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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: A beautiful Tuesday to you, and beautiful is in the

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Speaker 2: eye of the beholder if you like one hundred plus degrees.

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Speaker 1: This is for you. Folks. Houston Weather hope you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the day.

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Speaker 2: And we are one week and one day away from

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Speaker 2: our first training camp show at the Houston Methodist Training Center.

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Speaker 1: Johnny, are you ready? You're always ready?

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Speaker 3: Man. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I told you during in the lab that I feel

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Speaker 4: like I need another week just all the other I

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Speaker 4: don't know this one sort of I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you get out blind me forward to training camp.

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Speaker 3: But it's just there's been so much stuff going on.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I needed this summer and I

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Speaker 4: didn't get it, and that was a vacation of some sort,

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Speaker 4: just to get away from something. I got the media

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Speaker 4: big twelve DA days and that was great, that was tremendous.

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Speaker 4: But I needed a day or two somewhere and I

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Speaker 4: just didn't get it for this summer.

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Speaker 3: So oh well, bo was me.

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Speaker 4: Now we start football on Wednesday, and next Wednesday, that

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Speaker 4: is I'm looking forward to that. Eight to ten got

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Speaker 4: start with Sean and Seth at six. At eight we

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Speaker 4: they not. Yeah, sure, they'll be right out there. They

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Speaker 2: Lopez loves being out in the one hundred degree heat,

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Speaker 2: of course, and they interview players, and we'll be doing

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Speaker 2: the shows. By the way, all of us from the

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Speaker 1: They'll be able to say hello. So stop on by.

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Speaker 2: If you're going to one of the training camp practices.

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Speaker 2: Information available at Houston Texans dot com and the Texans app. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I've got a lot of fun things, including but not

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Speaker 2: limited to, a new game show in the second segment

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Speaker 2: called Let's Make a Texans Deal. So that's coming up.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you'll love it door number three. You know,

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Speaker 2: we've done this from time to time, stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: but I've organized it, Johnny, I've gone formal with it.

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Speaker 2: So that's segment two, Let's make a Texans Deal. You'll

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Speaker 2: have options to decide how the Tech season is gonna

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Speaker 2: go down. At first, I want to do a little

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Speaker 2: thing on the running back situation around the league, because

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Speaker 2: I think that's important and it's relevant because, Hey, in

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Speaker 2: a couple of years, we'll be going through this, I

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Speaker 2: hope in a good way.

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Speaker 1: With Damian Pierce. What do you do about Damian Piers?

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Speaker 1: He's so awesome.

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Speaker 2: What's gonna be the situation with his contract? Look, that's

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Speaker 2: not gonna be fun in some ways, but in many

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Speaker 2: other ways it'll be great because it'll be awesome right

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Speaker 2: in this scenario, and he's awesome so far. So let's

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Speaker 2: hope that you have some of those luxury problems, so

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Speaker 2: to speak. And after that, camp crush projections, camp crush

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Speaker 2: in different position groups. You give me yours, I give

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Speaker 2: you mind, and we'll go from there our predictions to

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Speaker 2: who's gonna be our camp crushes in various position groups.

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Speaker 2: But first, Johnny, the running back situation. Sewn and Seth

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Speaker 2: were talking about this this morning. I thought Sean made

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Speaker 2: a great point about the franchise tags that, Okay, if

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be boiled down to position group, top average salary,

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be the competence in a franchise tag situation. Fine,

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Speaker 2: but why not make the comp that a team has

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Speaker 2: always match the offer or exceed the offer. Why not

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Speaker 2: group is. In other words, if Lamar Jackson is two

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Speaker 2: why not make a running back one first rounder or

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Speaker 2: two second rounders or something like that. I thought that

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Speaker 2: somebody else has mentioned it. What do you think?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think sometimes we end up comparing apples and oranges,

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Speaker 3: And kind of what I'm getting at is the franchise tag.

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Speaker 4: As it is is already different for different positions. So

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Speaker 4: you're talking about with different positions. Quarterback franchise tag is

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Speaker 4: thirty two million dollars. Running back is ten million. A

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Speaker 4: we not taking your point? And that is our quarterback

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Speaker 4: all right, the different franchise tag values are you know, different,

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Speaker 4: But we're on the other hand saying, well, if you

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Speaker 3: Well that's all.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't make any That doesn't make sense. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know that we really have ever look into it.

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Speaker 4: Why it doesn't make sense until now until running backs

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Speaker 3: It's been right in front of our eyes the entire time.

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Speaker 4: It's been right in front of us, but we just

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Speaker 2: To be honest, the franchise tag would be probably better

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Speaker 2: where all right, you franchise a guy, somebody else does

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Speaker 2: to the tune of two first rounders, then what are

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Speaker 2: you gonna do the player ends up staying with the team. Look,

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Speaker 2: the money is good, I get it, because for that

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Speaker 2: know where it's all going from here. You have you're

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Speaker 2: down the line. All right, camp crush projections, Let's do

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Speaker 2: as Let's make a Texans deal, Johnny, I'm gonna start

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Speaker 2: with wide receivers. Wide receivers camp crush criteria are because

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Speaker 2: camp crush criteria cannot be Robert Woods, can't be somebody

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Speaker 1: Now you're gonna ask me. Maybe you won't, but people will.

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Speaker 2: Does Nico Collins qualify as a camp crush.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Really, he's been around here.

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Speaker 2: He's a starting player or starting caliber player. If he's healthy,

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Speaker 4: Thoughts, I think everybody would be in love with Tank

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Speaker 4: at Big twelve media days. I think he he loved

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Speaker 4: camp crush, the very first thing that popped into my

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Speaker 4: head was Xavier Hutchinson. Oh, Xavier Hutchinson is that guy.

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Speaker 4: Xavier is Mike immediately was the first one that I

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Speaker 4: came up with, as soon as you said, without regard

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Speaker 1: Okay, regardless of positions.

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Speaker 3: Regardless of position, he was the first one I thought of.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people who go to practice are going

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Speaker 1: I'll go here, Steven Simms.

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Speaker 2: Steven Simms, who had some moments in OTAs, this is

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Speaker 2: training center. All right, running back camp crush prediction projection here.

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Speaker 1: Who do you got now?

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Speaker 2: Singletary doesn't count, Pierce doesn't count. I'll give you the candidates.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Daria Gunbiwala, we know the guy. He's been

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Speaker 2: been around here still. But Jared Doaks Xavian Validae, I

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Speaker 2: And Mike Boone So those are your candidates for camp

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Speaker 2: crush running back style.

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Speaker 4: I'm going with a guy for maybe the strangest reason.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna try and stay away from rookies. I think

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Speaker 4: we're all intrigued with rookies. But I had two rookies

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Speaker 4: actually been watching not him on tape, but I've been

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Speaker 4: I've got two rookies in my but I'll leave those

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Speaker 4: one reason and one reason only. As many know, I

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Speaker 4: Mike Boone and plus I when Mike was he didn't

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Speaker 4: practiced much. I think it was maybe just all practice,

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Speaker 4: and in that practice, I'm like, well he could scoot.

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Speaker 4: I like what this guy's able to do. So I'm

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Speaker 4: curious to see how they use him. They used him

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Speaker 4: in some third down situations during the practice component, throughout

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Speaker 4: Mini camp and OTA, so I'm gonna.

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Speaker 3: Go Mike Boone.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people were talking about Mike Boone, So

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to the camp crush of Mike Boone

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Speaker 4: Baker County High School, and I think he can do

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Speaker 4: some things on third down.

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Speaker 2: I will allow myself to go with rookies. And my

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Speaker 2: camp crush for jaction at the running back position is

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Speaker 2: Xavier Valide. I've talked about him plenty during OTAs I

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Speaker 2: already have a camp crush on him.

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Speaker 1: It's predetermined. He's my guy. Let's go Xavi and validate quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna do it with camp crushes because you

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Speaker 2: have three and we all know who the big crush is.

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Speaker 1: Although Keenum and maybe some people.

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Speaker 3: I got a feel and there are a lot of people

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Speaker 2: For sure, Johnny, is there anybody other than you who

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Speaker 3: Treat offensive lineman like they're not even people.

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Speaker 2: I said this. Geez, No it's not true. I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean position group.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it needs to be.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously we all want to, you know, talk

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Speaker 4: we get excited about that. My camp crush actually is

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Speaker 2: And look, you know, I'll allow this because it's the

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Speaker 1: I got a better one.

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Speaker 4: But when he was at when he was at Georgia Tech,

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Speaker 4: he's gonna end up playing for these guys. You watch,

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Speaker 4: and that's exactly what happened. He ended up being a

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Speaker 3: So yeah, he was a fourth He was a fourth rounder,

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Speaker 4: And he's silly in large part just because he's he's

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Speaker 4: that good. But he's shorter, he's six one and a

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Speaker 4: So I think in the zone game he is going

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Speaker 4: from that perspective, I think Shaq Mason I got a

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Speaker 4: how he fits what he brings this offensive line. We've

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Speaker 4: I don't think he's been very good. It's not been

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Speaker 4: Kenyon showed and flashed a few things early on, and

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Speaker 4: Kenyan Green can take that position to a whole different level.

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Speaker 4: So I'm going with Shack Mason as my crush on

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Speaker 2: All right, since you made it mandatory that we include

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Speaker 2: and you'll be impressed by this. I believe Michael Dieter

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Speaker 2: bunch of different spots during OTA's He's versatile. I know

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Speaker 1: Old linemen were concerned, But what's wrong with that?

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with a guy who can play tackle or

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Speaker 1: For his employability.

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Speaker 2: Michael Dieter, who came from Miami, this is a player

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Speaker 3: Yes, he can do.

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Speaker 4: I think he can play any position on the line.

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Speaker 4: I think we saw I think we saw everything but center.

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Speaker 4: think you've got enough on the outside, health permitting with Laramie, Titus, Deculus,

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Speaker 4: Charlie Heck, you got four guys on the outside that

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Speaker 4: I think you liked what you saw last last year,

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Speaker 3: It to, you got it.

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Speaker 4: But at least any of the interior positions are covered

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Speaker 2: Right, tight ends. There is only one player who qualifies

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Speaker 2: Like Teagan Cottriano, we know him from last year. He's

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Speaker 2: Shrek saw some good things last year. Touchdown reception, was

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Speaker 2: it the game winner? I don't know, against the Rams

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Speaker 1: Very nice.

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Speaker 2: But Jordan Murray is the guy I'm thinking of here,

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Speaker 3: He's an interesting guy.

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Speaker 4: Played his career at Missouri State and then his final

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Speaker 3: He's a really good athlete, and.

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Speaker 1: It was like he's all of a sudden in the backfield.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm last night, it's like ten thirty eleven

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Speaker 3: A rocket shot right at those guys.

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Speaker 4: make a quick decision. I'm telling you, Mark. There was

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Speaker 3: He got there so fast.

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Speaker 4: I thought he was tackling both guys, and A and

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Speaker 3: God they got he's a Texan. It's amazing to sit

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Speaker 3: This is awesome. And he's signed. This is great.

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Speaker 1: Top three pick, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: So anyways, yeah, Jordan Murray's gonna be interesting just from

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Speaker 3: I think it's okay.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people, this is my perception

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Speaker 4: I think people are starting to forget about Brevin, and

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Speaker 4: I think there's still something there with him.

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Speaker 2: But see, to me, a camp crush has to be

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Speaker 1: He's probably breen Jan the Red.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's probably listening to this thinking, well,

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Speaker 2: what's wrong with me with a crush? No, there's nothing

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Speaker 2: wrong with you, Brevin. It's just that you're that well

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Speaker 3: I get that.

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Speaker 4: I get that, And so, yeah, you're right, it's either

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Speaker 3: I kept coming back to you know what I say

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Speaker 1: He's another category. He's one of those hang.

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Speaker 2: Around long enough, work hard enough, and you never know

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Speaker 3: I'll let you go first on this one.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I'm not gonna take your guy though, Okay,

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Speaker 4: who do you think my guy is?

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Speaker 1: Dylan Horton?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'm gonna go a guy who's been here,

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Speaker 1: That's Derek Rivers.

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Speaker 3: Dang it, now, you took my guy.

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Speaker 1: We like Derek a lot you gave away. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want no feeling, Horton.

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Speaker 2: But when Derek plays, Derek makes plays. It's that simple,

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Speaker 2: He knows this could be last task on the left.

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Speaker 2: and he wants to be out there.

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Speaker 1: He wants to show out. Sorry I used a lovey term,

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Speaker 1: but it's okay.

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Speaker 2: It's the laplace here and Derek is going to be

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Speaker 4: Okay, here's mine. Now this goes back a little bit.

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Speaker 4: He was a five star recruit come out of high school.

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Speaker 3: What can they do with it?

437
00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 4: And he played for him for a couple of years

438
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 4: and did something, did some things, and now he ends

439
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 4: up in mini camp, ending up with the Texas because

440
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 4: Taylor Stalwarth got hurt and that was one of the

441
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,320
Speaker 4: reasons why I noticed him. Like, wait a second, I

442
00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,800
Speaker 4: see number ninety out there. I'm like, that was Taylor Stalworth.

443
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 4: That's not but that is a good looking dude. Byron Coward.

444
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 4: Not a lot of people know Byron Coward, he's been around.

445
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 4: This is fourth year in the league. He was, like

446
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 4: I said, the number one recruit in the country, or

447
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 4: at least top to top two in different services. He

448
00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 4: was incredible, incredible athlete, and I think some of the

449
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 4: athleticism showed during OTAs in mini camps. Now putting it

450
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,199
Speaker 4: all together with the depth that's already there on the

451
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,479
Speaker 4: defensive line, we'll see.

452
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 3: But I cheer for guys like that. You know, he

453
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,000
Speaker 3: didn't have.

454
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,920
Speaker 4: It was kind of a star cross college career and

455
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 4: it didn't really come together for him. But I do

456
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,119
Speaker 4: think there is athleticism and elite traits still there. The

457
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,919
Speaker 4: guy was a five star recruit. There was something. There

458
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 4: was something there in high school. And I know yet, well,

459
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 4: high school doesn't mean you a great high school player.

460
00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 4: Doesn't become appropriate. Yeah, I get that. I've been around

461
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 4: a little bit. I've seen some things. I get it.

462
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 4: But when you see him, you realize, Yo, he's got

463
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 4: the build to be able to play. He's got long arms,

464
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 4: he can move, he is quick, he's got assets that

465
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 4: you want on defensive lineman. And when he was playing

466
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 4: with the Patriots, he did show some things. So I'm

467
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 4: curious to see what he adds to this mix because

468
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 4: it's a deeper group, it's more talented group. We're obviously

469
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 4: gonna have our eyes on Will Anderson Junior, there's no

470
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 4: doubt about that. We'll watch Dylan Horton, We'll be excited

471
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,239
Speaker 4: about a rookie, et cetera. But I think the two

472
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 4: guys that we brought up are very, very intriguing for

473
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 4: definitely different reasons. Yes, former Patriots both, but Derrek Rivers,

474
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 4: like you said, has been around. I contend that Derrek

475
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 4: Rivers is the best pure pass rusher on this team,

476
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 4: followed by Jacob Martin.

477
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 2: While you're dealing with a very high pure pass rusher.

478
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 2: All right, let's go here. Linebackers, camp crush projections. These

479
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: are under the radar guys who shining camp everybody falls

480
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 2: in love with.

481
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 1: I know you want to go first out.

482
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 4: Here, going first, because you know exactly who I'm gonna take.

483
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 4: And that's my guy, Henry Totoa. And he's the guy

484
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 4: I've been watching. And I should say I kick my

485
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Speaker 4: eyes off when I'm watching college team, when I'm watching

486
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 4: prospects from last year, I keep seeing number ten. I

487
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 4: had the game on today against LSU, and they throw

488
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 4: up like a like a now screen, just a quick

489
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 4: screen out to Malik Neighbors, who is one of the

490
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 4: better receivers in the league. And Totoa is at an

491
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 4: inside linebacker position and I'm talking dead sprint to one

492
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,400
Speaker 4: of the faster guys, one of the quicker guys. It's

493
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 4: basically a bigger version of Tank Dell. And he makes

494
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 4: a tackle for about a two or three yard loss.

495
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 4: And I was in the studio and there was nobody

496
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: in here, and I'm just watching it back and when

497
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 4: I was like, dang, And I mean I was literally

498
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 4: my reaction like I probably said something worse, but it

499
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 4: was something along those lines like we got can I

500
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 4: get it? I get I Just I love Henry Totoll

501
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 4: watching him in mini campbet Otia, seeing how much he

502
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 4: was picking up early. But here's the other thing I

503
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 4: picked up as I was watching an LSU game. Newho's

504
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 4: in charge of all those special teams, especially punt team

505
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 4: personal protector. Henry tota He got guys lined up, he'd

506
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 4: bring guys in if he saw a block that he

507
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 4: you know, the punt block over there, He's like, oh,

508
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 4: you wave guys in he was in full command, the

509
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 4: starting linebacker, personal punt protector. I think Henry toto he's

510
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 4: gonna get on the field. Hopefully at some point he

511
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 4: changes his number because it can't stand the number thirty

512
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: nine on a linebacker. But he's gonna find away on

513
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 4: the field and impact. Oh yeah, Johnny, he's gonna find

514
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 4: a way. I don't know what's going on, health permitting,

515
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 4: health permitting, but he's gonna find a way.

516
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 2: The body language is fantastic. If he doesn't know everything

517
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: that's going on out there, he's doing a great job

518
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: of faking it of acting like it. Because when I

519
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: observe him at OTAs is pointed here, point of there

520
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: you go, there you go, it's like he knows the

521
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 2: whole thing already.

522
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: And he's a rookie, yep.

523
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: And there was another linebacker who was a rookie once

524
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: upon a time that I got that vibe from. And

525
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave it at that. Let's not get

526
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: too far ahead of ourselves. But he's my guy as well.

527
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna tie with this one. Can't crush projection of

528
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 2: Henry to atoa. We already have an Ota crush on

529
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: him all right, secondary, I really want to go first

530
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 2: here because I know you're gonna pick the same guy.

531
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Speaker 1: But I might be wrong, but I'm gonna.

532
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: Go Brandon Hill from the University of Pittsburgh, my friend.

533
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: This player again, impossible not to notice OTAs you look

534
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: at him on tape, and I looked at a little

535
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: bit of tape. He's fun to watch in college. Look,

536
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: we'll see how the coverage goes. He's gonna have to

537
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: get better at that. But he's one of those players,

538
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: like dare I say, Eddie pleasant kind of guy.

539
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: Maybe he fired.

540
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: Makes play spot duty, is the deep cover guy, but

541
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: special teams other instances you want to beef up against

542
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 2: the run, he's your player.

543
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 3: That's a great comparison. I like that.

544
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 4: I think Brandon Hill can do a lot now they

545
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: were they're built differently. I think Eddie was a little

546
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,439
Speaker 4: bit bigger, uh than Brandon. But Nicko Serio sat right

547
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 4: here and told us about how Brandon Hill's been doing

548
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,199
Speaker 4: some work at the star position the nickel. Basically, he

549
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: had not done that in college. He always played safety,

550
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 4: So they're getting some work at the star position. I

551
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 4: thought that was that's a perfect fit for him. It's

552
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 4: a perfect perfect fit for him. So yeah, Brandon Hills

553
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 4: is definitely a I would think about it. I'll throw

554
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 4: you another one, and it's a second year guy, and

555
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 4: I think we saw a little bit of it last year.

556
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 4: But he's a rookie, so he's still trying to find

557
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: his way. And no, it's not Derek Stingley. Kobe Francis.

558
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 4: I think he has got a great build. I think

559
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 4: he can fly. I think last year being able to

560
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 4: stick around here all year, I think really helped him.

561
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: He ended up playing in a few games on special

562
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 4: teams in particular.

563
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 3: But I think he has got I think he's.

564
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 4: Got a ton of athleticism that can translate into being

565
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 4: a corner in this league at some point. Kobe Francis,

566
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: I think last year you went by Jakobe. Now he's

567
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 4: just Kobe Francis. I think he's got an opportunity again.

568
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 4: Stephen Nelson situation, we've talked about a little bit. We

569
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 4: don't know what that's gonna turn out to, but they

570
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 4: did sign Shaq Griffin. But after stingleing Shaq Griffin, Stephen Nelson, boy,

571
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: it's a really interesting competition for corner. Now you know

572
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: that des can always go out there if you need to.

573
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 4: You can always put Desmond King out there corner. He's

574
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 4: played that, He's played a lot the last couple of

575
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 4: years outside. But I think Dez really has found a

576
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 4: Niche is gonna find a niche in his defense playing inside.

577
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 3: So we'll see how that all works out. But you

578
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: can always go to Dez.

579
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,360
Speaker 4: But you'd love to have a young dude step up

580
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 4: on the outside that you can go, Okay, we're gonna

581
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 4: grow this guy. You know, the AJ Boyer type, right,

582
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 4: You know, a guy you see something in that you

583
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 4: can grow and grow. And I think that's what Kobe

584
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: Francis might end up being.

585
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: Now.

586
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 4: Does he turned an AJ Boyer? I mean that's a

587
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 4: that's a mouthful. AJ ended up being a really good

588
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 4: player for this organization for a long time. Can Kobe

589
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 4: be that? I don't know, but he's got the athleticism

590
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 4: to be able to do that. We'll see if his

591
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 4: his corner playing skills will match that. And he's got

592
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,120
Speaker 4: a good opportunity going up against these receivers in training camp.

593
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go Kobe Francis to match your Brandon Hill.

594
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: Okay, coming up next, that is camp crush projection stuff.

595
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: By the way, we'll talk camp crushes all throughout training camp,

596
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: which begins a week from tomorrow. Coming up next, it's

597
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: gonna be let's make a Texans deal. Johnny's gonna make choices,

598
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 2: really tough ones on how the season's gonna go. It's

599
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 2: next on Texans Radio. Moving right along here on Texans Radio,

600
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: Mark Vandermere and John Harris with you. And it's time

601
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: to play the game that's sweeping the nation. It's really

602
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: not because it's just starting tonight. Let's make a Texans deal, Johnny,

603
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: are you ready to rock?

604
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:15,239
Speaker 4: Here?

605
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 3: Let's go. How many doors do I get? One? Two, three, four?

606
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: I'll let you know. I'll let that.

607
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: Information is given out on a need to know basis only,

608
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: and here it comes all right. Question number one related

609
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: to deal number one. You can make the playoffs and

610
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: advance to the divisional round, but the Jags are gonna

611
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: win the super Bowl?

612
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: Right?

613
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: You make the playoffs, advance to the divisional round this

614
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 2: is this year, but the Jags win the Super Bowl?

615
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: Or will you take what's behind Door number two?

616
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 3: I want door number two.

617
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: You're not gonna take the divisional round.

618
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: I want door number two, but.

619
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is a generational talent.

620
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 3: As much as I'd like to see you wrong about this,

621
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 3: you will be. I'm I'm willing. I'm willing to ride

622
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 3: it out with door number two.

623
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, what's door number two. Let's

624
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: see what's behind door number two. It is nine and

625
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 2: eight and you missed the playoffs. However, okay, but you

626
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: have a lot of momentum. It's like Detroit this past year.

627
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: Right right, and the jack don't won the super Bowl.

628
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: Well, let's hope not. I didn't promise you that.

629
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 2: See all right, see how this game is going. It's

630
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: let's make a Texans deal. All right, let's go with

631
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: deal number two.

632
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: Divisional round again. I mean, I want to get there.

633
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 4: But listen, beggars can't be choosers. After the last three

634
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 4: years we've had, I know, but the last time we

635
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: lost in the divisional playoff round, it left the stain

636
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 4: very painful.

637
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: But this year you would think, Okay, you went somewhere,

638
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: You made tendus.

639
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: You feel like you went somewhere too.

640
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: It's true. It's tough, Okay.

641
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to want the Jacks that won the

642
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Either Okay, here we go Damian Pierce. This

643
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: is deal number two. Damian Pierce leads the AFC, not

644
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: the NFL, but the AFC and rushing.

645
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: And that's saying something. Plus, this is a package deal. CJ.

646
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: Stroud throws twenty five touchdowns and ten picks. Twenty five

647
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: and ten. That's a nice little ratio for a rookie quarterback.

648
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: Are you kidding?

649
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you choose, or you go nine and eight.

650
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: So you could take one of those two. You could

651
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: take Damian Pierce leads the AFC and rushing. Stroud throws

652
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 2: twenty five tds and ten picks, or you go nine

653
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: and eight. Or you could just pick what's in the box.

654
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: What's in the box. You don't know what's in the box,

655
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: but you have a choice of those two or what's

656
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: in the box.

657
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: What are you thinking here?

658
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: I like scenario one. I like I like Damian Lee,

659
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: NAFCY and rushing Pro Bowl. Obviously, CJ twenty five and

660
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 4: ten those are Garoppolo like numbers. I mean, Garoppolo is

661
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: a veteran.

662
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: I mean I know what.

663
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: The record is pretty solid. Did you not say it's

664
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: nine and eight?

665
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: No, no, no, or you go nine to eight.

666
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: Okay, and without knowing what those guys are gonna do,

667
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say a record over those individual accomplishments.

668
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: I kind of want the individual accomplishments.

669
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: We're out of time, I'm.

670
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: Going I'm going with door number one.

671
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: I want the individual accomplishments because as much as I'd

672
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 4: like for them to be nine and eight, if those

673
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: two guys are having those kind of years, there's a

674
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 4: pretty good opportunity that they're going to be at at

675
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: least eight to nine, nine and eight.

676
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: Do you want to know what was in the box?

677
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: Was in a box? Of course?

678
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: I do ten and seven in a playoff appearance, I'm

679
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: not I'm not certain what would happen in that playoff appearance,

680
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: but ten and seven you didn't pick what was in

681
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: the box. I'm telling you, behind these doors and curtains

682
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: and boxes could be some good stuff you never know,

683
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: but there also could be duds. But I could be

684
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: I like, you could get canned food like on the

685
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: real Let's make a deal.

686
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: You know me, I'm more about team than I am

687
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: anything individually.

688
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 4: But if those two guys are having those years, yeah,

689
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 4: I mean, how many times.

690
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: Did de Sean throw for over thirty touchdowns once?

691
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 3: Once?

692
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah?

693
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: So bad years and rushing.

694
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: I think that's gonna get me at least eight, nine,

695
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 4: nine and eight, and I'll feel good about a season

696
00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 4: that's that.

697
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: Okay, now here, here's another one. Deal Number three.

698
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: You get to go to the AFC Championship Game, but

699
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna cost you two first round picks?

700
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: Or do you pick what's behind the curtain? So here

701
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 1: it is.

702
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: You get to go to the AFC Championship Game. I'm

703
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: gonna send you there, Johnny, but it's gonna cost you

704
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: two first rounders to do it. Or do you pick

705
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: what's behind the curtain? So you don't know what's gonna

706
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: happen in the AFC champions Okay.

707
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: You don't know no, no their soul. You just know

708
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: you're getting there.

709
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: I should have made you stop at the AFC Championship game.

710
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: You lose the I'm gonna change it. Monty and Wayne

711
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: Brady have helped me here and we're gonna say you

712
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: lose the AFC Championship Game, but it costs you two

713
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: first round picks?

714
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: Or do you pick what's behind the curtain?

715
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 3: Behind the curtain really yeah, play the music.

716
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go behind the curtain. Listen going to

717
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 4: the SC Championship game. It's fantastic.

718
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: It's the music.

719
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 3: I want to get there.

720
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 4: It's I mean, can you imagine with that Sunday will

721
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 4: be like I mean, I man, that divisional playoff game

722
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 4: against the Chiefs. I was so hyped. I mean, there

723
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 4: was so and anyways, we know how that went. I

724
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 4: can only imagine what AFC Championship game is like. But

725
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 4: give I have to give up to first to be

726
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 4: able to do it. I think this team is moving

727
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 4: in a direction where it doesn't have to get it.

728
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: I think the first that they have in the coming

729
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 4: years they're going to help them get the champions game.

730
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 4: So I'm going with what was behind the curtain? Well,

731
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: you made the right choice, my friend. Super Bowl in

732
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: three years and it's done. I can make it. So

733
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: I could do this. This is let's make a Texans deal.

734
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: I can do whatever I want. I love this.

735
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 4: Wait, hold on, let's see where the super Bowl is

736
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 4: in three years years.

737
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: Or over the next three years, so that would be

738
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 2: that would be the twenty twenty five season.

739
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: So next year or sorry, this year, it's in Las Vegas, right,

740
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty four to New Orleans, New Orleans, right,

741
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: and twenty five Santa Clara, California.

742
00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 1: Oh well, I like that war.

743
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: I like that one a lot, although I like for

744
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: the Texans fans, I like New Orleans.

745
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: So let's go next year, Shelby.

746
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: He me go next year, go to one of those three.

747
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: I picked the right curtain. Nice?

748
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: All right, this is this is a little tricky, all right,

749
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: deal number four? This is your final deal. My friend

750
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 2: Jets Colts.

751
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: Did I say Jets? I meant Jags. I can't read

752
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: my own writing.

753
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: Jags, Colts, and Titans all have losing seasons. I can

754
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: guarantee you this right now, the Jags. I don't know

755
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: what the Texans are gonna do, but the Jags, Colts,

756
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: and Titans all lose or you can pick door number two.

757
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: So think about this.

758
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: Well, the math on this is, if they're all having

759
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: losing seasons, then more than likely the Texans have had

760
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 4: a winning season. So I'm gonna go with that first one.

761
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh really, you think more than likely they have a

762
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: winning season? All right?

763
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: I'm going I don't know.

764
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: And if they all have losing seasons in the Texas

765
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 4: winning season, they win the division, and now in the dance.

766
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: I should add an element to this game where I

767
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: can answer that question, No they do, I mean, no

768
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: they don't.

769
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: Yes they do.

770
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: But here is what is behind door number two, which

771
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 2: you did not select.

772
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 3: I did not.

773
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: The Jags go ten and seven and the Texans go

774
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: nine to eight. I had a guaranteed winning season for

775
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: the Houston Texans and the Jags go ten and seven.

776
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know how the Colts.

777
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: And Titans do in this scenario, but I would imagine

778
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 2: it would be losing campaigns.

779
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: Right if the Jags. If the Jags, Colts, and Titans

780
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 4: are all having lose the season. So let's say that

781
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 4: all three of them finished eight to nine, which im PROVENNA.

782
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's gonna I mean, I could

783
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 4: see it happening, but I don't think there are all

784
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 4: gonna be eight nine. One's gonna be eight nine, one's

785
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 4: gonna be six and eleven. One's gonna end up bottoming

786
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 4: out four and thirteen. If that's the case, the Texans

787
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 4: have probably gotten to seven eight wins and they're right

788
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 4: there gonna win the division. So they all lose the

789
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 4: Texans find their way to the top, and the Texans may,

790
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 4: depending on tiebreakers, win it with eight nine, So I

791
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 4: will go with that.

792
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: Do you think how many wins, by the way, is

793
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: Hopkins worth in Tennessee? I don't know if you can

794
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: really value it that way evaluate it that way.

795
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: It's a good question.

796
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 4: I'm I was curious to see whether and I don't

797
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 4: follow these things as much as some of our other

798
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 4: friends do. I was curious to see how much the

799
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: seat over under season total moved, if at all. Did

800
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 4: it move a half game, did it move a game?

801
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 4: I know quarterbacks can flip that line. I know Brady

802
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: did that last year with the Buccaneers when he decided

803
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 4: to retire.

804
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: I don't know what that would mean for Tennessee.

805
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 4: I mean he might from that standpoint, might be worth

806
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: half a game maybe, but not much more than that.

807
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 4: Detexans have moved to six and a half. They were

808
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 4: five and a half. They moved a full game since March.

809
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 4: Since March, yeah, there's six and a half now, I

810
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: see over under a six and a half.

811
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: Are you serious?

812
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: It went from five and a half to six and

813
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: a half.

814
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: That's tough, that's interesting, that's better than I thought. Yes,

815
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: because when Schefter, Adam Schefter had Laramie Tonsel on a podcast,

816
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: Laramie his football camp, great for Laramie, and Schefter was saying, hey, yeah,

817
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: you know what, as I look at some of these

818
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 2: names on the roster, Yeah, I could see you guys

819
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: do it a little bit better. On paraphrasing here, I

820
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: think a lot of people see that when they look

821
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: at the depth chart. Hey, Dalton Schultz is on the Texans,

822
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: Devin Singletary has helped the run the ball with Damian Pierce,

823
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: and they got Jimmy Ward in the secondary O my gosh,

824
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: and Hassan Ridgeway and Sheldon Rankins, and yeah, you look

825
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: at the linebacking corps with Denzel Paraman added to the

826
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: mix with all the other names we always talk about,

827
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: that's not bad. They improved every position group in free

828
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: agency virtually.

829
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: I mean they really did.

830
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

831
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: And then you look at what they've done in the draft.

832
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 2: And you never know about the draft, but prospects are

833
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: decent looking at it on paper at the very least.

834
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: I'm thinking from a national perspective here, and you have

835
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 2: to say, hey, they're probably gonna be a lot better

836
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: than we thought. Now, I thought they'd be better last

837
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: year than they were a record wise, they weren't.

838
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 1: But they played better than they did the year before.

839
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 4: Would the twenty twenty two Texans beat the twenty twenty

840
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 4: one Texans I've said all along, Yes.

841
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. But here's the thing.

842
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: The twenty twenty one Texans, with a healthy early on

843
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: game and a half Tyrod Taylor could probably win because

844
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: of his elusiveness, you know, his ability to make plays.

845
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: And you know, I mean, look the first game of

846
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: the year in twenty twenty one, he chucks the ball

847
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: deep and Brandon Cooks goes and gets it. You know,

848
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: it's not really his game, but he did it. And

849
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: I love the fact that Tyrod took a shot at it.

850
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: You know, there's so many things when you look in

851
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 2: the rearview mirror about that season. But yeah, the twenty

852
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 2: twenty two Texans played a lot closer games. The league

853
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: had its closest margin of victory by and large ever,

854
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 2: and the Texans had a very close margin of defeat.

855
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: If you will, just didn't execute in the fourth quarter.

856
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: All right, that's gonna do it for it. Let's make

857
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: a Texans deal we'll bring that show back, Johnny, and

858
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: coming up next a little best of reloaded. Brian Rolap

859
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: controls league content, has a lot to say about the

860
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: way you'll be ingesting, well consuming NFL football this fall.

861
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: Let's get to that and some other stuff here on

862
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: Texans Okay. In our final segment, here a couple of

863
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: minutes with Brian Rolab, who's the chief media and business

864
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: officer with the NFL. As so many relevant things going

865
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: on right now. That Quarterback series on Netflix with Patrick Mahomes,

866
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota and Kirk Cousins is part of a partnership

867
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 2: with Skydance Media that the league has, and I talked

868
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: with Brian about that at the NFL meeting, So let's

869
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: hear about that. And also YouTube, which has your Sunday

870
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: ticket package. Let's start there, what about YouTube and the

871
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Speaker 2: Sunday ticket package and we'll take it from there with

872
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: Brian Rolab.

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Speaker 5: We're really really excited about it. I think what's different

874
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 5: in YouTube is the obvious one, which is you don't

875
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 5: need a satellite dish to watch it all you need

876
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 5: a broadband connection or a mobile connection, where increasingly everybody

877
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 5: is going in that direction already has that, but once

878
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 5: you put Sunday ticket on a medium like that, there's

879
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 5: all sorts of things you can do differently. You can,

880
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 5: you know, add interactivity. You see what YouTube has actually

881
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 5: done in the tournament this past few weeks is they've

882
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 5: done essentially a quadbox where you can actually put up

883
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 5: four games at once, pretty seamlessly, at high quality and

884
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 5: watch it, which is one thing we hear from our

885
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 5: fans all the time that they want to do. And

886
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: those are just the basic easy things. I think there's

887
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: all other sorts of things that YouTube is planning to

888
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 5: make the product more interactive and more innovative, but just

889
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 5: begin with to not if you choose not to want

890
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 5: as part of your put a satellite on your roof,

891
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 5: you don't have to. You can Also they're going to

892
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 5: distribute two ways too that you can get it on

893
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 5: YouTube tv, which the best way to think about YouTube

894
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 5: TV is essentially cable television.

895
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: But on the internet.

896
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 5: And it's the fastest growing PayTV company in this country.

897
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 5: But if you don't want it, you can buy just

898
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 5: on YouTube. It might cost you a little bit more,

899
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 5: but so you don't have to subscribe to YouTube tv.

900
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of flexibility for a fan that

901
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 5: I think that fan's really going to like.

902
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: Ryan, tell me about the the Skiddance partnership with NFL

903
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: Films and what that can do for some of the

904
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: shows we enjoy already, like Hard Knocks in season Hard Knocks,

905
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: But I know you're gonna expand the portfolio.

906
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we are.

907
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 5: We're really excited about that. We started about eighteen months

908
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 5: ago with this idea that our fans tell us all

909
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 5: the time that they love football stories, whether those stories

910
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,479
Speaker 5: come from NFL films, the documentaries we do, or things

911
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 5: like Hard Knocks or the things Hollywood does scripted. And

912
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 5: it's not just football stories. They love sports stories if

913
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 5: you look around, because as streaming platforms have got bigger,

914
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 5: whether it's Hulu or Peacock or Netflix, there's more and

915
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 5: more of this content you've ever than ever before. But

916
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 5: there's not enough sports sports under indexes. And we heard

917
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 5: this from all these providers, so we decided there's really

918
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 5: a way how do we actually create more of this

919
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 5: content for fans to enjoy. So partnering with Hollywood Studio

920
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 5: to create something new is what we decided to do.

921
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 5: So we decided to partner Scot Dances, guid Dances, the

922
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 5: film studio that had brought you Top Gun Map, the

923
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 5: biggest movie of the of the year last year. But

924
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 5: I've also have done a lot of other things on television,

925
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 5: and combining the best and unscripted which is NFL Films,

926
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 5: and combining the best in scripted, which is Skydance Studios,

927
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 5: we have created what I think is the premier sports studio.

928
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Speaker 3: In the world.

929
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 5: So you will see sports and football related movies, TV shows,

930
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 5: documentaries that you're you're used to getting from NFL films,

931
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 5: which you get a lot more of them, and we're

932
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 5: really excited about it. And one of the first things

933
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 5: you know to come under the sky Dance Sports label

934
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 5: is the movie Air, which is with Ben Affleck and

935
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 5: Matt Damon, which is about the Nike story. That's something

936
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 5: Skydance had worked on before. But that's all part of

937
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 5: the push into sports that we are now going to.

938
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Speaker 3: Be part of.

939
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: How important obviously the access is important, So let me

940
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: rephrase this, how difficult is it to get the teams

941
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: to play ball with this because the coaches want to win?

942
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: Yet we know the access is important for the programming,

943
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: and there's got to be a balance there.

944
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Speaker 5: There's exactly why it's a balance, and yeah, not all

945
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 5: the coaches love it, and I get it. And the

946
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 5: coaches are really focused on winning a certain amount of games.

947
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 5: That's what they're paid for. And you know, that's why

948
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 5: they call the NFL not for long like you know,

949
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 5: it's you need, you need to win. So I understand that.

950
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 5: So it's always a balance and so we try to

951
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 5: be very cognizant of that. That's why we have Hard

952
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 5: Knocks and we have the Ncason Hard Knocks. We don't

953
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 5: do a lot of those shows the access because of that.

954
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 5: But the good thing about this studio is it's going

955
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 5: to do much more than access shows. You know, you

956
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 5: don't need as much access or the same type of

957
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 5: access for documentaries, right, so we have a great football

958
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 5: life series that people love. You know, it's a different

959
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 5: type of access. It's an easier access or for scripted

960
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 5: entertainment that's dramatically acted. You don't need access, you need

961
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Speaker 5: something different. So I think that I think we'll be

962
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: able to increase the volume of really great football stories

963
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 5: through this, and that's really that's really the plan.

964
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Speaker 2: Okay, there's some of my conversation with Brian Rolap, chief

965
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 2: Media and Business Officer of the NFL, and I talked

966
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Speaker 2: with them at the NFL meetings. Interesting stuff to entertainment

967
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: on the way from the NFL and Skydance Media. All right,

968
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Speaker 2: that's gonna do it for the show tonight. Back at

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00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 2: it tomorrow. Looking forward to speaking with some former players

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00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: Texans legends on the program. Thanks for being a part

971
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Speaker 2: of the program tonight. It'll be up on podcasts soon enough.

972
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Speaker 2: Go Texans.