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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chuck here, we're moving forward in time in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty for this select the year of COVID with

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Speaker 1: our February twentieth episode birth Marks Colin probably not the Mark.

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Speaker 2: Of the Devil.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, don't remember much about this one, but when I

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Speaker 1: was looking through our twenty twenty list it maybe I

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Speaker 1: want to go listen to it. And so that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do, and I think you should too.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff you should know a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and

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Speaker 2: there's Charles w Chuck, Brian over there, and there's Jerry.

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Speaker 2: Jerry's back. Everybody that's right. And all the listeners said,

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Speaker 2: what happened to Josh TV? What are we doing? Did

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Speaker 2: we decide? Yeah, we're going to do birth one? Okay? Great?

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Speaker 2: Check the title?

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Speaker 1: Chuck, Oh may I have two things in front of me.

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Speaker 2: How you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm great?

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Speaker 2: How are you? I'm good? You got any birthmarks? I

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Speaker 2: do what you got? I've got something under my right armpit.

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Speaker 2: You're like, it looks like Richard Nixon. Close, it looks

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Speaker 2: like Spiro Agnes. Do you remember when Mad Magazine used

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Speaker 2: to make fun of Spiau Agnew and you're like, I

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Speaker 2: have no idea who that.

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Speaker 1: Was the name.

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Speaker 2: Maybe no, it's because like they hated his politics. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 2: but then there was a Simpsons where Millhouse is like,

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Speaker 2: they're making fun of Spiro Agnew again. He must work

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Speaker 2: there or something, and I remember specifically thinking that he

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Speaker 2: referenced Mad magazine. Oh that's funny.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you've got a under your armpit birthmark?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how about you.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I do. Actually, what I have a

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Speaker 1: lot of now because I'm an old man speeding toward

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Speaker 1: death are skin tags. Oh yeah, like those they're not

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Speaker 1: around the neck and armpit. That's where they like tend

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Speaker 2: That's just your skin, you know, really going at it.

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Speaker 1: I used to have them clipped, and I did. I

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Speaker 1: did that for a while, but it's been a while,

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Speaker 1: but now I went in recently. It was so annoying.

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Speaker 1: It was one of these our medical system is just broken.

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Speaker 1: It was one of those reminders because I went in

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Speaker 1: to get it taken care of like I usually do.

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Speaker 1: When I got in there and the guy was like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: we don't do this now unless you make another kind

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Speaker 1: of appointment. I was like, well, can I just make

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Speaker 1: this that since I'm here sitting in your office, right,

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Speaker 1: He's like, no, no, no, those take much longer. These

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Speaker 1: are just ten minute appointments and that'll take like an hour.

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Speaker 1: And some of them have their own vascular systems so

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Speaker 1: they need to be cauterized. And I was like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: so I'm just leaving and he was like yes, He's like,

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Speaker 1: if you want to make that other appointment. And then

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Speaker 1: they refunded the money for that appointment, which, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was nice a cope, but then he said, make the

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Speaker 1: longer appointment if you want to come back.

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Speaker 2: Huh.

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Speaker 1: So which are yeah, you know, I mean they're not

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Speaker 1: like medically danger or anything, but their brother unsightly. It's

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Speaker 1: fine when they get long and big.

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Speaker 2: Well long, sure, I mean how long are we talking like?

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Speaker 1: I mean some of the ones are like, you know,

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Speaker 2: So okay, I was just about to say how big

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get them clipped again. So you're

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Speaker 2: Is it painful? I've never had one clipped.

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Speaker 1: The regular clipping. The small ones aren't a big deal

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Speaker 1: because they just hit it with a little quick shot

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Speaker 2: But what kind of a shot like.

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Speaker 1: A you know, needle, like a little numbing numbing thing. Okay,

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Speaker 2: No, you're thinking of this stuff for athlete's foot. This

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Speaker 1: But anyway, the ones that are big that require cauterizing,

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Speaker 2: You just get the acetylene torch out.

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Speaker 1: And imagine, don't have to shave my armpits because if

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Speaker 2: Hair, plus you just want to look good. Maybe I've

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Speaker 2: Why not? I'll bet that's itchy though. Yeah maybe anytime

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I used to get

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Speaker 1: I never really had warts.

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Speaker 2: Believe me, buddy, you lucked out because if you're a

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Speaker 2: Zero in on that. Yeah, and you're you're the little

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Speaker 1: I had freckles a lot more than I do now,

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Speaker 1: because freckles tend to fade as you get older, and

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Speaker 1: freckles are I guess the kind of well, they're not

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Speaker 1: but I did look into it. Freckles are just an

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Speaker 2: Well, that's basically what a mole is, which is a

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Speaker 2: So I love freckles, though, are super cute. Freckles are great.

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Speaker 2: Moles are great. Birth Marks, especially interesting ones are great.

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Speaker 1: Warts are great. That's why the term warts and all

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Speaker 1: came about it. That's how you should love. It's true,

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Speaker 1: Chuck Man, quit making fun of people. Kids.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. So mean, birthmarks have been around

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Speaker 1: Parents react to it if their baby has like a

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Speaker 1: strawberry mark on their head, yes like that, seeing them

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Speaker 2: I was reading this birthmark support group from Great Britain

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Speaker 2: world are schmucks. Yes, that's the that's the long and

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Speaker 2: I managed to find a soapbox even in the Birthmarks episode.

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Speaker 1: I bet a kid probably a collection of kids could

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Speaker 2: Just start kicking, throw at elbows. I just hold my

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Speaker 1: People would be like, is Josh fighting a bunch of

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Speaker 1: children and be like, yeah, they made fun of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be like, I shoved one in a grosser

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I'll never forget that, lady.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk birthmarks, Chuck. It turns out there's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're usually not a big deal. They aren't painful,

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Speaker 1: they're usually harmless. A lot of times that go away.

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Speaker 1: But generally speaking, science doesn't really know why they come

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Speaker 2: That's Intro number seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple of big categories, vascular and pigmented,

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Speaker 1: and let's talk about some of these. Vascular are usually

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think reddish is a very common When you

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Speaker 2: think birth marks, you think reddish typically I think brownish.

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Speaker 2: Apparently they can come in a whole rainbow of colors blue, brown, black, pink, white,

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Speaker 2: although I take issue with that purplish or tan, and

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Speaker 2: I take issue with white because I think white is

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Speaker 2: like a reverse birthmark, although technically it would still count

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Speaker 1: So the whole rest of your body is a birthmark,

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Speaker 2: That's right. Birthmarks tend to be an aggregation of either

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Speaker 2: pigment or blood, as we'll see, and white is like

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Speaker 2: an area where pigment is absent, So I guess it

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Speaker 2: still counts as a birthmark, but it's not really a birthmark.

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Speaker 2: If you go into a dermatologist's office, they'll be like,

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Speaker 2: he got this all wrong.

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Speaker 1: And like we said, the skin tags and freckles and

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Speaker 1: things like that, they come later in life, although freckles

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Speaker 1: can start out very early. But it's still not a

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Speaker 1: birth mark because you're not born with that mark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and even as we'll see, some types of moles

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Speaker 2: don't technically qualify as birthmarks, even though they typically fall

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Speaker 2: that's right. So that's not even fully true. As we'll see,

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Speaker 2: this is just full of lies. Everybody who studies birth

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Speaker 1: So the macular they're called flat sometimes macular stains.

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Speaker 2: And we're in the vascular category right.

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Speaker 1: This is the non pigmented. These are usually caused by

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Speaker 1: blood and large blood vessels. These have some cute names

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Speaker 1: that go along with them. The angel kisses great. I

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Speaker 1: although I've heard people cross referencing, like I think an

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Speaker 2: Six percent of port wine birthmarks cases have sturge Weber.

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Speaker 2: did it chuck Hmagioma's nice work. Thanks hemangiomas oh Man,

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Speaker 2: You don't want to have a cluster of blood vessels

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Speaker 2: That's what I thought until this morning. No, come on,

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Speaker 1: No? Really? Yes, you thought blood was blue?

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Speaker 2: well do you understand why it appears blue?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean no, but I just knew that that

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Speaker 2: Well, I was too busy thinking about how we're fighting off.

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Speaker 1: You're like, I'm going to draw some sweet blue blood

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Speaker 2: The reason it's blue is because the deeper it is,

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Speaker 2: Thank you, just put a pin in that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: These strawberry marks though, back to those, they will disappear

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Speaker 1: They don't have a real impact on development either. But

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Speaker 1: Okay, to recap, Remember, vascular blood birth marks are reddish

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Speaker 1: because of blood vessels. Precisely, if anyone misses that question

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Speaker 2: So the other kind of birth marks are pigmented birth.

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Speaker 1: Marks, nothing to do with blood vessels.

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Speaker 1: Right, we are in our house. My daughter's at the

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, which is something that you know every parent

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Speaker 2: Is that why you had me over to dinner and

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Speaker 2: started asking me about that? Yeah, you just wound me

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Speaker 1: So, but I mean that is tricky stuff for parents

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Speaker 2: We need to say, you know, her skin is a

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Speaker 1: But these have some cute names too, and they are

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Speaker 1: Yes, the very Parisian cafe latte cafela, Oh, Cafe.

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Speaker 2: La Sorry I misread that.

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Speaker 1: It's all right, a latte is different.

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Speaker 2: This has nothing to do with vascular aggregations of blood vessels.

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Speaker 1: No, And do you get confused on coffee orders or

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Speaker 1: do you know all that stuff?

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty pretty good with it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what any of them are, Like any

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Speaker 2: It's all just a differing amounts of milk, steamed milk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like when I hear like a machiato or

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Speaker 2: Are a shot of espresso or multiple shots of espresso

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Speaker 1: I think that's what our friend Chad Crowley drinks.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's all interesting.

433
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Speaker 2: Machiato, you got me. I don't know, like cappuccino, there's

434
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: a lot. There's like more foam than milk.

435
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: Milk foam, Yeah, yeah, I know those two.

436
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: It's all just milk or foam or coffee. What's a

437
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 2: cafe la cafela is simply coffee with milk. That's it, really,

438
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: that's what that's literally, what it means in French.

439
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,400
Speaker 1: Is that like the what's it called in in Spanish?

440
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: Cafe conley?

441
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 1: Okay, that's the same thing.

442
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: Then coffee with milk.

443
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I am a dummy. I haven't been drinking.

444
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Speaker 2: It's not it's not that. It's just it's not that.

445
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: As you can see, I'm still drinking my Cafe lat

446
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: from this morning.

447
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: Those are great, aren't they?

448
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: And it's still hot thanks to And I'll go ahead

449
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: and plug it the zoji rushi. And I've plugged this

450
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: on our page before. Like, if you like your coffee

451
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: hot all day, get one of these little thermoss. This

452
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: thing keeps the thing hot for ten hours.

453
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: It really does.

454
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so much.

455
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Speaker 2: So I have the same one you mean, has a

456
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: little pinkuin. It's cute when I pour coffee in. I

457
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 2: have to like pour the coffee into a mug to

458
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,239
Speaker 2: let it cool off, right, to put it in there,

459
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 2: because you won't be able to drink it. No, like

460
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: maybe the next day you could. It keeps it that hot,

461
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: for sure.

462
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Speaker 1: We need to get them as a sponsor.

463
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Speaker 2: Man. They also make out of this world rice cookers too.

464
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I've got Well, now, I'm not sure if

465
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Speaker 1: that's the one I have or another one I think Tiger.

466
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Speaker 2: Those are the two best ones in my opinion.

467
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Speaker 1: I can't remember. I'll have to look, But all I

468
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 1: know is the one I have is very forgiving. Yeah,

469
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: you can be off with your measurements and it still

470
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: makes perfect rice.

471
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: You can use like buttermilk and somehow it still comes

472
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: out just cret.

473
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, buttermilk buttermilk ice.

474
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Speaker 2: That could be all right. Well, here's a little tip

475
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 2: for you. You make sushi rice, okay, Usually you just

476
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: do a one to one rice to water ratio. Yeah,

477
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: then go in and just put like half like a

478
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 2: tea spoon half teaspoon, even depending on how tiny you

479
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Speaker 2: want to be of rice vinegar.

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Speaker 1: Oh, well sure, I usually add that after No, No,

481
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Speaker 1: you want to make it together? Yeah, so you want

482
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Speaker 1: to cook it with it?

483
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay.

484
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Speaker 1: I used to make my own sushi rolls, and then

485
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Speaker 1: I just got to the point where I was like,

486
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Speaker 1: it's not worth it. It's just a lot easier to

487
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Speaker 1: get sushi.

488
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Speaker 2: Where did you get your your seafoodashimi? Sorry?

489
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Speaker 1: I would get that at the decab Farmer's market. I

490
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: would get the tuna there and the crab sticks, which

491
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: that's easy. You can get that at Kroger's and the

492
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Speaker 1: seaweed there. But then there's also a Japanese market by

493
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: where I would get the eel nice to bake in

494
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: the oven. Nice, but that's kind of as you know,

495
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 1: you could do spicy tuna tuna right, eel and crabstick.

496
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, California Roles, I really want some sushi right now.

497
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: I I mean we both eat a lot of sushi. Yeah,

498
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: it's good.

499
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: Okay. So cafe ol a birth marks.

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Speaker 1: So that is the cafe ola. They are the color

501
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: of a cafel a kind of a light brown.

502
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: Which means coffee with milk.

503
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: Yep, there And this is to me was when I

504
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: think birthmark, I think of these because it's just a

505
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: little brown spot anywhere on the body.

506
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's I think. One of the things we

507
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: didn't say is with some of the birthmarks there is

508
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: kind of specific places that they'll appear, yeah, or they're

509
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Speaker 2: tied to specific places usually, But with cafeol A birthmarks

510
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 2: in particular, they're just they got no rules forehead, butt, cheek, wherever, wherever,

511
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 2: and they apparently don't. There's nothing, there's no problem with them.

512
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 2: But very much like the the port wine staying birthmark,

513
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: the caf Ala spots are tied to a neurological actually

514
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: a nerve condition where if you have six or more

515
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Speaker 2: of these kinds of cafe Ala birthmarks, especially if they're

516
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 2: larger than like a dime in an older kid, you

517
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: want to go to see a doctor. Yeah, because that

518
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: could mean that you have something called neurofibromatosis. I said

519
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 2: that a million times in my head too. You got

520
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: to start saying things out loud, also known as NF one. Yeah,

521
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: it's easier, but n F one is not even necessarily

522
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: it could it could be asymptomatic. Like if you if

523
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Speaker 2: you're like, oh my gosh, I've got six or more

524
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Speaker 2: caf al a birthmarks on me, maybe I have neuro fibromatosis.

525
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: That's It's not like a death sentence or anything like that.

526
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: It's just go see a doctor, right.

527
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Speaker 1: The Mongolian spot us are these look like bruises to me?

528
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: They can if you don't know what you're looking at.

529
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: It can be alarming because you see these pictures of

530
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: babies that look like they're heavily bruised, kind of at

531
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: the lower back upper buttocks area. Yeah, but it is

532
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: not bruising. They're bluish gray though, And like I said,

533
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: usually on the lower back. I think African Americans, African

534
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: Asian and Hispanic kids usually with darker skin have more

535
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Speaker 1: of them, or more commonly have them. And these are

536
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Speaker 1: the ones that fade out by the time they're like

537
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, six or seven.

538
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: Usually, Yeah, And they're usually a bluish green because they're

539
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 2: clusters of pigment cells together deep under the skin. And

540
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 2: so you've got that same thing going on like you

541
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Speaker 2: have with the hemangiomas. Nice, I got it, you got it.

542
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: There's a good old fashioned mole. This is a pigmented

543
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Speaker 1: ear mark. Multiple of them are Nevy, Brown, Nevi, and

544
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Speaker 1: e v I because a nevis is a single mole.

545
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: Are any of these like band names?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, but very fortuitous mentioning of that

547
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: because of listener mail later. It is Latin for spot

548
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: and there are three categoryles. Yes, okay, no, nev I

549
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: think mole is Latin for spot. Oh is it?

550
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah?

551
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, I was just about to make fun of

552
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Speaker 1: you too.

553
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 2: I'm glad I didn't.

554
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm glad you have mole sounds real Latin sport boy.

555
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: So there are three categories of moles, congenital, acquired, and atypical.

556
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Speaker 1: The congenital About one percent of babies are born with these,

557
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Speaker 1: and these are kind of all over the map as

558
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: far as color and size. Some of them are hairy,

559
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: some of them are not hairy.

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Speaker 2: I saw that basically every congenital mole has a little hair,

561
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Speaker 2: a hair of some sort. It can be very very fine,

562
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: It can be thick, it can be coarse, it can

563
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: be very dark. Yeah, usually they're very dark because they're

564
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: growing out of pigment cells that are like just pigment away.

565
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: That's right, and I learned that on the Dollar Shave

566
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Speaker 2: Club blog. Oh and they say also to just kind

567
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: of pluck because shaving, if you're a man like say

568
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 2: you have one on your face or whatever, it can

569
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: nick very very frequently. Yeah.

570
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Speaker 1: Well, I've got some of the skin tags that obviously

571
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Speaker 1: don't shave, so it's not a problem now.

572
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: But well, maybe that's why you have skin tags. If

573
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: you shave, you just shave them off all the time,

574
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: trim them down.

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00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that's why.

576
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: No. Now, the skin.

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00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: Tags come from like clothing rubbing against the skin. That's

578
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: why they're around the neckline a lot of times, or

579
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: sometimes around the waistline, so you know. But again, those

580
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: aren't birthmarks. Okay, those are old man marks I got

581
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: you acquired moles. They come around later in life as well.

582
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: And this is not the same as the skin tags. Still,

583
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: it is still a mole. And a lot of doctors

584
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Speaker 1: think that this is from sun damage.

585
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: Yes, but not necessarily cancerous, which leads us into the

586
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: third type of mole, atypical moles. These aren't necessarily cancerous either,

587
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: but they're the kind you definitely want to keep an

588
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: eye on. There'll be multiple colors or have some sort

589
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Speaker 2: of color gradient in them. Their shape will be just

590
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: kind of amorphous, irregular. Yeah, they'll be just kind of

591
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: you'll be like that don't look quite right. That's that

592
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: kind of mole. And those are the kind that you

593
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: definitely want to have a doctor check out because a

594
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: lot of people don't know this, but an atypical mole

595
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: is associated with melanoma, and melanoma is no joke. I

596
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: think a lot of people are like, melonima's nothing. You

597
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: just go, you know, get it removed at the doctor. No,

598
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: melanoma can spread like lightning through your body and it

599
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: can be a real problem. It's a very serious thing

600
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: to keep up with.

601
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a pretty sad situation with a family

602
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: member with melanoma. Yeah that I think the treatment is

603
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: going really well, but it is. It has definitely opened

604
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: my eyes to the fact that it's no joke.

605
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no idea, you me open my eyes.

606
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: She had somebody that she lost to melanomas. She saw

607
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: the same thing like melanoma. Then no, that's not at

608
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: all how it is, which is really weird because somebody's

609
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: dropping the ball because most people just think it's nothing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

611
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: On messaging. Yeah, yeah, I agree with myself.

612
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: Apparently it's interesting that different kinds of cancer have better

613
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: or worse PR.

614
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, great product, terrible marketing, right, Yeah, it's kind of

615
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: what we're dealing with here. But I know that.

616
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: Prostate cancer has often lagged behind breast cancer, Like breast

617
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: cancer does a bang up job of marketing and press

618
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: and PR and awareness. So these, like you said, the

619
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Speaker 1: doctors will want to monitor these over time. What I

620
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out was what is the quote unquote beauty mark?

621
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: Is that an acquired mole?

622
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Speaker 2: I think a beauty mark is any kind of mole

623
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: that's just like, I'm living with this and I'm loving

624
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: every minute of it.

625
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: It's so interesting how that has become a thing.

626
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out where it went back to. Obviously,

627
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe like really kind of popularized that, right, I

628
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: think it predated her, Like Liz Taylor is at least contemporary,

629
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: if not pre dating. Yeah, he's very famous for one.

630
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 2: And then like even still today, Cindy Crawford, Scargo, who else, Oh,

631
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: Natalie Portman apparently has them like on her her face. Interesting.

632
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: I went over this list of CELEBRITI I was like,

633
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: celebrity birthmarks. The only one that comes up though, is moles.

634
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: Could not I couldn't find any like well known celebrities

635
00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: with birthmarks like birthmarks, birthmarks like facial birthmarks. You just

636
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: I couldn't think of one either. I couldn't find any.

637
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: Well, that's probably because of the prejudice against.

638
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: Them, I would guess, so, yeah, which is sad. Yeah,

639
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: it reminded me though, Chuck. Didn't one of the Fat

640
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: Albert gang have a birthmark on his face? I don't know.

641
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: Was he the guy that had the pulled his toboggan

642
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: cap over his face? No, I think that was mushmouth,

643
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: because you never see his face at all. Well, then

644
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: how would you know if he had a birthmark?

645
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

646
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: I just thought that might have been a like a

647
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: backstory or something.

648
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: I think this just went off the rails enough for

649
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: a message break, don't you sure?

650
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be back right after this and we'll talk

651
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: about treatment and what I think is a pretty interesting thing,

652
00:33:45,360 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: superstitions throughout history about birthmark's greed. All right, So, like

653
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: we said about most of these birthmarks, usually medical treatment

654
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: is not necessary, but some are monitored over time. And

655
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: what doctors will do, obviously is examine them, take some pictures,

656
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: and then just sort of follow that over time, that

657
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: same routine to see if they're changing, and to see

658
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: if they're getting bigger or changing shape or anything unusual.

659
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: It's a wait and see, yes, exactly if you have hamangiomas,

660
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: they will frequently use. Like a port wine stain is

661
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: something that a lot of people go seek treatment for

662
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: because it's often on the face, the neck, and it

663
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 2: actually responds pretty well to a laser treatment, something called

664
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: a pulsed dye laser.

665
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: Is this like the same tattoo treatment or no? Probably

666
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: because that's pretty painful, right. Oh, yes, Like I can't

667
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: amat because it says children a lot of times can

668
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: be treated with this laser treatment.

669
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: But man, I know it's sad. It feels a lot

670
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: like having like a hot bacon grease splashing on your skin.

671
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: That's what if getting a laser or tattoo remove with

672
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 2: a laser.

673
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: But without the knowledge that like in a couple of minutes,

674
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be eating some sweet bacon.

675
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: More like if the only silver lining to it is

676
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: that a pig didn't die for you to be in

677
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: that situation, you know what I mean, right, or.

678
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: I won't have whatever tattoo I obviously don't want on

679
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: my body anymore. That's the reward.

680
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 2: There, right. So if that is the case, then if

681
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: it is the same feeling as that, then yeah, I

682
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: feel bad for the little kids who get that. But

683
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 2: that's the best time to start this treatment is when

684
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: the child is young, because again, what you're what you're

685
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: doing is you're using a pulse dye laser, which uses

686
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: a certain frequency or spectrum wavelength of light that is

687
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: targeted so that that birthmark will absorb that light. The

688
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: surrounding skin is a different pigment, so it won't absorb

689
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: that light like the birthmark. Well, and that energy, that

690
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: light energy is translated into heat energy in the birthmark

691
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 2: and there go the cells or the blood vessels that

692
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: make up the cells. And after enough treatments you've hopefully

693
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: broken up the hamangioma or the port wine stain and

694
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: like the birthmark will go away. Did you hear that?

695
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: Did you hear that? That was me? I think the No,

696
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: it was me, No, that was mine. Well, then we

697
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: just had a simultaneous stomach growl because my stomach just

698
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: growled at the same time, Wow, are we like yeah,

699
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: after twelve years of podcasting together.

700
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: So if you are getting something removed, it's usually a

701
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: vascular birthmark. Generally they don't try and get rid of

702
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: pigmented birth marks, although it's possible, I think, but usually

703
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: doctors don't treat that.

704
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: No. But if you if you have a child with

705
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 2: say a cafe Ola birthmark on their on their face,

706
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: the doctor's not going to be like, no, we're not

707
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: doing that. They'll they'll probably try to work it out,

708
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: but the results are not nearly as reliable as with

709
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: vascular birth marks, which have to do with blood vessels

710
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: beneath the skin clustered together, overdeveloped, that kind of thing.

711
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: Or what your doctor might say is you know what,

712
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: this thing's on your forehead, grow your bangs out until

713
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: you get old enough to where you accept this as

714
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: an individual trait that you're proud of.

715
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: There's something called the British Association of Skin Camouflage that

716
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: is dedicated to helping people actually training makeup artists on

717
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: how to cover birthmarks because for some people they'll just

718
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: never get used to it. They don't want to have

719
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: to get used to it. They just rather cover it up,

720
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: and that's their right, that's their prerogative. Yes, they're birth mark.

721
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: They can do whatever they want with it. And so

722
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: the average makeup artists doesn't know how to do that.

723
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: It actually takes special skills apparently, and so there's groups

724
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: who train people so interesting to do that. Yeah, we

725
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 2: should do I don't know, I don't.

726
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: Know if it's a short stuff for full length, but

727
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: we should do something on vital igo.

728
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

729
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 1: I had a friend in La who who had vidal igo.

730
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: And again, like just same with some of this stuff.

731
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: It's such a forward facing thing if it's on your face,

732
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: and it's a big deal to people. It's an important

733
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: it's important issue because like the bullying like we were

734
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: talking about, were just kids and adults remaining self conscious

735
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: about that kind of thing, right, It's it's sad.

736
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: It is sad. Agreed. I think we could all do

737
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: a lot better at accepting people with facial differences. What

738
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: it's called.

739
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something on facial differences.

740
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: I don't remember what it was, but I know I've

741
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 2: mentioned this group before, Changingfaces dot Org.

742
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awesome.

743
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: They're just there. Their whole thing is like, hey, actually

744
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: it's funny they are. They promote skinned camouflage if you

745
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 2: want it, but they're also they're big pushes. Like, hey,

746
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: rest of society, there's nothing different about these people except

747
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: for their face. Like they're not cognitively challenged. They're they're

748
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: not disabled in any way or differently able to their

749
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 2: face is different for any number of reasons, and it's

750
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 2: really kind of on the rest of you to get

751
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: over it. Yeah, you know, which I think is the

752
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: healthiest approach if you ask me.

753
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: So the superstitions we were talking about, I know we

754
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: mentioned a couple early on, like that you were touched

755
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: by the devil, like that was real stuff. In some

756
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 1: cultures in China, there were some quirky ones like if

757
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: you have a right foot birthmark means you're adventurous. It's

758
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: on the left foot, it means you're really smart. If

759
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: it's on your tom Tom's that means you're greedy. And

760
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: this is just sort of you know, culture and.

761
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: Folklore sure the world around so because we can't explain

762
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: what birthmarks are where they come from all over the world,

763
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: people's societies. So it's something the mom did while she

764
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: was pregnant, of course, and so we came up with

765
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: all sorts of dipstick ideas for exactly what the mom

766
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: did wrong to explain birthmarks.

767
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

768
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: One of my favorites is that the mom was startled

769
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: and touched her face.

770
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: Oh so the baby, and at.

771
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: The exact same moment, the baby's blood vessels at that

772
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 2: point in the baby's face formed a birthmark. It's very scientific.

773
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: Or how about this, If you have a strawberry mark

774
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: as a baby, it's because mom ate too many red things.

775
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, or can't lay off the strawberries.

776
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: Or port wine staining. They couldn't lay off the wine, yeah,

777
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: Or coffee cafel a coffee that's so on the nose, Like,

778
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: come on, people.

779
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 2: It is. There's this thing called the doctrine of signs,

780
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: where like if a food looked like a body part,

781
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 2: it was associated with helping to heal that body part.

782
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: Like beats are good for the for the blood or

783
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:57,240
Speaker 2: something like that.

784
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: Or avocados are good for the testicles.

785
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: Exactly. I was hoping you would bring that up.

786
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: Let me see what else. In Japan, if a pregnant

787
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: woman looked at a fire or into a flame of

788
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 1: some kind, they thought that might cause a burn mark.

789
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 2: On the baby skin. Yep.

790
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: And I think some of these carry forward a little

791
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: bit even today.

792
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: Well, the x ray one is obviously fairly modern.

793
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: Oh sure.

794
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: Like the explanation is that the mom got an X

795
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: ray while she was pregnant and it basically left a

796
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: mark on the baby. Yeah, that's not true. That is

797
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: not true. The one that really is always stuck out

798
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: to me, and it reminded me of this case I

799
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: want to tell you about. Is this idea that a

800
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: birthmark is actually a mark left over from a past life.

801
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: This is pretty neat, Like if you have a birthmark

802
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: that looks like a bullet hole in your back, that

803
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: means you were shot in the back right in.

804
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: A past life, and not just like that's what that means.

805
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: Like there are there are I really hesitate to use

806
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: this where they're documented cases of this happening. And supposedly

807
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: there was this kid in Syria who was born with

808
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: like a kind of like a slash like birthmark I think,

809
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: on the back of his head, and apparently from a

810
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 2: very early age, when the kid was able to start

811
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: to talk, started recounting being murdered with an axe. Oh interesting,

812
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: and then started talking about the village where he used

813
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: to live and who is what his name was? And

814
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: then the guy that killed him, and it was enough

815
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: allegedly that the village elders where this kid lived were like,

816
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: we need to go check this out. So they traveled

817
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: to that other village and they said, does so and

818
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: so live here? And they're like, yeah, he lives over there.

819
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, did somebody else name this live here?

820
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: Once they're like, yes, he died, he vanished mysteriously, and

821
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 2: they went and talked to it. They went and talked

822
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: to the accuser. He broke down and confessed and showed

823
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: him where they buried the body that this kid supposedly

824
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: was in the past life. Wow, who was murdered by

825
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: an axe? There's just no way that that happened. But

826
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: I love reading about stuff like that. The part of

827
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 2: me that's like, yeah, that subscribed to that time life

828
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: books of like paranormal phenomena, Yeah, still loves stories like that.

829
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you lost me when you said village elders.

830
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, because.

831
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: You know they're the same ones that are like, well

832
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: you're a witch too because of that?

833
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: Right?

834
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah?

835
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: See if she floats?

836
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: Right? So what else you got any others let me

837
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: see here.

838
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: While we talked about the Devil's mark, supposedly am Boleyn

839
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: was accused of witch.

840
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: Craftory supposedly, I saw also that she most decidedly was not.

841
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: Oh really, Yeah, I think that's the legend all.

842
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: Right, possession by the devil. Yeah, it could be another one.

843
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: And one thing that we did know was that definitely

844
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: did happen historically, is from the seventeenth to the nineteenth centuries,

845
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 2: if you were Russian nobility, you proved it by displaying

846
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: your birthmark.

847
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, what's what was the family

848
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: of the Romanovs.

849
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty interesting, which actually holds water because they think

850
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 2: that some birthmarks may be congenital. It's entirely possible that

851
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: a family line, especially one that kind of kept them themselves,

852
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I know what you mean,

853
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 2: could conceivably pass down something like a birthmark. Yeah, and

854
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 2: so unless you do you have anything else, No, I

855
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: don't chuck take it away.

856
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: I think we just should close by really like stressing

857
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: to any kids listening and parents of children.

858
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: That vascular birthmarks have to do with blood vessels under

859
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: the skin.

860
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: No, just explain to your kids if there's another kid

861
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: in their class, as you know, a pretty obvious birthmark

862
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: that they're just the same. Yeah, and don't don't tease

863
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: kids for that stuff. If you're a kid that's young

864
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 1: and listening, we all look different, we all have different

865
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: skin tones. Yeah, just don't be a jerk.

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Speaker 2: No, I think that's really great advice.

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Speaker 1: No, I think the golden rule. Think about how you

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Speaker 1: might feel if somebody was making fun of something about

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Speaker 1: your body.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one too. Yeah. If you want to

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00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: know more about parenting, well you could just listen to

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Speaker 2: all of our other episodes. And since I said that,

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Speaker 2: it's time for listener mail.

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Speaker 1: This is from Ryan and Lucy, the aforementioned band name ref.

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Speaker 1: They have been to our shows at the Bell House

876
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 1: a couple of times, a few times and let me

877
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: see where are they from here? Road trips between New

878
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Speaker 1: York and Providence, And then they've seen us at the

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Speaker 1: Bell House and they said, we realize how much we

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Speaker 1: get a kick out of the various band names, and

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Speaker 1: we started to inventory them a few years ago. Since

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Speaker 1: our wedding ends next week, we realize that now it's

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Speaker 1: a perfect time to just go ahead and send you

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Speaker 1: the list. I'm not sure why that has anything to

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Speaker 1: do any but Ryan and Lucy congratulations for what it's worth.

886
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: Ryan's favorite is worm burden. Oh yeah, from the hookworm

887
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: and Lucy's mouth parts. That's from a lot of episodes.

888
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Speaker 1: But we'll just buzz through these really quickly, just for

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Speaker 1: nostyalgia's sake, and aspiring bands jump in and take these.

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Speaker 2: And give us some money for him.

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Speaker 1: There's some real gold in here.

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Speaker 2: Are we doing all those?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I'll go through them quickly. A fistful of neurons, warm burden,

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Speaker 1: tub of pulp. I know you want to comment on everyone,

897
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: don't you just throw in what you think is really

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Speaker 1: good threat simulation theory. Poor Fred Noonan, I remember that one,

899
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Speaker 1: yea sweet give me the teat. I don't remember that one.

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00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: It was from Uncanny Valley, but I don't remember saying

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Speaker 1: that was a band.

902
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: Or even how it would relate to it.

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00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: This is for movie crush. Sick vandalism that's a good one,

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00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: flesh on the chunks, hot plastic injection, pyrocastic flow, that's

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Speaker 1: a good one. Flaming death bolts, pintos that is a

906
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: legendary one, conceptual walls, framing him cohort.

907
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: Offspring cohort, omnikohort, third generation cohort offspring, spousal cohort.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember any of those.

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00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 2: All those were from that heart study.

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Speaker 1: Okay, oh that's right. Cortical homunculus. That's pretty good, medieval synthesis,

911
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: magic bullet. Eh. I want to retract this next one

912
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: because apparently I said Herbal Douches was a good man named.

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Speaker 2: I take that back. Okay, that's terrible.

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00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: Slaughtered narwaal peck lube, sex link, processive manhole incidents.

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00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: That's a good one. Graphic spew, gross nuclear bulge, love it.

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Speaker 2: Local group. That's kind of dumb. Oh no, I can

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Speaker 2: see that. It's kind of like Scrantonicity. Oh sure, yeah.

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Speaker 2: The Electric Death Commission. I love that one.

919
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Speaker 1: Yeah, doctor Foss, bomb drop.

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Speaker 2: What was that one?

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Speaker 1: Michael Dylon, Huh, I don't remember exactly what that referenced,

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Speaker 1: death Master file, mouth fart, the of course, the classic

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Speaker 1: frozen poop knife. Yeah, sloth moths, radioactive cats, that one's dumb.

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Speaker 2: Static crush. I like that one.

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Speaker 1: Damage Night not bad. The descriptivists, Eh, that's a little haughty.

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Speaker 2: I think sure, but I could be kind of like

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Speaker 2: Mumferge and Suns kind of music, right, yeah, exactly, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Oh gotcha, it.

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Speaker 1: Sounds too much like Decembrists.

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Speaker 2: I think that is exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Bathtub Jin Wasted on Excitement. That's an album title, he says,

932
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Speaker 1: But that's pretty good as a band, Mother Culture, Jungle

933
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Speaker 1: x Ray very recent, wet record the album from Jungle

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Speaker 1: x Ray, two, Whale Bolt from Corduroy, and then Going Postal,

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Speaker 1: which he says is a lot of bands are called that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you look that up, even didnto it?

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Speaker 1: I think so those are good.

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Speaker 2: We always, always, anytime we talk about great band names

939
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Speaker 2: from episodes, have to give a shout out, especially when

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Speaker 2: Frozen Poop Knife comes up to Diarrhea Planet.

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Speaker 1: Well, he had that on the list. I think he

942
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Speaker 1: didn't quite understand that that is a real.

943
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: Band, old band that pre dates Frozen Poop Knife. I know.

944
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Speaker 1: I'd like to think that they've been tweeted at over

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Speaker 1: the years.

946
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Speaker 2: Oh they've tweeted to us.

947
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Speaker 1: Oh that's right, they have, right, they said, they.

948
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Speaker 2: Said, hey, sorry, we're gonna stick with our thanks for

949
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Speaker 2: thinking of it. Yeah. In other words, shut up. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it depends on how you

951
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: look at the world. Yeah, okay, so I think that's

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Speaker 2: it everybody. I don't remember what's going on anymore. But

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