WEBVTT - Selects: Birthmarks: Probably Not the Mark of the Devil 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:03.360 Hey, everybody, Chuck here, we're moving forward in time in 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.400 twenty twenty for this select the year of COVID with 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:12.040 our February twentieth episode birth Marks Colin probably not the Mark. 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:12.360 Of the Devil. 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:15.880 Honestly, don't remember much about this one, but when I 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:19.079 was looking through our twenty twenty list it maybe I 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:20.919 want to go listen to it. And so that's what 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:22.320 I'm going to do, and I think you should too. 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:34.960 Welcome to stuff you should know a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.640 Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:43.000 there's Charles w Chuck, Brian over there, and there's Jerry. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:47.200 Jerry's back. Everybody that's right. And all the listeners said, 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.639 what happened to Josh TV? What are we doing? Did 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.240 we decide? Yeah, we're going to do birth one? Okay? Great? 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:54.040 Check the title? 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:56.560 Chuck, Oh may I have two things in front of me. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:00:59.040 How you doing? 0:00:59.120 --> 0:00:59.520 I'm great? 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.360 How are you? I'm good? You got any birthmarks? I 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:07.880 do what you got? I've got something under my right armpit. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:13.679 You're like, it looks like Richard Nixon. Close, it looks 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:17.880 like Spiro Agnes. Do you remember when Mad Magazine used 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:19.600 to make fun of Spiau Agnew and you're like, I 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:20.679 have no idea who that. 0:01:20.920 --> 0:01:21.400 Was the name. 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:25.600 Maybe no, it's because like they hated his politics. Yeah. Well, 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:28.560 but then there was a Simpsons where Millhouse is like, 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.800 they're making fun of Spiro Agnew again. He must work 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.800 there or something, and I remember specifically thinking that he 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:37.440 referenced Mad magazine. Oh that's funny. 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.800 Yeah, so you've got a under your armpit birthmark? 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:42.360 Yeah, how about you. 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:47.440 I don't think I do. Actually, what I have a 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:51.480 lot of now because I'm an old man speeding toward 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:56.400 death are skin tags. Oh yeah, like those they're not 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.560 around the neck and armpit. That's where they like tend 0:01:59.560 --> 0:01:59.880 to gather. 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.480 That's just your skin, you know, really going at it. 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.840 I used to have them clipped, and I did. I 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:08.600 did that for a while, but it's been a while, 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.880 but now I went in recently. It was so annoying. 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:14.520 It was one of these our medical system is just broken. 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:16.880 It was one of those reminders because I went in 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:18.360 to get it taken care of like I usually do. 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.520 When I got in there and the guy was like, oh, well, 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.320 we don't do this now unless you make another kind 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.880 of appointment. I was like, well, can I just make 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.720 this that since I'm here sitting in your office, right, 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:30.720 He's like, no, no, no, those take much longer. These 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.280 are just ten minute appointments and that'll take like an hour. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.960 And some of them have their own vascular systems so 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:40.600 they need to be cauterized. And I was like, oh, okay, 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.960 so I'm just leaving and he was like yes, He's like, 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.400 if you want to make that other appointment. And then 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.040 they refunded the money for that appointment, which, yeah, that 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.480 was nice a cope, but then he said, make the 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:53.160 longer appointment if you want to come back. 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:54.480 Huh. 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:58.680 So which are yeah, you know, I mean they're not 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:04.119 like medically danger or anything, but their brother unsightly. It's 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:05.880 fine when they get long and big. 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.760 Well long, sure, I mean how long are we talking like? 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:10.960 I mean some of the ones are like, you know, 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:12.840 quarter inch. 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.960 So okay, I was just about to say how big 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:17.720 that one? Let me see if we can figure it 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:20.840 out in the metric. It's a few centimeters, I think, 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:21.440 is what you just. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.400 Yeah, I want to get them clipped again. So you're 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.760 going to make that longer appointment, right, I think it 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:26.560 will be painful. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:29.600 Is it painful? I've never had one clipped. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.880 The regular clipping. The small ones aren't a big deal 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.960 because they just hit it with a little quick shot 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.360 and then clip it and this no big deal. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:37.960 But what kind of a shot like. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:42.920 A you know, needle, like a little numbing numbing thing. Okay, 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.720 I got youa like with a needle, like light, a 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.240 cane whatever, I don't know. They don't spray it with 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:49.680 the freezy stuff. 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.320 No, you're thinking of this stuff for athlete's foot. This 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.000 is like a shot light a cane. 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.720 But anyway, the ones that are big that require cauterizing, 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.240 I'm sure that doesn't feel great, even if they've numbed 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:01.560 it up. 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.600 You just get the acetylene torch out. 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:06.200 And imagine, don't have to shave my armpits because if 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.279 you're torching something near armpit. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.680 Hair, plus you just want to look good. Maybe I've 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:14.120 never shaved my pits. Might start that I used to 0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:18.240 Why not? I'll bet that's itchy though. Yeah maybe anytime 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.080 you shaved something it starts to grow out. It's itchy, 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:24.360 you know what I'm saying. So I used to get 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:26.640 warts actually when I was a kid. Oh yeah, And 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.120 I remember going into the dermatologists and they go into 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.040 the freezer, put on these huge rubber gloves and pull 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:36.719 out like this thermos of I want to say, nitro glysterm. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:39.159 That's not it. No, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:43.000 the cold stuff. Yeah, and it would freeze, Yeah, my 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.800 wart basically right off right there. Yeah, you just kind 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.080 of sting for a second. And that was it. 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:48.920 I never really had warts. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.080 Believe me, buddy, you lucked out because if you're a 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.960 little kid in sure grade school and you have like 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.800 it wasn't like I wasn't coated with them, but you know, 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.400 i'd get one like here between my forefinger and my thumb, 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.560 or I had one on my elbow or something like that. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:10.800 Zero in on that. Yeah, and you're you're the little 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:14.520 weird kid who is already the fat kid now with 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:16.400 warts new and improved. 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:21.120 I had freckles a lot more than I do now, 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.240 because freckles tend to fade as you get older, and 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.279 freckles are I guess the kind of well, they're not 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.080 a kind of birthmark because you're not born with freckles, 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:31.800 but I did look into it. Freckles are just an 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.640 abundance of melanin, like collected together. 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.159 Well, that's basically what a mole is, which is a 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:38.920 type of birthmark if you're born with it. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:39.479 That's right. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:43.760 So I love freckles, though, are super cute. Freckles are great. 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.840 Moles are great. Birth Marks, especially interesting ones are great. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.520 Warts are great. That's why the term warts and all 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.279 came about it. That's how you should love. It's true, 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.159 Chuck Man, quit making fun of people. Kids. 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.880 Well, that's the thing. So mean, birthmarks have been around 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:06.040 since the dawn of humanity, I'm guessing, and people have 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.960 probably been ostracized because their birthmarks since the dawn of humanity. 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.640 And you know, for a very long time people were 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:17.800 ostracized for their birthmarks because of some really stupid ideas, 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.440 like that it meant you were a witch, right, or 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.680 it meant you were touched by Satan, all sorts of 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.720 stuff like that. And then over time it got a 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.160 little more innocuous. But even still today there are parts 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:31.960 of the world where you can find people who are 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:34.719 ostracized because they're birth marks. And then even in the 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:38.560 developed world, the Western world, which is rational and based 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.480 more on science, you can still find yourself, you know, 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:44.919 at the receiving end of being ostracized. Maybe not because 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:46.760 you're a witch, but just because you have a birth 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.400 marker you look different. And so I've seen. 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.039 Parents react to it if their baby has like a 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:55.640 strawberry mark on their head, yes like that, seeing them 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:57.880 feel the need to say like, oh, you know this 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.000 is you know, will go away or something like that. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.520 I was reading this birthmark support group from Great Britain 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:06.560 and they were saying this One mom had cards printed 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:10.240 up explaining what her child's birthmark was because sometimes she 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.240 just couldn't. She just didn't have it together enough to 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.120 have a conversation with a stranger who'd walked up and 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.800 been like, what's up with your kid's face? And rather 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:20.760 than belt them, she would just give them a card 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.840 and then just probably go home and weep or something 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.480 like that, knowing not for herself but the life that 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.640 her kid was gonna have to face, not because her 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:29.800 kid has a birthmark, but because the rest of the 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.760 world are schmucks. Yes, that's the that's the long and 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.160 short of it. That's right, all right, children. I bet 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:39.160 I managed to find a soapbox even in the Birthmarks episode. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.160 I bet a kid probably a collection of kids could 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:46.440 still make you cry. If they started on, I'd. 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:50.200 Just start kicking, throw at elbows. I just hold my 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.560 arms out and start twirling around really fast, and whatever 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:54.520 got hit got hit. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.200 People would be like, is Josh fighting a bunch of 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.120 children and be like, yeah, they made fun of them. 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.000 Yeah, they'd be like, I shoved one in a grosser 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:00.760 restore ones. 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.400 Oh man, I'll never forget that, lady. 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.480 So let's talk birthmarks, Chuck. It turns out there's a 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:08.920 lot to know. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:13.960 Yeah, they're usually not a big deal. They aren't painful, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.840 they're usually harmless. A lot of times that go away. 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.560 We're going to detail the ones that do and that 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.600 don't go away, and the ones that are of more concern. 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.960 But generally speaking, science doesn't really know why they come 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:33.080 about to begin with, but they are something that doctors 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:37.320 will sometimes want to keep an eye on. And that's 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:37.800 the intro. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:40.600 That's Intro number seven. 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:45.880 Yeah, there's a couple of big categories, vascular and pigmented, 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:50.319 and let's talk about some of these. Vascular are usually 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.280 reddish because they have to do with blood vessels. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.360 Yeah, I think reddish is a very common When you 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:01.000 think birth marks, you think reddish typically I think brownish. 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:07.040 Apparently they can come in a whole rainbow of colors blue, brown, black, pink, white, 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:10.320 although I take issue with that purplish or tan, and 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:13.720 I take issue with white because I think white is 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.840 like a reverse birthmark, although technically it would still count 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:17.480 as a birthmark. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.360 So the whole rest of your body is a birthmark, 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.840 and that right, Okay. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:27.199 That's right. Birthmarks tend to be an aggregation of either 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.000 pigment or blood, as we'll see, and white is like 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.880 an area where pigment is absent, So I guess it 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.080 still counts as a birthmark, but it's not really a birthmark. 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.200 If you go into a dermatologist's office, they'll be like, 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:41.559 he got this all wrong. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.960 And like we said, the skin tags and freckles and 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.680 things like that, they come later in life, although freckles 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.679 can start out very early. But it's still not a 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.360 birth mark because you're not born with that mark. 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:56.880 Yeah, and even as we'll see, some types of moles 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:00.199 don't technically qualify as birthmarks, even though they typically fall 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.000 under the banner of birth marks. You have to be 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.680 born with something for it to count as a birthmark, 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.120 that's right. So that's not even fully true. As we'll see, 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:13.320 this is just full of lies. Everybody who studies birth 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.000 marks needs to get their stuff together. 0:10:15.640 --> 0:10:20.440 So the macular they're called flat sometimes macular stains. 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.960 And we're in the vascular category right. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.000 This is the non pigmented. These are usually caused by 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.720 blood and large blood vessels. These have some cute names 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:34.520 that go along with them. The angel kisses great. I 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.960 think some of these can be because of where they're found, 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.440 although I've heard people cross referencing, like I think an 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.320 angel kiss is usually on the forehead, oh really, but 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.880 not always. A stork bite is usually on the back 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:47.360 of the neck. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:48.720 Oh, that makes sense. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.080 But I've also when you google stork bite there are 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.160 some like right on the tip of the nose, and 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:54.040 people call them that. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.920 I took it to me more like that those those 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.880 names were derived from the age that they're like kids 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.200 who are born with this and then it tends to 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.280 go away at an early age. That's what it's associated with, 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.760 you know, like the stork brings the baby, and the angels, well, 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:14.560 everybody angels love babies. What about the salmon patch, I 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:15.880 don't understand it at all. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:22.240 They are usually above the neck, they usually or a 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.440 lot of times they'll disappear and fade away by the 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:29.439 time they're two three years old, but not always sometimes 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:30.319 the last. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.560 Yeah, but for the most part, if you have a 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:38.680 macular flat vascular birthmark on your kid, they're probably going 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.719 to outgrow. It is just really no other way to 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:44.240 But they outgrow that birthmark eventually, that's right. Most often, 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.880 port wine stains are a whole different ballgame. Yes, they 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.880 look like kind of what they sound like. They're usually 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:56.480 kind of a purplish red where it looks like, well 0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.360 port or wine has been spilled. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.760 I would know nothing about what a wine's looks like. 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.440 Sure, right, because you never ever spill all your wine. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.680 It all makes it into your mouth. That's right. I've 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:10.360 seen it, so port Weinstein. I say that it's like 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:14.600 a whole different kettle of fish. It's in the same 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:20.559 category as macular because they're vascular. It's like an aggregation 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:25.040 of overdeveloped blood vessels kind of close to the skin. 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:30.880 But they seem to come from like a whole different place. 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.600 There's a whole different reason. And in fact we should 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.160 say this, chuck, because this is really important. If you 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:41.440 go up to a dermatologist or anybody who would know 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.199 what they're talking about. And you say, hey, where did 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.400 birth marks come from? What causes birth marks? They would say, 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.560 we actually don't know. The closest that they've come is 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:54.400 with port winstains. From what I can tell, they figured 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:59.280 out that there's a gene where this molecular switch that's 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:01.840 supposed to go on and off is locked in the 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.400 on position. That they think that this is what causes 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.040 port wine stains. And the reason that they found it 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:11.120 is because about six percent of kids who are born 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:15.560 with the port wine stain birthmark develops something called sturge 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.440 Weber syndrome, which is a neurological condition. Oh interesting, and 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.000 it's if you have a port wine stain birth mark. 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.000 It does not mean you have sturge Weber, but if 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.440 you have sturge Weber, you have a port wine birthmark. Gotcha. 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:33.840 Six percent of port wine birthmarks cases have sturge Weber. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:35.080 It's actually a symptom. 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.720 But one hundred percent of people with that condition have 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:39.120 right the port wind stain. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:42.800 Yeah, and so in investigating the syndrome and the link 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.600 between it and the port wine stain birthmark, they found 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:49.480 this gene that they think is the culprit. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:52.200 All right, Well, they never go away. A lot of 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:56.400 times they'll get darker as you become older. And these 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:59.280 are not a big deal health wise either, unless it's 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.400 something near your eyes that can affect your vision, and 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:03.720 then they might want to take. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.400 A look at it. I also saw that in some 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:09.199 cases they can start to get lumpy and actually become 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.320 disfiguring as you age two. I did see those, and 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.480 they can also just once they lump, they can scar too, 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:19.240 So a lot of people seek treatment for port Weinstein 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:20.480 birth marks. As we'll see. 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.480 Yeah, strawberry marks is what I referenced at the beginning. 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.680 You might see these on little bebies. They are hamanngiomas. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:29.400 Is that right? 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:34.320 Yeahah, and these most of the times I saw even 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.440 less than thirty percent. But it says your thirty percent 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.320 are visible at birth most of the times though, they'll 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:44.240 develop between four and six weeks, and I think by 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.000 the time you hit six months, if you're going to 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.760 have one, it will be visible by that point. You 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:51.040 won't develop one of these at like the one year mark. 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.520 No, but again there's that one. There's the loophole where 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.920 it's like you it still counts as a birthmark, even 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.720 though you weren't technically born with it. Me up the wall, right, 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:06.480 And these are a little more reddish, and you've probably 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.960 seen these, like I said, on babies before, because they're 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.560 you know, they're pretty common. They will they have they're 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.280 raised off the skin. That's kind of one of the 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:23.320 differentiators is they're not flat. Right, So like hamagiom Homagie, 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.800 I've said it like five times in my head, Hamagioma's 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:31.000 fifty times probably yes, and I can't say it out loud. 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:35.320 Hamagioma's macular import wine scenes. Like we said, these are 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:40.600 all over developed blood vessels, clusters of blood vessels. They're 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:43.320 from blood vessels, which is like sixth time we said that, 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.120 Which is why they have that that reddish pigment is 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.520 because the blood is close enough to the skin and 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.880 it's clustered together. It's kind of almost pooled right there, right, 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.440 that's right. But it's not like a bruise or anything 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.520 like that. It's the blood hasn't escaped the vessel. There's 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.880 just a lot of vessels or big vessels all clumped 0:15:59.880 --> 0:16:04.320 in together near the skin. What's interesting about Himagioma's I 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:11.560 did it chuck Hmagioma's nice work. Thanks hemangiomas oh Man, 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.400 did I miss it twice? I think there's an inn 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:17.760 in there that is being forgotten. What's interesting about what 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:21.160 you just mentioned is that in some cases they can 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:25.760 extend down into the body, and the further they extend down, 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.640 they won't be reddish, they'll be bluish. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:31.520 Yeah, and they can even be on the organs. It's 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.960 pretty rare, but it happens. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.320 It is, and they can be threatening on the organs. 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:39.040 You don't want to have a cluster of blood vessels 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.720 on your organs. But back to the blue part. So 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.360 the reason that they look blue is because, as everybody knows, 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.760 blood on its way back to the lungs to be 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:55.320 oxygenated is blue. That's right, that's not true. I'm sorry 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.320 to set you up like that. I thought it was true. 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.080 Up, that's are not. And as soon as you get 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.720 cut and it hits that sweet sweet oxygen, right, that 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.720 just transforms into red. That's what you thought, right, Not 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:08.680 what I thought as an adult, but that's what I 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:09.800 thought as a small child. 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.960 That's what I thought until this morning. No, come on, 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:13.520 you knew that. 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.159 No? Really? Yes, you thought blood was blue? 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.680 Yes, I thought deoxygenated blood was blue. Wow. Well okay, 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.160 well do you understand why it appears blue? 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.160 Well, I mean no, but I just knew that that 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.320 was like a playground falsehood. 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.359 Well, I was too busy thinking about how we're fighting off. 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.320 I was covered with to learn this. 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.160 You're like, I'm going to draw some sweet blue blood 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:43.159 out of that jerney, right, So with my fists. 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.000 The reason it's blue is because the deeper it is, 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:49.600 the less blue light is able to penetrate, so the 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.600 less that can be absorbed, and so the light that's 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.840 reflected tends to be blue more than say like red, 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.080 which penetrates deeper and is absorbed. 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.280 That has to do with blue foods too, which is 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:01.600 a bit for the next episode. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.080 Thank you, just put a pin in that. Yeah. 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:09.119 These strawberry marks though, back to those, they will disappear 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.400 usually by the time a kid is like into double digits. 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:16.480 If they're large, sometimes you might see a scar. These 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.760 are around the head and neck as well, and are 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:25.199 most commonly found on Caucasian girls. Right, But they're not. 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.879 They don't have a real impact on development either. But 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.960 if they are really big and puffy, again, they could 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.320 around the eyes or ears. They could interfere with hearing, 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:35.360 envision and stuff like that. 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.359 Right, Yeah, and if they're on the on your internal organs, 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.800 it's a problem. Yes. Yeah, So I think we should 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.679 take a break because astoundingly we're twenty minutes in and 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.679 we have not taken a break. Wow. So we'll be 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.280 back to birth marks right after this. 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:15.280 Okay, to recap, Remember, vascular blood birth marks are reddish 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:19.359 because of blood vessels. Precisely, if anyone misses that question 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.080 on the quiz tomorrow, your toast is not our fault. 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:26.840 So the other kind of birth marks are pigmented birth. 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:28.840 Marks, nothing to do with blood vessels. 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:31.800 I don't know. There could be a blood vessel or 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.320 two involved, but no, not really. No, this is because 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.800 like freckles, like I was talking about, it is just 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:40.360 a collection of melanin that's brought out by sun exposure. Yeah, 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:45.880 and you have melanocytes, melanin cells, melatonin cells or melanin 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.960 one of the two all over your body. It gives 0:19:49.040 --> 0:19:51.320 you like the color to your skin. Some people have more, 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.000 some people have less, but everybody has them. But like 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.720 you were saying, when they kind of congregate together, that's 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.879 when they form these pigmented spots that we know as birthmarks. 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.800 Right, we are in our house. My daughter's at the 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.040 age now where she has started to notice skin color. 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.640 Oh yeah, which is something that you know every parent 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.639 has to deal with at some point. Sure, and that's 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.840 how it was recommended to us to talk about it 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.640 with scientifically, being like, hey, everyone's the same, She's got 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.479 different skin tones because of science. Some people have more 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:24.600 melanine than other people. 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:26.760 Is that why you had me over to dinner and 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:29.840 started asking me about that? Yeah, you just wound me 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:33.480 up and knew it. Go huh, that's right. 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.760 So, but I mean that is tricky stuff for parents 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.560 because what you're really talking about is the first talks of. 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.800 Race, right you know. Yeah, and you just you have 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:46.879 to do it in such a way that diffuses it 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.760 almost towards just like you. No, everyone's the same, right, 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.520 Some people are lighter skinned, some people are darker skinned. Yeah. 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.919 Both of her best friends, though, are multiracial, which helps. 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:56.959