1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: What is going on everybody? How are we doing John 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: middlecop Three and Out Podcast. Hopefully everyone is having a 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 2: great day out there on the mean streets of real life. 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: And we're here to podcast because that's what we do 6 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: here in the three and Out Podcast. And today I 7 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: do want to dive into, uh, not just cam Ward 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: who had his pro day, but just in general, what 9 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: we've seen this last draft, which was very transferred portal heavy, 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 2: and what we expect in this upcoming draft, which all 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: the quarterbacks and the transfer portal have become synonymous with 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: each other and to incredible success. Pooka and Akua had 13 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: some comments today about retiring early. I do want to 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: dive into that incredible moment on the internet. I saw 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: what happened on television, what happened in real life, but 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: I saw it on the internet. It was on television, 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: the wrestling upset that happened at the National Championship. Daniel 18 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: Cormier was there calling it legendary. Guy got beat. And 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: of course, the Middlecoff Mailbag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram. 20 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 2: Fire into those dms and get your questions answered here 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: on the show at John Middlecoff is the Instagram, Fire 22 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: in those dms and get your questions answered. Here on 23 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: the show, we will do a mailbag and that will 24 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: be the game plan for today. So we'll talk a 25 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: little football. We'll do a little mailbag. Well, we'll talk 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: a little more football, and yeah, we'll kind of go 27 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: from there. So we did a podcast yesterday. You can 28 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: see that recorded on Sunday for Monday, and then obviously 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: this one. So a couple of podcasts so far this week. 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: But before we dive into some football, I do need 31 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: to tell you about my friends, my partners, and the 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: official ticketing app of this podcast. Listen, we have the 33 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen Thursday and Friday. So do you live in 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: one of these areas? We got the NBA playoffs right 35 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: around the corner. 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It's funny how things are 55 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: viewed a certain way and then over time that dramatically changes. 56 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: And I think when you look at the landscape of 57 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: college sports forever, if you were changing schools, it was 58 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: usually a red flag. Hell I remember growing up, it's 59 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,399 Speaker 2: like my dad's like put down the video games, pick 60 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: up a book, and now people watch other people play 61 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 2: video games, streaming and YouTube, and those people crush it. 62 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: It's like things change, we adapt. Things that are viewed 63 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: negatively become more popular and sometimes they have enormous financial 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: windfalls behind them. And I think when you look at 65 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: the transfer portal, it wasn't long ago when this thing 66 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: didn't exist that if you move schools, it was viewed 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,119 Speaker 2: as like I couldn't cut it, he couldn't get it done. 68 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: And for the most part, it tended to be a 69 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: red flag. And part of it was if you were 70 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: forced to transfer, whether it was because you couldn't play 71 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: at that school or because you were seeking a better opportunity, 72 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: it was not advantageous to your career, like you had 73 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: to sit out a season, and if you had red shirted, 74 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: like if you've gone to Texas, if you've gone to USC, 75 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: if you've gone wherever, Fresno State, Boise State, you name it, 76 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: and you red shirted and then tried to start the 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: following year and didn't cut it and then wanted to 78 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: transfer your red shirt sophomore season, you had to burn 79 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: your third year and it just didn't count for anything, 80 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: but you were not allowed to play well. Obviously, the 81 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: transfer portal has changed everything and cam Ward who all signs, 82 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: and I mean every sign point to him being the 83 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: number one overall pick, and within the next month plus 84 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: he will be the starting quarterback for the Tennessee Titans 85 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: and him and I think last year we saw the 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: first true windfall of the quote unquote transfer portal quarter 87 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: and this year is going to follow that group extremely 88 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: I mean basically the same thing. And I don't think 89 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: anymore this is that weird. It actually, if you have 90 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: the opportunity to jump, unless you are in an ideal situation, 91 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: kind of feels like a no brainer. Let's look at 92 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: cam Ward, who is actually on his third school of 93 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: his career, right incarnate word. I've texted a couple people. 94 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 2: I haven't quite got the breakdown how he ended up 95 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: at such a small school but then made the jump 96 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 2: to Washington State and it changed his life. And by 97 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: the end of last year he was the number one 98 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: guy in the transfer portal and got paid millions of 99 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: dollars to go to the University of Miami. It's funny. 100 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 2: Someone in my DMS the other day was like, middle cough, 101 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: you throw around some of these numbers with college athletes, Like, bro, 102 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. That's 103 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: it's not correct, No way these guys are making that 104 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: much money. Yes, guys, they are making that much money. 105 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: I actually talked to someone today who is in the 106 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: college football world, and I mean very tight end tight end, 107 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: and he told me about He didn't tell me the school, 108 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: but he was at a program with the head coach 109 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: and the coach was telling him that in the quarterback 110 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: room they had multiple seven figure quarterbacks and this was 111 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: not Texas. And that doesn't just include the salary. That 112 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: includes houses that come with it, cars that come with it. 113 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: The money for regular players. Starting players obviously varies right 114 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: could go from one hundred grand to seven hundred and 115 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: eight hundred grand, but when it comes to quarterbacks, the 116 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,239 Speaker 2: going rate is seven figures. And so when Cam Wored 117 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: transferred last year, we don't have the exact details, this 118 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: is in the NFL, but he got paid well over 119 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: a million dollars to go to the University of Miami 120 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: and it changed his life because when he went to Miami, 121 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: he would not have been a first round pick last year, 122 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 2: and now he is going to be the number one 123 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: overall pick. So he got to go to a major program, 124 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: make a ton of money, and up his draft stock. 125 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: But I started thinking think about last season Kayleb Williams 126 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: number one overall pick transferre from Oklahoma to USC with 127 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley. Jayden Daniels transfer from Arizona State to LSU 128 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: won the Heisman. Both those two guys won the Heisman. 129 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 2: Drake May, it was a pretty big story going into 130 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: his last year at North Carolina when Mac Brown came 131 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: out and said that people had been dirty, quote unquote 132 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: dirty recruiting Drake May and offering him millions of dollars 133 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: to transfer. Well, it was pretty clear. It's like Bryce 134 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: Young just went pros probably Alabama, you know, or you know, 135 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: schools in the SEC were offering him huge money. Now 136 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: he decided to stay, but it wasn't for a lack 137 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: of opportunity to leave. Michael Pennix went eighth overall, left 138 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: Indiana to go to Washington. A couple of years later, 139 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: he's in the Heisman mix. They're in the national championship. 140 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy somewhat unique because his team was so stacked, 141 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 2: didn't need to leave, got paid at Jim Harbaugh. Bo 142 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: Nicks went from Auburn to Oregon. All these guys that 143 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 2: transferred not only made millions of dollars, their draft stock 144 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: went like this. And then you look at this season. 145 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: Cam Ward went from Washington State, where he was a 146 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 2: very intriguing prospect. I do believe if he would have 147 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: came out last year, would have gone somewhere between pick 148 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: forty and seventy. He would have been a second day pick, 149 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: but he would not have been the number one overall pick. 150 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: And then you look at Shadoor Sanders a little different 151 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: because obviously he's playing for his dad, but played at 152 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: multiple different schools, and if Dion hadn't existed in Shadour 153 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: was just Shadoor Sanders, not related to Deon Sanders. Probably 154 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: a pretty high probability that he transferred during his career, 155 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: even if he didn't start at Jackson State, Let's just 156 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 2: say he started it like North Carolina State. Look at 157 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: the guy probably going third jack and dark thirty. You 158 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: know of this class usc Ole miss Think about the 159 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: two guys in the National championship, Riley Leonard and Will 160 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: Howard transfer quarterbacks, Kyle McCord transfer quarterbacks. All these guys 161 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: move and improve their draft stock. So where it used 162 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: to be looked at very negatively, just because that was 163 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: just the uh conventional wisdom. If you moved, something was wrong, 164 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: and a lot of time that was true. It's like, well, 165 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 2: you just he couldn't start at Pete Carroll's, USC couldn't 166 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: cut it at mac Brown's Texas saving too much form 167 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 2: right now, there are individual examples of guys moving on 168 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: and becoming really good players. It definitely happened, but for 169 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: the most part it was on the other side of 170 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: the ledger. Something was off, and in my experience, you 171 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: like stayed away from those guys. Now, not only do 172 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: you embrace it, you completely understand why they left. It's like, yeah, 173 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: they are offering you a better opportunity and money and 174 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: for all these other positions. It's clearly that there is 175 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: no guarantee when you leave for the quarterbacks. Now, if 176 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 2: you can upgrade schools, like it's a double whammy because 177 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 2: you cash in in the short term and the long term. 178 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: We have a couple of years of data now and 179 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: we'll see how this draft class kind of plays out. 180 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: And I'm not even just talking about the top guys. 181 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm talking about seven to eight of them, but it's 182 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: pretty clear it is the move. So you know, Drake 183 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: May is a good example. He ended up getting going 184 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: three overall. Ultimately, like he's in a good spot now 185 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: with Rabel stable organization, you think, but there is a 186 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: chance if he had pulled the trigger and transferred to 187 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: let's say Alabama last year, and then the starting quarterback 188 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 2: in Nick Saban's last year, who say he couldn't have 189 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: gone one overall? Jayden Daniels is a great example. When 190 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: he transferred from Arizona State, I thought the guy was 191 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 2: like a fringe draft pick. Even his first year at 192 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 2: LSU there was a huge work in progress, and by 193 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: the end you're talking about a no brainer, top five pick, 194 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: and now it looks like he's going to be a 195 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: superstar in the NFL. So that the transfer portal when 196 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: it comes to quarterbacks, it's it's not only health these 197 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: guys draft stock, but I actually think it's really really 198 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: improved college football. It's made it much more interesting having 199 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: these guys move to just top programs. So I just 200 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: if you are a kid in college football right now 201 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 2: and people come colin at that position, and you have 202 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: an opportunity to not only make way more money, but 203 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 2: go to a program in a brighter life situation, the 204 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: data is pretty clearly on your side, you probably want 205 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 2: to say yes. Pooka Nakua was quoted in a USA 206 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 2: Today article I love Pookaakua. I mean ever since that 207 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: guy came into the NFL, I'd be lying if I 208 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 2: knew much about him in college. You know, BYU Washington 209 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: guy transfer portal has become a star in the NFL. Like, 210 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: there is not a soul that in that includes Sean 211 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: McVay unless need that thought he'd be this good like 212 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: he is. He's really good. I mean, he's one of 213 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: the few guys like the way he's talked about, like yeah, 214 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: he's he's that good. I mean, this guy's a total package. 215 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: And he basically had a quote today of saying like 216 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: he wants to retire at age thirty, which would essentially 217 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 2: give him ten years in the NFL. He's twenty three 218 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: years old going into year three and basically looking at 219 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Donald as someone to aspire to be, like, have 220 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: a great career, make some money, win at a high level, 221 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 2: produce at a high level, be really successful, and then 222 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: get out before your body falls apart. And it got 223 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: me thinking, is he alone? Are there going to be 224 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: a lot of guys who think like this and make 225 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: this decision, you know, in the future, by the time 226 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: some of these guys get to to their late twenties 227 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: early thirties. These wide receivers, these pass rushers, these offensive tackles, 228 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: they are gonna have NBA money. Look at Justin Jefferson 229 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: by the time, by the time he's thirty years old, 230 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: he'll have probably accumulated a hundred fifty million dollars. Where 231 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: you know, twenty thirty years ago, even if you were 232 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: rich relative to society, it wasn't just like, no matter what, 233 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: it'd be really hard to screw this thing up. That's 234 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 2: not going to be the case for the Puka Nakua generation. 235 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: I mean, whatever contract Puka, assuming that he stays healthy 236 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: next year and has another big season, he is going 237 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 2: to get a ton of money. And it got me 238 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: thinking like, could this start happening, Could like the Andrew Luck, 239 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, Calvin Johnson thing become something that is more 240 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 2: consistent in the NFL recently, For those of you that 241 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 2: don't follow golf, there is this thing called the Champions Tour. 242 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: It's where people over fifty that were really good get 243 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: a chance to keep playing. Now the money is not 244 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: the same, but you basically have to compete against your 245 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 2: peers and still make hundreds of thousands of dollars and 246 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: get your juices flowing. And while Tiger Tiger's not technically 247 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: eligible yet, he will be in a year or two. 248 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 2: But anyone that saw on the internet that he's head 249 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: over heels in love, that maybe just love out does golf. 250 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: And I don't even know if his body works. But 251 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: there are a ton of guys on the Champions Tour 252 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: that made millions of dollars and that are consistent frequent 253 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: players on the Champions Tour. And Rory McElroy recently made 254 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: a comment he said, I'm thirty five years old now 255 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: there is no chance, under no circumstances will I play 256 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: on that tour. When I'm fifty, I'll be Donzo And 257 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: a lot of guys like Ernie Els, who was a 258 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: peer of Tiger Woods, who is really rich. I mean, 259 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: I would imagine he's worth well over one hundred million dollars, 260 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 2: has done very very well for himself over the course 261 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: of his professional life. Took offense to it and said, 262 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: it's easy to say when you're young these comments. Wait 263 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 2: till you're our age and you want to get those 264 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: juices flowing, no matter how success full you are and 265 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: how much money you make off the course or off 266 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: the field, and what business ventures you get. There is 267 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: nothing to get your juices flowing like playing. And while 268 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: I think it's easy for Puka Nakua to say, like 269 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: I want to do this, there isn't anything in life 270 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: that will give you that rush of running out the 271 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: tunnel and playing on a Sunday. Plus, there aren't many 272 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: jobs that even as you come back to Earth. Look 273 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: at his running mate and peer, Cooper Cup whose career 274 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: kind of got derailed because of injuries. Isn't the same 275 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: player he could have been, Like, you know what, I'm out. 276 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: I've made a ton of money, I've had an incredible career, 277 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: see you later. But he just got three years now. 278 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: I don't I don't have his contract up, but let's 279 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: just say he'll make another ten, fifteen to twenty million 280 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: dollars playing for the Seattle Seahawks. You're not getting that 281 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 2: money in the real world. So I think these comments 282 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: for every Aaron Donald and Calvin Johnson. I know their 283 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: circumstances were much different. It's always easy to say things 284 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: when you're young. We've all done it, and then you 285 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: get older. I'm sure I said things when I was 286 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: twenty five or thirty years old that I look back 287 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 2: and I can't relate to or think like, God, I 288 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: was I was ignorant, I was naive. I didn't quite 289 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: understand because you can't because you're young. And then as 290 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: you get older and you look at things from a 291 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: much different view, you go, yeah, I probably didn't mean that, 292 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: and I don't think this is going to become a thing. 293 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: And if I was a betting man right now, assuming 294 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: he stays healthy, and the thing with football, you never know, 295 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: I'll be stunned if he actually does it, if you 296 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: can still play at a high level, because by then 297 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: just being a rotational wide receiver at thirty years old 298 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: might pay ten million dollars just to be like a 299 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: good veteran presence, to be a high level guy, to 300 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: have a And when you're competitive and you like to compete, 301 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: there is no high like when those lights are on. 302 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: There really isn't. Sometimes people ask me like, did you 303 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: ever think about going back? I'm like, no, not really, 304 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: do you miss anything? Of course, I mean I was 305 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: meant to do what I'm doing. I truly believe that. 306 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: But there is something cool about game day, and you know, 307 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 2: a lot of the quarterbacks that retire. Say, listen, I 308 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: don't miss a lot of it because it is a grind, 309 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: but there is nothing quite like playing the game. Okay, 310 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 2: let's dive into a couple of quick things here on 311 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: college sports. I saw something on the internet today that 312 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: it was pretty cool. It was college wrestling and Daniel Cormier, 313 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: who longtime UFC guy, was on the call for ESPN 314 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: does stuff here at the volume and his excitement level 315 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: just blew me away. I didn't even know that the 316 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: college wrestling Championships were going on or the magnitude of 317 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: actually what happened. And it turns out that this dude 318 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 2: from Oklahoma State Wyatt Hendrickson upset this guy named Gable 319 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 2: Stevenson now Gable Stevenson. This is the heavyweight matches had 320 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: hadn't lost in like seventy three college matches, had already 321 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: won gold medals, had fought in the WWE like this 322 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: guy was one of the most legendary figures, I guess, 323 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: in the history of college wrestling and was almost viewed 324 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: as unbeatable, and this guy took him down and it 325 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 2: was pretty incredible. It was. If you haven't seen it, 326 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: type it into the internet and watch it well, and 327 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: I've told this before when I went to cal Pauly 328 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: in my year and in my class was Chad Mendes, 329 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: and my college roommate, Aaron Warshowski, actually roomed with him 330 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: or with the wrestlers because he was like an early 331 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: enrollee before our freshman year. So I don't pretend to 332 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: be friends with Chad or anything, but I was around 333 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 2: him a little bit at times in college, and I 334 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 2: had never been around wrestlers, and by our senior year, 335 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: and obviously if you follow UFC, Chad went on to UFC. 336 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: He fought McGregor, he fought although like he was a 337 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 2: pretty accomplished UFC fighter, and as a wrestler, I think 338 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: his senior year he lost in the national championship at 339 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: whatever his weight class was like one. And I remember 340 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: for the first time in my life being around wrestlers 341 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: and learning that like the baddest dudes on any campus, 342 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: I don't care whether you're at Penn State, whether you're 343 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: at cal Pauly, whether you're at Oklahoma State or not 344 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: the football players. It's the three or four crazy wrestlers. 345 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: And Chad used to get in fights in college, and 346 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 2: whether you were six', five three hundred pounds or just 347 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: a normal. Human he would annihilate you and clearly went 348 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: on to THE ufc and just was not only one 349 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: of the tougher GUYS i Think i've ever been, around 350 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 2: but obviously one of the most skilled. Fighters, well WHEN 351 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: i was, LIKE i need to get a jo in, 352 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: sports so my third or fourth year in, college went 353 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: to school for five. Years my parents' neighbor In davis 354 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: worked AT Uc davis in the athletic, department and she 355 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: helped like call the ad at Cal pauly and got 356 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 2: me an interview and again Cal Pauly. ATHLETICS i, mean 357 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: this isn't exactly Like, texas so you just walk right. 358 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: In there's not much going. On SO i probably could 359 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 2: have just knocked on her door. Myself When i'm, YOUNG 360 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: i don't really know, anything and they hired me to 361 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: do some like bs AND i would just like help 362 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 2: out and do some different. Stuff EVENTUALLY i got like 363 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: the coolest job on. Campus my job at our baseball. 364 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: Stadium we had an area that had. Beer we had 365 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: like multiple kegs and hot, dogs and if you had 366 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: a ticket to get, in everything was. Free you could 367 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: drink as much as you, want and you could eat 368 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: as many hot dogs as you. Want and they also have, 369 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: peanuts so they had free, beer, peanuts hot. Dogs and 370 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: my job was to take your ticket to get in 371 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: because you need to special. Ticket so all my friends 372 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: for a COUPLE i had that. Job like junior and 373 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 2: senior year of. College everyone would come, in my. Friends 374 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 2: he had to be a little. Careful every once in a, 375 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: while like the assistant ad would be close AND i 376 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: kind of give my buddies the, wink tell him not 377 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: to come. In but for the most, part my people 378 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 2: got in and they would just get. Annihilated you, know 379 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: three game series Like friday And saturday. Night great time 380 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: to go just booze before you went out for. Free 381 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: BUT i also like would help out like basketball and wrestling. 382 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 2: Stuff AND i remember going to a wrestling match AND 383 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: i remember watching this Guy Oklahoma state came out to 384 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: Calp pauly and this is Where wyatt ended up beating 385 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 2: this guy who's A Oklahoma state. Wrestler turns out and 386 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: went on a deep. Dive Daniel cormier also was An 387 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 2: Oklahoma state. GUY i think he lost ten times in 388 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: his entire college, career and six of them were to 389 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 2: like the Guy Kale, SUNERSON i might be screwing up 390 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: his last, name who's like one of the most legendary 391 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: college wrestlers who's now was the wrestling COACH i think 392 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 2: In iowa Or Iowa state. Forever he's now At Penn. 393 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: State like just LEGEND i, mean all these, guys you 394 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 2: wouldn't fuck with any of. Them AND i remember being 395 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 2: When Oklahoma state got there and this one guy and 396 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 2: they were just every single guy destroyed everyone at Cal. 397 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 2: Pauly but one GUY i remember. Watching his name Was 398 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: Johnny hendrix and a lot of. Hype it was like 399 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 2: watching the it was Like Cooper flag of, wrestling AND 400 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 2: i remember watching him and like again Cal pauly was 401 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: a decent wrestling. Program he treated this guy like an 402 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 2: older brother treats a younger brother that's like seven years 403 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: younger in. Him he was just slamming them all over the. 404 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: Place i'm, like these guys are in a different universe 405 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: of the ability to. Fight And Johnny, hendrix Like Chad 406 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: mendez went on too THE. UFC i, mean these guys 407 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 2: were the cream of the. Crops so WHEN i see this, 408 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: heavyweight these two guys going at. IT i can't imagine 409 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 2: how tough these guys actually, are because all these guys 410 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: are on a direct path To Dana white to fight 411 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 2: in the. Octagon, now it doesn't mean they're gonna be 412 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: great fighters in the, octagon but their skills and anyone 413 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: who have gone to any schools with a legit wrestling 414 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: program knows you do not fuck with those. Guys. Ever 415 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: no matter if it's one hundred and thirty, pounder it's 416 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: easy to stay away from the cauliflower ear guy that 417 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: weighs two hundred and ten. Pounds it's another. Thing you're, like, 418 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: wait another dude is like five to. Five he was 419 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: one of the national champions this weekend is dating a 420 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: GIRL i forget what school he goes to on the volleyball, 421 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: team who's six foot. Three so he runs over to, 422 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 2: her gives her a huge hug and a. Kiss she's towering. 423 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: OVER i, mean it's like she's got to buy almost 424 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 2: a foot never see anything like. It but it's, LIKE 425 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: i don't blame, her, because, like who's gonna talk shit 426 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: to that guy and make fun of him for being 427 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: short dating this tall? GIRL i dare you to do? 428 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: It because he beat the living crap out of. You so, 429 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 2: yeah JUST i didn't know that much about wrestling UNTIL 430 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 2: i went to, college And i'm not even that big 431 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 2: of A ufc, guy BUT i respect the shit out 432 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: of these guys because that they are some, bad bad. 433 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: Dudes when it comes come to college basketball In March, 434 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: mania one thing is for. Sure nothing's for. Sure, upsets buzzer, beaters, 435 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: cinderellas top seeds going home, Early it's all gonna. 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Titans it's pretty 468 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: clear The titans are comfortable with Cam ward as a. 469 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 2: Player his, talent his ability to throw the, ball his, 470 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 2: accuracy his. Playmaking there is no disputing if you've watched 471 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 2: him play going back To Washington, state his physical attributes 472 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: are pretty. HIGH i, mean he's got a big time. 473 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: Arm he can. Move he's been an intriguing. Prospect AS 474 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: i was told from a scouting, buddy when you turn 475 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 2: on the tape at incarnate. Word but being a quarterback 476 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: is about much more than just on the. Field you 477 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: become the face of the. Organization and we saw last 478 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: year my, Guy Adam peters took a lot of heat 479 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: because he brought all the quarterbacks not Named Caleb williams 480 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: To Top, golf and he brought him all in at 481 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 2: the same time when he brought him on the quote 482 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 2: Unquote top thirty. Visit even though his job because clearly 483 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 2: several of them could really, play, honestly all of them, 484 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: could and was to determine what guy did he like the, 485 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 2: most because all of them can throw an out, route 486 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: some are faster than. Others but who do you believe 487 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 2: can be the best leader of your? Organization who can 488 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 2: handle the, pressure who can handle the ups and the 489 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 2: downs of being AN nfl. Quarterback, well anyone listening to 490 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: this who has ever been a part of an interview, 491 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: situation whether you are the decision maker or you're involved 492 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: in the, process or when you're on the other side 493 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: and you're interviewing in front of a lot of, people 494 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 2: you know that it's a pretty intense, environment and people 495 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: try to lighten the. Mood but like when you're talking 496 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: about a decision as big as the number one overall, 497 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 2: pick And i'm not just talking the thirty five to 498 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: forty million dollars that you're gonna of. Them, ideally when 499 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: you pull the trigger here when you're The, titans it's 500 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: about having my quarterback for the next, decade for the 501 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: next fifteen, years to be the face of the. Franchise 502 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 2: and you look at The. Titans their general manager comes 503 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: From Kansas, city who just spent a lot of time 504 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 2: Around Patrick mahomes and who before, that they had a 505 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 2: lot of success With Alex, smith so he has a 506 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 2: pretty good feel For obviously the, PLAYER i, mean both 507 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: those two players were very. Different Obviously patrick's a better, 508 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: player but the people In Brian callahan before he got 509 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 2: The titans, job spent years Around Joe Burrow. Well the 510 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 2: night before the pro, day The titans brass, COACHES Oc quarterback, 511 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: COACH gm, ASSISTANT gm assistant scouts all went to dinner 512 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: with Cam. Ward and while we won't talk that much 513 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: about it because the sweet throws that he had in 514 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: shorts AND t shirts will go, viral that, moment which 515 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: is not going to be, public is very important because 516 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: after that, dinner they already went in thinking they're gonna take, 517 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: them and they've scouted them pretty, heavily but really spending 518 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: time around the human being and getting a better feel 519 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: for his outlook on, life what he, values what he does, 520 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: not really helps. Crystallize AND i bet after they make 521 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: the decision here in an upcoming, month they will, say 522 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: we felt really good about him on film and the 523 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 2: player that he, Was but after that dinner is when 524 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: it crystallized for, us and that's when the final decision was. 525 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: Made so that's it for this Week's chasing. 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Answered on the, show we will start With. 535 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: Austin during the, OFFSEASON i see so many accounts talking 536 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 2: ABOUT pff grades AND raz. Scores as a former college baseball, 537 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: COACH i do love metrics and, stats but to, me 538 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: if all someone can talk about are the scores, GRADES 539 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: i question if they actually know what they're talking. About 540 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: these are, cool BUT i think the ONLY i think 541 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: they should only be a part of the. Puzzle as 542 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: a former, Scout i'm curious how much stock you take 543 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: in a guy's metrics and which ones you think are. 544 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: IMPORTANT i think the number one key to the, scores 545 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: right like where you rank at your position group historically are. 546 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: Comps so IF i get a guy THAT i think 547 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: is an excellent, prospect let's just, say like a second, 548 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: rounder but his measurables and his test scores are not, Good, 549 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: well you, go, well who is his? Comparison has anyone 550 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: with these test scores of hight, weight, speed, agility you 551 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 2: name its have never met these. Numbers we got to 552 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: do some reevaluation and vice, versa BECAUSE i think a 553 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: lot of times you got a lot of good athletes 554 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: to play in college. Football so some guys might not 555 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: be great football, players but they do the testing and 556 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: they're really. Good and sometimes those people are poor coaching 557 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: in college for whatever, reason it never. Materialized and you 558 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: can be open to taking those guys late in the. 559 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: Draft but how often do we see in the first 560 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: couple of rounds where you, go this guy wasn't that 561 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: good in, college but he tests. Well AND i also 562 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: think certain individuals set off alarms when you're just kind 563 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: of a mid, prospect like you're maybe a draftable guy 564 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 2: and then you test really. Well SO i think it 565 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: just forces you to re evaluate. Stuff but, like there 566 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: are some scores that. Matter you can't be a four 567 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: to seven, corner like that's not gonna. Work you can't 568 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 2: have really really short arms in play. Tackle it's gonna be, impossible, 569 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: Right and there's a line of, like well are Will 570 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 2: campbell's too short or Are there been a couple examples 571 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: of him being able to do, it and he's probably 572 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: right on the, edge just like small. Hands small hands 573 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 2: at quarterback aren't the end all be, all but you 574 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 2: do see it come Up Rock. Purty small hands struggles 575 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: to hold the ball in inclement. Weather Jared, goff same, 576 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: Thing Derek, carr same. Thing it's harder to hold the 577 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: ball in a driving rainstorm if your hands aren't as. Big, 578 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: now that doesn't mean you can't be good or be, 579 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: successful BUT i think and then there are also guys 580 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 2: that are just really good, players but they're just a 581 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: six foot d tackle, Right but if you watch them on, 582 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: tape Like, jesus and then you end up getting that 583 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 2: guy in the third or fourth. Round SO i think 584 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:24,719 Speaker 2: the scores are almost like a you, KNOW i use 585 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 2: the housing analogy a, lot but like they are the 586 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: check marks of different things like how many square foot your, 587 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: house how many, bedrooms how many, bathrooms how big is your. 588 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: Garage it doesn't mean it might not check all those. 589 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: Boxes it may be a great, house just like some 590 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 2: of your scores and some of your measurables might not be. 591 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 2: Great but if you're good on, tape, like, yeah we'll draft, 592 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: you but you might not get. Drafted is High in 593 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: the best case, scenario you check both. Boxes you're an 594 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: elite player and your measurables and testing scores are out 595 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: of this. World SO i don't, think, listen this is 596 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: this is difficult because you're dealing with human beings and 597 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: at the end of the, day there's no way to 598 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 2: measure who's got that dog in. Them and that separates 599 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: a lot of guys because by the, TIME i mean 600 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 2: we're talking about a, guy, listen the end of a 601 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: draft is a, crapshoot the sixth seventh. Round but when 602 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 2: you're talking about the top one hundred guys in a, 603 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: draft like most of them have played at a really high, 604 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: level have produced meet a lot of, measurables like what 605 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: separates those guys over the course of the next seven eight. 606 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: YEARS a lot of, variables and if people had the, 607 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 2: answers they would never. Miss SO i think they try 608 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: to take all those ingredients of the tape is always 609 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: going to be the most important. Thing the, scores the, 610 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: interviews the, interactions what people have said about you from 611 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 2: a scouting, standpoint your, coaches your assistant, coaches your, coordinators your, 612 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 2: teammates your hell you're acting, advisors, Right so you just 613 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 2: try to factor that all in and make the best 614 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 2: decision possible because for the most, part especially once you 615 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 2: get out of the first, round like there are gonna 616 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 2: be question marks with every. Player they're gonna be question 617 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: marks with every, player and there are question marks with 618 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: first round players. Too but the longer you, go like 619 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 2: once you're picking in the late, second, third fourth, round 620 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: you could pick typically between several guys at every. Spot 621 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 2: it's hard and you just try to make the most 622 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 2: educated guess you can. Make it's WHY i think teams 623 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 2: that draft really well have a really good feel for 624 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 2: the type people they. Like like The, ravens they know 625 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: what they're looking, for, Right The chiefs have a pretty 626 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: good idea what they're looking. For The rams now feels 627 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 2: like they're pretty dialed on the human as much as the. 628 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 2: Player can you make it make. SENSE i live in 629 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: a state where you cannot gamble on the, games BUT 630 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: i can gamble If luca will score thirty, points or 631 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 2: IF i think AN nfl quarterback will throw a bunch of. 632 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: Interceptions why is it legal for that to be allowed 633 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: for us to gamble on, that but not the actual. 634 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 2: GAMES i don't, know, MAN i THINK i THINK i 635 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 2: know the companies you're talking. About i've lived In arizona 636 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: now for whatever three, years SO i have no issues 637 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: with The DraftKings app used it a. LOT i think 638 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: they've been able to like fall under the fantasy football, 639 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: category which it's not fantasy football betting on HOW i 640 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 2: mean THAT'S i can gamble on that, too On, DraftKings, 641 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: RIGHT i. DO i do, props you can do over. 642 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 2: Unders i've tried a couple times on basketball points And 643 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 2: i've never got it. Right, like, Oh Steph curry twenty 644 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 2: two point, Five i'll hit this, easy and then he's, 645 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 2: like going into the last five, minutes he's got like sixteen. 646 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: Points But i'm with, you it's pretty. Stupid another quick. 647 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 2: Question i've been hearing a lot of concerns About genti's, 648 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 2: height but his height really big factor at running. Back if, 649 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: anything wouldn't you want my running? BACK i wouldn't want 650 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 2: my running back to be too tall because he would 651 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 2: get tackled. Easily genti being five eight could be an 652 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: advantage because his lower center of. Gravity you see the 653 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 2: way he bounces off. TACKLES i just feel IF i 654 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 2: was A, GM i would look at a few other 655 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: factors before. HEIGHT a lot of the greatest running backs 656 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: of all time aren't even six. Foot, again this gets 657 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 2: back to that score. Thing you'd have to look in 658 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: the history of THE. Nfl when's the last time a 659 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: guy under five to nine dominated it running back and 660 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 2: got drafted really. High there aren't that many, comps so 661 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 2: WHEN i look at he's. Smaller but one guy THAT 662 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 2: i look back at Was Darren, sproulls who was a 663 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 2: dominant college. Player who IS i, mean his junior year 664 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 2: At Kansas state ran for two thousand yards and sixteen. 665 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 2: Touchdowns Hell is sophomore year ran fifteen hundred yards and seventeen. 666 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 2: Touchdowns his last three years he had forty six. Touchdowns 667 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: and that's just rushing the. Ball and he's he's smaller 668 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 2: than genty he's five foot, six but like was an elite, 669 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: player and we discriminated a lot more twenty years ago 670 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 2: against Hythe but he went the fourth. Round now modern, 671 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 2: day Because sprowls could, catch he would go ON i, 672 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 2: mean he would go on the second day of the. 673 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 2: Draft but you look at these comps you, Go we'll 674 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 2: think of the star running backs in THE nfl just 675 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 2: over the last like twenty, Years, Ladanian, Tomlinson Marshall, Falk Adrian, 676 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 2: Peterson sakuon. McCaffrey you just look at some of the. 677 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 2: Guys they weren't, short, like they weren't five to eight. 678 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 2: Short now they might be five ten or five. Eleven 679 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 2: i'm with, you don't need to Be Derreck. Henry you 680 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 2: don't need to Be Adrian. Peterson but genty is closer 681 00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 2: To Darren sprolls than he Is Saquon. Barkley and the 682 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 2: other thing is all these Guys i'm listening, Right Adrian, 683 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 2: Peterson Saquon, Barkley christian, McCaffrey Be John. Robinson they played 684 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 2: AGAINST nfl players most. Weeks jenti for the most part 685 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 2: was just playing Against New mexico And President. State now 686 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 2: he had a great game Against, oregon so that really 687 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 2: works in his. Favor but if you want to take 688 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 2: him in the first, Round i'm not arguing against taking 689 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: this guy in the first. Round we're. TALKING i get 690 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 2: asked about, like should The raiders take him at six? 691 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,359 Speaker 2: Overall should The bears take him at? Ten, overall AND 692 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 2: i just, say, hey we got to pump the. Brakes and, 693 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 2: again if he becomes a, superstar no one will say. 694 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 2: Anything but if he's just okay or just even just 695 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 2: a solid, player that pick will look. Insane and that's 696 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 2: my only. TAKE i am. Pro he was my favorite 697 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 2: player to watch this. Year he was. AWESOME i went 698 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 2: out of my way to Watch Boise state. Play what 699 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 2: he was doing was, stupid but like Playing New, mexico 700 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 2: Playing San Diego state isn't the same as Playing Penn 701 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 2: state every, week and we saw it. Now granted his offensive, 702 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 2: line you, know if he would HAVE i would feel 703 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 2: much better about gent AND i respect him for doing. 704 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 2: This he stayed At boise and as coach even, said 705 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: he passed up a lot of. MONEY i think they 706 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 2: paid him like three hundred, grand which again is a. 707 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: Lot he was being offered LIKE i think seven figures 708 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 2: to go to the sweet, schools the schools like in 709 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 2: The final. Four and if he had done what he, 710 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 2: did even seventy eighty percent At texas or At alabama 711 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 2: or At Ohio state or, WHEREVER i think you would 712 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 2: feel much more comment Or oregon much more confident about taking. 713 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 2: Him really high because every single week the level of 714 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 2: competition and maybe he's proven he's. Awesome now this guy 715 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 2: got banged. Up BUT i was around WHEN i was 716 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 2: At friend Of State Ryan, matthews who was a fucking 717 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 2: tank who was five to, eleven just, JACKED i mean 718 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty pounds and could run a four 719 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 2: to four and when he was healthy dominated whoever we. 720 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: Played and we KNOW i was. There we were playing 721 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,959 Speaker 2: and The Brian Kelly cincinnati, TEAMS Ucla wisconsin like playing good. 722 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 2: Teams Boise, state who at a time was like a 723 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: top ten, program AND i Think ryan ran for like 724 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 2: two hundred dards against. Them but then he got to 725 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 2: THE nfl and he got hurt a, lot and maybe 726 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 2: he was just a guy that was gonna be injured a, 727 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: lot or maybe it's, like well he never you, know 728 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: if he would have played at like in The pac 729 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: twelve or The big, ten maybe his body would have 730 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 2: been more accustomed to. IT i just bring that up 731 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i know those are the questions being, asked AND 732 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 2: i feel Like i'm gonna come off as a, hater 733 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 2: AND i am. NOT i love the, player BUT i 734 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 2: think taking him really high in the draft is. Insane 735 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 2: it really, is BECAUSE i liked when The lions again 736 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 2: bad draft a little like. This And Jamier, gibbs who you, 737 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 2: know was five nine and a half two hundred pounds 738 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 2: now he ran a four to three. Six so his 739 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 2: college production looked nothing Like genty was not nearly as. 740 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 2: Good he started At Georgia tech and then WHERE i 741 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 2: think he backed Up Jordan, mason who the forty nine 742 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: ers just traded In, minnesota so he was part and 743 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 2: then he transferred To alabama where he was like a you, 744 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 2: know part time. Player we played a, lot but didn't 745 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 2: run for a thousand, yards but caught forty four. Balls 746 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 2: so when you look At Austin, genty WHO i don't 747 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: think ran at the, COMBINE i don't know when his 748 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 2: pro day. Is, yeah he didn't do any of that. 749 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 2: Stuff now he's thicker Than, jamir But jamir went twelve elite, 750 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: speed elite speed and can really catch the. Ball smaller 751 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 2: player and a little you, know a little, taller but 752 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: essentially very similar. Sizes if you tell Me Ashton genty 753 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 2: runs a four to three, six you can take him at. 754 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 2: TWELVE i have no problem and, listening he's clearly pretty 755 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 2: fast fine four SIX nfl combine now. Bad let's how 756 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 2: you get drafted a. Twelve now here's the other thing 757 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 2: The lions. Did they traded from six to, twelve so 758 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: they essentially Got gibbs an report without. Day do you 759 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 2: think THE nfl of college football is a better business? 760 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 2: PERSONALLY i think it's college payroll including nil isn't even. 761 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 2: Comparable college football has the same revenue, channels but THE 762 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 2: nfl makes dramatically more. Money plus college football is all split, 763 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 2: up and college football as it's set up right, NOW 764 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 2: i have to give money to women's soccer and men's 765 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 2: baseball and. Lacrosse THE nfl makes dramatically, more only has 766 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 2: thirty two teams in the, partnership and doesn't give any 767 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 2: of the money to any other. Sports there is no 768 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,919 Speaker 2: such thing As title nine in THE. Nfl title nine 769 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 2: is known as the owner's. Yacht so it's they're not comparable. 770 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 2: Businesses there are way more teams in, college a lot 771 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 2: more teams that don't generate the revenue that get to 772 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 2: leach off. It THE nfl is just it's just an 773 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 2: incredible business right. Now, Man there's no way around. It 774 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 2: talk about this on the pod so he sent me 775 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 2: This DraftKings picture Of Rick. Patino how everywhere he went 776 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 2: within a couple of, years they. Dominated people often disregard 777 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: basketball coaches as the least important in. Sports some people 778 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 2: are just, different, though and this is an example of 779 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 2: why you need to cut checks for certain guys because 780 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 2: THE roi is. INSANE i think college, BASKETBALL i think 781 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 2: THE nba pushes back on. One baseball would be number. 782 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 2: One like the manager doesn't matter in twenty twenty. Five 783 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 2: the front office runs the teams and just based on the. 784 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 2: Money you, know a baseball manager makes like what a 785 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 2: wide receiver coach in college football. Makes but no one's 786 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 2: ever argued in. Basketball in College calipari is. THO i, 787 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 2: mean look at the coaches in The sweet sixteen coach 788 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 2: K Forever. BEHEIM i think college basketball coaches were always 789 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,239 Speaker 2: really really famous because they were really really. Important SO 790 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 2: i hear. YOU i don't think. ANYONE i think it's 791 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 2: more of THE. Nba, NOW a good coach matters in THE, 792 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 2: nba but you would never remember the. Argument there's like 793 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 2: a sports talk radio argument About Brad stevens or a 794 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: top five. Player this was like a decade. Ago it's like, 795 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 2: no you would take the top. Player but even Like Eric, 796 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 2: spolstro look At Eric spolster is a bad. Team they. 797 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 2: Suck you need good, players you need star. Players in, 798 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 2: basketball Has Caler murray reached the ceiling forever being a 799 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 2: dynamic player that can't take his team to the next 800 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 2: level or do we chalk his limitations up to poor 801 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 2: coaching and the lack of supporting. TALENT i think he 802 00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 2: kind of is what he. IS i just think he's 803 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 2: a pretty fickle. Player if you catch him on the right, 804 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 2: day he can beat anyone in the. League he can 805 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 2: play a half of football that's as good As mahomes 806 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 2: Or Josh, Allen Lamar. Jackson when when he's on on individual, 807 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 2: drives he is, unstoppable scrambling around making. THROWS i would 808 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 2: say he is his talent level is really, high but 809 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 2: his consistency level is really. Low and you, know only 810 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,280 Speaker 2: people around him can really, Tell, like is it? Coaching 811 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 2: is it JUST i do think whenever you're really short 812 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 2: and this is again the high THING i Heard David. 813 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 2: ANDREWS i saw this clip the Former patriots. Center he's 814 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 2: like the thing that blows you away when you get 815 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 2: to THE nfl is how enormous and he's like WHEN 816 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 2: i came into THE, Nfl Peyton, Manning Tom, Brady Carson, 817 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 2: Palmer Philip, Rivers Eli, Manning Joe, flacco how huge these quarterbacks. 818 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 2: ARE i remember WHEN i Met Carson, PALMER i was, 819 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,280 Speaker 2: like is this guy AN nba? Player he looks like six.' 820 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 2: ten now he was like six but she's. So thick 821 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 2: these guys. Are huge And for kyler to be as 822 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 2: good as he is at five foot nine is a 823 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 2: testament to how elite his just. Athleticism miss and he's 824 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 2: got a great. Arm too, sometimes, sure guys you know 825 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 2: arm can be hit, Or miss, BUT yeah I think 826 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 2: i think he just kind of is what he. IS 827 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 2: now i think the question is can you stretch out 828 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 2: his good football a? Little LONGER but i don't think 829 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 2: he'll ever be in the. ELITE category i think he 830 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 2: can have an individual season that is. Pretty dynamic that 831 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 2: one the one year when they should have probably won, 832 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 2: the division but they. Blew it at, the end he 833 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 2: threw twenty. Four touchdowns he actually was really good to start. 834 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 2: His career his second year twenty six and twelve in 835 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 2: another eleven touchdowns on. The ground his third year and, 836 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:02,360 Speaker 2: twenty one twenty, four touchdowns ten picks with five touchdowns on. 837 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 2: The ground he's always given you, a, five, three, three. 838 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 2: Five eleven his eleven touchdown years a little bit of. 839 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 2: An outlier he actually he kind of gets sacked. A 840 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 2: lot he missed a lot. Of games so his first 841 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 2: two years never. Got hurt, second year missed a. Couple games, 842 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 2: THIRD year i think that's when he tears acl and 843 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 2: then he. Comes back he actually was durable, last year 844 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 2: played in every game they went eight, to nine so he's. 845 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 2: Fully healthy last year eight and nine sixty, eight percent 846 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 2: so he's. Pretty accurate twenty one. And eleven THEY just 847 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 2: i think he'd like a little more explosion. ON offense, 848 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 2: i mean that's why They Drafted. MARVIN harrison I think 849 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,240 Speaker 2: i think he's kind of the. Worst spot Like he's 850 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 2: he's definitely better than a lot, Of guys but is 851 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 2: he good enough to be paying a ton of money 852 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 2: and be a. Franchise quarterback, Probably not but you could do. 853 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 2: Way WORSE like, i mean, eight nine some of those 854 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 2: were definitely, on him but some of those wins were on. 855 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 2: Him too he's just he's a hard to player to 856 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 2: kind of like describe which is good and bad if 857 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,240 Speaker 2: You're a. Cardinal fan As a, seahawk FAN our gm 858 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 2: has been heavily criticized for not taking lineman by many 859 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 2: people in the, fan base either he's not spending big 860 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 2: money in free agency or whiffing on our offensive line. 861 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,919 Speaker 2: Draft picks as a, former scout what are the most 862 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 2: important aspects to look for in scouting interior? Offensive lineman 863 00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 2: and do you Agree with schneider's free agent philosophy of 864 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 2: not reaching? For, need well when you reach in, free 865 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 2: agency you gotta pay. A lot SO if I if 866 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 2: i'm reaching for, a guard it's gonna cost me twenty 867 00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 2: two million dollars. A year look At the packers they 868 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 2: Just Bought. Aaron Banks aaron banks is like an average starter, 869 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,799 Speaker 2: at best and they're paying a ton. Of Money so 870 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 2: i'm not against his philosophy. AT all i do think 871 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 2: with guards and centers. Your scheme now He's. Got kubiak 872 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 2: they run a zone, running scheme so they're gonna look 873 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 2: for athletes more than. Power maulers and the key with 874 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 2: the garter center in the you know kind of the 875 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 2: zone running scheme is being able to move your feet 876 00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 2: and position. Positional, block, now luckily, you know it's easier 877 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 2: to find those guys Than Like larry Allen Or logan 878 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 2: mankins or you know someone. Like that, BUT like i 879 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 2: think a lot of people would tell you that the 880 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 2: offensive line development in college has never been worse because 881 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,919 Speaker 2: when a, guy's decent he gets a bunch, of money he's, 882 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 2: moving schools and his development IS just i don't want 883 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 2: to say it's been slowed, or stopped but it's just 884 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 2: it's not the same as it used to that be 885 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 2: so it's it's more difficult. To find and then at 886 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 2: the end of, the day like guards, and centers like. 887 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 2: D tackles i think the number one thing you would 888 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 2: hear talking to, HEAD coaches, GMS coordinators o line coaches, like, toughness, toughness. 889 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 2: Mindset toughness, you know the one thing you saw With 890 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 2: that eagles run Is like jurgen's back is, Not working 891 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 2: dickerson's leg is like, falling off and he like wouldn't 892 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 2: come out of. The game and THEN if i, remember 893 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 2: correctly Like did jurgensen go back in the game when he? 894 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 2: Didn't start And then dickerson, is like, these guys you 895 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 2: gotta be tough as nails to play garden CENTER when 896 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 2: i Think Of jason Kelsey or i'll. Never FORGET when 897 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 2: i WAS a Ga At, fresno State coach Hill Had 898 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 2: jim otto talk to. The team i've told this before 899 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 2: and he did LIKE a Q and a after he gave 900 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 2: like a pump. UP speech i think he passed away 901 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 2: pretty recently and someone on the team, asked him like 902 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 2: the toughest player he ever? Went against, YOU know i 903 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 2: Mean the raiders are playing Like Mean joe green every 904 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 2: single year in the in the peak of that rivalry in, 905 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 2: The Seventies Mean. JOE green I think wiley considered, one 906 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 2: of if not the best. Defensive tackles they also Played 907 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,759 Speaker 2: The Purple people eaters In The. Super bowl they won. 908 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 2: Pretty sure they had a Guy Named, deacon Jones And jim, 909 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 2: outo said, by far the toughest Guy that i've ever 910 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 2: played against is THE guy i see in the MORNING 911 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,120 Speaker 2: when i look in. THE mirror i, just think kind of, 912 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 2: LIKE wrestlers i need my guards and, centers tough and 913 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,359 Speaker 2: there's a different level of toughness IN, the nfl and 914 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 2: it's just hard. To Quantify the cardinals joke of. A 915 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,399 Speaker 2: franchise you're, not wrong but they are my TEAM play 916 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,399 Speaker 2: gm what can they do to. BE relevant i don't 917 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 2: think they're a joke of a franchise in the sense 918 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 2: of like they got A Real jonathan gannon's a. REAL 919 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 2: coach i Think they've. They're not it's more. THE owner 920 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 2: i think it's not viewed, very highly but like from a, 921 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 2: football standpoint like they got, Good players they've been competitive 922 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 2: the last couple of Years. With kyler they've had, some 923 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 2: moments you Know with bruce arians and kind like they 924 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 2: were a. Real franchise they were really good there for 925 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,479 Speaker 2: a couple. Of YEARS so i think anytime that you're 926 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 2: just like it almost feels like they're in. A relationship, 927 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 2: you know you're not gonna, marry her but in a 928 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 2: weird you're like, living together so you're essentially married and 929 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 2: you can't really break up, with ther but you're kind. 930 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 2: Of stuck you don't even like. Each other it's almost like. 931 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 2: Your roommates that's kind Of the. KYLER situation i know 932 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 2: they've spoken about, it positively, BUT like i think we 933 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 2: have to acknowledge like they're in this weird spot, with 934 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 2: him and it could get. Way, worse like let's just 935 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 2: say they traded him. To whoever let's just say next 936 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,160 Speaker 2: offseason they trade him because they go eight to nine 937 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 2: again and he has a. Similar season they just trade 938 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 2: him for like second round pick to move on and. 939 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 2: Just reset there's a chance they're way worse at quarterback for. 940 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,800 Speaker 2: A while, but like that is not going to be. 941 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 2: Good enough but think about the best two teams. You've 942 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,719 Speaker 2: Had carson palmer, was healthy high, end player the one 943 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 2: You Were kurt Warner obviously hall. Of FAMER but i 944 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 2: think when you're in Business, with kyler it's just a 945 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 2: tough spot because you're paying, a premium but you're not 946 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 2: always getting. A premium this isn't a, football question but 947 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 2: just curious on. Your take i'm twenty four. Years old 948 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 2: i'm aspiring, film director currently Living, in nashville but my 949 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,320 Speaker 2: lease Expires. In january so OFTEN that I hear i 950 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,439 Speaker 2: should Move To los Angeles Or new york in order 951 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 2: to get my foot in the door in. The INDUSTRY 952 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 2: but i feel LIKE maybe i don't fully grasp. That 953 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 2: advice moving somewhere does not automatically grant, you success? Does 954 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,839 Speaker 2: it for people who give that kind of advice what 955 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 2: do you think they? Are actual what do you think 956 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,800 Speaker 2: are the actual tangible benefits to moving to one of? 957 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 2: These places actionable things that would allow me to have 958 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 2: a plan before moving. Out there curious. Your Thoughts lifelong, 959 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: steelers fan, Big, fan well, congrats man follow, your dreams. 960 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 2: Bro do i'm being. Dead serious that's, Really. COOL listen 961 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 2: i don't know the specifics on. Your industry, you know 962 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 2: forever it was like if you wanted to Work, in, HOLLYWOOD, movies, 963 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 2: Tv whatever like people were Moving to la aspiring actors 964 00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,000 Speaker 2: and actresses just to do whatever they could to be 965 00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 2: in the vicinity of. Those HUMANS and I think i 966 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 2: remember three or four, years ago my brother's college roommate 967 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,280 Speaker 2: works for this big, almond farmer and this almond farmer 968 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 2: had this huge party In the fresno area and he 969 00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 2: tried To Get stevie nicks to. Come play he couldn't 970 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,560 Speaker 2: and He Got joan. Jet instead she was. Freaking awesome 971 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 2: this is like a party for like two, thousand people 972 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 2: and Me and, jeff went and he Also Had, john 973 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 2: PARTY who's i don't want, to say like a country, 974 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 2: music superstar but he's a pretty. BIG deal i think he's. 975 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 2: Pretty good he's he's a country musician who's, like legit 976 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 2: and he also played. The party so it was Him 977 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 2: And joan jet for a couple. Thousand people and there 978 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 2: was an after party that me and my brother got 979 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 2: it kind of like snuck our way into because it 980 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 2: was only like not that many People in, russell's Office 981 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,479 Speaker 2: And john party was in there with some, other people 982 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 2: and eventually everyone left and it was Just Me Jeff 983 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 2: john party and like a, twelve back and we were 984 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 2: just drinking talking and he told this story about when 985 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 2: he was coming up and he was from, you know 986 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 2: kind Of the, sacramento area, and someone, this guy, this 987 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:24,959 Speaker 2: businessman who Eventually, told john if you do not leave 988 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 2: this area and Move, to nashville you might as well 989 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,200 Speaker 2: just go into construction or do. Something else you will never. 990 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 2: Make it so he picked up and he left and 991 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 2: he Went to nashville and the rest. Is HISTORY and 992 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 2: i think the one thing he said, IS like i 993 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 2: just got to be around, music producers people in THE 994 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 2: industry i could, just meet whether it through events or 995 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 2: whether it was just, playing places and have those. People 996 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 2: attending now in a situation like you if you're a, 997 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 2: movie producer right, or director or you want to work in? 998 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 2: That world part of quote unquote Go. To la do 999 00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 2: you just walk up to the three or four big 1000 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 2: production operations and knock on the door and try to get? A? 1001 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:11,120 Speaker 2: Job like are you any more likely seeing those people 1002 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,319 Speaker 2: because they work in, an office they're not out like 1003 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 2: recruiting in the town for someone? Like you or does it? 1004 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 2: Even matter can you just find a way to send 1005 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 2: your stuff to? Those people now you could argue do 1006 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 2: those people hold the same amount of power as they? 1007 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,000 Speaker 2: Once did would it be more important to get in 1008 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 2: front of the Guy, at netflix of the Guy, at 1009 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 2: amazon of the guy on you know whoever Runs NBC's 1010 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 2: peacock and are you any more likely doing that through 1011 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 2: the internet than how are you ever going to get 1012 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 2: in front of? These PEOPLE so i hear you like 1013 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 2: it's easy To play devil's advocate and go HOW do 1014 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 2: i get in front of this? Human BEING and i, 1015 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 2: would say in twenty, twenty five you'd have to be, pretty, 1016 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,680 Speaker 2: SPECIFIC right i don't think you would just knock on 1017 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 2: any door and a lot of these people the business is. 1018 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 2: Dramatically changing you could, also argue if you're able to 1019 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 2: find a way TO produce i don't know your own 1020 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 2: little mini movies or whatever and put them. On YouTube 1021 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 2: you were able to create things now from Anywhere in 1022 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 2: america that can you can just send the link to 1023 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 2: those People through LinkedIn that you could hustle without. Being 1024 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 2: THERE so i think there are pros and cons. TO 1025 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 2: it i think twenty thirty, years ago you would have, 1026 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 2: no choice like if you wanted to get into, the 1027 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 2: industry you would have to gravitate in your field to 1028 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 2: one of. Those places you could argue in. Country music 1029 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 2: now you don't have to Move to nashville. RIGHT away 1030 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 2: i could become a star on TikTok on instagram and 1031 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 2: be discovered. THAT way i don't need to Play on 1032 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 2: Broadway RIGHT so i think the world's changed because Of. The. 1033 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 2: INTERNET now i don't exactly know your story of like 1034 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 2: are you already producing stuff that's AVAILABLE that i could 1035 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 2: click on? A link or have you not done anything 1036 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 2: and you just have Ideas down because if you're at, 1037 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 2: that stage you probably would want to get some sort 1038 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 2: of mentorship working. For someone but in, my EXPERIENCE like 1039 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 2: i could never have made it TO the NFL if 1040 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 2: i did not get the opportunity to Work At, fresno 1041 00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,680 Speaker 2: state and THE way i got my cousin had played 1042 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,960 Speaker 2: there is a. Long snapper but during spring break, ONE 1043 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 2: year i had been calling around tried to get. A 1044 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 2: gig i just Drove to fresno and went up to 1045 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 2: the office and met, the guy and that's how our 1046 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 2: kind of. Relationship started so sometimes in a world of 1047 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 2: like emails and dms and all, that stuff, there is, 1048 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,440 Speaker 2: you know value to. Meeting people why couldn't, YOU just 1049 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 2: i don't know your, financial situation just Go to La Or, 1050 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 2: new york rent the cheapest, hotel possible spend a week 1051 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 2: and just go knock on some doors or attack it 1052 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 2: that way as a person instead of moving. Out THERE 1053 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 2: so i would argue in twenty, twenty five the OLD 1054 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 2: school i got to go there is not as important 1055 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 2: as it. Once was but there always is a VALUE 1056 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 2: of i, don't know being in the vicinity of a. 1057 01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 2: HUMAN being, i think is there any sort, of convention, 1058 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,800 Speaker 2: you know like, for football, for example the combine things 1059 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,880 Speaker 2: like that where people trying to get, involved coaching, you 1060 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 2: know clinics and things where people go to to, meet people, 1061 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 2: shake hands develop. A network i would say those things 1062 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 2: are pretty important that don't force you, to MOVE but 1063 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 2: i don't think your career just ends if you don't 1064 01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 2: move there by. Any MEANS so, i guess as a 1065 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 2: long winded way of, saying, THAT like i don't think 1066 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 2: necessarily you have, to go but there are a lot 1067 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 2: of VARIABLES that i don't know about your situation for 1068 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 2: me to give. YOU advice i, do think, you KNOW 1069 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,840 Speaker 2: when i first got into, the MEDIA when i was, 1070 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 2: doing radio the MORE events i, went to, you know 1071 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 2: the MORE people i, met in the more my life 1072 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:13,200 Speaker 2: just or, my career my professional. Life expanded SO when 1073 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 2: i first left football in thirteen and for like fourteen, 1074 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen constantly going To obviously Niners and, raiders PRACTICE 1075 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 2: but i went to a Ton of. WARRIOR games i 1076 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,800 Speaker 2: went to a Ton of. GIANTS games i was. Just 1077 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 2: around so there's always. A benefit and it's not apples 1078 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 2: to apples to, your question but just, being around especially if, 1079 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 2: you're young that's the other thing you got going for you. 1080 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 2: You're young it gets harder once you get my agency and, be, 1081 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 2: Like ah i'm not that interested in doing that when, 1082 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 2: you're young assuming, you're single kind of times on, your 1083 01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 2: side opportunities on, your side AND like, i said even 1084 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 2: if you don't need, to move, just like look at some, 1085 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 2: shitty hotel scrape together see if, you can, you know 1086 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 2: if you can get a couple hundred bucks AND just 1087 01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 2: i guess you got to fly, there too But help 1088 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 2: maybe can take the bus and just go for like 1089 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 2: a week and just go. Guerrilla warfare you map out 1090 01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 2: A plan i need To, MEET again i don't know. 1091 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 2: Your industry these three or, four people EVEN if i 1092 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 2: meet their assistance right or someone in, their sinning HOW 1093 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 2: do i just make an impression at like thirty second, 1094 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 2: elevator pitch EVEN if i only get in front of 1095 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 2: one of the five people with connection to That person as, 1096 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 2: NIGALS fan i was sad To See milton, william GO 1097 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 2: but i get there was No way philly was gonna 1098 01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 2: pay him that, that said do you think They'll Pay 1099 01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 2: jalen carter if he has another year like the one 1100 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 2: and what will? He cout the answer, is yes and 1101 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 2: a lot. Of money if he keeps playing like, he's 1102 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 2: playing he'll be, one of if not the highest paid 1103 01:02:55,000 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 2: players in. The league and His agent rosenous now he's 1104 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 2: done a lot of Deals, with howie but it will not, 1105 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 2: come CHEAP so i would say an astronomical amount. OF 1106 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,640 Speaker 2: money i think Ideally the eagles probably would play it out. 1107 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 2: Four years it'd be interesting if he has another sweet 1108 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 2: year he's Like An? All pro will you want to 1109 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 2: get paid after his? Third year question for the pod 1110 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 2: do you think there is a higher chance that one 1111 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:24,000 Speaker 2: of the second Tier quarterbacks, Gabriel McCord dart in this 1112 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 2: year's draft has more success if they go to a 1113 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 2: better situation in the later Rounds than Ward or sanders in. 1114 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,640 Speaker 2: The first, OF course. I would i would imagine if 1115 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 2: we look back on, the draft a ton of the 1116 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 2: second tier guys become really. GOOD players, i mean think 1117 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 2: about some of the starters over the. Last decade purty seventh, 1118 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,160 Speaker 2: round pick, Great Situation dak prescott fourth, round pick, Great 1119 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 2: situation cousins fourth. Round pick not a, great situation but 1120 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 2: kind of. Worked Out russell wilson third. Round pick like 1121 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 2: what If You're jackson dart and you go To the 1122 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,200 Speaker 2: rams and you go To the rams and you get 1123 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 2: to sit for a Year buying stafford and the next, 1124 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 2: Year start that's a much better situation Than the titans Or. 1125 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,840 Speaker 2: The giants i'm sure this idea has, been considered maybe, 1126 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 2: even TRIED but, i can't for the life of me 1127 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,120 Speaker 2: think why THE current nfl rules someone wouldn't. Try this 1128 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 2: imagine having a uniquely, tall player Someone, like shack playing. 1129 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,920 Speaker 2: TIGHT end i would just tell that player to run, 1130 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 2: five yards, turn around have the quarterback throw the ball 1131 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 2: high enough only the tight end could. Grab it how 1132 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 2: would that not? Be, UNSTOPPABLE again i can't imagine this 1133 01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,880 Speaker 2: idea has never, been Considered but i'm curious as. YOUR 1134 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 2: take i would imagine it's been discussed. That guy let's 1135 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 2: just pick a, seven footer even if he's not as Big, 1136 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 2: as shack But Let's, Kevin Garneth. Anthony, davis okay he runs, 1137 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 2: five yards. Turns around there's never been an easier human, 1138 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,280 Speaker 2: to Tackle and i'm taking you out of your legs 1139 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 2: like you're gonna. Get INJURED so i think it's. In 1140 01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 2: theory it's easy to say it out loud and kind 1141 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,439 Speaker 2: of makes, some success but part of being a good. 1142 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 2: Tight End, Kelsey Kittle, mark andrews whoever, You, Know Kronk, 1143 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 2: Tony Gonzalez, Shanna sharp you're like great with the ball in. 1144 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 2: Your hands you can, make moves you can, run routes, 1145 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,120 Speaker 2: so like do those guys have to change of direction at? 1146 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,400 Speaker 2: Their HEIGHT and i also think they're very very easy, 1147 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 2: To TACKLE so i think that's. The problem very easy 1148 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 2: to tackle and how fast? Are they right RELATIVE to? 1149 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,880 Speaker 2: NFL players i think there's a certain height AS an 1150 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 2: nfl player that actually is. A disadvantage that would be my. 1151 01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 2: JUST take i haven't thought that much. ABOUT it i 1152 01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 2: hear what you're saying and maybe, be effective but just 1153 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,120 Speaker 2: you're gonna have a roster spot for a guy that 1154 01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 2: just runs four or five yard routes because, you're right 1155 01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 2: if you can, throw it can the? Guy catch if 1156 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 2: you think about most of the tight ends that have been, 1157 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 2: basketball players they've actually been short relative to, basketball, players 1158 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 2: right they're like six three to. Six Five. Antonio gates 1159 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,960 Speaker 2: i'm a Fan Of ryan poles and what he has 1160 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 2: been able to Build. In chicago the wins haven't, been 1161 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 2: there but this may be the best team we've had 1162 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 2: Since the. Lovey days well he's Had, Some, Missus Claypool. 1163 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,479 Speaker 2: Nate davis he has great hits and that has Given 1164 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 2: the bears their best shot. At relevancy while our team 1165 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,320 Speaker 2: has been tailored To Fit ben, Johnson's style poles hasn't 1166 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,360 Speaker 2: been getting THE credit i think. He deserves it seems 1167 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,920 Speaker 2: as though everyone has given the Credit to ben as 1168 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 2: if he's building out the. ROSTER himself i don't doubt 1169 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 2: The Role ben johnson is most likely playing in the, 1170 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,920 Speaker 2: roster MOVES but i feel that the guy who is 1171 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,400 Speaker 2: negotiating and making them happen deserves. More credit OR am? 1172 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,760 Speaker 2: I Wrong and poles has had his role diminished With 1173 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 2: The ben. Johnson, SHOW yeah, I mean i think part 1174 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 2: of it is the carryover from. Last year so the 1175 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 2: stink of the. Previous season they Fired ebra Flusen, on, 1176 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 2: thanksgiving Right they so the coach has been out, of 1177 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,960 Speaker 2: sight out of mind for so long that the hype 1178 01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 2: of last year a lot Revolved Around. RYAN poles i 1179 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 2: considered it the greatest trade in the history of sports 1180 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 2: for what he Got, from carolina and then the season, you're, 1181 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 2: like well still pretty. Good trade you would, redo it but, 1182 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:21,160 Speaker 2: it's like we still gotta let this thing. Play out 1183 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,120 Speaker 2: how well it works out For the Bears and listen's 1184 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 2: he definitely has not. Been bad like they had a 1185 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 2: lot of talent on the field last year and now 1186 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,800 Speaker 2: at their, offensive line it's. Much Better and i'm. WITH you, 1187 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 2: i mean with how bad their offensive, line Was Whether 1188 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,000 Speaker 2: ben johnson was their coach or me or you was, 1189 01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,360 Speaker 2: their coach they were gonna trade for some offensive wine 1190 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 2: help or sign offensive. Wine HELP but i, do, think 1191 01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,360 Speaker 2: Listen the caleb thing was the easiest thing to ever, 1192 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 2: do right and he didn't even entertain drafting the. Other 1193 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 2: guys shouldn't he have been Seriously Entertaining jade Daniels And. 1194 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 2: Drake may shouldn't he have brought? Them in and he? 1195 01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 2: Never did and Then the roma DONSAY pick I, LIKE 1196 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,479 Speaker 2: rome i Am pro, roma doonsay but Like the bear 1197 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 2: should have Not drafted, roma doonsay they should have drafted an, 1198 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,680 Speaker 2: offensive lineman and there were a ton on, the board 1199 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 2: and that's a. Big MISTAKE so i do Think the 1200 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,559 Speaker 2: kleb thing like a lot of Pressures. On kleb And 1201 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,720 Speaker 2: if jayden continues to, play well like you could have. 1202 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:27,760 Speaker 2: Taken Him so i'm not gonna say. It's over they've played, 1203 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:32,639 Speaker 2: one season but that, one season it's Not Like jayden 1204 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 2: daniels played on some. Loaded team when scouting, running backs 1205 01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 2: how do you weigh the double edged sword of strength 1206 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 2: of schedule. Versus mileage jent played In The mountain west 1207 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,720 Speaker 2: and didn't face top, defensive talent but also probably has 1208 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,599 Speaker 2: more gas in the tank due to NOT facing sec. 1209 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 2: Defensive lineman does it all even out and make conference 1210 01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,960 Speaker 2: or relevance from mid to top tier? Running? Backs ps 1211 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 2: can we get a save it or save it or 1212 01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 2: shave It For? Jed? UYORK yeah i mean it's really 1213 01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 2: really hard because because when you excel In The big 1214 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 2: ten OR the sec as a, running back you are 1215 01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 2: playing a TON of nfl, Defensive Players like i'm pro 1216 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 2: S You. Door sanders but the success he had playing 1217 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,400 Speaker 2: quarterback In The big twelve was not against a LOT of. 1218 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,919 Speaker 2: Nfl players and While The big twelve is a powerful 1219 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:26,639 Speaker 2: conference from a, talent standpoint it's not great. On defense 1220 01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,640 Speaker 2: so how many, defensive linemen linebackers and corners are you 1221 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,400 Speaker 2: playing that are going to go TO? The nfl so 1222 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 2: you're evaluating them, it's, like well THESE aren't. Nfl, players 1223 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 2: well when you play IN the sec Or The, big 1224 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,640 Speaker 2: ten like every, single week you're playing a BUNCH of, 1225 01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 2: Nfl players so it's an. Easier evaluation there's no right 1226 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,080 Speaker 2: or wrong way to do It because we've seen a 1227 01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 2: lot of guys not playing big conferences and go on 1228 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,439 Speaker 2: to excel IN. The NFL but, i, think like if 1229 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,360 Speaker 2: you Just expect genty to like break all these Tackles 1230 01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,479 Speaker 2: Against fred Warner And, luke keakley and, IT'S like I know, 1231 01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 2: looke's retired but you KNOW what, i mean it's probably not. 1232 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,719 Speaker 2: Gonna happen so like the dominance AND his i remember 1233 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:11,439 Speaker 2: a scout texting me during, The season, they're like his 1234 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:16,679 Speaker 2: highlight tape, is stupid and you just go to YouTube 1235 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,679 Speaker 2: Type in Ashton gent t twenty. Twenty four he looks 1236 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,640 Speaker 2: like a video. GAME player i do think some of 1237 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,599 Speaker 2: those no one's arguing. As talent he is a. Elite 1238 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 2: talent he's a. Special talent but like the guys he's 1239 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 2: doing it against aren't a BUNCH of. Nfl GUYS so 1240 01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 2: i don't have a great answer. FOR you i think 1241 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 2: you put more stock into when guys excel at the 1242 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,599 Speaker 2: highest level against the. Best players and if you dominate 1243 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:48,280 Speaker 2: on offense IN, the sec you're gonna be pretty good. 1244 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,880 Speaker 2: On offense probably Like, brock bowers unstoppable IN the sec 1245 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,839 Speaker 2: is pretty good IN. The nfl, like that it's usually 1246 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 2: sometimes in college you never. Really know Right In mountain 1247 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,800 Speaker 2: west or you know In the act twelve, was down 1248 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 2: it's kind of hit. Or miss you're taking an. Educated 1249 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:07,720 Speaker 2: Guess So ashton gent could be a, Pro, bowler like 1250 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:09,960 Speaker 2: it wouldn't shock me if you tell me he Makes Two, 1251 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,640 Speaker 2: Pro bowls and it wouldn't shock me at off you 1252 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 2: say he never Makes A. Pro bowl, you Know when 1253 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,800 Speaker 2: saquon came out and, went like this Guy's A pro, 1254 01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 2: BOWL talent i would say the same Thing About. Bjhon 1255 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,800 Speaker 2: robinson now there are, other variables how well your team's 1256 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 2: run all, this stuff but like, you want these guys are, 1257 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,800 Speaker 2: Freak SHOWS like i Don't put gent on. That level 1258 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,639 Speaker 2: same thing, With, McCaffrey, like wait this guy can play 1259 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 2: receiver and he's like a dominant inside runner. As well 1260 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,519 Speaker 2: how's this not gonna work well injuries because when he's. Healthy, 1261 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:44,880 Speaker 2: dominates okay, last question what are the realistic expectations For? 1262 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 2: Arch Manning The quinn viewers era, had moments but the 1263 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,360 Speaker 2: definition of heis. And lows my expectations aren't. That high 1264 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,639 Speaker 2: now the team is gonna, be STACKED and i think. 1265 01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,840 Speaker 2: Y're one he can play LIKE a jj McCarthy. Type 1266 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:02,160 Speaker 2: role now he's a better ATHLETE than. Jj McCarthy but 1267 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,719 Speaker 2: ONE thing i think people don't, quite understand and maybe 1268 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 2: it improves dramatically. This offseason he does not have some 1269 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 2: huge arm so like when you Watch cam Ward Or 1270 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 2: caleb Williams Or jaden drake may like they were. THROWING 1271 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,559 Speaker 2: seeds I think arch is much more Closer to peyton 1272 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 2: than He is eli in terms. Of ARMSTRING so i 1273 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,559 Speaker 2: think the Hype on arch. Is outrageous anything less than 1274 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 2: like superstardom is gonna feel like. A letdown i think 1275 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,600 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a. Little difficult so, MY expectation i 1276 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 2: think he's gonna be a. Good player this team's, So 1277 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 2: STACKED like i wouldn't just put all my money on 1278 01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 2: him being the future number one overall pick based ON 1279 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:50,439 Speaker 2: what i saw him throwing the. Ball, velosity now it's 1280 01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:52,479 Speaker 2: not the end all, be all but he plays IN. 1281 01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,760 Speaker 2: The sec so over the next assuming he's gonna play 1282 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 2: at minimum a couple of years, in COLLEGE which i 1283 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,760 Speaker 2: would expect play next year and then, another year he's 1284 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,120 Speaker 2: gonna playing a LOT of nfl PLAYERS, at Lsu, at 1285 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,680 Speaker 2: ALABAMA at A and M at Georgia, at florida like 1286 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,240 Speaker 2: he's going up against the cream of. The crop so we're, gonna, 1287 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:16,000 Speaker 2: Know right, AND yeah i would say my expectations this 1288 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 2: upcoming year, are TEMPERED and i honestly feel it's like 1289 01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 2: unfair the hype on this guy might be the biggest 1290 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,679 Speaker 2: ever because of the build up of his family name 1291 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 2: other guys he just got. To play so like the 1292 01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 2: hype on Whoever t Bow Or caleb williams or luck 1293 01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,479 Speaker 2: happened as they. Were playing it, was, like oh this 1294 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 2: is the greatest prospect of, All Time. Trevor lawrence but 1295 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 2: it was like while they, were playing all this hype On. 1296 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 2: Arch manning it's like he's what had a couple of 1297 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,880 Speaker 2: spot Starts for, quinn yours he's, barely played came In 1298 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,400 Speaker 2: against georgia in, a blowout like it's, it's tough really, 1299 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,840 Speaker 2: good athlete. ARM strength i gotta. SEE it i gotta. 1300 01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,639 Speaker 2: See IT and, I mean i think he's just talking 1301 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 2: about like he's a future number one overall pick now, 1302 01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:07,000 Speaker 2: size check, clearly character high, level cat like the, way 1303 01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,720 Speaker 2: teammate The way i've, Read articles clearly an. Impressive guy 1304 01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,720 Speaker 2: how he. Throws it i'm fascinated to see he's in an. 1305 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,639 Speaker 2: INCREDIBLE spot, i mean the team over the next couple 1306 01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:23,559 Speaker 2: of years is Gonna Be it's southern Version Of ohio state, 1307 01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:28,840 Speaker 2: unlimited money, sweet roster. Skilled dudes so he's got he's 1308 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:33,200 Speaker 2: got awesome, Play caller he's in an. Incredible spot but 1309 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,519 Speaker 2: the hype, for guy that's it's. IT'S hard i mean 1310 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,479 Speaker 2: For every, cooper flag it's like, the hype, the hype. 1311 01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,360 Speaker 2: The hype then he, shows up He's, like jesus and then 1312 01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,720 Speaker 2: he just dominates number one. Overall pick there are a 1313 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,680 Speaker 2: lot of people that go the. Other WAY and i 1314 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,640 Speaker 2: think the Factor, like arch a huge part of, his 1315 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 2: hype which was out of, his control was just. His 1316 01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:57,439 Speaker 2: name would he have, been this would we be discussing 1317 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 2: him if his Name Was, Arch Johnson, Arch Williamson arch 1318 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:07,439 Speaker 2: middle cough, no chance, no chance doesn't mean he can't 1319 01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 2: become a. Great PLAYER but i. Don't know, i'm EXCITED 1320 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 2: like i can't wait to. WATCH him, a big big 1321 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 2: fan Of the. Manning FAMILY but i think, THE hype, 1322 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:20,920 Speaker 2: i mean it feels like he's talked about like he's 1323 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,000 Speaker 2: just a better player than like all the number one 1324 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 2: picks over the last like. Fifteen years anything Less than 1325 01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,960 Speaker 2: arch being like consensus number one pick feels like it's 1326 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,320 Speaker 2: going to be. A disappointment That's all. I'M saying i 1327 01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,720 Speaker 2: feel like. It's unfair how's he going to live up? 1328 01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:40,040 Speaker 2: TO that i. Don't know audios the volume