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Speaker 1: God bless football, Billy Gill, God bless football, Mike, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: God blessed football, God blessed football.

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Speaker 2: It's over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well not yet, I mean sort of it is over.

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Speaker 2: But well, what do you mean sort of USFL Is

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Speaker 2: that what you're no?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no no no.

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Speaker 4: No no no no no.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, we have we have a game

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Speaker 3: that happened. We got to recap the game. We have

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Speaker 3: some guests on today. We have one guess that I'm

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Speaker 3: really like interested in talking to, and we have gold

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Speaker 3: Golick Yeah and Golick.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well who's the guest you're interested in talking to? If

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Speaker 1: it's not Golick, Well, so we'll recap the game of Golick.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's recapping the games, right, And then we have an

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Speaker 3: expert in ads and commercials coming on to tell us

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Speaker 3: about Super Bowl commercials. Which ones are good, which ones weren't?

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Speaker 3: Are they worth it? Are they not? Which one's the best?

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Speaker 3: And I feel like stuguts, maybe we can put together

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Speaker 3: the perfect commercial with the commercial expert. What do you

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Speaker 3: think they might.

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Speaker 6: Need our help? They weren't great this year.

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Speaker 1: No, they weren't great at commercial for what the ability

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Speaker 1: what do you want to put it, like for god

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Speaker 3: Or I mean we could never afford a commercial. Let's

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Speaker 3: not pretend. So when's the last time, like when's the

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Speaker 3: last time that you guys remember there being like a

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Speaker 3: it just because I'm getting older that I just think

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Speaker 3: like wonder in the world where I'm like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: that's so funnier, Oh my god, that's so great because

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Speaker 3: I'm just like old now and have like responsibilities. So

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Speaker 3: didn't like it? Or are they just not good?

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Speaker 2: I think they're just not good? And you're not old, Bill,

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Speaker 3: But I'm definitely older, Like I feel like you know,

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Speaker 1: I know you're older, but you're not old, like you're

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Speaker 1: thirty something man, Like you're in the wheelhouse.

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Speaker 2: You're in the.

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Speaker 1: Demographics still, I don't know, it's a'sull twenty five to

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Speaker 3: I haven't been super impressed with commercials for the Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl lately in the past couple of years. I don't

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Speaker 3: I can't think of the last one that I was like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, guys, I've never been into them.

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Speaker 1: I've always yeah, I've never been into them. I feel

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Speaker 1: like the end is kind of It's never been something

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Speaker 2: But I've just never really have.

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Speaker 1: Been into Super Bowl commercials.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I bet you would.

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Speaker 2: What was that?

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Speaker 6: I'll bet if you could bet on them you would.

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Speaker 1: Well, that would certainly enhance my interest in that, Like

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Speaker 1: just like sports. I mean, listen, they made like Betty

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Speaker 2: How did we gamble on commercials? What do we do?

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Speaker 1: We should do that. That's a good idea. Should figure

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Speaker 2: I like that?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how'd you guys enjoy your Super Bowl? Sunday

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Speaker 1: Billy Attire from Arizona. We were out the we were

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Speaker 3: But I feel like I didn't miss much. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't have like wild like Super Bowl parties anymore

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Speaker 3: or anything like that, not that I ever did, but.

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Speaker 1: No, I like a good night, good night at home

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Speaker 1: Like I had a friend who had a party that

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Speaker 1: One that has valet drivers and a djet love my

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Speaker 2: I'm certainly had a blast. Just ain't for me? Is

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Speaker 2: that fair, Mike?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Yeah. The only people that are allowed over my house

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Speaker 5: Right, that's pretty much it, right.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Piece, Just give me some silence, man, Let me focus

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Speaker 3: You know, the valet drivers at a party seems like

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Speaker 3: we're accommodating you like valet drivers. This is great, but

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Speaker 3: it's like then I have to wait like an hour

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Speaker 3: like I could just walk to my car. I could

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Speaker 1: You know, yes, but also not you've invited too many people,

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Speaker 1: Like you need a valet driver, and not everyone could

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Speaker 6: Not only that, if I pull up and I didn't

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Speaker 6: I'm like, oh man, I don't carry any cash.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to be right.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to be the ass that doesn't have

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Speaker 3: I'm not joking, like that's happened. I've been to doctors

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Speaker 3: I don't need this stress in my life, Like I

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: You know what I end up doing and I shouldn't

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Speaker 2: That's a heavy play.

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Speaker 1: You could just be honest and be like, I had

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Speaker 3: Like being put in that spot in my doctor, I'm

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Speaker 6: I don't like it, and I don't and I.

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Speaker 2: Understand, and I just don't like being honest.

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Speaker 1: So it's like we'll break down the game with Golick

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Speaker 1: here coming up. Mike ye, what was uh? What was

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: Did you uh? Did you enjoy it?

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Speaker 6: It was, yeah, it was good food and it was

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Speaker 6: a couple of people that know how to watch football

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Speaker 1: Do we have an update, any sort of update, Aaron Rodgers?

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Speaker 1: At just four nights of darkness tonight, I'm told anything

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Speaker 1: Who the Jets are going to land at quarterback? They

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Speaker 6: I mean, they've officially started planning for Plan B. They

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Speaker 1: All right, or Derek Carr Right, doesn't he have some

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Speaker 1: That wait, so what happens if they don't get Rogers?

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Speaker 2: Is Hacket gone?

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Speaker 2: What happens there?

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Speaker 6: I don't know. We got to get a run game

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Speaker 1: This is so Jets, Billy, where I'm telling you, unless

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Speaker 2: So the Jets are getting guys.

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Speaker 1: That know all the free agent quarterbacks and then they'll

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Speaker 1: have to fire the guy, you know, Like if they

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Speaker 1: don't get Tannehill, this guy's going to be out of here, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Like that's it, Ryan Tannehill. I don't want Ryan Tannehill.

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Speaker 1: I don't I want Derek Carr or I want Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 1: preferably Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Second would be Derek Carr.

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Speaker 1: Would you want Tannehill Mikey over Zach Wilson and what

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Speaker 6: Yes? Yes, yes, over Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 6: He's probably fourth on my list of guys. Realistically they

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Speaker 2: All right, Uh God, I hate our organization right right,

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Speaker 2: we can't. We just can't sign people on our own merit.

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Speaker 1: We have to get people that will bound for us

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Speaker 5: They're like that.

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Speaker 3: I like you, guys, I hope that you get Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Is he said for an additional two nights? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Will he got it figured it out? I'm good here,

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Speaker 6: I don't know. How will he know it's day two?

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Speaker 6: Yah's got to come get him.

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Speaker 3: It seems like absolutely like four days. It seems like

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Speaker 1: Things never happened this easily, and good things like this

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Speaker 1: Holy shitta, Kim, I'm cursing. I'm sorry, Bill, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry for taking out forty years of misery on him.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm certain Tannahill would maybe be the best quarterback we've

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Speaker 1: Crack top ten Broadway Joe, Broadway Jen is a crack

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Speaker 2: That's taking to take out way too far.

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Speaker 6: Mike.

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Speaker 2: You can't need ten quarterbacks better than Joe Namath. I

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Speaker 2: dare you do it right now? Len Foley, Yeah, you've

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Speaker 2: We loved that. I draw the line of Clemens.

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Speaker 1: Clemens was not there than show name all the other

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Speaker 5: Let's get to.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to Mike Golick. He was on the sidelines

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Speaker 1: the field, which was, as I'm sorry for cursing, Bill

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Speaker 2: Okay, Golic was right there. He was on that field.

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Speaker 1: That gives an update on that, and then I love

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Speaker 2: You know what you get on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: You get all the inside chatter, conversations, you get to

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Bill, Yeah, inside, I didn't vote.

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Speaker 7: Greg mclron, damn it. I'd ask how your private jet was,

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Speaker 7: but it was private jet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was good.

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Speaker 3: I feel like, and this is gonna sound weird, Stutts,

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Speaker 5: You would.

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Speaker 1: You would enjoy. You would enjoy the private jet I

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Speaker 1: And you would enjoy not having to get your bags

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Speaker 2: You enjoy all of it built every single second.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean not having to get your bags after?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: The bags just you know, they have transportation set up

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So you had the car, no baggage.

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Speaker 3: Why I mean, might I take all my stuff carry

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Speaker 2: All right? So well here they carry it on for you.

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Speaker 3: I can carry things.

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Speaker 1: I can carry things too. I've done it many a time,

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Speaker 2: Billy.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to go through security, no TSA, nothing,

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Speaker 2: But before you show up, there's.

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Speaker 2: Food, and it's good food. And you can bring as

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Speaker 3: You got from Arizona to New York in three and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we's not the left.

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Speaker 3: I had a connecting flight that I almost missed because

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to hear that you could have he should yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that would have worked for you.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I flew three and a half hours I

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Speaker 3: That's like seven hours when you'd combine the two.

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Speaker 2: How long did it take you? It took me.

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Speaker 3: I took off at like four fifty ish and then

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Speaker 3: I landed at like twelve forty five more or less so,

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Speaker 3: and then we stayed.

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Speaker 2: In Syracuse with me.

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Speaker 3: You know, No, I'm good. I like my family too.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to see them.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to see my family.

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Speaker 5: That's nice.

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Speaker 2: You don't want to see my family.

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Speaker 6: Not really, Mike. That would have been a good one

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Speaker 5: It would have been a good one.

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Speaker 6: For the blanket.

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Speaker 8: Oh, it helps my look, I understand.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you guys need a god blessed football XFL correspondent,

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Speaker 1: I would like to submit my resume.

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Speaker 5: That's right, juju.

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Speaker 2: The job is yours. Okay, okay boom.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it pays nothing to get no expensive. Yeah, it

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Speaker 8: But we will use you all the time. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 8: i'd like you on call twenty four seven. Where are

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Speaker 8: you going today, Golic?

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Speaker 5: I am golfing over Scottsdale National.

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Speaker 2: Really, Oh look at you with who.

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Speaker 8: One Darius Rutger. Oh okay, I'm about to lose some

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Speaker 8: money to him.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's your handicap?

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Speaker 5: May index thirteen. I think, well, what's his way better

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Speaker 2: He should be giving you like a shot a hole that.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, no he does. He gives me that. But

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Speaker 1: Now, are you doing like a sponsored event here? I

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Speaker 5: No, No, no, he should be.

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Speaker 2: He should be getting paid.

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Speaker 8: This is just a wind down from the week of work,

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Speaker 5: He was here for the week, and he just texted

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Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, stadium of course. Uh no, no, no, we're going

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Speaker 2: Big time. Be nice. If Darius came on the show

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Speaker 2: once in a while, Mike, well.

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Speaker 8: We said if the if the Dolphins were doing anything,

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Speaker 1: They were doing things all season we asked you to

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Speaker 3: We said, if they made the playoffs, get them.

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Speaker 5: We said, make the playoffs because you don't want to.

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Speaker 5: You know, you gotta you gotta hit it right with him.

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Speaker 8: Get him on for a big moment. That's just a

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Speaker 8: regular season. We made the play playoffs, Get him on.

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Speaker 8: They made they play playoffs.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but they weren't. They were never going to be.

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Speaker 2: They almost won that game.

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Speaker 5: I mean, whatever, what ridiculous. I'm slowly building up to

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Speaker 8: And what happened to Roger Goodell last week? I mean

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Speaker 2: I said, how does that help us? Though?

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Speaker 3: How was your second Super Bowl ever?

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Speaker 2: Mike?

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Speaker 5: It was great?

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Speaker 8: I you know what I I I'd rather be in

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Speaker 5: But being on the sideline, being right there by everything.

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Speaker 8: And literally listening to the conversations when players come off

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Speaker 8: the field, like when Jalen Hurts fumbled the ball. You

448
00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 8: know what's going on on the sideline, you know, what's

449
00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,080
Speaker 8: the talk and for injuries and just being right there

450
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,679
Speaker 8: to see everything is pretty cool. The part that was

451
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Speaker 8: different for me the first time I did it last

452
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 8: year is running on the field when it ends trying

453
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Speaker 8: to grab players for interviews, you know, because I put

454
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Speaker 8: myself on the player's position to be like, I don't

455
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Speaker 8: want to talk to anybody now.

456
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Speaker 5: I want to celebrate, you know, and you're trying to

457
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Speaker 5: grab guys.

458
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Speaker 2: But you have to do my job, right, Yeah.

459
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Speaker 8: So I talked to Creed Humphrey, who, you know the

460
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,680
Speaker 8: old line was the star of stars of this game,

461
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,560
Speaker 8: you know, one of because they held Philadelphia sacklists in

462
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 8: this one. So he was good to talk to. So

463
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Speaker 8: and then I always I always go interview always second year,

464
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Speaker 8: I think I then go into a room and review

465
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Speaker 8: the losing coach. So I talked to Nick Sirianni for

466
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Speaker 8: a bit.

467
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Speaker 2: That was he after the game.

468
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Speaker 8: You know what, he was actually still really good. I

469
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 8: mean he was really thoughtful with his answers. And you know,

470
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Speaker 8: the year before I did Zach Taylor, who was very

471
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Speaker 8: good as well. But Nick got into feelings a little

472
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Speaker 8: more about what they were shooting for and such and

473
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Speaker 8: what he told the team, you know, and he said, listen,

474
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Speaker 8: only one team can win this, and we're unbelievably disappointed,

475
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Speaker 8: but you know, you build on it.

476
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Speaker 5: He said all the right things. But dude was really

477
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Speaker 5: emotional before the game.

478
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Speaker 8: If everybody saw he's crying during the national anthem, which

479
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 8: was phenomenal, by the way, phenomenal. Chris Stapleton was just crushed.

480
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Speaker 8: Fantastic and and God bless America. Was that Babyface? He

481
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 8: was really good as well. Yeah, just a fantastic voice,

482
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Speaker 8: both of them. The Rihanna halftime was the show was

483
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Speaker 8: really good. I had a hard time understanding with the

484
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Speaker 8: acoustics because they had so many speakers and everything out there.

485
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Speaker 5: It was just blaring so much.

486
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Speaker 8: It was hard to under what was like on TV,

487
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 8: but it was hard to degree.

488
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she digreat it was yeah.

489
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Speaker 8: Oh, the show looked spectacular. I just it was just

490
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 8: so loud. You just couldn't make out.

491
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Speaker 5: A lot of it.

492
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Speaker 1: Uh, Mike, if you wouldn't mine take us there. Like

493
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Speaker 1: when the Jalen Hurts fumble happened. You're on the sideline there,

494
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Speaker 1: You're listening to that conversation.

495
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Speaker 8: What are they saying? So it was amazing. That's the

496
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 8: thing stude. There was no conversation. Nobody went near him,

497
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Speaker 8: and it wasn't like we're not going near you were

498
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 8: mad at you. It's just like, hey, it happened, but

499
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 8: we know, you know, you're the main part of us

500
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Speaker 8: getting back in this game or winning this game.

501
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Speaker 5: We're gonna you're gonna have to be the man. It

502
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Speaker 5: was like, nothing happened, you know that.

503
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Speaker 8: That and then he walked over to the old line

504
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 8: because I was standing right there and was just like, hey,

505
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 8: my bad and my lot of the the right guard

506
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Speaker 8: who had jumped off side on the short yard is play,

507
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 8: you know before that they had they they chatted a

508
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 8: little bit about both their mistakes, but that was the thing.

509
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Speaker 8: Everybody remained very calm and cool about it, like, Okay,

510
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 8: that was a bad mistake, but you know, we'll make

511
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Speaker 8: up for it.

512
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Speaker 5: And boy boy, what a game, especially the second half.

513
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Speaker 2: Mike.

514
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Speaker 1: What's that like for a team to have a quarterback

515
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Speaker 1: like that? Because there were really no losers last night,

516
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: which was which is astonishing when you consider we're always

517
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Speaker 1: looking to blame someone for something after these games, and

518
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: perhaps you could blame the referee for a ticky tac

519
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: call at the end of the game, and I think

520
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Speaker 1: that's what people are doing, or perhaps there's some criticism

521
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: of the NFL in the field and how slippery the

522
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: field was at the game. But you had both quarterbacks

523
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 1: pitched nearly perfect games, you know, and so the Hurts

524
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Speaker 1: fumble was a bad mistake.

525
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Speaker 2: But what does that do for a team.

526
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Speaker 1: When you have a quarterback who was that kind of

527
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Speaker 1: confidence where it's like, hey, I made a mistake. Sorry,

528
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Speaker 1: let's not talk about it, let's move on. He follows

529
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Speaker 1: that mistake up with a touchdown, you know.

530
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think that's why nobody said anything

531
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Speaker 8: to him. Nobody went over there and say, keep your

532
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Speaker 8: head up, it's cool. You know, he was fine. I'm

533
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 8: sure he was pissed at himself, but I mean, mentally

534
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 8: he was fine. And and I hate to, you know,

535
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 8: go against what you said when you say there were

536
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Speaker 8: no losers.

537
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were just asked some of the Eagles.

538
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 8: I mean, they were devastated, you know, they at ten

539
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 8: point eight at halftime, and amazingly enough, the comeback for

540
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Speaker 8: Kansas City came by running the ball in the second half,

541
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Speaker 8: something that the Eagles normally do incredibly well. They just

542
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 8: start leaning on you with that run and wearing you down.

543
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Speaker 8: And it was Kansas City running the ball well, which

544
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Speaker 8: so much help the passing game with Mahomes and the

545
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Speaker 8: play action because Pacheco was running.

546
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Speaker 5: Really well, he's such a hard runner.

547
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Speaker 8: Checko ended up averaging over five yards of carry and

548
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 8: that was really what what got them going, was the

549
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Speaker 8: fact that they could run the ball and that offensive

550
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 8: line pitched a shutout to the Eagles pass rush that

551
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,959
Speaker 8: had what seventy eight seventy nine sacks including playoffs, and

552
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Speaker 8: I attributed it to three things. First and four almost

553
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 8: you have to give credit to the old line. Wiley

554
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 8: played a hell of a game at right tackle against

555
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Speaker 8: the sond Reddick, but they all did to get goose eggs.

556
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Speaker 8: Second is the fact that Mahomes was still able to escape.

557
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Speaker 8: And Third, and you know, again this is just it's

558
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 8: a reason, it's not an excuse. There was a lot

559
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 8: of slipping going on in the field on both sides,

560
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 8: both sides now, so it wasn't just and the sacks,

561
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Speaker 8: the two sacks the Chiefs got, because remember they were

562
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Speaker 8: second in the league in sacks at the end of

563
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Speaker 8: the regular season with fifty five to Phillies seventy and

564
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Speaker 8: the sacks were just were Jalen Hurts running out of

565
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Speaker 8: the pocket and running out of bounds, but because it

566
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Speaker 8: was a zero or zero yard gain, it's considered a

567
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Speaker 8: sack whoever ran them out of bounds.

568
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Speaker 5: Those were the two sacks.

569
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Speaker 8: So even Kansas City, which was second in sacks, wasn't

570
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Speaker 8: getting to Jalen in the pocket. Though you know, all honesty,

571
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Speaker 8: they were putting on better pressure than the Phillies D

572
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Speaker 8: line in that. But it was a shame about the

573
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Speaker 8: field because I was right right next to CJ. Gardner Johnson,

574
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Speaker 8: the safety for the Eagles, during warm up, and he

575
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 8: was making some cuts and I mean, Stu, he kicked

576
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 8: up a divot that any golfer would be proud.

577
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Speaker 2: Of before before the game.

578
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Speaker 8: This is in warm up, and I mean I'm literally

579
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Speaker 8: two feet away from it. He's walking back to it.

580
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Speaker 8: He looks at me, and I look at him, and

581
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Speaker 8: he's like wow, and he's signaled to one of the

582
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Speaker 8: one of the guys on the field, go get me

583
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Speaker 8: in my different set of cleats.

584
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Speaker 5: So he changed cleats in pregame. Others went in and

585
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 5: changed cleats before.

586
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Speaker 8: They came back out for the game, but it was

587
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,479
Speaker 8: still it was still slippage. And remember this is a

588
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Speaker 8: field that gets grows outside and then gets pushed into

589
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Speaker 8: the stadium in mass I mean it just gets pushed

590
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 8: one hundred yards, one hundred and ten yards gets pushed in.

591
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Speaker 8: So I think there's the wonder as it's growing outside,

592
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Speaker 8: our roots able to set deepen and enough to where

593
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Speaker 8: the grass isn't coming up.

594
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Speaker 5: And I don't know what the field looked like on TV,

595
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Speaker 5: but as.

596
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Speaker 8: I said on air, I said, down here on the field,

597
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 8: it looks like I played an entire round to golf

598
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Speaker 8: and never replaced one.

599
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Speaker 5: Didvot?

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what it looked like, right. It looked

601
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Speaker 1: great on TV. I think that's part of the problem.

602
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Speaker 1: People were criticizing it because the field looks so great

603
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: on TV. It's not until the announcers started talking about

604
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Speaker 1: it to where it became an issue. But you're saying

605
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: this was a pregame conversation.

606
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 8: Pregame conversation many of the players were having yes and

607
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 8: both teams were complaining about it. I mean there were

608
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 8: plays were right off the ball. The d linemen were

609
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 8: slipping and falling down on a pass rush. You know

610
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Speaker 8: so that that negates everything it was. It was wild.

611
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Speaker 8: And I actually talked to George Tooma. For those that

612
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Speaker 8: don't know George Thoma, google George Thoma. George Toma handles

613
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Speaker 8: the field. He handled the fields the groundskeeper, and he

614
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 8: has a sweatshirt that says the Sodfather.

615
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Speaker 2: It's the best.

616
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Speaker 8: He's handled him for every Super Bowl. And I was

617
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Speaker 8: talking to him. He's ninety four, guys. After the game,

618
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 8: I'm sitting ready to get waiting to do my last

619
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Speaker 8: hit on radio. George Tooma ninety four, walking with the

620
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 8: Caine is picking up trash on the sideline. I love him,

621
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 8: and so I went over and started talking to him.

622
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 8: He first started working on fields. It was in Wolfsbar,

623
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 8: Pennsylvania minor league baseball team. He was thirteen years old

624
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 8: when he first started working on fields, and then it

625
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 8: went all the way through. This was his last Super Bowl,

626
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 8: in his last game, and I know people are ripping

627
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 8: the field, not his fault. I mean they grew what

628
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 8: they grew. He doesn't grow it, and the roots can

629
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 8: only set so much in this thing.

630
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 5: But it was it was a shame that there was

631
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 5: the slipping the way it was.

632
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Speaker 1: So the Sodfather was doing his job right up until

633
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: the last moment.

634
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 8: Real, this dude's using his gain to pull out empty

635
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 8: bottles from under the bench at ninety.

636
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Speaker 3: Four years old.

637
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 5: This man's a legend and he was picking up trash.

638
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 1: Mikey, A, can we get to on plays? I want

639
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: him on God Bless football with Michael.

640
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Speaker 5: He's unreal. Yeah, let me tell you what you're.

641
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 2: Gonna get, Mike.

642
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: I feel like he's dodging some criticism here. If you're

643
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: the Sodfather, you have to make sure the field is okay.

644
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I.

645
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 8: Was making the I was saying that for him. I'm

646
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 8: sure he I don't. I didn't ask him about the grass.

647
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 8: I just wanted to know about him. I mean, we

648
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 8: just have to ask him on the day of his

649
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 8: daughter's wedding.

650
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

651
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 8: So I asked him if he was gonna put I

652
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 8: asked him if he was going to pull with Tom

653
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 8: Brady and retire and then come back, and he said, no,

654
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 8: he's he's walking away for good, right.

655
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 2: Mike Ye, I get him on. Plus, Mikey, you had

656
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: a question for going here.

657
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

658
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Speaker 6: So a big thing for us going into halftime was

659
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Speaker 6: was Mahomes going to be able to come out and play?

660
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Speaker 6: They showed seeds of him on the you know, on

661
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 6: the sideline, screaming. Do you think if this isn't the

662
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 6: Super Bowl he comes back out?

663
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Speaker 5: Probably depends on what's on the game, what what you know.

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Speaker 8: If it's if you have something locked up, is it

665
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 8: early in the season, I would imagine that would have

666
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 8: a lot to do with it. If it's early in

667
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 8: the season, probably not, so you don't prolong the injury.

668
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 5: But in this case, again, he played on it.

669
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 8: I mean, as I said before that game, anybody who

670
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 8: says there one hundred percent, uh, showed me someone who

671
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 8: says that, I'll tell you someone who.

672
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 5: Hasn't played a lot all year. Nobody is.

673
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 8: But it's obviously the most important position out there, and

674
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 8: we're all wondering how he was going to come out

675
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 8: in the second half. You had extra time, probably get

676
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 8: maybe more IV in. Whether it was a cortosolo steroid,

677
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 8: something that was kind of an anti inflammatory type thing.

678
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 8: Did he take a shot? Now, I don't know if

679
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 8: he would. So here's the fear. Listen and I'm I'm

680
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 8: I took a shot in any part of the body

681
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 8: I could to play, and I've no doubt most people would. Why,

682
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 8: I'm not sure. Maybe they did it before the game,

683
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,239
Speaker 8: I don't know, but why. I'm not sure if they

684
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 8: would do it at halftime, because it's a high ankle spring.

685
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 8: Because you go low ankle, you could tend to you know,

686
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 8: numb your foot and then you're screwed. I'm not sure

687
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 8: what kind of chance they would want to take at halftime.

688
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 8: And again I don't know any of this, to try

689
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 8: and shoot it at halftime and run the risk of

690
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 8: it numbing his foot, because then, I mean, you are screwed.

691
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 8: Just think of having a numb foot and you're trying

692
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 8: to run around, run around. So I don't know if

693
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 8: they did it at halftime or not. I honestly do not,

694
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 8: and who knows. We'll know at some point, I'm sure.

695
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 8: But you can give ivs, and you can give things

696
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 8: that are kind of anti inflammatory to keep the swelling

697
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 8: out of it. That used to be what we did

698
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 8: all the time, getting total shots before games all the time,

699
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 8: which they don't do anymore. But you can get ivs

700
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 8: with that, and they since you have extra time at halftime,

701
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 8: I would imagine they did everything they possibly could to

702
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 8: help that out.

703
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: It was odd that he was limping when he was

704
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: walking but not when he was running.

705
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly what to say.

706
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 8: Maybe he took the needle and again, or it did

707
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 8: not hurt maybe well, I mean, or it's one of

708
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 8: those things, know when you have something and you tweak it.

709
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 8: How for that first minute it hurts like hell, and

710
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 8: then it starts to calm down. It could have been

711
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 8: something like that as well.

712
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: It could have the strangest part of your body that

713
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: you've taken that shot, like my heel.

714
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 8: Really so, I cracked my heel in practice one week

715
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 8: actually running. I was the end on field goal team

716
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 8: in Miami and we were practicing a fake field goal

717
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 8: where I ran around out at the end zone and

718
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 8: I caught the ball and I stepped real hard and

719
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 8: I cracked my heel.

720
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 5: And we went to play Cleveland that week.

721
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 8: And it was right before the game or I was

722
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 8: in a locker room before I went out for warm

723
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 8: up and I said, Doc, shoot this. He said, No,

724
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 8: go out and warm ups and see how it feels.

725
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 8: I'm like, I'm telling you it's going to need a shot.

726
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 8: He said, Well, I want you to do warm ups first.

727
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 8: I'm like, okay, fine. I walked out for warm ups

728
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 8: for five minutes, came back in. I said, hurts, like,

729
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 8: hell shoot it. He's like, okay, So you wanted.

730
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: To go straight to the side.

731
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 5: I took it in. I took it in the heel. Again.

732
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 8: It couldn't be a lot because so it didn't so

733
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 8: it didn't nail my whole foot and make my foot.

734
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 5: It was just my heel.

735
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 8: They were very good at it because when I was

736
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 8: in Miami too, I broke my tor cartilage in my

737
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 8: rib the first game of the season and ended up

738
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 8: taking a needle thirteen straight weeks before each game in

739
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 8: the in the ribs. But man, the shit works. Let

740
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 8: me tell you that if you if you do it right,

741
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 8: you know, and not what happened to Tyrod Taylor. You

742
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 8: know where they because I was getting that that shot

743
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 8: up right between my ribs, right in the air where

744
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 8: he was.

745
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: Uh huh wait, Mike, I want to make sure I

746
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: heard you correctly. There was a play for you to

747
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: be like it was a fake with you as the

748
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver.

749
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 5: Well, well, all right, I shouldn't say fake.

750
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 8: You know you're if you're the end on the field

751
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 8: goal team, you're eligible receiver. If it's a bad snap,

752
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 8: a muff snap, or something like that, they yell fire, fire, fire.

753
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 8: We won't know it until we hear fire. Then we

754
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 8: know something happened with the snap. And I have a

755
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 8: route I'm supposed to run. That's what we were practicing,

756
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 8: and you caught it in practice.

757
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 5: I caught it.

758
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 8: I caught it and hurt my heel. What an athlete

759
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 8: I know? Said, I relived my tight end days in high.

760
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: School where you get tight end, I was all stage. Yeah,

761
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: really have any great.

762
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 5: I didn't, Mike.

763
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: I didn't know this about you.

764
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 5: I had twenty some for a few hundred yards.

765
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: You know.

766
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 5: We were more running team.

767
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: A couple of right.

768
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was fun though.

769
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: I figured, like, I'm surprised you didn't play quarter now

770
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: that i'm thinking about it, because.

771
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: A lot I did.

772
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 5: Like I did play quarterbacks.

773
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 8: Did really my freshman year, I was a quarterback and

774
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 8: middle linebacker and we ran the option, so I was

775
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 8: I was running the triple option as and I was

776
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 8: the biggest player on the team.

777
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: Goli coming around the corner.

778
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. The only problem with me keeping the ball there.

779
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 8: Was never going to be a long touchdown run because

780
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 8: I was never fast enough.

781
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 5: I was always going to get caught.

782
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: What was your longest run? Do you remember?

783
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: Oh?

784
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 8: I mean it was probably twenty thirty some yards. I mean,

785
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 8: but I eventually I even know I'm going to get caught.

786
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 8: In our state playoff game in my senior year, when

787
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 8: I was a tight end, I caught a little dumb

788
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 8: pass and I was free.

789
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 5: I was running. It was like at our own twenty.

790
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 8: It started and I'm running and I see my whole

791
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 8: sideline cheering, and I'm thinking to myself, I don't know

792
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 8: why you're cheering. There's no way I'm making all the

793
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 8: way at the end zone out getting caught. Sure, sure enough,

794
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 8: I got caught.

795
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: This guy can only go twenty to thirty yards. Don't

796
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: worry about it.

797
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 5: Going to need the oxygen after that.

798
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: Do you remember your longest pass play? I macinated here.

799
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 8: I honestly I do remember, though, passing in in as

800
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 8: a freshman, being in the pocket and getting blindsided and

801
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 8: knowing what it feels like to have all the air

802
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 8: leave your body. At one point, I got hit so

803
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 8: hard from the blind side my body just snapped and

804
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 8: I was just laying on the ground going. I mean,

805
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 8: I couldn't talk. All the air was out of my body,

806
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 8: and I'm like, that really hurt.

807
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: Was that the moment you decided I want to do

808
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: that to somebody?

809
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 6: Yeah?

810
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 5: I said, I really would rather hit somebody to get it.

811
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 5: Much much better be in the hammer than the nail.

812
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: Mike, when I met by, You know, nobody lost less

813
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: and obviously the Eagles lost, and they'll be criticism, and

814
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it's going towards the referees.

815
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: It's rare where you have a game and you walk

816
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: away from the game, like Sirianni at Jalen Hurts.

817
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: I'm more impressed with them.

818
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: After that game, even in defeat than I was before

819
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: that game, Like Jalen Hurts was phenomenal, and Siriani, man.

820
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: He's got stones.

821
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: He goes for it on four down, any plays on

822
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: the field and you know he's going for it and

823
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, I got four downs to get ten

824
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: yards and that makes play calling a lot easier for

825
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator.

826
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you could.

827
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 8: Definitely tell by the play calls, especially on third and

828
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 8: whatever it is that when they're going to go for

829
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 8: it on fourth top. But you're right, I mean, you know,

830
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 8: Jalen coming when he came back from the shoulder, didn't

831
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 8: have a couple of good games right in the playoffs.

832
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 8: It's not like we're, oh, Jalen's back the MVP candidate.

833
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 8: He did in this one. That one throw on the

834
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 8: out route to Godard that they replayed that was just

835
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 8: over the fingertips one defender was one of the best

836
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 8: passes I've seen out of any quarterback. It was It

837
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 8: was fantastic and it was listen, this was a great game.

838
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 8: So which leads me to ask all of you, did

839
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 8: you think that was the right call?

840
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: The holding call at the end, which which.

841
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 8: Basically because of when it happened, that ended the game.

842
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: It's hard to argue when the player himself says, yeah,

843
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: it was a penalty.

844
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: Do I want it called in that spot?

845
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: No, because I want to see Jalen Hurts with the

846
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: opportunity to drive the field and bring his team back.

847
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: It's TICKI tak in that situation.

848
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: But I guess when the player lends his voice to yeah,

849
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: I was holding, it's really hard to argue that won't

850
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: stop him. In Philadelphia, though, Mike, they'll still argue even

851
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: with the player right.

852
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 8: Well, and the issue is really not so much that call,

853
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 8: because Listening not only grabbed his jersey, he then hooked

854
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 8: the hip. So I mean there were if the ref

855
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 8: was going to let the jersey grab go, he then

856
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 8: couldn't let you know, actual actually two kind of holding

857
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 8: situations happen. The issue is, and this is all players want.

858
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 8: Players want consistency. There was some tough coverage earlier in

859
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 8: the game that they were letting go that they weren't

860
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 8: throwing flags on. So that's the only point because would

861
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 8: I rather not seen the flag? Yes, do I understand

862
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 8: why it was thrown given what happened. I was, I

863
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 8: was standing right there. I understand the flag. The problem

864
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 8: was there were other physical plays in the game where

865
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 8: a flag didn't come out, And that's players want consistency.

866
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 8: If you're not going to call it, then don't call

867
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 8: it now, or if you're going to call it, then

868
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 8: call it, you know, throughout the entire game. So that

869
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 8: was really the only issue that I had, I mean,

870
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 8: in a vacuum that that was a penalty.

871
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: Right, especially when the player lends its voice to it.

872
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly exactly all arguments right, And you could see

873
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 8: him on the field, you know it was. His reaction

874
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 8: was more shit I got caught than oh that was

875
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 8: a horrible call.

876
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 5: You could tell his reaction right away.

877
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: Any issues with Listen, the Chiefs did. They stripped us

878
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: of moments. But the Chiefs did what you're supposed to

879
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: do in that spot, which is which is why Siriani

880
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: incidentally values his time out so much and was so upset.

881
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: He had to burn one earlier in the in the

882
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: half there.

883
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: But Andy Reid taking a knee in that spot, not

884
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: going for seven, basically milking the clock down to eight

885
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: seconds left and kick a field goal.

886
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: No issues there, right, I mean in the game, yeah,

887
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: well the game.

888
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 8: This seventh round pick for Rutgers Isaiah Pacheco is dirt

889
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 8: could be walked into the end zone right now.

890
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 5: Again what was talked about.

891
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 8: I'm sure it was talked about, but just to have

892
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 8: them the wherewithal to do that and no I can

893
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 8: go into the engine or at that point, Philly was like,

894
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 8: go ahead and score yea, you know, we got more

895
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 8: time on the clock. And he slides and takes that knee.

896
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 8: That was That was a fantastic, fantastic play and a

897
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 8: smart play because it is a shame.

898
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 5: I mean, you sit there because everybody's going through.

899
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 8: If they don't make that holding call, Philly burns their timeouts.

900
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 5: Casey kicks a field goal, we.

901
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 8: Were figuring out time wise, you're gonna have about a

902
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 8: buck thirty a buck thirty five down three with no timeouts.

903
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 8: I mean, that's what everybody wanted, That's what everybody felt

904
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 8: that game deserved, and we didn't get it because of

905
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 8: that call. And I think that's obviously we're looking at

906
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 8: the totality of it. That's that's the shame of it.

907
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert for people who are upset about it, I'm

908
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 1: one of them. Jalen Hurts would have drown, driven them

909
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: down the field and scored seven.

910
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: He was that kind of game.

911
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 8: Yes, well see, that's always the interesting part is do

912
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 8: you go down and play for the tie, you play

913
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 8: for the win. I believe today depends on the plays

914
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 8: leading up to it and how much yards you're gaining.

915
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 8: But I mean, we almost feel like this game deserved

916
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 8: that type of ending course considering you know, it's a

917
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 8: ten point lead at halftime for Philly. We're all going

918
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 8: off ho this is Philly's type of game. Third and

919
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 8: fourth quarter they're going to start leaning, start pounding and pounding,

920
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 8: and it was Kansas City who came out running the

921
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 8: ball and it worked effectively. But yeah, that's the ending

922
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 8: we all felt we should have got and we didn't get.

923
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: So Mahomes two super Bowls in his first five seasons,

924
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: five AFC Championship games. I might put that in perspective

925
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 1: like he's got five more to go before he gets

926
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: to Brady. But Brady has set the bar at a

927
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: ridiculous level. It used to be four with Montad and

928
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: that with seven with Tom Brady. But Mahomes first five

929
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: years is certainly having as good a start to a

930
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: career any quarterback in NFL.

931
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 5: His tree.

932
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, he's amazing. This guy.

933
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 8: Two time MVP, two times Super Bowl MVP leader in

934
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 8: passing yards two of his five years, five times in

935
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 8: the AFC Championship game. This is the first playoff game

936
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 8: I believe this is right. It's the first playoff game

937
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 8: he's worn a white jersey. I mean, they've always been

938
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 8: at home or the home team in the even in

939
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 8: the Super Bowl.

940
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 5: It's been incredible what he's done.

941
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 8: So the amazing thing is if he were to stop

942
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 8: playing football today, He's played what six years and started five,

943
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 8: he'd be a Hall of Famer.

944
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 5: There could be nobody that could tell me that he

945
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 5: wouldn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.

946
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 8: I was riding back after the game with Kurt Warner

947
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 8: and Kevin Harlan who we were doing the game with,

948
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 8: and Kurt warners, like, this guy's twenty seven. He has

949
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 8: accomplished more twenty seven before he goes. Before I even

950
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 8: made my first start in the NFL, I was older

951
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 8: than he is now, and he has accomplished all this already.

952
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 8: And that's when Kevin said, would he go in the

953
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 8: Hall of Fame right now? And Kurt said, if I'm

954
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 8: in the Hall of Fame, that guy would be in

955
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,479
Speaker 8: the Hall of Fame right now, no questions asked, he said,

956
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 8: without a doubt. So, yeah, that's the fun thing to

957
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 8: talk about, right But it's longevity.

958
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 5: He's got a lot of years left to go. And listen,

959
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 5: he's going to be around for a lot of years.

960
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 5: You got to stay healthy.

961
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 8: We know Tom only had the one major injury missing

962
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 8: the season, So what will it be for Mahomes?

963
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 5: Who runs more, who moves more? You know, because we

964
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 5: all listen.

965
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 8: Patrick burck Holmes already from an athletic and physical standpoint,

966
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 8: is one of the greatest quarterbacks ever played the game,

967
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 8: right from that standpoint. So now, because it's the quarterback position,

968
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 8: what hardware do you put along with it?

969
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 1: He's he's right up there with Jim Plunkett and Eli

970
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: Manning and some of the other guys that have two

971
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, right, yeah.

972
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean not only two Super Bowls, but getting

973
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 8: to the AC Championship games, throwing for the yards, he's

974
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 8: done MVPs all along the way. I mean, he's checking

975
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 8: all the boxes. Now, you just have to do it

976
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 8: over a Tom Brady has set such a ridiculous.

977
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 5: Bar, But you know, it gives shows like this something

978
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 5: to talk about.

979
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: I was being a dick there by comparing him to

980
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: Eli Manning and Jim punk plunk It like he's better

981
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: than that, right.

982
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 8: You know, it's so amazing that you're trying to be

983
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 8: a dick. You can't tell when you're trying to be one.

984
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 8: The natural thing. Yeah, thank you, Mike.

985
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 3: He's not the same class as Chad Henny though, Mike,

986
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 3: you can't argue that.

987
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

988
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, retiring, how about that? Yes, Wow, it's a sad

989
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 5: day right here.

990
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: And he wasn't to play, I mean with Mahomes' ankle.

991
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: He doesn'tant to, but he wasn't hold the clipboard that because.

992
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 8: Chad, Chad, Henny and John Elway both go out holding

993
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 8: the Lombardi.

994
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, right, they went out exactly the same way.

995
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 5: Now I'm being a dick. Sorry, you're rubbing.

996
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: Off You're you have a great relationship with with Andy Reid.

997
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: He was on the show on Friday You your Name

998
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: to get him and we were the only show in

999
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: America to have Andy Reid on. So now that Andy

1000
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: has his second Super Bowl, Mic, I go to personal level.

1001
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: I know how much you care about the man. Yes,

1002
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: I know how much you respect the man. So how'd

1003
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: you feel for Andy Reid after last night's game?

1004
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 5: Listen? I love the guy, very happy for him.

1005
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 8: I was still amazed in Philly, Howe, And I get

1006
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 8: how everybody loved Buddy Ryan because he was a hard

1007
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 8: nosed dude in That's Philadelphia.

1008
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 5: But we never won a playoff game.

1009
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 8: And while Andy was in Philly a long time and

1010
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 8: went to a lot of NFC championship games, you know

1011
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 8: they were happy when he got released, and I'm like,

1012
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 8: this guy just wins. You know, he just wasn't winning

1013
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 8: the big one there and now he's doing it in

1014
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 8: Kansas City. Listen, he's a Hall of Fame coach, there's

1015
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 8: absolutely zero doubt about that. And he's just a good dude.

1016
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 8: I just I love the guys. And I actually had

1017
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 8: a line about him. Do you know on that second

1018
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 8: red zone or second or third red zone touchdown, passed

1019
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 8: kind of the in and out the side of the

1020
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 8: receiver in motion and then he didn't come across the

1021
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 8: formation and went back out into the the corner of

1022
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 8: the end zone.

1023
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,879
Speaker 5: It was the easy touchdown pass.

1024
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 8: On that play, Andy Reid was coming down the sideline

1025
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 8: trying to call time out. He wanted to time out,

1026
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 8: and the ref didn't see him. The play went on

1027
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 8: and it was a touchdown, and I saw Andy doing it,

1028
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 8: and as I said on air, I said, listen, Andy.

1029
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 5: Wanted to call it time out.

1030
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 8: And I've known Andy for years, we're good friends, so

1031
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 8: I can say this.

1032
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 5: The reason he didn't get the time out is because.

1033
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 8: He can't get out of second gear getting down to

1034
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 8: the referee to call the time out, so he.

1035
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 5: Didn't get down there at a time, no timeout, touchdown. I said.

1036
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 5: He just turned around, was like, okay, cool.

1037
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean you and Bradshaw just taking shots at Andy Reid's.

1038
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 5: Mine was a fun I mean, come on, wadle on

1039
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 5: over here. I mean, what the fuck is that?

1040
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: That's Bradshaw. I'm not giving a shit anymore.

1041
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: Mike, You're right, but that wasn't cool. Yeah, but yours

1042
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: wasn't cool either.

1043
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: I think that's what you made him sound like an

1044
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 3: idiot trying to call it time out and I play

1045
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: the resulting in a touchdown and.

1046
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 8: I said my mine was I'd like to say loving.

1047
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, because you have a real relationship with him,

1048
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that Bradshaw does to be quite honesty Billy.

1049
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: He does like they're good friends. I mean you might

1050
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: can say it, you know, yeah. I don't like you

1051
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: could even say the wat a lot. You wouldn't say it,

1052
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: you would not say it, but you could say it

1053
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: to get away with it.

1054
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 2: I feel like that's.

1055
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 5: Very, very true, very true.

1056
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 8: I think if Andy, Andy would give me a bit

1057
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 8: more of a pass maybe than Terry.

1058
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: All right, we know you have to run go play golf,

1059
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: of Darius.

1060
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: You're a big you're a big shot at Scottsdale, but

1061
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: quickly as a former Eagle, you feel very very good

1062
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: about the future of your team, right Like, you don't

1063
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: feel any differently today than you did yesterday about the

1064
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: next ten years of your team with that coach, that quarterback.

1065
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 8: No, I don't not the coach in that quarterback, and

1066
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 8: we'll see about the rector because you got to keep

1067
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 8: some pieces around you obviously, right yeah. So, and the

1068
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 8: team changes every single year, even for the Super Bowl

1069
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 8: team Kansas City, they know the next when they meet No.

1070
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 8: Ta's it'll be a different team. So who do you keep?

1071
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 8: Who do you lose? The Eagles have a decent amount

1072
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 8: of free agents that they're gonna have to deal with,

1073
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 8: so I mean that's something that that that's going to

1074
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 8: come into play soon, so you have to be planning

1075
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 8: for that.

1076
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 5: I'm looking at it right now.

1077
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 8: Javon Hargrave, Fletcher Cox, Miles Sanders, Chauncey Gardner, Johnson, James

1078
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 8: Bradbury are all Marcus Apps, Soumlo, the guard.

1079
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 5: I mean, these are all free.

1080
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 8: Agents, so you know they have some work to to

1081
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 8: just like every team, and to see what kind of

1082
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 8: you'll keep your core together, and then what are you

1083
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 8: going to build around it?

1084
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: Last question, on a scale of one to ten, how

1085
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: happy is Mike Golick that everyone's getting the hell out

1086
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: of his town?

1087
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 5: I mean, oh, I'm a ten.

1088
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 8: Mike's over here doing hits for other shows he's doing.

1089
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 8: We had construction all around our house and they work

1090
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 8: quite honestly. It was the waste management open the WM

1091
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 8: that was causing more problems for me because that's ten

1092
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 8: minutes from my house. But all the road closures, you

1093
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 8: couldn't get anywhere. I'm like, thank god, but I'll tell

1094
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 8: you one thing. I'm also right by the Scottsdale Airport.

1095
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 8: The amount of private jets that were leaving today was

1096
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 8: unbelievable flying.

1097
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: I want to thank one of them for giving me

1098
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: a round.

1099
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 5: Yes, I bet you do know who. It was beautiful thing.

1100
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 2: It was somebody's beautiful thing.

1101
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: So you're happy, You're happy. Everyone's uh, get the fuck

1102
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 1: out of here, Get out of my tech.

1103
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah go hold go to your exactlaives.

1104
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 5: But let's get this back to normal. Yeah, exactly did.

1105
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: You collect all the checks? There was a point on

1106
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: Friday I walk by you. I heard you do the

1107
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: pork grime plug and then like a couple of hours later,

1108
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: I heard you fighting obesity. So did you collect? Did

1109
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: you collect everything?

1110
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 5: Not yet, but it's all all is intransit.

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00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: What a week you had, my friend?

1112
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 5: It was pretty nice. It was pretty damn nice.

1113
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: I attempted the guests, but I don't want to guess.

1114
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, don't worry. I'll just give you. Yeah, yeah,

1115
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 5: I'll keep that one mind.

1116
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: You are paying for my private jet to Syracuse, Oh

1117
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: yeah and back.

1118
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 5: Yeah. Probably You're a.

1119
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 2: Hell of a week, though, my friend was a.

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00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 5: Hell of a week. It was a lot of fun.

1121
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 8: I'm glad we all got to hang out for a

1122
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 8: bit and next year we get to do it in Vegas.

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00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: Yes we do.

1124
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 3: You were my super Bowl MVP.

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00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 8: You are there, We go and all I got to say,

1126
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 8: everybody out there, start planning now for the super Bowl

1127
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 8: two hundred and sixty four days away. Let's start planning now.

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00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: I wonder who you're aiming that at.

1129
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 5: Oh, get out of here. I'm just throwing that into

1130
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 5: the ether. Anybody who wants to grab.

1131
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: It, go ahead, same weekend every year. Absolutely, Mike, enjoy

1132
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: the round. We appreciate you coming on recapping the game

1133
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: with us, and uh, a lot of news coming up.

1134
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: We have four nights of darkness. We'll see how that goes,

1135
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk to God. We'll talk to you

1136
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: on the other side of his four nights of darkness.

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Speaker 8: Again, it sounds good, Like I said, all I get

1138
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 8: there is a good night's sleep to see.

1139
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: Mike Janine Pogey overseas and ages technology and media coverage

1140
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: as well as the publication strategy for new editorial products.

1141
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: Fair to say you're the expert on Super Bowl television commercials?

1142
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 2: Is that fair to set?

1143
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 4: I've been doing this for over a decade and no

1144
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 4: like useless facts about Super Bowl commercials that I don't

1145
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 4: think anyone really needs to know. So if you call

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00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 4: that an expert, then.

1147
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: Really really I'm interested in, like give us some interesting

1148
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: facts that none of us really know about.

1149
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 4: You know, super Bowl conversions, super Bowl commercial So I mean,

1150
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 4: if you look at this year as one like a

1151
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: fun little fact if you watch the T Mobile commercial

1152
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: with Bradley Cooper and his mom, so that commercial was

1153
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 4: not started out that way of them doing the outtakes.

1154
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 4: They kind of showed up on set and started doing

1155
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 4: a table read and it all moved into just become outtakes,

1156
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 4: and then t Mobile decided, hey, let's go with that.

1157
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 4: That sounds fun and move that way. So you know,

1158
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 4: we spend a lot of time here at ad Age

1159
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 4: kind of learning the ins and outs of the Super

1160
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 4: Bowl ads, how they're made, what goes on behind the scenes.

1161
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 4: So a lot of that kind of information.

1162
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 3: Are Super Bowl ads worth it?

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00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1164
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 4: Even Look, you're talking at a time where very few

1165
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 4: people are watching TV, all at the same time, all

1166
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 4: in the same place, live, and watching the commercials, right,

1167
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: So you know you're watching Netflix, you're watching any of

1168
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 4: these other services. For the most part, you're not watching

1169
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 4: commercials or either skipping them or don't have them all together.

1170
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 4: So it's the one place where brands can reliably still

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Speaker 4: get a massive audience all tuning in and actually caring

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Speaker 4: about the commercials.

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Speaker 6: Jimmie, you're the expert, so I'll leave it up to

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Speaker 6: whatever metric you want to use. What is the most

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00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 6: successful Super Bowl commercial of all time in euro opinion

1176
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 6: all time?

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Speaker 4: Man, you're putting me.

1178
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: On the spot since you started, or since you started

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00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 1: doing this at least.

1180
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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, look, you know you have some big

1181
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 4: ones Puppy, Muffy Baby, the Budweiser Clydesdale's like these are

1182
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 4: iconic sort of you know super Bowl ads that people remember,

1183
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: They remember the jokes, they you know, remember the animals,

1184
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: are people featured in it. And I think when you

1185
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: think back to some of those, the Darth Vader Volkswagen commercial,

1186
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 4: those are iconic storylines that you know, most people still remember.

1187
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Speaker 1: Geene, I think Billy's question is a fair one from

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Speaker 1: this regard. You're right, this is one of the few

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Speaker 1: events we have where all these people are watching at

1190
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: the exact same time. But there are so many Super

1191
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: Bowl parties going on that you have no idea how

1192
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: many people are paying attention to your commercial. So again,

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00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: it does beg the question is it worth it?

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00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 4: That's fair, But think about all of the chatter and

1195
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 4: conversation that happens in the weeks leading up to the game. Right,

1196
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 4: everyone's on social people are tweeting these commercials out They're

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00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 4: talking to the brands themselves, right, The brands are like

1198
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 4: out there conversing with consumers, They're talking to each other.

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Speaker 4: So there's so much social play that also happens. You know,

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00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 4: it's not just watching this on those thirty seconds on

1201
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 4: the screen. You're on YouTube watching the commercials, So there

1202
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: are lots of other ways to actually view these things

1203
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 4: outside of like the bar or house party that you're at.

1204
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Speaker 3: So one of the most talked about commercials this season

1205
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: was the two B one where everybody thought that they

1206
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: accidentally changed the channel? Is that an effective commercial for

1207
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 3: two be? Because I know to Be now, I don't

1208
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: know that I will go download to be or subscribe

1209
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: to to Be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anytime you get a commercial where people are actually

1211
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 4: stopping and like what was that right? And they're asking

1212
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 4: the question what is that brand? I don't know it?

1213
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: Let me go look it up, Like what just happened?

1214
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 4: I mean I turned to my husband last night like

1215
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 4: did you just sit on the remote? Like as I'm

1216
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 4: freaking out working, like what did you just do? Which

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00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 4: I think is what we are seeing a lot of

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00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 4: people did. I mean, if you remember the Coinbase ad

1219
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 4: from last year, there was a lot of people who

1220
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 4: did not know what Coinbase was, and all of a sudden,

1221
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 4: you have this QR code bouncing around on the screen.

1222
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 4: Whether or not you actively became a coinbase user and

1223
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 4: started using crypto or not you knew what Coinbase was

1224
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 4: after that, and I think that is the mark of

1225
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 4: a successful Super Bowl ad driving brand awareness.

1226
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Speaker 1: Can you get I think, I think there's a reason

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00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: I'm asking, and I also think people would be interested.

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00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: But can you give people an idea of if you

1229
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: agree to run a Super Bowl ad when that ad

1230
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: needs to be sent to the network to run on

1231
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: time for the Super Bowl.

1232
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 4: Yes, Now, there are plenty of brands that you know,

1233
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 4: the day after the Super Bowl airs, they are already

1234
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 4: planning for the next storm, right, and they're thinking about

1235
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 4: their ad by and they're thinking of concepts. There are

1236
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 4: some though that that final ad is not getting in

1237
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 4: the hands of the network until the week of. That

1238
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 4: doesn't mean they haven't showed that iterations of the ad.

1239
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that, you know, they don't know what

1240
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 4: the creative concept is like. Most of that is fully,

1241
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: you know, fleshed out, But the actual final spot there

1242
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 4: are edits being made in all of that, you know

1243
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 4: during that week.

1244
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: Of because someone on our show, the reason I asked was,

1245
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: things are moving so quickly and messages are changing so

1246
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: quickly these days that it's hard for the TV networks

1247
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: and the commercial and the ad agencies to keep up

1248
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: with social media. Is there anything to that where maybe

1249
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: you produced the spot six months ago intended for this

1250
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: year's Super Bowl, but things change so quickly now that

1251
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: the spot you created doesn't really fall in line with

1252
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: where you need to be in terms of messaging.

1253
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: Is that Is that a fair.

1254
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: Thing to absolutely, as that has become even more of

1255
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 4: a concern focus in the last couple of years, right

1256
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 4: between COVID and planning for COVID and going through that

1257
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 4: phase and then you know, just things that have come after.

1258
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 4: I think there's been a much more more of a

1259
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 4: focus on trying to plan closer to air date because

1260
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 4: you don't know what is going to happen. If you

1261
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 4: remember the Planters Mister Peanut ad from a couple of

1262
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 4: years ago where they killed off mister Peanut, Yeah, it

1263
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 4: came their social promotion came right at the time of

1264
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: the death of Kobe, and they had to go back

1265
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 4: and actually take out some scenes and change some scenes

1266
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 4: to be sensitive to everything that went on, and that

1267
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 4: was happening right up you know, until that last weekend.

1268
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 4: So yes, absolutely, that is something that all brands are definitely, like,

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00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 4: really really concerned and paying attention.

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Speaker 3: To So yesterday in the sports world, because we cover

1271
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 3: sports in football was our super Bowl obviously, but it

1272
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 3: was also your super Bowl in the ad world. So

1273
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 3: walk us through what your super Bowl is like in

1274
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 3: the ad world as opposed to the Super Bowl in

1275
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 3: the sports world.

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00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, we are starting thinking of the

1277
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: Super Bowl really in the fall, like NFL season starts,

1278
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 4: we are already like thinking about what brand bought ads

1279
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 4: in the game, who's in, who are the newcomers, you know,

1280
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 4: what trends are we going to see. But that day

1281
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 4: of like we are all on on ad age, like

1282
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 4: on slack, like talking from the morning of seeing what spots.

1283
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 4: We do view most of the ads before they air

1284
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: in the game, so we have seen typically ninety five

1285
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 4: percent of the ads even if they're not pre released.

1286
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 4: So a lot of it is writing our reviews and

1287
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 4: getting those ready and just like being prepared for any surprises.

1288
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 4: That's probably the thing that gives me the most anxiety,

1289
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 4: Like what ad is going to surprise me that like

1290
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 4: I didn't know about, or there's some change or anything

1291
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 4: like that.

1292
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: Is there like an all time bust ad that you

1293
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: can think of that like you were looking back, it's like,

1294
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 3: oh my god, there's expectations for this and it just

1295
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 3: led to nothing.

1296
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Speaker 4: I'll actually talk about one this year. I think that's

1297
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 4: every year, I think more often than not, especially in

1298
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 4: recent years, that has been the case. But I think

1299
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 4: the M and M's commercial this year really interesting one.

1300
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 4: You know, we were given this like three week stunt

1301
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 4: leading up unto the game, right, but from the beginning,

1302
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 4: first Eminem saying that they're you know, putting a hiatus

1303
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 4: on using their spokes candies. Obviously there was the conversations

1304
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 4: around the Tucker Carlson and his commentary around the spokes

1305
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 4: candies and the Eminems. Then that moved into them naming

1306
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 4: Maya Rudolph as their spokesperson, and that went into like

1307
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 4: all the places the spokes candies are now moving to

1308
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 4: who what Eminem is going to become the spokesperson for

1309
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 4: Snickers and like working for eBay and this whole social

1310
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: media stunt that they did. Then Maya Rudolph was going

1311
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 4: to change the Eminem's to clams clam filled Eminem's like

1312
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 4: all of this like stunt that they did, and then

1313
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 4: we got the commercial in the game. And if you

1314
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 4: are not working at adages or are really into the

1315
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 4: Super Bowl commercials and you are not following that stunt.

1316
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 4: You are not going to get that thirty seven add

1317
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 4: that was in the game. And I think Eminem's underestimated

1318
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 4: how many people would really be paying attention to that

1319
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 4: whole storyline and you know, really following along.

1320
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 3: So are there ads like that in the past that

1321
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 3: have been like, this is a long term play that

1322
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily culminate add the super Bowl, but maybe we

1323
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 3: drag it out like a month after the super Bowl,

1324
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 3: and this is just kind of like a centerpiece that

1325
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: brands have just bailed on because they're like, this just

1326
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 3: isn't working.

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00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 4: You know. I haven't seen too much of that where

1328
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 4: it's like the long play. It's really much more on

1329
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 4: like the couple of weeks leading up to like that

1330
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 4: social buzz. I think Planters again, going back to that

1331
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 4: Mister Peanut one that I mentioned where they killed him off,

1332
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 4: that was similar in nature, Like they killed him off

1333
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks before the game, they like resurrected

1334
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 4: him during the game, And it's really a commitment by

1335
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 4: the brand to say, like, my consumer cares about this

1336
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 4: and is going to be invested in this storyline and

1337
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 4: knows that we're doing this right like, is on social

1338
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 4: and is following, you know, our social handles and following

1339
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 4: along with this story. So they're not as frequent, But

1340
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 4: I think it's a big ask by a brand to

1341
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 4: ask consumers to follow along.

1342
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Speaker 1: These In the case of eminems, there's such an established brand.

1343
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 1: Does it really hurt them that some people that they

1344
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: missed the mark with a lot of people on that, Yeah,

1345
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I.

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00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 4: Think it just falls flat right. You're still investing all

1347
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,959
Speaker 4: of this money into something that you want to stand out,

1348
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 4: and when you know, it fell very low on the

1349
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 4: USA Today AD meter. It was like very far towards

1350
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 4: the bottom, which is unusual for an M and m's

1351
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 4: you know, Super Bowl ad. So you're still investing all

1352
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 4: this money. You want it to land right, Like. It

1353
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 4: may not hurt the brand, but it's not going to

1354
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 4: do any favors for you either.

1355
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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm not an insider. I'm not in this industry.

1356
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 3: I did not know that the USA Today had an

1357
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: AD meter, And I absolutely love that there's an AD meter.

1358
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 3: What is the AD meter and what was like at

1359
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,439
Speaker 3: the top of the AD meter?

1360
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, the AD meter is a place where people are

1361
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 4: viewing the ads can go and vote on like their favorites,

1362
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 4: and then USA Today puts out the winner, you know,

1363
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 4: on the day after. And the winner this year was

1364
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 4: the Farmer's Dog. The dog commercial that was for a

1365
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 4: dog food brand, so that that was the winner.

1366
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: If we wanted to book a spot, could we do

1367
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: it right now? Like if I wanted to place a

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01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: commercial and next year's Super Bowl, could I could I

1369
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: do that right now?

1370
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm just thinking about an idea.

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01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 4: If you gobs a million dollars you want to spend,

1372
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 4: and you know, for a.

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01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: Million dollars right now, I could call the network. I

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01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: have no idea who's calling it next year, but I could.

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01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: I could call the network right now and for a

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Speaker 1: million dollars get a thirty second ad.

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Speaker 4: No, it's seven million dollars.

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01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but have up for the early buyers. I mean,

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01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:48,919
Speaker 2: you know, would do like a.

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Speaker 4: Pre get No if you do a pre game spot,

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01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 4: if you do a postgame commercial. If you only want

1382
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 4: to run in one market, maybe.

1383
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: Okay, wait billion a million if I want to run

1384
01:00:59,520 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: in one more.

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01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: You're saying, Lillie, I want to get a god blas

1386
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: football commercial into the Super.

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Speaker 3: Bowl that it'll never happen. We couldn't even right feet.

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01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: So what's the most desirable spot to put an ad

1389
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl?

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01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 4: Usually right after kickoff, like that first spot right at

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01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 4: the beginning of the game is desirable. One heading into

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01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 4: halftime is another attractive one, especially if it's a big

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01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 4: halftime performer.

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01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 3: So I have an impossible question for you because we

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: had Andy Reid, the coach of the Chiefs, on with us,

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01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: and he's a big cheeseburger enthusiast and we had him

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01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: create the perfect cheeseburger. So I would like to, as

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01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 3: a group, collectively with you create the perfect Super Bowl

1399
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 3: commercial and it'll be catered obviously to your likes and dislikes.

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Speaker 3: So what would you What should our product be that

1401
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: we should be promoting in our perfect Super Bowl ad.

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01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 4: I don't know about the product, but what you should

1403
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 4: have in a Super Bowl commercial is dogs and babies.

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01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 3: Really, no celebrities. Celebrities are important, you know.

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01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 4: Look, I mean almost every brand had a celebrity this year,

1406
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: and I think for the most part, many of them

1407
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 4: sort of just blurred together. But interestingly, the two ads

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01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 4: that were at like the top of the rankings this year?

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01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 4: Where are that farmer's dog and an Amazon's ad which

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01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 4: has a dog and it was like the star of

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01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,479
Speaker 4: the ad. So dogs and babies, historically animals of any

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01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 4: kind tend to do well.

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01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 3: So here's what I'm thinking. But the problem is now

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01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 3: we're kind of having contradictions and it's going to be

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01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 3: hard because I'm thinking dogs and babies sell, right, celebrities sell.

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01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: So what if we do celebrity dogs and celebrity babies together?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: But then, like, who's one of the biggest spenders beer companies?

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Speaker 3: But we can't have babies and dogs selling us beer? Right,

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Speaker 3: So then what do we take out of that equation?

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Speaker 4: We've had dogs sell beer before?

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01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yis and the dogs.

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01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 6: Clydesdales and the dog that's the most memorable.

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01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, and spuds I mean right, yeah, what you.

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01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: Got now, Billy?

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01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 3: Well, no, I guess, And I mean we can we

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01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 3: can we find we have to find a way to

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01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 3: sneak a celebrity baby in there?

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01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 2: Right? Is beer?

1430
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 3: Like the biggest seller is like the biggest spender on

1431
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 3: these ads.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting because an iasid Bush gave up its category

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01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 4: exclusivity this year, so they were the only ones with

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01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 4: any sort of alcohol beer ads for decades. They gave

1435
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 4: up that category exclusivity. So this year, if you noticed,

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01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 4: for the first time you had Mulsenkor's in there, you

1437
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 4: had Remy Martin Crown Royal. So it actually was a

1438
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 4: different kind of alcoholic beer category this year than in

1439
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 4: really most prior years.

1440
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: How much was category exclusive? How much is it cost?

1441
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 4: I mean they've been grandfathered in for decades, so that costs.

1442
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 4: It's hard to nail down.

1443
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: So how would you overall this year's Because I feel

1444
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: like the Super the Great Super Bowl commercial is dying

1445
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: a very slow I do. So how would you grade

1446
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: this set of commercials from the Super Bowl yesterday?

1447
01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 4: I would actually agree with you. I think you're right.

1448
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 4: I think the Great Super Bowl ads are becoming further

1449
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 4: and viewer. There just tends to not be as many

1450
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 4: that really stand out in any giving game the last

1451
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 4: like three years. I think it really people want to

1452
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 4: play it safe, Like brands are so concerned about either

1453
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 4: alienating consumers, upsetting consumers just like wanting to entertain and

1454
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 4: be humorous, that they're like playing it safe.

1455
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 3: Who's like the Steven Spielberg of the super Bowl commercials,

1456
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 3: like the person that you'd go to year after year

1457
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 3: and say, this person is going to get it done.

1458
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are a couple I think this year, and

1459
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 4: he's directed a bunch of the past. Is Brian Buckley.

1460
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 4: He directed the NFL spot, which did really well this

1461
01:04:54,600 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 4: year and Avocados from Mexico. He's often relied upon super

1462
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 4: Bowl director.

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01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 6: How does nostalgia play in because I felt like this

1464
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 6: year they leaned a lot on that. We had John

1465
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 6: Travolta singing Greece, we had all of the metal you know,

1466
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 6: Ozzy Osbourne and all those guys, and then we even

1467
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 6: had the Diddy commercial where they brought in all the

1468
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 6: old nineties acts and I was liking it, but like

1469
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 6: my nephew was like, what who is that guy?

1470
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's something too.

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01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 8: Like that.

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01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 4: Brands have really been leaning into this idea of nostalgia.

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01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 4: You see. They even did like the Alicia Silverstone brings

1474
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 4: that Clueless. There we have pop corners, they did the

1475
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 4: Breaking bad Lander, Zoolander. There are definitely Caddi Shack and

1476
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 4: the michelob Ultra and so there is a bunch of

1477
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 4: elements of nostalgia in there. It's really like just a

1478
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 4: way to.

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01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 3: Entertain feels lazy.

1480
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 4: It is, Yeah, it definitely is unless it's done really,

1481
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 4: really well. I think there was one last year and

1482
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 4: I'm going to forget the brand here, which isn't a

1483
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 4: good sign. But they did Austin Powers and and remade

1484
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 4: Austin Powers, which was a fun one. But yeah, I

1485
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 4: think they're hard to do. It's really just doing it

1486
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 4: because you know that there's a built in audience, right

1487
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 4: there's fans of whatever franchise, show, movie, and you know

1488
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 4: that at least those people are going to enjoy it.

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: Who's the worst at making these where it comes across

1490
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: your desk you like, this isn't going to be good?

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01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: Who's them? Night? Hyamalan Like, who oh, I said.

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01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 4: I said, it's there's so many changes. There's not you know,

1493
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 4: one Super Bowl advertiser that's in every year, and they

1494
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 4: change so much and there's so many newcomers year after

1495
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 4: year that it's hard to know what's going to like

1496
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 4: miss you know, I think like the Googles of the world,

1497
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 4: the Amazons, you typically know that those ads are going

1498
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 4: to be solid, but you never know there's there's misses

1499
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 4: for sure.

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Speaker 1: Do you have like a top three campaigns of all time?

1501
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: My top three super Bowl commercials or since you started

1502
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: doing this, do you do you have like off the

1503
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 1: top of your head or does that put you on

1504
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: the spot, you know?

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01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 4: I mean I would go back to like the Budweiser

1506
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 4: Clydesdales ones. Those are classic. I think they did an

1507
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 4: amazing job at that time of doing what you're supposed

1508
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 4: to do, of like pulling at an emotion and getting

1509
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 4: super Bowl viewers watching. I mentioned the Darth Vader Volkswagen

1510
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 4: one that's really like an iconic super Bowl ad. I

1511
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 4: think that that's really a great one and people really

1512
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 4: remember that.

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01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: Judie, we appreciate this very very much as an expert

1514
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: V expert on the Super Bowl lands that you see

1515
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: every single year. Anything you'd like to promote the way out,

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01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: we appreciate your time very very much.

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01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 4: I know you can go to Adage. You can read

1518
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 4: about all of our reviews. We do some fun ones

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01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,919
Speaker 4: at adage dot com slash super Bowl and you'll get

1520
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 4: all of this fun information. There are lots of videos.

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01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 4: You can watch all the ads. If you missed any

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01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 4: of them, go rewatch them all right.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate your time.

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01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's a busy day for you, perhaps the

1525
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: busiest day of the year for you, so we appreciate

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01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: the fifteen minutes that you carved out for us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Your information was great, so thank you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me