WEBVTT - Deric Muhammad Speaks 0:00:01.160 --> 0:00:04.600 Yep, yep, Ghetto Boys is back and redod it all 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.520 in your mind. Yeah, now deep throating. This is for 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:11.200 the streets, the real the reil, goading, the disenfranchise, the 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:14.560 truth escapegoating, and they ain't know where we speak the truth, 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:17.080 so they a quoted because we wrote it. The North 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:20.960 South East coaches, the ge be mocked for keeping your head, Bobby. 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:22.360 It ain't no stopping. 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:25.319 And once the be drops head by and then the 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.760 system is so corrupt they threw the rock out their 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:31.640 heads and then blame it on us. Don't get it 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.520 twisted on coding Meg danced to put no butterment biscuits. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:39.800 It's Willy d y'all. Ghetto Boys in the house back 0:00:39.840 --> 0:00:42.839 with another episode of information and instructions to help you 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:47.160 navigate through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio, 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:52.160 My brother, my brother, Derek Muhammad, thank you for having me. 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:53.680 Welcome back, man, Welcome back. 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:56.040 I appreciate it. Brother, It's and honor to be here. 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.400 Man. You are a crowd favor man. They like what 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:01.680 you had to say about about pretty much everything, but 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:05.080 especially what you had to say about black men, black males, 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.160 young black males and what we have to do to 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:09.160 get on the right track. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:16.800 It's a very underrepresented subject. It is. It's the mathematical 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:19.759 problem that nobody in a math class wants to solve. 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.840 What do we do with the black male? And the 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:29.920 reason that you don't hear it focused on intentionally a 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:34.240 lot is because so many people have given up on 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.840 our young boys. They've given up on black men. But 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.520 I tell people all the time, you know, the moment 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.319 you start thinking about giving up on black people, ask 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:47.800 yourself the question where you would be had God giving 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:48.360 up on you? 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:54.160 And where you would be if black people had given 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.760 up on you. Now you think about where America would 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:58.360 be if black people had said, I don't give down 0:01:58.360 --> 0:01:59.560 what you say, I don't care down what you do. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:00.480 I ain't doing nothing. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:01.800 Come on with it. 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:05.800 Will imagine where this country would be. It definitely would 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:07.120 not be the force that it is. 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.520 No, she certainly wouldn't be as rich as she is, 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:12.160 she wouldn't be as wealthy as she is, she would 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.080 not be as powerful as she is. 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:18.160 Well, it's so hard about recognizing that. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.440 That's a good question, that's the good question. The problem 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:26.520 is we weren't known them to recognize it. For us, Okay. See, 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:31.840 you can never obtain your freedom if you have adopted 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:37.120 the value system of your oppressor. When you adopt the 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:43.360 value system of your oppressor, you devalue yourself. Why because 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.960 it's obvious he don't see no value in you. If 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.720 he did, he would not have been oppressing you. So 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.280 what we have to do as a people is we 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.600 have to go back to basics and we have to 0:02:55.720 --> 0:03:01.639 redefine what is valuable to us. See, we were talk 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.520 for a very long time. Go to school, get education, 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:09.880 get a job, get a house, get you a nice call. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:15.519 And this is the mundane formula that pretty much has 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.320 not worked for us. But these are the things that 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.840 we have been taught to value. We must first learn 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:27.800 to value character. We must learn to value spirituality. We 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:32.080 must learn to value economics, but from a perspective where 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:37.160 we invest in assets, not in liabilities. And the thing 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.800 that we really have to learn to value, brother will 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:44.200 is each other. I say it all the time. You 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.840 know the future of black people is not dependent upon 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:49.840 how white people see black people. The future of black 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.760 people is dependent upon how black people see black people. 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:57.720 Talk talk to me. This is why I get soul 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:05.720 with these people who jump on the internet. Black people 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.120 who jump on the internet. See, that's why we can't 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:11.160 never were the worst, We our own worst enemy. 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:12.880 We wooh wooh wooh wooh woop. 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:19.880 And you know, seeking validation and also just being basically 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:24.760 indoctrinated like everybody else, to view themselves as a lower class, 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:29.159 as someone who is unworthy. And they think they make sense. 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:32.320 They think they're smart when they say things like that. See, 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.120 that's why you know black people with black people, is 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:38.080 it black people that we have to be very careful 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:45.960 of who's helping and who's critiquing because there's a lot 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.000 of black people out there all day long. All they 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:53.440 do is critique black people, the black experience right, black 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.560 community and black distance black people this and black black 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.440 black of the black of the black black. But they 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.680 ain't gotten no smoke. They ain't got no critique for nobody. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.800 Everybody else must be perfect. It's all they focus on 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:10.840 is trying to critique black people, not helping, I said, critiquing, critiquing. 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.960 All they do. Their whole focus is critiquing. I want 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:18.159 to go back to something that you mentioned about adopting 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:25.839 the value system of your oppressor. That can also be 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:34.240 levied against relationships. Yeah, Like I've heard men say, well 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.239 women do it, And I mean when I say women 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.120 do it, it's something that that is out of character, 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:44.720 you know, that is not popular, something that's that's foul. 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.960 They'll say, well, women do it. And now I've heard 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:51.520 women say will men do it? Like again, these are 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.680 when they say when men do it, they're assuming the 0:05:54.839 --> 0:06:01.320 value the value system of their person oppressor, whoever that 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.800 person is, is a presser who they feel like has 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:08.080 oppressed them in some kind of way. I don't understand 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:15.040 the stooping to a level where you you abandon your values, 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:22.320 you abandon your attributes to acquiesce to somebody else's shortcomings. 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:28.200 Exactly. See what happens is we've adopted the same mentality 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:33.760 toward relationships as our oppressor. Black people have what I 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:38.800 call a versus mentality, meaning that it always has to 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:44.520 be this rapper versus that rapper, who's your favorite, or 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:49.240 this television show, this idea, whatever it is. It's a 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:56.080 versus mentality, and whoever wins the versus whoever comes in 0:06:56.200 --> 0:07:03.360 second is irrelative. Right now, talking to a black child, 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:08.359 a black child will say something like, you know, my 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:13.679 mama did more for me than my daddy. My question 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:18.040 to that child is who taught you to compare? If 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.960 you say your mother did more for you, you're admitting 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:26.200 that your dad has done something for you. Am I correct? 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:30.200 But you want the man to compare or compete with 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:34.080 the woman who laid on an operating table, a delivery table, 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:39.080 and went to death's door to give you birth? Okay, 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:45.400 But the question is who taught you to compare what 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:49.600 your dad did for you. May God bless him, because 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.480 it attributed to who you became, if you became somebody successful, 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:58.440 what your mother did for you. It's beautiful. It attributed 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:02.920 to you know who you are are if you became successful. 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:08.720 But to make the comparative analysis between it's my daddy 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.760 versus my mama. See, this is something that we've been 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:15.560 programmed to do. That we got to get out of 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.920 two black coffee shops on the same corner. Which one 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.000 do you like this one versus that one? Well, they 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.000 put a little too much sugar in theirs. What their 0:08:26.040 --> 0:08:30.200 coffee is fifteen cents a little bit more expensive than this. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:36.680 We're always finding a reason to be divided, and it's 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:41.160 the Willy Lynch mentality. The slave mentality that teaches us 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:45.560 to denegrate and degrade all things that are black. So 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:51.520 what we do is we perpetuate the myth of black inferiority. See, 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.040 we talk a lot about black white Excuse me, we 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.559 talk a lot about white supremacy, but we don't talk 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:04.160 about how you can I have white supremacy without including 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:08.839 the myth of black inferiority. Black inferiority is what gives 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:13.120 white supremacy its oxygen. So when somebody is on the 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:18.640 Internet just scroll and looking for something black to criticize 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:23.880 and to critique, they're perpetuating the myth of black inferiority. 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:28.480 And as long as the myth of black inferiority is perpetuated, 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.120 we can never be free as a people because we 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:36.640 are then still adopting the value system of our oppressor. 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:44.960 Man, let's talk about Professor Griff the Good Brother, Professor. 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.559 Griff Salama Lacam Brother, Professor Griff. 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:53.040 Lacam Man, Professor Griff is necessary. I came across a 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:57.720 video from twenty twelve. Professor Griff, I like to go 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.880 back in the annals of history the time and just 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:07.160 see how certain ideologies match up in present day. Right, 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:12.920 So I'm watching this video clip of Professor Griff making 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.880 an assessment of hip hop, and he's talking about how 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:26.720 these white kids who are the offsprings of the white executive, 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:32.360 the executives and hip hop had started their own subsidiaries 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:37.400 and one of the goals was to normalize the inward 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:46.040 and one of the goals was also to emasculate black males. 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:54.440 And Professor Griff predicted, he predicted that black males would 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:59.280 be running around with purses and wearing skirts. They'll have 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.960 these man versus and wearing skirts. And we see it 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.320 in sports, yes, sir, we see it in hip hop. Yeah, 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:11.280 we see it in politics even and even in the streets. 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.680 What's your take on metrosexuality and hip hop? 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:23.319 That's a very good question. I really don't even know 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:29.240 what the term metrosexuality means, but from my understanding of 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.520 the term, my take on it is I think it's 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:36.560 very dangerous. I think when you begin to blur the 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:44.160 lines between manhood and femininity, then what you do is 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:49.280 you begin to weaken the pool of men. In our culture. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:55.360 There are certain things that are said done, certain clothing 0:11:55.440 --> 0:12:00.360 and items that are worn. Nowadays, you couldn't get you 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.440 couldn't get away with wearing a purse back in the 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.560 nineties when we were listening to you know Nwa. But 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:13.440 I believe that Professor griff was not only onto something. 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:19.280 I believe that his mathematical calculation of what would be 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:24.560 is now our reality. And I do believe that this 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:29.240 was planned. I believe that there was a concerted effort 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:36.400 to dehumanize, demonize, and emasculate the black male. Because as 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:41.000 long as the black man is weakened, the black woman 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:45.000 is fair game. As long as the black man is weakened, 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.520 then there's no one there to protect black children. As 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.319 long as the black man is weakened, the black community 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:59.120 is like dust. What is dust? Dust is a particle 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:02.720 of matter that used to be tied to something that 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:09.080 had a function. So if you weaken and break down 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:15.600 the black man, then black people are defenseless. And this 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:20.040 is where we will find ourselves if real men don't 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:25.600 stand up in our community and protect and defend first 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:30.640 and foremost, the dignity of our ancestors, the dignity of 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.440 our history, the dignity of our women, the dignity of 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:39.280 our elders, the dignity of our children. We need strong men, 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:46.280 not emasculated men. But another reason that I believe that, 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:51.679 particularly in hip hop, that it was important to emasculate 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:56.320 the male in hip hop is because an emasculated man 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:00.560 is easier to steal from It's easier to take from him. 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.800 So it's not a coincidence that you see the intellectual 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:10.600 property of our rappers flying out the door. You know 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.800 how when you go to a funeral and they have 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.520 the doves, and as soon as they unlock that cage, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:20.160 the dove just takes off and never returns. That is 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:25.600 how fast and how far the intellectual property of our 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.320 great artists is flying out of our culture. And so 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:39.200 you've got wealthy white families who are passing on the 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.920 publishing of some of our greatest rappers to their children 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:48.800 and grandchildren. Think about that our intellectual property have become 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:54.120 their assets. And I think that that in and of 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.200 itself is a form of emasculation. And it's not okay, 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:04.480 you know what, because your intellectual property starts with your ideas. 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.160 Where do your ideas come from? If you got a 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.920 unique idea, that idea came from God, if you didn't 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:16.000 steal it from somebody else, it came from God and 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.240 it's given to you to express through your God given 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:23.600 talent that should belong to you. But if you have 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:28.520 been weakened and emasculated, it's easier for somebody to come 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.400 and take it and you not say a damn thing 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:32.080 about it. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.720 Little boys, reloaded podcasts will be right back after this week. 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:48.960 You spoke at length about generational wealth, and that's what basically, 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.880 when you're passing down assets from generation to generation, from 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:58.120 your kids to your grandkids and so on, that's generational 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:05.280 meaning meaning extended periods. Right. So I made a post recently. 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:07.520 I don't know if you saw it. I need Okay, Well, 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.160 this guy is talking about generational wealth and he says 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:14.840 that it's become a catchphrase basically, and that you know, 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.800 it's a marketing ploy, it's what he said something like that, 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:22.280 and that he hates through word generational wealth because it 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:26.520 puts undue pressure on black people to set up the 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.960 generations after them, and this is why people are doing 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.000 PPP loans and stuff to try to get generational wealth. 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:42.520 And I was actually very I guess pleased that most 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.720 of the people that was in the comments wrote that 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:51.840 off like it's the most ridiculous thing that they've ever heard. 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:56.240 Why is it difficult for some people to wrap their 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.640 head around some people, and I'll say specifically Black people, 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:03.560 to wrap their head around the importance of generational. 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:10.520 Wealth because we have adopted the value system of our ancestors, 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:17.120 and our ancestors never saw fit or never thought that 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.320 we as a people should have anything. 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.080 But I mean, you're speaking not not You're not speaking 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.199 about all of our ancestors though, because many of our 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:28.639 ancestors did make way for their their children. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.920 Yeah, but they had to get it out the mud. 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:34.680 You understand. What did I say, ancestors are oppressor? 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.919 Well, even if we look at the oppressor, you know, 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.560 like I mean, they've done pretty well. If you think 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:43.840 about the Rockefellers and the Walters and the you know, 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.560 the you know, any any of them. I mean even 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.480 even you know, if you look at I hate to 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.399 say his name, but even look at the Trumps. You 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.000 know what I'm saying. You look at them, you look 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:59.560 at other families, the bodies, yeah more recently, but even 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:05.040 the Bush right, But they are the Hilton's passing it down, 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:09.280 passing it down because the generational the way you achieve 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:14.119 a generational wealth is you know, you're having assets. You 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.760 know you have you have assets that where you uh, 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:20.040 don't have to touch the principle. You're making so much 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.320 money you never have to touch the principle and you 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.679 pass that down and that's how you get to it. 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:28.840 That's how you can say that, you know, Okay, we've 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.719 set it up to where the generations after us are 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.399 going to have it and we don't have to worry 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.560 about that, right. But on the flip side of that 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.680 is that I think one of the reasons why we 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:46.800 don't get it is because we've been so wrapped up 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:51.240 and just trying to survive. Every every one of our 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:57.200 generations have had to face some type of oppression and 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:00.080 and we've have to you know, we've we've have to 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.600 try to walk through these minds, these these mind fields. 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:06.800 You know what I'm saying, it's booby traps everywhere, and 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:08.960 a lot of it I think is just trying to 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.919 you know, we've been focused on just surviving. Right now, 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.159 this is probably our richest generation right now, Like we 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.800 got money like out the anus, but we're not producing, 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:21.800 we're consuming. 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:27.400 Yeah, but we have money, but do most of us 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:31.080 have wealth and I think that's the term that we 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:36.600 have to look at more carefully because generational wealth most 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:44.760 certainly represents assets, which includes money, real estate, stocks, bonds, 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:51.199 like you say, anything that produces property, right property. But 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.800 that's not the only thing that makes you wealthy. Now, 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.520 I don't want to get away from the economics. And 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.399 that's why I said, it's because we have a opted 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:06.399 the value system of our oppressor, meaning that they never 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:11.639 thought that black people were worthy of having anything. And 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.800 if you, as a black person, even in twenty twenty three, 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:19.280 adopt the value system of your oppressor, you still don't 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:23.760 think that black people are worth having anything. See, we 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:28.960 don't know how deep this self hatred thing goes. See 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:34.240 you have some black people who have an opportunity for 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:40.120 upward mobility, and sometimes they'll sabotage it because they don't 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:43.359 believe that they deserve it. They may never admit it, 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:46.960 but they'll sabotage it because they don't believe that they 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:51.080 deserve it. If you hate your children, then you don't 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:55.040 give a damn about passing anything on to them. You 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:56.960 feel like they need to get it out at the 0:20:57.080 --> 0:21:01.320 mud just like you. So it owes back to knowledge 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:04.280 of self. It goes back to love for self, and 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:08.720 it goes back to reconfiguring our value system. We got 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:11.479 to learn to see each other the way God sees 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:14.919 us and not the way white people saw us and 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:18.520 still see us to this very day. But I think 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:28.440 generational wealth should also include health. Generational health because if 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:33.280 you have a diet that flirts with diabetes, if you 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:37.120 got a diet that flirts with heart disease, if you're 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.960 raising your children on a diet that flirts with cancer, 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.920 and you know you've got these things in your family, 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:48.400 well you may not necessarily be passing down the disease 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:51.600 to the next generation, but when you pass down those 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:56.600 eating habits, you are in turn passing down that disease 0:21:56.960 --> 0:22:06.280 to the next generation. So generational wealth should also include health. 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:11.399 It should include knowledge. We got to pass down the 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:16.359 history to our children, and you know, all of those 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:21.240 things that make one truly wealthy, because let's just be honest. 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.719 We talked about the rock Rockefellers, we talked about the Trumps, 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:27.800 we talked about you know, the Warburgs, and all of 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:33.600 these other families that literally rule the world. But some 0:22:33.680 --> 0:22:38.480 of them are in hell they're wealthy, but they are 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:41.840 in hell, and so I see a lot of billionaires 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:45.200 will who are saying, you know what, all this money 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:48.200 I made, I rather donate it to charity because they 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:52.800 see that the money, the resources, and the relationship ships 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.040 have done more to ruin their children than to help 0:22:56.080 --> 0:23:01.080 their children. So I do think that we you definitely 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:07.119 need to focus on generational wealth as individuals, but we 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:11.359 also have to focus on generational wealth as a collective 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:16.000 of black people. We got to focus on generational wealth 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:16.679 as a people. 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:21.119 I'm with that. With that, I was watching this video 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:26.000 of this woman out and bat and rouge. She had 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.159 jumped the bus driver with her two daughters, a thirteen 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.080 year old and eighteen year old. I mean, they beat 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:34.520 the hell out of the bus driver, a female bus driver. 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.840 You know, I don't even know what the fight was about, 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:44.400 but they jumped her, beat the brakes off of her. 0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:52.359 Is there a way that we can like protect these 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:54.960 bus drivers, because this is not the first fight that 0:23:55.000 --> 0:23:57.880 I've seen on the bus with parents jumping the bus 0:23:57.920 --> 0:24:02.000 driver or students jumping bus drivers. Is that something that 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:06.159 can be done besides having an armed police officer with 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:08.520 an AK forty seven standing at the front of the bus. 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.440 Is that something that can be done to protect these 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:12.400 bus drivers. 0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.959 That's a very good question. You know, bus drivers are 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:22.199 being attacked, teachers are being attacked, pepper sprayed and so 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:27.480 on and so forth. That's a good question. Will I 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:32.160 do think that you need on site security not only 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:37.040 at the schools, but you need on site security at 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:40.960 at you know, on these buses, not just to protect 0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:45.560 the administrations, but to protect the students as well. 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:47.040 Should they have guns. 0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:51.080 They I don't. I don't think that it is necessary 0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:55.520 for all of them to be armed, or any of 0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:57.679 them to be armed. I guess it just depends on 0:24:57.720 --> 0:25:04.520 the situation. But you need security who have the mindset 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:08.960 of security being prevention. Now I'm a trained you know, 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:13.520 security guide in the FOI. So when we go into 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:16.879 the projects and when we go into the schools, we 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:22.080 try to build relationships with the children so that we 0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:26.040 can catch a problem before the problem becomes a problem, 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:29.000 if you understand what I'm saying. So there has to 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:31.600 be security in there that that that that that that 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:38.399 kind of unifies the element brings everybody together and that 0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:42.679 can work that situation. But right now, the reality in 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:50.600 America is bro there's so much pressure in America right 0:25:50.640 --> 0:25:58.639 now mentally on people emotionally. Do you realize that we 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:03.360 just reached over it. Two hundred mass shootings in this country. 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.920 We're not even on the two hundredth day of the year. 0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:12.320 And so the culture of violence in that America has 0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:15.440 promoted for years because this country was built on violence, 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:19.480 is coming back to hunt the country and it is 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:25.240 destroying the country from within. So I do believe that 0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:30.320 there should be security at these schools. I don't think 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:34.960 that because they already have armed security with police officers right, 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:38.959 that's obviously not working. But I think we need the 0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:42.600 type of security that could unify the campus, the type 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:46.600 of security that can make certain that these children have 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.920 a voice, and that can come in and do what's 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:54.480 called conflict resolution. The problem is to catch the problem 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:56.119 before it gets out of hand. 0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:01.840 Yeah, yeah, sort of like when you're out as an artist. 0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:06.480 The best security is the security that doesn't have to fight, 0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:09.880 the security that doesn't have to, you know, dodge bullets 0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:14.359 and stuff. Because they're focused on prevention. They can see 0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.760 things happening, They can see things that might happen, that 0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:21.800 could happen, So they go in and they secure the 0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:26.240 VIP they secure the entire room or club or venue 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:30.879 or whatever. They make sure that they know the easy end, 0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.520 the easy out, and it's fast, it's moving like that 0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:37.640 boom boom. That's that's good security. These guys that come 0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.240 in they put the gloves on and walk in like 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.920 this and they got the menace in face. When when 0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.119 your patrons come up to the door or whatever, and 0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:49.320 are they walking in with their client and their mean 0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.720 mugging people get out the way. These are horrible security people. 0:27:53.040 --> 0:27:57.800 They got thet they got the wrong idea about about security. 0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:04.159 But speaking to secure in schools, it hasn't worked. I 0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:10.160 think primarily because of what you said. These people that 0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.560 work in these schools are not invested in the community, 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.560 do you guys in the FOI are invested in the community. 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:19.879 In fact, you started, you know this security detail so 0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:23.680 that you know with your people in mind, like I'm 0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.720 going to protect my people. I don't want to you 0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.560 going in like I don't want no problems with my people. 0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:32.720 I don't want to put my hands on anybody. That's 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.000 the last thing that I want to do. A lot 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:39.120 of these security people that they hire, they go in 0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.280 and that's the first thing they want to do. They 0:28:42.280 --> 0:28:44.960 want to put their hands on our babies, right, they 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:46.800 look into it. And I'm not saying that some of 0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.760 these kids are not wild, right, They're not wild and 0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:52.280 out of control or whatever, and they don't need to 0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:56.000 be restrained in some kind of way. But restraint is 0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:58.880 different from just beating their breaks off kids and picking 0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:00.760 them up and slamming them down and all that. They 0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.280 don't have to do that, and I've seen that happen many, many, 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:08.680 many times, and I think this, it's very, very dangerous 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.000 to have these type of people around our kids. And 0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:15.800 I suspect that's what they have on those buses, if 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:19.280 they put armed security on those buses, and if they 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:24.160 continue to put armed security in these schools. I've seen 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.840 in some situations where they've dialed back. You know, with 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:29.480 these resource offices, what. 0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:32.040 They need to do is they have to send someone 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:37.280 from the community who understands the plight of these young 0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:41.200 brothers and sisters. You know, I grew up in the 0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:45.360 projects myself for the better part of my childhood. My 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:50.000 mother had a very very terrible drug problem, So I 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:54.440 know what it's like growing up in household with a 0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:58.880 mother or a parent who has a substance abuse issue 0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:06.360 that renders him or her powerless, meaning that they don't 0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.600 know how to be a mother under these conditions, don't 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.160 know how to be a father under conditions. But I 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:15.920 still had to go to school. So when I hauled 0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:19.440 off and stole somebody in the jaw, you know, back 0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:23.280 in the day, it may not be that what that 0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.560 person did or said to me was really, you know, 0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:30.360 that bad. But I was a ticking time bomb. 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:31.120 Man. 0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.720 I was talking to a young lady the other day, 0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:37.000 and she's a young lady. She's in school, she's doing 0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:40.320 well for herself, and she started talking about her parents, 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.600 and she talked about how her mother passed away when 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:47.600 she was four years old and how she's never gotten 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:51.680 over that. So I said, what about your dad? She said, oh, 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:55.960 I don't have no good relationship with him either. So 0:30:56.000 --> 0:31:00.920 I made the mistake of asking why. She said, well, 0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:03.120 you know, when I was a senior in high school, 0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:07.320 I had to start dancing. I say, dancing, what you mean, 0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:10.400 dancing on the dance team on the football field. She 0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:15.120 started laughing. No, I started stripping. I said, okay, she said, 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.920 but my dad got mad at me because I wouldn't 0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:23.120 allow him to manage my money. So I got kicked 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.680 out the house. I said, this is your biological father. 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:31.480 She said, yeah, a child that's going through something like that. 0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.960 What kind of mindset do you think she's gonna have 0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.560 when she goes to school? You think she really give 0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:43.320 a damn that Abraham Lincoln quote unquote free the slaves. See, 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:47.840 you gotta have somebody in the school that understands what 0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:52.720 she's going through and has the kind of compassion where 0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:57.200 they can reach her. You know, that can de escalate 0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.320 a situation, that could see it before it's you know 0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:01.720 how it is back in the day when we was 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:03.760 in the club, you could just feel when somebody was 0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:07.120 about to start shooting. It's a sixth sense that you 0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:11.640 have for your own people. And if you bring a 0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:17.000 police officer from you know, the Woods, cut and Shoot 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:20.520 Texas or whatever into a school in the hood, you 0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:23.520 give him a badge, you give him a gun, and 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:27.040 you tell him, I need you to tame these wild 0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:31.600 animals in here. That's what he's there to do. He's 0:32:31.640 --> 0:32:36.320 not there to de escalate. He's there to be a 0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.520 force to either lock them up or get them kicked out. 0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.240 So there's just not enough compassion in the schools for 0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.920 what these children are going through. Now, that does not 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:51.320 excuse you putting your hands on somebody. That's a whole different, 0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:56.800 you know, conversation. But the schools have become clownhouses, brother 0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:02.120 will and I hate to say it, but all they 0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:06.160 doing is babysitting half the time. In some cases, when 0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:08.480 you walk through these schools, you feel like you are 0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:11.880 in a prison because that's what the atmosphere feels like. 0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:16.560 But every now and then there are a few teachers 0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:20.920 in that school that makes that place worth going for 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.320 the students, and we just need more of that. 0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:31.440 So would a good solution be to start early, like 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:35.960 start like get reaching these kids at pre k kindergarten. 0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.640 And you're doing that, but you're also dealing with what's 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.880 happening in real time right with the kids of age. 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:46.520 Because it's very possible to walk into bubblegum. You know, 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:48.320 two things can be true at a time at the 0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:52.520 same time, two things can be done to attack a 0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:57.680 problem at once. Oftentimes we tend to say, hey, it's 0:33:57.720 --> 0:33:59.560 one way or the other, not the one thing or 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:03.960 that's it. And we love putting band aids on gun. 0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.960 Shaps exactly exactly exactly. I think one of the problems 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:12.799 is the school is more of a factory where they 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:15.440 just send everybody through the same process, no matter what 0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:20.200 might be going on at home. I think that more 0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:24.440 has to be done to identify the needs of each 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:25.520 particular student. 0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.160 But we're under attack though, if you think about it, 0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:32.840 we're under attack because the schools are actually operating exactly 0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:36.200 how they intended for them to operate. The fights with 0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:40.120 the kids and the schools, the kids fighting, the teachers 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:45.440 fighting the bus drivers, this was planned, brother, This is 0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.520 all part of the agenda the school. 0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.920 To pine exactly. 0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.680 It's part of the whole thing. You know, you're disciplining 0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:56.239 your kids, they can call the police. I'm not even 0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.960 talking about beating kids to where they skin break. I'm 0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.880 just saying you can't even touch a catch child. The 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:06.520 kid got the phone, right, Donald, I'm a call. So 0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:09.279 they already know you take the discipline out of out 0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:13.400 of the home. They already know what's going to happen, exactly, 0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:16.279 And so I think that it's breaking exactly the way 0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:20.000 that they intended to intended for it to work. And 0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.839 I think in order for us to counter it, we're 0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:28.000 going to have to have think tank groups, think tank groups. 0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:33.960 Just like they have think tank groups to implement programs 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:38.760 and initiatives to harm us, we have to have think 0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:45.160 tank groups to implement initiatives to counter theirs and to 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.239 improve our situations. You know, like we have to be 0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.120 ready for that and strike it down before it ever 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.600 becomes law, because you know, they'll go in the back 0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.239 room and make a lawry like write a lawteryal quick 0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:58.439 and boom, and now that it's law, it don't matter 0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:02.480 how foul or the gender it is, they run with 0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:04.600 it because you know, we got some people who are 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:06.839 just programmed and say, well, you know, that's the law 0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:08.680 and the law. 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:13.120 Right, especially when that the law works to their advantage. 0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.120 They love to lean on the law when it works 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.840 to their advantage. When it doesn't work to their advantage, 0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.080 they just go change the law like changing the pair 0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:25.600 draws right, you know. But I believe that I agree 0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:29.640 we need think tank groups, but we also need we 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:33.040 need execution, And I agree, but that would. 0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.640 Agree, I mean that would include execution. 0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:40.799 Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, And if we first of all, we 0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.360 have to accept the fact that there is a school 0:36:43.360 --> 0:36:47.120 to prison pipeline. Some of us are still in denial. 0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:52.440 And if the think tank group is to try to 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:57.160 counter that, well, what does the CounterPunch look like? School 0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.400 to prison pipeline? So how do we create a school 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:05.959 to purpose pipeline. That's the way that thought process would work. 0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:10.640 But we are at a point that's so critical right now, 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:15.840 Brother Will that I don't think that we can any 0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:21.560 longer get around what the most honorable Elijah Muhammad taught 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.719 that we should do, and that is for us to 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:30.759 position ourselves to teach and educate our own children. Ultimately, 0:37:31.480 --> 0:37:35.520 if we want to be able to control the education 0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:39.080 in our community, we got to open up our own schools. 0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.359 And it's not something that cannot be done. It is 0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:46.360 being done on a smaller scale. But we as a 0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:51.440 people have to realize that just as our great brother 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.920 said that you cannot expect justice from a system that 0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.800 was not created to give you that in the first place, 0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:05.960 that was WB do, you can't expect education from a 0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:10.040 system that was not created to give you an education 0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:15.680 that empowers you. Let's be honest. The American education system 0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:23.560 was designed to create a population of employees, a population 0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:28.279 of workers. So everywhere you have in HBCU, when I 0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:32.600 speak at HBCUs, I tell them, you know, it's not 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:36.680 a coincidence that they teach you in HBCUs how to 0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:40.759 go and conduct yourself in an interview. They tell you 0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:44.080 what to wear, how to talk, how to sit, you know, 0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:47.319 whether you should wear your natural hair or not. They 0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:50.120 teach you what to do to go and get a job, 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:54.759 but they don't teach enough how you can take your 0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:57.359 gifts and your talents and your knowledge to go and 0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:00.440 make a job for yourself. But right up the street 0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:06.399 at the PWU, they're teaching them how to be CEOs. 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:11.440 At Harvard, they're teaching them how to be CEOs. And 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:17.000 the goal is for the HBCU graduate to have to 0:39:17.040 --> 0:39:21.000 go to the Harvard graduate to get a job. And 0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:25.160 we have to circumvent that. We have to circumvint that. 0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.400 So in this particular, there are two educational systems in America. 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:33.200 One is for black and poor people, all right, And 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:37.319 in this educational system you're taught how to become an employee. 0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:41.759 But in the elite educational system, they teach you how 0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:46.000 to become president. Even if you're a dummy, you can 0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:49.279 be a c student. Look at George Bush Junior is 0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:54.400 George Bush Junior or was either third? I don't know. Yeah, Junior, 0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:57.399 how do you become the president and you are a 0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:58.200 C student? 0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:03.560 You dumb like Trump? Just a regular dummy like Trump, 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:07.920 you know with the hugest word that he can use 0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:08.480 is huge. 0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:14.799 Yeah, it's it's it's classism for that, and it's a 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:19.440 cast system. So in order for us to escape it, 0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.400 we have to create what in the Nation of Islam 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:28.000 is called a new educational paradigm. That means that we 0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.880 have to do away with the old way, with the 0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:35.160 European way, with the American way of educating black children, 0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.440 and get the best and brightest of our educators and 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:41.880 teachers together and find a way to create our own 0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:45.920 curriculum and educate our own children. That's the only way 0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:47.360 they'll reach their full potential. 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:59.359 Little boys reloaded podcasts which we break back after this week. Now, 0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:04.800 you know, once that movement starts to happen, that America 0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:08.359 is going to dangle the bag in front of the 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.400 educators and say, hey, come on over here. You know, 0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.680 they're gonna try to steal our educators and put them 0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:18.480 right back into that system, that oppressive system, you know, 0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.560 like and so it goes it goes back to the money, 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.160 because that's to go. It's always to go to snatch 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.520 up our best. As soon as they see one of 0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.400 us rising, and they see one of us, we articulate, 0:41:29.440 --> 0:41:33.360 we can we're charismatic, we're smart. You know we can, 0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.480 we can lead. They try to pluck you up and 0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:38.960 get you to go work for them and so that 0:41:39.000 --> 0:41:42.040 they can neutralize your progression, so that you can't help 0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.799 your own people. See, once they take you from your 0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.080 people and put you over there, then now you're in 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:50.879 the system, and now you working for them, and now 0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:54.399 they control you. And then you know, once you do that, 0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.200 you know, you kind of get comfortable with that paycheck 0:41:57.320 --> 0:42:00.439 and that status that you have over there, and that's 0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:03.480 why you turn your back on your own people and say, man, 0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.640 I got it out the mud I did for myself. 0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:07.719 Get it like I got it. I ain't going back 0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:11.520 over there. But everybody goes back, even if they're not 0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:15.960 going and hanging out on the block. They're stroking a check. Everybody, 0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:22.160 all of the all of the groups out there, give back. Financially, 0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.200 they couldn't survive, they couldn't even make it. They couldn't 0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:28.920 even make it without doing that. It's expected, but they 0:42:28.960 --> 0:42:33.640 want to do it, and it's expected. Let's cover this. 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:40.800 Let's cover this, this extant Thasian case. Exton Than's killer 0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:45.680 was addressed by the judge. One of his killers, you know, 0:42:45.719 --> 0:42:49.800 he had, three of them were sentenced to life in prison. 0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.160 Just the little brother that got killed in Florida. 0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:58.080 Yes, right, very very talented dude, I mean broke more 0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:00.680 heart man. I heard it was special, very talented, mean, 0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:07.520 just just exceptional, very wise for his age. And for 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:11.040 him to get gunned down in a robbery because somebody 0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:14.920 wanted his money that he worked for. Uh, it was 0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:21.160 just it was it was hurtful. But the judge, as 0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:27.440 he's sentencing one of the killers, Michael boltwright, he's he's 0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:35.840 describing this mundaneans, the mundaneness of what the prison experience 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:40.080 is going to look like for him doing life in prison. 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:44.640 And the judge said, when you took that gun and 0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:50.360 you discuided to squeeze that trigger, you effectively ended five lives, 0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:57.799 including your own. And he said for the next he said, 0:43:57.880 --> 0:44:02.000 he said, you know, every when you leave here talking 0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:07.640 about the courtroom, when you leave here, and I'm obviously paraphrasing, 0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:11.920 but when you leave here, you're going to be taken 0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:17.239 to a prison where you'll spend every day, where you'll 0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:24.600 spend every hour, every day, every week, every year in 0:44:24.640 --> 0:44:28.480 that cell. And then one day they're going to come 0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:32.920 in in the morning and you will have passed on 0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:40.880 and they'll come get you, and only then will you 0:44:41.120 --> 0:44:46.200 have served your sentence. But he also described the jail cell. 0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:52.799 He said, you're going to spend every hour, every day, 0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:57.960 every week, every year in that cell. And you're going 0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:03.040 to have a and iron what he said, in a 0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:09.680 metal bed, a metal bed attached to a wall, and 0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:14.800 you also have a metal sink and a metal toilet. 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.040 That'll be your furniture for the rest of your life. 0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:22.400 And you could you could see dude with all that 0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:24.960 postureing he had been doing. I saw him laughing, like 0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:28.040 you know, a week or so ago and and trial, 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:32.160 but all of that was gone. I think if it 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:37.600 finally hit him, this is my life. Think about that. 0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:41.120 Like we got furniture at home, sometimes we get we 0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:43.279 get tired of the furniture within a few months, be 0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:46.080 ready to change, move stuff around, at the very least 0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.080 moving around. I can't stand looking at this like this 0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:51.799 any longer. But that's his furniture for the rest of 0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:56.719 his life. And in Florida, life is life. Yeah, yeah, 0:45:57.040 --> 0:46:03.359 so what And the program that you run is what's 0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:06.120 the name of it, smart Enough, smart Enough Black Male Summit, 0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:09.000 the Black Male Summit, smart Enough, where you work with 0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:13.080 these black males, many of them who are at risk. 0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:13.919 Yes, sir. 0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:19.200 What is it that you tell them? And what is 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:21.880 it that you teach them? What do you show them 0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:27.759 to avoid ending up in a situation like Michael Bolt 0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:29.600 writing those others who killed. 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:35.160 Ex Yes, sir, We try to make it clear to 0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:40.080 them that the most profound the most profound form of 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:47.319 mathematics is not algebra, it's not trigonometry. The most profound 0:46:47.480 --> 0:46:55.600 form of mathematics is being able to calculate future consequences 0:46:55.640 --> 0:47:00.359 for current decisions. See in that moment, that young man 0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:08.080 who killed x extent Tashion was calculating the future consequences 0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:12.000 of his actions, and he was asking himself the question 0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:17.799 was it worth it? Was it worth it? See? When 0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:22.920 the clown is at the circus and the crowd is there, 0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:28.360 he feels useful, he feels important, he feels relevant because 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:34.440 he's entertaining the crowd. But when the crowd is gone, 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:38.200 and the clown looks in the mirror he realizes what 0:47:38.320 --> 0:47:46.960 he is. A clown. Wow, a crash dummy. In that moment, 0:47:47.719 --> 0:47:51.839 standing in front of that judge, he realized what he 0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:55.239 really was. You ain't no damn killer, You ain't no 0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:59.839 damn goon, You ain't no damn gang member. You ain't 0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:04.360 no no damn step up. Use a clown right now. 0:48:06.040 --> 0:48:09.839 And the crowd is gone, The people that you were 0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:14.799 dancing for gone. You wanted to rob him so that 0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:18.319 you could buy a car to impress the crowd, so 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:21.520 you could buy the clothes to impress the crowd. But 0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:25.680 the crowd is gone. Now you're left alone, which is 0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:30.879 you and the consequences of your actions. So we try 0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:34.000 to get through to these young brothers that this ain't 0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:40.040 no damn game. We out here playing for keeps, and 0:48:42.440 --> 0:48:45.560 a crash dummy is somebody who was willing to do 0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:50.360 anything to be accepted as somebody that he was not 0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:55.000 born to be. So we have to be about the 0:48:55.040 --> 0:49:00.000 business of trying to create options for these young brother 0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:04.080 When people see Willie d drive by in that nice 0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:08.439 vehicle that I passed by on the way in, When 0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:12.839 the youngster see you drive by. Yeah, I want that, 0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:18.480 And there's nothing wrong with them wanting that. But what 0:49:18.520 --> 0:49:24.400 they have to understand is that that didn't come free. 0:49:24.600 --> 0:49:30.279 That came with blood, sweat, tears, and years. And that's 0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:34.200 what we're trying to teach them, that the long game 0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:38.120 is better than the short game. See. The long game 0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:42.640 puts you in a position where you can create generational wealth. 0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:47.319 But the short game trying to rob somebody of their 0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:52.040 hard earned money. The short game robbing a damn liquor 0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:55.920 store and people don't even care cash no more, talk 0:49:55.960 --> 0:50:00.040 about a crash dummy. The short game selling poison and 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:03.720 pushing poison into your community, and the same dope fiend 0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:06.200 that you're selling the poison to might come back and 0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:07.960 blow your damn head off when he don't have the 0:50:08.040 --> 0:50:12.480 money to get the dope from you. See, the short 0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:16.040 game will cause you to pass on generational hell. Not 0:50:16.200 --> 0:50:21.080 generational wealth, but generational hell. Because guess what if you 0:50:21.160 --> 0:50:24.280 go to prison and you got to do thirty years, 0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.360 and let's say you got a child on the way, 0:50:29.080 --> 0:50:32.719 that child does every last one of them, every day 0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:36.200 of that thirty years with you, that child doing time too, 0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:42.560 because they're out here unprotected, not cared for. You're not 0:50:42.680 --> 0:50:45.640 in a position where you can provide for your child, 0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:51.480 so they doing time too. So these are some of 0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:53.359 the things that we try to get over to these 0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:58.360 young brothers. You know that your life is way worth 0:50:58.520 --> 0:51:01.239 It's worth way more then what it is that you 0:51:01.400 --> 0:51:04.960 think you're gonna get trying to take some from somebody, 0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:10.520 especially after they have worked hard for what they've gotten. 0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:14.759 When I was on my way up trying to get it, 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:22.400 battling at rying stone, wrangling, Yeah, going to Joe's on 0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:31.120 Monday nights, knocking on doors, selling newspaper subscriptions and writing 0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:36.359 in between doors and waiting on my supervisor to pick 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:38.920 me up and take me to the next location. Yeah. 0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:42.280 Yeah. 0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:50.120 The entire time, I'm thinking, like I'm seeing I'm seeing 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:54.480 other guys who already got it. Yeah, but they got 0:51:54.520 --> 0:52:00.919 it by ill means. I didn't wish bad on them, 0:52:01.360 --> 0:52:05.759 but I knew that that was short term, like he 0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:08.560 probably gonna end up dead in jail, because basically, I mean, 0:52:08.560 --> 0:52:11.040 I wasn't a genius. I just looked at the odds, 0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:13.640 like everybody else that I know was going to jail 0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:16.719 and getting killed, you know, or getting aimed so that 0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:20.680 was just how it was, and I was thinking, I'm 0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:25.439 always I've always been a long, long, long term dude, 0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:28.480 a long goal, you know, like I'm always looking for 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:32.560 the big play, long play longevity. To me, it ain't 0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:36.840 how you start, it's how you end. So the little 0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:39.600 having the money for a short period of time has 0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:44.680 never interested me because I never want to be the 0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:46.560 dude who talk about what I used to do or 0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.120 what I used to have. It's like I got it now, 0:52:50.000 --> 0:52:53.160 you know. And so a lot of guys who had 0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:56.880 it then they ain't got it now. And they and 0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.040 they every time they got out, some of them, most 0:52:59.080 --> 0:53:00.919 of them, every time they got out, they went right 0:53:00.960 --> 0:53:04.640 back to the same thing, got pot, went right back 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.080 the same thing, got pop. And at the end of 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:10.440 the day, it's kind of like a gambler. At the 0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:13.080 end of the day, all you got is a lot 0:53:13.080 --> 0:53:17.319 of lost time, you down, perhaps you broke even. 0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:18.920 That's the worst thing you can lose. 0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:23.680 At the best, and for most gamblers, the best that 0:53:23.680 --> 0:53:27.680 they can hope for is to break even. Most gamblers 0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:31.359 lose lose everything. There's only a few that can say 0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:35.279 I won. But even the winners, the time that they 0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:38.920 commit to gambling, the time that they spend away from 0:53:38.960 --> 0:53:43.160 their families in the streets hustling, and the time that 0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:47.799 they spent on worrying, stressing on the money and how 0:53:47.840 --> 0:53:49.319 to get it and how to get it back and 0:53:49.360 --> 0:53:51.839 watching that back and being in that element, because that's 0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:55.880 a dark element to being in that type of environment, 0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:59.399 you know, And I've been there. That's why I could 0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:02.200 speak on it. Yeah, I did it all. Yeah, but 0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:05.400 it's definitely it was not worth it. 0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:08.239 Yeah. And in our last conversation, I don't know if 0:54:08.280 --> 0:54:12.239 it was on a podcast or a personal conversation, you 0:54:12.400 --> 0:54:16.000 talked about the moment when you decided that you wanted 0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:19.439 to live. You know, there are a lot of young 0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:22.880 brothers out here who are in such a dark place 0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:26.720 that they've not yet decided that they want to live. 0:54:28.239 --> 0:54:33.440 So they'll risk their lives trying to get a bag 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:38.600 because worst case scenario, I'll die in the process. Either 0:54:38.640 --> 0:54:43.040 I'm gonna die I'm gonna get rich. That young man 0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:45.040 who was standing in front of that jadge that you 0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:49.040 just told me about, he probably wished that he had. 0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:52.840 He would rather be dead than facing what he's facing 0:54:53.160 --> 0:54:58.080 right now, because a life sentence is essentially that your 0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:02.360 life is over. So if there are any young brothers 0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:06.000 who might be listening to us right now, make the 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:11.520 decision to live today. And once you've made the decision 0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:15.400 that you want to have a life, then God damn it, 0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:20.120 you have to adjust your lifestyle to somebody who's finna 0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:24.760 live and not somebody who fixing to die. Stop watching 0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:28.319 the clock thinking that you're gonna die tomorrow, because guess what, 0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:33.719 you just might live. And if God blesses you to 0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:37.120 stay alive, you only be able to look at the 0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:41.720 past five, ten, fifteen years and say that you made 0:55:42.000 --> 0:55:48.280 decisions that will advantageous to your future, advantageous to your children. 0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:51.399 God damn it. You know they got Mother's Day coming up. 0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:54.680 I tell people all the time. I tell brothers all 0:55:54.719 --> 0:55:57.759 the time, Hey, man, your life is your letter to 0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:02.960 your mama. Your life, that's your letter to your mama. 0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:07.520 Make sure that it is a letter that she would 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:13.040 be proud reading, whether she's dead or alive. But I 0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:16.640 said this at I said this at a conference this weekend. 0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:16.879 Bro. 0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:21.920 It was called mastering Manhood, and we were talking about 0:56:22.360 --> 0:56:25.400 we got a master manhood so we could be better 0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:28.799 fathers to our children, better husbands to our wives, better 0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:32.920 leaders to our community. And I said, yeah, that's true, 0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:36.000 that's fine, But I feel like, as black men, we 0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:39.360 have to adopt a new mindset. Yeah, we want to 0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:43.839 be better husbands, leaders, and fathers, But what about me 0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:48.320 want to do better for me? What about me wanting 0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:52.120 to be healthier for my damn self? What about me 0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:55.200 wanting to be a better person, a better man for me? 0:56:55.640 --> 0:56:59.279 We don't even think like that because we have not 0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:02.080 been taught as black men, how to even give a 0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:06.840 damn about ourselves. Why because at every turn we're judged 0:57:06.880 --> 0:57:09.200 on how we take care of other people. We're not 0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:12.000 judged on how well we take care of ourselves. But 0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:15.719 we are in a health epidemic and a health crisis 0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:18.800 as black men because we don't take care of ourselves. 0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:23.640 We're dying like ninety going north from heart disease, prostate cancer, 0:57:24.080 --> 0:57:27.720 you name it. We dying from it. You can't take 0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:32.640 care of nobody dead where y'are. You can if you 0:57:32.760 --> 0:57:36.880 leave them, you know the life insurance policy. Yeah, but 0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:39.919 if you're not here to teach them what to do 0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:43.560 with it, they still gonna end up broke. 0:57:44.160 --> 0:57:46.760 But the person that's moving reckless they're not thinking life 0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:51.000 insurance policy anyway, right, These type people, they're not thinking 0:57:51.160 --> 0:57:53.080 like that. You know, I was one of those type 0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.680 of people. You don't think about that. It's going back 0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:57.840 to what you're saying. I didn't get it. I didn't 0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:00.640 figure it out till I started caring about my life. 0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:03.520 I was like, I don't want to die like a 0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:04.120 dog in the. 0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:05.880 Street, right, And I don't want to live like a dog. 0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:09.320 And I don't I don't like a dog. 0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:10.920 I don't want to die like a dog. You know, 0:58:10.960 --> 0:58:13.600 I don't even I don't even want to, you know, 0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:16.360 put certain things in my body that I know that 0:58:16.440 --> 0:58:18.800 it's going to what you call it. You called it, 0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:25.880 uh something about diabetes. And you were saying, anyway, I. 0:58:25.800 --> 0:58:27.480 Don't want to generational health. 0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:30.280 None, No, yeah, generational health. But you was you were saying, 0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:34.800 leaning toward diabetes or something some words, some phrases use diabetic. 0:58:34.880 --> 0:58:37.440 I got you, uh uh. 0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:42.000 But I don't want to be doing all this stuff, man, 0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:44.000 and then end up at the doctor and they tell 0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:46.840 me that I got something that could have been prevented 0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:50.200 by just my lifestyle. You know, I don't want to 0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:54.160 end up in a in a wheelchair paralyzed sitting on 0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:57.000 the porch. Can't go nowhere and let somebody take me 0:58:57.800 --> 0:59:04.200 because I participated in some activities that I didn't have to, 0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:07.080 and I already know this is what comes with it, 0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:09.960 and I did it anyway. I don't want to be 0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:13.120 that dude. So it's like, once I decided that I 0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:15.480 love myself and I don't want nobody, I don't. I 0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:18.440 don't want nobody just shooting me, stabbing me. I take 0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:20.800 offense to that. I don't want to get stabbed. You know, 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:22.720 I want to get shot. I don't want to have 0:59:22.840 --> 0:59:26.640 my body maimed. You know. I love my body, so 0:59:26.880 --> 0:59:30.040 I don't want it. I don't want nobody doing anything 0:59:30.080 --> 0:59:32.600 in my body. That's why I defended so well. So 0:59:34.360 --> 0:59:37.520 once I started doing that, you love yourself first to 0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:42.280 your point, and then you can consider loving others. Right, 0:59:43.560 --> 0:59:47.080 So that's why I was with that. Man. But you 0:59:47.120 --> 0:59:49.680 said a mouthful man, and I appreciate you coming over 0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:51.280 and sharing your wisdom. 0:59:51.320 --> 0:59:53.480 Man, I appreciate well. 0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:56.200 You knocked it out the park again. How you do that? Man? 0:59:57.280 --> 0:59:59.960 If you was a baseball player, man, you probably get 1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:02.680 the first billion out of contract. Oh brother, man, you 1:00:02.680 --> 1:00:04.400 have a billion on a contract out there, yet. 1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:07.560 I have no idea. To God be the glory. To 1:00:07.680 --> 1:00:10.320 God be the glory. Man, thanks for having me, brother, 1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:15.200 Will and Man. Conversations with you are like watershed moments 1:00:15.200 --> 1:00:17.840 for me, whether it's on a podcast or just a 1:00:17.880 --> 1:00:23.000 personal conversation. Man, I really really see you and know 1:00:23.120 --> 1:00:26.080 you to be one of the realists, not just have 1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:28.960 not one of the realists to just have ever wrapped, 1:00:29.520 --> 1:00:33.680 but one of the realists who to just have ever breathed. So, Man, 1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:37.080 thank you for being you. And to anyone who might 1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:40.840 be listening to this conversation, know that both Will and 1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:47.480 Not understand that we could have just hipped a little 1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:49.360 bit to the left, to hipped a little bit to 1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:52.560 the right, and we wouldn't be in the position that 1:00:52.600 --> 1:00:56.479 we're in today. So we don't judge, but we come 1:00:56.520 --> 1:01:00.280 to the subject matter until the table with compassion. We're 1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:02.760 doing all we can to try to pour as much 1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:06.880 into the next generation. And I think that in and 1:01:06.920 --> 1:01:10.080 of itself, like what we're doing on this podcast right now, 1:01:10.920 --> 1:01:14.120 if some younger brothers are listening and they take hold 1:01:14.120 --> 1:01:16.840 of what we're saying, we're passing on the form of 1:01:16.920 --> 1:01:20.360 generational will for the community right now. And I feel 1:01:20.360 --> 1:01:21.040 good about that. 1:01:21.400 --> 1:01:24.320 And that's important to say, man, because it's easy. It 1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:27.800 would be very very easy for you or I to 1:01:28.040 --> 1:01:34.000 just go do whatever we want to do and get paid, 1:01:34.240 --> 1:01:36.440 you know, live a nice comfortable. 1:01:36.080 --> 1:01:39.240 Life and not be and not be concerned. 1:01:38.840 --> 1:01:42.960 Exactly with Yeah, we're both sharp individuals, we're intelligent. You know, 1:01:43.000 --> 1:01:46.240 we got connections, you know, we got resources. We do 1:01:46.280 --> 1:01:49.360 we want to do. But what we're doing right now, 1:01:50.120 --> 1:01:53.040 this is this is uh, this is this is perhaps 1:01:53.120 --> 1:01:55.200 the most important thing that we could be doing. And 1:01:55.240 --> 1:01:57.960 it's very very dangerous. It is you see, That's what 1:01:58.000 --> 1:02:01.560 people don't understand, Like when you start putting information out 1:02:02.000 --> 1:02:06.080 to help black folks, that's dangerous. Yeah, and you're not 1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:09.280 going to just get You're not just gonna be targeted 1:02:09.280 --> 1:02:14.040 by you know those people. You're gonna be targeted by 1:02:14.080 --> 1:02:19.880 your people. Yeah, so you got those exactly, those Ryan 1:02:20.000 --> 1:02:21.680 those seas start with a see rhyme. 1:02:21.480 --> 1:02:25.880 With moons, Yeah, exactly exactly. They're those among us who 1:02:26.000 --> 1:02:29.720 want to convince us that there is no hope for 1:02:30.360 --> 1:02:32.600 the young brother, you know, standing at the bus stop 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:35.800 on Homestead with the pistol, you know, trying to see 1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:38.760 what his next move is But I remember when that 1:02:38.960 --> 1:02:42.480 was really d I'm telling you, like, I watch you 1:02:42.600 --> 1:02:46.960 go from that to this and to wherever else you're going, 1:02:47.280 --> 1:02:50.120 So I know it could be done. When I look 1:02:50.160 --> 1:02:52.880 in the mirror and I see what God has done 1:02:52.920 --> 1:02:55.520 for me, I know that it could be done. So 1:02:55.680 --> 1:02:58.760 no matter what condition I find one of these little 1:02:58.800 --> 1:03:03.760 youngsters in, I see that in them is a greatness 1:03:04.120 --> 1:03:07.920 that has the potential to surpass yours and mine put together, 1:03:08.560 --> 1:03:12.360 The question becomes, how can I get him to see 1:03:12.560 --> 1:03:15.160 his own greatness. It's one thing for me to believe 1:03:15.200 --> 1:03:17.080 in you, but how can I get you to believe 1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:21.240 in yourself? And that's the challenge, brother, But we accept 1:03:21.280 --> 1:03:22.640 the challenge and we're up for it. 1:03:23.400 --> 1:03:28.040 And that's why I give grace because we've already taken 1:03:28.080 --> 1:03:34.160 that journey. Yeah, and I know, yeah, like the same 1:03:34.200 --> 1:03:36.640 thing that they're getting right now, the same backlash year. 1:03:36.640 --> 1:03:41.480 They're getting the same criticism, critiquing, you know, the smoke 1:03:41.520 --> 1:03:45.720 that they get. I got it. But you know what 1:03:47.840 --> 1:03:53.720 made me, what made me get through it, what helped 1:03:53.760 --> 1:03:58.480 me get through it, was the belief in myself. It 1:03:58.560 --> 1:04:01.280 didn't matter what everybody else was saying. Yeah, even my 1:04:01.360 --> 1:04:03.920 own family. My own sister said I need to stop 1:04:03.960 --> 1:04:06.880 this rap thing, go get a job, and she stopped 1:04:06.920 --> 1:04:10.000 saying that when I bought her that the first time 1:04:10.000 --> 1:04:14.320 I bought it. Suv what I'm saying. So, so I 1:04:14.400 --> 1:04:17.600 know I've been there, and I know, and I thank 1:04:17.640 --> 1:04:18.440 you for saying that. 1:04:18.520 --> 1:04:21.920 Mannah, it's real, bro, and I know were running out 1:04:21.920 --> 1:04:29.200 of time. But when you see somebody you remember brother 1:04:29.280 --> 1:04:30.480 named Hilton West. 1:04:30.280 --> 1:04:31.800 From absolutely Okay. 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:34.800 I remember when Hilton West got killed by a police officer. 1:04:36.160 --> 1:04:39.680 I seen him, maybe I was with him fifteen minutes 1:04:39.800 --> 1:04:42.400 before he got killed. That was my first time seeing 1:04:42.440 --> 1:04:48.880 somebody lifeless right after I saw him alive. And it 1:04:49.040 --> 1:04:53.000 was a daunting experience for me. Right, So, to see 1:04:53.040 --> 1:04:58.280 somebody dead right after you saw them alive, that's a shock. 1:05:00.080 --> 1:05:07.040 But to see somebody go from abject to poverty and 1:05:07.160 --> 1:05:10.440 just watched them over the years go through the vicissitudes 1:05:10.520 --> 1:05:15.880 in life, and you know, you see them become you 1:05:15.920 --> 1:05:19.920 know who they become talking about you? Hey, brother, that 1:05:20.200 --> 1:05:23.760 right there gives you faith and belief that it can 1:05:23.880 --> 1:05:28.000 happen for anybody. When the brother Jay Prince put out 1:05:28.040 --> 1:05:30.920 his book, I went to his book signing in Houston 1:05:30.960 --> 1:05:34.200 because I had to go and support him. And you know, 1:05:34.240 --> 1:05:37.960 we all from the same neighborhood. This was a couple 1:05:38.000 --> 1:05:40.760 of years ago. I'm in there, brother, and I'm seeing 1:05:41.400 --> 1:05:47.120 so many brothers who went to jail in the nineties, 1:05:47.240 --> 1:05:52.560 got thirty years and just coming home. I'm like, whoa 1:05:52.920 --> 1:05:57.240 I'm talking about? These are all childhood friends. And a 1:05:57.400 --> 1:06:00.320 voice kept, you know, playing in the back of my head. 1:06:00.400 --> 1:06:01.840 You know this could have been you, right. 1:06:03.320 --> 1:06:09.640 E Jesus easy, Well, thank god it was you, man, 1:06:09.680 --> 1:06:11.640 and thank god we got you. And thank God that 1:06:11.720 --> 1:06:15.880 you've been using your body, your time, your influence, your 1:06:15.920 --> 1:06:19.760 wisdom to you know, to help all these other youngsters 1:06:19.800 --> 1:06:21.880 out here man that might be going through the same thing. 1:06:22.560 --> 1:06:28.080 Ladies and gentlemen. The Great, the Honorable Derek Muhammad, the homie, 1:06:28.080 --> 1:06:29.000 what's up baby? 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:31.480 I love you, my brother, Peace, love. 1:06:31.360 --> 1:06:36.120 You back man. No mo talk, No more talk. This 1:06:36.160 --> 1:06:38.680 episode was produced by a King and brought to you 1:06:38.800 --> 1:06:43.560 by the Black Effect Podcast Network at I Heart Radio.