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Speaker 1: We are going to lay out the off season to

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Speaker 1: do list for the Philadelphia Phillies right now with Ruben

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Speaker 1: Tomorrow Junior, and you can catch rum in a lot

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Speaker 1: of different spots, including on Phillies broadcasts and the so

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Speaker 1: popular Phillies Show one of the three stars of the

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Speaker 1: show there, Ruben. Great to have you on and let's

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Speaker 1: do this right from the jump. You know this and

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Speaker 1: how to do this more than anyone. As a former

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Speaker 1: GM of the Phillies, how would you lay out their

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Speaker 1: off season strategy one through three? Top of your list.

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Speaker 2: Great to be with you guys right out of the shoot.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's a more important position than the

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Speaker 3: catching position.

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Speaker 2: On the field. I know Kratzy well would believe that.

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Speaker 3: Number One, I think they have to figure out what

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Speaker 3: they're going to be doing at the catching position.

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Speaker 2: Obviously with JT. Realmuto being a free agent, that's a

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Speaker 3: Number Two, they got to figure out that big bat

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Speaker 3: in the middle of the lineup, whether it's going to

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Speaker 3: end up being you know, the kyleeg Sharberers of the world,

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Speaker 3: but you know that big bat in the middle of

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Speaker 3: the lineup that's really important for them.

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Speaker 2: And then finally, it's the bullpen.

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Speaker 3: They have to tighten that bullpen up and get somebody

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Speaker 3: to take the baseball to Juan Duran, I think the

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Speaker 2: Those would be the three and in that order for me.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, catcher the most important position on the field,

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Speaker 4: not some utility in field or whatever position you really were.

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Speaker 4: I know you played some left, but whatever catcher is it?

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Speaker 2: JT.

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Speaker 4: Real, Muto or bust for the Phillies Because you look

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Speaker 4: at the market, there's not a lot out there. And

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Speaker 4: I don't think Aaron Stubbs and Raphael Marshawan are putting

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Speaker 4: together one hundred and sixty two games between the two

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Speaker 2: I would tend to agree with you. I like Marshaan

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if he can if he can

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Speaker 3: catch one hundred games, one hundred and ten games. I

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Speaker 3: like Stubby as well. I like both of those guys.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know whether you can put your egg

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Speaker 3: in that basket. And JT is as good as anybody preparing.

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Speaker 3: I think the pitchers have a tremendous amount of confidence

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Speaker 3: in his preparation, his knowledge what they feel and how

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Speaker 3: they feel throwing to him. I think in a lot

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Speaker 3: of ways, it is JT or bust, And if it's

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Speaker 3: not JT, then they're gonna have to figure out some way,

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Speaker 3: some ingenious way to try to get somebody in a trade, somehow,

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Speaker 3: some way. Just because, with all due respect to raf

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Speaker 3: L Marshawn and to Garrett Stubbs, I mean, you're talking

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Speaker 3: about two pretty garden good backups. I just don't know

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Speaker 3: that with the importance of what you know this team

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Speaker 3: is about, which is pitching. I think that's their biggest strength.

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Speaker 4: I want to reiterate what you said there because you

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Speaker 4: actually had a conversation with me after my twenty twelve season.

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Speaker 4: People were like, well, do they need to re sign

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Speaker 4: had a good season, but a backup is way different

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Speaker 4: than a starting catcher. Can you say what goes into

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Speaker 4: maybe trying to sign a guy like this who clearly

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Speaker 4: sees the team you were a GM, sees the team

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Speaker 4: needs a starting catcher. He's probably gonna get in a

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Speaker 4: three year, fifteen million dollar range. How hard is that

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Speaker 4: for you? And I know, you worked with mister Montgomery

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Speaker 4: when you were the GM, and he was very straightforward.

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Speaker 4: He was very much market Hey, we want to treat

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Speaker 4: this guy right. How hard is that for you as

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Speaker 4: a GM when you're trying to lure him back? Oh,

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Speaker 4: and you really need it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's difficult.

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Speaker 3: It's a little bit of a rock and a hard

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Speaker 3: place because the you know, the agent knows, and the

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Speaker 3: know that the marketplace out there is not very strong.

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Speaker 2: I mean, where else are they going to go?

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Speaker 3: That said, I do think JT loves it in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: I think this is the place he wants to be.

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Speaker 3: They did have a situation like this earlier in his

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Speaker 3: not the first time this might happen. But I think

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Speaker 3: that JAT also owes it to himself to find out

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Speaker 3: being a free agent, and that's what he's gonna do.

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Speaker 3: There may be a team out there that goes crazy.

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Speaker 3: Buster Posey might say, the Giants might say, Hey, guess what, brother,

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Speaker 3: I need a catcher too. I'm gonna go to four years.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go to some ridiculous number. Who knows

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Speaker 3: does Steve Cohen go that crazy knowing that even though

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Speaker 3: he's got a young catcher, you know, in his stable,

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Speaker 3: maybe he wants to get a veteran guy because he

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Speaker 3: knows how important that catching position is. Who knows, I

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Speaker 3: know it's important. The whole industry knows it's important. And

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Speaker 3: he's really the only guy out there. He is older,

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Speaker 3: and his offensive numbers are starting to drift south, but

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Speaker 3: his ability to handle the staff is as good as

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Speaker 3: any in baseball. And you know, you start thinking about

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Speaker 3: sort of have to overpay for that, And I think

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Speaker 3: that's what the Phillies you're gonna have to do.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Ruben, nice to officially meet you. We're gonna move

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Speaker 5: down that checklist and go to the big bat. Kyle

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Speaker 5: Schwarber probably the obvious choice, but it feels like the

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Speaker 5: theme of the offseason right now is breaking up the band.

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Speaker 5: You know, we saw what happened with Marcus Sime and

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia where I know Schwarber is not the problem in

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Speaker 5: But is it Are they at the point where they've

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Speaker 5: where the Phillies can really go.

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Speaker 2: KP.

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Speaker 3: This is why, and great to see you again and

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Speaker 3: to meet you here on on territory. I have to

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Speaker 3: off seasons ever because yes, they have two great players

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Speaker 2: But at the same.

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Speaker 3: Time, they cannot run it back. They just cannot do

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Speaker 3: mix it up now.

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Speaker 2: So where do they go?

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Speaker 3: I do believe that Schwarber is one of the most

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Speaker 3: to be a teammate.

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Speaker 2: His teammates love him. He is a community service guy.

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Speaker 3: He's really the total package and it's really nice to

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Speaker 3: And the difficulty of that is, if you bring him

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Speaker 3: change things up? This is where Dave Dombrowski's you know,

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Speaker 2: It sounds crazy.

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Speaker 3: Even though I would love to have Schwarber back and

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Speaker 2: Maybe they bring up Pete Alonzo in.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they think that that's the right handed bat that

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Speaker 5: In terms of if Shoorber doesn't come back, are Harper's

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Speaker 2: I think it's more of a leader by committee.

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Speaker 3: Just to answer your last question first, I think Schwarber

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Speaker 2: Quiet leader.

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Speaker 3: Also, a lot of these guys starts. I think this

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Speaker 3: quote unquote energy or raw Rod type guys, and I

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Speaker 3: I think it was important because everybody's just so calm

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Speaker 3: and professional that maybe you do need a little swagger,

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Speaker 3: Maybe you do need a little something something in that clubhouse.

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Speaker 3: It's it is so interesting to see how things will

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Speaker 3: play out. As far as Harper is concerned, He's they're

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Speaker 3: really happy with him at first base. He's made an

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Speaker 3: amazing adjustment. He's made himself a pretty damn good first baseman.

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Speaker 4: All right off your list and maybe not necessarily the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well they're sort of locked into you know, they're

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Speaker 2: He might be a higher value. And that's one of

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Speaker 6: Can you bring somebody who is a sort of a

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Speaker 1: In the middle of your order.

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Speaker 4: I guess they could always move on to Aiden Miller

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Speaker 4: the outfit, all that stuff. You got to listen to

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Speaker 4: the Philly Show. But that's my last question. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: guess it's a question The Philly Show, unbelievable show you do.

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Speaker 4: You guys do a great job, but it's Todd's Alecki,

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Speaker 4: Jim Salisbury and you Ruben Tomorrow. Who is Manny, Moe

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Speaker 2: I think the straight man is is Todd's Alecki and me,

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Speaker 3: You never know what you're gonna get out of me.

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Speaker 3: But but I would say I would be the Moe,

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Speaker 2: That's sort of my guess.

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Speaker 1: Well Ruben, great stuff, dude, Awesome to have you, thanks

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