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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place

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Speaker 1: your bets. So this meet Joey P Joe Piezafia, and

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Speaker 1: today we're going to take a look at some individual

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Speaker 1: player props for the season, because preseason thankfully has come

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Speaker 1: to a close and all these players that we like

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Speaker 1: these numbers on, now they're all ready to actually.

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Speaker 2: Start the season.

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Speaker 1: No major injuries to speak of. Knock on Wood. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how he got that lucky this year, but somehow,

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Speaker 1: at least for now, I know I've probably jinxed it

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Speaker 1: by even saying it, but it looks like we've avoided

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Speaker 1: some major injuries which were so used to I feel

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Speaker 1: like every single preseason, whether it be in fantasy or

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Speaker 1: with ferociousness. In case you missed it, last week, Fitze

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Speaker 1: and I sent around and talked about all the individual

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Speaker 1: player awards, and now we're going to talk about some

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Speaker 1: individual player props for the season.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Rushing totals, receiving totals, passing totals, and where you should

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Speaker 1: put your money. And let me bring in the other

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Speaker 1: boy in blue. If you're watching in the YouTube channel. No,

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Speaker 1: we did not coordinate, but you know it's the baby

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Speaker 1: Blue Monday, and Pat, if it's Morris is joining me

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Speaker 2: And Pat, I don't know about you, but you.

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Speaker 1: Know, it's preseason to me is like that ultimate tease

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Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, look football's back, but not really,

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Speaker 1: it's not really back, and it's not the players you

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Speaker 1: really care about. But now the preseason's over. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about you that countdowns, but Gun and I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, same here, Joe.

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Speaker 4: You know, big day coming up with the roster cuts

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Speaker 4: on Tuesday, and you know, from that point on, it

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Speaker 4: like you said, we didn't get any major injuries in

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Speaker 4: the preseason. A few minor ones, of course, but you know,

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Speaker 4: nothing season shattering for anyone, which is good, you know,

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Speaker 4: and hopefully the early weeks of the actual regular season

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Speaker 2: All right, FITZI, let's join the.

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Speaker 1: Conversation for a second here, and let's talk about some

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Speaker 1: of these rushing totals. And I selected some guys that

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Speaker 1: I think these numbers are very clear. I think most

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Speaker 1: And this is where your knowledge is a fantasy analyst

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Speaker 1: I want to start with David Montgomery because he is

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Speaker 1: you go to bettingpros dot com, seven seventy five and

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Speaker 4: I look the over here, Joe, and you mentioned the

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Speaker 4: think Montgomery is going to be their heavier duty runner.

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Speaker 4: Montgomery's been pretty durable throughout his career, and Detroit plays

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Speaker 4: It's not going to be the pushover that it was

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Speaker 1: So don't panic if you're making this investment here in

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Speaker 1: this number opened at nine to twenty five and a half.

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Speaker 1: at nine hundred even and a half minus one twelve

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Speaker 1: Harris is a very physical runner. I know everyone's excited

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Speaker 1: That's just not where I am. Harris is a physical runner.

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Speaker 1: This is Pittsburgh. They like a physical brand of football.

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Speaker 1: You're going over the nine hundred and a half, We're

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Speaker 3: I'm going over Joe.

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Speaker 4: And part of the disappointment of last season was that

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Speaker 4: In their first eight games, Nase averaged forty five point

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Speaker 4: the first half of the season and was presumably healthier

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Speaker 4: the best offensive line Nase he's ever run before. And

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Speaker 4: I've used this analogy before, the starting pitcher versus the

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Speaker 4: a little bit more. I think that's kind of what

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Speaker 4: I believe they're being truthful about that, but clearly this

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Speaker 4: is not going to be a fifty to fifty backfield

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Speaker 4: like Nause is the guy.

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Speaker 3: I think he goes over.

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Speaker 4: Nine hundred pretty easily, and he hasn't missed a game

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Speaker 4: and it's two pro seasons so far.

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Speaker 2: Point too.

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Speaker 1: My old Palette broadcast partner MLB insider Craig Mische always

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Speaker 1: starting pitchers. Always remember that, Always remember that. The reason

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Speaker 2: And sometimes it's wrong, but sometimes it's not all right.

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Speaker 1: It looks like we're kind of taking the Scott Bogwa

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Speaker 1: is too short for unders, because this next one is

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Speaker 1: another one where I'm just looking at the over and

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Speaker 1: it's really because of how this numbers come down. Breece

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Speaker 1: Hall's number started at eight fifty and a half going

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Speaker 2: Now it's all the way down Pat.

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Speaker 1: Since the Dalvin Cook signing, the seven fifteen and a

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Speaker 1: five and a half minus one twelve look, I understand

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Speaker 1: Am I too excited or are you equally excited about this?

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Speaker 4: I think it looks pretty good for the over here Joe,

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Speaker 4: And I know that Bears offensive coordinator Luke Gatsi probably

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Speaker 4: Fields as averaged six point seven yards per carry. If

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Speaker 1: And I know injuries can happen anybody, in the style

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Speaker 2: But eight hundred and a half to me's a joke.

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Speaker 3: Fits you said it, Joe, I mean, and that's it.

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Speaker 4: Like, look at the number and decide whether you think

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Speaker 3: And I think that's the case here with fields.

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Speaker 4: And like we'll put yeah, young quarterbacks get confused by

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Speaker 1: So maybe just a unit there, whereas the Field's one.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're going to Sizzler Baby after this. That's

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some of the passing yard totals,

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Speaker 4: If he plays seventeen games, he would need to average

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Speaker 4: it's a tough division, but like, I think he can

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Speaker 1: Now I'm leading towards the under but this is one

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Speaker 1: a half and now it's at four four hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty five point five.

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Speaker 2: Minus one twelve for the over.

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Speaker 1: The under number is all the way up to forty

441
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Speaker 1: four ninety nine point five at minus one oh five. Now, look,

442
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Speaker 1: all these numbers are minuses, So I really don't care.

443
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Speaker 1: I just want to get this right everybody. That's what

444
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Speaker 1: we're trying to do here. So I look at this one,

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Speaker 1: Pat and my instinct is over because I know it's

446
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Speaker 1: kind of a little wish and a prayer, like Keenan

447
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Speaker 1: Allen plays the whole season, but man if Keenan Allen

448
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Speaker 1: plays the whole season and Quintin Johnston, can you know,

449
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Speaker 1: start to develop at this level? It gives you a

450
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Speaker 1: little bit more insurance for the eventual loss of Mike

451
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Speaker 1: Williams at some point in this year, which always happens.

452
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Speaker 1: I mean, the health of the Chargers last year was abysmal.

453
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Speaker 1: I have to hope that there's some sort of regression

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Speaker 1: in that in the positive sense that somehow the Chargers

455
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Speaker 1: can rebound. But where do you see this?

456
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Speaker 2: Are you in the over or the under for Justin

457
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Speaker 2: Herbert's number?

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Speaker 4: Leaning under here, Joe, And I hate to do it

459
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Speaker 4: because I like big believer in the talent with Justin Herbert,

460
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Speaker 4: love that they've added weapons. I mean, they already had

461
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Speaker 4: Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, and now they're adding Quentin Johnston

462
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Speaker 4: to that mix and really good offensive line that they've

463
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Speaker 4: been diligently investing in. But he would have to average

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Speaker 4: more than two hundred and sixty passing yards a game

465
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Speaker 4: over seventeen games to top forty five hundred yards. And

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Speaker 4: that is a high bar. I mean, like that is

467
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Speaker 4: elite quarterbacking. And yes, I think Justin Herbert can get there.

468
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Speaker 4: And I like that he's got an offensive coordinator who's

469
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Speaker 4: going to be a little more vertical than we saw last.

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Speaker 3: Year, where I mean Herbert had one of the.

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Speaker 4: Lowest average depth of targets on his throes of any

472
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Speaker 4: starting quarterback last year, which, considering the hose that dude has,

473
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Speaker 4: is just plain ridiculous. I'm optimistic about the direction the

474
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Speaker 4: offense is going with Kellen Moore. But boy, it's just

475
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Speaker 4: a high bar, Joe. I'm not really eager to hit

476
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Speaker 4: the over on this.

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Speaker 1: One, understandably so Patrick Mahomes. I'm ready to hit the

478
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Speaker 1: over them just for perspective. Here twenty twenty forty seven

479
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Speaker 1: hundred yards twenty twenty one forty eight thirty nine twenty

480
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Speaker 1: twenty two, two hundred and fifty this number pat on

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Speaker 1: betting pros Right now, you can get as low as

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Speaker 1: four six hundred and fifty and a half minus one

483
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Speaker 1: twelve on the over. The under is four eight hundred

484
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Speaker 1: and a half at minus one fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Pat. This is a smash over for me.

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Speaker 1: This is another one where I'm taking the bigger units

487
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Speaker 1: and I'm pushing all in on Mahomes.

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Speaker 4: What do you think I don't disagree with your instinct

489
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Speaker 4: to go over on this one, Joe. I'm not touching it.

490
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Speaker 4: I'm not touching either side of it. Like I think,

491
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Speaker 4: he probably clears this if he stays healthy for all

492
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Speaker 4: seventeen games.

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Speaker 1: Think about he went over five thousand with that receiving core.

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Speaker 2: That a mishmash.

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Speaker 1: I mean talk about like you know, you going to

496
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Speaker 1: the dollar store and you're just buying a bunch of

497
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Speaker 1: things for the barbecue kind of thing. I don't even

498
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Speaker 1: understand sometimes, like how he did what he did. But

499
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Speaker 1: even you know, when you're watching these preseason games, like

500
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Speaker 1: you know, Patrick Maholl's just reminds you, like the best

501
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: receiver is the open receiver. That's what Drew Brees used

502
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Speaker 1: to do so well. So I'm excited for Rice. I'm

503
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Speaker 1: excited for a sky More year two.

504
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Speaker 2: Like I think some of these guys might be able

505
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Speaker 2: to contribute a lot walking area as Tony. But what

506
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Speaker 2: about Joe Burrow?

507
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Speaker 1: This is another one too. This number is right now.

508
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 1: It opened at four thousand, three hundred and twenty five

509
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Speaker 1: point five. It's gone down in some spots, obviously because

510
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Speaker 1: of that calf injury, which once again I'm intrigued by

511
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Speaker 1: sometimes when the market overreacts. Four two hundred and seventy

512
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: five and a half, that's the passing yard total number

513
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Speaker 1: for Joe Burrow at minus one twelve the under four

514
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five and a half. So, Pat, when

515
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Speaker 1: you're looking at the Joe Burrow number, do you have

516
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Speaker 1: a lean which way you want to go? Because last year,

517
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Speaker 1: if you look at the stats he was at forty

518
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Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty twenty one forty four to seventy

519
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Speaker 1: five last year. Both seasons he played sixteen games.

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Speaker 4: I'm leaning under here, and as with Patrick Mahomes, if

521
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Speaker 4: you could guarantee me that these guys were gonna both

522
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Speaker 4: make it through seventeen games, play all seventeen games, no injuries,

523
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Speaker 4: I'm hitting the over like the over is the best

524
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 4: percentage play on questionably, but Burrow is already going into

525
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 4: the season banged up now with this calf injury. He's

526
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Speaker 4: had a torn acl before. I'm like a little nervous

527
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Speaker 4: about the possibility of like a cascading injury where maybe

528
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 4: he favors the calf and then you know, some other

529
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Speaker 4: soft tissue injury happens. So a little concerned about that.

530
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Speaker 4: I just yeah, like it's possible he could finish under

531
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Speaker 4: this if he played seventeen games.

532
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Speaker 3: I don't think he would.

533
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Speaker 4: But when you bake in the possibility of miss games,

534
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Speaker 4: that's why I cannot hit the over on either Mahomes

535
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Speaker 4: or Burrow.

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Speaker 1: I'm hitting the over Mahomes at forty six fifty and

537
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Speaker 1: a half because I just think.

538
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Speaker 2: It's just too low.

539
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Speaker 1: It's just too low in this modern day NFL that

540
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Speaker 1: we're in, and they're just gonna put points and embarrassed

541
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Speaker 1: people again, Like I just I think I think that's

542
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: Steven Core is better year over year.

543
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Speaker 2: I just do the Joe Burrow one.

544
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Speaker 1: I get your concern, but when again, just like the

545
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Speaker 1: Bruce Hall one, when you're giving me an extra hundred

546
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Speaker 1: to work with here and it's already a low number,

547
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: was at forty three to twenty five and now you're

548
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Speaker 1: at forty two seventy five and a half. Man, I'm

549
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Speaker 1: going over on Joe Burrow too. I know it's a

550
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Speaker 1: little scary, but I think I would go that one.

551
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: What about Lamar Jackson. This is a fun one because

552
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: we've got a lot of incomplete seasons from Lamar Jackson.

553
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Speaker 1: You want to talk about injuries, Lamar has had him

554
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: The passing number for Lamar, the best over you can

555
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Speaker 1: find on betting pros dot com is thirty three fifty

556
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: and a half at minus one twelve. The under thirty

557
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Speaker 1: five hundred.

558
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Speaker 2: And a half.

559
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: Now, just for some context here, Lamar Jackson in his

560
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 1: career has never gone above thirty one twenty seven and

561
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: that was in.

562
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: His MVP season back in twenty nineteen.

563
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Speaker 1: So this is an interesting one where I know everyone's

564
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: excited about the new offensive coordinator. It excited about you know,

565
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: all the new receivers and all this stuff, blah blah blah.

566
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: But he's never sniffed thirty three point fifty, I mean,

567
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: or thirty five hundred for that matter. This is an

568
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: under for me, Pat and I'm excited about Lamar, but

569
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Speaker 1: I'm still trying to be excited with a green of salt.

570
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Speaker 1: I think thirty five hundred point five is a smash

571
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Speaker 1: on the under your thoughts.

572
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Speaker 4: It is a high bar to clear, Joe, I'm basically

573
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Speaker 4: walking away from Lamar's total, like, I have no interest

574
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Speaker 4: in this. Like I don't think you can underestimate the

575
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 4: importance of the coordinator change. Like Greg Roman was straight

576
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Speaker 4: from the Paleolithic era to play calling, Like he did

577
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 4: not believe in the forward pass. He was just dedicated

578
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 4: to the running game. And now Todd Munket is going

579
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 4: to throw the ball. They're going to throw the ball more.

580
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Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to totally abandon the run

581
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 4: when you've got maybe the best running quarterback the game

582
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 4: has ever seen. But they've upgraded the weaponry. They already

583
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 4: had one of the best pass catching tight ends in

584
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 4: the game in Mark Andrews, and actually a pretty good

585
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 4: pass catching tight end behind him in Isaiah Likely. Now

586
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: they've got Rashad Bateman hopefully healthy, Zay Flowers who spend

587
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: just a revelation in training yes, and Odell Beckham, who,

588
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 4: at least at the moment, is healthy. I don't know

589
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: if he's going to stay that way very long, but

590
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 4: he's healthy. So this is the best group of pass

591
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 4: catchers Lamar's ever worked with. So I could see the

592
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 4: case for over here, but I just can't bet over

593
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 4: based on the market.

594
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Speaker 1: I'm taking a page out of the Fitzmorris book where

595
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, show me first before. I believe I've learned

596
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: enough by doing enough shows with you to know this.

597
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Speaker 1: I'm going under on this one. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: if you want to follow us and I'll be putting

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Speaker 1: lines for all these things. All right, we're gonna wrap

608
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Speaker 1: things up here with a little rapid fire because we're

609
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Speaker 1: going to go through some of these receiving totals. I

610
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Speaker 1: want to get Fitsi's feel on this one. This one is

611
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: another smash on the over to me because I'm buying.

612
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Speaker 1: I'm drinking the kool aid on Elijah Moore five point

613
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: fifty and a half minus one fifteen is the over,

614
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: same thing on the under. I'm going over and Elijah Moore,

615
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Speaker 1: I think he is going to crush this number.

616
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Speaker 2: Pat, your thoughts totally agree.

617
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Speaker 4: No analysis to add, Joe, I think you're spying this.

618
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: This is so easy to me.

619
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Speaker 1: Sky Moore five seventy five and a half on the over,

620
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Speaker 1: minus one of six six hundred and a half minus

621
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Speaker 1: one fifteen on the under.

622
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Speaker 2: This is another over for me.

623
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Speaker 1: If he's working out of the slot consistently, Pat, there's

624
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: no way he doesn't cross well over six hundred yards

625
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: for me.

626
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, easy, over here too, Joe like he has been

627
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 4: running exclusively with the first teams, and I think a

628
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 4: lot of people saw that disappointing rookie year thought oh,

629
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,479
Speaker 4: you know, this guy's not gonna pan up. But he

630
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 4: was playing like a bunch of different wide receiver positions

631
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 4: after coming from the MAC Conference. I think is it's

632
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 4: a plausible explanation that his head was swimming. Now he's

633
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 4: going to be on the field a lot playing with

634
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes and an Andy Reid offense.

635
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 3: It's interesting like mvs.

636
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 4: Marquez Veldez Scantling has a higher total on DraftKings, and

637
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: sometimes you look at certain lines on games and you say, well,

638
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 4: you know, like, oh, I don't this line should be

639
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 4: seven not three, and then it winds up being a

640
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: three point game and you're like, oh, Vegas knows with props.

641
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: I don't think that that's why the juice is higher

642
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 4: on player props than it is for games like these

643
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: are been.

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Speaker 1: One positive folks. Everything's in the minus because they're just

645
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: trying to cover themselves. They want the action on these

646
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: because people are uncomfortable, because injuries happen, guys breakout, There's

647
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: all kinds of things speaking of breakout, save Flowers is

648
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: another number I think is way too low. Six hundred

649
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: and a half of minus one fifteen the number for

650
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: the under six twenty five and a half minus one twelve.

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Speaker 1: This is another one to be that it's a joke.

652
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Speaker 1: And I picked these because I think Flowers, More, Sky,

653
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: and Elijah these are three of my favorite wide receiver

654
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Speaker 1: targets and if I'm buying them in fantasy, I have

655
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Speaker 1: to be buying in that they're gonna get well over

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Speaker 1: these umber six hundred and a half.

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Speaker 2: To me, he's a joke.

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Speaker 4: For Zay, I agree, I'm drinking the kool aid. The

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Speaker 4: reports have been so Lamar Jackson calls him joystick Joe

660
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Speaker 4: like that excited he has, but like, yes, I'm all in.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's a couple that are more intriguing, maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit more debate. DJ Moore eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: a half on the over minus went twelve eight twenty

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Speaker 1: five and a half under minus one to twelve.

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Speaker 2: Where do you feel on DJ.

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Speaker 3: Moore coming out with all the Moors today?

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Speaker 2: Joe more and more and more, more, more more, How

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Speaker 2: do you like it? How do you like it? Fits?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm on the over.

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Speaker 4: Here, I mean in his second, third, and fourth NFL seasons,

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Speaker 4: DJ Moore cleared eleven hundred yards and his quarterbacks for

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Speaker 4: those three seasons were Kyle Allen, Teddy Bridgewater, and Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 4: And now he's shown like really exciting chemistry with Justin

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Speaker 4: Fields in the preseason and in training camp.

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Speaker 3: So I like it. He's he's going to be their

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Speaker 3: primary guy.

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Speaker 4: And even though this was a really really run heavy

678
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: offense last year, I don't think that's necessarily going to

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00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: be the case this year. I think I think he

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00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: clears eight hundred p pretty easily.

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Speaker 1: I want to end with two that I think are traps. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. The over one two hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 1: and a half, the under twelve hundred and fifty and

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Speaker 1: a half. Again, minus one twelve on the over, minus

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Speaker 1: one fifteen on the under. Fits is about health of

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, right, and you look at this number, you go,

687
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's so small. He's gonna crush this.

688
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: But if you're talking about injury potential and this and

689
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: the fear of Stafford's injury as well, this is what

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00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm staying away from. This is one that looks too

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Speaker 1: good to be true for me, and I'm running the

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Speaker 1: other direction. But where are you with this Cup number?

693
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Speaker 1: Because I know it's low and I know it's tempting.

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Speaker 3: You said it.

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Speaker 4: There are a couple potential bear traps with this bat

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Speaker 4: cups Helf and Stafford's health, and Cup has already been

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Speaker 4: dealing with a hamstring issue, Like I don't like players

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00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: going into the season dealing with soft tissue injuries.

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Speaker 1: And you don't like the under either because the talent

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Speaker 1: is there, Like this is a runaway for me, This

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Speaker 1: is a complete like you're damned if you do, and

702
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Speaker 1: you damned if you don't.

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Speaker 4: Because if Kupp and Stafford are healthy, like Cup could

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Speaker 4: challenge for two thousand yards, like you could shatter this.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, it's just, yeah, it's a really uncomfortable bet.

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Speaker 4: I'm just staying away.

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Speaker 1: Last one, it's a tight end on the receiving end.

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Speaker 1: Darren Waller another one of the guys, like it's funny

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Speaker 1: because this number has actually gone down. It went from

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Speaker 1: seven to fifty and a half uh in the over

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Speaker 1: and under to now you can get the over some

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Speaker 1: places at six forty and a half, which is pretty low.

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Speaker 1: But again, seven hundred is the under number at seven

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Speaker 1: hundred point five at minus one point fifteen, while there's

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Speaker 1: another guy injuries last couple of years. I know everyone's

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00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: excited about him, but now he's flown up these draft boards.

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Speaker 1: I'm out on this Darren Waller number two. To me,

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00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: it's too close and it's too tempting to smash the

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Speaker 1: over and look at everything being rosy and wonderful, and

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Speaker 1: I can't get there when it comes to Waller.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm going to smash the under on this, fun Joe,

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Speaker 4: there's no really, Yeah, we are not getting yet and

723
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna upset Derek Brown and Andrew rickson wall But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean this is a bat I did.

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Speaker 2: I've done some shows with him recently.

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Speaker 1: We're like it's too much now, Like he went from

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Speaker 1: being the value to now like the albatross. Like if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't hit this draft stock now that you're drafting him,

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Speaker 1: it could hurt your team. And I think that's where

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Speaker 4: He's missed fourteen games the last two years and he's

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Speaker 4: I think they're probably less than twenty percent. And like

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Speaker 4: like the health is just too scary for me to

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Speaker 4: hit the over here and I like the under All right.

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