WEBVTT - Negotiating from Strength - August 15th, Hour 1

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Thanks Scott Shannon, and thanks to all of

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<v Speaker 1>you for being with us. Right down our toll free

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<v Speaker 1>telephone number, it's eight hundred and ninety four to one,

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<v Speaker 1>Sean if you want to be a part of the program.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are not near a television, let me describe

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<v Speaker 1>the scene. Oh maybe about twenty thirty minutes ago President Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>air Force one landed. Here. We are broadcasting this radio

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<v Speaker 1>program from Joint Base Elmendorf Richardson in Anchorage, Alaska. This

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<v Speaker 1>is where the summit has taken place between President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and Vladimir Putin, and in the last six seven minutes

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<v Speaker 1>or so of Vladimir Putin has touchdown. Let me give

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<v Speaker 1>you a quick rundown of what we expect the day

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<v Speaker 1>to be like. Is Air Force one arrived, And sure enough,

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<v Speaker 1>Vladimir Putin has arrived. President Trump has not come off

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<v Speaker 1>Air Force One. He's but that I have the whole schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>This is all planned out, literally to the minute, so

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the day's going to be like. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there are many unpredictable things that can happen. They'll guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>this meeting will last more than five minutes. Remember President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump said, I think I'll know in two minutes if

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<v Speaker 1>he's serious. I don't think Putin would be here if

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<v Speaker 1>there's not some level desire interest in coming to some agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>And President Trump has been very smart about how he's

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<v Speaker 1>managed expectations about all of this and how this is

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<v Speaker 1>a first step and that the next step if in

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<v Speaker 1>fact Putin is really willing he's going to make that determination.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he may know within two minutes. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's being able to read a room. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that part. I wonder what he thinks of me when

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<v Speaker 1>he sees me, you know, before the interview that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to do with him tonight, He'll size me up

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<v Speaker 1>in a minute and a half. I'm like, that's it, Handedy,

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<v Speaker 1>you're out anyway. I'll go through the itinerary for you,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you know. Between they're both going to come

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<v Speaker 1>off with the plane. Here's President Trump. As a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, now again this is all planned, all orchestrated.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump is making his descent down Air Force one.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I would not be surprised any second

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<v Speaker 1>now if you saw Vladimir Putin do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can tell you right now, I'm in an

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<v Speaker 1>airport hangar. If I were to walk out this door

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<v Speaker 1>and hit the hangar and walk to the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the hangar, I'd be watching this live. That's how close

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<v Speaker 1>we are to what was actually happening here. Vladimir Putin

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<v Speaker 1>now is coming down. I think that's Vladimir, comrade, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you vodka? Again? All of this predetermined, all of

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<v Speaker 1>this orchestrated. So this is what they call a spray

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<v Speaker 1>where the two men will meet, and what they'll immediately

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<v Speaker 1>do is and they both have a red carpet that

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<v Speaker 1>they're walking on, and they will then have a private

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<v Speaker 1>meeting as I understand that, it'll be the two of

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<v Speaker 1>them alone, probably with interpreters, although Putin does speak English,

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<v Speaker 1>is my understanding, and then they will have a series

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<v Speaker 1>of breakout meetings that will take us to about I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, anywhere between you know, five six o'clock. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to have at some point in between, they're

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<v Speaker 1>expected to have lunch together. And when all is said

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<v Speaker 1>and done, and this is maybe scheduled for about seven

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<v Speaker 1>point thirty tonight this evening, they would have a joint

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<v Speaker 1>press conference. We don't know for sure. I mean again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to be fluid as well. And at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>immediately after that press conference, I will go up live.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be a little few minutes earlier before nine,

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<v Speaker 1>so you might want to, you know, be watching like

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<v Speaker 1>a five or eight fifty. I will have the first

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<v Speaker 1>exclusive sit down interview with President Trump to find out

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<v Speaker 1>how this whole day works out. You could see President Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>He's greeting the troops. He's clapping to some group of

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<v Speaker 1>people I'm not sure who. Probably I would assume the troops.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the great honor opportunity to meet a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that are here serving our country at Joint

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<v Speaker 1>Base Almendroth Richardson. There's the handshake and a flyover with

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<v Speaker 1>what sounds like some fighter jet, and they're smiling, looks friendly,

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<v Speaker 1>shaking hands, walking down the red carpet together. And President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is significantly taller than Vladimir Putin. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that means anything. I remember one time I was

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<v Speaker 1>mad at President Trump over something that was during his

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<v Speaker 1>first campaign. I said, all just sit down. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as he sat down, I stood up because I did

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<v Speaker 1>because I wanted to get as a tension. I was

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<v Speaker 1>telling them something that was I felt was important in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. But optics matter. If I were to give

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<v Speaker 1>you an overall, if you read the room, body language

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<v Speaker 1>very relaxed, both sides, a lot of smiles, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not a bad indication. They they add, it's it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>on a delay, which just so you know the feed

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<v Speaker 1>because they both looked up in the air. They're now standing.

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<v Speaker 1>It says Alaska twenty twenty five. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>they're f thirty fives behind them. I don't it is

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<v Speaker 1>f thirty fives, Okay, there are two f thirty fives

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<v Speaker 1>behind them. And last time, I don't know. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>see the shot where we had the the a wax

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<v Speaker 1>plane behind me? How cool was that on TV? And

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<v Speaker 1>it says Alaska twenty twenty five. And I believe ones

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<v Speaker 1>is one American. No, they're both. They're all American. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all American. I met kids that were that are surving

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<v Speaker 1>here from all over the country. All right, So they

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<v Speaker 1>had the quick photo op. The Beast is there, that

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<v Speaker 1>is the presidential limousine, and it looks like Vladimir is

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<v Speaker 1>getting inside the Beast. When I was in the Ghost States,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to go in the Beast as part of

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<v Speaker 1>my you know interview and experience with President Trump. The

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<v Speaker 1>doors are thicker than anything you've ever seen in your

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<v Speaker 1>entire life. And I will not reveal secrets I may

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<v Speaker 1>or may not have learned about that. What's interesting is

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<v Speaker 1>I guess because it's I guess because it's on American terrorists.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in Alaska. That's why they're doing that. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, again all of this is orchestrated. The spray

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<v Speaker 1>is over Trump and Putin now will go into a meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>The breakout sessions will then follow up with that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure a lot of the breakout sessions will result in First,

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<v Speaker 1>let's queue you into what we discussed, and then let's

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<v Speaker 1>take it a step further in a best case scenario. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we define success here? There's so much to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about the lead up to all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some rays of hope and then there's some dose

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<v Speaker 1>of reality in the lead up to today. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we know Ukraine attacked multiple cities in Russia

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<v Speaker 1>just yesterday, and we know that the Russians had also attacked.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the Ukrainians also hit a Russian oil refinery

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<v Speaker 1>last night in air strikes, and similarly, we know that

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<v Speaker 1>the Russians have been pounding Ukraine, and so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>both sides I think doing it for some type of advantage.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they think it's some type of negotiating advantage. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know about Ukraine. Last night struck an oil

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<v Speaker 1>refinery in Russian's Samara region in an overnight attack. Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 1>forces also hit a Caspian seaport cargo vessel. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the war is ongoing, there's not a ceasefire, so both

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<v Speaker 1>sides are doing the same thing. In Alaska, it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw two contingencies. One is a bunch of leftists

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<v Speaker 1>that were protesting and another group several hundred people gathering

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<v Speaker 1>for a pro Ukraine rally here in Anchorage where the

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<v Speaker 1>president is and with hundreds of Russian soldiers. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>both sides, both Ukraine and Russia. Both sides have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they have been fighting, you know now for going on

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<v Speaker 1>three years. And if anyone would have told me Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>would still even be in the game, I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>believed it. Now, for the most part, it became a

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<v Speaker 1>proxy war between Joe Biden's administration and Russia. Now, there

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<v Speaker 1>are certain things that have happened that I think really

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<v Speaker 1>got Putin's attention. First of all, I think there is

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<v Speaker 1>a genuine relationship between the two of them. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think this is like a lot of other summits where

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<v Speaker 1>there's a predetermined outcome. I don't really see that here.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look at, for example, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the President kind of has gotten fed up with Putin

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<v Speaker 1>and him dragging his feet, and he's trying to push

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<v Speaker 1>this thing along, and he's put a lot of political

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<v Speaker 1>capital into this, I think finally said okay, fine, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be difficult and you're going to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to attack innocent women and children, we're going back. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to arm Ukraine. Although President Trump is doing it

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<v Speaker 1>differently than Joe Biden did is he's selling the weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>The second thing that I'm certain got Russia and Putin's

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<v Speaker 1>attention is the EU trade deal, where close to a

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<v Speaker 1>troph million dollars Europe is now committing to purchasing American energy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's money coming directly out of Putin's pocket. The heart

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<v Speaker 1>and soul of Russia's economy is energy. The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the European Union has been purchasing so much energy from

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<v Speaker 1>Vladimir Putin has actually worked against them because they're funding

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<v Speaker 1>his war machine in the process. Another big part of

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<v Speaker 1>this is the tariffs the President Trump put on India

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<v Speaker 1>if they continue to buy Russian oil, and when the

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<v Speaker 1>President says over and over again, there will be severe

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<v Speaker 1>consequences if Putin doesn't make a deal. Here not talking

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<v Speaker 1>about going to war with Russia. He is basically saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to do everything in his power to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>Russia from being able to sell their energy, which will

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<v Speaker 1>just devastate their economy. The last thing that I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>got Putin's attention is President Trump was able to get

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<v Speaker 1>NATO to double their commitments. So all of this is

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<v Speaker 1>happening simultaneously. As we continue our coverage, it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be an interesting day for me. I mean, the show's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a little bit more fluid than normal,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll get some expert analysis, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>for the next two hours, they're disappearing in a room

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll try to work some sources and find out, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your name and see if you know I can get

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<v Speaker 1>any indication. But Russia's paid a very dear price too.

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Free Europe had a peace out after mounting losses

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<v Speaker 1>in Ukraine, the Russian government appears to be intensifying their

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<v Speaker 1>coercive recruitment tactics. They're now having to target prisoners as

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<v Speaker 1>conscripts and ethnic minorities from remote regions, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>Central Asian migrant communities. Remember, they've also been importing fighters

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<v Speaker 1>from North Korea, and, according to testimonies collected by Radio

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<v Speaker 1>pre Europe, mail inmates and prisons and parts of Siberia

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<v Speaker 1>describe routine beating, psychological torture threats aim to force them

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<v Speaker 1>into military service. And then on the other hand, then

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<v Speaker 1>you have reports that there might be you know, President

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<v Speaker 1>Zelenski is taking guys that are over sixty years old

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<v Speaker 1>to go fight this conflict. I mean, nobody's doing great here,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's winning in this There's no winners and have been

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<v Speaker 1>no winners here. Fortune magazine pointed out Russia's coming financial

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<v Speaker 1>crunch could derail Putin's war machine. Yeah, well, okay. The

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<v Speaker 1>Kremlins oil and gas revenue, their main source of revenue,

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<v Speaker 1>tumble twenty seven percent in July from a year ago

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<v Speaker 1>to seven hundred and eighty seven point three billion rubles

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<v Speaker 1>to about nine point eight billion, or about down nine

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<v Speaker 1>point eight billion. That's a lot of money, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to fight a war, and it's probably about

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<v Speaker 1>to go down significantly more. Now, what is the endgame?

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<v Speaker 1>What it all right? More important? Let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>give you what the reality is. All right, let me

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<v Speaker 1>be very let me let me keep it real here,

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<v Speaker 1>because the best, the best case scenario coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>today would be they have a good meeting, they agree

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<v Speaker 1>to the meeting that Donald Trump has called for, and

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<v Speaker 1>adds Zelensky uh the idea that European countries that have

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<v Speaker 1>enriched Putin are trying to tell Donald Trump how to

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<v Speaker 1>negotiate as a joke to me, because they themselves have

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<v Speaker 1>compromised their own security. So if that in fact happens

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<v Speaker 1>and the and President Trump has said he wants that

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<v Speaker 1>next meeting very quickly. Okay, at that point, then what

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<v Speaker 1>are we really dealing with? Okay, Well, Putin's going to

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<v Speaker 1>retreat and he's going to go back to run. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to happen. It's going to be a very

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<v Speaker 1>complicated needle to thread that will involve land swaps. But also,

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<v Speaker 1>well Putin doesn't want to get of Ukraine, which is

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<v Speaker 1>security guarantees so they won't be a third invasion. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the point of doing this? And what you get a

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<v Speaker 1>democratic president in next time and you get another conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a win to me. All Right, I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you what the most likely outcoming scenario is here in

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<v Speaker 1>a second. Anyway, we continue. We are at Joint Base

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<v Speaker 1>Elmendorf Richardson. We're in Anchorage, Alaska. We're literally feet away

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<v Speaker 1>from where Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump are. I do

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<v Speaker 1>have the first interview with President Trump tonight, Hannity, Fox News.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope you'll tune in and watch that. That's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be very interesting. I love knowing what's going on behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes. What happened, tell me the real secret? What

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<v Speaker 1>did did Vladimir eat anything? One of the more interesting

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<v Speaker 1>things in one of the Kim Jong un summits was

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<v Speaker 1>to find out that nobody in the delegation of North

0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Korea ate a bite of food. They must have thought

0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.640
<v Speaker 1>it was poisoned. And at the time, Tucker Carlson went

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<v Speaker 1>in and started grabbing the desserts and handing them out.

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<v Speaker 1>True story. There's there's a lot happening here that I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into. I want to start with this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is not Donald Trump's fault. You look at

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<v Speaker 1>the timeline we have talked extensively about. You know, Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden couldn't even pick up a phone and call Vladimir.

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<v Speaker 1>He Vladimir, why do you have two hundred thousand troops

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<v Speaker 1>and all this military equipment on the on the border

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<v Speaker 1>with Ukraine And you know, maybe we could talk this out,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we could talk this through. And Joe Biden never

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<v Speaker 1>bothered to lift a finger. So you know, Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't care. And this is the point. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at Crimea when it was annexed in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, Hello, Instagram, how are you good to see you?

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, we here at the Sean Hannity Show

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<v Speaker 1>support David Sunflower. I prefer the ranch flavor. But this

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<v Speaker 1>all happened Crimea happened under Obama. And in the case

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<v Speaker 1>of this military build up that you know, weaponry and

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<v Speaker 1>troops along the Ukrainian border, it was so obvious. And

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<v Speaker 1>Joe's answer don't and Kamala's answer don't. What is don't mean?

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<v Speaker 1>And oh it depends if it's a minor incursion. What

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<v Speaker 1>does a minor incursion. Mean, this is madness, this is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>So because President Trump now again a lot of negotiation

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<v Speaker 1>is an art, it's not a science. And then what's

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating is is President Trump saying I'll know within two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes whether or not he's serious. Well, two minutes is

0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:45.000
<v Speaker 1>coming gone. Because where you are right here, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>literally we're not. I honestly, I'm sure I could probably

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<v Speaker 1>throw a football to whatever room they're in at Joint

0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Base Almendorff Richardson. It's a beautiful place. Wonderful people by

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<v Speaker 1>the way that work here. I I've met these young,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, soldiers from all around the country. They're just

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<v Speaker 1>phenomenal people. But because President Trump, what happened because of

0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Biden and his weakness and the minor incursion became a

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<v Speaker 1>full on, blown out war in Europe. What the end

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<v Speaker 1>result is is that Joe Biden ended up providing all

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<v Speaker 1>of the weaponry and funding it. So it evolved into

0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:29.040
<v Speaker 1>what was nothing short of a US proxy war with Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's never going to end well. And President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>has a whole different strategy, and he said to put

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<v Speaker 1>he said in the lead up to today, there will

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<v Speaker 1>be severe consequences they're going to spell out what that

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<v Speaker 1>will mean. But if you go back just a number

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<v Speaker 1>of months ago and you look at the polling data,

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<v Speaker 1>the polling data was clear Americans they want no part

0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.359
<v Speaker 1>of these forever wars and they don't think we should

0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.320
<v Speaker 1>be involved in foreign conflicts. So I got pinned by

0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:01.840
<v Speaker 1>these these Russia media people sticking cell phones in my face.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how do you even know who I am?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, you got to understand Donald Trump will

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<v Speaker 1>walk away in five minutes. Five minutes has passed, so okay,

0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.639
<v Speaker 1>he can't walk away now. But when I said that

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<v Speaker 1>to them, it was a reality. And Donald Trump, probably

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, on paper, gets the least out of

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<v Speaker 1>this deal. There's not one European leader that could possibly

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<v Speaker 1>pull this meeting off, not one, not one that would

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<v Speaker 1>even expend the political capital to try. But they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the strength to do it. But Donald Trump got

0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.879
<v Speaker 1>them to commit to more than twice of what they

0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.440
<v Speaker 1>were paying for NATO. So many nations weren't paying their

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<v Speaker 1>fair share. And Donald Trump did a trade deal with

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<v Speaker 1>Europe which resulted in a trillion dollars and committed money

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<v Speaker 1>for energies that they're going to buy from US that

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<v Speaker 1>stops funding Putin's war machine. That's a smart thing to do.

0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.560
<v Speaker 1>President Trump said to India, you keep importing Russian oil

0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.560
<v Speaker 1>at We're going to slapping you with a fifty percent

0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.600
<v Speaker 1>terror Guess what. India now has to think twice about

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not they're going to take on any more

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<v Speaker 1>Russian energy, which would not be a good idea for

0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.120
<v Speaker 1>them anyway. But in the case of Europe, it's more

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<v Speaker 1>infuriating because they're paying all this money for national defense

0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and at NATO alliance well against two against the possibility

0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:24.080
<v Speaker 1>of Vladimir Putin or hostile regimes coming in. It's insane.

0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:30.840
<v Speaker 1>But because Donald Trump has been very, very skillful in

0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.520
<v Speaker 1>making sure both sides have something to lose here. You

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<v Speaker 1>see the polls have now reversed and reversed quickly and

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<v Speaker 1>rather dramatically, and it shows sixty two percent of Americans

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<v Speaker 1>overall support sending military assistance to Ukraine. Now, one of

0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the reasons for that is that President Trump is not

0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:55.760
<v Speaker 1>giving them the equipment it is, but he is recognizing

0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that Russia's handling of this and their lack of a conscience,

0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.920
<v Speaker 1>a heart, and a soul when it comes to you know,

0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.080
<v Speaker 1>just taking out innocent women and children, which they have

0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:11.800
<v Speaker 1>been targeting, has got to stop. And that is in

0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 1>the world's best interest. It is in the world's best interest.

0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, if countries would focus more on economic partnerships

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<v Speaker 1>over you know, geopolitical conflicts, do you think, just think

0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 1>how much better off the world would be. It's like

0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:27.320
<v Speaker 1>some of these people that come up with the most

0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:32.800
<v Speaker 1>sophisticated criminal schemes, You wonder what might they accomplish if

0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:37.159
<v Speaker 1>they ever put all of that energy, all of that thought,

0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:41.800
<v Speaker 1>all of that creativity into something productive. But they don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. So the one thing that Trump wants it

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<v Speaker 1>he wants a lot of things out of this meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>And but one of the things, if you want to

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.359
<v Speaker 1>look at the big picture, what do we expect? What

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<v Speaker 1>is the realistic outcome here? I don't want to play

0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 1>games with all of you out there. Donald Trump's been

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<v Speaker 1>clear that this is a first step. Donald Trump's been

0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:08.600
<v Speaker 1>clear that if this goes well, he wants phase two

0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:12.679
<v Speaker 1>to come very quickly and expeditiously. Phase two would include

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Zelenski then, of course, but then we're talking about a ceasefire.

0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Then we're talking about an end to the hopefully the hostilities.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we're talking about a negotiated settlement. That's that would

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<v Speaker 1>be the ultimate goal. That is not what's that's not

0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:30.000
<v Speaker 1>in the cards today. President Trump's been clear that's not

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<v Speaker 1>in the cards. If you want to know what I

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<v Speaker 1>think the realistic outcome is, and maybe some of you

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<v Speaker 1>like this, maybe some of you won't like to hear

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<v Speaker 1>the reality I can. I can sit here and BSU

0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:47.520
<v Speaker 1>and tell you things that just aren't true. But the

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<v Speaker 1>reality is, if this war goes on for a protracted

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<v Speaker 1>period of time, I don't see the odds of Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>ever winning back any of the territory they currently have lost.

0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:07.760
<v Speaker 1>Ukraine is completely dependent on other countries to fight this conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>The Russians are not. If the Russians find other avenues

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:16.280
<v Speaker 1>where they can sell their oil, they will be able

0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:19.760
<v Speaker 1>to continue to fund their war machine. Now do I

0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:23.240
<v Speaker 1>think they are foolish enough to want the entire land

0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:27.280
<v Speaker 1>mass of Ukraine and need an occupying force, Because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it would take, and it would they would have

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:35.359
<v Speaker 1>their own problems in terms of they would constantly Russian

0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 1>soldiers would constantly be killed constantly. You'd be a resistance

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<v Speaker 1>that would go on for decades and decades and decades.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's what it is. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Putin would argue that the Dambas region eighty percent Russian

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.480
<v Speaker 1>national if you gave people a vote, they would go

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<v Speaker 1>with Russia. So what is the likely outcome? And again,

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<v Speaker 1>don't shoot the messenger. I'm giving you just a straight

0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 1>up analysis on this. I would imagine a landswap is

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<v Speaker 1>probably going to be part of it. What does that mean?

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 1>It probably means at this point because Ukraine has lost

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the territory in a war, right or wrong, historical precedents, whatever,

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:21.919
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, and that's going to be what Russia wants.

0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Now what does Ukraine want? Ukraine is going to want security,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the way, they will. There's no deal worth

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:34.919
<v Speaker 1>having for Ukraine if now they're not going to have

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>NATO security, that's a non starter. But they're going to

0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:43.439
<v Speaker 1>want security guarantees and other European leaders Macron for example,

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 1>said Trump was supportive of continued security guarantees for Ukraine.

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Putin's not going to like that part of the equation.

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<v Speaker 1>Putin would like to have the ability or the option

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<v Speaker 1>to go back in any time. He damn well pleases,

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and that would mean the possibility of a third invasion,

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<v Speaker 1>And what's the point of even starting this process if

0:24:02.920 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 1>that's going to be the end result. Bad bad idea,

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:09.320
<v Speaker 1>bad consequence. So, you know, the hope is coming out

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.560
<v Speaker 1>of today is that Vladimir comes in with the right

0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>attitude and he understands that he's not going to get

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 1>everything he wants. The President has spoken to Zolensky many,

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<v Speaker 1>many times. The President is now funding uh Zolensky in

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:28.400
<v Speaker 1>terms of you know, it's American weaponry that he's buying

0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that is keeping him in the game. You know. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh, you know one other thing I think strategically

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:37.720
<v Speaker 1>for the president's very smart too, because you have the

0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, how close does does Donald Trump want China

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to Russia? And don't think that Vladimir Putin's not competitive

0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 1>with President she because he is now. Putin has praised

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Trump's sincere desire for peace and the lead up to today,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was pretty interesting comments that he made

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<v Speaker 1>late yesterday praising the US for making sincere efforts to

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<v Speaker 1>end the war between Russia and Ukraine, which is raged

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:08.239
<v Speaker 1>on now for over three years. And he said on

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>TV that the US was making, in my opinion, quite

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 1>energetic and his sincere efforts to stop the hostilities and

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>stop the crisis and reach agreements that are of interest

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to all parties involved in the conflict. It doesn't sound

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:25.199
<v Speaker 1>like somebody that is against a deal. That sounds like

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody that is recognizing that this might be my off ramp.

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:32.719
<v Speaker 1>That's why it's going to be so fascinating to interview

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.360
<v Speaker 1>President Trump tonight. I want to know what you all

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:36.919
<v Speaker 1>want to know. I want to know what goes on.

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I could be a fly on the

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 1>wall in another room at this airbase we're at, I

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 1>would love to be a fly on the wall. I'd

0:25:45.440 --> 0:25:48.200
<v Speaker 1>like to know what's really going on. You know, there's

0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 1>been talk and there's been a lot of speculation about, well,

0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>what what might this all look like? You know, US

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:58.840
<v Speaker 1>and Russia possible peace deal that would include a West

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Bank style Locke patient. I think what most people are

0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>not factoring in is probably the most the most obvious

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>answer is everything comes down to money. Everything comes down

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>to money. You know, how can they benefit financially? That's

0:26:20.680 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>what a lot of these, you know, deals end up

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>being about. In the end, they end up being about

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.679
<v Speaker 1>money and how much money they might be able to

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.280
<v Speaker 1>extract or how much, you know, does it provide what

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>they need? What are the things that they need? Now

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're making a business deal, what are the things

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>that people need in life? Fortune magazine has put pointing

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<v Speaker 1>out that Russia's, you know, fiscal crunch is that bad

0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>that it can, in the end derail Putin's war machine.

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>And it's about to get worse. And I think that's

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 1>where the severe consequences are coming in. Also, we talk

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot about the price that Ukraine has paid militarily.

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.240
<v Speaker 1>The Russians have paid a price militarily. They paid a

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 1>huge price militarily. And you know, but you know what

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>form manifestation this takes on. I don't know. I just

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>know that it really is nobody else in the world

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 1>that's capable of pulling this off than Donald Trump. You know,

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Trump said his game plan. He said, well, it's kind

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 1>of like chess. He's not wrong. And if it's chess,

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>that means that Donald Trump has ten steps ahead, because

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.479
<v Speaker 1>it's not checkers. And this is not for the faint hearted.

0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>And if you read the Art of the Deal, go

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 1>back to Trump in his early career He's always said

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>to be a good businessman, you have to be able

0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>to walk away from any deal up until the last seconds.

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 1>So the last words that Trump said publicly on the

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 1>way to this summit was that he threatened very severe

0:27:52.040 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>consequences if Russia doesn't agree to end this war. Couple

0:27:56.400 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 1>that with what Treasury Secretary Scott Besson said, which was

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 1>the warning that tariffs on any major purchaser of Russian

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<v Speaker 1>oil could go through the roof if in fact these

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<v Speaker 1>talks fail. So what did I just say? I said

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<v Speaker 1>it all comes down to money, didn't I? In the end,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always going to come down to money, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, at some point, do I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>the issue of civilian casualties in Ukraine that Vladimir Putin's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be motivated by a don't you know? Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>is now targeting Russian oil facilities with drawn attacks. They

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<v Speaker 1>did it last night, you know. Ukrainian media reported that

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<v Speaker 1>two days ago, nine hundred and ninety Russian soldiers were

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<v Speaker 1>killed or wounded in the last thirty six hours, not

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<v Speaker 1>that long, and the Russian economy. Bloomberg got an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>piece about this is faltering under the strain and now

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump may have taken away too of Putin's biggest

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<v Speaker 1>energy company customers, the European Union and India if India

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<v Speaker 1>goes along with the tariffs, and they might not have

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<v Speaker 1>any choice because India needs access to American markets just

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<v Speaker 1>like China does, and China is another big customer. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's interesting. The Telegram had an interesting article. Trump

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<v Speaker 1>to offer Putin minerals. That's that's already kind of been

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<v Speaker 1>part of the deal. Eight nine. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of the program, we continue our coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>We're live President Trump and Vladimir Putin. The summit is

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<v Speaker 1>officially underway. We are at Joint Base Elmendorf, Richardson. They

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<v Speaker 1>will have not only a lunch, a meeting and then

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<v Speaker 1>breakout sessions and then we expect a joint presser and

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<v Speaker 1>then the most important part of the day for President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is seeing me. What just saying