WEBVTT - Composting: Nature's Most Interesting Process

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<v Speaker 1>do a clumps bordered them. Oh wow, that is a

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<v Speaker 1>bad joke. It was really good one of the I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the Simpsons didn't get too funny, but that was that

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<v Speaker 1>was a good one. Well, anything goes on a treehouse

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<v Speaker 1>of horror, you know, I agreed. So you know, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bunch of cities that have kind of gotten

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<v Speaker 1>woke to the idea that we should be recycling or

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<v Speaker 1>composting our food. Did you know that? Sure? I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a stat said something like of food gets wasted. But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess suspicious because I also saw that of the

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<v Speaker 1>um stuff that goes to municipal landfills or trash is

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<v Speaker 1>food waste, which doesn't necessarily mean it's wasted food, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you would count like a banana peal

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<v Speaker 1>as food waste as wasted food because the box. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not counting food packaging food. No, but I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>counting everything that has to do with food that could

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<v Speaker 1>conceivably be eaten as wasted food, which is not the

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<v Speaker 1>same as food waste. The point is, the legitimate stat

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw just about everywhere is that if you

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<v Speaker 1>took all the garbage that the United States throws away

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<v Speaker 1>into a landfill, of that is food waste. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure some of it is a whole cake. Some complete

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<v Speaker 1>moron through a whole cake away for no good reason.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on a diet. Well that's actually a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good reason. But you know what I'm saying, Um, of

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<v Speaker 1>all that trash is food. The problem is you might say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>who cares trash? It decomposes. That's great, that's true, it

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<v Speaker 1>does decompose. But in the landfills that the United States uses,

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<v Speaker 1>we make sure they're anaerobic. Oxygen doesn't get down there.

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<v Speaker 1>So a whole different decomposition process takes place, and in

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<v Speaker 1>a landfill in anaerobic decomposition, methane is produced, and methane

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<v Speaker 1>is bad news. Methane in is something on the order

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<v Speaker 1>of sevent worse. I know, there's a much more scientific

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<v Speaker 1>way to put it, but it's seventy batter than carbon

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<v Speaker 1>dioxide as far as greenhouse gases go, more potent, how

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<v Speaker 1>about that? Okay, So you don't want methane. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have to choose between methane and carbon dioxide, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go with carbon dioxide. And it just so happens

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<v Speaker 1>that if you compost food waste, mostly carbon dioxide is produced.

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<v Speaker 1>Methane is not. So if you're diverting this food waste

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<v Speaker 1>from landfill, there's a whole bunch of different stuff you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, you're saving all that the space for actual trash,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're extending the life of your land sir. You're

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<v Speaker 1>keeping all that methane from being produced. And as if

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<v Speaker 1>it couldn't get any better, you are creating an amazing

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<v Speaker 1>fertilizer that you can use to grow. You could grow

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<v Speaker 1>a tree out of a shoe, for eyes are so

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<v Speaker 1>good the old shoe tree. Uh yeah, it's Um, we've

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<v Speaker 1>danced around this a lot. We we well, you just

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<v Speaker 1>referenced star and I don't like to tutor on horns

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, but that Landfills episode was great landfills And

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<v Speaker 1>don't forget the plasma incinerator one. Yeah, basically any of

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<v Speaker 1>our waste management ones are Yeah, what else? I think

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<v Speaker 1>grilla gardening we touched on this, sum and um, a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of others. We've mentioned composting and to the extent

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<v Speaker 1>where I thought we had done one on composting, but

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<v Speaker 1>we had not until about five and a half minutes ago. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a guess. So if you're rite and say

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<v Speaker 1>it like it was eight minutes, chuck, you're grounded. So,

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<v Speaker 1>like you mentioned, we didn't. I don't think these numbers

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<v Speaker 1>are accurate anymore. But we generate. Let's just say a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of millions of tons, hundreds of millions of tons

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<v Speaker 1>of trash, and about twenty five of that is recovered

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<v Speaker 1>through recycling, which includes composting, which is good. But that number,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was se would be amazing. Does that include composting?

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<v Speaker 1>That that recycling number? Yeah, okay, yeah, fifties seventy would

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<v Speaker 1>be great? Why not let's shoot for ninety. Well, supposedly,

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle itself um has a goal of something like six

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<v Speaker 1>of all of its trash being recycled by the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the year. Of course they do, because Seattle does

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<v Speaker 1>it right, and they actually have compulsory mandatory composting. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>like you have to compost if you live in the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Seattle. Why don't I live there? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I asked myself that a lot. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Emily and I went for our two shows ago on

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<v Speaker 1>that lovely spring weekend. It was gorgeous and we we

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<v Speaker 1>stayed extra in Seattle, and after we were like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>moving here. That's it. It's a great town. I've said

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<v Speaker 1>it before on the show Dogs and Bars. That was

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<v Speaker 1>all it took, uh Dog bar tenders. But again, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll explain poker again, it's easy to fall in love

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<v Speaker 1>a Seattle on a perfect weekend in April. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>hear it. Range there a lot though I'd still live there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a great place. And you know what, you may

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<v Speaker 1>see us again this year's Seattle tease tease. You're such

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<v Speaker 1>a tease, all right, So composting is great for a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand reasons. But one, uh, first and foremost is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not hard to do and it's not expensive

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<v Speaker 1>to do if you just want to be uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are many different levels of composting, from big city

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<v Speaker 1>programs to the home farmer that takes it super seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>to just if you just want to lessen the impact

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit on your landfill, your local landfill, feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you're doing the right thing, and get a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of nutrient rich goodness fertilizer to use. You can

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<v Speaker 1>have it just a little, small, little composting operation going

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<v Speaker 1>on at your house. Yeah, this is all. This is

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<v Speaker 1>all you need organic waste. And we don't even mean

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<v Speaker 1>something that's like organic. We mean like organic, meaning it's

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<v Speaker 1>composed mostly a carbon. It was once alive at one point, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I made a poopy noise, which you can't use poops. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's night soil. It's the opposite of what I should

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<v Speaker 1>have done. Uh. What's a banana sound? That's a banana souniol. Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>You need soil, you need water, need air or oxygen. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the organic waste is the stuff you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>broken down, which in this case, in the case of

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<v Speaker 1>a compost pile is food the soil, well partially sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, no, it's food for the things that in

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<v Speaker 1>the soil, right, it's an energy source and nutrient source

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<v Speaker 1>for what's in the soil. So you add soil. When

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<v Speaker 1>you're adding soil, you're basically adding starter culture to the compost.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're doing is grabbing microbes from say, in your yard,

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<v Speaker 1>and putting them on the compost pile and say dinners

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<v Speaker 1>on boys. Yes, but you don't want to poop in it.

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<v Speaker 1>You need a little bit of water, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it moist, but you don't want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>it over wet because microbes like slightly moist soil. And

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<v Speaker 1>then air because again again this is really really important.

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<v Speaker 1>You can let your compost pile um degrade anaerobically, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna produce methane, which is bad for the for

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<v Speaker 1>the environment, a for your neighbors, bad for your neighbor's,

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<v Speaker 1>bad for you. It's gonna stink, it might blow up,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows. You don't want to smoke near a what's

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<v Speaker 1>called a passive compost pile, so you want to just

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<v Speaker 1>introduce oxygen and all this sounds very complicated. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>it's hitting it with your hose. It's um and by

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<v Speaker 1>that I mean spraying water on it with your hose.

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<v Speaker 1>Just realized you can with your host too. Um. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like turning it over right the pitchfork to add oxygen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's as simple as that. Yeah, it's really easy. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're gonna end up with the end, like

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<v Speaker 1>we said, is is really fertilizer. But it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>called humus. I don't call it hummus. No, that's different.

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<v Speaker 1>Has has two ms, right, Uh, this is just one M.

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<v Speaker 1>And um. Those little micro organisms in there, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>break this stuff down. They're gonna eat it, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>poop it out, and they're gonna multiply, and there's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be we'll we'll talk about the critters a little more later,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're gonna be different critters along the way that

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<v Speaker 1>eat those gritters than gritters that eat those gritters. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna get really hot up in there. It might steam,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's gonna cool back down. It's gonna get smaller,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just like this little micro environment. It is

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<v Speaker 1>really really neat. There's actually a food web in there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of physics and chemistry that's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it is very neat. I'm fascinated by it too.

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<v Speaker 1>But the upshot of composting is that you're taking something

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<v Speaker 1>and it's being broken down into its constituent parts so

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<v Speaker 1>that it can be reused by plants and the whole

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<v Speaker 1>circle of life can start over again. Yeah, you're sort

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<v Speaker 1>of just accelerating the natural process of like rot, you're

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<v Speaker 1>optimizing it. Yeah, Like you mentioned a passive composter, which

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<v Speaker 1>is to say, you know, lazy hippies, you could you

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<v Speaker 1>could just throw all that junk out of your window

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted, in a big pile and throw your

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<v Speaker 1>some grass clippings on and throw throw your your fall

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<v Speaker 1>leaves on there. Just leave it there, and that thing

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<v Speaker 1>will eventually compost itself. Well again, it'll produce methane. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>blow up, or you can turn you know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>turn it every now and then and maybe avoid that.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I think that makes it an active pile. Well, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>slightly active pile then, I don't mean like every other

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<v Speaker 1>day just to avoid methane. Maybe, but that would still

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<v Speaker 1>technically be an active pile, would be a poorly managed,

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<v Speaker 1>active pile, slightly active, poorly managed. So I'm serious, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they call it. I know, Okay, I'm just we'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to make up our own names for things. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know you were going to cease that and in

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<v Speaker 1>year nine. Sorry, we'll call that the dooby pile. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now it's called active management. I just wanted to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that we got it on the record. So, uh

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<v Speaker 1>the big goal here is to reduce your waste. They

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<v Speaker 1>say in this article. Ultimately we'll save you tax money

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<v Speaker 1>because your landfill won't. I thought that was hilarious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, don't count on seeing any any tax breaks

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<v Speaker 1>coming anytime soon. But that that got William F. Buckley's

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<v Speaker 1>attention probably, so, uh so, how do you how do

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<v Speaker 1>you do this? Let's say you want to start composting.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a one, two, three, five step process to get

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<v Speaker 1>this thing going. Okay, well, let's talk about them. The

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<v Speaker 1>first thing you want to do is just pick out

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<v Speaker 1>the place you want to do it, all right, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's a bit of a mess. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have to be necessarily, but it depending on

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<v Speaker 1>your neighbors. They might be like, well, great, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you started an unsightly pile of kitchen rubbish in food

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<v Speaker 1>waste I can see from my deck. Thanks a lot

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<v Speaker 1>for that. So that's something you want to keep in consideration. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you do have a very well managed active pile. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you call that. I'm not making it funny

0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:27.240
<v Speaker 1>name anyway, I've ruined it. Um, It's still it's still

0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.319
<v Speaker 1>may stink here there. So you want to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>away from the house, but not so far away that

0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.240
<v Speaker 1>if you're feeling lazy, you're not gonna go out and

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<v Speaker 1>tend to it on a daily or every other day

0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:42.160
<v Speaker 1>lead basis. Yeah, and if you have that much land

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<v Speaker 1>that you have a compost pile a mile from your house,

0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.760
<v Speaker 1>good for you. Yes, you got some acreage. Uh, there

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<v Speaker 1>might be some local rules, either from your h o

0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.120
<v Speaker 1>A heaven forbid if you have to belong to one

0:13:56.120 --> 0:14:00.080
<v Speaker 1>of those, or maybe just your municipality might have of

0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.840
<v Speaker 1>rules and regulations. Yeah, so check with them first. That's

0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.160
<v Speaker 1>what everyone does before they started compost pile. They go

0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.000
<v Speaker 1>down to city hall and say, what tell men the

0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.839
<v Speaker 1>rules and regulations surrounding composting in my yard? And I

0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.160
<v Speaker 1>think the first thing everyone does is start throwing their

0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.880
<v Speaker 1>eggshells out the window. Sure, that's how it always starts.

0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like I'm tired of these things being in my trash. Uh.

0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:24.080
<v Speaker 1>They recommend down wind because, like you said, it might

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<v Speaker 1>stink a bit. Uh. Sun it's good in a way,

0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:29.560
<v Speaker 1>but you don't want it baking in the sun all

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<v Speaker 1>day no, because it will dry it out. Remember, you

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<v Speaker 1>want it to be kind of moist, and the sunlight

0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:38.840
<v Speaker 1>can actually dry it out, so you want Apparently the

0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.040
<v Speaker 1>best place to put it is under a deciduous tree.

0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Good spot. Yeah, because in the in the wintertime there's

0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.560
<v Speaker 1>no leaves on the tree, so the sun is gonna

0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.520
<v Speaker 1>keep it warm when it's cold. But during summer it's

0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.640
<v Speaker 1>going to be shaded by the tree so it won't

0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:57.440
<v Speaker 1>dry out. It's just perfect. It is deciduous tree equals love. Uh.

0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Wind is good to provide little air, but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want it low and scattering the stuff all over the

0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.520
<v Speaker 1>place drying it out again. No good. What else drainage?

0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Don't start one in that old baby pool that you

0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:13.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want to throw out, especially if your baby's in there. Uh. Yeah,

0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.200
<v Speaker 1>you want good drainage, like generally you build either build

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<v Speaker 1>a bin. We'll talk about this stuff actually right now.

0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:26.240
<v Speaker 1>But it's off the ground, it's on legs. Yeah, although

0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.640
<v Speaker 1>you can't have a pile. But um, you know generally

0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you want to you want to build a bin or

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<v Speaker 1>buy a bin, and those things sit off the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>right because of drainage, that's part of it for sure. Yeah. Um,

0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you also want dirt rather than say like a concrete

0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.080
<v Speaker 1>pad or something like that. Yeah, don't come post in

0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.680
<v Speaker 1>your driver. It's not a good idea. Um. As far

0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:52.760
<v Speaker 1>as structures go, you can, like you said, you can

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<v Speaker 1>go buy one. They're not very expensive from what I understand, right, Yeah,

0:15:56.960 --> 0:15:58.920
<v Speaker 1>it depends on the size. You can also say go

0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.760
<v Speaker 1>buy some cinder block and build something like that. Um.

0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:07.920
<v Speaker 1>But basically you can cut compost structures into two. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a single bin and there's a three bin system. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the single bin system, you put new stuff on top,

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<v Speaker 1>new banan appeals. This is what I think of when

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<v Speaker 1>I think composting. You know, Um, you put new stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on top, and then you take a pitchfork or shovel

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that and you work you work it

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<v Speaker 1>in to the compost and at the bottom of this structure,

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<v Speaker 1>say it's open when you're walking up to it, that

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<v Speaker 1>the finished compost will accumulate at the bottom. And the

0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.480
<v Speaker 1>reason it accumulates at the bottom because it's of a finer,

0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:48.600
<v Speaker 1>finer grain um and that's it single bin new stuff

0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:52.080
<v Speaker 1>at the top, stuff that's in the process in the middle,

0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:54.400
<v Speaker 1>stuff that's finished in the bottom, and it will just

0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.480
<v Speaker 1>naturally kind of separate like that. And when we're talking

0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.520
<v Speaker 1>structure like that, if you want to build one, you know,

0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:01.760
<v Speaker 1>build a way frame and it's like got chicken wire

0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:05.080
<v Speaker 1>walls and a chicken wire bottom, and that gives you

0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.640
<v Speaker 1>the air. And if you've got something that collected underneath,

0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna fall, you know, when it's small enough, Uh,

0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:12.960
<v Speaker 1>some other stuff might fall. You may need to add

0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.480
<v Speaker 1>it back in. But with the three bend system, you've got,

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<v Speaker 1>well you've got three bends, you've got the starter stuff,

0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.000
<v Speaker 1>you've got the once it starts to break down a

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<v Speaker 1>little stuff, and then you have the more finished product

0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and you have to actively manage that system. Yeah, that

0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:34.080
<v Speaker 1>system sounds unnecessarily difficult, kind of like it. Oh you're

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<v Speaker 1>a three bing guy. Well, we're about to get into

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<v Speaker 1>this for real. We've been um, lazily composting for a while,

0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.520
<v Speaker 1>but um, we're we're doing our whole backyard, like we're

0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:48.280
<v Speaker 1>getting rid of our grass. Basically, what are you gonna

0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:54.639
<v Speaker 1>do compost mulch in beds and plants and herbs and

0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:59.080
<v Speaker 1>cacti in and all that. Uh no cacti that we

0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.360
<v Speaker 1>do have a palm tree. We've that forever though. Um, yeah,

0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.640
<v Speaker 1>just getting rid of the grass basically because it takes

0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:09.520
<v Speaker 1>up so much water. Just it's just it's not good

0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:13.040
<v Speaker 1>grass to begin with. And I'm not the best about

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<v Speaker 1>cutting it. Lawnmowers are terrible enough. You never let a

0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:22.320
<v Speaker 1>quarter inch of water accumulating exactly, Yeah, just into you know,

0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.879
<v Speaker 1>it'll it'll look nicer. So part of this in this

0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.359
<v Speaker 1>company that's doing it is it's not just a landscaping

0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:32.480
<v Speaker 1>company there there. They are a bunch of hippies. So

0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:34.760
<v Speaker 1>they're they're designing it in such a way that that

0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:39.000
<v Speaker 1>feeds itself. And part of that is composting anyway, A

0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.679
<v Speaker 1>long long way of saying, we're gonna start like for

0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.560
<v Speaker 1>real composting very shortly, and you're going with the three

0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.600
<v Speaker 1>bin structure. I don't know, I think I'm gonna build

0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:52.320
<v Speaker 1>it it's well, it's the structure Emily tells me to build.

0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:56.080
<v Speaker 1>It's the easiest way to say it. Yeah, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you buy one, like you were saying, Um, there's all

0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:01.119
<v Speaker 1>different kinds, just you know, look look it up online

0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.320
<v Speaker 1>or go to a hardware store, and you know, many

0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:07.360
<v Speaker 1>of them will look like a big barrel on legs

0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.679
<v Speaker 1>and it literally turns like has a crank on it

0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.119
<v Speaker 1>where you can turn this thing in circles. It's old timing,

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.960
<v Speaker 1>so you don't have to use a pitchfork at all. Right,

0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:18.760
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to muss your hands or your hair.

0:19:18.880 --> 0:19:23.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like a bingo, yeah, spinner, but with banana pill.

0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever played bingo, like legit bingo in a

0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:30.920
<v Speaker 1>room with hundreds of people, not hundreds, well more than

0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.240
<v Speaker 1>like you and you me, yes, like a bingo parlor?

0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Is that what they're called. I've actually gone to um

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of like uh senior retirement homes and helped

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<v Speaker 1>out with bingo And that's a pretty pretty cool experience actually,

0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:52.160
<v Speaker 1>because do you run the bingo? It's qualified to run

0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the bingo, right, just walk around and point out if

0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody missed one that they you know, it was called

0:19:57.960 --> 0:19:59.720
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. But did you want to talk

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.800
<v Speaker 1>about taking it seriously? Oh my god. And then you

0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:06.920
<v Speaker 1>have to be a certified bingo master to run the show. Yeah,

0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 1>and they'll like tell you to hurry up and like

0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:12.359
<v Speaker 1>shout if you're if you're not like loud enough for

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:15.440
<v Speaker 1>fast enough, for going too fast. Like. So the point

0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:18.840
<v Speaker 1>is not to have fun now, the point is to win. Wow.

0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:22.440
<v Speaker 1>What do they win their prizes? Yeah? Nothing much usually,

0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but you can, I think, like you can

0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.120
<v Speaker 1>play bingo and casinos for thousands and thousands of dollars

0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 1>usually at old folks humes. They don't, you know, sure

0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.360
<v Speaker 1>there's not thousands of dollar prizes like honey bunds ugarettes,

0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.560
<v Speaker 1>right exactly. All right, Well let's take a break here

0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:42.680
<v Speaker 1>after we have talked structure and uh, we'll talk a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about what you want what kind of junk

0:20:44.600 --> 0:21:07.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to throw in that pile? All right, chuck,

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.520
<v Speaker 1>So we're talking what you want to throw on the pile. Right,

0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you got your ben either a triple three banger cat

0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.920
<v Speaker 1>your site or single. You got your site. You bribed

0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:20.800
<v Speaker 1>your neighbor to look the other way, right, your neighbor exactly,

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:24.359
<v Speaker 1>You bought a goat, oh man talking about green living.

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.360
<v Speaker 1>My neighbor has goats now, like five of them. Are

0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.880
<v Speaker 1>they loud? No? Oh that's great. Everyone's while to hear them.

0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.400
<v Speaker 1>But it's a joy to hear. So it's like it's

0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.800
<v Speaker 1>not like a rooster. Do you wake up and look

0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 1>out and say morning satan. No, Well, goats one of

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.280
<v Speaker 1>my favorites, so it's kind of nice to have them around.

0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:44.560
<v Speaker 1>But baby goats or adult goes, No, they're big ones.

0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:47.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean she got them to maintain the property because

0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.680
<v Speaker 1>she was started cutting. I guess she didn't want a

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:54.080
<v Speaker 1>zero escape it, so she bought goats. Anyway, it's it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh kitchen waist, Josh, that's what you want to throw

0:21:58.080 --> 0:21:59.840
<v Speaker 1>in there? Well, yeah, that's the first one. That's the

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:04.240
<v Speaker 1>one that everybody says. That's why you compost, right, And yeah,

0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 1>banana peels everybody knows that. But did you also know

0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you can compost apple cores in orange rins. You can

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:15.159
<v Speaker 1>also eat apple cores. Yeah? You you believe there is

0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.359
<v Speaker 1>no such thing as a core, right, that's because there's

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:22.160
<v Speaker 1>not um seeing people who leave their apple cores left over.

0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:25.320
<v Speaker 1>They can compost those things. Those are the easy ones.

0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:28.720
<v Speaker 1>You can also do coffee grounds. Yeah, that's a good one.

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Paper filters through that filter and all in there. Okay,

0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 1>So let's just say I a maybe a whole pizza

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<v Speaker 1>to myself. I've got a couple of napkins wadded up.

0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:41.840
<v Speaker 1>What do I do with those? Chuck? Uh? I think

0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.960
<v Speaker 1>you can throw those napkins in there, Josh, Yeah, isn't

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that crazy? It is crazy. Newspaper Yeah, corn cobs if

0:22:49.840 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>you still read a newspaper, if you get your news

0:22:51.760 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 1>on the internet, throw your laptop in there. Watermelon rins, yeah, seeds,

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 1>leaves uh, you know the butt end of the asparagus

0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:06.840
<v Speaker 1>that no one cooks, but that junk in there. Um.

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:10.119
<v Speaker 1>You can also do yard waste too, sure, right, So

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you've got grass clippings, which we'll talk about in a second.

0:23:12.840 --> 0:23:14.680
<v Speaker 1>We got a couple of warnings as far as grass

0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:18.280
<v Speaker 1>clippings goes, not too much. Um. But like, let's say

0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:21.200
<v Speaker 1>you're raking leaves or something like that, throw some leaves

0:23:21.240 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 1>on their good crunchy brown ones. And you can also

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:28.159
<v Speaker 1>throw like, um, trimmings from your like shrubs if you

0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:33.119
<v Speaker 1>trim your woody shrubs. Um. The key here is this, chuck.

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>You want to cut all this stuff up in small bits. Yeah,

0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 1>don't throw a whole corn cob in there. You can

0:23:42.000 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 1>know your compost pole. Just throw it right back out. Yeah,

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:47.399
<v Speaker 1>it'll just spit it right back out right. It's very funny.

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 1>It'll make a burping noise. Uh. They say to shred

0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.160
<v Speaker 1>the corn cob. I don't have a corn cobs shredder.

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't either. Um, I've never thought about that. I

0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:01.520
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't waste like my blender blade on chopping up corn cops.

0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I think the point is breaking into little pieces. Sure,

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>you can breaking into little pieces though, yeah, you probably

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 1>a corn coup up. Yeah, and you can also like

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 1>you can take all this stuff and chop at anything.

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:17.719
<v Speaker 1>You can put in smaller pieces the better because, as

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 1>we'll see, what you're really doing is you're not just

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:22.280
<v Speaker 1>breaking it up. You have to look at it like

0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing is increasing the surface area so more

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:28.160
<v Speaker 1>microbes can work on it at once. Yeah. Like, if

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 1>if you have I know you hate broccoli, but I

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 1>hate broccoli. You cut the little florets off, and you've

0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>got that big green broccoli stalk. Uh, cut that thing

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.359
<v Speaker 1>up as small as you can and set it on

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 1>fire you have patience for and throw that junk in there. Yeah,

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:50.119
<v Speaker 1>basically channel your inner anal chef. You remember him, the

0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:52.439
<v Speaker 1>anal Chef? Yeah, is that a real thing? Yeah? And

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Saturday a Live Bill Hartman. No, I don't retain of chef. Okay,

0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:00.159
<v Speaker 1>I forgot the retinive part that. Yeah, I remember qual

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 1>of fire. It's like, I don't get that joke. Mommy,

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:07.679
<v Speaker 1>remember the anal retentive chef? Yeah? I do remember that. Now.

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:09.880
<v Speaker 1>He'd like start to if he was dicing like green

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>peppers and one of them was bigger than the rest,

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:14.040
<v Speaker 1>he'd just be like, Okay, well you want to take

0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>those chunks and you want to put him into a

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.480
<v Speaker 1>paper towel, and then you want to fold that up,

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>and then you put that into some aluminum fole and

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 1>you fold that up, and you put that in a

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.239
<v Speaker 1>paper bag and you roll it up and then you

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>staple it and then you throw it away. Boy man,

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 1>what that was? Oh it still makes me sad. So

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.199
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned newspaper earlier. Um, if you live near the

0:25:35.200 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>ocean and you've got your hands on some seaweed or

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>some kelp, you can rinse that stuff off. So you

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>don't want all that salt content in there. But it's

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 1>really good and nutrient rich if you rent that off

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and put it in your compost pile. And it's also

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 1>good for you to eat too. I know I saw

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 1>him nuts, but just eat that stuff. What do you

0:25:56.960 --> 0:26:02.560
<v Speaker 1>mean so good for you? Yeah? Sawdust? Do you know

0:26:02.600 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>any that? No, But like I'm building my compost, then

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I can put that saldust back in it. How about that? Yeah?

0:26:09.160 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Pretty neat circle of life. Baby? What should not you

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 1>compost night soil? Which is poopy soil? Cat You don't

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>go take a big dumpost dumps? You want to know

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>that's not good. UM disease garden plants, that's a big one.

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Some of this stuff though, as we'll find, it doesn't

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:35.479
<v Speaker 1>quite make sense. But it's just good to air on

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>the side of um. Garbage in, garbage out, except with compost.

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>If you put garbage garbage in, then it's going to

0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 1>be really bad. If you put good, healthy garbage in,

0:26:48.920 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 1>it's going to come out is quite good. So you

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>don't want to put any disease plants in there. UM

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 1>invasive weeds or another one too. Yeah, but it says

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:58.760
<v Speaker 1>you can also put weeds in there, so I guess

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 1>you just need to figure out which one are the

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>bad ones. Yeah, so this specifically calls out buttercups, morning glory,

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:11.159
<v Speaker 1>and quack grass. I'm quite sure that there's plenty of

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>seeds that wouldn't survive the composting process, but apparently these two.

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:20.280
<v Speaker 1>So stay away from the quack grass. That was I

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:24.400
<v Speaker 1>think that was the big mantra woodstock. It's a gateway drug.

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Don't have the yellow sunshine or the quack grass. It

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>was the brown the brown as which I mean, who

0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>wants brown acid? You know? And what about uh you're

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>talking abou kitchen stuff? What about meat and dairy? Okay,

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>that's that's controversial. It is because Emily had taken classes

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, no, don't use any of that.

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>That's like a animal cells and and fats in particular,

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 1>they putrefy, they don't decompose, and future faction makes some

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.879
<v Speaker 1>stinky stuff and I think it can also generate a

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of disease bearing pathogen. So I was surprised to

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>see this article say yeah, put it in there. Well,

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:06.399
<v Speaker 1>and they kind of said this article if you if

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:09.880
<v Speaker 1>you're really heavily managing this thing, you can do it

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. I've just heard, don't They said,

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 1>turn it into a slurry, which I don't want to

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>see freud and Riches blender at home with corn cob

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>leavings on it. But um, he said, whip it up

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 1>into a slurry, and as long as it's a good, hot,

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 1>actively managed pile, it'll it won't be a problem. I'm

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:33.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna go ahead and say, I don't think you should

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.360
<v Speaker 1>do that. Okay, I don't know what to do with

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:42.880
<v Speaker 1>the animal leavings, but I don't think you should compost it.

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.360
<v Speaker 1>All right, Uh, it might make sense to you to say, hey,

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I have an outdoor fire pit. I bet that would

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 1>be great in my composter. Incorrect, although this specifically says

0:28:55.120 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>charcoal ashes. I think that's any kind of charred ashes. Yeah,

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 1>like burnt wood is called charcoal. So are you sure?

0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Because I know what I know what you just said

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 1>was true. But supposedly the entire Amazon Basin and I

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>learned this from the Greatest Book of All Time by

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Charles C. Mann, The entire Amazon Basin was a managed forest,

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>um that the indigenous people's down there had made completely

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>fertile and fikoned by instead of slash and burn. They

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>were using slash and char techniques, and there was way

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>more carbon locked into the charred tree stumps and there

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>was the ashes, so it became more fertile. So I

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 1>have a question about that one. You know, I'm gonna

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>back off of my determined stance because I don't know

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>it would make sense if it was coal like it

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>it was like charcoal briquettes because they have cement and

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 1>all sorts of chemicals and jump on them. But if

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>it's charred wood or wood ash, I wonder, all right, well,

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>some boy, do you let us know Charles Man, tell us, uh,

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the pesticide treated plants. You you know, you know my

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>stands on pesticides period, don't use them. But if you do,

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 1>definitely don't put that stuff in there. Because your whole

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>thing here is you want to you want to more

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>or less organic compost pile right in the end, and

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>so one of the things that people love about composted

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>is it actually is organic. And we're going to explain how.

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know this until um we did this research,

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>but we'll explain how because we're going to go through

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the process that your compost pile undergoes. Right after this, Alright,

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I did something we rarely do, which is looks something

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>up as we're podcasting, because it just sounded lazy to

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, we don't know this one. Um. Gardens

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>alive dot com says, um, wood ashes are so strongly

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>alkaline that it doesn't take a lot to upset the

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>balance in the pile and stop the processing. You can

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>add a very small amount of wood ash from like

0:31:19.240 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>your fireplace or woodburning stove. Um, but apparently not much

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>so I think, you know, like you're kind of right,

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>and then it's it's not completely for boating, but it

0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 1>sounds like too much is not a good thing. I

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 1>think that's what Freud was just saying, like, don't even

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>mess with it. Put in animal fats instead. Well, and

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what the person from gardens alive was saying this,

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>like it's so little that it's not really going to

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 1>make a difference. And if you're trying to get rid

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>of it in a different way, she's like, it's not

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>really gonna matter. But the but it raises a great question, Chuck,

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 1>why in the name of all things holy would it

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>matter what the alkalinity is of your compost pile and

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you why. Because it's a chemistry experiment. It

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 1>is it's a it's a chemistry experiment, it's also a

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:10.360
<v Speaker 1>biological experiment. You have a microcosm growing there, and there's

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 1>actually really easy things you can do to optimize this

0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>and basically create a Zanna do paradise for the the

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 1>microbes and primary and secondary and tertiary um consumers of

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>this stuff that you're putting in there to break down

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 1>so that they just have the greatest life that any

0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:32.959
<v Speaker 1>invertebrate or microbe ever had. All right, should we talk

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 1>chemistry a bit then come back to just uh the

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>management and stuff. All right, what you're really talking about

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 1>here for an ideal composting scene, you need a disco ball,

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 1>and you need a proper uh C in ratio, which

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 1>is carbon to nitrogen ratio. And depending on how walky

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:55.720
<v Speaker 1>you want to get, if you want to start measuring things,

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you can do that. But from what I gather, just

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>eye and do a lot to a little about thirty

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 1>to one carbon to nitrogen and and eyeball it. When

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>the rule of thumb is this, if it's green and

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>um recently deceased and by green like a nice banana

0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:22.760
<v Speaker 1>peel would qualify as this. Right, if it's pliable and

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>green or you know, again recently deceased, it is um

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>high in nitrogen. Right, if it's brown and dried, it's

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 1>high in carbon. So you want to actually when you're

0:33:38.040 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>adding the compost, you want to just kind of layer

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 1>this stuff in about those ratios thirty to one, And

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>there's actually tables, like if you're a big time into this,

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 1>there are tables out there that tell you just about

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>exactly the carbon and nitrogen ratio in each individual thing.

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 1>But what we said earlier, you want to avoid grass clippings.

0:33:57.640 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>This is why, because they're too high in nitrogen. And

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>what happens when you have too much nitrogen it's bad, right,

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.919
<v Speaker 1>It makes your pile stinky. Yeah, that's is that where

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>the methane starts creeping in. That actually leads to ammonia gas. Right.

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 1>But you also don't want too much carbon either, chuck,

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>because so you carbon and nitrogen. Carbon is like the

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>building block and it's an energy source for these microbes.

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Nitrogen is um essential to their growth and their metabolic

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>activity as well. But when they have this in these concentrations,

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>that's when they flourish. Yeah. And the other problem with

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>carbon two is just just it breaks down so slowly. Um. Well,

0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>it depends on the source. Yeah that's true. But generally

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the carbon sources like newspaper and corn

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 1>cobs and stuff like that, it's just a much slower process,

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:53.439
<v Speaker 1>right right, So like they have um much tougher uh

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>structural support in their cells. If structural integrity exactly. Um,

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>they need to have a good dang it rhymes. If

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down. Um.

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were heading towards that. I was just

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of like on the edge of my seat, like

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a bit screen. Maybe maybe there is one that we

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:17.239
<v Speaker 1>don't know, or maybe someone can write one like a

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 1>creative listener. I would love to hear it. I'll bet

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>we get a bunch of those, all right, oxygen if

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you're talking uh, if we're talking ratios, and again, you

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>can walk out as much as possible. But the good

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 1>news is about your compost piles that it's not like

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it needs to be like the oxygen that you need

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:39.879
<v Speaker 1>walking around to breathe, which is in the atmosphere. Yeah,

0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.560
<v Speaker 1>that's what we have going on. It can get by

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>these aerobic microbes as low as five percent. Yeah, that's

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>cutting it close. That's getting close. They say, try to

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>hover somewhere around ten or up. And how do you

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>measure that? You don't? You just airate your pile and

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>it's fine by either turning it or you can do

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 1>hold PVC. And I guess that brings U kind of

0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:06.759
<v Speaker 1>to the management part. Um. You don't just sit there

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>unless you want to have a totally passive pile. And

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:13.240
<v Speaker 1>who wants that? You have to manage this thing, either

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>every day or every other day. Turn it, like we're saying,

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.840
<v Speaker 1>either with the little crank if you've got a handy

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:21.319
<v Speaker 1>little barrel unit, or with a pitchfork or they call

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:25.399
<v Speaker 1>it a composting fork in here. That's pretty fancy. Probably

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:27.280
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. And it's the same thing as a pitchfork,

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:31.439
<v Speaker 1>except like fifty dollars more. Uh, you want to water

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 1>it some, but again, um, do you want to give

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:38.279
<v Speaker 1>watering advice? You don't want it for me. You don't

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>want it to be soaking wet. No, you want to

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 1>be moist damp. People hate that word, so we'll see

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>damp um. And again I mentioned the perforated PVC pipes

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:52.040
<v Speaker 1>that can help. Uh. It says you can avoid turning

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it by having those pipes. I would still turn it.

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I would too, just to mix it up right. Yeah,

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 1>but putting PBC pipes throughout your pile would make it

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 1>really if cult to turn. So well, you can pull

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>them out, I guess you could, you know, but getting

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>them back in is a real pain. You can stick

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>him back in. Another way to get to introduce oxygen

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>is earthworms. Oh man, this is where I go crazy.

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we have a lot of worms on our property.

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:20.560
<v Speaker 1>And just because there's a lot of worms in Georgia. Um,

0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>we did a great episode on earthworms, remember, yeah, And

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>every time I find them, Um, I picked them up,

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>I show them to Emily and she immediately says, throw

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.600
<v Speaker 1>it in the garden, you know. And that's because we

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>weren't composting heavily. Now it's gonna be throw them in

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.399
<v Speaker 1>the compost pile. But these guys are great because they

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>naturally It made you a lot of things. But one

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>of the things they do is naturally aerate by just

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>tunneling through that stuff. Yeah. So earthworms and then worms

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 1>in general are probably the most important non microscopic resident

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.200
<v Speaker 1>in your compost pile. Yeah, because they do so much.

0:37:56.280 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 1>So worms and especially earthworms and most types of nematodes um.

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 1>They actually go in and like eat a lot of

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that's in the compost pile, a lot of

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the food waste, right or organic waste, and in doing

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 1>so they break it down, and as they break it down,

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>they make it easier for the microbes to digest themselves.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Should we start with the microbes? Okay, So again this

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 1>compost pile, when you add food waste to the pile

0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>and add soil, you're introducing energy source to energy consumer. Okay.

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>And at the base of this is the is microbial

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>life bacteria mostly but um. The bacteria go to town,

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.719
<v Speaker 1>they start eating this stuff, and the smaller it is,

0:38:44.040 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the more service area there is, the more the bacteria

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 1>can eat. And they actually take the nutrients out of

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:52.359
<v Speaker 1>this and use it for cellular respiration, which is why

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.399
<v Speaker 1>they need oxygen, because they take oxygen and combine them

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 1>with the carbon and they create a t P which

0:38:58.200 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>they use as an energy source to power their cells

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and live and frolic and play, and in doing so

0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>they create carbon dioxide. That's right. So um as they're

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 1>doing this, they're they're actually breaking the stuff down from

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>what you'd recognized as a banan appeal closer and closer

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to that finished humus project product. So you've got bacteria

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and they're a big part of it. And depending on

0:39:21.560 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the phase that the compost pile is in, uh, the

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 1>there will be different kinds of bacteria in your compost pile. Yeah,

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's not you know, just bacteria. There's a fun

0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>guy doing lots of work. Um. We mentioned neba toads there.

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna eventually get mites in there, and slugs. You've

0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>already thrown your worms in, some millipedes doing some action

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 1>with all this cute little legs. And overall these are

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:53.920
<v Speaker 1>known as primary consumers. Uh some are are there are

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 1>all of them primary consumers while they're listed okay by

0:39:58.200 --> 0:40:01.319
<v Speaker 1>this person who made this fancy chart. So then above that, chuck,

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:05.279
<v Speaker 1>you get the secondary consumers and those are right, those

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 1>are the um those are the predators of the primary consumers, right,

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and then you have tertiary consumers. They're the predators of

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>the secondary consumers. And so you put all this together

0:40:16.719 --> 0:40:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and what you have is a food web. If microbes

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 1>breaking the stuff down, worms and stuff doing the same

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>thing in some ways. Um, and then other predators, different

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 1>graduated levels of predators preying on the smaller animals to

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>keep their population in check and to keep everything in

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>a perfect balance so that it's as efficient as possible.

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 1>And eventually a great white shark comes along. What gets me,

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 1>eats the whole pile thanks to a shark. Nato. What

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:46.840
<v Speaker 1>gets me though, um the best. The best part of

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.439
<v Speaker 1>all this to me is that if you look at

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 1>the lifespan of a compost pile from brand new to

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:59.399
<v Speaker 1>finished humus to humus, it's a it forms a bell.

0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:02.479
<v Speaker 1>It's as the temperature gradient goes right, Yeah, it's really

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of cool. So the first stage is the mesophilic stage.

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Temperatures get up to I think forty degrees celsius. I

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>can't remember what that is in fahrenheight. Yeah, we'll go

0:41:12.800 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 1>with celsius. Okay, Um, so it's warmish. And then as

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the cellular respiration mounts and builds, a more more bacteria

0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 1>born and start eating and carry this cellular respiration out.

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:31.400
<v Speaker 1>The byproducts are c O two and heat, and heat

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:34.359
<v Speaker 1>starts to accumulate in the compost pile so much so

0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:37.160
<v Speaker 1>that it gets up to something like UM fifty to

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.279
<v Speaker 1>sixty degrees celsius, which is like a hundred to a

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:43.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty degrees fahrenheit, and it's hot. At this point,

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.240
<v Speaker 1>your organisms are gonna change. You're gonna have thermophilic. These

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 1>are a little heat loving critters, and they move in

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>because it's nice and warm. There snowbirds, their desert dwellers,

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:56.959
<v Speaker 1>and they like it when it's warm. Um. But here's

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the thing is you want to like you want you

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:01.360
<v Speaker 1>don't want to get too hot, so you want to

0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>continue to airate and keep that temperature and check. What

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 1>you want is that natural bell to happen on its

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:12.320
<v Speaker 1>own right. So the mesophilic Um bacteria die off or

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 1>they go kind of dormant as it enters the thermophilic phase,

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 1>and then after the thermophilic phase ends. The reason it

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 1>ends is because they've eaten up all of the stuff

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that's there to eat and only the hard stuffs left over.

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>And so the thermophiles go away and some of the

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>mesophiles come back and new stuff comes in like um

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 1>acts in of my seats, actin of my seats, which

0:42:38.880 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>are kind of like a weird fungi bacteria cross and

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 1>they break down like the really hard woody shrubby stuff.

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Um and they finish it off. And this third phase

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:51.880
<v Speaker 1>is called the curing phase, right, And at the end

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:55.359
<v Speaker 1>of all of it, you have this great nutrient rich

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>hummus humus. But in the middle of that, when it

0:42:59.000 --> 0:43:02.279
<v Speaker 1>gets really hot, Yeah, it gets so hot, chuck that

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.439
<v Speaker 1>pathogens that can make you sick, that can make animals sick,

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 1>that can make plants sick, are actually killed off in

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the face. Which is why when you get your hands

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 1>on compost on humus, it's organic. It's been basically treated

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>naturally to rid itself of parasites, pathogens, all sorts of

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>bad stuff. And all that's left is the nutrients that

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.800
<v Speaker 1>have been broken down in the process that a plant

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>can use very easily. And again the circle of life

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 1>starts over again. Yeah, and you know I mentioned sun

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 1>earlier can dry it out, but if if it gets

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:40.399
<v Speaker 1>over sixty five celsius, it's gonna kill off so many

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 1>microbes it's gonna really slow down your process. Uh. So

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 1>that's another reason you turn it is to kind of

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 1>keep and again don't have it direct sunlight, but it's

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep that temperature where it does its thing naturally.

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Where you don't want to, you know, put a heat

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>lamp on it. I just want to keep it moist,

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 1>turn it over and let it do its thing, and

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you might come out there on a chilly morning there

0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>might be steam coming off of that sucker and dude,

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:10.240
<v Speaker 1>that's when you just like you go hot dog dog.

0:44:11.160 --> 0:44:13.640
<v Speaker 1>You go inside and you eat a banana. Yeah, and

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.279
<v Speaker 1>you throw it on the on the pile. All right,

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 1>So when is it all over? Man? I just love

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 1>this is why I love earth science. Yeah, it's really

0:44:21.360 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 1>amazing because it's like it requires a little bit of

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 1>human management. But then you kind of just step away

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 1>and say, do your thing. It's really neat. Uh when

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:30.919
<v Speaker 1>is it over? Well, you can tell. There's a few

0:44:30.960 --> 0:44:34.040
<v Speaker 1>ways of being able to tell. Um the temperature starts

0:44:34.080 --> 0:44:37.759
<v Speaker 1>to go down. If it's below a hundred degrees fahrenheit,

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 1>it's out of the thermophilic phase and it's now into

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the mesophilic phase. This says that it's probably done. I disagree.

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I think you probably wanted even cooler than that, because

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the longer you let it cure the more um diverse,

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 1>the microbes inside are gonna be the better. The soil

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that you use to amend it with is going to

0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 1>be sure. Temperatures one uh, one of it is just

0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>eyeball it. And if it's if it's about decomposed, like

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:10.399
<v Speaker 1>if you still see clearly a banana peal, then it's

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 1>not done right. You don't want to recognize this stuff

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 1>is food at this point, um or an eggshell or whatever. Um?

0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:20.879
<v Speaker 1>And is it is it smaller? Is if it's been

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 1>reduced by and it's dark brown or black and crumbly

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 1>and it looks kind of like soil, then you're you're

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 1>cooking with gas. That's my dad used to say. Um,

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 1>the texture, did you say, smooth, crumbly? Yeah? What about

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the smell, Well, it shouldn't um, it shouldn't stink bad

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 1>at this point. No, it should smell earthy. And actually

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:49.080
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorites the actin of my sites, the

0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>actin of my seats. Okay, they are the reason that

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:57.200
<v Speaker 1>soil and dirt has its smell. It's those guys, Yeah,

0:45:57.440 --> 0:46:00.080
<v Speaker 1>they give it. It's earthy smell. That cool. Yeah, And

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I think we didn't mention you know that it's doing

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:05.200
<v Speaker 1>well along the way if it stopped smelling like it

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:08.279
<v Speaker 1>doesn't just stink the whole time, right, And it's not

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna smell earthy. The soil that you add will smell earthy.

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 1>But when you grab a handful of humus, it should

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:17.720
<v Speaker 1>just fall through your fingers. It should be the closer

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:21.359
<v Speaker 1>to black, the better. And it should smell like every

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 1>everything associated with earth should smell like. It's like the

0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>word earth. That's what it should smell like. Like, you'll

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:30.399
<v Speaker 1>understand what earth smells like. Yeah, they said pete moss.

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>If you if none of this makes sense, go to

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 1>your local hardware store or lawn and garden center and

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>smell the pete moss exactly. Um. So, now that it's done,

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:46.919
<v Speaker 1>you've got your wonderfully natural fertilizer. Use it, Put it,

0:46:47.000 --> 0:46:49.319
<v Speaker 1>spread it out in your garden, spread it out around

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 1>your trees, through it in your yard, spread it around

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 1>your naked body, and run around your yard if you

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 1>want to. Um, it's got a doobie pile, make you

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:05.800
<v Speaker 1>or quack grass. Yeah, stay away from that stuff. Um.

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:09.320
<v Speaker 1>It's basically like the easiest way to put it without

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>getting too scientific, is it's gonna make everything better. It's

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna increase soil microbes, it's gonna increase nutrients and enhance them.

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:20.400
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna improve the pH and chemistry of your soil,

0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:24.759
<v Speaker 1>your yards structure. And again, like what you've just done

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>is taken stuff and had it broken down into its components,

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 1>unlocked it for your plants to use. So your plants

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>are gonna say thank you brother. Pretty amazing. Uh. Some

0:47:36.600 --> 0:47:38.399
<v Speaker 1>people create a lot of it and sell it, but

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, mainly people do this to just use around

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.960
<v Speaker 1>their house. Yeah, and increasingly towns are starting to do

0:47:44.080 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>curb side composting. Pickup food waste, pickup where you got trash, recycling,

0:47:49.640 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 1>been food waste, been anipelesnipples Right, that's it, all right,

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>go forth and composts. If you want to know more

0:47:57.920 --> 0:48:00.439
<v Speaker 1>about composting, you can type that it in the search

0:48:00.520 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 1>part house to work dot com. Cornell actually also has

0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 1>a really great site about composting if you want to

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:08.120
<v Speaker 1>know more about the science of it. You were very excited.

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:11.759
<v Speaker 1>I love that. Um And since I said Cornell, it's

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 1>time for listening mails, I'm gonna call this child Life

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Specialists made a couple of these road and remember we

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:23.759
<v Speaker 1>talked about this in the Pain scalops and we kind

0:48:23.760 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 1>of surminds what it was, and we turns out we

0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 1>were right. And by the way, we heard from paramedics

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 1>doctors quite a few people about the worst pain. Yeah,

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't want a long bone fracture. Yeah, almost of

0:48:36.640 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 1>them said of broken femur is like the worst pain

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:42.720
<v Speaker 1>you can experience. And should we say why? Yeah, go ahead,

0:48:43.200 --> 0:48:46.440
<v Speaker 1>So several reasons. Right, we are right because apparently it's

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:50.520
<v Speaker 1>a very sensitive area, but also because without that structure,

0:48:50.560 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 1>your muscles start um spasm ing, which just rocks the

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.839
<v Speaker 1>whole thing back and forth even more. And then then

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:04.040
<v Speaker 1>like fragmented bone hitting nerve and like all kinds of badness.

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 1>So steer clear of that, all right. So, uh, we

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 1>heard from from two I'm gonna read the one, but

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna shout them both out. Hey, guys, very excited

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 1>to hear you mentioned child life specialists during a recent

0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 1>episode on Pain Scales. As a childlife specialist myself, I

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 1>thought we'd take the opportunity to tell you a little

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:24.120
<v Speaker 1>bit about our profession. You are right, Chuck, a childlife

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:28.200
<v Speaker 1>specialists is uh, we help kids deal with being hospitalized

0:49:28.520 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 1>that's really the essence of our job. We support children

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 1>and families throughout stressful situations such as hospitalizations, using our

0:49:35.600 --> 0:49:39.879
<v Speaker 1>knowledge of child development and play to facilitate coping. Child

0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Life specialists UM provide children with developmentally appropriate education about

0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 1>diagnoses and treatments, preparation and support for procedures and opportunities

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 1>for normalization and play. UM. What a great job. Seriously,

0:49:54.120 --> 0:49:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't think of too many jobs that are more

0:49:56.040 --> 0:49:59.800
<v Speaker 1>rewarding than that. Seriously. We also provide support for siblings

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 1>and provide legacy building and memory making and end of

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:08.080
<v Speaker 1>life situations. Our profession is very rewarding. Josh, you are right.

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 1>She predicted that you would say that, and I love

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:13.880
<v Speaker 1>going to work every day. To become a c l

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 1>S you must have a bachelor's or master's degree in

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>child development or a related field, complete a six hundred

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and forty our Childlife Internship, and past a national certification exam.

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>You can visit UH www dot child life dot org

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:34.400
<v Speaker 1>to learn more about it. UH thanks for what you

0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 1>guys do. You've made all my road trips interesting and

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:39.360
<v Speaker 1>thanks for spreading the word about child life. Maybe you

0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:42.400
<v Speaker 1>can do entire episode on our profession in the future,

0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:47.400
<v Speaker 1>she said, and that is Natalie Valentine. And also a

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 1>big shout out to Amanda Butler from Auburn University who

0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:54.480
<v Speaker 1>does that there. Thanks for writing in Ladies, it sounds

0:50:54.520 --> 0:50:58.600
<v Speaker 1>like just a really, really great job. Thanks to you

0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 1>both for that, and thanks for every buddy who has

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:05.400
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