WEBVTT - Replay* Conversations About Hip Hop's Accountability

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? And welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sinners Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>load glasses Malone. So it's been crazy, right, all this

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<v Speaker 1>promo shit started, Nigga doing the promo run, making all

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<v Speaker 1>the magic happening. That's the it don't stop. So I

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<v Speaker 1>put out to cancel these nuts. Six weeks ago, I

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<v Speaker 1>went on a mad promo run to the East coast, right,

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant idiots, breakfast club, horrible decisions, expert opinion, dash radio stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>serious radio stuff. Shout out to Ron Mills, all my

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<v Speaker 1>good people over there, see what's up. But stopped in Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>Did the press up there? Promo up there? Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to my brother DJ ros Sheet and I come home

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<v Speaker 1>and when I get home, obviously I do my run.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of good solid brothers on the West.

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<v Speaker 1>That started all of these dope you know media platforms

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<v Speaker 1>back on fig the community, my boy Pun Trail, a

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<v Speaker 1>d mac Wip. They just created like this really dope

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<v Speaker 1>you know media kind of cipher and it's been unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Like right, that run has been crazy. The conversation has

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<v Speaker 1>been crazy. One of the main conversations is that's that

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's being stuck on is is Drake hip Hop? For

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years, I ran around just to learn what records

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<v Speaker 1>was about, just to learn what hip hop was about,

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<v Speaker 1>just to learn what marketing was about. I literally decided

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't gonna even make money in this business because

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I didn't do enough to deserve it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like and it already paid me millions of dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do enough to deserve it. So I committed

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<v Speaker 1>to it, almost like a nun or something. Because going

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<v Speaker 1>into like a church or you know how they pledged

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<v Speaker 1>their life to Catholicism, That's how I pledged my existence

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<v Speaker 1>to hip hop and understanding what was going on. And

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I'm compelled to speak on it at another level

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<v Speaker 1>because I literally sacrificed enough to have an opinion. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done enough work. I've done the work to have an opinion. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>how good I think my album is. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>the work itself. The reason I know my album is great, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I did the work. But then when you

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<v Speaker 1>listen to the album and you know enough, minds tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what it is, they confirm it. But I was confident,

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<v Speaker 1>just like a boxer and training camp because I did

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<v Speaker 1>all the hard work and training camp. I did all

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<v Speaker 1>the hard work way before you heard the music. But

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<v Speaker 1>it just made me have some interesting thoughts about hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop that was different. And I noticed it's a movement

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<v Speaker 1>of black people really blaming hip hop for everything right,

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<v Speaker 1>and these saying black people are some of the brothers

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<v Speaker 1>that argue with me about this particular topic. Shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to my nigga Jobs intellectually petty. Intellectually petty radio A podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>y'all go look it up for some of YouTube, really

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<v Speaker 1>intelligent brother from the Midwest from Detroit. And it made

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<v Speaker 1>me think, and I think we've talked about this before

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<v Speaker 1>with different people on those seilings that term accountability, What

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<v Speaker 1>is hip hop's accountability in the current status, like in

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<v Speaker 1>the current state of the ghettos across America? How much

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<v Speaker 1>is hip hop to blame? Jobs was saying to me.

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<v Speaker 1>He thought Sexy Rare with Satan, and I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this young twenty seven year old girl from Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Louis right, who obviously understands some marketing. Because even through

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<v Speaker 1>all of the the marketing itself and the funniness itself

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<v Speaker 1>of what's going on. Most women when they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be sexy, the first thing they want to do is

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<v Speaker 1>take off their glasses. This girl keeps her glasses on,

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<v Speaker 1>doing the most ratchet shit in the world, acting like

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<v Speaker 1>she's attempting to be sexy. I really think sexy Red

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<v Speaker 1>is like a marketing savant because this motherfucker ain't took

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<v Speaker 1>off her glasses. Wearing two pieces. You know, she could

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<v Speaker 1>get contacts. She won't take off her glasses. Daisy Dupes

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<v Speaker 1>splits ratchet, but she got her glasses on. It reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me of Ice Spice and that orphan anywig. Ice Spice

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<v Speaker 1>is like orphan anty with ass when she wear that wig.

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<v Speaker 1>Like their marketing savants. That whole generation under thirty, that generation,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's Alpha, but that whichever generation

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<v Speaker 1>it is, they're marketing savants. All these motherfucker's under thirty

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<v Speaker 1>understand how they want you to see them, and they

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<v Speaker 1>understand what you're gonna think about it. But back to

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<v Speaker 1>the point he was saying, he felt sexy Rere was

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<v Speaker 1>the satan, and I'm like, with all these Sam Smiths

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<v Speaker 1>and people doing crazy shit on these award shows endorsing

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<v Speaker 1>the devil. You thought a black lady, a black young

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<v Speaker 1>girl from fucking Saint Louis because she's a bit extra promiscuous,

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<v Speaker 1>is satan? Like she's satan. It's so it's not Generation Alpha,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the millennials or Generation Why. But I'm like, she's satan.

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<v Speaker 1>What is sexy Read really to blame for? At this point?

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<v Speaker 1>What is she really to blame for? No Siller's jail

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<v Speaker 1>flying solo today, Ain't no auto pilot, ain't no co pilots.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just me and y'all. So we're gonna pop this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is sexy Read really to blame for at

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<v Speaker 1>this point? Dog is sexy Read the first hood rat

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<v Speaker 1>girl in the communities? Is she inspiring women to be

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<v Speaker 1>hood rats? Or is she a reflection that there is

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<v Speaker 1>a promiscuous group of women that suffer from a level

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<v Speaker 1>of trauma that makes them feel like they have ownership

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<v Speaker 1>over certain things that you obviously are really rich and

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<v Speaker 1>deep that they feel they have ownership over. Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>feel they have to claim ownership over it because in

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<v Speaker 1>some of those situations, some of these people men molested

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<v Speaker 1>and went through hell, So now they're trying to claim

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<v Speaker 1>it to have some level of strength. But it's Sexy

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<v Speaker 1>Red really inspiring a generation of women to be hood racks.

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<v Speaker 1>Her biggest demographic is going to be middle class America,

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<v Speaker 1>white women you feel me, that are in college, white

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<v Speaker 1>women that live in the suburbs. Are is she gonna

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<v Speaker 1>inspire them to get pregnant? Are white women gonna line

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<v Speaker 1>up at the plant parenthood or at the clinic because

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<v Speaker 1>they got STDs? Like Sexy Red rap about? Like? Is

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<v Speaker 1>their clinics gonna be overfilled with motherfucking women getting abortion? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How much is hip hop really to blame? Like let's

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<v Speaker 1>be for real, like we didne got so far out

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<v Speaker 1>of the space of understand that systemic oppression is still

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<v Speaker 1>currently going on, Like and we'll find ways to figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out. We'll name it. If somebody get their ass

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<v Speaker 1>killed by a police and then the police get off,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see it be like, well that's different. We act

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<v Speaker 1>like one day we woke up and then the United

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<v Speaker 1>States of America decided, well, we not gonna go hard

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<v Speaker 1>on these niggas no more. So it must be these

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<v Speaker 1>niggas fat at this point that they are a bit

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<v Speaker 1>traumatized and react and develop confidence in even lower standards.

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<v Speaker 1>It's sexy red really to blame, Like, come on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like this shit is getting crazy. Look, you don't gotta

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<v Speaker 1>like it, bro, I get it. You don't gotta like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you have a daughter cause and you're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want my daughter to be sexy red. Bro, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're in her life, she's not gonna be sexy red.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust me, if you, as a father, are in her life,

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<v Speaker 1>she is not gonna be sexy red. She is not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be sexy red. Sexy reds issues are completely different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's obviously it's obvious that girl been through a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of shit, But the fact that we're blaming an artist

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<v Speaker 1>painting a picture of something that exists in our communities

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<v Speaker 1>and we like, well, she's gonna tell everybody else they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know hood rats existed. I saw people talking about

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<v Speaker 1>are we celebrating sexy red or sexy red celebrating that

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<v Speaker 1>promiscuous culture that people feel like she's a part of.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, what if her experiences is only fucking

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<v Speaker 1>with crazy niggas because she live in the ghetto. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want people to know it's crazy because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>growing up and people like see the lords Tucker blaming

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop for what's going on in the ghetto, not

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<v Speaker 1>the ghetto for what's going on in hip hop, because

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<v Speaker 1>that would be too much like right. Instead, she's blaming

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop for what's going on in the ghetto. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I say she was blaming hip hop for what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the ghetto. She didn't blame what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the ghetto on hip hop. I mean, excuse me.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't blame what's going on in hip hop on

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<v Speaker 1>the ghetto. It was the other way around. The art

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<v Speaker 1>was inspiring the community. So you got all of these grown,

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<v Speaker 1>middle aged men acting like Sexy Red is some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of unique character or her characters should be suppressed, even

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<v Speaker 1>though most of y'all have pretty much dealt with a

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<v Speaker 1>sexy Red, especially if you grew up where we grew

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<v Speaker 1>up at. Maybe your baby mama is a sexy Red.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you're the reason that sexy Red became sexy Red.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't like you niggas as waking up trying to

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<v Speaker 1>wipe these women. You're trying to get some pussy. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're trying to get some pussy, and lord knows

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<v Speaker 1>how hell bent we beat on trying to get some pussy,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll lie, we'll do whatever it takes, We'll break a

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<v Speaker 1>woman's spirit just to get some pussy. And then when

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<v Speaker 1>they mutate into a sexy Red, we'll be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happened. And then we'll get older

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<v Speaker 1>and really disassociate ourselves from those circumstances. And again, I say,

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<v Speaker 1>if sexy Red is that influential, then why aren't these

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<v Speaker 1>white women having the same exact problem. Why the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>supporter of hip hop is very much Middle American white people.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why traditionally are they not changing? And then if

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<v Speaker 1>you notice they're not changing, you're like, well, they're different.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they have this and that. You know, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's affecting the ghetto or is the ghetto affecting the

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<v Speaker 1>cheese a representation of it? This shit just sometimes is

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<v Speaker 1>getting crazy, Like we have literally decided white people are

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<v Speaker 1>not to blame or we said we blame them enough,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they had motherfuckers and slave for two three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years, four hundred years, We like, oh well this

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years was enough to escape it. All I hear

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<v Speaker 1>is hip hop's negative influence. All blame hip hop? Hip hop?

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<v Speaker 1>Did this not the ghetto? Is inspiring hip hop. Hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop is inspiring the ghetto. Well, let's talk about what

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<v Speaker 1>the ghetto has done. Let's talk about ice Cube. Does

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<v Speaker 1>anybody truly give ice Cube credit for creating three of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest comics in the last I don't know thirty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Tucker came from ice Cube, Mike Epps came from

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<v Speaker 1>ice Cube, Cat Williams came from ice Cube. Everybody to

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Tucker made these big one hundred two, three four

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred blockbuster million dollar films, three four five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dollars meal four five hundred million dollar films, and all

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<v Speaker 1>that that came from some nigga in hip hop, some

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<v Speaker 1>nigga that grew up in one eleven South Central one

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<v Speaker 1>eleven neighborhood. Crip created three of the ten biggest comics

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<v Speaker 1>in the last thirty years. Hip hop did that. Hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop did that. You don't have rush Hour without fucking

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<v Speaker 1>ice Cube. You don't have a Rush Hour. So you

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't have Jackie Chan at this level without ice Cube.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Chris Tucker is the starter film, right, he's selling

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<v Speaker 1>a film on a mainstream level. You don't have none

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<v Speaker 1>of them rush Hours. So about I don't know a

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars worth a film franchise. You owe that to

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<v Speaker 1>hip hop because some nigga who said fuck the police

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<v Speaker 1>in eighty eight created a platform and motherfucking developed one

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest and most important film stars in the

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<v Speaker 1>last motherfucking thirty years. You owe hip hop for that?

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<v Speaker 1>How about? What is that a trade off of sexy read?

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<v Speaker 1>You have Chris Tucker, Mike Epps. I can't go down

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<v Speaker 1>to listen ship Mike Epps has contributed to that matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Cat Williams, we all know how fucking unbelievable he is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Cat Williams. Fucking Cat Williams dog. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give hip hop credit for that? Probably not, Probably

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<v Speaker 1>fucking not. What about Terry Crews. Y'all love Terry Crews, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's y'all, motherfucking mad old Terry Crews. He was in

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<v Speaker 1>training day, he was a backup person. Friday at the

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<v Speaker 1>next was his moment to shine. You owe that to

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<v Speaker 1>ice Q. You owe that to hip hop? You owe

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<v Speaker 1>that to hip hop? Can hip hop get a thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>You give it all the blame, all the fucking blame

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<v Speaker 1>is hip hop. But where is all the fucking credit.

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<v Speaker 1>A guy on Twitter today asked me about Snoop Dogg.

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<v Speaker 1>He said crips didn't exist in the Midwest until Snoop

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<v Speaker 1>Dogg came out. Not the drug game where everybody from

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles was going to these towns and setting up shot. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>the rap music, hip hop. And I do agree that

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<v Speaker 1>Snoop reinforced the title crypts. He made people that was

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<v Speaker 1>the first cryp. Most people really felt like they knew.

0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.280
<v Speaker 1>He's by far the most popular cryp of all time.

0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.240
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty much it's fair to say he's the greatest

0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:38.080
<v Speaker 1>cryp of all time. But he also defined it in

0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:43.040
<v Speaker 1>his way. So while you're looking at Rocket from Colors

0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:46.679
<v Speaker 1>and like, this is what crypts are about, which in

0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the movie Colors, maybe Rocket, you know, shout out to

0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:54.479
<v Speaker 1>Don Cheto probably the greatest Black actor you know ever

0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:58.240
<v Speaker 1>as far as just pure skills. I mean, I don't

0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.560
<v Speaker 1>think he have the films of Denzel Washington or like

0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:05.119
<v Speaker 1>my favorite actor, you know, Samuel Jackson, but just pure

0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:10.479
<v Speaker 1>pound for pound awesome acting. Don cheeoh was probably the

0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:13.920
<v Speaker 1>best one as far as black actors go. Maybe him

0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:18.480
<v Speaker 1>a Forest Whitaker, but you know what I'm saying it's

0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:23.119
<v Speaker 1>like Snoop is he didn't let Colors tell you what

0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.800
<v Speaker 1>cripping was about. So while you were looking at the

0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.639
<v Speaker 1>film Colors or the film dough Boy, you know, excuse

0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:33.000
<v Speaker 1>me boys in the Hood with dough Boy, or the

0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Wren's take character, Oh Dog, you mess Snoop and Snoop

0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:41.760
<v Speaker 1>shows you how diverse a cryp can be, because that's

0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:44.960
<v Speaker 1>how most crips are. Just like Snoop. Some have jobs,

0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:48.760
<v Speaker 1>some go to school, some most raised their family, most

0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:56.600
<v Speaker 1>get married, most of them are productive members in society. Eventually,

0:19:57.240 --> 0:19:59.560
<v Speaker 1>they may start off in these ghettos, having to earn

0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.879
<v Speaker 1>how they earn, But just like my older homie Pluck,

0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.720
<v Speaker 1>they'll figure out their way. They'll be owning trucks and

0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.199
<v Speaker 1>driving trucks, or like my older homie Moon, they'll be

0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:14.320
<v Speaker 1>having tow trucks and running motorcycle clubs and monetizing social lifestyles.

0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Or they'll be like my ogi homie Shady, who can

0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:24.280
<v Speaker 1>pull apart of Harley and put it back together, engine, frame, wheels, everything,

0:20:24.760 --> 0:20:27.320
<v Speaker 1>or like my homeboy Boom, my older homie Boo can

0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.760
<v Speaker 1>put together cars and he knows how to paint them

0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:34.639
<v Speaker 1>and bring cars back to life after they've been salvaged.

0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Just because Hollywood tried to tell you what crips was,

0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.119
<v Speaker 1>you ran to everybody else like, this is what crips was.

0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:52.600
<v Speaker 1>And then you met Snoop. It Snoop showed you everything

0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 1>cribs could be. It made the whole world fall in

0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:04.000
<v Speaker 1>love with crips. That's what hip hop does. Hip hop

0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:08.880
<v Speaker 1>shows you how the ghetto party, how the ghetto parties.

0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:14.080
<v Speaker 1>That's where hip hop started at as far as the music,

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:19.360
<v Speaker 1>it started as a party. When we celebrated the fiftieth year.

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.560
<v Speaker 1>The address they put on that flyer fifteen to twenty

0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:27.280
<v Speaker 1>segwitch that project. You were going to a party. It

0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:32.400
<v Speaker 1>was a hip hop. My dad and the generation they

0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:36.119
<v Speaker 1>called a party a hop and you know what hip is.

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Hip is cool. It was the way the ghetto party.

0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:48.400
<v Speaker 1>We are the cool kids. The way we write right,

0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that's tagging. The way we dance, that's breaking. The way

0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.320
<v Speaker 1>we take the music and make our own thing right,

0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that's a breakbeat. And then we can't sing. We wasn't

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:07.360
<v Speaker 1>professional trained singers, So guess what we rap? Shout out

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:17.960
<v Speaker 1>to Joe Text, shout out to the watch poets. DJ's

0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:23.160
<v Speaker 1>existed before hip hop. They did. They existed before hip hop.

0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 1>This goal had DJ's, radio had DJ's, but they didn't

0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:31.600
<v Speaker 1>do it the way we did it. They didn't do

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:35.639
<v Speaker 1>it the way the cool kids did it. So it

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.200
<v Speaker 1>looks like we created all of this stuff because we're

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:42.040
<v Speaker 1>so fucking cool in these ghettos that when we start

0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:46.360
<v Speaker 1>doing stuff, everybody does stuff like it. But you know what,

0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>it's not the ghetto that does stuff like it, it's

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Middle America that does stuff like it. So I'm almost

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:59.560
<v Speaker 1>starting to believe Middle America is not as mad at

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:06.440
<v Speaker 1>hip hop as the people that are black people. It's

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 1>almost like it's more ridicule from middle class and wealthy

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:19.320
<v Speaker 1>black people or successful black people on poor people. I

0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:22.639
<v Speaker 1>don't even think they really believe in systemic oppression because

0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 1>they're successful. I think this is a greater problem. I

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:37.760
<v Speaker 1>genuinely think this is a greater problem. I think this

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>is a greater problem. I've heard people tell me hip hop, oh,

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>it was created to solve problems. And then I had

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:49.760
<v Speaker 1>great conversations with Crazy Legs and other founding fathers, and

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 1>they was like, man, we were stick of kids. They

0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 1>were telling me they were criminals. The black Spades are

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.399
<v Speaker 1>pretty much the founder of hip hop. That's a gang

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:09.840
<v Speaker 1>in the un So when people blame Snoop Dogg, like, oh, well,

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, crips didn't exist in the Midwest before Snoop Dogg.

0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Just because you retitled gangs. Gangs existed in the Midwest

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:24.720
<v Speaker 1>before Snoop Dogg. Violence existed in the Midwest before Snoop Dogg.

0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:34.560
<v Speaker 1>All of these things existed. But because you put the

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 1>new name Crips on there, like, the violence is magnified. Oh,

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:50.239
<v Speaker 1>the violence has to be crazier. I just don't get it.

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I really don't get it. Forty years ago, we understood

0:24:55.760 --> 0:25:02.720
<v Speaker 1>systemic oppression, you know, we understood poverty, like that type

0:25:02.760 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>of economic hardship was responsible for the way people acted

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 1>in the ghetto. The fashion is the fashion because people

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>were deprived of economics, and six pair of Dickys cost

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars, seven pair of checks of chuck all start.

0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:28.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, Converse cost fifty dollars. T shirts were undershirts.

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:32.639
<v Speaker 1>They were cheap. So people mom didn't have money, but

0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>they wanted to make sure their kids had new clothes,

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 1>so they went down to HP Huntington Park and bought

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:44.679
<v Speaker 1>them new clothes. You get six pair of pants for

0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:50.199
<v Speaker 1>fifty dollars, six pair of shoes for fifty dollars, different

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:53.679
<v Speaker 1>colored shirts for fifty dollars, and you have enough for

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>a whole school year. So your mentality is, we should

0:25:56.920 --> 0:26:03.560
<v Speaker 1>have been sad because our circumstances. We should have been sad.

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>We shouldn't find a sense of pride. That's what hip

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 1>hop is. It's that pride of no matter how bad

0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>our circumstances are, we still find pride to exist. We

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>still make it look good. We're gonna put big crease,

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a big crease, and those six pans for fifty dollars,

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna wear it with pride, and we're gonna wear

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it so fucking awesome that everybody else who could afford

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:35.960
<v Speaker 1>better wants to wear them. That's what hip hop is.

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>You know what else is like that? Soul food? Soul

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.119
<v Speaker 1>food is just like that. It was the slops that

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the master threw back there, the worst of the vegetables,

0:26:51.160 --> 0:26:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the worst of everything we cooked. That shit so fired

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>that they start coming back to the back house trying

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>to eat. Now they have gourmet restaurants selling soul food,

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>slave food, not black food. Slave food. Hip hop is

0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 1>slave food. It's when you find the sense of pride

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:26.280
<v Speaker 1>no matter the circumstance, and you put that pride on

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:31.120
<v Speaker 1>so motherfucking thick cuz that the world be like, damn,

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that shit look nice. It's like an ugly bitch with

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 1>too much confidence. The ugliest woman could get the best

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>man if she but makes her if she believes in herself,

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>that convinces him that she thinks she the shit. You

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>a fool of motherfucker. I knew a girl that was

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.679
<v Speaker 1>like that to me. This motherfucker was ugly, but she

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>acted like she was fine and had me kind of

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>have fast convinced. I started to want to take the

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 1>bitch out to get my thoughts together. That's what hip

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>hop is. It's finding a sense of pride no matter

0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>the circumstances you are put in. Yeah, you can't learn.

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>They don't got no band programs. They took all the

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>band programs away. Well, guess what, I'm gonna take the

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>break of this record the drum loop, and I'm gonna

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>loop this motherfucker over and over again. Then I don't

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>know how to sing, but I know how to put

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 1>my thoughts together and make the motherfuckers rhyme. They didn't

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.199
<v Speaker 1>give me no professional dance lesson. But I know what

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 1>this beat is telling me. I see all these breaks,

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>so let me break just like this motherfucking beat. Yeah,

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the education programs wasn't that great, showing us how to write,

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>and the cursive program and all that was and shit,

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:56.240
<v Speaker 1>But I know how to make this art look motherfucking nice.

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Hip hop is about taking whatever your circumstances are and

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>making it work and making it sexy, putting it on

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>with pride, and you will have motherfuckers that could afford

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>better being a part of it, just because you carry

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 1>it with such pride. And that's your fear for a

0:29:19.880 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 1>sexy read her trauma, you know, niggas using her whatever

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>happened to her in her life that made her feel

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 1>like this ain't valuable, she still created a sense of value,

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>and no matter her circumstances, she walk around pride being

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>a motherfucker she is. That's what she's supposed to do.

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>That's what she's supposed to do. She'll get exposed to

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 1>more and everything else to change in her life, but

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>she supposed to be proud of the motherfucker she is.

0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 1>And you motherfuckers want her to walk around with her

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>head down. That's why I hate you, motherfuckers. Y'all jealous

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 1>of that sister, because she walk around with her fucking

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>head up. She comes from one of the poorest places

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>in this fucking country. She then made it out. Whatever

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>her circumstances is, whatever promission, whatever promiscuous lifestyle she did

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 1>is she didn't put together enough words and got some

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>dope beats and put her bread together. And she's so

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 1>proud of herself, and she proud of the motherfucker she is.

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>And y'all made h she she's showing she's she's doing

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 1>too much. She's talking about real life shit, shit that

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 1>really happens. And you so worried about your daughter hearing

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>that bitch, Get in your daughter life and be her

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>fucking parent. Be your parent, Be your parent. You won't

0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>have nothing to worry about. You worried about your son

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>hearing Snoop dogg Rap. You think he's gonna run to

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>the nearest crip neighborhood. Your son her Snoop, and he

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 1>didn't live in a cryp neighborhood. Most likely he not

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna run to the nearest neighborhood to be a fucking crypt.

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 1>But rest is sure, Snoop, don't got nothing to do

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.680
<v Speaker 1>with glasses. Look being a crypt because I grew up

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>in cryp neighborhoods. That's why I'm a crip, because I'm

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>from there. And if I'm wrong, then white people would

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>have crips in their neighborhood. They'd be all crips and

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>they'd be killing each other. The murder raider be crazy.

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 1>But you can't blame the same ghetto that's spawning this

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 1>lifestyle and then these niggas representing it as these niggas

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the problem. That's just a fucking intellectually lazy argument, and

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to face what's going on. It's like

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>blaming the motherfucking cough, not the virus, for why you sick.

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Imagine blaming the cough, not the virus, for why you sick.

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>When you cough, when you sneeze, it's your body relieving pressure.

0:32:03.280 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>It's pressure building on inside. And that shit, that cough,

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:09.960
<v Speaker 1>that sneeze, all that shit your nose running is your

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>body relieving fucking pressure. And instead of trying to find

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 1>a cure for the virus, y'all spending time complaining and

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to make people suppress the symptoms. That shit didn't

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:33.080
<v Speaker 1>starting nobody body first, that shit started outside. It ain't

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>like one motherfucker mutator of flu, and then now it's

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>spread it to everybody. No motherfucking the flu existed and

0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>people got motherfucking infected by the flu. We don't want

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>to do the work. We don't want to do the

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>hard work. We want to take the easy routes out

0:32:57.080 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the easy routes. Oh, let's blame sexy read for what's

0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 1>going on. Now, let's go back to the independent Woman's

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Right movement where women mistake what what the fucking point was,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 1>which was to get equal pay. Now they think they equal.

0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>We don't want to never do the hard work, and

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>we always want to blame black people. It's always black people. Fuck. Oh,

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>it's black people. Fuck. It don't matter what happened. We could,

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 1>we could suffer three four hundred years of racism. It's

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>black people far for that. It's black people for it's

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>black people for It's just get crazier and crazier. I

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know what the fuck we really be talking about.

0:33:55.360 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>So answer me this. If you genuinely believe that rap

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:12.399
<v Speaker 1>music has this kind of influence. Is Little NASA's gonna

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>make people gay as little Now? Is your son gonna

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>see Little nas X and think I want to suck

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>a dick? Do you think that? Like? How far does

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 1>this go? Is your son gonna see Drake and go

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 1>to his nearest synagogue and so he can have a

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 1>bar mitzvak? Is your son gonna see Kanye West and decide, Okay,

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:58.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I want to get my own shoe

0:34:58.400 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>with Adidas, and I'm gonna to go to art school

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and figure out, Like, why is it we always focus

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 1>on what's what we think we don't like about the ghetto.

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>What about the things we do like about the ghetto?

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I guess y'all don't like it about

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<v Speaker 1>the ghetto. I don't quite know no more. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to think I knew, I really thought I had an idea,

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<v Speaker 1>But y'all motherfuckers confusing the fuck out of me. Every

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<v Speaker 1>fucking day. It's always some new shit with y'all. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking to no Ceilings listeners. I'm not talking

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<v Speaker 1>to no Ceilings listeners. I'm talking to all these motherfuckers

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<v Speaker 1>who don't listen to No Ceilings Because if you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to no ceilings. I know your motherfucking mind is wide open,

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<v Speaker 1>wide open, because the shit that I be reading, the

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<v Speaker 1>shit I learned about, all the different materials I read

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible and talk about it like it's a doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Seus's book. So you gotta have an open mind to

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<v Speaker 1>be a fan of this motherfucking podcast, because I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>really pick it up. I'm really gonna pick it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pick up every book, and I'm gonna read

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<v Speaker 1>as much as possible. I'm gonna approach everything I'm gonna read, think,

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<v Speaker 1>talk to smarter people about it, talk to people who

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<v Speaker 1>don't know much about it, and really put it together.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just at a disgusted place that we keep really

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<v Speaker 1>trying to blame hip hop for the science, systemic oppression,

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<v Speaker 1>lack of opportunity, you know what I mean, enforce poverty

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been dealing with forever. But now that's over.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess gentrification is not really happening. There are tons

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<v Speaker 1>of great jobs in the community, all these things, just

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<v Speaker 1>tons of great jobs in the ghett we just don't

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<v Speaker 1>want them. That must be what it is, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing it could be. That's the only motherfucking thing

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<v Speaker 1>it could be. None of this other shit don't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think we got to a weird place when

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<v Speaker 1>we could take we could blame this twenty five, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six year old girl from Saint Louis and treat her

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<v Speaker 1>like she's the Antichrist. Look, you don't gotta like her records,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even gotta like her as a talent, but

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up pitchforks and sit around as but fuck

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter and condemn some motherfucking body because this little

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<v Speaker 1>goofy looking little kid, this little goofy young lady, represents

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<v Speaker 1>nothing special. She is not thinking. She's not the coming

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<v Speaker 1>of an end. The end is not near because Sexy

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<v Speaker 1>Red has a rap song describing the fucking obvious. A

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<v Speaker 1>pink vagina and a brown ain't no hole that set

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<v Speaker 1>you off? That set you off? It's this much outrage

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<v Speaker 1>over a girl talking about her vagina is pink and

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<v Speaker 1>her ain'tal hole is brown. This is what's setting y'all off.

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<v Speaker 1>Y'all motherfuckers is crazy. I'm either y'all crazy or I'm

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<v Speaker 1>crazy one or the other. And I know y'all be

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<v Speaker 1>wanting me to think it's me but I'm the only

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucking in the room that's sober. I'm the only motherfucker

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<v Speaker 1>in the room that's not running from a problem. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not running to that. I'm not running from a problem

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<v Speaker 1>getting drunk, I'm not getting high. I face every problem.

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<v Speaker 1>If a nigga got a problem, I pull up in

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<v Speaker 1>front of him. Blaming Sexy Red is like smoking crack

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about the conditions of the ghetto or what's

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<v Speaker 1>up with your body? Blaming sexy Red like sexy Red

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<v Speaker 1>been out eight nine months? Max, y'all, motherfucker's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be crazy. Man, y'all, motherfucker's got to be stone cold crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>How many more things can we really blame the art for?

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<v Speaker 1>How many more things? Bro? How much more accountable do

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<v Speaker 1>you really want hip hop to be for reflecting current

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<v Speaker 1>conditions in the ghetto? Cuz that's all I'm asking answer

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<v Speaker 1>me that good looking out for tuning into the Note

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