WEBVTT - CZM Book Club: The Lamb Will Slaughter the Lion: Part Three

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<v Speaker 1>Full Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to It Could Happen Here Book Club. I'm Robert Evans.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a podcast about things falling apart, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is our special weekend edition of It Could Happen Here,

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<v Speaker 2>where Margaret Killjoy and myself sit down and read a story. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Margaret reads the story at this point, I am listening

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<v Speaker 2>to it. Presumably the format we'll switch up at some point,

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<v Speaker 2>but right now, Margaret, how are we? I'm excited for

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<v Speaker 2>part three of the first Daniel Kine book. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>excited to give it to me?

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<v Speaker 3>I am excited to give it to you, Robert. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when we switch up the format, you'll just

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<v Speaker 3>make up a story as we go, well, like at

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<v Speaker 3>the stop in the middle of the chapter, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you just make up what happens. Yeah, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 3>just called Dungeons and Dragons. Actually, oh yeah, we could

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<v Speaker 3>call it Dungeons and Dragons. I was just gonna read

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<v Speaker 3>from one of my Thomas Pension books because no one

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<v Speaker 3>else is act no one's no one has actually ever

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<v Speaker 3>finished one, so it'll it'll be as if I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just making up a story. I admit I've never finished

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<v Speaker 3>a Thomas Bench no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, of course not why there's things to do in

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<v Speaker 2>the world. Markret you gotta finish at Thomas Pinsion book.

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<v Speaker 3>As I get older, I have more interest in, like

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<v Speaker 3>finally sitting down and reading War and Peace and all

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<v Speaker 3>that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just keep looking at my copy of Alan

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<v Speaker 2>Moore's Jerusalem and going one day.

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<v Speaker 3>One day exactly, that'll be like when we're finally and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll do the book club version, will be like a

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<v Speaker 3>book club presents War and Peace followed by Jerusalem followed

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<v Speaker 3>by infinite jest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, finally. Or we'll get Jamie loftus On for

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<v Speaker 2>that one. She loves reading infinitsh jest.

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<v Speaker 3>Or we'll read novella's by I once ran my I

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<v Speaker 3>won't tell people I once ran one of my books through.

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<v Speaker 3>What grade level is this adult book that I wrote?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was very proud to say that one of

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<v Speaker 3>my books was written at a fifth or sixth grade

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<v Speaker 3>reading level.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you need baby, I did all my real important

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<v Speaker 2>reading by the time I was six.

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<v Speaker 3>Great.

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<v Speaker 2>I've actually been I'm friends with this baby now, so

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<v Speaker 2>I've been reading some uh Doctor Seuss with her, and man,

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<v Speaker 2>those are good books. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the human human condition contained with an hop

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<v Speaker 2>on pop. I hadn't realized.

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<v Speaker 3>Once you move up to shel Silverstein m oh now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>directly from there to Danielle Kine.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, the Shell Silverstein of Vaguely Lovecrafty and Horror,

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<v Speaker 2>the action Punk.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say Shell silver wrote that Scooby Doo. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I I gave up on asterisk punk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I uh, that's that's the next AI generated thing

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to see Shelf Silverstein's Scooby do.

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<v Speaker 3>So where we last left our heroes, We're starting with

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<v Speaker 3>chapter five. Everyone else will have just heard, presumably like

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<v Speaker 3>a week ago, chapter four, but we haven't heard it

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<v Speaker 3>in a moment because there was a break between recordings.

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<v Speaker 3>And so Daniel Caine is showed up to a town.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a three antler deer that's goring people, and some

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<v Speaker 3>people in the town love it, and some people in

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<v Speaker 3>the town hate it, and the town is gearing up

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<v Speaker 3>for some conflict. Chapter five, My second night in Freedom

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<v Speaker 3>began more somberly than my first. It was well after

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<v Speaker 3>dark by the time Vulture showed up with potatoes and

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<v Speaker 3>onions and spring greens to be cooked before heading back

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<v Speaker 3>to the lookout rock. The days in Brn were in

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<v Speaker 3>the living room working through plans, which left me alone

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<v Speaker 3>to cook. I was happy to spend some time in

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<v Speaker 3>the kitchen. It had been a long time since I've

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<v Speaker 3>been surrounded by people living the way I wanted to live,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was almost able to convince myself that things

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<v Speaker 3>were going to be fine. I've got a long history

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<v Speaker 3>of scraping together little moments of peace in the midst

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<v Speaker 3>of hardship, and cooking is a great way to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I cubed the potatoes, and, alongside lots of garlic and oil,

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<v Speaker 3>set them in a pan in the oven. I went

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<v Speaker 3>through their spice rack and realized half of what they

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<v Speaker 3>had had been grown, dried, and chopped here in town.

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<v Speaker 3>I let myself get lost in the smell of fresh

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<v Speaker 3>and dried herbs. The Brussels sprouts were from the food bank,

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<v Speaker 3>but were going to taste amazing regardless. I cut them up,

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<v Speaker 3>drizzled them with oil and salt, put them in the

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<v Speaker 3>second tray. I've made fancier meals in my life, but

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<v Speaker 3>it still felt good. I set the old fashioned kitchen

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<v Speaker 3>timer and went to join everyone else. You can't figure

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<v Speaker 3>it out, Brune asked, she was pacing. She didn't strike

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<v Speaker 3>me as the typoo worried much, but she was worried.

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<v Speaker 3>Even Doomsday looked paler than usual. She leaned back in

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<v Speaker 3>her easy chair, feigning nonchalance, but her teacup trembled in

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<v Speaker 3>her hand. I didn't leave the ritual. I was blindfolded.

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<v Speaker 3>I've spent and all day pouring over my books and

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<v Speaker 3>there's nothing there. Nothing, nothing about dismissing a spirit, Brene asked,

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<v Speaker 3>Or nothing about you, Lyxi. Nothing. Thursday was standing statuesque

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<v Speaker 3>at his partner's side. There was certainly more to their

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<v Speaker 3>relationship than him trying his hardest to guard her. I

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<v Speaker 3>was sure, but times call for us to fulfill certain roles.

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<v Speaker 3>Will Rebecca know how, Burne asked. I don't think so,

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<v Speaker 3>Doomsday said. Vulture went to warn her last night, and

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<v Speaker 3>how did he put it? She's gone paranoid. Jet fuel

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<v Speaker 3>can't melt steel beams. Level paranoid made him show her

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<v Speaker 3>his ribs, Vulture said, And I agree that you only

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<v Speaker 3>get that kind of paranoid when you've just got no

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<v Speaker 3>agency at all, when you wish you had control over

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<v Speaker 3>your life, but you just don't. She and Clay planned

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<v Speaker 3>the ritual together. I don't know that either of them

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't know how to do it alone. What are our options,

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<v Speaker 3>Bern asked, If we leave town take Rebecca with us,

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<v Speaker 3>will it come after us? Thursday asked it probably can't,

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<v Speaker 3>Doomsday said, but it's a moot point. I won't leave

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<v Speaker 3>without cleaning up my own mess. Rebecca's place is warded, too,

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<v Speaker 3>Thursday asked, Eulyxie can't get her if you and Rebecca

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<v Speaker 3>stay inside, what's it going to do? Nothing? Attack the

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<v Speaker 3>people close to you. I have no idea, Doomsday said.

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<v Speaker 3>She set down her tee untouched, then pulled her feet

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<v Speaker 3>up onto the chair and hugged her knees. Where are

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<v Speaker 3>Clay's notebooks? I asked? People turned to me, realizing for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time I was in the room. The only

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<v Speaker 3>thing he liked more than the sound of his own

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<v Speaker 3>voice was the sight of his own handwriting, I said.

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<v Speaker 3>When he died, he didn't have any of his journals

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<v Speaker 3>on him. They lived with Anchor for a while. Brynn said.

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<v Speaker 3>They broke up last winter, and Clay took it kind

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<v Speaker 3>of badly. No one knows what they were fighting about

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<v Speaker 3>though for a year and a half they were inseparable.

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<v Speaker 3>Then a week of quarreling and it was over. They

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<v Speaker 3>were fighting about Ulixe. Doomsday said anchor, worshiped it as

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<v Speaker 3>it was, didn't need to know anything more about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Clay wanted to understand it, so he moved into the

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<v Speaker 3>basement of that gas station down by the bridge where

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<v Speaker 3>it lives. He moved in with it. I asked, Doomsday nodded,

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<v Speaker 3>So if Clay left notebooks, they'd be there. Doomsday nodded.

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<v Speaker 3>We have to go get them, bring them to Rebecca.

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<v Speaker 3>Doomsday was lost in thought. Slowly she nodded the dear thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, it's only up during the day, right, powerless

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<v Speaker 3>at night.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, when you know you're going to do something anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>it's better not to overthink it. Definitely better not to

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<v Speaker 3>let your mind linger on the cost benefit analysis. But

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<v Speaker 3>going to find his notebooks got me closer to solving

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<v Speaker 3>both my problems all at once. I could find out

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<v Speaker 3>what happened to Clay, and I could help this Rebecca person.

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<v Speaker 3>Dismiss Youlxy and hope Doomsday wasn't going to summon something worse,

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<v Speaker 3>something that lived up to her name. I'll take you,

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<v Speaker 3>Brynn said, I'll lend you my gun in case the

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<v Speaker 3>ghouls are out, Doomsday said. She crossed the room and

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<v Speaker 3>went up the stairs. I didn't want the rules to

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<v Speaker 3>be out, neither of we have to do this. Thursday said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we do, Brynn said. Doomsday came down the stairs two

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<v Speaker 3>at a time, her hand on the banister. It's gone,

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<v Speaker 3>she said, my gun's gone. Anyone else would have asked

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<v Speaker 3>Thursday if he'd put it away the night before, But

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<v Speaker 3>Doomsday didn't even entertain the possibility that our partner would

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<v Speaker 3>have handled the fire army responsibly. Eric, Brynn said during

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<v Speaker 3>the funeral. Now, Doomsday said, we saw him the entire time,

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<v Speaker 3>except maybe the ten minutes we stepped away. He stayed

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<v Speaker 3>there the whole time. I said, Eric, wouldn't know we

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<v Speaker 3>had a gun, wouldn't know where it would be. He's

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<v Speaker 3>never in the house, Kestrol, I said, wasn't it at

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<v Speaker 3>the funeral the whole time too? Thursday asked, I knew

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<v Speaker 3>I was the most likely third suspect, and what I

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<v Speaker 3>was about to tell them wasn't gonna help. No, I said,

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<v Speaker 3>Kestrel wasn't there. At the end, I told them about

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<v Speaker 3>meeting Eric, about our conversation in the park, about how

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<v Speaker 3>Kestrel showed up late. He'd had plenty of time to

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<v Speaker 3>steal the gun. It's not nice to wrap people out

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<v Speaker 3>like that, but it's also not nice to steal people's guns.

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<v Speaker 3>Doom Thursday said, can we keep you away from the windows?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe take Brinn's room. He climbed up on the couch

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<v Speaker 3>to lock the window. Likely there were bars ready to

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<v Speaker 3>go over the doors. There's not a squatter alive who

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't been through their house and analyzed all the ways

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<v Speaker 3>the police might break in. Hell, usually we've already broken

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<v Speaker 3>in once ourselves. Thursday left to secure the house against

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<v Speaker 3>human intruders, and Doomsday made her way, defeated up the stairs.

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<v Speaker 3>Brenn and I stood in the living room, facing one another,

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<v Speaker 3>getting ready to head into the night. The kitchen timer

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<v Speaker 3>went off, dinner was ready, no one was in the

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<v Speaker 3>mood to enjoy it. We walked down the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the street and I was calmer than I thought i'd be,

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<v Speaker 3>probably because I had a plan. I had something I

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<v Speaker 3>was going to do. I wore my pack emptied, but

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<v Speaker 3>for some essentials we had no idea how many books

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<v Speaker 3>we'd be trying to bring with us, so the extra

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<v Speaker 3>storage was important. It had been dark for hours, and

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<v Speaker 3>I scanned the power lines with those creepy ghoul birds.

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<v Speaker 3>Either they weren't there or I couldn't see them. What

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<v Speaker 3>I did see were torches below us, coming up from

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<v Speaker 3>the river. People were walking with torches. I counted a

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<v Speaker 3>dozen specks of flame dancing through the night. Brynn saw

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<v Speaker 3>them too, mourners, she said, people celebrating Eulyxe. What it's

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<v Speaker 3>a tradition, Brynn said, any other night, it wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>something sinister. Hell, two days ago, I would have been

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<v Speaker 3>with them. But tonight it can't be good. She led

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<v Speaker 3>the way off the street through a front yard sculpture

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<v Speaker 3>garden of rusted reebar animals Eulyxe and as ghouls I

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<v Speaker 3>recognize now. We took shelter in an ivy covered roofless

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<v Speaker 3>house and peered back out at the street through what

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<v Speaker 3>was left of a window and what was left of

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<v Speaker 3>a kitchen. The torches came around the bend. Nine adults

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<v Speaker 3>and three children bore them, each with a homemade animal mask.

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<v Speaker 3>Goats and geese, sparrows and sheep. One of the figures

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<v Speaker 3>stood head and shoulders above the crowd. They marched past

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<v Speaker 3>us in silence. When they turned the next bend in

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<v Speaker 3>the road, we left our shelter and started back down

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<v Speaker 3>the hill. The basement door, I learned, was just off

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<v Speaker 3>the river, near the base of the bridge. We scrambled

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<v Speaker 3>down a steep path, then hopped from rock to rock

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<v Speaker 3>along the edge of the water. The trees were thick

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<v Speaker 3>down here. The gibbus moon cast enough light that we

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<v Speaker 3>could make our way without turning on our headlamps. A

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<v Speaker 3>breeze brought the earthy smell of the forest, and the

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<v Speaker 3>river was a white noise that drowned out all other

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<v Speaker 3>ambient sound. What's in it for you, Berne asked, as

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<v Speaker 3>she clambered over a fallen tree. Why aren't you skipping town?

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<v Speaker 3>For some of the last months of Clay's life, he'd

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<v Speaker 3>walked this path every morning and night. You know there's

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<v Speaker 3>a part of me that hates this place, I asked.

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<v Speaker 3>It was rhetorical, of course, and brendan answer, I'm too

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<v Speaker 3>stubborn to give up traveling. Clay wasn't that same stubbornness

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<v Speaker 3>is going to carry me through I came here to

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<v Speaker 3>find out what happened to him. I'm going to I

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<v Speaker 3>clambered over a fallen log, the bar digging into my hands.

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<v Speaker 3>And also, this is clearly the most important reason. Could

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<v Speaker 3>you imagine just leaving now, never learning what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 3>The fear of missing out would rip my heart out

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<v Speaker 3>of my chest as surely as that deer. Brynn laughed.

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<v Speaker 3>I like when she laughed. We continued on along the water,

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<v Speaker 3>and I heard the dry heave of gold animals. I

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<v Speaker 3>never would have expected that would be a sound I'd

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<v Speaker 3>come to recognize. We crouched low, peered into the woods.

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<v Speaker 3>We're almost there, Brynn said. She pointed. The base of

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<v Speaker 3>the gas station went all the way down to the water,

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<v Speaker 3>and a chain link fence stood between us and the

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<v Speaker 3>door with a simple unlocked gate. When I focused, I

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<v Speaker 3>could just make out a dozen silhouettes between us and

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<v Speaker 3>where we wanted to go. Goats and geese, squirrels and

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<v Speaker 3>sheep in all respects, but for their lack of organs

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<v Speaker 3>and ribs. They acted like every barnyard animal I'd ever met,

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<v Speaker 3>annoying and fully aware of the sorrow and emptiness of

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<v Speaker 3>their captive lives. They're awake, I said, Should we go

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<v Speaker 3>around in through the front. Bryn shook her head. The

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<v Speaker 3>trap door to the basement is welded shut. Should we,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know herd them somewhere, get them away from

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<v Speaker 3>the door. Bryn, still crouching, flicked open her extendable baton.

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<v Speaker 3>I sighed, then extended mine. The weight felt good in

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<v Speaker 3>my hand. Most days, a baton made me think I

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<v Speaker 3>could take on the world. That night, though I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>so sure it was going to be enough. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>fight a single living goat by choice, let alone an

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<v Speaker 3>undead one with all its friends. Brynn stood back up

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<v Speaker 3>straight and walked right toward our destination. Always afraid, never

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<v Speaker 3>a coward, I mumbled to myself. My blood started racing.

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<v Speaker 3>I stood up, tightened all the straps of my pack,

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<v Speaker 3>and followed. Animal eyes turned toward us with mute curiosity,

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<v Speaker 3>which turned to malice as we had to rush past them.

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<v Speaker 3>A silent mess of geese got underfoot and lunged for

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<v Speaker 3>my hands. I started swinging. It was an animal abuse.

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<v Speaker 3>They were dead already. Some of the ones I hit

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get up again. Brynn was almost to the gate.

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<v Speaker 3>When the goat ran at me, someone or something had

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<v Speaker 3>sheared off the beast's horns, presumably before Eulixie had stolen

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<v Speaker 3>the creature's rib cage. Not an easy life, or on

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<v Speaker 3>life or whatever. I pulled back and swung from the

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<v Speaker 3>hip like a one handed batter and hit the goat

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<v Speaker 3>in the skull with all my strength. I must have

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<v Speaker 3>grown up watching too many zombie movies. Hitting that thing's

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<v Speaker 3>skull was like hitting a bowlder, and I probably hurt

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<v Speaker 3>my hand more than I hurt the goat. Still, the

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<v Speaker 3>blow seemed to have stopped its charge. It was still

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<v Speaker 3>in my way. It tried to bleat, but it had

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<v Speaker 3>no lungs. I heard a low rumble, like distant thunder,

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<v Speaker 3>and turned in time to see a demon bull crash

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<v Speaker 3>out of the trees and barrel toward us. Oh fuck,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, or Brynn said. I started thrashing at the

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<v Speaker 3>dumb goat in front of me with the baton. It

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<v Speaker 3>bit my hand and I dropped the weapon. I dove

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<v Speaker 3>over it, but my backpack destroyed my attempts at a

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<v Speaker 3>smooth acrobatic roll, and I landed on my back. Brynn

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<v Speaker 3>helped me to my feet and we were through the gate.

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<v Speaker 3>I swung it shut, dropped the latch, and was knocked

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<v Speaker 3>off my feet as the bowl slammed into the chain length.

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<v Speaker 3>The fence post bent to a forty five degree angle,

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<v Speaker 3>and the beast backed up to charge again. I got

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<v Speaker 3>up again, clutching my bleeding right hand, and we stumbled

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<v Speaker 3>in through the open door to the basement and slammed

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<v Speaker 3>it behind us. As though that pitch dark room offered

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<v Speaker 3>us safety, we switched on our head lamps. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a single, large room, like any basement in any shitty

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<v Speaker 3>house anywhere. A water heater and a furnace and pipe

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<v Speaker 3>stood out from one wall, and a box spring and

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<v Speaker 3>mattress lay on the floor in the near corner, with

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<v Speaker 3>simple gray sheets and a pile of ratty old comforters.

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<v Speaker 3>A milk crate served as a bedside table, and a

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<v Speaker 3>short stack of books stood atop against the far wall.

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<v Speaker 3>A blood red deer with three antlers lay sleeping upon

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<v Speaker 3>a knee high pile of rib bones. As soon as

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<v Speaker 3>my head lamp flashed across Eulyxe, I put my hand

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<v Speaker 3>over my light, but the demon didn't stir. With the

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<v Speaker 3>sun below the horizon, he likely couldn't move at all.

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<v Speaker 3>The bile rose in my throat. The bones Eulyxes slept

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<v Speaker 3>on weren't the pale white of long dead, sun bleached corpses.

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<v Speaker 3>They were gray and yellow and gristly. Some of them,

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<v Speaker 3>I surmised were human. Let me see your hand, Brynn said,

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<v Speaker 3>you're hurt. It's fine, I said. I hadn't really looked

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<v Speaker 3>to tell if that was true, but I didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to look, not until I was somewhere safe. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>bleeding horrendously. I wrapped my wounded hand with the bandana

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<v Speaker 3>from my back pocket, tight enough to keep pressure on

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<v Speaker 3>the bite. Don't want you turning into a wear goat

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<v Speaker 3>or something. Though Brynn laughed, it was a nervous laugh,

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<v Speaker 3>probably because, well, I don't think either of us knew

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<v Speaker 3>for certain if that was an actual possibility. It'll be fine,

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<v Speaker 3>I whispered. I went to the books beside Clay's bed

0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.280
<v Speaker 3>while Brent stood watch. There was a copy of twenty

0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.360
<v Speaker 3>thousand Leagues Under the Sea, the copy I had given him.

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<v Speaker 3>I opened the front page, saw my own handwriting, Clay,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe you'll get as much out of this as I

0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:24.040
<v Speaker 3>did under it. He'd written back, Danielle, I think at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of it, you're more nemo than I. It

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<v Speaker 3>took all my presence of mind not to drop the book.

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<v Speaker 3>Had he known I would come hunting after his ghost

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<v Speaker 3>and end up looking through his bedside reading. More likely,

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<v Speaker 3>he'd just written a note absent mindedly for Fox's sake.

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<v Speaker 3>What did I know about the world anymore? The next

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<v Speaker 3>book was history, something about the Kronstat Rebellion, obscure Russian history,

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<v Speaker 3>when the Bolsheviks decided to kill all the anarchist sailors.

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<v Speaker 3>I flipped through it. No notes to me, but here

0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:57.480
<v Speaker 3>and there he'd highlighted passages. Last a spiral bound notebook,

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<v Speaker 3>the first couple pages were filled with some college kid's

0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.520
<v Speaker 3>English literature notes. A decade back, Clay had shown me

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<v Speaker 3>that trick Punk's Christmas, he called it. When the school

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<v Speaker 3>year ended, college kids threw out everything from unopened food

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<v Speaker 3>to art supplies, to furniture, to computers to well, obviously notebooks.

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<v Speaker 3>Head on over to the dumpsters, pick up anything you need.

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<v Speaker 3>After the wrote transcription of some boring lecture in a

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<v Speaker 3>stranger's hand. However, I saw a page with Clay's handwriting

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<v Speaker 3>on it. I threw the books into my backpack. From

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<v Speaker 3>outside the open door, I heard birds, dawn, shit. Brenn

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<v Speaker 3>and I had the same thought at the same time,

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<v Speaker 3>and we grabbed one another and bolted across the room

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<v Speaker 3>to crouch behind the furnace. A row of small windows

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<v Speaker 3>lined the top of one wall. The first hint of

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<v Speaker 3>color and light came through them a moment later, and

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<v Speaker 3>Eulix stirred. The sheer, unrid reality of the situation took

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<v Speaker 3>off the worst of my anxiety. Brynn held my good

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<v Speaker 3>hands so tight it hurt almost as bad as the

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<v Speaker 3>one the goat had bitten. And we watched you, Lixey

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<v Speaker 3>rise to face the day for all the world. He

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<v Speaker 3>moved like a regular deer, graceful but nervous. If he

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<v Speaker 3>knew we were there, he made no sign. Instead, he

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<v Speaker 3>headed for the door and was gone. We crouched in

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<v Speaker 3>the encroaching dawn, our hands locked together, are breathing as

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<v Speaker 3>quiet as we could make it, for full two minutes

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<v Speaker 3>before we left to find Rebecca's tree house. A squatter's

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<v Speaker 3>life is ruled by darkness, breaking into buildings, digging through trash,

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<v Speaker 3>even just sneaking up onto rooftops to see the city.

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<v Speaker 3>All those things are easier and safer to do after dark.

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<v Speaker 3>But the sun was up as we marched along and

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<v Speaker 3>then away from the river the day before summer solstice.

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<v Speaker 3>It was going to be up for a long while. Still,

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<v Speaker 3>I trained my eyes on the woods for movement. Walking

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<v Speaker 3>in the forest, you don't see most of the animals

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<v Speaker 3>only once I saw something. Something in the branches above us.

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<v Speaker 3>Could have been a squirrel or a bird. Hell could

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<v Speaker 3>have been a mountain lion. Better a living mountain lion

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<v Speaker 3>than an undead squirrel. After twenty minutes along the river bank,

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<v Speaker 3>it was an hour's high cup to a ravine. There

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<v Speaker 3>was another way to Rebecca's place, a path that ran

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<v Speaker 3>up over the top of the hill, but it would

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<v Speaker 3>have taken us through town. We needed to get Clay's

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<v Speaker 3>notes to Rebecca so she could figure out how to

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<v Speaker 3>perform the ritual, and we couldn't risk running into Ulixe

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<v Speaker 3>or Eric. Brynn led us unerringly with a compass and

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<v Speaker 3>a laminated US Geographical Survey map. Having a destination Rebecca's

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<v Speaker 3>treehouse and an idea of how to get there where

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<v Speaker 3>about all I had to prop up my waning courage

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<v Speaker 3>While we walked, I let myself wonder more about Eric

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<v Speaker 3>and Kestrel. They said doomsday and the rest they were

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:46.600
<v Speaker 3>going to summon something worse. I'd play it by ear,

0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.679
<v Speaker 3>I decided, listen to Rebecca, decide how much to trust her.

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<v Speaker 3>We stopped only once to pick at the previous night's

0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:57.480
<v Speaker 3>dinner from tupperware. Brynn had a few bottles of cold

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<v Speaker 3>coffee and caffeine did its best to replace the adrenaline

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<v Speaker 3>that have been slowly draining out of my system since

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<v Speaker 3>we left the basement. I love coffee, she said, smiling.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's been all to say. I know I'm addicted.

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<v Speaker 3>I know everyone loves it. I don't care. There's only

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<v Speaker 3>a small handful of things in this world that make

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<v Speaker 3>me happy, and coffee is one of them. What's another,

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<v Speaker 3>I asked. We're both slightly delirious. She thought about it

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<v Speaker 3>for a while. Shit like feeling useful or not paying rent, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll stick with weaknesses romance novels. I fucking love

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<v Speaker 3>trashy romance. The straighter the better, the worse the politics,

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<v Speaker 3>the better. I'll just eat that shit up. That's awesome,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, your turn, she said. We capped, the coffee

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<v Speaker 3>started back up the ravine. I want to say horizons

0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:48.680
<v Speaker 3>because as often as not, the chance to get over

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<v Speaker 3>the closest one is what gets me up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>But you told me about romance novels, so I'll do

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<v Speaker 3>you one better. Fan fiction, erotic, queer fan fiction. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even care what fandom. Give me someone getting on

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<v Speaker 3>with a werewolf, of a seahorse, unicorn, whatever, and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be happy. Really, I read it on my phone. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know I'm gonna have to make fun of you

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<v Speaker 3>about this, right, you won't be the first one. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna make fun of you about it, but I

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<v Speaker 3>still want you to read it aloud to me as

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<v Speaker 3>soon as we get back to phone signal. I promised. God.

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<v Speaker 3>My wiring was all kinds of fucked up for the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the hike, going crazy from lack of sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>I was happier than I'd been in months. The treehouse

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<v Speaker 3>was a beautiful little witch shack, held a full thirty

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<v Speaker 3>feet aloft between four narrow pines. Its siding had been

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<v Speaker 3>blowtorched to black during the finishing process, and there was

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<v Speaker 3>one porch on the side of the house and another

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<v Speaker 3>on the roof. The windows were mixed matched and erratically placed.

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<v Speaker 3>A rope and wood ladder dangled down, inviting us up.

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<v Speaker 3>A black stovepipe thrust out and up from the side

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<v Speaker 3>and on the east slope of the hill like that,

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<v Speaker 3>I knew it got a full view of Dawn in

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<v Speaker 3>love Rebecca. Bryn had her tattooed hands up of her

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<v Speaker 3>mouth to project her voice. Rebecca, maybe she's in town,

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<v Speaker 3>I asked, after a few fruitless minutes, you heard vulture.

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<v Speaker 3>She's not going anywhere for a while. There's a wardstone

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 3>there keeps you Lisie out. Brynn pointed to a single

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<v Speaker 3>white stone about the size of my head. A circle

0:23:21.400 --> 0:23:24.680
<v Speaker 3>suddenly etched onto its face. Not sure why the ladder

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<v Speaker 3>is down. Though she tested the ladder, it held her weight,

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<v Speaker 3>so she made her way up. I followed. The house

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<v Speaker 3>was even more gorgeous up close. Rebecca had done an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing job, down to details like filigree carved into the

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<v Speaker 3>doorframe and an oreboris painted on the door. Brynn knocked.

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<v Speaker 3>No answer, Rebecca, she shouted, I don't think she's here,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, pointing to a padlock that held the door shut. Shit,

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<v Speaker 3>Brynn said, stomping her foot on the porch and shaking

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<v Speaker 3>the trees we were attached to. She went to the

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<v Speaker 3>nearest window, peered in. She fell trembling. If it weren't

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<v Speaker 3>for the railing, she might have fallen off the porch.

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<v Speaker 3>I looked. The sun lit the floor in big squares

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:10.639
<v Speaker 3>where it came through the windows, and in one of

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 3>those squares was a dead woman. She lay on her side,

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:17.600
<v Speaker 3>with her eyes open, her mouth open. She was so small,

0:24:17.680 --> 0:24:20.320
<v Speaker 3>almost childlike, but I could see in the lines in

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:22.399
<v Speaker 3>her face she had lived at least a decade longer

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:25.560
<v Speaker 3>than me. I knew the hard way that when faced

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 3>of the corpse, it's up to the person who didn't

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 3>know the now dead person to handle things. Clay had

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:33.440
<v Speaker 3>done it for me once when we found agnes O Deed.

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:36.600
<v Speaker 3>I'd done it for him a year later, when it

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 3>had been Sammy with his guts on the wrong side

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 3>of a knife wound. Can you pick the lock, Britt asked.

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 3>Clay always said you were good at shit like that, probably,

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 3>I said. I pulled a screwdriver from my pack, a

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 3>large Philip's head with a rubber grip. I took my

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.959
<v Speaker 3>shirt off, wrapped it around my good hand and jabbed

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:55.840
<v Speaker 3>at the corner of the window to break the glass.

0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 3>It broke with that strange thud that surprises me every time,

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 3>nothing like the sound you hear in movies. You've got

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.199
<v Speaker 3>to break glass against glass to get a noise like that.

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 3>I reached through and unlocked the window, opened it stepped inside.

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Brynn came in directly after. Some people respond to crisis

0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 3>by shutting down or running. Some people respond to crisis emotionally,

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 3>which is probably the healthiest way. Myself, I handled crisis

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 3>by shoving fear and sadness and worry down as far

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.240
<v Speaker 3>into my gut as I could. It's never nice, and

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.959
<v Speaker 3>all that nasty shit comes up as trauma later, but

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 3>the practice has kept me alive. Brynn, she was made

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.880
<v Speaker 3>of the same stuff as me, maybe sterner. She went

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:41.360
<v Speaker 3>directly to the corpse started searching her friend for wounds.

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 3>They weren't hard to find. Four bullet holes marked her

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 3>sleeveless white blouse. All were on her torso, two on

0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:52.480
<v Speaker 3>her chest, one near her hip, one in between. You

0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 3>know anything about forensics, Brynn asked, No, I said, neither

0:25:56.920 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 3>do I, But I know enough about shooting to tell

0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 3>you that that's a pretty fuck off bad shot grouping.

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.879
<v Speaker 3>While Brin saw to Rebecca, I scoured the rest of

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.840
<v Speaker 3>the one room shack. A mattress lay on the floor

0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:11.199
<v Speaker 3>in the corner. A bookshelf was filled to overfull with

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:15.119
<v Speaker 3>dried and tinctured herbs and jars and dropper bottles, plantain

0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 3>and ragwart and fever few, plus flowers and leaves I

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 3>couldn't recognize, hung drying from line stretched across the space.

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 3>The wood burning stove was cold since it was June,

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 3>that didn't tell me much. An antique desk, the only

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.439
<v Speaker 3>piece of furniture in the room not handbuilt from scrap lumber,

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 3>took up most of one wall. Under a bank of windows.

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:40.040
<v Speaker 3>A ladder led to a trapdoor in the ceiling. Something

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.399
<v Speaker 3>like a dozen well carved wooden figurines of deer littered

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:47.119
<v Speaker 3>the desktop, each no larger than my palm. They were

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 3>stained blood red. A piece of cardboard dripped from a

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 3>case of beer served as a cutting mat and a

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 3>staining mat. It looked like with silhouettes of dark stain

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:59.159
<v Speaker 3>and gathered chips of wood. The carving tools themselves were

0:26:59.200 --> 0:27:02.920
<v Speaker 3>scattered all over the floor. Rebecca's corpse was close to

0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 3>where I stood. My mind wouldn't forget that fact for

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 3>long enough to concentrate on anything else. Bullet holes pierced

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 3>the plywood along the back wall. The bullets went out

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 3>the back, I said, running my finger along the splintered wood.

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 3>Who the fuck, Brynn said Eric. I said, we don't

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 3>know that. Yeah, we do, I said, who the hell else? Kestrel, maybe,

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 3>but I bet it was Eric. Brynn closed Rebecca's eyes,

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.879
<v Speaker 3>then kept searching the body. She has a knife in

0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:38.160
<v Speaker 3>her hand, carving knife. Tears welled up, catching me by surprise.

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 3>Here was a woman cut down by a man afraid

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 3>of her power. She'd fought back knife versus gun. I

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 3>never got to meet her, I said, I've got the

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 3>feeling I really missed out. Yeah, Brynn said, I want

0:27:53.960 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 3>to kill him. I said, it was true, a simple thing,

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 3>a clear epiphany. I wanted to kill Eric for killing

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 3>this woman, even though it could have been Kestrel. I

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 3>wanted to kill Eric for killing her. Eulxe might do

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 3>it for you, Brynn said, imagine his thinking. I said,

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 3>he's got to have thought this through. Killing Rebecca means

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 3>saving Eulyxe means he's doomed himself to being killed by Eulixe.

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Imagine being so sure of the righteousness of your cause

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 3>you're willing to sacrifice your own ideals to achieve them.

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Every politician ever, Brynn said, every authoritarian communist. He killed

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 3>her in cold blood. I said, I couldn't think straight

0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:36.919
<v Speaker 3>killed her. She came up and wrapped her arms around me,

0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 3>and I buried my head into her chest, and my

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:43.320
<v Speaker 3>anger turned into something like sorrow. I cried, standing over

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 3>the body of her friend. She supported me. We've got

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 3>to get back, I said, pulling away. I stepped out

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 3>of the treehouse. The air outside was fresh, cleansing. Bryn

0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 3>joined me, and I went to the latter and looked down.

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Eulyxe stood silent, staring up at us from the ground.

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.360
<v Speaker 3>There was a hammock on the porch. On the roof,

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 3>thick cotton rope held our weight, and our feet dangled

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 3>over the edge, like we were teenagers on a date

0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 3>instead of squatters hiding from a demon in a corpse.

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.719
<v Speaker 3>I can't stay there all day, I said. I had

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 3>a friend in town about six months back. You know

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 3>how you think you know somebody and then they just

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 3>do something awful, beat their partner, abuse someone something like that. Yeah,

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I said, so this guy I lived with, my friend Greg.

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 3>I liked him all right. He was friendly, hard working,

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 3>really polite. His partner Sam, no one liked her. She

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 3>used to throw shit fits at general assembly, horde booze

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 3>from the everything for everyone, that kind of thing. She

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 3>worked hard too, I guess, but I don't know. She

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.280
<v Speaker 3>just rubbed everyone the wrong way. She and Greg had

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.479
<v Speaker 3>been together maybe three months, when one night they were

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 3>drunk and he raped her. I don't know if he

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 3>thought he raped her, but that never really matters. She

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 3>didn't want to have sex with him that night, and

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 3>he did it anyway. Yeah, it doesn't really matter what

0:29:55.800 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 3>he thinks about that. The next day, the very next day,

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 3>before she's even told anyone, Greg walks outside her house

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 3>and there's Ulxe just standing on the porch, just looking

0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 3>at him. He goes to the fuck back inside, and

0:30:08.520 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 3>he waits elixes out there, not moving until sunset. The

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 3>rest of us come and go, But that fucking deer

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 3>was just waiting for and watching him. What happened as

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:21.080
<v Speaker 3>soon as night fell, Sam drove him up to Minneapolis,

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:22.840
<v Speaker 3>kicked him out of the car and said if she

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 3>ever saw him again, she'd kill him herself. I whistled.

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Moral of the story is that Ulixie most definitely can

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 3>stay there all day. We're not predators, I said, no.

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 3>But we're hunting for a way to dismiss it, aren't we.

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 3>I can see why you all kind of like having

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 3>it around, though, with a story like that, I'm not

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 3>going to tell you it hasn't been nice, Bryn said,

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 3>up until the point when it wasn't. I'm always so

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 3>quick to resort to violence, I said, I'm not ashamed

0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 3>of that. I think it's necessary sometimes, but damn, it'd

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 3>be nice to be able to just quit violence cold Turkey,

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 3>let a spell take care of it for me. There's

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 3>no magic bullet, though, Brynn said, never was, never will be.

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 3>I agreed. It should have been a beautiful day. It

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 3>was warm enough that the breeze felt good, but not

0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 3>hot enough to be uncomfortable. Fuck, I said, how are

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 3>we going to dismiss it now? I guess that's up

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 3>to doomsday.

0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:14.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 3>We were halfway up to the canopy and I could

0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 3>see the forest, in the river, in the prairie in

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 3>the distance. More herbs hung drying all around us, and

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 3>their scents combined to be just short of overwhelming. More important,

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Brynn sat next to me, all worked up to sweating

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 3>from everything, and her smell was overwhelming. She had her

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 3>arm around the small of my waist, mine was around

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 3>her back. Let me see your hand, she said, No,

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:43.120
<v Speaker 3>it's fine. The bandana was still wrapped tight around the wound.

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 3>My palm's still hurt, but I wasn't ready to look

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 3>at it. There was an awful lot of shit going

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.080
<v Speaker 3>on just then that I wasn't ready to let myself

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 3>think too much about God. I wish you'd showed up

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 3>like a month ago or something. Brynn said, what do

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 3>you mean. It'd be nice to get to know you proper,

0:31:59.160 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Bryn said, instead of like this. Oh you don't like

0:32:01.760 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 3>demon hunting with me? I asked. Brynn giggled. I looked

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 3>at her, and she must have gotten self conscious about giggling,

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 3>because she started giggling harder, covering her face and laughing.

0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 3>She fell onto her side in the hammock, and I

0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 3>had my arms around her and I started laughing too.

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 3>What a fucking day, I said, What a fucking day?

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:24.479
<v Speaker 3>She agreed. We both fell asleep like that, curled up

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:29.240
<v Speaker 3>on the hammock. I dreamt about jail. A few hours later,

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 3>I broke out of dream jail by waking up, but

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 3>I was still trapped. I peered over the edge of

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 3>the treehouse roof and Elixie peered right back at me.

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 3>The bowl was beside him. That woke me up all

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.040
<v Speaker 3>the way, and I looked to the trees around me.

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 3>Squirrels and birds all on dead, sat silent on the branches,

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 3>not ten feet from my head, all staring at me

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 3>with their glossy eyes like as not. They'd been there

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 3>for hours already, and they didn't seem to want to attack,

0:32:56.160 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 3>just watch, just bore into me. Bryn was snoring, her

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:05.640
<v Speaker 3>head crane back. I trusted her. I realized everything around

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.239
<v Speaker 3>me was terrifying and none of it made sense, but

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Brinn seemed to accept it, and I was learning to

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 3>accept her. Freedom ran on trust. I needed to trust someone.

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 3>I flipped through Clay's notebook, his handwriting only grace. Twelve pages.

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 3>On each he'd written the same single line, The only

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 3>way out is through the last page had another line

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 3>underneath the first. What hand dare sees the fire. He'd

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 3>always been saying shit like that. When you needed advice,

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 3>he was always there saying something needlessly cryptic but reasonably wise.

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 3>I wish he'd listened to his own advice, though, I

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 3>wish he'd kept going. I wish he'd found his way

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 3>through Sitting there then, with the sun dappled through the

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 3>leaves and the needles of the forest, I tried to

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 3>piece out what had happened to him at his funeral.

0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 3>I thought he'd given up because there wasn't any future

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 3>in writing the Rails. But that wasn't it. It couldn't

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 3>be it. That was me seeing more of me and

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 3>him than there really was. Motherfucker had spent fifteen years

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:11.240
<v Speaker 3>looking for the hobo utopia the Big Rock Candy Mountain,

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 3>until he just gave up and made the place. Then

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 3>he defended it with the witchcraft he knew. Then he'd

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 3>run away. Then he'd done Eulix's work all on his

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 3>own and ended his own life. Why. Maybe because he'd

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 3>been exiled from Paradise by a beast of his own making.

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.240
<v Speaker 3>Maybe because he decided freedom was home and he couldn't

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 3>come back. That's what having a home will do to you.

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Maybe I dropped the notebook onto the hammock. Brynn woke up.

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 3>The only way out is through, I said, pardon, I

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 3>should brin the pages. We did all this and we've

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 3>got nothing, nothing from Clay, nothing from Rebecca, and we

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 3>can't get home to warn anyone there's a killer on

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 3>the loose. That's funny, Brynn said, that's not the quote. Quote.

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 3>He says the best way out is always through. And

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 3>I agree to that, or in so far is that

0:35:02.680 --> 0:35:05.879
<v Speaker 3>I can see no way out but through. It's from

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 3>a Robert Frost poem, A Servant to Servants. It's a

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.480
<v Speaker 3>true statement, I guess, I said, But doesn't do us

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 3>any good. He got the other one closer. What the

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 3>hand dare? Seize the fire? The Tiger by William Blake?

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.319
<v Speaker 3>That line mean anything to you, I asked, Hell, it

0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 3>means even less to me than the Robert Frost. Clay

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 3>moved into the gas station because he was studying Eulixie right,

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.600
<v Speaker 3>trying to learn how to dismiss it. Yeah, and the

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:34.360
<v Speaker 3>only thing he wrote down, I said, And all that

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 3>time was some misquoted poetry. I guess here, come downstairs

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 3>with me. I went to the hatch in the roof,

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.280
<v Speaker 3>opened it and climbed down the ladder. The house stank

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 3>of death, leaving us gagging, and I opened all the

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 3>windows that could be opened. We tried our best not

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 3>to stare at the dead woman on the floor for

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.240
<v Speaker 3>a few hours more. We just had to keep ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>from thinking too hard about her. These, I said, pointing

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<v Speaker 3>to the twelve deer figurines on the desk, What do

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<v Speaker 3>you make of these? She was obsessed, Brent said, half

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<v Speaker 3>the town is obsessed. Though she held up her hand

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<v Speaker 3>showing me her eulixe tattoo. I picked up one of

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<v Speaker 3>the red figures and on a whim, lined it up

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<v Speaker 3>to the dark outlines of stain on the cardboard that

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<v Speaker 3>marked word had been painted. I did the same with

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<v Speaker 3>the rest, a sort of simple jigsaw puzzle. They formed

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<v Speaker 3>a circle, each facing clockwise. The figure at one o'clock

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<v Speaker 3>was on its side, and the figure at twelve stood

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<v Speaker 3>over it, its mouth down by the other's ribs, like

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<v Speaker 3>it was killing it, like it was eating its heart.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it means, I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think it's a coincidence, though Clay writing twelve pages and

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<v Speaker 3>Rebecca carving twelve figurines. Now, I don't suppose it is, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, twelve pages, twelve figures, twelve months, Solstice to solstice.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just telling us that her only chance is tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 3>which we already knew, which we already knew. She agreed, hooray.

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<v Speaker 3>But what are they gonna do?

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Evans, Well, I don't know, Margaret, but you, being

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<v Speaker 2>my friend who always has a cryptic response to everything

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<v Speaker 2>anyone says, I'm excited to find out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. When I first started writing these two characters is

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<v Speaker 3>a very long time ago. I've been writing Clay and

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Kine for like, just since I was like twenty,

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<v Speaker 3>and Clay was always the guy standing there with cryptic

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<v Speaker 3>things to say. I think I'm just trying to grow

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<v Speaker 3>into him. What are you say?

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<v Speaker 2>I do? Like that. One of the through lines here

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<v Speaker 2>is you've got there's both like a lot of focus

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<v Speaker 2>on how careful these punk kids are with their guns

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<v Speaker 2>and how not careful they are with magic, which yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoy. Like one of them is the very like

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<v Speaker 2>because the harm and the danger is incredibly clear with

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<v Speaker 2>a gun, Right, You've got like an end and the

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 2>thing comes out of the end and you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be real careful that nothing is in front of that

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 2>end that you don't want things through, whereas the magic

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<v Speaker 2>is much much less unclear and how it functions in

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<v Speaker 2>some ways, and so it leads to this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, maybe recklessness on behalf of the protagonists.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that is interesting. I no, that makes sense to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a kind of like, you know, like maybe

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<v Speaker 3>by the time there's ten of these books, they'll be

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<v Speaker 3>like going around and teaching magic safety classes. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's also it's interesting just because there's also a

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<v Speaker 2>very I mean a very punk attitude towards it. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I think about the ways in which, like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the older anarchist punks that I know treat the police,

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of like the great care and sort of

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<v Speaker 2>like wariness with which they treat the police, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the recklessness with which they treat something like a train totally.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, Oh, better be careful there's police around.

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<v Speaker 2>Be real, like I'm gonna hop on this moving beast.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and if you get scared, just drink some whiskey

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<v Speaker 3>and that'll help you jump on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'll get you straight.

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<v Speaker 1>God.

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<v Speaker 3>I like definitely I always had two rules about train hopping.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't hop on while it's moving, and you always

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<v Speaker 3>hop on sober until the one day when the only

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<v Speaker 3>way to get out of Milwaukee was to hop on

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<v Speaker 3>a moving train. And so I was scared. So we

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<v Speaker 3>all drank whiskey in order to get unscared. Don't do

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<v Speaker 3>what I did.

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<v Speaker 1>It was bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I almost saw my friend get sucked under the wheels,

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<v Speaker 3>and someone, the kid who was showing us the hopout spot,

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<v Speaker 3>like pulled her back away from the fucking wheels.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I did an interview that has always stuck with me

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 2>when I was at Cracked for an article with this

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<v Speaker 2>young woman in a Boulder who was doing train hopping

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<v Speaker 2>on the college campus and went just timed it badly

0:39:56.920 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 2>and lost both their legs. Yeah. The older punk she

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<v Speaker 2>was jumping with was a former Army medic and tourniqueted

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<v Speaker 2>her legs like on the spot. Is the only reason

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't die. Yeah, and then got blamed. He like

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<v Speaker 2>got blamed because he was the older one, yeah, like

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 2>inciting her to jump, and she was like, well, no,

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I was. Everyone did this, all of the dumb kids.

0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 2>We all did train hopping. He's he didn't get me killed.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the only reason I didn't die. Yeah, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're listening, don't jump on moving trains, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't jump on moving trains, do it sober. But also

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<v Speaker 2>do be careful with your guns too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, totally and magic probably if that's real. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I was going to advise people to be real

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<v Speaker 2>reckless with that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, yeah, you know, yeah, what could go wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well all right, Margaret, Well that's uh, that's this

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<v Speaker 2>episode in the in the can.

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