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Speaker 1: Okay, let's do a little weekend mail bag because I

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with Jeffrey, do you think that Ashton

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Speaker 1: be over because it Richson went out, you guys are

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Speaker 1: already kind of struggling. You could have just lost all

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Speaker 1: the games. But I hear you like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: anyone's crazy for going. Why don't we just play Anthony Richardson? Like, yeah, fine.

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Speaker 1: My whole point is just be prepared to lose. If

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Speaker 1: the Bears beat the Commanders, Diard Bears fan, If the

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Speaker 1: Bears beat the Commanders, are they legit? In your opinion?

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Speaker 1: This game has my interest at an all time high

434
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Speaker 1: because of the constant comparisons between Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: If we beat the Commanders, there is a great chance

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Speaker 1: that we could be seven and two before Green Bay

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Speaker 1: in week eleven. What are your thoughts, So let's bring

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Speaker 1: up the old Chicago schedule, so they are currently on

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Speaker 1: a buy then they played at Washington. That would be

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Speaker 1: an excellent win. That would be by far of all

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Speaker 1: four of your wins Titans, Rams, Panthers, Jags considerably more

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Speaker 1: impactful in my opinion to judging your future of the season,

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Speaker 1: best win by far. Then you go to the Arizona

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Speaker 1: come out here to play the Cards, probably a win, Patriots,

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Speaker 1: probably a win. And then your schedule gets tough Packers,

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Speaker 1: Vikings at home, at Lions, at Niners at Minnesota, Lions,

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Speaker 1: Seahawks at Packers. So here's the key. If you can

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Speaker 1: get to seven and two or six and three. If

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Speaker 1: you get to seven and two, you're almost like, how

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Speaker 1: are you not gonna get minimum nine to eight? If

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Speaker 1: you get to six in three, you got a pretty

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Speaker 1: good shot to get to I would say nine and

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Speaker 1: eight's as well, because if you're six and three, you

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Speaker 1: got eight games left. All you'd have to do is

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Speaker 1: go three and five and you'd be nine and eight,

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Speaker 1: which would be which would be impressive, especially if you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see how it plays out over the next couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks, but you're probably gonna be an underdog in

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Speaker 1: a lot of those games with the Packers, with the Lions,

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Speaker 1: and with Minnesota. So part of taking a step as

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Speaker 1: a franchise, even if you lose a lot of those

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Speaker 1: games in the Niner game included if you're able to

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Speaker 1: beat the shit out of the teams you're supposed to

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Speaker 1: beat the shit out of and have an upset or

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Speaker 1: two down the stretch getting to nine and eight, think

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Speaker 1: how much better you'd feel about this team than the

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Speaker 1: situation last year, which was the fakest run I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I I think you should be

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Speaker 1: pretty excited about the future. I keep here hearing you

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Speaker 1: say the Raiders should have a fire sale for all

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Speaker 1: the blue chip players. I get sometimes it's best to

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Speaker 1: get as many picks as possible. But haven't we seen

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Speaker 1: in recent years teams pick a quarterback in the top

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Speaker 1: five and become a playoff team that year. The Texans

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Speaker 1: and the Commanders come to mind, Why can't Vegas do

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Speaker 1: the same? I don't feel like the cupboards are bare.

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Speaker 1: We still have a pass catcher, a star defensive end,

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Speaker 1: and a left tackle, along with some emerging offensive line pieces. Well,

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Speaker 1: if you think about it, what did the Let's use

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Speaker 1: the Commanders as an example. Think who they traded Montes Sweat.

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Speaker 1: They got a second round pick for Chase Young, they

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Speaker 1: got a third round pick for so They literally traded

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Speaker 1: those two guys last year the part of having a

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, and the Texans have Tamiko Ryans, who I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry is just dramatically better than your coach. So I

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Speaker 1: also think that how did they also the Texans get better? Well,

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Speaker 1: they hit on Nico Collins, who was already on the team,

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Speaker 1: in a later round draft pick, and they drafted Tank

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Speaker 1: Dell in the third round. So my point is that

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Speaker 1: if you can get more, I'm not just giving away

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Speaker 1: Crosby for a second round pick, but if the Lions

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Speaker 1: would give me two ones for Max Crosby, I drive

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Speaker 1: him to the airport. The left tackle thing, you can

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Speaker 1: convince me just keep Colton Miller. Okay, I'm not against that,

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Speaker 1: but like Max Crosby on this team, when the defense

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Speaker 1: is just hideous and going nowhere fast, what does it

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Speaker 1: do for you? The other thing is like how much

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Speaker 1: longer can Max just dominate? If you felt good about it,

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Speaker 1: like six or seven years? Okay, but the way he

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Speaker 1: plays already starting to get a little banged up. Do

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Speaker 1: you maximize now and just turn the page now? Listen.

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Speaker 1: I'll be the first to always argue when you trade

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Speaker 1: these guys, the whole point of a draft is to

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Speaker 1: land to Max Crosby. But you didn't have to get

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Speaker 1: the top five pick to land Max Crosby. What did

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Speaker 1: you get them the fifth round? Did you draft a

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Speaker 1: pass rusher in the top ten? Tyree Wilson from the

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Speaker 1: text sec Kid, how's that working out for you? So

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Speaker 1: it just sometimes having more, you know, bites at the

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Speaker 1: Apple is the way to do this. And again I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about premium picks. There's a difference between having a

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Speaker 1: fire sale like just giving away Amari Cooper for a

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Speaker 1: third round pick, like the Browns, just get some value,

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Speaker 1: move on. That's not what I'm talking about here. I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about if you can get a boatload of compensation.

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby, here's two ones, Cold Miller, here's a first

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Speaker 1: round pick. If you can do that type stuff, I

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Speaker 1: think one, you're just it's gross negligence if you're just

519
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Speaker 1: not immediately having a big time meeting in two. You know,

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Speaker 1: if they lose a couple more games, like could argue

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Speaker 1: it's just be the right move and then just start

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Speaker 1: from scratch. Now, the problem is Antonio Pierce, Like, is

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Speaker 1: he gonna be your coach for the next five years?

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Speaker 1: When you just say that out loud. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, been watching the pod for

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Speaker 1: a couple of years now. I came across this post

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Speaker 1: on Instagram and it got me thinking about how there

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Speaker 1: was no number one picks in the graphic. After looking

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Speaker 1: into the past number one overall picks and seeing teams

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Speaker 1: move down a couple spots, do you think more teams

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Speaker 1: may do this in the future of drafts with no

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Speaker 1: Locke generational talents like Caleb Williams or Trevor Lawrence. So basically,

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Speaker 1: this graphic is the best picks in each NFL draft,

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Speaker 1: and it starts with like twenty twenty four, which I

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Speaker 1: was I'm not even gonna read the Person twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: c J. Stroud twenty twenty two, Sauce Gardner twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: Pine Sewell twenty twenty, Justin Jefferson twenty nineteen, Max Crosby

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Lamar Jackson twenty seventeen, Patrick Mahomes, you guys

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Speaker 1: get where I'm going. Tyreek Hill, Stefan dis Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelce. I think part of trading down is easy

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Speaker 1: when you have a quarterback. So if I have a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that I like. It's easy to move back when

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Speaker 1: I don't have a quarterback that I like. I feel

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Speaker 1: my franchise is just kind of spinning in the wind

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Speaker 1: and we're not gaining any traction. We're not moving forward.

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Speaker 1: So part of trading up for a quarterback, even though

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Speaker 1: the risk is well established, at best, it's a coin flip,

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Speaker 1: and in recent memory it's the stats are actually much

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Speaker 1: lower than coin flips. But it doesn't it make sense

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Speaker 1: why all these people do it? And it's gonna happen again.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna trade up for Shadoor, people are gonna

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Speaker 1: trade up for Camps, just kind of the way the

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Speaker 1: business works. So I hear you. I think it's easy

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Speaker 1: to say once you look back, but at the time,

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, why don't I just trade back for

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Speaker 1: the next Aaron Donald or Justin Jefferson, or maybe I

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Speaker 1: trade up and I land Jaden Daniels, diired Hawks fan.

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Speaker 1: Like many other teams, right now, the Seahawks are stuck

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00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: in a dark place of being good, being too good

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Speaker 1: for a premium pick, but not good enough to truly

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Speaker 1: compete for Super Bowl. With the way the draft is

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Speaker 1: looking right now, I don't see any quarterbacks have that

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Speaker 1: elite arm talent that Schneider seems to cove it to

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Speaker 1: succeed Gino, who Schneider obviously is hesitant to commit to.

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00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: Hesitant Schneider ain't committing to him long term. But I

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Speaker 1: know what you mean. With the new coaching staff coming in,

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Speaker 1: what do you think a mid team like the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: should do to get out of this eight nine win

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Speaker 1: season range? Well, let's use an example of the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: who were a better version of you with Alex Smith.

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Speaker 1: How did they change their fortunes? They didn't have the

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick, they were going to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: so they were drafting. They weren't winning in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but they were drafting typically somewhere between nineteen and twenty four,

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Speaker 1: and they traded up twelve spots or ten spots to

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Speaker 1: get Patrick Mahomes and for a year he sat behind

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Speaker 1: Alex Smith. Couldn't you guys do something like that, find

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Speaker 1: a quarterback that these guys like you don't have to

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Speaker 1: trade up to one, just go from like twenty to ten,

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Speaker 1: or what if johns Shonnier like Sam Donald? Is Sam

581
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Speaker 1: Donald better than this Geno Smith? And the argument might

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Speaker 1: be no, too very close under the same umbrella. The

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Speaker 1: answer is is hard. It's really really hard. The only

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Speaker 1: way you make it out. The only way you make

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00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: it out has either become like an all time great

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Speaker 1: defense and where Gino can just have you be like

587
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: an eleven twelve win team, which is probably not gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: or upgraded quarterback. And I think the only way you

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Speaker 1: upgrade a quarterback is laying someone in the draft, And

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00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: obviously there's gotta be some luck to it, but he's

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Speaker 1: gonna like one of these quarterbacks sooner or later. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing is Ryan Grubb has success with Pennix,

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Speaker 1: who a couple of years ago people thought would be

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Speaker 1: like a not even a drafted player. A couple years

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Speaker 1: later he goes eighth overall. So maybe you you know,

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Speaker 1: part of having a great offensive coordinator. Now the problem

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00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: would be if he has success, he probably would get hired.

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Speaker 1: But it's like, why can't you find your brock party.

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00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: You're Dak Prescott, You're Russell Wilson. Again, let's face it,

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Speaker 1: how did Seattle get good. They hit on a bunch

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00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: of defensive guys who defense became elite, and they got

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00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: Russells in the third round, So I think I think

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00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: sometimes we overthink it with how difficult it is, like

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00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: there's luck involved. But yeah, uh, time to discuss revamping

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Speaker 1: the NFL penalty system. Automatic first downs are incredibly, incredibly punitive.

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00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: Defensive holding results in an auto first down, even on

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Speaker 1: fourth down. When the offense holds, the d has to

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Speaker 1: choose whether to accept the penalty and give them another

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Speaker 1: chance without losing it down. What the f are we

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Speaker 1: even doing here? Totally agree. I feel like this guy's

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Speaker 1: my spirit animal. The rules have become one sided that

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Speaker 1: I don't even respect great offensive performances. The table is

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Speaker 1: so slanted, by the way. The red line discussion after

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Speaker 1: Mike and Aaron gave me a thought, paint the red

615
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: lines on the field. If a quarterback goes past them,

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00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: the play is dead, but they can get hit unless

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Speaker 1: they slide or reach the side long. That would stop

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00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: the slimy crawling along the sideline looking for flax. They

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Speaker 1: should be a buffer. Listen, all this stuff is so true,

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Speaker 1: and these penalties are driving us all nuts. But the

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Speaker 1: reality of where we stand with the rules, with the game,

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00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: with the league office, it's not going to change so

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Speaker 1: we either stop watching it, which numbers would say more

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00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: people are watching than ever, or we just accept it

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Speaker 1: and be pissed off all the time, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of where I land. But it's just not going to change.

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Speaker 1: It's just not because the only thing the league cares about,

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Speaker 1: the only I'm not talking about like coaches or gms

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Speaker 1: or players. I'm talking about roj and as business people

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Speaker 1: money and they're about to sell I would bet in

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Speaker 1: the next couple of years a London package. There's a billy.

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Speaker 1: What if they sell to Sunday night games? What if

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00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: they sell to Monday night games? It ain't slowing down.

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Speaker 1: talk about more teams. I don't mind that. What's the

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Speaker 1: number one area in a house slash penthouse, the kitchen,

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Speaker 1: the living room, the master bedroom slash bathroom. What would

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Speaker 1: be the I think you're onto something there, So maybe

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Speaker 1: they're in the roped off VIP section other teams who

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Speaker 1: earned the spot in the penhouse. Yeah, I think I

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Speaker 1: like this guy, Tony. You're a smart man, Lions cutting

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Speaker 1: it up, hitting on girls who are in the elevator

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Speaker 1: on the way to the top floor. Let the room

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Speaker 1: be flexible. Uh. This would allow you to talk about

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Speaker 1: literally any team you want and have an opinion on,

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Speaker 1: and will allow you to tell stories and crack a

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Speaker 1: bunch of fucking jokes. I think we'll end on Tony.

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Speaker 1: I think he might have figured something out. Have a

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Speaker 1: great weekend. Talk to you guys Sunday night. The Volume