WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: The Rollercoaster Ride 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:05.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:16.880 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.880 --> 0:00:20.239 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Head Hours at 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:31.480 the Star in Friscola. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought Us, 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:36.680 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones and it's time for another 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:41.600 edition of Talking Cowboys the off Season Variety. And there 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:45.360 is so much to talk about since we convene on 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.920 a weekly basis here now during the off season. Bill Jones, 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:55.040 Mickey Spagnola, Rob Phillips, Brian brought Us has returned this week. Yes, 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.160 thank you, good to be back. Good to have you back, 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.520 appreciate that. And you've been back on the airwaves though. Yeah, 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.720 Thursday I tricked everybody into listening to a draft show. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.479 there that time of the year again. We're trying. We're 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.880 trying at the big old laptop computer here. Hey, you 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.560 never know when someone's going to call in from France 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.600 or Germany or one of these places Italy, you know, 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:22.400 and ask a draft question. I don't want to sound 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:26.119 like a complete jackass. You have all your draft information 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.520 on that computer. I know what I've I've I've worked 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.040 on about one hundred and seventeen guys already, one hundred seventeen. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.600 I'm trying to get the three hundred. Never be the 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:38.120 same level as Dan Dane Burglar, but I will. I 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.920 will work my best. Where's your book? You know what, 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:44.480 first round pick this year? We're not going to do 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:48.480 a book. That's a b I bought a green notebook 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:50.320 and I've decided I'm going to put it on my 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:54.040 iPad and there you go until that iPad gets stolen 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:58.440 or you could charge it alls out. I think I've 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:00.920 got an app that I like and I'm gonna go 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.160 ahead and do it on my iPad. You've stead of 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:09.200 the green notebook, you adopted the new school scouting methods. Now, Yeah, 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:14.200 he's interested in drafting short quarterbacks. That's where we become 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:19.360 on that topic. Driving in every sports talk show I 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.480 listened to and there were four of them driving and 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.120 they were talking about Kyler Murray this morning. Good for him, 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.560 I gotta have something to talk about, yeah, I guess. 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.679 And just imagine how much we're people are going to 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.000 be talking about that for the next well and is 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.079 it two and a half months, whatever it is. Yeah, 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.640 draft day, he's gonna go the combine. We'll see if 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.600 he throws. He's going to get the interview with the people. 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:40.720 Robin I'll be at the combine kind of hanging out. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.600 He'll be up on that podium. I'm sure Rob will 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.200 Farmer question or two sure about his days at Texas 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.240 A and him and why he was unable why he 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.359 was unable to do as good as at Texas and 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.720 him as he was in Oklahoma. Yeah, what clicked for 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:56.880 you when you're daft? Yeah, but it's the problem with 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.400 my alma mater. Well, he stand up on his tippy 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:03.840 toes when so measure it. Just Mike Nicky's got short jokes. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.040 You know what's funny, though, He is going to test. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.920 He's going to test guys that are scouts that are 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:15.320 my age and the new scouts. He's gonna the new 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:17.640 scouts are gonna love this guy. We just talked about 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.480 this way. And the old man scouts are gonna you know, 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.120 the guys that are like the old New York Giant 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.680 scouts that had height and weight, speed charts and stuff 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.000 like that. You know, there's no way he can. You 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.280 can't draft a five nine quarterback. But then you watch 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.800 him play and you go, oh my gosh, this guy's 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.320 got a lot of ability, you know, but that's it's Hey, 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:38.120 let me tell you, it's just as easy to bust 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:40.560 on Blake Bortles as it is to bust on this guy. 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.400 You know, you could talk about prototypical quarterbacks and if 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.880 you don't have the right environment and the right leadership 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.080 and the right coaching and the right heart and the 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.880 right ability, you know, you're gonna probably be a bust. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:54.440 So that guy changed my mind to at Cleveland a 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.360 little bit. Yeah, that guy changed my mind. What you 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.720 can do to come into a program and change it around. Well, 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:01.560 the other part of it is when you look at 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.480 who's got the first pick in the draft? Yeah, and ammunition, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:10.280 I guess yeah, if you Okay, I know you probably 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:13.520 haven't studied Kyler Murray. Oh. I was watching a guarded 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:17.320 Oklahoma today, you know. I was watching or Samia or 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.040 Samia is a good player by the Powers. I was 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.000 watching Powers today. And I'm sorry, Micky, I don't mean 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.640 to turn this into draft talk. No, I was just 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.400 gonna help you guys out because Michael Bidwell said that 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:31.159 they're committed to Rosen are they? Now? You can say 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:39.599 anything that my Questionruary twelve, Remember tough, it is Lincoln's birthday, right, Yeah? 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.159 Are they being honest when they say that I don't birthday? 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.760 But his comment was this is great stuff for talk radio. 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:52.360 Well and you are going to sing Josh Rosen's praises? 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:57.040 Sure so much? Right now? Yeah, you know, I mean, 0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.120 at the risk of talking Cardinals real quick. I just 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.719 report from Adam Schefter is that he's hiring the same 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.440 agent as Cliff Kingsbury's agent. Yeah. So yeah, it was 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:10.080 part of the you read the tea leaves and hummmm 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:14.120 interesting Eric Eric Burkhart, Yeah, a local guy, and he 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.680 could be throwing stuff out there for him. Try to 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.400 see how much somebody will give him for that first 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.760 pick in the draft, or for Josh Rosen, Yeah, or 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.279 for Josh Rosen? Bill, Where did you have Josh Rosen 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:29.960 in your quarterball last year? I wasn't that high on him. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:36.000 He um tora and him up. Yeah, but you weren't. No, 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:40.280 I wasn't. Was that? Was he you? Sail? Yes? So 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.560 where did you have him? I had him? I liked him. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.599 I thought he was my second best quarterback in the 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.880 draft I had last year. I thought he was that 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.880 guy at Atlanta. I thought he was Matt Ryan. When 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.919 I watched Matt Ryan as a young man at Boston College, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.400 I thought the same thing of this kid. The way 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.640 he played, the way he looked, the way he carried himself, 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.760 carried himself. He's a he's a privileged guy, you know. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.839 And so people say, well, he hadn't had his butt kicked, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.880 you know, and hadn't had his teeth chipped and all 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.360 those things like that, but uh, you know, he watched 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.400 the way he throws the football. But hey, the guy 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.080 did show some toughness because he did take some hits. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.880 Yeah they didn't they didn't take, but mean they I was. 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.680 I was impressed by him. Again, I thought Matt Ryan 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.159 when I watched him playoff, thought this guy's Matt Ryan, 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.560 the way he plays. And so, you know, I'm never 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.640 right about quarterbacks, but you know, he's the one guy 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.800 when you start talking about comparisons of what guys look like, 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.920 that's what I physically thought of with this guy. But 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.880 if you're the Arizona Cardinals and you got a new 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:45.120 coaching staff and Kingsbury obviously likes Kyler Murray, he high 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.080 recruited him first to Texas A and M and then 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.880 to Texas Tech. Surely. Yeah, And I just don't know 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:55.040 how much pull a Cliff Kingsbury's gonna have with well, 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:59.320 what's the average age of their coach their scouting department? Yeah, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:01.840 be a factor. I don't know. I mean, you want 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:03.680 to help the coach. You are as you can. You 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.640 are hiring him strictly because of what he can do 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:10.240 with offenses and quarterbacks specifically, So if you want to 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.480 let him go to work, maybe you let him make 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:14.080 that pick. I don't know. He needs to come out 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.600 and talk about Rosen. He needs to come out and 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:18.400 maybe we'll see that the combine. This will be a 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.040 first opportunity he'll he'll stand at the podium and Rob 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.000 will ask him a question about that. You know, you 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.720 know your your thoughts about Rosen, and you know say, 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.240 you know, hey, we're committed to Rosen and Mickey's right 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:33.239 right now as we talk on February twelfth. Be interested 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.520 to see though, if one of those teams do step up? 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.600 Does does the New York Giants step up? You know 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.920 the Giants step up and say okay, we'll get we're 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.640 in the sixth hole here, Jacksonville. Yeah, we'll go to 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.960 the well, you know, we'll you know, maybe we'll let 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:48.840 you you know, we'll drop let you drop down and 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:50.600 take that guy, that kind of thing. Maybe, you know, 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.520 Jacksonville is another team. Yeah, that skin they're going to 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:56.320 look at a quarterback that that has physical Tom Coughlin 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:59.760 again from the Giants system. He implements a lot of 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.640 those name scouting principles for Jacksonville. Right, So you know, 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.440 you've got a couple of teams there that are not 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:07.920 particularly going to be looking at a short quarter But 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.600 that's what I'm saying, is that if they like Rosen, 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.679 That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you trade, you say, okay, 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.880 we will you know, does take yeah exactly? Does Rosen 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.080 cost somebody the sixth of the eighth overall pick. Yeah, 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:25.080 that's where Cardinals can take Murray wherever he falls. Yeah, 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.240 and maybe you know, and if he if they felt 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.320 like he would be there at six or eight, they 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.000 take Bossa at one. Yeah. You know, there's there's a 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:36.000 lot of people that don't feel like that, that they 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.240 feel like and this is again guys I'm working with 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:40.199 on the draft in general managress and if I'm talking. 0:08:40.240 --> 0:08:46.679 They're talking about the first ten twelve picks being defensive players. No, 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.959 no running back, no wide receiver, no tie it end, 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:55.240 no quarterback, no quarterback. Yeah, so they're talking about this 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.200 being very heavy. And if you look at two, the 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:00.199 Simmons kid, you know, there's reports now the def of 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.880 tackle from Mississippi State is tore up his knee. So 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:09.080 get ready, cowboy fans at fifty eight. So let's just 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:13.240 cut to the chase. Yeah, take take Simmons. Would you 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.559 take Kyler Murray with the first pick in the draft? 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.280 They took Johnny Man, and they took that guy last 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.400 year first pick in a little different though a little 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:24.120 differently how different He's not five nine, he's six foot, 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.040 you know, and close souter and he's a little different 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:32.160 to me. And you're absolutely right, Brian. I think offenses 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.600 have changed. It's more they're implementing more of the college game. Sure, 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.400 but it tells if he goes that high, it tells 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.080 me a lot about the state of the league and 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:42.680 how so many teams are trying to find that guy. 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:47.120 So you'd take them? No, I have reservations about how 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.800 many guys that small have been franchise quarterbacks. Drew Brees, 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.600 he's tick under six orco. He's probably thrust. Wilson's won 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.480 a super Bowl. A couple of super Bowl winning quarterbacks. 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.520 Booty bounce around three inches taller. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.760 they Field's taller than that Bill. You've seen him both play. 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:08.920 Take them. I take back last year at this time 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.480 I said I'd take I'd take Baker Mayfield number one. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:14.280 You did and you I did it, would do it? Yeah, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.080 And that was even closer to the draft. Oh, that 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.360 was right on top of the draft. And um, the 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:24.160 the reservations that I have on Murray are more so 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:28.120 more so on the height. No is He's only got 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:33.280 one real year of plan and as opposed to Mayfield, 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.600 had a lot more experience, a lot more snaps than 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:40.120 what both transfer. And I said this off air, I 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.920 think Murray's got more talent than may be right, and 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:47.960 my judgment might cloud watching him arm talent. Half first 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.480 pick I would take if I'm Arizona, I'd take Kyler 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.920 Murray with the first pick. You know what they know? 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.720 Because I like the other I like the quarterback that 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.720 I drafted last year. I'm gonna make it work. I 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.800 wouldn't take him with the first pick. No basing on 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.120 who what I got currently on my team, and I'm 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.199 and I'm basing it on whom my coach it who 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:11.160 I decide. If they're crazy enough to hire Cliff Kingsbury 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.800 as the head coach, then they're crazy enough to draft 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:17.040 Kyler Murray. I think, Yeah, I think they hired Kingsbury. 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.600 Don't you think though they hired him with the idea 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.280 of this guy can help Rosen. That's that's why I 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.920 think they hired him. Absolutely, I do. You don't think 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.880 they thought that Kyler Murray would be that By the way, 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.920 that's the other part of about his money. Who is 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:36.760 surprised that Kyler Murray picked football over baseball? I mean 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:39.080 what the Oakland A's are sitting there acting like they're 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.360 shocked that he's not showing up today for spring training. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:47.240 There has not been any evidence whatsoever that Kyler Murray 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.679 has been in a batting cage in the last month, 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.800 much less the last seven months. And I'm sorry, you 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.400 cannot show up for spring training if you haven't been 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:59.280 practicing baseball and like, but was he really going to 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:05.120 play for the a As To start out with? Yeah, Kyler, 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.920 but still not act like Kyler. Murray couldn't go pick 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:11.959 up a bat right now. No, but you ivenes, No, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:18.480 there's no way he would really know what I mean. No, no, 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.680 I mean, and that's the other part of it. He 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:25.920 only played one year, which is about three months of 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.320 college baseball. Yeah, I mean he was a pinch runner 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.120 last what year before last? That was always used, and 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:33.920 then all of a sudden this last year you get 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.960 picked ninth overall. Then Bill because his talent, I think 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:38.920 he's what do you get he had a he had 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.840 a terrific year and he hit clean up last spring, 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.480 but the year before he barely played. He would use 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:46.840 as a pinch runner. What do you get from the 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.960 as to sign point seven million? Yeah, the A's have 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.320 only given him one point two million of it right now, 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.679 So you know, if he stu he was due the 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:56.559 other part of it, and March first, he was to 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:58.960 the other three point one. I think if he thinks 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.520 he's got a shot to be the number one pick 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.600 in the NFL draft, then it's fine. Yeah, you know, 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.840 aside for the money doesn't matter. It's a no brainer. 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:12.000 As far as if even if Oakland he decided probably 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.920 where do they give out the Heisman Trophy? Now, I 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.080 mean he would That night he decided the Downtown Athletic Club, 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:22.800 New York. Yeah, yeah, be on the Heisman committee. Yeah, 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:24.280 I want that job. I want to I want to 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.560 CBS jacket with the the you know, the peacock eye 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.559 on your omo. Yeah, I wanted that, or a Orange 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.560 Bowl Bowl game jacket orange with the bowl getting the 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:35.560 other logo on it. And then I also want to 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:39.320 be on the Heisman committee. But the possible. The A's 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:44.000 were looking for publicity, right ninth, Well, what do you 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.959 mean don't you don't waste the ninth pick in the 0:13:47.040 --> 0:13:50.480 draft on a well baseball draft Bob Hayes in the 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.360 twelfth round or something like that during that many years 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.720 is you're gonna spend in Fresno? Okay, when did Russell 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.520 Wilson get drafted? He was a late pick, right, Yeah, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.320 that's one thing. Right, you draft a guy like the 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:05.960 Cowboys drafted Pat Riley, you're gonna you're gonna draft a 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.959 center fielder that doesn't hit for power and might hit 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.280 three hundred. You don't do it this fun In the 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.480 ninth pick of and the Oakland A's had no idea 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:18.640 that he would have the season that he had as 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.400 a football player. They let him play. They had they 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.320 had seen him play at Texas A and L. That 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.600 shows you they're bad evaluate They had the same opinion 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:30.000 of Kyler Murray that Rob Phillips had going into last season. 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.760 I'm clouded by that because he hadn't seen him failed 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:34.520 at Texas A and L. I went him. I saw 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.080 him play at half against Alabama at Kyle Field and 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.120 they couldn't move the ball, And I thought, Um, maybe 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.760 you're a bad evaluator. Right, maybe I am, but you're 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.880 like me. Or maybe maybe they did a better job 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.400 of coaching him at OU. Are they stuck with him? Well? 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:52.040 He left? Yeah, he quit. Yeah, well because he didn't 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:53.920 like the way it's it's kind of it's kind of 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:58.280 been now and he kind of a quitterman. And the wow, yeah, 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:03.520 he he's quit baseball, he quit college, he's quit everything. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.320 So far, all the decisions have been good. He's following 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.280 the money. He's gonna get more money doing this. You 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.760 think his dad's involved here, Sure, if dad's kind of 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.840 pushing him along. He goes to the Raiders and then 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:19.880 does both. Yeah, how about Tyler's double play. Here you go. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.680 But the A's aren't going to Vegas, you know, Yeah, 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.920 that's true. You get a new stadium though, Yeah, good 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:32.720 for them, yep. Him. Along those lines though, of picking quarterbacks, 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:37.480 I think if you can relate it back to Cowboys situation, 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.760 if you want, if you had an opportunity, even though 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.640 you picked the with the tenth pick in the draft 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:49.920 last year, a quarterback, but you in your scouts feel 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.200 like this quarterback is better than that quarterback and you 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.800 can get something in return for that quarterback that you 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:01.040 drafted last year. Well, yeah, but great the position. That's true, 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:02.880 But a lot of it is coaching. Like Brian said 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:06.600 about Jared Goff, he looked like a potential bust. After 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:10.240 you're one, they bring in Sean McVay and he fixed it. So, 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:12.600 you know, if you're hiring Cliff Kingsbury to come in 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.800 and be a quarterback whisper, maybe you stick with your investment. 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:17.720 I don't know. Maybe it's going to depend on how 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.480 much he loves this kid. You know, we'll find out. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:25.360 Those were Bidwell's words. They were what Bidwell basically said, 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.600 would he Michael Bidwell? Right? Bidwell right, that's why we 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:31.600 got Klingsbury because we wanted him. And he said during 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.720 the interview that the first thing Klingsbury said, and he 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.880 said to Kingsbury, Kingsbury, I said, klings Clint Klinger right. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:45.240 Everybody Yes. During the interview, he was the only head 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.560 coach candidate they interviewed that said bring the tape out. 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:54.560 We'll break it down on him, meaning rosen Man, Bill's 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.480 not believe in any of those Why wouldn't the coach 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.400 say that of other coaches they interviewed. I mean, you're 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:01.640 tried to get the job, aren't you. Yeah, I can 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.720 fix that guy. That's the first question if if they 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.359 had a coaching change here would have been could you 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.720 help could you help Dak Prescott? How are you going 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.879 to help da Prescott? Absolutely, that would have been the 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.520 first question I think that the owner and general manager 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.800 would have asked. Because the Cowboys are a year or 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.800 less away from all right, how much are we paying him? 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.400 You know? How much are we committing to Dak Prescott 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.840 down the line. So it's a huge investment. Cask you 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:26.600 guys a question real quick. Build we have to go 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.000 to break you know what. My answer to that would 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.000 have been, what my question. Yeah, no, the question you 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:36.880 were poison posing about how can you help Dak Prescott? Yeah? 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.879 Oh I know this answer. This would have been the 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.359 time I would have said, well, let's be Dak friendly 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.160 and get him some damn wide receivers. Yeah, and don't 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:47.919 let him get sacked fifty six times. That was your 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.760 best reason. By the way, if you're in a situation, 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:55.760 if you're Dak Prescott and Jason Garrett, now you kind 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.320 of look at each other and have a meeting and say, 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.159 you know what, they don't like either one of us us. 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.040 They're not too happy with either one of us right now? 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.160 Do you think they have that conversation? Who's they they 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.920 being Jason Garrett and Dak Presson? I know who's who's 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.200 not happy with him? Well? Safe for the front office. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.680 I mean, if you talk about just the contract extent, 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.520 and we don't know about press Scott. We know what 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.160 the what's going on with Jason Garrett. But if you're 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.320 Jason Garrett, what's going on? What's going on? Yeah? That 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.719 he doesn't have an extension yet, Okay, so what does 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.320 he have to do to get it in its extension? 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.600 I don't know, because he won the division this year 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.000 and won a playoff and won a playoff game, and 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.280 he still didn't get an extension. So what's he got 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.760 to do? I don't know. Maybe the super Bowl. No, 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.639 No one's asked Jerry that has it. No, he's got 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.520 to go further than he's ever gone. I feel like 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.120 you have to progress at some point. Jerry hasn't wanted 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.280 to discuss it either. He's been asked, Yes, he's avoided it. 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.080 He he hasn't wanted to talk about Garrett's contract. Yeah, 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:54.639 so he's been asked about the subject, and there hasn't 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:56.639 been a lot of discussion about. He wants to keep 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:01.840 it in house and that's his absolute right. So everybody's guessing, then, no, 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.440 we're not he's not getting an extension. No, no, I'm 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.920 not saying he's not getting an extension. We don't know 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:09.720 what he has to do to do an extension that 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:12.480 he obviously more than he's done. When more than two 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.120 playoff games in his career, you know, he's won three 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.040 in the last five. Every time. Again, I've tried to 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.600 fire him. He's won a division, But I mean that's 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.920 that to me. I'm I'm from the school of you know, 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:25.960 keep everybody together one more time. See what happens, you know. 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.680 But yeah, obviously they've got other plans. I think he 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.760 has to get off the roller coaster to earn the extension. Well, 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.720 the roller coaster is make sure people will say he 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:38.560 was the reason why they were three and five up 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.520 and down, up and down, and and he's there's no, 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.680 he doesn't have to extend him right now. So let's 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:48.160 go ahead and see what happens and what the trend 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:50.320 has been. This is the roller coaster, This is the 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:53.040 roller coasters going. This is when we're screaming going down 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.600 the hill. How many screaming going down the hill? Right now? 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.480 We need to get back up to where at least 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:02.000 we're on level playing. Okay, so what is that, Well, 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.639 that would be up at least dupe. They haven't had 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.800 a back to back there is yet? How come? All right, 0:20:07.960 --> 0:20:11.359 there's been there's there have been issues that have affected 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:14.720 the roster. Romo got hurt in twenty fifteen, goes down, 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.800 I get it, I get it. If it goes down, 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:19.880 it's still it's over. But you know, in twenty sixteen, 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.520 a fourth round draft pick ledge to thirteen wins, So 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:24.520 you know you can kind of look at it two 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:26.960 different ways. That was good. You were the one team 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.520 that is into history that had first round through the 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.399 bye or had number one seat through the playoffs and 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.119 didn't didn't make it. I mean, things happen. You know, 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:37.639 Nick Foles won the Eagles the Super Bowl, you know, 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:39.640 So you can't always look at it and say, well, 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:41.480 we lost this guy and this guy and that's the reason, 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.600 because this team has overcome that before twenty sixteen was 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.680 I mean, what were we thinking when Romo broke his 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:50.879 back that August? Oh? No, yeah, I mean I was 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.280 in a broadcast booth with Brad Sham. We were worried. 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.600 But trust me, but they did go thirteen and three. Yes, 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.200 but they didn't win a playoff game. No, so that 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.920 dismisses thirteen in three. It doesn't dismiss it. Like mill said, 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:06.840 it's roller coaster. It's sustained playoff success, not necessarily half. 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:13.680 Romo got hurt and somebody decided they needed to trade 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.640 for Matt Castle. Well, we've had this discussion. I don't 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:19.119