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Speaker 1: wa with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us, and bar Garcia
Speaker 1: and Derek Eagleton. It's Thursday, December fifteenth, twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: Season eighteen, episode number ninety. Welcome to the latest edition
Speaker 1: of The Break, live from s WBC Mortgage Studios at
Speaker 1: the Star. We're presented my little like the Only Beer
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys. A day we talked Jacksonville defense
Speaker 1: versus the Cowboys offense. Will take some questions from you guys,
Speaker 1: so if you have some, you can hit me on Twitter.
Speaker 1: You can also call us eight eight eight eight five five, two,
Speaker 1: two and seven. But where we're gonna start is where
Speaker 1: we ended. Let's talk about ob J. Nick, you want
Speaker 1: to go, that's something you want to say. You know,
Speaker 1: It's not like I'm doing anything. It's the owner that
Speaker 1: keeps talking. He keeps this thing going. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like a camp fire. It's like Okay, well there that
Speaker 1: that camp, that fire is about to be out. It's
Speaker 1: like watch this and then the flame comes, how it goes?
Speaker 1: I don't know camp like once Nascar. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: camp out there. But that's um, yeah, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be roughing it out there. You know that's not true.
Speaker 1: I don't say sorry if the response right, I didn't
Speaker 1: even say that. Get a text just you know, our
Speaker 1: stream just went down, our stream literally, just I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: When Jerry said this could break, I could break. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he could. And here's here's I think what's
Speaker 1: it sounds like people are not really remembering this aspect
Speaker 1: of it. The sooner he also said sooner than later.
Speaker 1: And I think the reason why is just looking at
Speaker 1: the math. Another thing that's not strong for me. But
Speaker 1: four weeks. If you sign him now, you got to
Speaker 1: put him on IR immediately because he's not going to
Speaker 1: be wasting a spot in your roster. You gotta put
Speaker 1: him on IR. If you want him back for the
Speaker 1: playoffs for that first games, you got to do it
Speaker 1: now so you can get him back for the playoffs
Speaker 1: at all, if he's ready to even do that. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I just think that that's
Speaker 1: where I think the sooner than later thinking this is
Speaker 1: going to happen at all, do it? And you know,
Speaker 1: it's probably the most relevant, irrelevant story ever because he
Speaker 1: may never even play for the Cowboys. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean we've seen this before, and I think there's so
Speaker 1: many things that can come into play when you'd start
Speaker 1: dealing with these caliber of players and their connection to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I mean, the fact of the matter is,
Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head. This isn't this
Speaker 1: is an original reporting necessarily, this is Jerry literally said it.
Speaker 1: He was getting into his car and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this thing could break soon, sooner rather than later, Like
Speaker 1: that's Jerry is saying. So if Jerry is saying it,
Speaker 1: then of course you have to take it seriously. And
Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of people and myself personally,
Speaker 1: I just you know, as you're looking at you kind
Speaker 1: of like, okay, either do it. Don't like I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of tired of talking about it. But I think
Speaker 1: the reason why it keeps coming back is because the owner.
Speaker 1: It seems as though the owner is still very interested
Speaker 1: in the possibilities here. And I get his point. I
Speaker 1: think the point of what he's saying is if there
Speaker 1: isn't even a chance that at some point in the
Speaker 1: playoffs this guy could be healthy and can help you
Speaker 1: give you a few plays, right, That is the difference
Speaker 1: between the team that wins the super Bowl and the
Speaker 1: team that doesn't, the team that gets to the super
Speaker 1: Bowl and the team that doesn't. It's a few plays.
Speaker 1: And if you can have a chance to maybe get
Speaker 1: that out of a player like this, it might be
Speaker 1: worth it. He is willing to write the check to
Speaker 1: try and get it. Daniel always, you know, Jerry always
Speaker 1: comes on either you know the dot com side or
Speaker 1: you know, or it comes on the radio at one
Speaker 1: o five three and he says, you would be surprised
Speaker 1: the check I would write. Jerry would write a million
Speaker 1: dollar check. If what Derek is talking about is absolutely right,
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden in the game Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: plays and he catches three balls, one of us a touchdown,
Speaker 1: the other two or first downs in the game, and
Speaker 1: you win, that would be completely worth it to Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: Not everybody else you know along the way would be
Speaker 1: like wow. But that's I want to ask you Nick,
Speaker 1: because again I thought you did a great job on
Speaker 1: one oh five three this morning talking about they got
Speaker 1: you on suddenly and you did a great job of
Speaker 1: handling that. Is this a Johnny Manzill's situation with it?
Speaker 1: And I mean this in a way where like Jerry's
Speaker 1: lining up and Stephen and Will and Mike McCarthy and
Speaker 1: medical staff and everybody's over there, Saint Jerry, it's not
Speaker 1: gonna time's not gonna work, and Jerry's doesn't have time
Speaker 1: for you to tell him that, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: is that here what we're dealing with right now. I
Speaker 1: think the same type of premise of Jerry leading the charge.
Speaker 1: The difference is as you're not you're not gonna pass
Speaker 1: You're not passing up on potential Zach Martin. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: they would have if they didn't, right, right, So it's
Speaker 1: either take O, B J or Air. I mean, like
Speaker 1: that's well, the argument could be, listen, you signed t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton, like Jerry, we've got the guy that we
Speaker 1: think can who's healthy and all that. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: that's where the argument is. But then Jerry goes, did
Speaker 1: you ever see that one hand catch that guy made
Speaker 1: on us in that game? Do you ever see what
Speaker 1: he did in the Super Bowl. You know, did you
Speaker 1: ever see you know, all this stuff going on, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I could understand Jerry, And listen, I'm dancing with you
Speaker 1: on this yesterday. I don't think I was dancing with you.
Speaker 1: I'm ready to dal you. We gotta we gotta get
Speaker 1: our mass straight. We're gonna get our mass straight. On
Speaker 1: percentages and stuff. And I don't know if you could
Speaker 1: really put a percentage on it, because I think it's
Speaker 1: up to the player. If the player was really, really smart,
Speaker 1: he would take the opportunity to work with one of
Speaker 1: the best rehab guys in the league and get paid
Speaker 1: to do it. And if it doesn't work out, where
Speaker 1: the season and like it never happens, he gets money,
Speaker 1: he gets rehabbed, and now he's ready to make money
Speaker 1: in the fall. It's a no it's it's a no
Speaker 1: lost thing for him to come in here and sign
Speaker 1: and take what they're willing to offer him. And with
Speaker 1: the opportunity of getting him right to maybe he could
Speaker 1: play in that game that Derek's talking about. You know,
Speaker 1: when you start asking Nick that question laughing that movie
Speaker 1: I don't even remember the name of it, But he's
Speaker 1: like we're going streaking and he goes running and next
Speaker 1: thing you know, you see him out there streaking by
Speaker 1: himself and nobody's out there. Only difference here is I
Speaker 1: think the old school. Yeah. The only difference here is that,
Speaker 1: why are you looking like that? I just it's just
Speaker 1: we're different. Nick. You don't want me, Nick, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen that movie today. You've never seen today? Like oh today, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's right up you're at that You're kind I
Speaker 1: don't remember that now, I don't even remember. But but
Speaker 1: it's like, but the difference here is Jerry can be
Speaker 1: out there by himself and it can still happen. And
Speaker 1: that's why this story continues to go is because he
Speaker 1: doesn't need he doesn't need everybody in line up with
Speaker 1: him on his side on this. He could just literally say, guys,
Speaker 1: is what we're doing, and guess what. Everybody's gonna have
Speaker 1: to get in line because that's what Jerry wants to
Speaker 1: do here the owner, I totally agree. I think everything
Speaker 1: that you said on one oh five three the Fan
Speaker 1: this morning and your story on Dallas Cowboys dot Com,
Speaker 1: like I say, I don't ever, I've never known you
Speaker 1: just to throw stuff up against the wall and hope
Speaker 1: it sticks. The employer always strikes if there's something going
Speaker 1: on here. And you know what, I'm like you, I'm
Speaker 1: walking into the smoke and I'm looking for the fire
Speaker 1: right now. But Amber makes some sense of all this,
Speaker 1: I mean really makes some sense of all this, because
Speaker 1: I know how you are. You're pretty cut, cut and dry.
Speaker 1: What do you think just sitting here listening to you guys,
Speaker 1: I'm freaking over it. I'm so annoyed. I cannot express
Speaker 1: how annoyed I am right now at the whole situation.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things that you're like, uh, excited,
Speaker 1: and then you're excited, excited, exciting, nothing happened, and then
Speaker 1: you start losing the excitement. Not that I don't want
Speaker 1: him here or whatever, but it's just like one of
Speaker 1: those like you're kind of getting over it. What's that
Speaker 1: fairy tale? Not fairy tale, that little kid story, not
Speaker 1: that one Little kids the cry wolf or whatever. Ye. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one of those situations like, Okay, it's gonna happen
Speaker 1: or notis but like down, yeah, but the thing is
Speaker 1: last night. So I'm seeing the reports right and then
Speaker 1: at the same time I'm looking at other reports that
Speaker 1: are coming out saying he might not even be ready
Speaker 1: for even the playoffs. He might just wait until free
Speaker 1: agency and kind of wait his options at that point.
Speaker 1: So it's like, Okay, which one is it? And if
Speaker 1: and he goes back to what you guys were talking
Speaker 1: about the other day, whether like the player him self,
Speaker 1: whether he actually believes that he's going to be ready
Speaker 1: or not, because, like you guys said, why what would
Speaker 1: be to hold up at this point? Rather than sign
Speaker 1: get out here, start training. You got one of the
Speaker 1: best doctors in the country. Why not come out here.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's very confusing as to what's actually happening,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, Okay, is it worth it? Is
Speaker 1: it worth all this drama distraction? I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think this is distracting the players whatsoever, and the team
Speaker 1: and McCarthy and all that. This is all Jerry. But
Speaker 1: if it's going to happen, let's let's freaking do this thing.
Speaker 1: And if not, is he it's just confusing health wise?
Speaker 1: Is he even able to play just one? I guess
Speaker 1: that's really well right now at least two plays or
Speaker 1: something playoffs? Not right now, he's not. But to an
Speaker 1: eighty year old man who hasn't seen really NFC championship
Speaker 1: success in twenty something years. He's looking at like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I don't have time for you guys to
Speaker 1: tell me this is not gonna work. You know, we're
Speaker 1: not We're not guaranteed tomorrow around here, you know. And
Speaker 1: I think that I think there's a sense of urgency.
Speaker 1: I think Jerry understands what the player can do. I
Speaker 1: think it's just can he get everybody else to come
Speaker 1: with him on it and hits his team? He needs
Speaker 1: the player to come with him now, that's it. He
Speaker 1: needs to convince the player this is the best place
Speaker 1: for him right now. I think something in him, sorry,
Speaker 1: something in him actually in OBJ actually changed after hearing
Speaker 1: the t Y Hilton signing. Do you think that would
Speaker 1: even affect him? Are you? Are you saying it did?
Speaker 1: He would he have changed his thoughts on what he
Speaker 1: might want to do after Maybe I'm just wondering because
Speaker 1: prior to that it seemed kind of like, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: this is a done deal, it could happen anytime soon
Speaker 1: or whatever. But then did that signing, Maybe because clearly
Speaker 1: the Cowboys still want him. Jerry Jones still wants him.
Speaker 1: But did that change something in Obj's mentality or you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know this because I never talked to him,
Speaker 1: but um, I think that he he There's two ways
Speaker 1: you can look at it. He could also say, you know,
Speaker 1: he said, I don't want to be here for the
Speaker 1: regular season, I don't need to be any made a
Speaker 1: well me too, yeah, me too, Like but like, you
Speaker 1: don't have to say that because you're not going through.
Speaker 1: That's all you could have said is I would love
Speaker 1: to be here, I'm not ready to do that. Then
Speaker 1: everyone understands that. Yeah, But I don't think OBJ nover
Speaker 1: disrespect to t Why Hilton and you know, be honest,
Speaker 1: the why Hilton said some things yesterday that didn't sit
Speaker 1: well with me either, But whatever, it's I'm old school,
Speaker 1: I guess for um, what do you say? That was? Oh?
Speaker 1: Just he just kind of kept something like make you
Speaker 1: there for a second. Oh, I'm trying to retire. I
Speaker 1: mean I always said if that happened though, No, Um,
Speaker 1: I just think just so hilarious. I mean just the
Speaker 1: point of like, I just wanted to watch my kids
Speaker 1: this year. I didn't really miss football and I didn't
Speaker 1: really want to play. I wanted to watch them play sports.
Speaker 1: But now that they're season's over, I'm ready, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just kind of and he said
Speaker 1: it once, they said it twice, and you know, it
Speaker 1: was did you miss football at all? He's like, not really,
Speaker 1: and so it just kind of, I don't know, whatever,
Speaker 1: just go go run routes. I don't I don't care.
Speaker 1: I know that I'm a little different when it comes
Speaker 1: to that, and but you know, I mean, but I
Speaker 1: got kids too, and I you balance it, you do
Speaker 1: it and all that stuff. So just I just I
Speaker 1: just wonder what it's like. And I think back to
Speaker 1: like Jason Witton was pissed off when Cole Beasley quit
Speaker 1: for like a he was came back and then it
Speaker 1: was like, we don't want this guy, you know, and
Speaker 1: then he saw him run routes. He's like, Okay, he'll work.
Speaker 1: But but I mean, you know, it's just the mentality
Speaker 1: of these guys are busting their ass, and so these
Speaker 1: other guys are coming in going all right, well, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm ready to join you guys. You
Speaker 1: guys are ten and three, look like you might do
Speaker 1: something in the playoffs. I mean, no one's trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, join the Falcons, you know, so it's it
Speaker 1: just kind of it's fine with me, it's whatever. But
Speaker 1: I just wonder what some of the Marcus Lawrences in
Speaker 1: the locker room think about those comments. But I will
Speaker 1: say this in fairness, he did also say I'm spending
Speaker 1: ten hours at this facility every day going forward to
Speaker 1: make sure I'm prepared. Like he is. He is a worker,
Speaker 1: and you said I'm here to work. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I think part of that, You know, when you when
Speaker 1: you've been spending so many years and his kids are teenagers,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, when you're spending so many years playing football,
Speaker 1: which means your kids haven't had the benefit of you
Speaker 1: being around, and then you have a year where you
Speaker 1: can actually be around, he probably didn't have time to
Speaker 1: think about football or miss football because he's so wrapped
Speaker 1: up in being a dad, because you know how it
Speaker 1: is being a dad. It's time consuming, right, And so
Speaker 1: I get that part. And I just look at it like,
Speaker 1: are you willing to work now? And it sounds like
Speaker 1: he is a worker. It sounds like he's coming in
Speaker 1: the building like I'm here to work, and I'm here
Speaker 1: to provide what I can for this team. So for me,
Speaker 1: I tell us what you did in third and three
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars and he catches a six six Shart
Speaker 1: pass to win the game, or you know, yeah, get
Speaker 1: a first down. No, yes, here, I think that Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham has lost all his leverage because we've seen teams
Speaker 1: now start to sign guys. Buffalo goes and gets Cold Beasley,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys go get t Y Hilton. You know, they're
Speaker 1: kind of in that. They're kind of in that mode
Speaker 1: now where like people are like, listen, we're moving on,
Speaker 1: but if you want to, if you wanted to be
Speaker 1: a part, the one team that's willing to kind of
Speaker 1: keep going here is Dallas. That's the one team. What
Speaker 1: did you hear Buffalo? Buffalo how a statement? Yesterdy? I
Speaker 1: think it was their GM. That's it. That they haven't
Speaker 1: closed the door on Odell either. Okay, Well, so the
Speaker 1: interesting part becomes like are they like, if it falls
Speaker 1: to us, you know, we might consider it, or they
Speaker 1: like we still are in this thing. Like that's the
Speaker 1: part where you don't really know how committed they are
Speaker 1: to trying to get a d I didn't hear the
Speaker 1: statement yesterday, but if that's the kid, because it to
Speaker 1: me it appeared that teams were starting to go away
Speaker 1: and Dallas was the one that was just going to
Speaker 1: hang in there and and maybe make this work. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Like I said, it's it's one
Speaker 1: of those things that Odell needs to make the decision.
Speaker 1: But he needs to make it fast. He needs to
Speaker 1: make that we don't. I mean, like you start to
Speaker 1: talk of people around the league about Okay, when could
Speaker 1: you think you come back? And they're like, if they're
Speaker 1: thinking this is like an eight week injury or seven
Speaker 1: week injury, they just wasted a week, you know, where
Speaker 1: he could have been here on Monday, signed veteran minimum
Speaker 1: and they could have started into the rehab process. You know,
Speaker 1: every week that he's not doing this and he's an
Speaker 1: Arizona trying to rehab, it's not helping him, nor it's
Speaker 1: helping the Dallas Cowboys. You know, I'd love to know.
Speaker 1: I'd love to know if if if the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: still interested as they said they are. Is this thing
Speaker 1: being held up by OBJ or is this thing being
Speaker 1: held up by the Cowboys or both? Is there some
Speaker 1: lynchpin that's kind of we can't do that, or I
Speaker 1: think size we don't know the player. Yeah, I wonder
Speaker 1: where that that lies, because it sounds like everybody wants
Speaker 1: it right, there's one person in the world that knows
Speaker 1: how Obj's knee really is. Yeah, and I think that
Speaker 1: that's what the hold up is. I think he knows
Speaker 1: that he's not there and you know, and he can
Speaker 1: push this on, well, how how hard are you willing
Speaker 1: to work to come back? Because if you know, if
Speaker 1: you you know, if you're out there in Arizona working
Speaker 1: with your guy. And I'm not saying the guy or
Speaker 1: the gall out there that's rehabbing him as bad at
Speaker 1: their job. I'm just saying, I know this guy here,
Speaker 1: being with him for fourteen years, I've seen what he's
Speaker 1: done too players to getting get Brown, to get him
Speaker 1: back to playing again. And if there's you know, if
Speaker 1: if Odell was smart or somebody was smart, they would
Speaker 1: get to Odell and said, listen, this guy is one
Speaker 1: of the best rehab guys in the league. You know
Speaker 1: he is going to work your rear off to get back. Now,
Speaker 1: the problem is, does Odell want to work to get
Speaker 1: back or does he want to do it on his terms,
Speaker 1: because that guy, that trainer there, he will go and
Speaker 1: get in your face and say, if you don't want
Speaker 1: to do this, I ain't coming out here every day
Speaker 1: he wants you have to. It's a it's a it's
Speaker 1: not a one way street with him now. And I
Speaker 1: trust me fourteen years of being around that cat and
Speaker 1: you've seen him. You go to toe to toe with
Speaker 1: Bill Parcels. Yeah, like he doesn't care about it. Oh
Speaker 1: b J. You know he'll say whatever he needs to say. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the question here. You know, is Odell
Speaker 1: trying to come in and maybe join a team. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying steal a championship. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: because this has got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1: But you know, just be a part of something special
Speaker 1: here and you know the Cowboys can. Also there's a
Speaker 1: flip side to it as well. The guy never plays
Speaker 1: a down for you. It doesn't work out, and then
Speaker 1: he becomes a free agent, he signs a big deal, man,
Speaker 1: you get a comp so which is valuable. It's valuable,
Speaker 1: especially if he gets a big way this team drafts. Sure, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's ways to use each other. If
Speaker 1: that's that's the right term. Yeah, everybody can get a
Speaker 1: little something out. He could really win if he gets
Speaker 1: here quick enough because he can get rehab and then
Speaker 1: when Marsh rolls around it, people are if he wants
Speaker 1: to go out, his knee will be ready to go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean his he will be ready to go for people.
Speaker 1: He could actually work out for somebody, and somebody think
Speaker 1: can give him a big contract. All right, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys off its Brian. What do they do best
Speaker 1: on defense? They will try and knock you unconscious in
Speaker 1: that secondary and that they I watched that Kansas City
Speaker 1: game and yeah, they these guys will hit. Now, they
Speaker 1: give up yards, They'll give up some yards and they
Speaker 1: you know, they're best players. Nicked up Traybon Walker from
Speaker 1: George's one of their best players. He was drafted first
Speaker 1: overall and so I mean he about him he is now,
Speaker 1: he is a good player. They stand him up, they
Speaker 1: put his hand down. He's number forty four. Uh, they're
Speaker 1: gonna move him around. They're gonna try and find spots
Speaker 1: where he can rush. I'm super impressed with him coming
Speaker 1: out of Georgia and you'd look at him, the length,
Speaker 1: the ability to bend, finish all those things him. Josh
Speaker 1: Allen number forty one on the other side, those are
Speaker 1: kind of their pass rush guys. Uh. If you if
Speaker 1: you remember Chase on that the Cowboys in the cd
Speaker 1: LAMB draft. Uh. In twenty twenty Remember the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: talking about Chason from LSU. He hasn't been playing very
Speaker 1: much at all, so it's kind of a it's kind
Speaker 1: of a front that you can you can pass block
Speaker 1: these guys, but you have to be able to handle
Speaker 1: Alan and you have to be able to handle Walker.
Speaker 1: Those are the two guys been game. Edge guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those edge guys, And like I say, they use Walker
Speaker 1: as really he's like a linebacker is what he is.
Speaker 1: So you'll have him standing up, you'll have him, you'll
Speaker 1: have him with a hand on the ground. But I was,
Speaker 1: I was. I know their secondary doesn't cover particularly well,
Speaker 1: but what they're doing is like there their guys, like
Speaker 1: I mentioned Andre Cisco, the free safety, he is a
Speaker 1: blow them up guy. Rashawn Jenkins is another guy. He's
Speaker 1: like he's taking the approach of trying to rip the
Speaker 1: ball out of your hand. Remember last week with Jalen
Speaker 1: Petrie from Houston. That type of player. They're gonna hold
Speaker 1: you up, try and rip the ball out of your hands,
Speaker 1: but they're also going to, like a mentioned, try and
Speaker 1: knock you out is something that they're they're really really
Speaker 1: big on hitting in the secondary. But you see you
Speaker 1: see them. They struggle with stuff in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field and then they struggle on stuff on the outside,
Speaker 1: especially when it comes from one side to the other.
Speaker 1: They leave up a lot of open space there. So
Speaker 1: if you're thinking about if you could hold up cowboys
Speaker 1: like to max protect those those deep crossing routes. They
Speaker 1: try to do it on Houston in the first play
Speaker 1: of the game and ended up throwing it to Zeke
Speaker 1: for that that game first play on offense. But you
Speaker 1: could get stuff across the field on them, but you
Speaker 1: just got to make sure that you you uh, you
Speaker 1: protect your front with those two guys, Alan and Walker,
Speaker 1: and then be very aware head on the swivel for
Speaker 1: Cisco Jenkins and these guys that like to hit in
Speaker 1: the secondary. If you had to say one guy that
Speaker 1: was the that's the wall though, the guy that you
Speaker 1: could go after and exploit. Who is it? I think
Speaker 1: like when when I when I was watching them play,
Speaker 1: it was it was Tyson Campbell was a guy that
Speaker 1: he's number thirty two that they kind of because it's
Speaker 1: funny the position. He's a corner. He's the corner. And
Speaker 1: now they have a guy named a linebacker. I need
Speaker 1: to mention him. Chad Muma is a linebacker. He's he's
Speaker 1: nicked up right now. But if he plays him and
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd, Devin Lloyd, the two guys that you know.
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd was also a first round pick. Good player,
Speaker 1: I mean a really good player, but you know he's
Speaker 1: kind of learning along the way. Him and Chad Muma.
Speaker 1: They got a good young linebacker crew is what they have.
Speaker 1: But there are times where they get a little too overaggressive.
Speaker 1: So when you start to say take advantage ball, go
Speaker 1: show one way, ball, come back the other way, kind
Speaker 1: of a thing exactly exactly. And you know, now you've
Speaker 1: got Tyrn Smith back over there on that on that side.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens at the guard spot. But man,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of work behind that work behind that group.
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see what happens at the right
Speaker 1: tackle spot going forward here for the for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: because I think they lost something with Chad with what's
Speaker 1: gonna be with Terrence Steele being out and Martin they
Speaker 1: were doing a really good job in the running game.
Speaker 1: Let's see if they can kind of replace that that ability.
Speaker 1: Maybe they could do it with power with Peters. We'll
Speaker 1: see what they do with ball as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've got some practices to kind of figure that out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, this is just going off
Speaker 1: of kind of hearsay. I don't know what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: and I know the Cowboys don't want to like throw
Speaker 1: out everything that they're going to do. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're hearing this too, But I wouldn't rule
Speaker 1: out Tyrn Smith on right tackle spot. It was kind
Speaker 1: of flirted around the other day and I was like,
Speaker 1: I just missed it, you know, because he's left tackles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's him, but it really comes down to who can
Speaker 1: do it because Tyler Smith hasn't ever been on that
Speaker 1: right side and Peters has been there just for a
Speaker 1: little bit. Tyrn did play it eleven years, talked about
Speaker 1: that earlier this week, So I'm just looking at all
Speaker 1: options and it's just kind of hearsay. I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: Maybe not this game, but when he plays against Philly,
Speaker 1: maybe Tyran Smith is your right tackle. There's just a
Speaker 1: lot of options out there. Well, I wouldn't to ask you,
Speaker 1: Brian a ball, how are they with like getting their
Speaker 1: hands on the balls, And yeah, the turnovers. Interceptions, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's there. You know, they say they're secondary. They
Speaker 1: do give up the yards. I didn't in the games
Speaker 1: I watched, I didn't see anything Turner watch. The turnovers
Speaker 1: for them were like they get down on the they
Speaker 1: get down near the goal line and then they're punching
Speaker 1: at the ball and stuff like that. They're a tackle gang,
Speaker 1: tackle and rip at the ball kind of team. So
Speaker 1: the games I watched, I didn't see any real you know,
Speaker 1: the interceptions or anything. But it was more like we're
Speaker 1: just trying to when you're standing up and running or moving,
Speaker 1: they're trying to rip the ball. They're trying to They're
Speaker 1: big on trying to get the head on the ball.
Speaker 1: That happened. What game was I watched? It was it
Speaker 1: was a Kansas City game where Kansas City is driving
Speaker 1: and they you know, they tackle the ball and they're
Speaker 1: ripping at it and the next time you know, they
Speaker 1: get a guy there there Alan gets his head on
Speaker 1: the ball and it knocks it out. So it's a fumble.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they but they it's it's weird because like
Speaker 1: you say, there's some big plays against this group. I
Speaker 1: just didn't see the turnovers that you know that you
Speaker 1: think that teams would try and they're creating it by
Speaker 1: trying to like knock balls loose instead of maybe get
Speaker 1: th interceptions. Nick, you brought up Tyron Smith. It looks
Speaker 1: like he's going to be back and playing this weekend.
Speaker 1: I want to go around the table, give me your
Speaker 1: starting five. I want to take it from two different perspectives.
Speaker 1: One you said Tyron Smith, Tyrn Tyrn Did I say
Speaker 1: something else? I just confirmed yes, yes, Tyrn Smith appears
Speaker 1: to be ready to play this week. Right, So that
Speaker 1: being said, I like you give me two different two
Speaker 1: different things. What should happen. I'm talking the starting five
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. What do you think will happen?
Speaker 1: So I need those two. Let's start first with you?
Speaker 1: What game this one? Jacksonville? Yeah, sure, let's talk about
Speaker 1: this week. I do think there's you think there's a
Speaker 1: difference between this week and next two? Okay, so you
Speaker 1: can give me four if you want to start started there.
Speaker 1: I mean, just we can do it collectively. In on Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: I mean Tyler Smith plays at left tackle. Tyler Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith plays at left tackle, Okay, regardless when they do
Speaker 1: with Tyrant, I think that they're gonna east Tyrant into it.
Speaker 1: That's what I believe. So so you don't you're saying
Speaker 1: starting it won't be Tyrant necessarily. I don't think. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he doesn't necessarily get in at play some point,
Speaker 1: I think I think it's time tell me who your
Speaker 1: right tackles. We're gonna go that way. Okay, just tell
Speaker 1: me who your right tackle is gonna be. You for Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: for Jacksonville, Peters Depe, I don't know. I really don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what's what do you think should happen. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about Okay, if Tyron is playing this weekend and then
Speaker 1: you got Peters on the other side, I just I
Speaker 1: don't think they would both maybe play the whole game.
Speaker 1: So maybe now you got them starting, and then as
Speaker 1: the game goes, then you plug in Tyler to replace
Speaker 1: Tyron and then maybe allow Josh Ball to depending how
Speaker 1: the game is going. I know you're making a I
Speaker 1: don't like ball. I don't like ball, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: it just it depends how the game is going. And
Speaker 1: if Jason Peters can go the whole game, that's I
Speaker 1: think the biggest question for a veteran guy like him
Speaker 1: and his age. It's like, I like where you were going,
Speaker 1: but but I'm gonna switch it. I like, left side.
Speaker 1: Don't even touch the left side right now, Yeah, Tyler Connor,
Speaker 1: don't even touch that right side. Peters starts, Tyrn comes
Speaker 1: in there. If that's what he's gonna do. He comes
Speaker 1: in and plays, and then he ends up getting some
Speaker 1: work and then is ready to play the Eagles game.
Speaker 1: And your swing tackle is gonna be Jason Peters, that's maybe.
Speaker 1: And then you don't even have to touch the left side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think about that. I'll tell you, I like what
Speaker 1: you're doing. But I'm gonna go with a combination of
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Tyrn Smith, I'm gonna transition in him easy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and make it where I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: put him at right He hadn't played all year, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna say I'm gonna put him into
Speaker 1: position that he naturally plays, which you're you know, you're saying, well,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe left tackle this week, maybe right tackle next
Speaker 1: week once you get him back acclimated. But I think,
Speaker 1: to me, the way I would play it was Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith at at left tackle, Connor McGovern at left guard,
Speaker 1: and then on the right side. I would take Peters
Speaker 1: and Smith and maybe acclimate Tyler Smith and acclimate him
Speaker 1: to get some right tackle work. But you're not taxing
Speaker 1: a forty year old man to have to play sixty
Speaker 1: five plays, So now tiring play the whole game. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start off with that. Yeah, Now, maybe that's that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I know it's a kind of a
Speaker 1: dangerous thing to deal with, but I feel like though
Speaker 1: the way he looks physically right now, I'm kind of like,
Speaker 1: let's go with this. I worry less about him not
Speaker 1: playing than I do a forty year old man playing
Speaker 1: seventy plays. That's how I'm working at looking at it
Speaker 1: right now, and I'm trying to help Tyler Smith not
Speaker 1: get overly exposed at right tackle if that's the case.
Speaker 1: And you know, that's where I kind of look at
Speaker 1: it and I say, I would take kind of a
Speaker 1: hybrid of what you guys are saying. I would actually
Speaker 1: start tiring on the right side. And I say it
Speaker 1: earlier in the week. I think that's the best option
Speaker 1: for me at right tackle is just because I get
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Brian like he's been out, so you
Speaker 1: want to kind of get him back where he's mostly
Speaker 1: I'm not messing with his footwork and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: But for me, I look at it and say, I
Speaker 1: think he's probably the person that if you want to
Speaker 1: have some muscle memory, at least he did it at
Speaker 1: some point for a period of time to where if
Speaker 1: he does it a little bit, it might come back
Speaker 1: to him. For the others, they're working from a point
Speaker 1: of not having done it, like literally not having done
Speaker 1: it enough to have any muscle memory at all. So
Speaker 1: for me, I think I would go with Tyring at right.
Speaker 1: I would stick with Tyler at left. And what I
Speaker 1: would do in this game is I would actually bring
Speaker 1: Peters in at right tackle some just to spell, because
Speaker 1: again I don't want Tyrant to play the whole game.
Speaker 1: I don't want Jason to play the whole game. So
Speaker 1: for me, I kind of am using those two guys
Speaker 1: over on the right side, and it gives it gives
Speaker 1: me an opportunity to give Jason some reps there see
Speaker 1: how he does on the right, because if I want
Speaker 1: him to be my swing, I wanted to be able
Speaker 1: to play right as well. And it gives me an
Speaker 1: opportunity to give Tyring some opportunities at the right tackle spot,
Speaker 1: get him back acclimated. And my hope is that by
Speaker 1: next week we can roll in with him being on
Speaker 1: the right side. And the great point I love about
Speaker 1: it is I still keep developing Tyler Smith as my
Speaker 1: left tackle because he's my left tackle the future. I
Speaker 1: think Tyler Smith's getting word myself. Yeah, last game was
Speaker 1: his last couple of games. They've been they've been a
Speaker 1: little little rough. Yeah, And I was gonna say that
Speaker 1: scenario really scares me because you mentioned muscle memory. And
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call Tyrn Smith fragile because he's a
Speaker 1: beast and a machine, but you you, if you're referring
Speaker 1: mentioning muscle memory, keep him at the most recent position
Speaker 1: he's been at and his brain and his body can
Speaker 1: remember and work out. Because any little thing that's outside
Speaker 1: of his quote unquote comfort zone I think makes him
Speaker 1: more prone to an error or him slipping or maybe
Speaker 1: he didn't turn his feet or foot where he needed
Speaker 1: to be. And then now, because this is a guy
Speaker 1: I got injured at practice, Yeah, so I'm saying keep
Speaker 1: him where he's best at and don't even risk any
Speaker 1: possibility of mistake or something that he's not accustomed to.
Speaker 1: I get that. What I don't know because I've never
Speaker 1: played left tackle and I haven't played right tackle either. Actually, um,
Speaker 1: what I do, what I'm what I what I do
Speaker 1: look at is is this is it like riding a bike? Right?
Speaker 1: I went and rode a bike about a year ago.
Speaker 1: I had not ridden a bike probably in thirty years.
Speaker 1: Your but hurt? No, it didn't. I was fine, but
Speaker 1: but literally the first minute felt a little awkward. By
Speaker 1: minute too, it was like, this is what I did.
Speaker 1: Like I say, I asked this like a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and you were the one who said, no, it's no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it is it is. But what I'm saying is the
Speaker 1: muscle memory, and it is different. It is, It's very different.
Speaker 1: But my point is, my point is if he's done
Speaker 1: it before, and if it's like riding a bike to
Speaker 1: where all it takes is a little bit for you
Speaker 1: to then for your body to remember, oh I remember
Speaker 1: what this feels like, then it is easier. It's much
Speaker 1: easier for him. And that's instance. Then say Jason Peters,
Speaker 1: who's never done it, he doesn't have the muscle memory,
Speaker 1: so he's having to build that muscle memory from scratch
Speaker 1: rather than somebody like Hirn who has done it before
Speaker 1: for a period of time. So maybe his body, his
Speaker 1: body can just after a little bit of time, can say,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I remember this. This feels natural to me. Right,
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying, because I do think it's a
Speaker 1: big difference left to right. If I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look at them. I mean, I'm wondering, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: check that. I'm maybe I need to just walk by
Speaker 1: the window today. Yeah, I'll come over to your office.
Speaker 1: I'll come over to your desk and I'll just kind
Speaker 1: of hang out and kind of just casually look over
Speaker 1: because I think that will tell you. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't I think it'd been open to the media, but
Speaker 1: I would say, I mean, I get it. I've never
Speaker 1: played either left tackle or right tackle either or not.
Speaker 1: I haven't. But the thing is is just block the
Speaker 1: sob in front of you. I mean seriously, I mean,
Speaker 1: like you see drop step to the right. This guy's roll,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's rolling around here. The dude. That's nice to say, Nick,
Speaker 1: but I mean the coaches have even talked about like
Speaker 1: the left and right side players. I think there is
Speaker 1: something too. I get into it. There is something too.
Speaker 1: There's also something to just the heat of the moment.
Speaker 1: Jason Peters, with the game on the line, goes out there,
Speaker 1: muscle memory or not block this dude to make sure
Speaker 1: he doesn't hit Dak And that works for a few plays.
Speaker 1: Does that work when you have a full game where
Speaker 1: you're playing against a team that knows you're out of
Speaker 1: position and that knows, Okay, here's what we're gonna do
Speaker 1: to make it hard for him. I'll trust whatever Jacksonville
Speaker 1: wants to throw at a right tackle Jason Peters. I'll
Speaker 1: trust Jason Peters being out in the practice field for
Speaker 1: a full week working at it. I trust that better
Speaker 1: because if he can do that just a week after
Speaker 1: that against Philadelphia, if he doesn't have adrenaline to go
Speaker 1: block those dudes, then no adrenaline'll get you through the
Speaker 1: first series. Will it get you through all the series?
Speaker 1: That's the point where you start wondering, like adrenaline, adrenaline
Speaker 1: got balled through twenty eight plays, right, That's what I
Speaker 1: was about to say. Adrenaline can help Josh Ball get
Speaker 1: through it, do you well, Josh Ball. The only gold
Speaker 1: jacket he's gonna wear it was this one. Probably okay,
Speaker 1: he can't fit the probably not, but that's okay. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is is Hall of Famers figure it
Speaker 1: outed and I think they can absolutely, absolutely, And that's
Speaker 1: all you right now. See Tyrn Smith and Zack Martin
Speaker 1: on the same side. Yeah, that would be kind of fun. Look, man,
Speaker 1: how many somebody I saw an article this morning? Was
Speaker 1: that on our website? It was somewhere. You don't read
Speaker 1: our website. I do, I do. I saw it on Twitter.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm asking me where it was. But it
Speaker 1: was saying something to the effect of how many teams
Speaker 1: have had the benefit of having three Hall of Famers
Speaker 1: on their offensive line on the field at the same time.
Speaker 1: That's what Dallas is looking at now. Of course you
Speaker 1: questioned about the age and all that stuff, but still
Speaker 1: it's three Hall of Famers, bona fide hall of famers
Speaker 1: that'll be on the field together on the offensive. I
Speaker 1: know the third Will McClay, and that group's already kind
Speaker 1: of looking at the twenty twenty three draft and their
Speaker 1: offensive lineman if there's a guy named Tyler or Smith.
Speaker 1: Stre Connor put them off the board in the box.
Speaker 1: So we're just tired of them. And we got two
Speaker 1: Tylers and two Smiths. I'll tell you what you need. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how you feel about this, I'll tell you the thing
Speaker 1: about it is, whatever you do, I would I would
Speaker 1: test it now and then go with it in Philadelphi. You, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I would do. Yeah, Yeah, I wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't jack around to try this game at Jacksonville. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be is Dallas better game. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a tough game. It's going to be a fight.
Speaker 1: Just be ready for that. They are, they are playing
Speaker 1: for something down there. I know their head coach, they're
Speaker 1: excited about it. They know they're gonna be probably a
Speaker 1: road team in their own stadium. But you know that
Speaker 1: coach knows about what it takes to play against it,
Speaker 1: and they're a tough, pesky team. That's so. Yeah. With
Speaker 1: that being said, though, you better kind of figure out
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do with Josh Sweat, Fletcher Cox, Lynnville,
Speaker 1: Joseph Hargrave, Reddick Graham. That's where you quit that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's going to be. I don't know, but that's what
Speaker 1: you better. Whatever you're working on, Dan, Yeah, whatever you're
Speaker 1: working on right now, you better make sure it's getting
Speaker 1: ready for Christmas Eve. But thirty points is not going
Speaker 1: to win this game against Jacksonville. I don't believe. Really,
Speaker 1: I don't believe. So I'll be may gonna need a
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Speaker 1: they need. They're gonna need to score some parts in
Speaker 1: this game, and there's no doubt about it. Then get
Speaker 1: up there, quarterbacks, plain well for them. Really, Yeah, let's
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Speaker 1: let's let's let's focus. Let's focus, all right. Melvin Brownlee
Speaker 1: as a question for us, his question is where is
Speaker 1: Tach McKinley. What's going on with Tack McKinley. We expect
Speaker 1: to see him play much about a week ago after
Speaker 1: guess yea and introduced him to the ground. He's on
Speaker 1: the practice squad and you know, they haven't called him
Speaker 1: up yet, and I guess we can wait and see
Speaker 1: what Dorance Armstrong's Yeah, ability is gonna be availability. Sorry,
Speaker 1: are you hearing about him? Because he had the boot
Speaker 1: on Sunday. He told you that it didn't seem like
Speaker 1: he was a big deal, like a big deal in
Speaker 1: the boots off, and uh, he was kind of running
Speaker 1: from the media. You know, they were trying to talk
Speaker 1: to him and he was kind of swimming through people.
Speaker 1: That's good, Yeah, that's true. You know, media is not
Speaker 1: that quick, you know, so he made it, but uh, post,
Speaker 1: you know, he's limited and and and this is a
Speaker 1: big day of practice. We'll find out this week. I
Speaker 1: have a feeling he's gonna play Doran, so that means
Speaker 1: McKinley probably stays on the practice quad. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: hearing the same. Think Nick's absolutely right about that they're
Speaker 1: going to try and get him through practice. But it
Speaker 1: was likely that he was going to be able to play,
Speaker 1: but they had to get him through practice first. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a question from Mark Marshall. Does Damon Clark
Speaker 1: have the ability to blitz anything? Yes, I think he does.
Speaker 1: But what they want to do is I think he's
Speaker 1: you know, the courage aspect for him has been a
Speaker 1: little shaky and you know, awareness I think is you
Speaker 1: know something that I wouldn't say that it's not he
Speaker 1: It's like he doesn't have a feel for where when
Speaker 1: he turns, what he's seeing, where the guys are behind him,
Speaker 1: and how he needs to You watch Layton Vanders play,
Speaker 1: I know Vandrush as a veteran like play drop turn
Speaker 1: look Carrie, you know, and Clark's a little bit of that.
Speaker 1: Oh now, I got to go all about the fact
Speaker 1: that he just has like he does. That's that's the problem.
Speaker 1: That's but he's getting reps and people like. But but
Speaker 1: now Barr is like kind of picked his game up
Speaker 1: a little bit since he's been out, so now it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, if you kind of split him,
Speaker 1: it's fine. But yeah, Clark cam Blitz, I don't think
Speaker 1: he has that. I don't think he's just more power.
Speaker 1: He's just gonna He doesn't have that that that wiggle
Speaker 1: what you want. When you watch Parsons rush, it's like
Speaker 1: he's got that power, but he's also got that little
Speaker 1: bit of that move to get you off balance and
Speaker 1: to get I think Clark is more of a straight
Speaker 1: ahead hope the back is on him and he could
Speaker 1: just overpower the back and get home. But yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't see him do it very much, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: I have a question actually from Nicker frisco um. Is
Speaker 1: this Layton vander Esh's best season. I'll tell you what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's better than his rookie years he was he was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a Pro Bowl as rookie year. I will say
Speaker 1: this about him. In those games where it turns into
Speaker 1: you got to stop the back, they have nothing else
Speaker 1: but a runner he is. He's a champ. And I
Speaker 1: and I said about the coverage stuff, like when the
Speaker 1: ball has gone to the perimeter, he shown burst to
Speaker 1: get out there. Even when the ball's thrown out there,
Speaker 1: get burst and knocked the guy to keep it. Oh,
Speaker 1: now it's third and two or third and one. You know,
Speaker 1: he's tackled really, really well. I think early in the
Speaker 1: year with some of the perimitive runs that had, he
Speaker 1: was trying to make up for guys playing around him.
Speaker 1: You're like, you know, all, okay, I'm now trying to
Speaker 1: do my responsibility, your responsibility as we have a soft
Speaker 1: corner over here, you know. Okay. Finally overcame the neck
Speaker 1: injury because confident. Yeah, just the confidence. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: even last year you would see him and it's just
Speaker 1: didn't he didn't have that willingness to actually go and tackle,
Speaker 1: like there was always like some kind of hesitation or
Speaker 1: a few steps behind. And now he seems like he's
Speaker 1: comfortable again to maybe where the neck is in his
Speaker 1: mind not necessarily physically bothering him, but also mentally where
Speaker 1: he can just play freely around. You mentioned that you
Speaker 1: mentioned about him. It was funny last week in the
Speaker 1: game him at Clark, like and this is how well
Speaker 1: vanders just playing though Clark both of them see at
Speaker 1: the same time. But you see the young guy just
Speaker 1: run right past. Layton's hustling to get over, but Clark
Speaker 1: like covers like like five yards behind, and now he's
Speaker 1: covering to go get the ball. Layton would have made
Speaker 1: the play, Clark just read at the same time and
Speaker 1: went to him. So you know, that's what that's what
Speaker 1: you're hoping that these linebackers continue to kind of play
Speaker 1: that way. The one thing I wonder about with that, though,
Speaker 1: is I do I don't think it's a coincidence that
Speaker 1: we've seen over the last few weeks Layton's play really elevate.
Speaker 1: And it's also at the time when Hankins was playing
Speaker 1: really well for the Cowboys. I wonder how much that's
Speaker 1: going to affect his ability to play because he's been free,
Speaker 1: he's been free to run because Hankins is gobbling up
Speaker 1: double teams, I mean just gobbling them up and not
Speaker 1: moving with it. If that changes and now you're washing
Speaker 1: out the defensive tackle and he's now in the lap
Speaker 1: of the linebacker, I just I think that's been one
Speaker 1: of the biggest challenges for Layton vanderbsh for much. Let's
Speaker 1: let's see what Anthony Rushed, who they signed on the
Speaker 1: practice squad in And I was talking to some guys
Speaker 1: around the league about him real quick as we finish
Speaker 1: up here. Uh, this guy's kind of had a weight
Speaker 1: problem in his life. You know, he's he gets up
Speaker 1: like three hundred and eighty and then he gets to
Speaker 1: three sixty and then now they're thinking he's like three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds. And I know two of my
Speaker 1: scout buddies are of like, listen, we worked him out
Speaker 1: before he went to Philadelphia, and they said that he
Speaker 1: really really is a powerful guy, and he could play
Speaker 1: the run really well. And he plays across the center.
Speaker 1: And when I mean play across the center, he's just
Speaker 1: not standing in one spot letting the grass die under
Speaker 1: his feet. He's moving and that's what Hankins has been
Speaker 1: able to do. Hankins has been like active to where
Speaker 1: he's moving around. So now he's taken up blocks and
Speaker 1: he's moving around. So maybe that with Rush, we'll see
Speaker 1: if they can get my guy. My guy said, listen,
Speaker 1: sign this guy, get him ramped up. He can help
Speaker 1: you out. This is a massive man. He's six to
Speaker 1: five they're hearing fifty pounds. Yeah, so, well he was
Speaker 1: three eighty one time. They said he was too heavy
Speaker 1: when they were working him out and they sent him away.
Speaker 1: That's why Philadelphia cut him off the practice squad because
Speaker 1: he got too heavy. And now he's down to three
Speaker 1: to three fifty from three eighty and they're hoping that
Speaker 1: But my guys were super super positive about him as
Speaker 1: a possible signing. It's a sad part about the Hankins
Speaker 1: injury is that, you know, they made that trade on
Speaker 1: October twenty fifth, nine days after they lost to the Eagles,
Speaker 1: and they couldn't stop the run in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field, you know, so they were bringing him in
Speaker 1: to try to help with that. You know, you stop
Speaker 1: Sanders and all that, and you guys go hit, hit,
Speaker 1: hurts and whatever he's doing. And they really wanted to
Speaker 1: control the middle. So not saying that they can't, but
Speaker 1: Hankins I think was brought in to try to help
Speaker 1: in that and he has. He has helped, but it's
Speaker 1: unfortunately won't play in that game. Yeah, that's what they
Speaker 1: needed him for. Yeah, maybe he comes back around for
Speaker 1: the playoffs if you have to face them again, all right,
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys. Jonas went back tomorrow. We're gonna wrap
Speaker 1: this thing up. Let you know what thing's gonna happen
Speaker 1: this weekend. So then for Nick Eatman, Brian brought us
Speaker 1: Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagles and this is The Break
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