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Speaker 1: Hey, they're Faneritos and welcome to part two of our

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Speaker 1: interview with Ernie Hudson. After fifty years of being in

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Speaker 1: the business and still going strong, Ernie's stories have us

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Speaker 1: completely captivated. So whether you love him from Ghostbusters, Full House,

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Speaker 1: Grace and Frankie and beyond, you don't want to miss

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Speaker 1: this conversation, So please welcome back to the podcast, Ernie.

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Speaker 2: You learn about yourself, You learn about about this thing

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Speaker 2: that I do. And the learning can be instant because

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Speaker 2: the audience will they'll just let you know and not

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Speaker 2: necessarily they will boo you.

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Speaker 3: But you can feel, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I mean, You can hear, you're ear in spiritual touch

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Speaker 2: with this thing, and you know it forces you to

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Speaker 2: reach higher, maybe not so high, maybe you need to

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Speaker 2: tone you know what I mean. Yeah, correct, it's self correct.

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Speaker 2: Whereas on you know, in TV and film, a lot

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Speaker 2: of times, you know, we'll go through eight, ten, twenty

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Speaker 2: takes right until something kind of makes sense and then

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Speaker 2: we move on and they piece it all together. But

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Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily reflect the learning the lessons that it's

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Speaker 2: it's it's the outcome of a lot of people's input

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Speaker 2: as opposed to your own personal.

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Speaker 4: Expidence right right, and theater is walking the tightrope with

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Speaker 4: no net, and film and TV is like, you know,

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Speaker 4: you got the training net right under you and you

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Speaker 4: can get right back. If you're attached to wires, it's

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Speaker 4: going to be okay. It feels a little scary, but

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Speaker 4: you're fine. But yeah, theater is like, yes, here we go.

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Speaker 4: But the flip and there's it's so exciting. I love

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Speaker 4: that part of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that part.

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Speaker 2: If it's a good production, and if it's bad, it

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Speaker 2: can be, it can be. You know, you were definitely

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Speaker 2: in it, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, we have to get to full house because

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Speaker 1: the Sands are dying to hear about it. Have you

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Speaker 1: seen that episode since it was on the errand just

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Speaker 1: see it.

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Speaker 2: Before we talked, because it was so long ago and

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it in a long long time, and

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Speaker 2: so my memories are, you know, I'd love to see

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Speaker 2: it again because I remember I was I was a boxer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: obviously I remember that part.

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Speaker 1: You were a boxer who discovers that his wife has

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Speaker 1: left in the mental Tanner is the one that tells

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Speaker 1: you yes, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, And I remember the girl who played my

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Speaker 2: wife who was with Philip Michael Thomas, who was on

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Speaker 2: Miami Vice. They were a couple, but I really liked

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Speaker 2: her as an actress. I can't remember her name now,

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Speaker 2: which is embarrassing, but yeah, it was i'd love. Of course,

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Speaker 2: I was a fan of the show, so yeah, to

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Speaker 2: to work on the show.

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Speaker 4: It was early. It was definitely early in our in

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Speaker 4: our shows fun. I mean, you know, we started doing

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Speaker 5: Watched the show.

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Speaker 4: We did the show, and then it was like, okay,

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Speaker 4: you know, as a kid, I was like, I don't

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Speaker 4: like I really don't want to watch myself. Until now

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Speaker 4: I'm old enough that I'm like, oh.

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Speaker 5: This is hilarious. Well, we started.

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Speaker 4: Watching it and like going back and like she said,

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Speaker 4: seeing all the the different talent, the different guest.

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Speaker 5: Stars we had, but also like just the.

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Speaker 4: Progression of how you shot a television show, of how

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Speaker 4: you know, like so many things throughout throughout the experience,

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Speaker 4: and really those first episodes are so iconic and and yeah,

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Speaker 4: like your particular episode, we hear about it all the time,

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Speaker 4: like is just really one that sticks with people?

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Speaker 2: Oh that's that's what's wonderful to hear because you know,

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Speaker 2: that's that's good to hear because I, yeah, yeah, we

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Speaker 3: You hope you're.

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Speaker 2: Presenting and you hope that people are you know, watching

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Speaker 3: But also always to support the main cast.

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Speaker 2: So coming in as a guest star, you're really there

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Speaker 3: So that's nice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh no, you were.

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Speaker 4: You were hilarious as a sandman who like you're like

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Speaker 4: It's great, Like it was a really fun sort of

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you really had a lot of emotional beats

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Speaker 1: to hit, Like you aren't just like the boxer that's

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Speaker 1: getting revved up for the match, Like no, you have

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just so bad. It's all bad for the

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I got to see it. Now.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember working with Bob Saggott. You know, he's

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Speaker 2: And he's and yeah, no, I love Bob. I'm not

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Speaker 2: I do. I mean, I've always admired his work. I

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Speaker 2: admire him, and he's a friend. You know, it's in

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Speaker 2: the way that we are friends in Hollywood seems like,

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Speaker 2: oh it's god's been so long. We're always always planning

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Speaker 2: to get together with somebody. Never works out. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: just you know. But but the whole the show was

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Speaker 2: really just a wonderful you know, chemistry of people coming together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't always happening.

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Speaker 2: I've done a lot of shows, had a few that

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Speaker 2: I've never had one that last as long as as

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Speaker 2: you guys. But but yeah, no, he was he was

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Speaker 5: Yes, he was kind of Yeah, he was the head

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Speaker 2: The guy you know show what he started doing his

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, I'm shocked.

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Speaker 1: But oh yes, flies in the face of Danny Tanner. Yes,

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Speaker 4: Now, speaking of shows, I know that you have been doing.

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Speaker 4: You just started a new show, Boston Blue, last last

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Speaker 5: Tell us about that? What is where can people find that?

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Speaker 5: What is it? Who are you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It's well, it's called Boston Blue. It's spin off of.

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Speaker 5: Blue Bloods show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Donny Wahlberg who was on.

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Speaker 3: Blue Bloods.

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Speaker 2: His son joins the Boston Police Department and he there's

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Speaker 2: an awful thing that happens. So Donny's character goes to

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Speaker 2: Boston Police Department. And uh, I play which is sem

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Speaker 2: my surprise, I'm the grandfather. Some of my mind I'm

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Speaker 2: thinking I'm the dad, but I'm the grandfather. We said

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Speaker 2: she's my daughter who's the DA and she married this

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Speaker 5: Anyway, so the drama, a lot of drama.

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Speaker 2: Police superintendent and the daughter that she had is now

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Speaker 2: And then my grandson is a rookie, so they're all

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Speaker 2: then you also get the personal stuff, the family, the

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Speaker 2: Shabbats that we've kind of come so yeah, it's it's a.

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Speaker 2: And then I do a show that I've been doing

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Speaker 2: for when we just finished our sixth season called The

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Speaker 2: Family Business on BT was and that's really has been

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Speaker 2: But this Boston Blue is really, it's really I love it.

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Speaker 2: It's about family. I love the character. I grew up

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Speaker 2: with a grandmother who she envisioned, wanted me to be

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Speaker 2: But I think I became an actor because I watched

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Speaker 2: all these ministers perform. Yeah, but so now, finally, after

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Speaker 3: I think she would have been very proud, if not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not really, but you play one on TV. So

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Speaker 4: on TV, did your kids ever show interest in like acting?

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Speaker 4: I mean that's the question we always get to, like,

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Speaker 5: But did they were? They like, nah, we're good. You

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, my oldest son he did for a

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Speaker 2: while and I think it was very good. But he

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Speaker 2: married a young lady who you know when you know

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Speaker 2: you go, it's going to be very hard. My wife,

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Speaker 2: she understands the business. We've been together. April will be

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Speaker 2: together fifty years. Oh my gosh, he understands. You know,

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Speaker 2: so but he did. He did a number of films

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Speaker 2: He was on OS.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that, And so.

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Speaker 2: He was played one of the characters one season on OZ.

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Speaker 2: And he still produces from time to time. But he

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Speaker 2: is in He works for a large growing company. He's

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Speaker 2: vice president of training and so he does so there's

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Speaker 2: a world. But he also does he loves the gym.

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Speaker 2: I never quite understood that because I don't.

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Speaker 5: But uh wait, hold on, you don't love the gym, sir.

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Speaker 5: We've seen pictures.

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Speaker 4: Well, how does you just naturally you just wake up

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Speaker 4: like this like Beyonce style, or like are.

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Speaker 5: You is it? Is it?

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Speaker 3: Ai?

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Speaker 5: What is it? Because you look buff as hell in

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Speaker 5: some of those pictures.

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Speaker 3: Oh well, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I would well, thank you so much, you know, but

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Speaker 2: like you guys, it's kind of and also, like we

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Speaker 2: got into a lot of things. In fact, that was

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Speaker 1: What a cool story. That's so cool.

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Speaker 5: And uh, and I just am.

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Speaker 4: Always excited to see other artists like that because it's

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for inviting me. I just really

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Speaker 6: Ernie so great, Thank you, thank you. Ernie Bye a

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Speaker 1: To earth like I, Yeah, you never know what you're

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Speaker 4: But I mean and one that's had such an illustrious career.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you everybody for joining us. That wraps up

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Speaker 4: But yeah, we will see you guys next time. Because

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Speaker 4: the world is small, but the house is full of slangmers, sliders, Ember, Slimmer,

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Speaker 4: the Little Green Slimers, Slimmer everywhere.

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 4: He should probably be remembered for something like like tie tax.

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Speaker 5: Perfect