard, a colege 27 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 3: professor and psychologist. 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 4: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. 29 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: In a world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 2: please join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: from fibroids to fake friends and create a safe space 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: where black women can just be. 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: Hey girl. Hey, it's Terry here from the her Space podcast. 34 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 4: Every Wednesday, I release a Wisdom Wednesday mini episode that'll 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 4: give you the quick boost you need to get you 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 4: through hump day. Visit her our space podcast dot com 37 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: and click the Wisdom Wednesday with Terry link under start 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: here to get your weekly gems. I hope to see 39 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 4: you there, lady. 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 3: If you've been listening to us for a while, then 41 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: you probably are familiar with this quote that we're using 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: for the quote of the day. It comes from myself 43 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: dot dom. Trust the process not see this quote to 44 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: me is applicable in the multiple settings for multiple reasons. 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: But I also kind of chose this quote, not only 46 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: because it's one of my favorites, but it really is 47 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: gonna help us for today's episode. You want to tell 48 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 3: our listeners what today's episode is about. 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: Let's do it, dom, I am ready to go. Okay, ladies. 50 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: So we talk about feedback in many of our episodes, 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: right we let you know that we really value your feedback. 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 2: We don't just want you to give feedback and let 53 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: it sit there, you know, in the universe, without being 54 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: touch We want to read your feedback. We want to 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: hear your voice. We want to we tell you so much, 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: right like, we give so much content. We're on the 57 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: mic every Friday sharing stuff with you, and sometimes it 58 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: can kind of be this one way street, and we 59 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: always like to hear from you to understand who's listening 60 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: to the podcast, what do you think about the podcast, 61 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: what's coming up for you as you listen? And so 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 2: we read all our feedback, and we really want to 63 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: thank you first for having the courage to share your 64 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: honest feedback with us. I know it's not easy. I 65 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: will say that, you know, being on this side of 66 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: the mic and getting feedback, it can be a little 67 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: nerve wracking at times because we share so much, we 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: don't see the faces of, you know, the people that 69 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: listen oftentimes, and so it can bring up a lot 70 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: of feelings when you get feedback. I can only imagine 71 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: as we get bigger, we're probably going to have some 72 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: trolls sharing feedback, and we'll have to figure out how 73 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: we're going to navigate that once we get to that point. 74 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: But today we're going to focus on some of the 75 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: positive feedback that we've gotten. And so last week we've 76 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: had one of our awesome listeners. I'm not going to 77 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: show ourn because I don't want to. I didn't discuss 78 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: this with her first, but I just want to shout 79 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: her out for giving us some really valuable feedback and 80 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: stating that, you know, in listening to the podcast, she 81 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: says she loves the podcast, but she just has a suggestion, 82 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: and her suggestion was that she really wants to learn 83 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 2: a bit more about don She feels as though the 84 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: podcast is unbalanced and you know, Terry, that's me. I 85 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: share a lot of my story. She feels as though 86 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: she just wants to know a bit more about doctor 87 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 2: dom and her experiences and really just what she's been 88 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: through because it seems as though the podcast is very 89 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: centered around my stories or stories, and so Dom and 90 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: I had a chance to look at that feedback and 91 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: we're like, Okay, how do we want to address this? Right, 92 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: Because sometimes when you get feedback, it's legit, right, it's 93 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: legitimate feedback. Sometimes the feedback can be trying to think 94 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: of what is the word I'm looking for. Let's say 95 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: that someone doesn't listen to all of our episodes. We 96 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: have more than fifty episodes at this point, So if 97 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: you listen to one episode and you have a perspective 98 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: on that episode, you might give feedback that isn't a 99 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: holistic sort of analoge of the experience that we're providing. Right. 100 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: I think this feedback is pretty valid though, because I 101 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 2: think that when you look at the holistic sort of 102 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: catalog of podcasts that we've released and you think about 103 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: the stories that I share and the stories that Doctor 104 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: Dom shares, you'll probably see a discrepancy because my story 105 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: is ridiculous. There's a lot of craziness that happens that 106 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: I'm very open and transparent about that. And if you 107 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: notice with Doctor Dom, she shares some of her story, 108 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: and she shares some of her experiences, but there's definitely 109 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: a difference when you look at the spectrum right. 110 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: And most of that difference is because I'm coming in 111 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: with a professional standpoint, coming in with that standpoint of 112 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 3: from a therapist lens, from a psychologist lens, from a 113 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: mental health professional lens. And so that's where my voice 114 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: is a lot heavier from that expertise kind of standpoint. 115 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 3: And one of the things that I want to share 116 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: is that when it comes to getting feedback, getting that 117 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: particular feedback was a real life exercise for us in 118 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: how do you really address when someone is offering you 119 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 3: things that initially you may have a reaction to. So, 120 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 3: in all transparency, when I first read it, my initial reaction, 121 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: like my first five second reaction, was to get defensive, 122 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: and I was ready to pull out the evidence. 123 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: Of here's where. 124 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 3: I have been open, here's where here are the episodes 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 3: where you learn pieces of my story. And then after 126 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: those first few seconds passed, I was like, wait, hold on, breathe, 127 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 3: do what you tell other people to do, which is 128 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: to breathe, step back, and really approach the feedback with 129 00:06:54,120 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 3: an open heart and open mind to really understand what 130 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 3: is this person trying to offer me and what lessons 131 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: can I take from this? How should I really be 132 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: moving forward with this information? 133 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 2: And since we're on the topic, I think we should 134 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: definitely dive into I know, for me personally, my conditions 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: growing up, right, because we all know childhood has a 136 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: lot to do with who we are today, has presented 137 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: the best circumstance for me to be the most defensive person. 138 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 4: Right, So, when something happens or someone. 139 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: Gets feedback, whether it's good, I've actually had someone give 140 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: me positive feedback, you know. I was at a point 141 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: in life I was struggling with worziness where I doubted 142 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: the positive feedback, where I was like, oh, wait, is 143 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: she really trying to say that? Is she like she's like, oh, 144 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: nice dress? And in my mind, I'm like, is she 145 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: trying to come from me? Like does she really think 146 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: my dress is nice? Or is she saying this because 147 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: I know I'm insecure about my little punche because I'm 148 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: a little bloated today. So maybe she was seeing we 149 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: had these narratives in our mind, right, and the ego 150 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: and all this stuff will just kind of fuck with 151 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: you and you're like, well, damn, I don't even know 152 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: what to do this feedback. So I think that one 153 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: thing I'm working on personally is trying not to be 154 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: so attached to feedback, whether it's positive or negative. I 155 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 2: want to keep my own equilibrium and know who I 156 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: am and how I feel about myself. So when feedback 157 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: comes in, all feedback isn't necessarily, you know, warranted or 158 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: positive or true. Right someone's perspective. And one of my 159 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: mentors says something to me recently was she was like, 160 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: oftentimes when you interact with people in the world, it 161 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: really has nothing to do with you, Like it's all 162 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: about their perspective and the lens that they see life through. 163 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 2: And so I think I really appreciate you sharing how 164 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: you felt initially because I think sometimes I have to 165 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: do that with myself too, where it's like, let me 166 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: take a pause, what are they trying to say? Is 167 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: there any truth? So I think it's about getting curious 168 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 2: about the feedback, and I think that when we kind 169 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 2: of looked at this feedback and we were like, you 170 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: know what, though you do share, if you look at 171 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: everything holistically, there might be like an underlying sort of 172 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 2: subtleness where it's like, oh wait, I wonder what doctor 173 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: Dom know what her experience was here or you know 174 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: what she incident in relation to this, especially if you 175 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: have a contrast on what folks are sharing. So I 176 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: think this will be a good time before we dive 177 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: into doctor Dom's tea to talk about all roles on 178 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: the podcast. Right. So when we set out to create 179 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 2: this podcast, I know for me personally, I didn't mind 180 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: sort of taking a I want to see like a 181 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: client role. Sometimes I feel when we have our episodes, 182 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in therapy and I felled Doctor 183 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 2: Donnads my therapist, and I'm like, oh great, I get 184 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: to process things and share some stories and also connect 185 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 2: with our listeners. Because being transparent and being vulnerable, that's 186 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: part of my brand. Like outside of the podcast, that's 187 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: what I do. You'll go on my Instagram or my 188 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: Facebook or if you read my book and you'll be like, 189 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: oh god, damn, she's telling all these stories. It's not 190 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: as if you know me. It's not just to share 191 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: the stories, but really to help other people heal. And 192 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: so that's sort of something that I think I've used 193 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: to sort of set myself apart, and that's really what 194 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: my bland represents. So of course that's going to come 195 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 2: through to the podcast. Right, come through to that, say that, right, 196 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 2: come through through the podcast. Yeah, Okay, there we go 197 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: at the okay, and then Dom, How would you describe 198 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: your role holistically? 199 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 3: I think, as I mentioned earlier, my role is more 200 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: of the coming from a lens of the therapist and 201 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: the mental health professional standpoint. And when you come from 202 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 3: that standpoint, what we were taught in graduate school is 203 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: about balancing self disclosure and from that Western lens that 204 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: we were taught in graduate school, that balance is really 205 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: an imbalance, right that the people that we're working with 206 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 3: are the ones who are sharing the most, and we're 207 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 3: offering the professional information. And if we do share personal information, 208 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: we have to be pretty strategic about how we share it, 209 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: when we share it, and what we share. 210 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: Why is that? What is the perspective of the therapist? 211 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, I think I know that I want to 212 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: hear like from your sort of degree and what you've learned, 213 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: why do therapists have to be careful about what they share? 214 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: So from a therapy standpoint, if we're sitting in the 215 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: therapy room, if you're the client and you are paying 216 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: me to help you, me sharing my story is not 217 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: necessarily going to help you, right so, and I say 218 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 3: not necessarily because there may be times when me giving 219 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: pieces of myself could build that relationship between us, a 220 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: therapist client relationship. But oftentimes what happens is if I 221 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: share something about myself with you, you. 222 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: May try to help me. Has that ever happened? I 223 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: knew that was I didn't have an example ready. 224 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: One example that comes up that happened years ago when 225 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: my grandfather died. I was working with a child client 226 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: and I had to reschedule some appointments to kind of 227 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: reschedule things to kind of be at home. And when 228 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 3: I returned my client she knew, and so like the 229 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: session became this thing where she wanted to comfort me, 230 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, let's sit back and let's 231 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 3: like like I had to address it in that moment 232 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 3: of therapy is for you and still be willing to 233 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 3: accept her wanting to kind of comfort me. 234 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: And that's tricky. So like you were saying, this therapy session, 235 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: like this is your time, not necessarily like I'll talk 236 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 2: about this with my therapist, but like this is your time. 237 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 3: That is very interesting and so here on the podcast 238 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: because my lens is generally coming from that therapist's standpoint. 239 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: There are times where I do open up and share 240 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: things about my life, and really I share. 241 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 2: A from my perspective. 242 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: I share a lot more personal things on the podcast 243 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: than I do with clients, but I recognize that in comparison, 244 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: it will feel like there's a huge imbalance there. 245 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, this is getting good. I have so many 246 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: questions now, so I'm thinking about There was a situation 247 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 2: where my therapist shared some of her story. Now, I 248 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: had one therapist years ago she like over shared and 249 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: I was just like, go, this is my session. I'm 250 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: paying you talk to me about my stuff and not 251 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: your situation because it didn't really add value to me, 252 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: and that's exactly what we try to avoid. But then 253 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: I've had other therapists, and it could be a culture 254 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: thing as well, because I've had other therapists, maybe a 255 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: black woman, where she'll share stuff with me, and I 256 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: feel as though it's deepening our connection. So like my 257 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: current therapist, one day she had shared a similar struggle 258 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 2: that she has with her mom that I was experiencing, 259 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: and then she also talked about how she was going 260 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: to therapy and it made me so happy. I was like, 261 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I feel so good. Knowing that my 262 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: therapist has a therapist like that just comforted me in 263 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: a way that I couldn't even explain. And so it 264 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: sounds like you do have clients I believe to probably 265 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: listen to the podcast. I'm sure at some point they will, 266 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: they aren't already. So it sounds like there's a delicate 267 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: balance for you as a professional embarking on this new 268 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 2: journey and then also being a partner with someone that 269 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: does have you know, that does share that's very transparent 270 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: and vulnerable, and finding your own balance around that. Is 271 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 2: that right? 272 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, so you captured that pretty well. And I 273 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: think the other piece too. My friends who have known 274 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 3: me for a while also know that I generally operate 275 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 3: in that way anyway that I often lean towards the 276 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: side of being the helper, which I think is probably 277 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: how I got into this profession in the first place. 278 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: But it takes a lot for me to like put 279 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: all of my stuff out there so like truly be 280 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: in that vulnerable space. And so I recognize that it's 281 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 3: a lot to ask of people, which is why I 282 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 3: value therapy so much. Because I get how hard it 283 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: can be to put all of your stuff out there 284 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: for other people to hear it. 285 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, even if it's one other person. I think I 286 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: said this in a previous episode. I remember going to 287 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: therapy for a year and I didn't even get down 288 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: to the real shit until a year after building that relationship. 289 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: So it does take a lot to get those things 290 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: that are in your head out, And you also want 291 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: to be protected. I think that you never want anyone 292 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: to try to use anything against you or anything like that. 293 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: Do you think that there is a worry or a 294 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: concern about like being discredited or maybe taken away from 295 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: one's credibility as a therapist that they share a lot. 296 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: Do you think that's something that comes up for. 297 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 3: Now, that's not something that I thought about. I think 298 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: that that could be an issue for some for some therapists. 299 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: I think for me, part of why I keep a 300 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: lot close is also wanted to protect the people around me, 301 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 3: so wanted to be mindful of when I share my stuff, 302 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: who else is being put out there by me sharing. 303 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 2: That's a good one. Oh yeah, we might have to 304 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: dive into that topic in general on another episode. As 305 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: far as sharing your story, because yeah, that makes sense, 306 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: all right, don Well, we do want to take some 307 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: time to learn more about doctor John, So let's go 308 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: ahead and dive into trying to think of what we 309 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: haven't covered on a previous episode that folks may want 310 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: to know. Do you have like a random or interesting 311 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: or like fun fact that you can maybe share on 312 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: the spot, right, okay, being on the spot. 313 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: And I don't think that I'm that interesting on a person, right, I. 314 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 5: Think I just lived my life, and like I think 315 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 5: I'm nerdy, Like I am okay with being at home 316 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 5: reading a book, Like yeah, like I could just be 317 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 5: at home with a. 318 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: Book, like my nose in a book for hours. Even 319 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: as a kid, I was like that. 320 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: My siblings would be outside plane and I would be 321 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 3: inside with my nose in a book. And there were 322 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: also times when my mom was like, girl, get outside, 323 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 3: go go get some fresh air, go play, and I'm 324 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: like play, okay, what I would end up? 325 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: I can vividly. 326 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: Remember times where she was like, no, you need to 327 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 3: get out of the house, and I would grab a 328 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: book and sit on the hood of the car and 329 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: read while my siblings were playing and doing other stuff 330 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 3: like that, Like that's just my thing. 331 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, what kind of books did you read? 332 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 3: Mostly stuff black authors? 333 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: Okay, even that young Yeah, that's really good. Awesome, okay Donald, hmmm. 334 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: Although I will say, as we're thinking about it, I 335 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 3: think like way back r. Al Stein Books, which was 336 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 3: like the Little Horror Stories for Kids and Babysitters Club. 337 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes book. I was gonna, oh my gosh, 338 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 2: that was Yes, that was my fate. Damn. That bought 339 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: back so many memories. Just now I thought about okay, 340 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: really quick, random little uh little or do you remember 341 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: the Judy Blue Book? It may have been where are 342 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: you God, it's me Margaret? Yes, well she got her 343 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 2: first period. Well, she got her first period. Do you 344 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: remember this one scene where they played spin the Bottle? No, 345 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 2: I know remember that? Okay, maybe it was just me. 346 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: It stood out to me because I always wanted to 347 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: play Spin the Battle. I never got a chance to 348 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 2: play that game when I was throwing up and I 349 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: was just like, play it in the book, and I 350 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: was like, I want to spend the bottle and kiss somebody. 351 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 2: So anyway, that was just my personal shit got me. 352 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: Let me move on from that. So anyway, thank you 353 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: for sharing that, all right, so do you know that 354 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: whenever we have a guest on the show, we have 355 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: a segment called so because we recognize, appreciate, and celebrate 356 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 2: the multifaceted woman and believe that it's okay to be 357 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: classy and ratchet and you can still be elegant and 358 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: dance to strip cloud music, we want to invite you 359 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: to the oh you clatch it segment? Doctor Dom. Do 360 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: you take on the challenge? Yes? I do. Let's do 361 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: this all right. I'm going to add a few little 362 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: fun questions in there that you aren't expecting. Okay, okay, 363 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: the first question, what's the most spontaneous thing you've ever done? 364 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: I see, I was prepared for this question. Still couldn't 365 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: think of the answer because I told y'all I'm not 366 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: that interesting. 367 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: Oh I cannot think of anything spontaneous I am. I 368 00:19:55,359 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: am pretty regimented and routine. So maybe that's to be 369 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: a goal for twenty twenty is to addams find maybe 370 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: in my life. 371 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 2: M M okay, that's okay, that's fair. I was gonna 372 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 2: say maybe the podcast, but then I know you had 373 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: that written down on one of those note pads years ago, 374 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: years ago. 375 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, what about what's your biggest pet peeve. My siblings 376 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: will tell you growing up that almost anything that they did. 377 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: Was a petty. 378 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: And it kind of moved into adulthood for a little bit, 379 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 3: and so now they can find all kinds of little things. 380 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 3: You know how siblings can do, then they know which 381 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 3: buttons suppressed. But generally, my biggest pet peeve is people 382 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: chewing with their mouth open. That sound that it makes, 383 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 3: it's so disgusting. There are a lot of things in 384 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 3: life that like I would say, oh, it's so disgusting 385 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: because I'm like a lightweight germophone, but people chewing with 386 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 3: their mouth open is probably the worst. 387 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel that was resonating with it. I see 388 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 2: it was about like have you ever see me on Snap? 389 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: That's the reason because someone had was doing with the 390 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: joking crazy. So how I feel? 391 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: You? 392 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: What about your most cringe worthy outfit you've ever worn? 393 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: And can you share some pictures with us? There were 394 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: no pictures? 395 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: Oh wait, oh no, there might be all snap, there 396 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: might be. Okay, So this isn't necessarily an outfit per 397 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 3: se because I never wore it outside of the house. 398 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: But in college my friends would tease me because. 399 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: I had what they called grandma robe, and it was 400 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: it was a hand me down from. 401 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 3: My mom and it was like this thin robe with 402 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: like flowers on it. Just think like Golden Girls, like 403 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 3: nineteen eighties, right, That house cold was probably the most 404 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: cringe worthy thing that a nineteen year old could ever wear. 405 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 3: But I loved it and I rocked it all the time, 406 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 3: and my friends would call me old lady, your grandma 407 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: or whatever. 408 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: But I will still rocket. So I don't know if 409 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: there are pictures out there. 410 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 3: I'm sure somebody has pictures out there, yes, and if 411 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: they do, they probably will hear this episode and send 412 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 3: it to me. So if they do, and in the 413 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 3: spirit of like being a little bit open, if I 414 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 3: come across that picture, I will post it. 415 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: A okay, So whoever is out there listening Tom's friends 416 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 2: and family, please be sure to send her that picture 417 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: because we want to see that role. Okay, you want 418 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: to see that road, all right? What is your biggest 419 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: guilty pleasure? Hmm? 420 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 3: Reading probably, And it's not like a guilty pleasure, like 421 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: it's the thing that, like, like I said, like on 422 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: a Friday night, like I'm not necessarily trying. 423 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 2: To be like out and about I will be. 424 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: I'm perfectly happy sitting down with my nose in a book. 425 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: I love it. What do you do for fun? And 426 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: can I say reason? I won't. 427 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: What I do for fun that I need to do 428 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: more of is travel. I do want to get out 429 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: of the country more. 430 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: So, where would you go for like your first trip, 431 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: like your next trip out of the country. Oh, that's 432 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 2: a hard. 433 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 3: That's a hard question because I have categories, right, like 434 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 3: what are so. 435 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: Relaxation? 436 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: Would be like Hawaii or an island, some island vacation 437 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 3: right where I can just kick back, have some drinks, sunbathe, 438 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 3: you know, just all that, right, listen to the ocean weights. 439 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: But in terms of like learning or adventure, I would 440 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 3: like to get to Africa. And I haven't figured out 441 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 3: which country I would start, but I definitely would like 442 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 3: to get to Africa just to learn. 443 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 2: That would be amazing. And what's your favorite drink? Alcoholic 444 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: or not alcoholic? Let's go with alcoholic, whine? Whine? What 445 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: kind of wine? Any kind? Any kind? I know, that's right, 446 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: any kind, any kind of wine? 447 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: Generally, like in the summertime, I prefer rose. If I'm 448 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: trying to be healthy, then I'll go for a red 449 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 3: wine because you know, they say that red wine is 450 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: good for your heart, and I like white wine, but 451 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 3: almost any kind of wine I'm down. 452 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, And what makes your heart sing read I'm digging 453 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 2: up a good book, okay, no judgment, No. 454 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: Actually no, I will say that. And seeing family that 455 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 3: definitely would make my heart family. 456 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, Dom. I'm trying to think, do 457 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: we get enough out of you? I'm trying to think, 458 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: do we have more questions? Oh? Do you have any books? 459 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 3: Like I would say, so, okay, I I would say 460 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 3: my favorite book is Their Eyes Were Watching God by 461 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 3: Zora Neil Hurston. Oh, and that book will have a 462 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: link available for that book, so that if you're interested 463 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 3: in reading that, if you haven't read it, If maybe 464 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: you saw the movie back in the day with Halle 465 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 3: Berry and Michael Ealy, not necessarily they're either of their 466 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: best work, but it's a good way, Like if you're 467 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: not necessarily into books, watching that movie is a good 468 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 3: way for you to kind of get a sense of 469 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: what the book was about. If there are other ways 470 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: in which other questions that we haven't asked that you're 471 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: just dying to know about me, Remember that we do 472 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: have a new segment called Ask doctor Dom on Tuesdays, 473 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: and so you can go on our website and click 474 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 3: ask doctor Dom, fill out the form and ask me 475 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 3: whatever it is that you're wanting to know about me. 476 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: Also, if you want to check out some of our 477 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: previous episodes to learn a bit more about doctor Dom 478 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 2: and some of the content that she shared on these episodes. 479 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 2: I would say that season one episode one, Welcome to 480 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: her Space, is a really good episode to start. Also, 481 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 2: Season two episode two, which is all about play deprivation 482 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: and that is all about what to do when you're 483 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: not part of the fun ministry or fun is not 484 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 2: your ministry, that was a good one. And then season 485 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: two episode nine, So what's therapy like anyway? 486 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 3: Hey lady, it's doctor Dom here from the her Space Podcast. 487 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: Do you have a burning question you're dying to get 488 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 3: feedback on? Do you want an unbiased perspective on a 489 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: situation you're facing? 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And before we meet again, repeat 504 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: after me, There's something inside of me that's bigger than 505 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: any obstacle. We'll see you next week, Lady