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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory File Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. It is

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Speaker 1: July July fourth. Actually we will be talking about this

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Speaker 1: for the next three plus weeks. This is going to

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Speaker 1: be the focus of baseball and the Cubs, especially once

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Speaker 1: the draft hits and teams can really focus in on this.

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Speaker 1: But the trade deadline is It's always been one of

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Speaker 1: my most the most fun I've had as a fan.

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Speaker 1: When I was before I was in business, it's the

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Speaker 1: most fun I would have. I just loved following along,

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Speaker 1: and now it's it's really fun as a reporter to

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Speaker 1: dig in and try and get the information and find

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Speaker 1: out what's happening. And when the team you cover or

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Speaker 1: the people listening to this, the team you root for,

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Speaker 1: are in it, in our buyers, it's all the more fun.

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Speaker 1: And it's very obvious where the Cubs stand this season.

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Speaker 1: They see the past couple of years we've been talking

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Speaker 1: about the are they in it? Are they out with?

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Speaker 1: You know? The I don't think we'll ever forget covering

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Speaker 1: that twenty twenty three deadline where it was back and

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Speaker 1: forth trying to figure out that. You know, they were seller, seller, sellers,

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Speaker 1: then suddenly they became buyers. Last year they shocked us

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Speaker 1: with some moves, very surprised with some of their buying,

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Speaker 1: buying slash selling, and this year, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think we're going to be surprised by the decisions they make,

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Speaker 1: but they could pull some rabbits out of a hat.

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Speaker 1: I think Jed Hoyer was talking about the need to

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Speaker 1: be creative, but they're getting a starting pitcher. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the focus. I think that's what we've been talking about.

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Speaker 1: I think they've already started discussions and how they do this.

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Speaker 1: I think what they're talking about is how big do

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Speaker 1: we go, who's available, how do you get creative to

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Speaker 1: make something happen. Jedjuyer specifically brought up that concept of

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Speaker 1: maybe we need to do something unique to make to

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Speaker 1: get what we need. So this is going to be

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Speaker 1: an interesting next few weeks and the Cubs are going

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Speaker 1: to be in the think of it. There are people

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Speaker 1: predicting that the Cubs will be the most active team

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Speaker 1: or the most aggressive team and maybe making some of

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Speaker 1: the most fun moves of this month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really curious how these next few weeks unfold

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Speaker 2: more externally. Like to your point, we all know what

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Speaker 2: the Cubs want, what they need. It's not hard to

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Speaker 2: look at their pharmacist them and sort of pick out, yeah,

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Speaker 2: like that would make sense. Those guys that would probably hurt.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's anyone untouchable. So you kind of

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Speaker 2: look around baseball and it's like, are the Diamondbacks They're

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Speaker 2: basically a five hundred team now are what are they

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Speaker 2: going to do at the deadline? And as you mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 2: so they've like they're going to wait till the last minute.

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Speaker 3: They do not want to sell at all.

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Speaker 2: Are the Knnessey Royals are not really trending in the

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Speaker 2: right direction? They have a couple of nice pictures. What

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Speaker 2: did Zach Efflin get healthy? Should the Orioles sell? Obviously

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Speaker 2: the Marlins have been circled since last offseason with the

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Speaker 2: Lizardo deal that fell apart.

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Speaker 3: They obviously have a couple.

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Speaker 2: Nice pictures, and also curious to see, like who else

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Speaker 2: in the NL Central kind of puts their foot on

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Speaker 2: the accelerator here and who sort of drifts back this

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Speaker 2: fourth of July weekend series against the Cardinals. I think

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Speaker 2: will be interesting to that end, like can the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: Or are they gonna.

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Speaker 2: Kind of fade and then get through the All Star

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Speaker 2: break and they just kind of don't really have it.

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Speaker 2: They have no incentive to sort of add looks like

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Speaker 2: the Brewers are not going away. But like all of

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Speaker 2: this stuff here of you know, part of the conversation.

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Speaker 2: You know, for Jets front offices, you know there's playoff

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Speaker 2: probabilities and there's a World Series odds, and like, are

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Speaker 2: the Cubs going to like go all out to maximize

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Speaker 2: the World Series chances for this year? I sort of

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Speaker 2: doubt that that's not really how they operate. But having

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Speaker 2: said that, you're going to see, you know, multiple trades.

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Speaker 2: I think you got to go get a pitcher who

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Speaker 2: is just kind of a a no brainer, and then

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Speaker 2: just you know, do you strength and a strength They

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Speaker 2: have a nice offense, heavy players go just kind of

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Speaker 2: get more and so we'll see who becomes available in

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Speaker 2: this extra wildcard make things a lot more kind of muddled,

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Speaker 2: particularly at this point. But yeah, Cups fans are kind

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Speaker 2: levels now, like, all right, who's who's going to be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Royals have fallen back they had, They

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Speaker 1: had a really tough June. They're seven games under five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland's reeling right now. I'm not sure if there's a

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Speaker 1: fall out of it, you never know who they uh

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Speaker 1: if the Cubs want that contract. I think the Diamondbacks

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Speaker 1: of the team to watch for for Cubs fans. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if Merrill Kelly becomes available. They have some relievers they

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Speaker 1: obviously will talk about right handed hitters and and Suarez.

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Speaker 1: It would be a huge, huge addition to this offense. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Miami Marlins, it just I mean we've been talking

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Speaker 1: a couple arms that that you'd want to watch. Al Contra,

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Speaker 1: Edward Cabrera, I think Edward Cabrera is going to cost

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Speaker 1: talk about having a good pitcher. He's a good pitcher.

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Speaker 1: I think the Cubs with the their their pitching infrastructure

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Speaker 1: that I don't know how much. It'll cost a lot

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Speaker 1: You talked about it that they're their farm system. They're

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Speaker 1: kind of set up to kind of you know, do

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Speaker 1: they have a super deep, overflowing farm system. No, not anymore.

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Speaker 1: A lot some of these guys have graduated, but they

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Speaker 1: to be sought after. I think Kevin al Contra, Owen Casey, Moyses,

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Speaker 1: Contra's kind of gotten hot like he always does June

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Speaker 1: of turns it on perfect timing for the for the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. Uh and uh, I you know, Jordan Wicks

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Speaker 1: But these are the types of names you have to

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Speaker 1: look at and say, are the Cubs. They're likely willing

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Speaker 1: they're in win now modes, So go get some guys,

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Speaker 1: Go get go get a couple starting pitchers, frankly, but

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Speaker 1: why stop it at one if you can get a second.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't need to be a stud the second one. But

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Speaker 1: depth is so important, and I think the Cubs have

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Speaker 1: what it takes to go make some moves. It could

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Speaker 1: it staying in the future, sure, but this is you know,

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Speaker 1: I kind of liked Jen was talking about the idea

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Speaker 1: of increasing World Series odds. He was addressing their oldest

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Speaker 1: Chapman deal, and I think that's that's kind of of

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think we're quite there because they have

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Speaker 1: they're not quite running away with the division, but the

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Speaker 1: Brewers are still two and a half three games out

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Speaker 1: as we record, so it's not like they've just like

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Speaker 1: just purely increasing World Series odds, but that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what you know, maybe some of these secondary moves will

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Speaker 3: No, no, I mean, this is.

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Speaker 2: A great opportunity for this front office to really make

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Speaker 2: a mark here, and Jed says they can take on

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Speaker 2: money in the future, so part of this can also

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Speaker 2: be the twenty twenty six team making avoiding that cliff

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Speaker 2: that leads into the twenty twenty seven season, given all

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Speaker 2: of the players who are on kind of more of

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Speaker 2: a short term horizon here. But yeah, I think this

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Speaker 2: month will have Cubs fans just constantly refreshing their phone.

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Speaker 2: I think you can see it at Wrigley Field. Just

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Speaker 2: the energy around this team and the moment sort of

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Speaker 2: demands a major reinvestment from ownership, from the business side,

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Speaker 2: from baseball operations, to really go all in and not

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Speaker 2: really worry what you know, some minor league player might

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Speaker 2: do five years from now. This is the time to

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Speaker 2: go for it.

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Speaker 1: Patrick, Let's take a quick break and then come back

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Speaker 1: and talk about the bullpen.

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Speaker 1: The bullpen is always the need for every contending team.

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Speaker 1: I like this bullpen a lot. I think there's some

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Speaker 1: really good talent. There's the delivery that pitched really well.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's much of a debate anymore, or

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's just the volatility of it all

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Speaker 1: that you have to be aware of that. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's second in hitting bullpen the ra for the season

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Speaker 1: in baseball. I didn't. I didn't realize that. I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to go check. So they have a good bullpen.

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Speaker 1: But three months ago Porter Hodge was the best reliever

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Speaker 1: in this bullpen. Now he's you know, relegated to like

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Speaker 1: kind of building back up and showing what he can do.

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Speaker 1: Can he be a dominant reliever still? Uh? Drew Pomerantz

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Speaker 1: three months ago was in the minors and not not

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Speaker 1: expected to be a part of anybody's bullpen contemp Like

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Speaker 1: a year ago he was contemplating retirement. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: these things can change quickly. Chris Flexen was not anybody

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Speaker 3: Outing, but can you come.

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Speaker 2: Back the next day and prepare again and be ready

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Speaker 1: Mentally, Yes, and I think it is important. It is

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Speaker 1: The Cubs have the second most runs in baseball by

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Speaker 1: pinch hit, whatever it be. They have some and the

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Speaker 1: bench isn't as strong as it looked early on in

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Speaker 1: the season. The doll Bruhan is kind of just there

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Speaker 1: for his versatility and the occasional pinch running situation is

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Speaker 1: at bats just don't give you like they leave a

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Speaker 1: lot to you know, leave a lot to be desired.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd add.

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Speaker 2: Fran Berveldez to that list of lefties that they they face.

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Speaker 3: That was a recent one.

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Speaker 2: I think, Council you even said after Kate Horn's out

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Speaker 2: of like, you know this is gonna be good for

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Speaker 2: you to playoff is we're going to type of lambs

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Speaker 2: you're going to see.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's the same way.

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Speaker 2: You can look at it offensively, of like what can

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Speaker 2: you put together one through nine to go up against

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Speaker 2: some of the best pitchers in the game, whether it's

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Speaker 2: starters or those bullpens, like we talked about in the

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Speaker 2: previous segment, when managers are really going to be antsy

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Speaker 2: of putting their best pitchers in the highest leverage situations

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Speaker 2: over and over again. And so I think if you're

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Speaker 2: trying to build the best lineup one through nine, the

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Speaker 2: best active roster one through twenty six, the deepest possible

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Speaker 2: forty man roster, I think you make those additions and

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Speaker 2: sort of, you know, at least one hitter and figure

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Speaker 2: out the rest later.

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Speaker 3: I just think the injury risks.

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Speaker 2: Again, a manager who's really good at pushing those buttons,

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Speaker 2: you know who did it with the Brewers for a

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Speaker 2: long time of mixing and matching, I think that's an

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Speaker 2: easy ad. Obviously, Suarez would be kind of the home

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Speaker 2: run addition. But I don't think it would cost that

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Speaker 2: much to add a you know, a competent professional hitter.

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Speaker 2: And and I'm with you, I think you can keep

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Speaker 2: Justin Turner around. I think he means that much in

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Speaker 2: the clubhouse, and he is. His track record has been

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Speaker 2: so long. His playoff experience is just almost unmatched when

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Speaker 2: you look at just the amount of the bats he's had,

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Speaker 2: just the series he's been through, his influence on Picrow Armstrong.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's in either or with him.

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Speaker 2: But again, there's a lot of time to where what

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Speaker 2: we think is not a need today that could drastically.

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Speaker 3: Change by tomorrow. That's just kind of the nature of

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Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there are players available that could just crush lefties.

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Speaker 1: And and like you said, I think you wrote in

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Speaker 1: your piece talking about adding a bat, you mentioned JD. Martinez,

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Speaker 1: if I'm remembering correctly, I don't like even at the time,

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Speaker 1: the cost wasn't looked at. It's like this high cost.

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Speaker 1: You can get an impactful bat on a rental and

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't cost as much as pitching. There's just

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Speaker 1: so much more competition for relievers and starters yes, that

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Speaker 1: these these rental bats don't cost an arm and a leg.

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Speaker 1: You add in if we're going to talk about Suarez,

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Speaker 1: they have pitching there too. If you can somehow, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they have enough talent in their system to go get

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Speaker 1: a starter and a bat from Arizona. I mean one

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Speaker 1: stop shopping. You know, you get Merrill Kelly and au

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Speaker 1: henne O Suarez in one deal. You're feeling really good

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Speaker 1: about things. It's a you know that. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they can pull that off. Like we've said, with Arizona,

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Speaker 1: they are going to wait till the last minute. They

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Speaker 1: do not want to sell. They believe that things can

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Speaker 1: turn for them. This with a third wild card, makes

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Speaker 1: it there's incentive for teams to stay in and not sell.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you kind of adjust that and

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Speaker 1: make the trade deadline a little bit more interesting. That's

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Speaker 1: that's a topic for another day. But there's there's got

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Speaker 1: to be ways to adjust it. But I just that

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Speaker 1: if I would keep an eye on Arizona because I

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Speaker 1: think they're so important, and I also think that the

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Speaker 1: type of organization we're selling or moving impending free agents

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Speaker 1: is really important to their success. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: give up on seasons, but they also understand that, hey,

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Speaker 1: restocking our farm system can make us really good next year.

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Speaker 1: You know, a player like Kevin o' contra or Owen

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Speaker 1: Casey or whatever they're exactly in need of. Jordan Wicks

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Speaker 1: could be really valuable to them. Ben Brown, they're willing

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Speaker 1: to move and Ben Brown. These are the types of

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Speaker 1: players that teams that are out like that believe that

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Speaker 1: they can win next year. Especially, they are very enticing

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Speaker 1: to these teams, so I would keep.

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Speaker 3: An eye on them.

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Speaker 1: I do think that's the home run team. But you know,

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Speaker 1: there's plenty we talked about it in this episode already,

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Speaker 1: there's plenty of teams that you can look at and

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Speaker 1: the direction these teams go outside of you know, a

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Speaker 1: select few that seem like obvious sellers already, but there

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Speaker 1: are going to be teams that want to stay in it.

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Speaker 1: I assume like Arizona, Kansas City, Minnesota. These are teams

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Speaker 1: that want to stay in it, so that we're going

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Speaker 1: to have to monitor them and not just assume what

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Speaker 1: they're doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it almost feels like every trade

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Speaker 2: down like well, don't get your hopes up, like you know,

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Speaker 2: there's not many seller, you know, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: like stuff happened, like comes trained for parade as was

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Speaker 2: not something that was on on our radar.

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Speaker 3: Like things happen.

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Speaker 2: They come out of the All Star break, they take

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Speaker 2: their sort of you know, mini vacations or just kind

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Speaker 2: of get away from a little bit, and then everyone's

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Speaker 2: on the phones constantly.

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Speaker 3: And you never know.

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Speaker 2: What could happen, Like I wouldn't rule anything out at

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Speaker 2: this point.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, it's going to be an insane month.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure for Cubs fans. There's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: of rumors. We'll work our best to track them all

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Speaker 1: down and figure out what's real and what's not. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for listening to the North Side Territory. Make

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Speaker 1: sure to rate, review, subscribe, subscribe to the YouTube channel,

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