1 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: What is going on? Boy? Middle Coop three and Out podcast. 2 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: Back at it again, taking a little break from watching, uh, 3 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: March Madness. I'm not gonna lie. Having a pretty good 4 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: day gambling. As I'm recording this. I still need one 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: more game. St. Mary's hasn't quite tipped off yet, but 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: still some stuff going on football. I have some thoughts why, 7 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: And I talked about sometimes big picture stuff with with 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: the sport, and that's something that fascinates me, uh, just 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: the health of American sports, whether it's football, basketball, baseball, 10 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: even golf. I'm a big golf guy with Tiger Woods 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: and the power of getting attention. Have some thoughts why 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: March Madness actually has a lot of parallels to the NFL. 13 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Levian made some comments that I thought were just pretty 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: moronic about the Steelers, about Ben and not necessarily about Ben, 15 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: but more about the Steelers. And and then just a 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: lot of these pro days are going on if you 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: watch NFL Network. They've been at Ohio State, they've been 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, they've been at Alabama, And just wanted to 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: dive in a little bit about my experience and if 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: they're important or if they're not. But the one thing 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: with march madness. That is so powerful. Now, if you 22 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: like to bet, it's incredible. But just I think for 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: sports the casual person they say a lot of it 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: has to do with the brackett. I think a lot 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: of it has to do just with the drama. Uh. 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: And Colin uses this word a lot and forever on 27 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: on my radio shows. When I did a local radio show, 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: we talked a lot about baseball because the Giants were 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: big and we had the A's and they were good. 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: But baseball talk doesn't really drive media, any sports media anymore, 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: because there isn't any urgency to it. And I think 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: a lot of the same thing has happened in basketball, 33 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: like the regular season now means no thing. It's never 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: meant less. Guys don't even play in games. There's just 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: no urgency. And as someone that used to gamble on 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: the regular season, I lost a lot of money. I 37 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: just stopped doing it because it was just impossible to predict. Well, 38 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: the powerful thing about march madness is and I don't 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: know if you guys listen to this guy named Gary 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: vander Chuck. He's like a motivational speaker. Not all of 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: this stuff you can disagree with some of the stuff, 42 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: but one out like overriding message that he always has 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: and he's pretty. He's kind of like an entrepreneur meets 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: kind of a tech guy, and he was big on 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter and all these companies before they got big, 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: and his big thing is the hardest thing to do 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen is to get someone's attention. That's 48 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: why Twitter and Instagram and the social media platforms are 49 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: so powerful and so lucrative, Netflix, you name it, because 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: they get they get people's attention. I don't think people 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: realize that a lot of people do not watch a 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: national NBA game on a on a Wednesday night. It's 53 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: like seven people, Like fifteen million people watch Thursday night football. 54 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: I might actually be off on these numbers. Just millions 55 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: upon millions of people watched these games. It's really hard 56 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: to get people's attention. Now. Football is a lot working for. 57 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: One thing that football really has working for is the 58 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: sport is the sport. There's not a lot of inventory 59 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: because you only play once a week. It's the one 60 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: major sport where you practice way more than you play. 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: So when you do play, it's a big deal. Every 62 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: game kind of matters. It's why in the NFL, especially 63 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: the second half of the season, all the Sunday night games, 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: the big national games there, they have huge implications. And 65 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: then the playoff format and college benefits from this too. 66 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: Every game matters. I mean this, it's not a seven 67 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: game series. You know, if you're not super locked into 68 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs, like, you can lose a game. It's 69 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: not that big of a deal, especially on the road, 70 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: like that's normal as long as you have home court 71 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: advantage to take care of home. But in playoff football, 72 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, the Chiefs screwed around and 73 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: they lost the Titans in the first round of the playoffs. 74 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: And obviously gambling plays a big part in it, fantasy football, whatever, 75 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: but just the setup of the sport, just like the 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: setup of this tournament. Just one game, you win, your 77 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: you advance, you lose your out. That's baseball. It's like, oh, 78 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: I went over four, don't no worries. I got six 79 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: more games this week. It's only Monday. In the NBA, 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: I had a bad game. Whatever, I'll take the next 81 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: two off and come back for the next month. It's 82 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: only December. I have six more months of the season. 83 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: We're in football. That's why every game series, every injury matters, 84 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: every snap matters, every game matters. You just can't make 85 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: that up. I love March Madness, but I love anything 86 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: that's important and has a lot of urgency to it, 87 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: Like I love the golf majors. I love the n 88 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: C Double A Tournament. I love the NBA Playoffs. Obviously 89 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: love the NFL and college football because for five straight 90 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: months you're on this roller coaster ride of importance in 91 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: college football. When they kick off that Week one and 92 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: you get some of the those big cross rival not 93 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: not not rival, but like interconference matchups Washington, Auburn, Clemson 94 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: A and m Alabama whoever, that game matters. You know, 95 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: if you lose that game, you're in trouble. Now it's 96 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: been proven you're not necessarily knocked out. But last year 97 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: Notre Dame Michigan, that game mattered a lot, and we 98 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: know that as a consumer. And that's just the one 99 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: thing that the sport of football, for some of its 100 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: faults and CTE and head issues, which they've done a 101 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: really good job of getting ahead of and changing the rules. 102 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: Even as a fan, I don't really love all the rules, 103 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: but you can't dispute or argue that they're good for 104 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: people's brain and health, and they've tried to kind of 105 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: get that out of the game. But the when the 106 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: season kicks off till the Super Bowl ends or the 107 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: college football playoff ends, you're kind of glued. Every game matter. 108 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: I've been glued to my television day with the Incitably Tournament, 109 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: mainly because I have money on some games, but even 110 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: just games, I don't you lose your out and you can't. 111 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: It's the one thing that the other two sports will 112 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: just never have. And in a day and age like 113 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 1: society is never getting slower. Just check out a history book, 114 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: Like as we advance, we only get more impatient. And 115 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm on the impatient scale about as high as you 116 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: can get, and that is not a healthy thing to be. 117 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: But as time goes on, we're never gonna slow back down. 118 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: You just look at the way society has gone from 119 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: the beginning of time. Just you just constantly speed up. 120 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: So the good thing is that everyone's doing so much. 121 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: And the one thing that football will always have is 122 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: on Sunday or on Saturday or how high school games, 123 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: those games, every stinking game matters. Okay, let's dive into 124 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: my main man, Levy on Bell, who's had. As I've 125 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: said over and over and over again, you know, one 126 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: of the worst off seasons we've ever seen from a 127 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: fine or for worst twelve months we've seen from a 128 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: financial standpoint, left fourteen and a half million dollars on 129 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: the table, ended up getting twenty. I think six fully guaranteed. 130 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: But as I've been saying for a long time, he 131 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: could have just taken the fourteen and a half million 132 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: dollars slight risk as welcome to life. Everything's risk reward. 133 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: Like every other free agent, played out the season, more 134 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: than likely not gotten injured, definitely not gotten a career 135 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: ending injury, and more than likely would have signed the 136 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: same contract if not for more because he would have 137 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: had recent tape. But that's not what this is about. 138 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Levian sat down with m mqub's Jenny Ventrous. I might 139 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: be screwing up her name and if I am, I'm sorry, uh, 140 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: and had had some interesting comments and I pulled from 141 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: a couple. Now. I've been talking for a long time 142 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: about Big Bend, and I think his reputation has taken 143 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: a massive hit. Like Levian and Antonio Brown, like I 144 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: don't think there are any winners in this whole thing, 145 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: like Antonio Brown, who actually he might be the biggest 146 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: winner because he got more money. He's really he's just 147 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: kind of happy now. But now we'll see when the 148 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: fall comes and if Derek doesn't play well and he's 149 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: not getting catches, how happy he is. But Levian said 150 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: some things about Big Ben and you know how he 151 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: acts like a coach, and same type thing Antonio Brown 152 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: owner mentality. I don't know if he used those exact words, 153 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: but he used things like Ben would get petty when 154 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: he would get mad at Antonio, and he wouldn't throw 155 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 1: a b the rock. Well, if you do a little 156 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: research of the last six years, this year, if he's 157 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: talking specifically about this year, Antonio got his third most 158 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: targets of his career, had over a hunter catches again 159 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: and in fifteen touchdowns. So these guys might be thinking that. 160 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: And clearly Levian and Antonio have talked about when Ben 161 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: is mad at you, he doesn't throw you the ball, 162 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: and again that works I think for a lot of 163 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: teams with a lot of different players over the years. 164 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: But statistically, like hard data, it's just not true. So 165 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: even if in Antonio didn't even play a game this year. 166 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: They kicked him out of weeks seventeen. So he had 167 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: a hundred four catches and a hundred sixty eight targets 168 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: through fifteen games and fifteen touchdowns, which was also a 169 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: career high. So even if Big Ben is mad adam 170 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: and they clearly think that, they just don't like him whatever, 171 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: And I don't blame them for not liking him. I've 172 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: always thought been kind of a clown, uh classic, you know, 173 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: do as I say, not as I do, got some 174 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: fraudulent characteristics. He heard some things about him in NFL 175 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: circles back in the day. Not the greatest guy. So 176 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: I'm not. I never even disputed that Antonio and Levian 177 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: were necessarily wrong in their hatred. Might be strong, but 178 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: just disdain for Roethlisberger, Like I agreed, but this notion, 179 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: and I clearly they're talking about it. Bro when he's 180 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: piste off at you, he doesn't throw you the ball. 181 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: Can't you just see that conversation happening over text message 182 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: in person, just hanging at the crib with those two guys. 183 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: For sure, Like Ben, so Ben hates me, man, he 184 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: never throws no, no, Levy on he actually throws Antonio 185 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: the ball all the time. That that is the one 186 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: problem I have with this whole Steeler argument is like, 187 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, Ben and Antonio didn't get along well, they 188 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: sure as hell did on the field. It sure worked 189 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: out pretty well for the last six years. Again, google 190 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: the numbers. They speak for themselves. Their borderline historic. And 191 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm not ESPN Stats, Stats and Info here or something 192 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: squab here, but I think I've seen different times on 193 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: Instagram or Twitter they literally are historic. First guy with 194 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: a hundred catches thousand yards, sixth raight years of that, 195 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: or maybe he's tied for the most like Marvin Harrison, 196 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: or I think it was like three or four hundred 197 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: catches thousand yards he passed Jerry Rice, like the Antonio Brown. 198 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: He's not some Odell Eli situation where you know, just 199 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks I couldn't get in the ball. He literally is 200 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: getting a hundred plus catches and competing for double digit 201 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: touchdowns and thirteen fifteen hundred yards every season. So again, 202 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: they may really not like each other, but on the field, 203 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: the production, the success, the winds speak for themselves. So 204 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: I hope that Levian and I'm gonna lump Antonio in 205 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: this too. And this is what Larry Fitzgerald talked about 206 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: at the Sloan Conference, like I don't know, and he 207 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: was talking about Antonio, but you can luve them both 208 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: in know how good these guys had it, Like Antonio, 209 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: you're coming to the Raiders. I don't know, if you've checked. 210 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: They've struggled last fifteen years, you'll Levan, you're going to 211 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: play with the Jets. I don't know, if you check, 212 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: they're not that good. They're not that good. So I 213 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: hope you guys realize you left the Steelers, who the 214 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: majority of my life, every single season double digit wins 215 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: there in the playoffs. Yeah, they don't win the Super 216 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: Bowl as much of the Patriots Welcome to the NFL. 217 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: No one else does either, So I I just think 218 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: these guys are in for somewhat of a route awakening. 219 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: Levyan also made some comments basically talking out the Steelers. 220 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: I might be misquoting him a little in the sense 221 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: that he said wouldn't let him play video games, not 222 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: necessarily wouldn't let him play video games, but got mad 223 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: if you play a lot of video games or an artist, 224 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: they want you to just focus on football, And I 225 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: thought to myself, novel concept. Levian, I pay you a 226 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: ten to twenty million dollars and Levian two years ago 227 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: was making twelve This year was scheduled to make fourteen 228 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: and a half. Your employer wants you to put in 229 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: a lot of time at your job. Again, welcome to life. 230 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: This notion that players like the football just wants me 231 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: to be all football all the time. Like, yeah, they're 232 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: paying you a lot of money to think like that. 233 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: When you retire and you got fifty million in the bank, 234 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: you can do whatever the hell you want. Seven Guess what, 235 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: you won't get that much money. Most of the top 236 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: players in the NFL. Now, there are some outliers like 237 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: who EO. Jones I think has been outspoken about. You know, 238 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't really watch football. I don't think he's that 239 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: in the football outside of football, But when I get 240 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: Julio in the building working out, like he clearly is 241 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: all in. Now. Most quarterbacks, I'd say the best ones 242 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: are football junkies. It's kind of gotta be your life. 243 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: You could argue. Most guys that like get to the 244 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame are typically football junkies. It means a 245 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: lot to them like it is kind of their life. 246 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: Usually at what anyone you know in any sort of 247 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: business that makes a lot of money for the most part, 248 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: usually dictates or dedicates a lot of their free time 249 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: and their professional time toward that you think about it, 250 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: it's all consuming, Like yeah, levi on, sorry, they're not 251 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: helping you to be a balanced human. That's not really 252 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: their job. That's for Michigan State. That's their job. Do 253 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 1: you know what the Steelers job is when they're paying 254 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: you a lot of money or now the Jets produce. 255 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: I care about how good you are as a foot ballplayer. 256 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: That's what matters to them. I don't ever understand why 257 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: these players get shocked by God. They just they didn't 258 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: want me to have a life. Now they can get married, 259 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: have kids, do whatever you want. But yeah, that they 260 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: want you to focus on football seven Now is that realistic? No? 261 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: But is it understandable coming from the team side, Like yeah, yeah, Antonio, 262 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: we're paying in nineteen million. We'd like you to be 263 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: at work on time. Yeah, we we'd like you to 264 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: go all in on studying the playbook. Like again, I 265 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: think sometimes these players, and this is where they're out 266 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: of touch with the common guy, because the common guy 267 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: would go, God, you know, the average American makes like 268 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: fifty grand. If someone said, hey, i'll pay you a 269 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: five grand, can I get a lot of your effort? 270 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: Most people say, yeah, I'll give you a lot of 271 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: my effort. And some of these players in football's heart. 272 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: And the difference is in football you're getting yelled at 273 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: a lot. It's difficult, Like this isn't baseball or basketball, 274 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: where you know, the media just gets on their knee 275 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: ease emblows you every day. And you know in basketball 276 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: they never say anything negative and you can take games off. 277 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: The coaches aren't allowed to yell at you because you 278 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: can get them fired. Like football is difficult. You're getting 279 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: m f daily. You're getting screamed at all the time. 280 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: The games are physical, it's difficult, Like I I get that, 281 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: and I think most fans understand. If you've played football 282 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: at any level, high school to the pros. Most people 283 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: have not played the pros little college, Like if you 284 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: just played high school football, you know it's tough, it's demanding, 285 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: and it's not always fun, like football practice is not fun. 286 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: And then by far, in the media sense, they're the 287 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: hardest on you for football. It's it's a difficult, like 288 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: it's not an easy life. But I don't think it's 289 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: like that out of the out of left field, or 290 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: that out of the blue or that just it means 291 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: understandable that your employer or even quote unquote your partner 292 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: that is compensating you at extremely high levels can want 293 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: you to focus on the sport. Like again again, Levan, 294 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: welcome to the real world. Okay, Pro days in mid 295 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: swing right now. I wouldn't say mid swing. I guess 296 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: probably one more week of them almost over. And I 297 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: get a lot like what do they mean? Well, what's 298 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: the point of all the pro days? And I used 299 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: to think what I was in the NFL like great question. 300 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: Now sometimes they are important when you have an underclassman 301 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: that you did not know was gonna come out ends 302 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,119 Speaker 1: up coming out. Now, even if that guy goes to combine, 303 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: just getting back around the coaches asking them questions. The 304 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: one thing, though, you need to be careful of. And 305 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: I was taught this and I learned this is when 306 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:48,359 Speaker 1: you go into a school in March, the information sometimes 307 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: gets a lot rosier than when you went in during 308 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: the fall. And it was during the season. The heat 309 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: of battle and jobs are on the line and games 310 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: were on the line, and usually get more of a 311 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: sense for the player the person from the coaching staff 312 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: that you do in March. Why, because everyone's happy in March. 313 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: If the kid gets drafted higher, that's coaching staff or 314 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: that individual coach position, coach, coordinator, head coach gets more 315 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: credit now with the nick saban or something like that, 316 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: if you know them, well, that's not necessarily true. But 317 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: for the most part, you have to be very careful 318 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 1: the information you were getting when you go into a 319 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: pro day in March, because a lot of times those 320 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: coaches it's kind of a dead period for them, so 321 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like their job turns into 322 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: their relax or chilling. They're in a good mood and 323 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: the draft isn't far away. They have guys that are 324 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: gonna get picked. It makes them look good, so you 325 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: have to be careful. I also never put stock into 326 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: when a quarterback had a good day. The quarterback is 327 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: playing on air against air. There are no defenders, right, 328 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: It's just it's pretty easy. It should go well. It 329 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: is a situation that is conducive to success if you 330 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: are good. Now, if you're a questionable prospect and it 331 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: doesn't go well, then I read flag. Yet, if you're 332 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: a good prospect and it doesn't go well, and you've 333 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,479 Speaker 1: proven on the field, you're I don't put that much 334 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: stock into it either. Now, just getting a field for 335 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: the guy, the way the guy carries himself, the ways 336 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: around his teammates. I see a lot of people tweeting 337 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: that that's important. I agree to a sense, But if 338 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: you've gone to the school multiple times in the fall, 339 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: you saw them around their teammates again when it matters, 340 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: when they're going to practice, when they're preparing for games. 341 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: This stuff is a little fake right now, because it's 342 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: all manipulated for them to look good. I think you 343 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: gotta be very careful with what you take away from 344 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: these pro days. And we've seen the history of the sport, 345 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: right A lot of misses have been. We used to 346 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 1: call him in the NFL workout warriors, guys that weren't 347 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: great good weren't great players. Then will go to the combine, 348 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: run fast, jump high, look good, you know, have long arms, 349 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: all that bs. So I think the pro days they 350 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: serve a purpose. You get to kind of circle back 351 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: or maybe some information. Maybe some holes on some guys, 352 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: but you gotta take everything you hear at these times 353 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. A lot of times. The 354 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: good thing about a Pro days you know what you're 355 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: looking for. If you're general manager, head coach wants something 356 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: specific on a player, you can go to that position coach, 357 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: you can go to that counselor on campus, you can 358 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: go wherever and get that information. But I I really 359 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: think they're a little overhyped, and again we need something 360 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: to talk about. We talked about and they happened for 361 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: a reason. But whenever I see a guy like Nick 362 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: Bosa standing on his numbers or any player that's standing 363 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: on his numbers that went to the combine did well, 364 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: I think that's what they should do. That is the 365 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: smart move. Now. The one red flag I had of 366 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: the Pro day circuit was Kyler Murray because Kyler Murray 367 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: refused to run well. What does Kyler Murray arguably do 368 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: the best on the football field. But he's an accurate thrower, 369 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: but his truly defining characteristic is just his leak speed. 370 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he run well? As I said last week 371 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: and I told Colin, I think a big reason he 372 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: didn't run is because he's not normally two U five pounds. 373 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: He probably paid just eyeball on him. I'd say one ninety. 374 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: So if you're a team, if you're the Cardinals or 375 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: any other team interested in this guy, you got to 376 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: find out what's his normal playing weight and if he 377 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: did play normally, are you comfortable that he's gonna be 378 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: able to hold up plan like that because usually running 379 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: quarterback Kaepernick and Russell Wilson. I mean those guys were 380 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: two fifty bigger r G three. Look at him. I 381 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: have to look up his weight, but he broke down 382 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: pretty fast. That is a question mark. There's a reason 383 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: we weigh these guys or get their arm measurements, because 384 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: that stuff matters. I always love when Twitter and Twitter 385 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: draft nicks as they go by, go like, I don't 386 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: care how short he is, he can play well. Yeah, 387 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: if you got thirty in arms, it's probably gonna be 388 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: hard to be a pass rusher. Again, like boxing, there's 389 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: a reason they measure reach because I can hit you 390 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: and you can't hit me, and that matters on the lines. 391 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: Now doesn't matter as much at wide receiver whatever, No, 392 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: but it still comes into play. Remember the famous pass 393 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: in the two thousand eleven Super Bowl where Brady over 394 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: threw Welker. Walker's got small arms. If that had been, 395 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, a longer player. Now again, Walker had positive characteristics. 396 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: But all this stuff does come into play eventually. The 397 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: small hands like Jared Goff couldn't hold onto the ball 398 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: when he went to Oregon a couple of years ago 399 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: in his pouring rain. Now luckily he plays in California, 400 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: so he's not playing in the elements. I remember going 401 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: to a pro day and seeing Matt Barkley and it 402 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: was the worst pro day I've ever seen. He was 403 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: such a bad athlete, didn't have a great arm. He's 404 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: actually that, I say it all the time, had a 405 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: much better career than I ever thought he could have. 406 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: I thought he would be out of the league in 407 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: like three years. He's going on like year eight or nine. 408 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,719 Speaker 1: But I remember when I was a g A at 409 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: Fresno State, Ryan Matthews went to the combine. He ran 410 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: a four or four, he was to twenty, just shredded. 411 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: It went really well. And then he went and then 412 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: in the pro day a bunch of GM showed up 413 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 1: and we had a bunch of fringe undrafted free agents, 414 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: and Ryan's like screwing. Ryan didn't need to work out 415 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: at all at all. He had established himself set in stone. 416 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: He was gonna go in the first round. Well, I 417 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: think A. J. Smith was his name. The general manager 418 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: for the Chargers was in attendance and all the guys 419 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: were there and he's like, screwed, I'll run, I'll work out. 420 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: He worked out, ended up going like fifteen or fourteen 421 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: or wherever to the Chargers. He replaced LT. Now. It 422 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: didn't go great for him, but I think a big 423 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: reason that, like everyone's like, this guy's a badass. He 424 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: doesn't carre. He just wants to compete, so you can't 425 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: help yourself. These pro day just impressed people like it 426 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: never hurts to to try to just do stuff. If 427 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: you're good at stuff, like if you run fast, just run. 428 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: If you know if you're gonna crush the drills, just 429 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: do the drills. This isn't you know, it's not making. 430 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: It's not gonna in your career. If Nick Bosa, who 431 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: stood on everything, which I don't blame him, but had 432 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: he done drills, it wouldn't hurt him at all. Everyone 433 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: knows he's a good player, So I think you gotta 434 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: be careful with Pro Days, to be careful what you're 435 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: reading with the Pro Days. Though I like talking about 436 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: Pro Days, I always thought working in it and now 437 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: covering it just a little overhyped. Okay, let's get into 438 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: the Middlecoff bail bag at John Middlecoff is my Instagram 439 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: handle also my Twitter handle, the easiest way to get 440 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: a hold of me online. And you slide up in 441 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: those d m s and I answer your question right here. Hey, John. 442 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: As a longtime reader of football outsiders, one thing has 443 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 1: me spooked on both Murray and Haskins. Each has only 444 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: started for one season. One of the outsiders, Projection Stats, 445 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: has always said the two most important stats for quarterbacks 446 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: are completion percentage and starts. Why isn't this being talked 447 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: about much? As a Bears fan, it seemed painfully obvious 448 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: that Trabinsky, even in year two, was terribly unseasoned. Isn't 449 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: that also likely for these two? Well? I think every 450 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: you have to take every situation no different than scouting 451 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: as its own unique situation. You know, just you can't 452 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: make blanket statements with players and players situations. So you go, 453 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: let's go why did Kyler Murray start only one year? Well, 454 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: he started as a true freshman at Texas A, and 455 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: m Ship kind of got out of control. He was 456 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: split in time with Kyle Allen, another big time recruit, 457 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: was kind of named the starter, but ended up just 458 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: transferring because he didn't want to be around Kevin Sumlin. 459 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: That was a big reason that Kevin someone was kind 460 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: of in the doghouse with a fan base. Then he 461 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: transferred to Oklahoma. Well, when you transfer in college football, 462 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: you have to red shirt, so two years ago he 463 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: read shirted. Last year he backed up Baker Mayfield. Maybe 464 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: may Ifield went number one in the draft, so no 465 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 1: one's gonna say shit about that because the guy that 466 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: was ahead of him was really good. So to me, 467 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: it's not him starting one year when you transfer like that, 468 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: isn't that crazy? Where Mitch was at North Carolina the 469 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: whole time. I forget the guy's name, but he was 470 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: an NFL player and couldn't beat him out. Then when 471 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: you look at Ohio State with Dwayne Haskins, you go, well, 472 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: why didn't he start. Well, he's clearly a better player 473 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: than j. T. Barrett. But as scouts have told me 474 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: that have gone through there, they'll say, the coaching staff 475 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: will tell you he should have been our starter two 476 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: years ago. But Urban looked at J. T. Barrett like 477 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: his long lost son, even though he wasn't that great 478 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: of a player, and just rode with him his senior year. 479 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't gonna Benjamin senior year. But he's 480 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: just not that good. I mean, it's just that's a reality. 481 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins a much better player, and I think that that, 482 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, I think both of them just were in 483 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: those situations. Now Kyler is a little more understandable. But 484 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: I think of Urban says, listen, yeah, he was a 485 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: better player than J. T. Barrett. I just went with 486 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: my uh, emotional ties. I wanted my guy to start. 487 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's that unrealistic. Now, if you are 488 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: like a fourth year guy, you're never able to play. 489 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: That's usually a problem. But I think definitely for Kyler. 490 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: I mean again, he backed up Baker Mayfield, who went 491 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: number one in the draft and his first year eligible 492 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: to start at Oklahoma. It was Baker Mayfield's fifth fifth 493 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: years of senior so I I think you gotta be 494 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: careful with that. Uh. Now, most of these guys don't 495 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: have that problem when you just look at the last 496 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: four or five years, right, you look at Josh Rosen 497 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: full time starter, Sam Donald full time starter, the kid 498 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: it Clemson in a couple of years, full time starter 499 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: to a full time starter, Deshaun Watson full time starter 500 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: for a while, So a lot of these guys. Mahomes 501 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: was a multiple year starter. It's but again, you gotta 502 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: be very careful with the stuff and take every player individually. 503 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: You can't do blanket statements. That's where you it in trouble. 504 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: And I'm with you. Starting is a big deal. Experience 505 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: is a big deal. But I think it's understandable with 506 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: these two players with the notable wide receiver moves this offseason, 507 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: a B for picks, Odell Beckham for picks and paper 508 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: and peppers take for a small fortune. Do you see 509 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver mobility picking up as much as we see 510 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: corners and running backs getting moved around? If I had 511 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: a Gala day or really on my team, I wouldn't 512 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: be too happy with all these elite wide receivers moving 513 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: around as often as they're seeming too. Yeah. Again, kind 514 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: of like we were just talking about with the quarterbacks, 515 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: I just think it's unique. Antonio Brown basically said f 516 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: you to the Steelers, I hate Ben Roethlisberger. Trade me, 517 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: and he threw a football in his face and quit 518 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: on him week seventeen. So that's it was unprecedented, really 519 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: what he did. The dude was having like a historic 520 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: six year run, getting the ball all the time, and 521 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: he still wasn't happy. The Odell Beckham thing was more 522 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: again borderline unprecedented. They signed him to a record contract 523 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: and then they trade him a year later after he 524 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: had a pretty good season, given how shitty Eli Manning was, Like, 525 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: you don't see Julio getting traded. You never saw Larry 526 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: getting traded. You won't see Mike Evans getting traded. The 527 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: Omar thing was weird and that was a big win 528 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: for Dallas, but you you don't see a lot of 529 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: the best. Why DeAndre Hoprikins is not going anywhere, Davante 530 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: Adams is not going anywhere. I also think it's what's 531 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: the player's personality, Like like Davante, high character guy, easy 532 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: to get along with, no problems, right, Doug Baldwin forever, 533 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: everyone likes him, Larry Fitzgerald clearly, Mike Evans so this 534 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: is Julio Jones. Are you a diva or are you 535 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: easy to deal with? And those two guys to me 536 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: are pretty big outliers of Is it safe to say 537 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: that Beckham and Antonio of the last like twenty years 538 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: are in the top five diva's You know, if let's 539 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: put t o one, you could probably in some order 540 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: put Antonio, Brown and Beckham like two and three years. 541 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: However you want, I'd probably go just and again, you 542 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: don't to be a diva doesn't mean you've been in 543 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: trouble or anything like Odell. Beckham has never done anything wrong. 544 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: Besides you had a little cocaine it looked like on 545 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: that pizza box. I'd probably go Odell because I do 546 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: think O'Dell's upside for being even more of a diva 547 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: with time is really high. Yet, don't forget Antonio has 548 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: him by five years, so O'Dell has already got a 549 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: got a pretty strong start. Antonio didn't start out as 550 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: a diva. You didn't turn into a b too like 551 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: three years ago. Uh. Can you explain sports betting in 552 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: laming in Layman's terms for us who don't completely understand 553 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: sports betting or might be looking to get into it 554 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: or does my bookie spell it out easy enough. I 555 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: don't talk gambling that much on here. I talked about 556 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: it on all my other platforms. I'm in business with 557 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: my bookie dot A g Promo, qode HAMD one uh gambling. 558 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: You know, I would imagine a lot of people listening 559 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: to this kind of understand the way it works. If 560 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: you're betting on a game in football, you just you 561 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: can bet on the point spread. There's you know, most 562 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: point spread started at three points. You know, the home 563 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: team automatically gets three points or gives three points, and then, 564 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: given on how good or bad a team is, the 565 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: number kind of moves from there. Now usually just with 566 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: the point spread, depending on how it's being bet it's 567 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: it's even odds. Meaning the way betting works, you gotta 568 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: give a vig. I mean, you've gotta bet a ten 569 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: dollars to win a hundred. Now, when you bet money lines, 570 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: that's where you can make good money. And I've made 571 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 1: some pretty good money line bets in the Super Bowls 572 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: in years past. If you bet an underdog, you get 573 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: them three, four, five to one, I mean two to 574 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: one is pretty big in the money line. And then betting, Like, 575 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: if you're betting the New England Patriot, it's playing the 576 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: New York Jets. The odds for them are not going 577 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: to be very good. So you bet a money line, 578 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: you probably gotta bet like four hundred dollars just to 579 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: make a hundred dollars. Uh. Then I think anyone that's 580 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: dab a little bit gambling loves doing parlays. I just 581 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: had one with St. Mary's losing to Villanova. Did not 582 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: come through. Now, they pay an incredibly high amount. You know, 583 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: I did a parlay with three games. I took Yale 584 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: plus seven and a half, I took St. Mary's to win, 585 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: and I took Minnesota to win two hundred dollars, paid 586 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: almost three thousand dollars. The thing with parlays. And again, 587 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: if you're listening, you're like, no ship, John, I gamble. 588 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: I get that this is layman's terms. They pay the 589 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: two of my two hundred dollars turned into three thousand. 590 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: So because they're all correlated, there's some formula. It's incredible. Now, 591 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: as I just found out, as I took a little 592 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: break the dinner before I recorded this Middlecoff mail bag 593 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: and watch St. Mary's. It's really hard to win parlays 594 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: when you have three plus because you're not gonna pick 595 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: every game, right. The problem with the parlay also is 596 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: once you hit it one time. A couple of years ago, 597 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: I hit in it just the best parlay of my life. 598 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: Pick like six NFL games and one of them was 599 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: the Broncos over the Saints, and it was like a 600 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: last second field goal block where they returned it for 601 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: a touchdown. The Chiefs against the Carolina Panthers. I think 602 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: that same day Eric Barry at two pick six is 603 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it was incredible. It gives me chills just 604 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: thinking about it. But it was unrealistic and it was 605 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: like ninety dollars one liked. Like I said, you win 606 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: it one time, you'll always go back. Any good gambler 607 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: will tell you just bet individual games. So if you 608 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: want to bet individual games like March Madness or when 609 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: the NFL season, just bet on teams. I like betting underdogs, uh, 610 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: just because when you especially when you get big points spreads, 611 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: and especially in the NFL. UH most games are decided 612 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: by a touchdown. That's yeah. Layman s terms the pod 613 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: Bears question for you, what are realistic expectations after last 614 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: season twelve and four was a shock to everyone. Is 615 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: Trabinsky a long term guy and improvement on last year 616 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: or more like Dac where ideally you'd want to move 617 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: off him once his rookie deal expires. I think this 618 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: is a huge year for Trabisky. Now technically it's only 619 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: a third year, so I think he's got two more 620 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: good years left twelve and four. I don't know if 621 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: that's that unrealistic. Your defense is just absolutely stacked now 622 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: Fangio's gone, but talking with a buddy with the Bears, 623 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: he's like, bro, we got everyone coming back, and we 624 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: added ha ha on a proven deal. So you got 625 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: both corners back. You got Eddie Jackson back, you got Trevathan, 626 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: you got Roquan Smith back, and you've got the entire 627 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: front back Floyd a team, Eddie Mac like, all these 628 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: guys are rolling back. So the defense should just be 629 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: Chuck Mcgonodh's not Vic Fangio, but he's pretty damn good, 630 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: and it's I think me or you could just coach 631 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: the defense to be just solid and then Matt Maggie 632 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: with another year. They added CP eight E four Corboro Patterson, 633 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: you got Allen Robinson coming back. You know they got 634 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: Tarik Coh and Trubisky should be better at their offensive line. 635 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: They resented Bobby Massey. I think they they're a double 636 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: digit win team and should be in the playoffs. To me, 637 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: the only way they're not in the playoffs if Troubinsky 638 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: just falls off a cliff, and I don't see that 639 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: happen just because they're too innovative on offense. He's just 640 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: too athletic. So even if it's like when he's off 641 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 1: throwing the ball, which as we saw it can happen, 642 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: he can just run around it makes it happen. That's 643 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: a great part about having athletic quarterback. They don't have 644 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: to be the most accurate guys because the end of 645 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: the day, they can just scramble around and pick up 646 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: first down. So to me, as we sit here today March, 647 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: even regardless of what happens after the draft, now the 648 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: Bears don't have a first round pick because of clil Mack, 649 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: I think the Bears are the favorite to win that division. 650 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: And really, when you look at the division, the Lions 651 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: are at shambles, the Packers are going through a transitional point. 652 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: The Vikings should be pretty good. I mean, they resigned Bar, 653 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: They've got some guys coming back, Kirk Cousins, you think 654 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: would be a little more comfortable. Uh, they got some 655 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: continuity now at the offensive staff. But still, I think 656 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: the Bears. And again I'm biased. Matt Maggie is my guy, 657 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: and I got a couple buddies on the staff, and 658 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm a sneaky Bears fan now, but I 659 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: think on paper, when you look at last year, are 660 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: they twelve and four? Maybe they're ten or eleven, but 661 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna be good. I mean that their defense they 662 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: should be like Seattle for these next two years. Remember 663 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: Seattle for those like four year stretch with the number 664 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: one scoring defense for four straight years. That's what the 665 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: Bears should be for the next, last year, this year, 666 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: and next year, just like the top defense. That's just 667 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: who they should be. That's what their personnel says that 668 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: they deserve of to be. And all these guys they 669 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: have are in their prime. It's not like you know 670 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: Khalil Max thirty five, No, he's Kim Hicks is what 671 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: seven Rokwan Smiths like two. I mean, Danny Trevathan is 672 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: kind of old and He's not even that old. Eddie 673 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: Jackson's what twenty four? I mean, all these guys are 674 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: young and in their prime. What's Kyle Fuller? Is that? 675 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: Is it? Kyle fer as Kyle Fuller? What's what's he? 676 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: His brother Kendall is on the Chiefs and he's in 677 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: his middle late twenties. So all these guys are in 678 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: the prime of their careers. Actually, I don't love Gruden, 679 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: but isn't it true that their financial woes were severe 680 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: that they could not sign Mac not enough cash reserve 681 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 1: to escrow. Hence all of Gruden's moves are informed by 682 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: what by that crisis? Is this true and just not 683 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: talked about by the media or am my tinfoiling over here? 684 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: I just don't think we know. No one has Mark 685 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: Davis's bank account. But what we do know about Mark 686 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: Davis is he has the least amount of cash of 687 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,959 Speaker 1: any NFL owner. They do not have other businesses. Now, 688 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: every NFL team gets two million dollars, and for the 689 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: last several years have got around that amount. So your 690 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: players are paid for by the media, right steals. But 691 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: the Raiders don't make any money out their stadium. There's 692 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: just That's why they're moving. I mean, they make no 693 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: money in this area, which is kind of baffling. Everyone, 694 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: including John Middlecoff from his home office, is able to 695 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: do pretty damn well. Like business is not that difficult 696 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: around here. There's so much commerce, there's so much just 697 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: so many people in football. Is in pro football by 698 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: far is our number one sport. The Raiders and forty Niners, Well, 699 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: the forty Niners definitely the Raiders. They've just done a 700 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: poor job with business. Now, does Mark have the cash 701 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: on his hand? In theory, if he wasn't moving, he 702 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: would have had it. But he spent so much money 703 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 1: over the last several years. But he bought some land 704 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: for I think eighty million in Vegas. They had to 705 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: pay some relocation fees. They've just spent a lot of money. 706 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: They spent a lot of money on the coaching staff. 707 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: They bought del Rio out. Like every ten million dollars 708 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: to Mark Davis is a big deal. Where Jerry Jones, 709 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: Stephen Ross or any of the big money guys, it's 710 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: not that big of a deal. So I I do 711 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: think it's pretty realistic that last year they did not 712 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: have you know, if ninety million guarantees, what if the 713 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: signing bone, I think Khalil signing bonus was like sixty million, 714 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: Maybe you didn't have sixty million on hand. Yes, that's 715 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: very that's a very real possibility. And I think the 716 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: people with the Raiders will tell you that's why you're moving. 717 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: I tell you back, like, why are you idiots in 718 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: this situation. You are in the in the heart of 719 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: one of the greatest economic stretches in the history of 720 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: the world these last six or seven years in the 721 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: Bay Area, and you morons couldn't get it done. Joe 722 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: Lacob came in here, moved right next to you, ran 723 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: circles around you, and as printed money beyond belief. Jed York, 724 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: who fired Jim Harbaugh for Jim tom Sula, has never 725 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 1: made more money in the last three or four years, 726 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: and he hasn't even one since hardball left, hasn't sniffed winning, 727 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: never made more cash, never been richer. Yet consistently the 728 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: Raiders cannot make a dime to save their life. And 729 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: that's why I think back to the Vegas thing. I 730 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: do think there are elements of the League office being nervous. 731 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: Mark Davis does not have good business people around him. 732 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: Uh it. Mark's not a business guy though. Mark, he's, 733 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: honestly when he talked to him, a really cool guy, 734 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: very blue collar, very easy to deal with. I always 735 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: got along with Mark Davis. People think I hate the Raiders. 736 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I've actually root from who Derek Carr. I 737 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: want to see them do well. If you like football 738 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: and you get to be around the Raiders, it's just 739 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: pretty cool. Like they are a very historic organization, but 740 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: they're very flawed organization. They're Tara bullet business and it 741 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: all stems al Davis was not a business guy. He 742 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: was a football guy. He was a football coach and 743 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of bled into what they have now. They 744 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: just got they just got low level business people operating, 745 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: and you know, if they want things to change when 746 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: they get to Vegas, they don't just need to win, 747 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: but they need to get people that know what they're 748 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: doing economically, uh not not necessarily Like they're good with contracts, 749 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,720 Speaker 1: they're good with players. That's I'm talking business wise, which 750 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: they have historically been. I'd say them and the Bengals, 751 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: uh terrible. And the difference I'd say the Raiders and 752 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: the Bengals, like the Raiders have one of the most 753 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: legendary logos and just some of the sayings they have, 754 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: like they have a brand and they like the Chargers 755 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: and the Bengals. Yeah, their mom and pop shops, but 756 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: they don't really have brands, you know. I mean the 757 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders. They're a national slash worldwide brand. Like when 758 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 1: you see that logo, you know it. And to still 759 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: not be able to cash in as to make you 760 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: a little nervous while they're making this move if they 761 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: can figure it out and get it done, because they've 762 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 1: never half been able to. Uh So, yeah, back to 763 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: your question, could it have been with the money. I've 764 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: heard different people in different front offices and different agents 765 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: that had different opinions, So I I just don't know. 766 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be shocked if he did not have 767 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: the amount of money that the Bears gave to Khalil 768 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: mac in his bank account. And I don't know the rules. 769 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,240 Speaker 1: He's taken out so many loans that maybe he's just capped. 770 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: He can't take out another loan, because people, why didn't 771 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: he just take out a loan? It's like, that's a 772 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: good question. I I don't know. It's it's the Raiders 773 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: appreciate everyone listening. Audios, godspeed, enjoy the day, enjoy the 774 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: attorney this weekend, and I'll talk to you next week. 775 00:41:44,440 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: John Middlecoff three out se