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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, welcome to the program. Great to have you

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Speaker 1: on board tonight. Mark VanderMeer and John Harris with you,

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Speaker 1: and later on in the show, Jonathan Alexander from the

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Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle as all three of us and several more,

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Speaker 1: many more. We're watching Mini Camp today for your Texans,

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Speaker 1: and Mini camp OTAs basically boiled down to this. It's practice, practice,

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Speaker 1: it's practice. Mini camp is mandatory. OTAs are voluntary. But

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Speaker 1: OTA's had a lot of people there. It was about

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Speaker 1: ninety five percent or whatever, maybe more than that participation.

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Speaker 1: Some guys are rehabbing injuries. With Mini camp, everybody's got

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Speaker 1: to be here, and they were, and some guys still

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Speaker 1: rehabbing various ailments. Whatever they're rehabbing, and I hope I

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Speaker 1: would think they would be good to go for training camp.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that later, but Johnny, the big headline

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Speaker 1: of the day is CJ. Stroud throwing darts out there.

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Speaker 1: Great to see him back in action. A lot of

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Speaker 1: you have seen some of the footage, dare I call

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Speaker 1: it some of the highlights on social media. I tweeted

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Speaker 1: one of them out Stroud throw to Jaydon Higgins. Very nice, indeed,

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Speaker 1: and It's just such a difference when you see your

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Speaker 1: virtuoso quarterback out there, one of the very best in

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Speaker 1: the league, throwing the football, making things happen, lifting everybody's spirits.

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Speaker 1: Nothing against the other guys, but you got Stroud back

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Speaker 1: in the fold, back in the hole, throwing the rock.

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Speaker 2: And it's fun to watch. Yeah, it is fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the it's one of our guilty pleasures

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Speaker 3: just getting the opportunity to watch him throw. He's such

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Speaker 3: a I mean, he's such a beautiful thrower of the football.

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Speaker 2: I mean it is so wonderful.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a classic motion, but it's quick,

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Speaker 3: it's it's always on point, accurate. He talked about after

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Speaker 3: practice that he's a little rusty. I'm like, if that's rusty,

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Speaker 3: oh my gosh. So we went out for seven on seven.

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Speaker 3: Obviously he threw the They were doing routes on air

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Speaker 3: and things like that. To start today, got the seven

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Speaker 3: on seven first route, little combination route with Kate Stover running.

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Speaker 2: A corner out.

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Speaker 3: He spied it right away and put just a dive

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Speaker 3: right in. Stover didn't break to drive, Boom hit him.

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Speaker 3: They ran something similar later with Christian Kirk and another

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Speaker 3: just beautifully thrown ball Christian just I mean in it

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Speaker 3: he had in his hands. As he was trying to

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Speaker 3: collect himself, he fell to the ground and ball popped out.

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Speaker 3: And then the one that you talked about, the throw

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Speaker 3: to Higgins down the sidelines, and you know, one of

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Speaker 3: the things that we've been talking about with Jadane Higgins

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Speaker 3: and Noel and those Oh they're.

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Speaker 2: Not going against the ones right now. Today they were

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Speaker 2: going against the ones.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jaden was one on one against one of the

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Speaker 3: better man cover guys, not only in this team, in

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Speaker 3: this league, and Kamari Laster and last Yar was on

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Speaker 3: him really like you would expect him. I mean, it

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Speaker 3: was a shadow ball came down, Jade just stuck out

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Speaker 3: a left hand, one hand caught it in around five

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Speaker 3: yard line. He thought, huh okay, all right, the throw

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Speaker 3: the catch on that was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: I was just holy smokes.

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Speaker 3: Remember when CJ was a rookie and we watched CJ

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Speaker 3: and that I think it was week two, Week three,

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Speaker 3: votas were like, oh boy, this could get fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: watching him link up with Jayden Higgins a couple times gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: It was just really really fun. To watch he spins

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Speaker 3: it so well. I hope whatever was ailing him, if

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Speaker 3: it was just rest that.

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Speaker 2: Was needed, whatever it is. By the time we hit training.

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Speaker 3: Camp, they are hitting the ground running, and it looked

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Speaker 3: today like he hadn't missed a beat.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he didn't look worse to the wear.

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Speaker 3: Every throw, if it wasn't caught, it was in a

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Speaker 2: He was just what we've wanted to see. And so

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Speaker 2: now here's what we do.

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Speaker 3: Mark okay, Yeah, because for three weeks it was peer panic.

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Speaker 2: Do you have surgery?

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Speaker 4: Did you not?

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Speaker 2: You have procedure? You have something? What's going on? What

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Speaker 3: When we can see him. He's an a training camp.

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be lingering, He's gonna be I mean,

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Speaker 3: it was that. That's literally how it kind of sounded

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Speaker 2: I think he's okay, but I don't know. You just

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Speaker 2: want to see it. You just want to see it,

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Speaker 2: you know. It's like that little noise that gets me ears.

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Speaker 3: It's not loud, but it's it's enough to be uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: But you still wanted to go away, sure, like not

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Speaker 2: And then once you get out of there, you're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Way that we I know, I left the field today

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Speaker 3: thinking that that that was probably like you said, I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's the overarching thought of the day is Seven's back

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Speaker 3: and throwing, and we.

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Speaker 1: Can feel good about that. Absolutely. You mentioned Stover, We'll

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Speaker 1: get to him in a moment here. But Higgins, Higgins,

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Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks, you see the progression.

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Speaker 1: You see one week to the next to the next,

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Speaker 1: getting better, getting to be more of a part of it.

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Speaker 1: You still have Nico Collins over there, you got Christian Kirk.

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Speaker 1: Noel has been dealing with something. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it is, but let's see him get back out there

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Speaker 1: very soon. And I just think that between all those

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Speaker 1: Interesting guy and hard to imagine him not being on

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Speaker 1: this football team.

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Speaker 2: You never know what happens. Sure, but Higgins.

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Speaker 1: At his size, you have him and Nico Collins similarly heighted,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Higgins is going to be a rookie

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Speaker 1: out there facing his first NFL competition. But if this

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Speaker 1: progression is any indicator, I want to see it again

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Speaker 1: in camp. You know, we're going to get to the

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Speaker 1: a restart of sorts. It is a restart of sorts,

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Speaker 1: but we'll see how he progresses throughout camp preseason games.

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Speaker 2: He's going to play in them.

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Speaker 1: You get the feeling this could be a lot of fun,

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Speaker 1: especially when the tight ends are gonna be involved with stovers.

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Speaker 1: Schultz getting back into the fold because he's been dealing

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Speaker 1: with a little something, but participating out here in any

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Speaker 1: way shape he can man Hagen's Johnny. And look, we

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Speaker 1: went nuts for Noel when we first saw him out there,

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Speaker 1: So I have no doubt that Nol's gonna be good. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I just think he's gonna be at least a certain

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Speaker 1: level of player contributor with Hagen's. The ceiling is very

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Speaker 3: Be I think the ceiling is continuing to move higher too.

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Speaker 3: You know what we thought his ceiling could be. I

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Speaker 3: think it's it's even beyond that. What I found fascinating

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Speaker 3: the last two OTAs I'm sorry, the last two practices

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Speaker 2: To look at it.

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Speaker 3: The last two practices that we have been through. I've

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Speaker 2: That have.

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Speaker 3: That I've been standing by, that have kind of seen

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Speaker 3: it's you know, it's amazing to get that kind of

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Speaker 3: confirma and you can see it with your eyes. But

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Speaker 3: then when it's the people that are in the building

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Speaker 3: know what's going on in football Ops because that's where

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Speaker 3: and then they just go on talking about him, whether

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Speaker 2: Qualities, any of that.

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Speaker 3: Like people have kind of turned me in like Higgins,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, yeah, yep, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I see it.

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Speaker 1: You can see it, but you know that they're confirming

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Speaker 1: they want to do. It's been kind of cool to

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Speaker 1: that young man is here in Houston.

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Speaker 3: He's made place. He wasn't the only cycle on making

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Speaker 3: place today. Xavier Hutchinson was great. He had a couple of.

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Speaker 1: Really nice He had one real nice rolling one to

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Speaker 1: get the Texans a first down.

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Speaker 2: I think it was third and long.

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Speaker 1: Yep, just a really great throw by CJ where only

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Speaker 1: himself being rusty. I think that was the result of

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Speaker 1: they changed out the receiver groups like hockey line shapes. Well,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's out there with Johnny Johnson

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Speaker 1: different to throw to those guys as opposed to Higgins, Nico,

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Speaker 1: Christian kirk uh And maybe the timing isn't quite there

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Speaker 2: To the football like some other guys would.

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Speaker 1: Who knows every incompletion tells a story, is a story

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Speaker 1: incompletions have stories too, don't incompletions they have stories, But

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Speaker 1: more often than not, they were complete, and they were spectacular.

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Speaker 1: They were fun. Stover's catching seven on seven. The thing

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Speaker 1: I loved about that was it's the I think it

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Speaker 1: check this one down and get my feet wet and

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Speaker 1: stick my toe with the water. He's like, you know

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Speaker 1: what I feel like throwing the rock downfield and showing

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Speaker 1: everybody you know it's going to be back downfield throwing.

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Speaker 1: This year, I had a great yard per completion, and

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three shrunk up a little bit. Twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four for various reasons. We're going downfield, let's do it,

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Speaker 1: let's hit the gas and he hits Stover on that

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Speaker 1: play and the one to Higgins was beautiful as well.

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Speaker 1: And look eleven on eleven, they tried some things. Uh,

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Speaker 1: there were some good plays by offense.

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Speaker 1: You know you're looking at that defense, Johnny, you know

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Speaker 1: Stroud and company get out there.

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Speaker 2: And then you're looking at Will and daneil on the edge.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're looking at Sheldons Tim Saddle and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a good front right there.

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Speaker 2: Rankins, Hello, welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so Rankins, I'm glad you brought him. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get the ranks a second. The very first

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Speaker 3: play of eleven on eleven was.

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Speaker 2: That the sweet the jet sweep thing. No, that was

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Speaker 2: Jared Wayne play.

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Speaker 3: Okay, first play eleven on eleven I think was a

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Speaker 3: got it, Like Will is just on it.

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Speaker 3: Nick was out of practice. Were number twenty one. It

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Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, if.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to keep everybody healthy.

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Speaker 1: I thought they were healthier this last postseason than they

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Speaker 1: Again, you hit the postseason healthy, some really great things

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Speaker 3: a shoulder into Dereck Henry. Hope we tackle him. No,

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Speaker 3: We're take him down like Cooper Degen, like Kamari Lasser

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Speaker 3: did last year. Yeap, wrap his ass up, tackle them

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Speaker 3: in the hansel like. We have to be physical and

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Speaker 3: answer against the Ravens because the last three times, actually

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Speaker 3: the last two times we've seen him late in the

440
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Speaker 3: year in the playoffs, we've not had our full compliment

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Speaker 3: offensive guys, you think about playing we face the Ravens

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Speaker 3: a few days after Tank went down for the year,

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Speaker 3: we'd already lost digs. We weren't a full boat offensively.

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Speaker 3: But there can't be any excuses this year, can't.

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Speaker 1: That's the team you're gonna have to beat not only

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Speaker 1: in the regular season, but also in the in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: So let's let let's go. Have we added the depth

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Speaker 2: and hope we we've done that.

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Speaker 3: We've given ourselves some depth pieces and we're deep in

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Speaker 3: a lot of positions and we can go against a

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Speaker 3: team like that and we can hit that.

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Speaker 2: Bully right in the mouth and they're gonna hit us back.

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Speaker 3: But then do we cower or do we stand up

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Speaker 3: and go we're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's the technique coaching, there's x's and o's, there's scheme,

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Speaker 1: and then there's the psychological part, which if you want

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Speaker 1: to be great, you're gonna have to deal with everything.

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Speaker 2: And I was talking to somebody about noon starts.

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Speaker 1: You know, when we've had the noon starts twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: noon starts all the way through twenty twenty three, virtually

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Speaker 1: all the way through noon starts. Yep, those were really

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Speaker 1: terrific seasons for this franchise. Ten win seasons each, twenty

463
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Speaker 1: eleven best team ever possibly, I don't know, but it's

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Speaker 1: a debate for another day. But the good teams are

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Speaker 1: gonna play these weird schedules with primetime games and short

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Speaker 1: weeks and lack of sleep and all that other stuff,

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Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have to turn it around on

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Speaker 1: four days like the Texans did between the Chiefs and

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Speaker 1: Ravens game last year, and they did not deal with

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Speaker 1: it well, to say the least against the Ravens on Christmas.

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Speaker 2: This year, you don't have stuff exactly like that.

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Speaker 1: You don't have that gauntlet at the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: but you do have some tough turnarounds, you do have

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Speaker 1: some tough prime time scheduling, you have some West Coast games,

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Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to live with it and deal

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Speaker 1: with it because that's what the good teams go through

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Speaker 1: every year. That's what the Chiefs go through every year.

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Speaker 1: Now they live in the middle of the country.

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Speaker 2: But so do we.

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Speaker 1: When you look at the Patriots, what they dealt with

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Speaker 1: when they were going good for two decades, they handled it.

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Speaker 1: You gotta handle it, you gotta handle the adversity. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna handle Our conversation with Jonathan Alexander next from the

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Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle.

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Speaker 2: He was out there today a mini camp. What did

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Speaker 2: he see.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to it with Jonathan next here on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: Back to it here on Texans Radio, Mark Vandermin and

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you. And it's Tuesday, and that means

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Speaker 1: we usually check in with Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle. Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: great to have your board Mini Camp day one. You

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Speaker 1: were there, you saw every thing, heard from everybody. So

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Speaker 1: what was your biggest takeaway or two from this morning's festivities.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think probably the biggest takeaway was obviously the

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Speaker 4: most obvious one was c J. Stroud was back. And

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Speaker 4: you know, just as Demico Ryans and Nick Kayley said,

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Speaker 4: they weren't concerned, and he didn't look like he had

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Speaker 4: any issues, you know, particularly what is throwing. He hit

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Speaker 4: some really nice passes like that first one he threw

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Speaker 4: to uh cased over and then to Jayden Higgins on

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Speaker 4: that deep go route. Both of those were perfect passes

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Speaker 4: in seven on seven drills. And you know, obviously he

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Speaker 4: said he was a little bit rusty, but you know,

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Speaker 4: I think the concern that a lot of fans had

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Speaker 4: that it was it was probably a deeper issue that

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Speaker 4: he had off season surgery. None of that was true,

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think it's a great sign that

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Speaker 4: he's back and and heed's developed in that chemistry.

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Speaker 3: You know, with his teammates today seems like a collective

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Speaker 3: sire relief from everybody. Media doesn't have to ask about

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Speaker 3: it anymore, or we don't have to ask about it.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have to answer to it, being able to

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Speaker 3: get those reps in mini camp. And he did say

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Speaker 3: he was a little bit sore afterwards, but rusty, but

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Speaker 3: got got through.

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Speaker 2: It and away we go.

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Speaker 3: So let's we went to the other news of the day,

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Speaker 3: or I guess maybe yesterday it became official Nick Chubb

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Speaker 3: is a Texan. Jonathan Alexander comment, go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was, you know, a pretty interesting

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Speaker 4: move to say the least. I think it speaks to

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Speaker 4: the fact that the Texans you know, knee depth, with

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Speaker 4: Damian Pierce and Joe Mixing both done with with injuries.

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Speaker 4: Don't know how long either of those guys will be out.

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Speaker 4: And you add a guy like Joe Mixon, who in

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Speaker 4: my opinion is a is a low risk, high reward player.

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Speaker 4: They didn't pay him a ton and and and you

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Speaker 4: know when Chubb was a when he before his injury

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, the knee injury, he was obviously

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Speaker 4: one of the top three running back in the league,

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Speaker 4: All Pro and he comes to this team and even

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Speaker 4: though he's not that same player, he could still potentially be,

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Speaker 4: you know, a big contributor to this team. Maybe a

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Speaker 4: running back too if he has still has a lot left.

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Speaker 4: So I thought it was a smart signing considering whether

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Speaker 4: it takes to go he could possibly at words. I

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Speaker 4: think it produces something like a Cam Akers type of

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Speaker 4: deal where you know, maybe he doesn't fit into the lineup,

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Speaker 4: but you get him as a good trade as set

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Speaker 4: down on line that's at worse, but at best he

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Speaker 4: could be a really good running back too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jonathan, I think it definitely changes well, there's no

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Speaker 1: question it changes the picture in the running back room.

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Speaker 2: But how do you think this might play out?

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Speaker 1: Because Damian Pierce not out there yet, but we get

546
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Speaker 1: a long way to go before he needs to be

547
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Speaker 1: out there practicing when training camp starts in late July,

548
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Speaker 1: and mix it as well, you don't play a game

549
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Speaker 1: for three months, you'd hope he'd be ready for the

550
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Speaker 1: opener at the Rams sooner preferably. And then you look

551
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Speaker 1: at drafting Ruddy Woody Marx and you look at Daria

552
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Speaker 1: Goobwally everything he's meant to this football team over the years.

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Speaker 1: How do you think this possibly plays out in that

554
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Speaker 1: position group.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's going to present a tough decision.

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Speaker 4: Let's just say, like all of them come back healthy.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be a really tough decision. You know, I'm

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Speaker 4: not as down on Damian Pierce as a lot of

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Speaker 4: people are, Like a lot of people for the past

560
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Speaker 4: two years have really wanted him gone. Talking with multiple

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Speaker 4: people within the organization, they don't dislike Damian Pierce. They

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Speaker 4: think he has value. Having said that, you add a

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Speaker 4: guy like nik Cha, if he's anywhere near where he

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Speaker 4: was before his injury, then that might be harmful to

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Speaker 4: a guy like Damian Pierce or Darray. I think the

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Speaker 4: Texans would then look at Okay, what do you value most?

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Speaker 4: Do you value the special teams value and the fact

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Speaker 4: that Darray can also catch the ball out of the backfield,

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Speaker 4: or do you value Damian Pierce's ability to be a

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Speaker 4: number one back if needed and he played special teams

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Speaker 4: his kick return. I think it'll come down to who

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Speaker 4: steps up in the training camp, but I think it'll

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Speaker 4: be It's gonna make for a tough decision for them.

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Speaker 3: Caronics You know a guy that we I would say

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent is gonna make this team is Jayden Higgins,

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Speaker 3: rookie out of Iowa State. It's hard to miss it

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Speaker 3: when he's out of practice, and it was very difficult

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Speaker 3: to miss him making plays in seven on seven. I

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Speaker 3: don't know where he ends up, whether he's a starter

580
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Speaker 3: or whether he's in the lineup eighty.

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Speaker 2: Percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I just know when I watch him, Jonathan,

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Speaker 3: that Jaden Higgins makes plays that's gonna make CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 3: and the quarterbacks very very happy that he's on the field.

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Speaker 3: With his size, his hands, his speed, it really kind

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Speaker 3: of showed off today in mini camp. Who thoughts about

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Speaker 3: kind of the outlook for Jaden Higgins. I know he's

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Speaker 3: the first rookie taken and he's number pick number thirty four,

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Speaker 3: but still kind of breaking into the lineup. You think

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Speaker 3: ah might take a little bit, Maybe that happens sooner

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Speaker 3: than later. Your thoughts about Jaden Higgins.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he had his best day today. You know, going

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Speaker 4: up against team pretty often, you know that his performance

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Speaker 4: today really reminded me of Kamari las Yer last year.

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Speaker 4: You remember Kamari last year had went up against Stefan

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Speaker 4: Diggs and really won that battle, and I think he

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Speaker 4: really opened up a lot of eyes of his teammates

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Speaker 4: and earned that startup position. And I see the same

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Speaker 4: kind of trajectory for a guy like Jaden Higgins, who

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Speaker 4: obviously has a size and knows what to do it,

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Speaker 4: has great hands, has good speed. He does remind me

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Speaker 4: a lot of Nico Conins, not in the sense he's

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Speaker 4: not where Nico coins is, but he has that potential.

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Speaker 4: So I do see him being that number two receiver

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Speaker 4: as long as he continues to do what he's doing,

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Speaker 4: because you know, I don't think you know, obviously you

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Speaker 4: got Christian Kirk in the slot, but I don't think

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen anybody else opposite of Nico Collins really

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Speaker 4: step up. But Jaden Higgins has been that guy.

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Speaker 1: And Jonathan Jonathan Alexander of the Houston Chronicle joining us.

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Speaker 1: Demiko Ryans was asked or he brought up Kate's Stover.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Kate Stover making that nice catch in seven

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Speaker 1: on seven, and it just seems so crisp with him. Now,

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Speaker 1: I know Schultz isn't getting every rep out there. He's

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Speaker 1: probably recovering from something or whatever. But Stover year one

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Speaker 1: to year two jump, the coach talked about it. They

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Speaker 1: all want to see it, and he talked about him

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Speaker 1: being more decisive or deliberate or sharper at the top

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Speaker 1: of the route. I'm probably wording that incorrectly, but your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on Stover heading into year two and what we

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Speaker 1: might expect from him in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean today, it was really noticeable how much

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Speaker 4: of a safety blanket he was for c J. Stroud

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Speaker 4: and team drills. Whenever Stroud didn't have somebody open, he'd

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Speaker 4: often looked for Stover. You know, they all they have

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Speaker 4: that history dating back to the Ohio State days. You know,

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Speaker 4: Stover is a guy who is one of the harder

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Speaker 4: workers on the team. I could really see him carving

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Speaker 4: out a big role for the scene, which would be

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Speaker 4: very necessary, especially as a number two tied end, and

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Speaker 4: stepping into that role and taking it over. Schulz is

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Speaker 4: obviously dealing with that leg injury. He's kind of been limited,

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Speaker 4: but participated a lot more today. But yeah, Stover was

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Speaker 4: one of the standouts. I was really surprised how often

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Speaker 4: CJ went to him in times of me when other

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Speaker 4: guys weren't open.

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Speaker 2: I was trying not to be a prisoner of the moment.

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Speaker 3: But during practice, every now and again, I'll pass by

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Speaker 3: Mark and we'll do, like you know, an over under.

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Speaker 3: And so we were talking about Stover and Mark said

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Speaker 3: over under thirty five receptions this year for Kate Stover

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Speaker 3: and without even finishing his since, I immediately went over

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Speaker 3: Jonathan forty catches over under for Kate Stover.

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Speaker 2: It's a big leap.

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Speaker 3: But I've said I thought that Kate can make that

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Speaker 3: big leap this year.

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Speaker 2: You're taken over under forty receptions.

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Speaker 4: I can see him going over, especially if he remains healthy.

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Speaker 4: And we know based on his past that Nick Keley

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Speaker 4: loves tight ends. Yeah, that's true, so I could usually

651
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Speaker 4: see you know, sover being a big factor. I'm going

652
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Speaker 4: to say, though, I'm going to take the over on that.

653
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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, that's two overs.

654
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to Kaitlyn Bullock another year one to

655
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Speaker 1: year two guy and another one the coach talked about

656
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Speaker 1: and he talked about squaring up on tackling and that

657
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Speaker 1: kind of thing.

658
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 2: We're all used to.

659
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Speaker 1: Kalyn Bullock being able to go get the football in

660
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Speaker 1: the air, but they want to see the development and

661
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Speaker 1: it looks like they're seeing it so far here in

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Speaker 1: Ota is in midiicamp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I wrote about Kaylin and Kamaraw a

664
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Speaker 4: little a couple of weeks ago, and those guys have

665
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Speaker 4: been working since season ended, and their confidences at an

666
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Speaker 4: all time high. And when he talked about Kamaraw, we

667
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Speaker 4: know how intense he is, especially in these moments. But

668
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Speaker 4: Kaitlyn is another guy, and obviously he has a unique

669
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Speaker 4: ability in his ballhawks skills, like he just is really

670
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Speaker 4: good at tracking the ball and intercepting, and he needed to,

671
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Speaker 4: you know, improve his tackle on ability and work on

672
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Speaker 4: his footwork, and that's obviously something that he put a

673
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Speaker 4: focus on this offseason. And I think you can have

674
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Speaker 4: another big year. And they're very much motivated by the

675
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Speaker 4: fact that they felt like they were slided and I

676
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Speaker 4: believe they were slided too in the Defensive Rookie of

677
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Speaker 4: the Year of voting. You know, I wasn't gonna say

678
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Speaker 4: they both deserved the word, but they deserve to be

679
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Speaker 4: one of those finalists. So yeah, I think you can

680
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Speaker 4: have a big year for another good year for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't ask pff about Kayln. They gave him. They

682
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Speaker 2: gave him an awful grade they did. Yeah, that was ridiculous.

683
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Speaker 2: I was. I was quite angry with that.

684
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Speaker 3: Now the other safety spot ends up being kind of interesting.

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Speaker 2: Chaunton Gardner Johnson c J.

686
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Speaker 3: Gardner Johnson was at practice at mini camp, learning on

687
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Speaker 3: the fly, learning things, spend a time with Steven Adagoke,

688
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Speaker 3: safety's coach, seeing I don't know why, I was thinking

689
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Speaker 3: the back of my mind, you know, maybe CJ is

690
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Speaker 3: not going to be there, but man, he was there

691
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Speaker 3: and diving in. What are your thoughts about how that

692
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Speaker 3: whole thing comes together and how you think CJ and

693
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Speaker 3: Kayln kind of play awful one another play together back

694
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Speaker 3: of those safety spots.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it'll be interesting because both of those guys aren't

696
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Speaker 4: really playing the box type of guys. Both of those

697
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 4: like to play in the backfield and hunt. And but

698
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Speaker 4: I think Demiko is smart enough where he knows how

699
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Speaker 4: to utilize his defensive players and his weapons the best

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Speaker 4: of their ability. You saw him use some three safety

701
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Speaker 4: sets last year, and you know, I think he'll put

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Speaker 4: those guys in a position and we know what Gardner

703
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Speaker 4: Johnson can do yet six interceptions last season, which would

704
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Speaker 4: have led the Texans. He has that Super Bowl experience

705
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Speaker 4: and I think he'll be a great addition for this

706
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Speaker 4: defense that's already really loaded in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Jonathan, since we're talking NFL, we're contractually obligated

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Speaker 1: to ask you about Aaron Rodgers on the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Here thoughts on that union happening.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I I think everybody expected it,

711
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: given that the Steelers didn't really target a quarterback in

712
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Speaker 4: the draft, which I thought was a mistake in itself,

713
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Speaker 4: but it just seemed inevitable for it to happen. And

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Speaker 4: you know, I think, you know, based on what I

715
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Speaker 4: saw from Aaron Rodgers last year, he was Okay. Does

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Speaker 4: he make the Steelers much better? I don't know. I

717
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 4: don't know that they become a team that makes any

718
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Speaker 4: noise in the playoffs. I think Aaron Rodgers days are

719
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Speaker 4: past him, but this move was inevitable, and I think

720
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Speaker 4: he makes them better than what they had previously before

721
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Speaker 4: they signed.

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Speaker 2: Okay, who gets signed first? TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt with the extension in Pittsburgh or Micah Parsons with

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Speaker 3: an extension in Dallas.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, that is a good question. I think it's

726
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Speaker 4: gonna be TJ Wytt. I think Micah is gonna want

727
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Speaker 4: to see what other guys get and try to top

728
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Speaker 4: those guys.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 4: And you know that's pretty consistent with what David Ghetta

731
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Speaker 4: has done for his clients. And I think at this point,

732
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Speaker 4: you know, Micah could get a deal better than TJ Wytt,

733
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Speaker 4: being that he's a little bit younger. Missas from very beginning,

734
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Speaker 4: TJ why did as well, So you know, I think TJ. Whit'

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Speaker 4: is gonna get signed first.

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Speaker 1: All right, So Anthony Richardson could be back in action

737
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Speaker 1: by training camp. Do you think he ends up starting

738
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Speaker 1: opening day? Based on the fact that he's out quote

739
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: indefinitely right now and Jones is getting these mini camp

740
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Speaker 1: reps and who knows what happens when training camp starts.

741
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Speaker 1: Has your thought on the Colts quarterback situation changed it all?

742
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 4: It has? I just don't get the sense that they

743
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 4: really think highly of Anthony Richison down there in Indianapolis,

744
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 4: no matter what they say. I think everything they've done

745
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 4: has signaled that they eventually would like to move on

746
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: if things don't work out this year. And I think

747
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones getting many of the first team reps only

748
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 4: helps him out. He has experiencing and we know that

749
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Speaker 4: even though he's not the greatest quarterback, he can perform

750
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 4: at a at a pretty decent level. And I think

751
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 4: he would probably beat Anthony Richardson out given that he's

752
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 4: had you know that chemistry built in this in OTAs

753
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 4: and Anti Richardson has missed as much time as he has.

754
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Speaker 1: Another quarterback who's been dealing with something and actually sounded

755
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: like he had a procedure this offseason. He's two a

756
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: tongue of I loo with the Miami Dolphins and I

757
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: Jonathan cannot, for the life of me figure the Dolphins out.

758
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: Are they a finesse team who beats teams that are

759
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: lesser than less talented than them, can't get over the

760
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: hump against the good teams, or they a team on

761
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: the brink that you just need everybody to stay healthy

762
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: to put it all together.

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Speaker 3: I can't make Hidner hair of the Miami Dolphins. And

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Speaker 3: then two was obviously dealing with something as well. What

765
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Speaker 3: are your thoughts about Mike McDaniel and the Miami Dolphins.

766
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they're heading in the wrong direction. You know,

767
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 4: I really think that. You know, they took the league

768
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 4: by storm in twenty twenty three with their offense, and

769
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Speaker 4: that kind of happened around the league a lot of

770
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 4: those exposive players with Tyreek Hill. I think Tyreek Hill

771
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 4: is slowing down a little bit as a receiver, and

772
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Speaker 4: I think last year you really saw defenses take advantage

773
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Speaker 4: of that and start to really prevent the exposive players

774
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Speaker 4: with me with a lot of two high safety looks.

775
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Speaker 4: And I think teams have figured out Mike be Daniel's offense.

776
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 4: So you know, I think they'll continue to struggle. I

777
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: don't think they have enough pieces, and a lot of

778
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 4: their pieces are getting older as well, So yeah, they

779
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 4: are predicated on being healthy. And you know, I just

780
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 4: don't see the dolphinse elevating themselves.

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Speaker 1: In the way. Too early to think about this department.

782
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence wearing a sleeve. He has general soreness. We've

783
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: heard that term around here, but our guys out there

784
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: slinging it. He's got the sleeve and they're admitting to

785
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: some things that who knows what they materialize into. So

786
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Speaker 1: I guess this is pure speculation. Any concern for you

787
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: if you were a Jacksonville guy.

788
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a little bit. Anytime you talk about

789
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 4: a quarterback with the shoulder injury, you're a little bit concerned.

790
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 4: But I think you can manage it pretty well. I

791
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 4: thought CJ. Brought up a great analogy, and it's just like,

792
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 4: you know, quarterbacks just like pictures. You know, their arms

793
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 4: get sore when they throw a lot, and sometimes you

794
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 4: have to dial it back a bit. You don't want

795
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 4: to overwork them, overthrow them, because then it could lead

796
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: to really big problems. And I think the Texans and

797
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: I think that the Jaguars would be smart with that.

798
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 4: But long term, as long as those teams manage it well,

799
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Speaker 4: I don't think as much to be concerned about.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan, what do you have going out to the Houston

801
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: Chronicle for us?

802
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a story out on CJ. Stroud and

803
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Speaker 4: a few more things that'll be in the worst maybe

804
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Speaker 4: one on Christian Kirk later on this week.

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Speaker 2: Sounds great.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot for joining us, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: There's Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle coming up. Final

808
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: segment where we will recap a bit about Mini Camp

809
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Speaker 1: and Top twenty plays at the last twenty five years

810
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Speaker 1: in college football. Do we agree with ESPN's list. It's

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Speaker 1: next here on Texans Radio. Mark Vandermere and John Harris

812
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Speaker 1: with you on Texans Radio rounding out the program today.

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Speaker 1: Biggest takeaway from Mini camp today, Johnny Higgins. Okay, Jane Higgins,

814
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Speaker 1: I thought, looks fantastic, great one to any catch, just

815
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Speaker 1: to see the rookies practice after practice, week after week progress.

816
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Speaker 2: What about CJ Stroud? He looked pretty good too. I

817
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Speaker 2: don't want to.

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Speaker 3: Take seven for granted, I never will, but I just

819
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Speaker 3: wanted to bring up something different.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds good because CJ look good today throwing

821
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Speaker 1: the football, and he'll be back at it tomorrow. Will

822
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Speaker 1: recap that for you. I wanted to get to this

823
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Speaker 1: on the way out. So ESPN put together their top

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Speaker 1: twenty five plays since two thousand. Have you looked at

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Speaker 1: this yet? No play college football play lays, play lays,

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Speaker 1: They sheet a bit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think number one is? The last

828
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Speaker 2: twenty five years? Yeah? The Kick six Auburn album. Absolutely

829
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Speaker 2: Kick six twenty or thirteen. Yeah. What do you think

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Speaker 2: number two might be?

831
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Speaker 1: Statue Liberty, Boise State, Bengo.

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Speaker 2: I've not seen this.

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Speaker 1: That's two thousand and seven, yep, against Oklahoma. Give me

834
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Speaker 1: another one play? See they don't really do the play.

835
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Speaker 3: Here, Second and twenty six to Devontae Smith.

836
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's on this list. But they go invincible Vince Young. Yeah,

837
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Speaker 1: now you can't do that. It's plays now they're winning play.

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Speaker 2: Well, touchdown. I guess they're going with the winning play problem, but.

839
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Speaker 1: They're not really, they're just let's see. Oh they do

840
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: talk about it. Four and five. Okay, that's good. I'll

841
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Speaker 1: give it to Okay, so to his tosses. Next second

842
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Speaker 1: twenty six is next? Okay, walk off?

843
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Speaker 2: No walk off? TD? Is that the one to win

844
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Speaker 2: the national championship?

845
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Second and twenty six, that's the one guy, Davin Bellamy.

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Speaker 1: You have to sack on the on the first down play,

847
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Speaker 1: remember you here with the Texans, and then the second

848
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: down play second and twenty six they save his losing

849
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Speaker 1: his minded sideline two is like I got this.

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Speaker 2: There's a bomber Yvonte Smith.

851
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Speaker 1: They win it, okay, apple Lashian State defeating Michigan State

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Speaker 1: is fifth Michigan Rather, it's fifth.

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Speaker 3: Is that the is the blockfield goal? I guess they

854
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Speaker 3: don't they see it.

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Speaker 1: Then reached field goal to range and then yeah, blocked

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Speaker 1: it field all the horror.

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Speaker 2: Is that the nickname for that play?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I've never heard that, but it would

859
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Speaker 1: make sense because Michigan, all those guys, Jake Long, Mike Hart,

860
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Speaker 1: Chad Henney, Texas Killer, they all went back to Michigan

861
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Speaker 1: for that year after the year before they thought we

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Speaker 1: got national championship and app State beat.

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Speaker 2: Boom right there on the spot. I mean, if they get.

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Speaker 1: Beat Michigan, fans uh six is called six and that's

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Speaker 1: Crab Prize catch.

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00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah against Texas. Yeah that twentyd and eight. What

867
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: a year. That was final seconds. That was awesome. It

868
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: was phenomenal. That was great.

869
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 1: Seventh is the prayer at Jordan Hare. Oh yeah, twenty thirteen.

870
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was the throw from there was the

871
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 3: throw name escapes Me. Four throws Marshall deep. Two Georgia

872
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: guys hit the ball and tip it.

873
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: One knocks it away from the other one and receiver

874
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: for Roberts.

875
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: Into his hands. Nico Lewis.

876
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: Ball's kind of over his shoulder and he's got to

877
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 3: find it and then it falls in his hands.

878
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: They win that.

879
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: The next game was kick six it was like, those

880
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: were back to back games at Drenair.

881
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: That's incredible. Twenty thirteen, twenty thirteen, it was unbelievable. Year

882
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 1: eight is Surrender Cobra, Michigan State, Michigan, Oh, twenty fifteen.

883
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: We were on the road in Jacksonville. I remember watching that.

884
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were we were on the road in Repsville.

885
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: We were looking, we were looking to go find some

886
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: place to eat. And in the meanwhile we're like, oh

887
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 3: my god, did you see what happened in Michigan blocked

888
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: the kick on the final play of the game. Watts

889
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 3: I think his name was, and he gets tackled in

890
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: the end zone to win the game and they all

891
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 3: jump on him. But when he got tackled, he dissocated

892
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: his hip. So he's underneath the pilot's where you screaming.

893
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 3: He's like, get out of me because he's got he's

894
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 3: got a mile, he's got a busted hip.

895
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh.

896
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: Roy Williams hit on Chris Simms Superman. Ye Superman play

897
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: flies through the air. Don't leave your feet, Roy, don't

898
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: leave your feet. That was the advice you got from

899
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: the sideline.

900
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: Mike Stoops Defense coordinator, don't leave your feet left his feet.

901
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: I watched that at a bar in Miami during the

902
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: two thousand and one National Championship season, which does come

903
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: into play on this list. Champions is the next title.

904
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: Number ten college football play since two thousand and that's

905
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: Ohio State defeating Miami.

906
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: You suw on bad call?

907
00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: Okay, So Clowney's play against Michigan the hit. The hit

908
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: is car wreck, they call it, and it's number eleven

909
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: on the list.

910
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: It's just the hit.

911
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: I mean it, don't I mean now, I know there

912
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: would be some aggies that are mad because Queen Coriot

913
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: he and Kyle richardson ninety one at TCU is the

914
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: greatest hit I've ever seen.

915
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 2: Clowny is a second.

916
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: So I get it. But that's how people know in

917
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: the sec like that's the hit.

918
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: Boy.

919
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: Miami pops up on this list because lot Duke. Let's

920
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: see was it Duke.

921
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: Duke? Yeah? Eight laterals of chaos right yeah?

922
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: That and and it should have been called back but

923
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't because one of the guys was down, his

924
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: knee was on the grounding at the ball. It was

925
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: very clear, but they didn't didn't call it. So it

926
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: counts as a touchdown, So it's just.

927
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: The last twenty five years.

928
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, just so there's no hail Flutie, there's no Stanford

929
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: band here.

930
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't one that should be on the Cordell store.

931
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: I don't one that should be on.

932
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 3: Are is Robert Griffin RG three in twenty eleven, his

933
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: Heisman year, throws a bomb to Terrence Williams for a

934
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: touchdown against Oklahoma. Looking twenty eleven, that should that now,

935
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 3: if it's only twenty five plays, that's it's going to

936
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 3: be close.

937
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So I called one of these plays. Can you

938
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: guess which one it is? Makes it pretty easy?

939
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: Celeste? Why? Right? No? Right? They don't include that.

940
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: Oh that stealing the interception from Walter against Boston College,

941
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: so it's a pick six, but it's a handoff flateral.

942
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: And again, as play by play guy for that play.

943
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: I would imagine that was confused. It was confusing.

944
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: How did you call it? I said, gets the ball

945
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: on an exchange.

946
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

947
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: Generalize as much as possable, And I listened to the

948
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: call of Westwood one Howard David was doing it, and

949
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: I listened to the call of Musburger and I thought

950
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: I did the best job. Okay, that's me commenting on myself.

951
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for the show tonight. A lot

952
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: of fun tomorrow night. More on Mini camp As. Day

953
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: two is tomorrow morning, and you know we're going to

954
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: be talking all about it. Area forty five is next day,

955
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: talk about everything.

956
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 2: Don't miss it. Have a great night, Go Texans.