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Speaker 1: And we're gonna we're gonna get into this. This episode
Speaker 1: is going to be discussed amongst four of these talking
Speaker 1: heads that you see before you. But first I want
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Speaker 3: Keep trying to figure out what song is about Tupelo,
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Speaker 3: I'm glad you're telling this all now because it's about
Speaker 3: to get real.
Speaker 1: It's about to get real, folks, because I think we
Speaker 1: have some very engaged podcasters, some podcasting talent. It's fully engaged.
Speaker 1: What do we think kids? Size? First, hang on, let's
Speaker 1: keep the horse in the bar.
Speaker 3: But we need to address that this is the final episode.
Speaker 3: If you're original creators, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: And it's called partings, so yeah, always, yeah, we're parting,
Speaker 1: so this is our parting gift. Anyway, do you.
Speaker 3: All remember Wait, before we get into it, I have
Speaker 3: to ask you a few questions. Do you remember that
Speaker 3: they were leaving? Like did you guys know at this
Speaker 3: point or did you not find out until a little
Speaker 3: bit later, like in the summer.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a good question. I don't remember. I
Speaker 1: don't remember if we knew or if I knew m.
Speaker 3: Because I wonder how everyone.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to jog my memory a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember distinctively, you.
Speaker 3: Know, knowing already, yeah, which I could imagine maybe you
Speaker 3: didn't because it you know, maybe they thought it would
Speaker 3: get resolved.
Speaker 1: Mmm. Yeah, pretty big blow when they didn't get the
Speaker 1: two year deal, which is standard with a hit show
Speaker 1: owner Brothers and they just felt snubbed and they said
Speaker 1: bye bye, okay.
Speaker 3: Well beautifully shot at the SOD Also, I will say
Speaker 3: it was shot. It looked like a movie to be
Speaker 3: I thought it was.
Speaker 1: I thought it was really it doesn't look like a movie.
Speaker 3: I disagree. I thought it looked like there was a
Speaker 3: lot of stars hollow. There was a lot of new
Speaker 3: things like angles and things we hadn't seen.
Speaker 1: It look like a movie shot on a potato.
Speaker 3: There was there was parts of stars hollow we'd never
Speaker 3: seen before.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of movement. I would say, like
Speaker 4: the cameras.
Speaker 1: It was a rather attractive looking episodes. It really did
Speaker 1: poss and different. Well, you know it was it was
Speaker 1: the the goodbye. It's like I listen before we synopsize.
Speaker 1: I will say this because there's been a lot of conjecture,
Speaker 1: a lot of theory as to what this last episode
Speaker 1: really meant. What Amy and Dan were thinking, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: are there what are all the hidden messages in this episode?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it a are they slamming the fan base?
Speaker 1: Like we're going to ruin these characters. We're gonna ruin
Speaker 1: this show. I don't know. I don't know so much.
Speaker 1: You know what, I think, you know what? You know
Speaker 1: what dawned on me watching this episode was I think
Speaker 1: they were saying, we're really good writers, we're great writers,
Speaker 1: and we're going to leave this here for you. Try
Speaker 1: to match this, because you're not going to be able
Speaker 1: to because our talent run runs am uck and we
Speaker 1: charge accordingly. So we're going to go on and do
Speaker 1: great things, which they have done. They have that confidence,
Speaker 1: they know how good they are, because you can't write
Speaker 1: like that and not know how good you are. And
Speaker 1: I think that's really what it was. It's like, we're
Speaker 1: going to give you this treat, bye bye, enjoy and uh,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna see anything better than this. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of how I felt about it. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the ending, I know is extraordinarily controversial.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk about it, we'll.
Speaker 1: Talk about it.
Speaker 3: But Danielle, because I don't, I don't I have a
Speaker 3: hot take.
Speaker 1: Okay, No, we're and we're gonna you're gonna.
Speaker 4: We're gonna hot take it hot. We're gonna all right,
Speaker 4: This is Season six, episode twenty two of the finale
Speaker 4: partings air date May ninth, two thousand and six, and
Speaker 4: the synopsis is Logan graduates from college and Rory throws
Speaker 4: him an epic goodbye party as he takes off for
Speaker 4: London to work for his dad. Emily and Richards set
Speaker 4: up Christopher Friday night dinner, and Luke and Laurlai continue
Speaker 4: to be distant, but as she realizes she needs to
Speaker 4: take matters into her own hands, she gives an ultimatum,
Speaker 4: but the outcome lands her in the arms of her
Speaker 4: ex and Towntriubadour's Floodstars Hello, hoping to get discovered.
Speaker 1: So we start this off at Suki's. We do this
Speaker 1: whole super quiet route.
Speaker 3: That was a good scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really contrasted laurelized life in the present with what
Speaker 1: she really wants.
Speaker 3: And funny with Suki. Funny the way they did it
Speaker 3: just zoomed in on her face. A lot of face
Speaker 3: acting in this episode with the funny bit, because that
Speaker 3: is exactly how parents are. Oh, be quiet, be quiet,
Speaker 3: be quiet, like it's so loud, you know everyone's It
Speaker 3: was really that was a that was a ten out
Speaker 3: of ten for me. To start. I was like, hm,
Speaker 3: it was different. It wasn't too long.
Speaker 1: Right, that was good?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was a perfect tone. It captured it captured the
Speaker 1: uh you know, it really captured laurelized angst.
Speaker 3: Yes, I thought so too.
Speaker 1: Sam and her internal thoughts and it contrasted where she
Speaker 1: was in her life and Worsuki.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, I agree, without Laurel having a word, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that is great writing.
Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting, like you you said, Scott,
Speaker 5: like she did the whole thing without saying a word
Speaker 5: and conveyed the idea that she was sort of in
Speaker 5: her own little bubble, like her own little world, existing
Speaker 5: by herself, but yet still with other people. So I
Speaker 5: thought that was that was pretty powerful. And then it
Speaker 5: happened again at the end, if you like, in the
Speaker 5: very last it was the same thing.
Speaker 3: Hadn't Anybody didn't realize that till you just said it
Speaker 3: right now? You're right wow, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, and my Scotti piece, big mug coffee mug, I
Speaker 1: am having a cup of the you're making me crazy
Speaker 1: and I am in heaven right now, so good, and you.
Speaker 3: Actually look pretty happy drinking that. I've never had a
Speaker 3: cup of coffee but oh my god, here's yeah, that
Speaker 3: is a really cool note, Suzanne. You are right. We'll
Speaker 3: talk about that as we get there. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean I think right from the start they sucked me
Speaker 3: in and I was like, oh, oh, we.
Speaker 1: Frame, we frame the main narrative right there, bang, here
Speaker 1: we go, and then what they do within that framework
Speaker 1: was mildly entertaining, quite entertaining, stupendously entertaining. All right, So
Speaker 1: now we're in stars Hollow, Taylor, can I make one note?
Speaker 1: Yes please?
Speaker 3: I think I did think was interesting about this episode,
Speaker 3: and I'll say it now. Say an episode's forty four minutes, right,
Speaker 3: forty went?
Speaker 1: Is it forty twenty minutes of commercials?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 3: I think it's still forty two. We'll figure it out.
Speaker 3: Forty I think, okay, we'll go with forty because you're
Speaker 3: the boss. So I would say, in this episode of
Speaker 3: meaty content we had thirty five, there was a lot
Speaker 3: of filler with troubadours, so many troubadours. Mind, I didn't.
Speaker 1: But it was so damn funny.
Speaker 3: But it was a lot, right, it was a lot.
Speaker 3: It was a significant amount, so that I felt like,
Speaker 3: here's what I'll say there wasn't a wasted scene of
Speaker 3: the rest, right, So there wasn't a scene that I
Speaker 3: would toss or a wasted moment of the thirty five minutes.
Speaker 1: I think what you're trying to say is it was
Speaker 1: a perfect balance of bizarre comedy, straight comedy, uh, drama,
Speaker 1: edy and drama.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like the amount of Troubadours. It was like,
Speaker 4: I was okay with like three scenes, but when it
Speaker 4: was every single scene was it was a latch for me.
Speaker 4: I used too much.
Speaker 5: I liked the Troubadours because they were all like actual groups,
Speaker 5: Like it was Sparks and it.
Speaker 3: Was Spark.
Speaker 1: Came on like Sparks, and I didn't know what I
Speaker 1: was right, but there.
Speaker 5: The Paladino was in there. I just I thought I
Speaker 5: liked the Troubadors.
Speaker 3: A return of marylynd Rice cub Oh, hysterical.
Speaker 1: Her Volvo song, rhyming Hawaiians with crying and everything. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, it.
Speaker 3: Was fine, but it was a lot. It was a loss,
Speaker 3: you guys, It was a lot.
Speaker 6: It was a lot, but a lot.
Speaker 5: But you had to have something happy going on to
Speaker 5: distract you from the rest of the insanity.
Speaker 1: Suzanne French for the wind.
Speaker 3: Can I also say sometimes I'm wishy washy on her,
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna say Alexis Bludell this was probably her
Speaker 3: best acting anyway. What do I know. I'm just a
Speaker 3: random person who they gave a microphone to.
Speaker 1: But who thinks that shows are forty four minutes?
Speaker 6: I think they are.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
Speaker 4: When you watch on Netflix, it's definitely forty three. But
Speaker 4: I don't know if.
Speaker 3: That's because the starting credit, yeah.
Speaker 4: And the flashback, you know, like actual episode is forty.
Speaker 6: Ah.
Speaker 1: That's making me crazy, is making me crazy.
Speaker 3: Okay, so continue, Scott, Let's get into it all.
Speaker 1: Right's an Now we're in stars Hollow. Taylor is walking
Speaker 1: down the street and he's noticing that, you know, Grantlee
Speaker 1: Buffalo is missing, and there's another troubadour singing and he
Speaker 1: was doing a pretty darn good job. It was a
Speaker 1: pretty nice little song with some nice changes in that song.
Speaker 1: Because I'm a songwriter and I check it out and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's a nicely structured song with a
Speaker 1: nice lie.
Speaker 3: My note was a lot of background actors got to talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So then Taylor, you know, so he noticed
Speaker 1: and he's he's he's This is our first tease of
Speaker 1: the change in the Troubado. I don't think we don't
Speaker 1: find out here that that Grantly Buffalo is going off
Speaker 1: to open for Neil Young.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think yeah. I started to assume it because
Speaker 3: he said that he was in a.
Speaker 1: Large episode, right, it was a prior episode.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: In the last episode, we learned he's going to right
Speaker 3: because he bumps into Suki and Jackson.
Speaker 1: So I didn't remember that, which is probably why I
Speaker 1: enjoyed all these trouba What's going on?
Speaker 3: That was a nice scene for Taylor, and then there
Speaker 3: was a lot of background actors talking to him, which
Speaker 3: normally doesn't happen, so I was like, oh, they speak well.
Speaker 1: Taylor was so great in this. He made me laugh
Speaker 1: so hard. His shocked and outraged reactions are just beautiful.
Speaker 1: And then we have Laura, Rory and Logan graduating. Logan's graduating,
Speaker 1: He's got his cane. It's walking around like Charlie champ
Speaker 1: One a little bit. I think. I think on the
Speaker 1: last last time we see Logan walking away before he
Speaker 1: goes to the car to go to the airport to
Speaker 1: go to London. I think we do a little homage
Speaker 1: to Chaplain. I thought that was a little little trampy
Speaker 1: thing there. But anyway, what do we think of the
Speaker 1: graduation stuff?
Speaker 4: Whoa.
Speaker 3: I thought it was a little racy that they're going
Speaker 3: through the camera and he said naked naked, but she
Speaker 3: has naked photos of Logan. I thought, oh wow. The
Speaker 3: nature of their relation definitely was like wowso okay. Also,
Speaker 3: it kind of gave me a visual of like do
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 1: That or no, I think you do.
Speaker 3: I mean, I love Matt Zugri, well, so you like you?
Speaker 3: So I mean I was like, oh, I think.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, would you like to be Rory for
Speaker 1: a day or a week with Logan?
Speaker 3: Would like to be Laurli. But I wouldn't mind being
Speaker 3: Rory dating Zukrie because.
Speaker 1: He liked Luke better than Logan. Because if your Lareli
Speaker 1: for a death, Oh.
Speaker 3: My gosh, that is a that is a question for me.
Speaker 1: You just walk, you write.
Speaker 3: Because at the time, I was crushing because it's twenty
Speaker 3: years ago, so I was young. I was right in
Speaker 3: the middle, right because I was thirty and I was
Speaker 3: definitely crushing on both. I was like, oh, I love
Speaker 3: them both all right, but yeah, I thought a little bracy,
Speaker 3: but I like, I was very pleased with this. Suzann
Speaker 3: Danielle like, how are you guys feeling?
Speaker 4: I liked Logan and Rory so much this episode, and
Speaker 4: it's annoying that they get ripped apart at the end
Speaker 4: of it in my opinion, Like I thought, finally they're
Speaker 4: kind of making sense, you know.
Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting how all I wanted to hear it
Speaker 1: don't go from Luke, and Logan wanted to hear it
Speaker 1: don't go from Rory, I know, and neither of them
Speaker 1: got their satisfaction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, hence the name of the episode. Right.
Speaker 4: I don't blame Rory, though I don't either. We have
Speaker 4: we have a lot to talk about.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 1: So now we see Sparks. All of a sudden, Sparks
Speaker 1: is on the duo, the musical duo who did very
Speaker 1: well in the What the Eighties Sparks jamming in front
Speaker 1: of Josie's Market and Taylor comes out with hysterically funny,
Speaker 1: exasperated gesticulations.
Speaker 4: Did you notice that Taylor called Luke lucas? I wrote that,
Speaker 4: I literally wrote down in my notes. Does he always
Speaker 4: do this? I don't have I recall it.
Speaker 3: It's very fatherly of him too. I really like that
Speaker 3: and it's such a subtle thing, but yet I love it.
Speaker 1: So so this is when we see Sparks and then
Speaker 1: you know Ted Rooney Ryman with Hawaiian and crying and
Speaker 1: lion and just being his cool self.
Speaker 3: Man. Is this where we get Mary Lynn and her
Speaker 3: Volvo song?
Speaker 1: Not yet? Okay, that's towards the end. Yeah, And is
Speaker 1: that that's an original song she wrote? Because it's sure
Speaker 1: seems like it's very funny. It's very funny and uh okay.
Speaker 1: So now we're inside Luke's and and the Taylor's outrage
Speaker 1: continues as he comes to a completely disinterested Luke on
Speaker 1: the phone, saying, this is the height of my interest.
Speaker 1: Get away for me. I'm not interested in anything you
Speaker 1: have to say. He goes to Kirk and what do
Speaker 1: we think about that? Kirk has some very funny lines here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was all good.
Speaker 5: That was a laugh out loud moment for me because
Speaker 5: I'm a big Monkeys fan. So he said, who's that's
Speaker 5: one of the monkeys?
Speaker 1: I just write he wrote less train to Clark spell Ye,
Speaker 1: well it's not Neil Young. And then we have Taylor
Speaker 1: comparing the Troubadours to somebody who he thinks is supremely talented.
Speaker 1: Pat Boone was like, he says, if you people, don't
Speaker 1: leave right now, because otherwise I'll call the authorities and
Speaker 1: they'll you'll be confronted with water hoses and canines. So
Speaker 1: bye bye, right. I one of the great tailor, the
Speaker 1: greatest tailor moments perhaps in recent memory. Very funny and
Speaker 1: not taking nothing away from Pat Boone. He was an
Speaker 1: amazing artist.
Speaker 3: Was a Debbie Boone Remember you light in my life?
Speaker 1: It is he? Is it?
Speaker 3: Pat boons around? Remember when he had his like heavy
Speaker 3: metal day?
Speaker 1: Did he really? He had heavy He went into heavy.
Speaker 3: Metal, but like at eighty, like when he was old.
Speaker 3: Like what I remember like a leather vest. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: that's hot Boon doing metal. What was a Pat Boone hit?
Speaker 3: Does anybody remember?
Speaker 1: Uh? I just have a feeling. It's it's something like
Speaker 1: a smile on your face.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, let's see if you're right.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm right.
Speaker 3: This will save us from doing this In pop culture,
Speaker 3: smile Hat Boone hits.
Speaker 4: Love Letters in the Sand, Speedy.
Speaker 3: Gun Zalez, April Love, Moody No I'll be home.
Speaker 1: Wow, the smile on your face.
Speaker 3: Pat boon Age, let's do that. Pat boone Age, whoa
Speaker 3: eighty nine years old?
Speaker 1: Good for Baton, he's still he's still kicking it, then
Speaker 1: for Pat boon rocking.
Speaker 3: So I also noticed that horse staff behind Taylor. I
Speaker 3: don't know why I'd never noticed it so prominently as
Speaker 3: I did in this episode. I was like, wow, that's
Speaker 3: quite a statue.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was there all the time. All right. Now
Speaker 1: we're outside of Laurelei's.
Speaker 3: House, very shot of the mailbox.
Speaker 1: Right and she and she calls Rory, and Rory is
Speaker 1: a post graduation and staying away from the uh, the
Speaker 1: Mitchen's and the Huntsburgers, letting Logan do his thing. What
Speaker 1: did you guys think of this?
Speaker 3: Here's my note on it, Larelei, because I've been in
Speaker 3: that position where your heartbroken and you're having to fake
Speaker 3: it for somebody, And.
Speaker 7: I thought she really expressed that so well, like the
Speaker 7: way we saw her, not the way she Rory was
Speaker 7: hearing her.
Speaker 3: Although Rory was like, what's going on? She seems so heartbroken?
Speaker 4: I was like, are you okay? And she was like yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: And then when she hangs up. It's that pain that
Speaker 3: we've all felt when you're like, I am in so
Speaker 3: much pain and I just faked it so hard. So
Speaker 3: I thought that was portrayed so well in that scene.
Speaker 1: Keep talking, I'm gonna take my shirt off. Ew No,
Speaker 1: there's one.
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Just everybody knows. But he's got a lot. I work out,
Speaker 3: like a long sleep. But we all reacted like that's
Speaker 3: because we're like brother and sister, all of us now,
Speaker 3: and it's just like between the butt talk and now
Speaker 3: the best comeback Scott is I work out?
Speaker 6: Damn you.
Speaker 3: So good? Yeah, she's in pain.
Speaker 4: Oh she has been in pain for the last few
Speaker 4: episodes though, and hiding it the whole time, you know,
Speaker 4: So it's not the first thing.
Speaker 3: She's just tired.
Speaker 5: She's just so exhausted from all of the emotional.
Speaker 3: Which I get she's been doing the only part I
Speaker 3: am not on team lore Life or is her weird
Speaker 3: antics of avoiding him with.
Speaker 4: The best I think that's the next one of the
Speaker 4: next scenes. But with the Patty, I'm like, why are
Speaker 4: you evolving?
Speaker 3: Everybody and who hides from their significant other Like that's
Speaker 3: freaking weird. I'm sorry weird.
Speaker 1: That's what she's going to I'm going to recuse myself
Speaker 1: from this conversation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you think it's weird too.
Speaker 1: I no, I've never been a woman, and I don't
Speaker 1: know how she's feeling.
Speaker 3: Well, I have been for fifty years.
Speaker 1: I should disqualify myself.
Speaker 3: And I get all of it, except for like, I
Speaker 3: literally would never be like tell him I'm not here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's done that more than once.
Speaker 3: So the person I've be engaged too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, weird.
Speaker 3: It is so weird.
Speaker 4: And I feel like we've been seeing this for the
Speaker 4: last few episodes and it's been building up, building up,
Speaker 4: building up, and finally there was a payoff this episode.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's just I hate how she's involving everyone
Speaker 4: in her in her business with Luke and being very
Speaker 4: high school about it.
Speaker 1: I guess the nature of the show, But that's it
Speaker 1: stars Hollow. It's a small town. Everybody knows everybody's business.
Speaker 1: That's kind of the point of living in a place
Speaker 1: like that because everybody's accountable for their behavior and that's
Speaker 1: the charm. And if you want to call it a
Speaker 1: downside fine town, but that's part of the charm of
Speaker 1: living in a small town, everybody knows your business.
Speaker 3: Sure, fine on that, but Lorala, I I expect better
Speaker 3: of her and the relationship than her hiding in Rory's
Speaker 3: bed room and telling Patty to tell him I'm not here,
Speaker 3: Like I.
Speaker 5: Didn't really have that much of a problem with it.
Speaker 5: I think she's just trying to figure out what she's
Speaker 5: going to do now because she's still trying to recover
Speaker 5: from the whole birthday party thing, and you know, Luke
Speaker 5: is pushing her away again, and she's just I think
Speaker 5: she just wanted She's just trying to create kind of
Speaker 5: some space where she can.
Speaker 3: Think, say I need then say I need space about
Speaker 3: his staff meeting, lying about.
Speaker 5: His conversation with her. So now it's her turn to
Speaker 5: not have a conversation with Luke.
Speaker 3: Like we can't, is it.
Speaker 5: We can't say it's okay for him to act that
Speaker 5: way and then say it's not okay for her to
Speaker 5: act out. But he's never he's never been like that
Speaker 5: with it. He's always like been pretty vocal, like I'm
Speaker 5: figuring it.
Speaker 3: Out or this is what happened now. He hasn't been
Speaker 3: has never said, he has never told her he has
Speaker 3: a meeting that he doesn't have. And he has never
Speaker 3: said to Caesar, tell her I'm not here. He has
Speaker 3: never done that. Okay, but he's definitely avoided having a
Speaker 3: conversation with her. No, he's avoided maybe addressing a certain topic.
Speaker 3: He's never avoided talking to her. When did you see
Speaker 3: him avoid talking to her or running away from her
Speaker 3: or hiding from her? I never saw that.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't. He just doesn't bring anything up, and
Speaker 1: he he just kind of avoids or he's too busy
Speaker 1: to talk about it. There is some avoid I kind
Speaker 1: of agree with.
Speaker 5: I mean, she's just manifesting it differently than he does.
Speaker 5: He just avoids it by not talking about it, and
Speaker 5: she avoids it by physically removing herself.
Speaker 1: Right, it's weird. He doesn't get he doesn't know. He's
Speaker 1: just he doesn't get super emotional about it.
Speaker 3: He just correct. But she's being weird. You don't have
Speaker 3: to agree.
Speaker 1: I'm accusing myself from the discussion. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think, look, everybody can be at
Speaker 3: Luke for his part in this, but I am just
Speaker 3: saying I don't like that she lied about the staff meeting.
Speaker 3: I don't like that she hid in the bedroom and said,
Speaker 3: tell him I'm not here, Like that's mean. Yeah, just
Speaker 3: my opinion. It's mean, and it's it's high schooling. It's weird.
Speaker 3: You know, we'll hear from everybody whether they agree or not.
Speaker 1: All right, so are we? You know? But miss Patty
Speaker 1: does say the longer the freeze out, the better the makeup.
Speaker 1: But don't wait long, Laura. And then we have this
Speaker 1: three hundred third husband thing, and I think.
Speaker 3: That's so many.
Speaker 1: I had an opportunity to scratch Paul ank As butt
Speaker 1: for an hour and what glory, and that reminded me
Speaker 1: of my fourth husband on the way. I mean, it's like,
Speaker 1: what is going on with like the butts in this episode? Anyway?
Speaker 1: All right, So now we're back to Logan and Rory,
Speaker 1: and Logan is being detained at the elevator by his
Speaker 1: father unexpectedly inconvenienced by his father's friends and their talking business,
Speaker 1: and Logan doesn't want anything to do with it. What
Speaker 1: did you guys think of this?
Speaker 3: Logan's got a serious bar in that house. That was
Speaker 3: my first note, Like, wow, for a twenty one, twenty
Speaker 3: two year old, he's got a serious like bar set up.
Speaker 1: One of the richest kids in the country. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna part so he's a lot of.
Speaker 3: Hard And then I got my takeaway from this scene
Speaker 3: is more once Rory gets in the elevator, that's where
Speaker 3: I had thoughts.
Speaker 1: Well, this is where you know, these two agree with
Speaker 1: each other. They found common ground. Yeah, she didn't disagree with.
Speaker 3: Him, no, and he finally she finally sort of understood. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sure I disagree with him.
Speaker 4: I think she like marched in there being like, I'm
Speaker 4: going to tell him what's what, and I'm going to
Speaker 4: put him in his place. And then once he actually
Speaker 4: started explaining himself, I think she realized this is also
Speaker 4: what I'm trying to do with Logan, just differently.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the most poignant lines for me in
Speaker 1: that whole scene was that he's my son. I want
Speaker 1: him to do well. Yeah, and I want him to
Speaker 1: grow up, and I want him to stop flinging himself
Speaker 1: off out of planes or off of cliffs with makeshift parachutes.
Speaker 1: And I want him to get away from those idiot
Speaker 1: friends of his.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and those are all things she wants too.
Speaker 1: How do you think he feels that his son was
Speaker 1: almost killed?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And or almost killed himself practically.
Speaker 3: Say like, if you want to go with him, go
Speaker 3: with him. I don't care, do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 3: I don't. I think Rory finally understood, like this has
Speaker 3: nothing to do with her. Yeah, she can go with it.
Speaker 3: He doesn't care.
Speaker 4: Whether or not she was Logan or not. He would
Speaker 4: be going to London this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the big problem with her going.
Speaker 3: She's not graduated, she has to finish school.
Speaker 1: She can go to London school and she she could
Speaker 1: go for the summer, right right, give me a break.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she could totally go with him for the summer,
Speaker 3: filling up.
Speaker 1: To have applications. Rory, let's go get Richard and Emily involved.
Speaker 1: You're at Oxford now, you know, you're at Cambridge wherever
Speaker 1: you want to go. Yeah, Queen's College. Let's go ahead.
Speaker 3: But what will that mean for the Rory building of astronomy.
Speaker 3: But anyway, Yeah, I mean good again, the thirty five
Speaker 3: minutes of meat every single word of it was was meaty.
Speaker 3: That was a good scene.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I liked the scene between Mitchem and Rory. I just
Speaker 4: I think it was kind of a full circle moment.
Speaker 4: You see these two people like at feuding this whole season,
Speaker 4: and finally there's a level of common ground between the
Speaker 4: two of them that she can't deny anymore.
Speaker 1: And I think it's one of the first times we've
Speaker 1: seen Mitcham vulnerable. Yeah, he escalated a little bit, he
Speaker 1: got a little heated at the end there, But that's
Speaker 1: his son. That's only had to say, this is my son, and.
Speaker 3: He's just repeating what his father did.
Speaker 1: He loves his son. That he's loving his son. It
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it, it doesn't sound like it, it doesn't
Speaker 1: look like it. But he cares, cares deeply, very powerful stuff,
Speaker 1: very powerful stuff anyway. So and of course, you know,
Speaker 1: Rory thinks it's all about her. Do you really hate
Speaker 1: me that much?
Speaker 3: Right? And then she gets a little she gets sort
Speaker 3: of a you know, he just basically yeah, he was like,
Speaker 3: zip it, I need you to zip it. Just stop.
Speaker 1: Hice. And now we're back in the stars.
Speaker 3: Hollow, a very new angle of stars hollow. Like I said,
Speaker 3: with Cliff the Postman, I'm not sure I've ever been on.
Speaker 1: The list Postman. I have some little behind the scenes here.
Speaker 1: Cliff the Postman is my standing. He was my standing.
Speaker 3: No, no, way.
Speaker 1: He got his moment on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, really cool.
Speaker 1: And he's a really good actor and he's a really
Speaker 1: good guy. And he wore he wore platform shoes that
Speaker 1: were about six.
Speaker 3: Inches high because he's shorter than you.
Speaker 1: He's a little short of me. Yeah, not a lot shorter,
Speaker 1: but he you know, he had the war of those
Speaker 1: platforms and he's just you know, hard working dude, good dude.
Speaker 3: Well, he's great. Cliff the Postman and the Postman.
Speaker 1: We want to see more of Cliff the Postman.
Speaker 4: We have a question. This might be dumb, but maybe
Speaker 4: somebody listening that the same question. What does a stand in?
Speaker 4: Do they when they block the scenes for you?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we block the scenes and then the
Speaker 1: standings come in and stand there while they light the scene.
Speaker 1: The lighting takes a while, so you know, Laurel I
Speaker 1: had her own standing I had my own stand in.
Speaker 1: Rory had her own stand in. So yeah, they have
Speaker 1: to stand there and be still while the DP and
Speaker 1: the crew are lighting the scenes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, and they use laurel Ized standing was in
Speaker 5: this episode too, in the very beginning when the.
Speaker 8: First people walking, Yeah, when when Taylor sees the first
Speaker 8: troubadour and he has a conversation with a woman walking
Speaker 8: the other door, and that was laurelized Lauren standing.
Speaker 3: I kind of like that.
Speaker 4: They're like incorporating all the crew.
Speaker 3: Are they trying to get those people their sad cards
Speaker 3: or something? That's what it feels like.
Speaker 1: We'll give them a little lextra, little extra money. They
Speaker 1: get a little Yeah, they get a bump and pay
Speaker 1: and see finally get to put it on their resume.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's a nice thing.
Speaker 3: All right now, true doors everywhere everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just filled with singers, hysterical they doot.
Speaker 5: I like the crane shot of all there.
Speaker 1: All over the place, you know. And here's the interesting thing.
Speaker 1: I just before a couple of days ago, I just
Speaker 1: wrote a song about busking.
Speaker 3: Is busking what those guys are doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, they stand on the street corner in your platform.
Speaker 1: I just finished a song I was that's my tribute
Speaker 1: to buskers. And then I see this up in this episode, say,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I love it.
Speaker 3: My one concern was there was so many that it
Speaker 3: would would it sound like a big mess. Yes, they
Speaker 3: weren't quite spread apart enough where I'm like, how am
Speaker 3: I going to hear you with your arm?
Speaker 1: I don't think they were concerned with that. I think
Speaker 1: they were just concerned with doing the joke. YEA. So
Speaker 1: now we're at Emily and Richard's and uh, the unveiling
Speaker 1: of the of the building, the Rory Gilmour astronomy.
Speaker 3: The things covered on the coffee table, and I was, okay, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna throw a flag here.
Speaker 9: This is.
Speaker 1: I'll throw a flag here, okay, And you guys tell
Speaker 1: me if you agree with me. You know, Emily and
Speaker 1: Richard High Culture Gilmore unveil the tackiest looking thing you
Speaker 1: ever see with the crazy looking fonts, and yeah, that
Speaker 1: they would approve.
Speaker 3: Of the building was pretty.
Speaker 1: Pick We're horrendous. It really looked.
Speaker 3: The sign was bad bad.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they were.
Speaker 4: Saying it was a small settlement to get a building
Speaker 4: made at a university. You're talking about millions of.
Speaker 3: Dollars their own money. I thought that, sorry to be pissed.
Speaker 4: Can you put them in a retirement.
Speaker 3: You figured out they have like a couple hundred million
Speaker 3: and that building is probably what twenty five million. They're fine,
Speaker 3: and it was.
Speaker 5: Going to be open in like six months.
Speaker 3: I'm like that seems fast.
Speaker 1: But I think I think Richard gets the tax deduction
Speaker 1: if he donates the building.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got plenty though they got funny.
Speaker 5: My red flag was that they were talking about how
Speaker 5: they got this very nice settlement. But it hasn't even
Speaker 5: been a week.
Speaker 3: Anybody who has.
Speaker 5: Ever dealt with an insurance company.
Speaker 3: Knows that's true.
Speaker 5: Now practice insurance is not going to pay out in
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 1: And plus it's like a little eye lasic thing that
Speaker 1: didn't hurt her because she's fine now, right.
Speaker 4: Right, It's not like she's blind in one eye and
Speaker 4: then now she has some other issues and then you
Speaker 4: get a multimillion dollar settlement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's another flag, A couple of flags on
Speaker 1: the same I have.
Speaker 5: One more flag. We haven't quite filled out the scene yet, but.
Speaker 3: When Laurelai first walked in, Emily asked her.
Speaker 5: If Luke was coming.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and she says, how are we?
Speaker 5: So she like in Emily's head, she was knowing that
Speaker 5: the potentially Luke and Christopher were going to be there
Speaker 5: at the same time.
Speaker 3: Would that be did they think they were going to
Speaker 3: go to blows?
Speaker 1: She was just doing it to look for some cover
Speaker 1: and not be suspected of setting them up.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 3: I think it was her way of saying, how are
Speaker 3: we no?
Speaker 4: But then like, why would her whole point of setting
Speaker 4: up Christopher this.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, what you think she wanted Luke?
Speaker 4: She wanted she knew La was.
Speaker 1: Going to be pissed about it. And then Emily could
Speaker 1: defend herself by saying, but I asked you at the
Speaker 1: front door if you would bring bring Luke. So of
Speaker 1: course I didn't set this up.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but Christopher knew because in the bathroom
Speaker 5: he says, I thought I was coming here to have
Speaker 5: dinner with you.
Speaker 3: And I'm buddled by why Emily is so hell bent
Speaker 3: on setting up Christopher.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's exactly my point. I think she jealous.
Speaker 3: Yes, so I start crafty. I feel like nobody's that
Speaker 3: crafty Emily.
Speaker 1: Crafty.
Speaker 5: Emily is really crafty, not nice level.
Speaker 1: That's that's trade craft working there.
Speaker 3: That's in the last episode when they were driving around
Speaker 3: in the giant suv and she's trying to think of
Speaker 3: like all these girls to set up Christopher and but you,
Speaker 3: I take on it, it doesn't make sense. Here's my
Speaker 3: actual like Aucham's raisor do you know Okham's razor. I'm
Speaker 3: obsessed with Aucuham's razor. It's the way they're getting Christopher
Speaker 3: back in the thing, right, I thought, I'm a very
Speaker 3: razor on it, right, like we're trying to be all
Speaker 3: c I A. Now basically she's just talking about Christopher
Speaker 3: all the time because the Rights need a reason to
Speaker 3: get Christopher back in the big payoff of the.
Speaker 4: End r like use Rory for that. That makes more sense.
Speaker 3: Also, I actually think the payoff would have been even
Speaker 3: more iconic if we hadn't have had so much weird
Speaker 3: gratuitous talk of Christopher and we didn't do this date
Speaker 3: setup that we just see other stuff, right, and we
Speaker 3: see this implosion of Luke and Lorelai and then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden she's at his door. That would have
Speaker 3: been more.
Speaker 1: Because you don't get you don't get a psychologist right
Speaker 1: right the backseat therapy scene, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: True, true, true, which was great. Laura Harden was awesome.
Speaker 1: In this episode and everything she does.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, we'll get to that. She's about to
Speaker 3: ding down the doorbell, yeah, first doorbell.
Speaker 1: You know, and then Christopher comes in Oh boy, Oh
Speaker 1: my god.
Speaker 4: You know I love Christopher, but I literally wanted him
Speaker 4: to walk back out. He don't know.
Speaker 3: I was stoked because here's the thing, whether you love
Speaker 3: Christopher or hate Christopher, he makes this show kind of juicy.
Speaker 3: There's a little sung there that I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 3: love that bathroom scene with them, the two of them,
Speaker 3: Like even if you hate him and he makes you
Speaker 3: cringe and you're like I don't want them together, it's
Speaker 3: definitely like a great TV thing, right, like, okay.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I just get a sense of dread whenever he walks in.
Speaker 3: I don't know that. I'm like a what like a juice?
Speaker 3: Am I going to have the.
Speaker 5: Bathroom scene where he's rubbing her arm?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I liked it.
Speaker 5: If she didn't, I don't want to jump ahead.
Speaker 3: She reaches out to his arm. I watched that three
Speaker 3: times because I was like, there's matching here. I thought
Speaker 3: they were going to make out in the bathroom anyway.
Speaker 3: I know everybody talks about the letters to Scale. I
Speaker 3: also had my best line here. I think it's Laureli
Speaker 3: and she says, I love the portrait idea.
Speaker 1: Because she's like, I don't know this. This is a
Speaker 1: perfect scene displaying the just outrageous talent of Amy and
Speaker 1: and Dan Palladino. Yeah, so many great laurelei Quippi. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: killing it.
Speaker 3: I totally agree killing it.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys watched Superstore, but the
Speaker 5: maid was in Superstar. Oh no, that's funny, good girl, Yeah, funny.
Speaker 5: The one that she's like, did I fire you?
Speaker 6: Dude?
Speaker 3: I got me? Laura Harden good casting, mm hmm. Isn't
Speaker 3: she great Lenny? Which I'm like, of course, her name's Lenny.
Speaker 3: Her name's Carolyn Bates, Lenny. I love that. I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's so rich.
Speaker 1: It's just so great. All right. So now, and the letters,
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, those letters were just it was
Speaker 1: just like, is so weird.
Speaker 4: That they're eating paea. I don't know why. I was like,
Speaker 4: I never would have thought at a Friday night dinner
Speaker 4: they would have.
Speaker 5: Well, they had spaghetti meatballs last week.
Speaker 3: I would have preferred the Spaghettian meatballs.
Speaker 1: A great great scene move move.
Speaker 3: When she says move move to Laura LII, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Out of her socket to get her.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh man.
Speaker 3: A lot of great face acting real quick. A lot
Speaker 3: of face acting here, Loralai and Christopher making the face like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, this is happening.
Speaker 1: It's really you know what really is. Let's just sort
Speaker 1: of hone in on this Amy. It's eyeball acting.
Speaker 3: Eyeball acting, you are correct, a lot of eyes, sometimes
Speaker 3: some health, sometimes air.
Speaker 1: But it's like it begins with the thought and it
Speaker 1: comes out of the eyes and its energy and you
Speaker 1: read it and that's what it is. Yeah, And the
Speaker 1: eyeballs are a part of the face, so I guess
Speaker 1: you could broadly define.
Speaker 3: Its face and Emily just pouring it on.
Speaker 1: All right. So now we're in stars Hollow again at night,
Speaker 1: and there's more Troubadours and there's a there's a mom
Speaker 1: rocking with her two kids and jumping up and down.
Speaker 3: Is this where we saw the police officer?
Speaker 1: This is where we see which was absolutely hysterical. There's
Speaker 1: a bust in the background unloading more from all parts
Speaker 1: of the United States, absolutely hysterical. Offife wasanius.
Speaker 3: We get the real troubadour back.
Speaker 1: And then and then Grantlee Buffalo shows up and says,
Speaker 1: you know, tour, what are you talking about? I made
Speaker 1: seven hundred bucks and I never got to beat Neil
Speaker 1: Young Heart of Gold.
Speaker 3: My ass who sang the beaver my thumb?
Speaker 1: That was Dan Palladinos and the guy on the base
Speaker 1: I think was David Galski. Yeah right, right, God great,
Speaker 1: this is just such a you know, this episode was
Speaker 1: so dense that, yes, you could not catch your breath.
Speaker 3: That is what I'm saying. There was That's why they
Speaker 3: gave us the Troubadours because it was the time first of.
Speaker 1: In a sense, on on on multiple levels, this might
Speaker 1: be the best episode I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I I just don't disagree.
Speaker 1: I laughed and laughed throughout from beginning to riding quite
Speaker 1: last the end. But it was it was a laugh right.
Speaker 1: My wife came and watched it with me.
Speaker 3: It was also juicy. You guys, like, you don't have
Speaker 3: to love the end, but the end is a juicy cliffhanger. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I have, so you don't have to love it.
Speaker 1: To bever ate my thumb that's Dan Palladino. And but
Speaker 1: but what are we missing here?
Speaker 6: Then?
Speaker 3: We I think we're heading back to the bathroom. Right
Speaker 3: when do we go.
Speaker 1: To the room, Well, we've got Logan and Finn. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: escorting a logan to his and then Rory opens the
Speaker 1: door and it's a London party and she has a
Speaker 1: British accent.
Speaker 3: And pretty pretty decent.
Speaker 1: Pretty decent, right.
Speaker 3: She real cute, right, like the out We skipped the
Speaker 3: bathroom scene, Yeah we did. I think the bathroom scene
Speaker 3: comes first. I think you're right.
Speaker 1: What bathroom scene?
Speaker 3: The bar scene where he was touching her.
Speaker 1: You talked about it, You talked about how we and
Speaker 1: we don't want to dwell on that ground.
Speaker 5: I do.
Speaker 3: I've got a lot more to say about that.
Speaker 1: So you just wanted to pass it by because it
Speaker 1: was like it was making you a gag.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: First of all, I was not gagging, Suzanne. Were you gagging?
Speaker 5: I was gagging at the arm rubbing, not at all.
Speaker 5: So they basically she's got to go to the bathroom.
Speaker 5: Christopher bobs in there again.
Speaker 1: Love. I thought it was a sign that they meet
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Love, And he's like, get me out of it, said.
Speaker 1: What spy school did you go to?
Speaker 3: So good? Get me out of with another great line,
Speaker 3: I think it says I said, yes, that's how all
Speaker 3: great divorces start.
Speaker 1: But I like that.
Speaker 3: Look, they have chemistry, guys, you might not like it,
Speaker 3: but they have chemistry.
Speaker 1: They do. They do, and how so that's what you
Speaker 1: feel when you see them together. You feel the chemistry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it might be an unpopular opinion, but.
Speaker 1: If you feel it, you feel it. I mean, I'm just.
Speaker 3: Nobody else in this here show feels their chemistry.
Speaker 4: I agree, I feel their chemistry.
Speaker 5: I feel like they have like a friendship like friendliness
Speaker 5: kind of chemistry. I don't think they have like a
Speaker 5: romantic kind of chemistry.
Speaker 4: I think you feel that your first love that you're
Speaker 4: not in love with anymore, but that still was your
Speaker 4: first love that you had a connection with way back
Speaker 4: in the day. Like I don't know, That's what I see.
Speaker 4: Like there's always going to be a little thing between them,
Speaker 4: whether it's platonic at the moment or not.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not. But also they have chemistry. I'm not saying, Look, Luke,
Speaker 3: maybe her soulmate. True love. Will find out in season
Speaker 3: seven how they end up. Danielle Stiffer and Lorlai have chemistry.
Speaker 3: They have a connection. They have a thing. Doesn't mean
Speaker 3: he's the best choice for her, but there's a they've
Speaker 3: got a thing. They sleep together all the time, you guys,
Speaker 3: it's not like they haven't slept together during the six
Speaker 3: seasons we've known them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1: So you're talking about Christopher Laurel I sleep together all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 3: Well not all the time, but they have during the
Speaker 3: seasons we've known them.
Speaker 4: They craik me if I'm wrong, But didn't she sleep
Speaker 4: with Christopher like right after she ended or was ending
Speaker 4: it with Max Medina.
Speaker 3: Remember they were at the house and I.
Speaker 4: Think they like and they like snuck out.
Speaker 3: Yeah they got chemistry, guys, they did, they'd.
Speaker 1: Do for you.
Speaker 3: They don't have to like it.
Speaker 1: I not feeling the chemistry between those two.
Speaker 3: That's a debate.
Speaker 1: It's just even just like.
Speaker 4: The way they looked at each other at the day
Speaker 4: Tavil like.
Speaker 3: And they have such a connection and somebody unspoken things.
Speaker 3: You don't have to like it.
Speaker 1: For I'm not seeing it. I don't feel it.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Yeah, don't be sorry, I.
Speaker 1: Know I am. I am sorry.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of Amy and Daniel versus Scott. It's
Speaker 3: also like, I don't dislike Christopher, right, you guys do, so,
Speaker 3: I don't know if that plays into your not feeling chemistry,
Speaker 3: And it adds to me feeling it. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but I like that bathroom scene. I was like, are
Speaker 3: they going to let you just do it?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, I'm.
Speaker 4: So like, you see, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 4: Once that bathroom scene happened, I saw the writing on
Speaker 4: the wall, I realized what was about to happen. And
Speaker 4: it was just I texted the group text this morning.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I have never been so annoyed at om
Speaker 4: a Girl's episode in all six seasons. I am so annoyed.
Speaker 4: I am not it is annoyed me.
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me very much.
Speaker 6: Do you know it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't. It's like I don't see the chemistry. I don't
Speaker 1: feel the chemistry, but it really doesn't bother me too much.
Speaker 1: Do you know why? Because I've got might you're making
Speaker 1: me crazy and I can always it's my go to No,
Speaker 1: here's my vacation.
Speaker 3: I know there's something melt.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just making me crazy. Moorwi in this
Speaker 4: episode is just making me crazy.
Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, that's a great point. I don't know
Speaker 3: if she's making me crazy.
Speaker 4: Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. She knows Christopher's
Speaker 4: not it for her. She knows that, like she knows
Speaker 4: that just going back to him is easy, that going
Speaker 4: back to him like that's not her person. She knows
Speaker 4: that whether or not they have chemistry or not, she
Speaker 4: knows that. And she's throwing away something that's so awesome.
Speaker 4: Maybe not at this moment, they're going to their difficulties,
Speaker 4: but she's just like, you know what, sleep with Christopher
Speaker 4: and forget about Luke for tonight. And it's like, why
Speaker 4: do you self sabotage all the.
Speaker 3: Good time ultimatums. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 4: No I wanted her to do that because Luke we
Speaker 4: didn't get get his stuff together.
Speaker 3: Like, we're not there yet. So do we have dinner
Speaker 3: first before we go to the elevator? Is it dinner first?
Speaker 3: Because there was some funny crap and that we do.
Speaker 1: After after the London party.
Speaker 3: We are at dinner, okay, so we have the London
Speaker 3: party first?
Speaker 1: This is this is uh Laura La at her best.
Speaker 3: Ah, Laura, I are you having some sort of a breakdown.
Speaker 3: She's so good because she tried to sort of do
Speaker 3: her stick to help Christopher and it's just so random
Speaker 3: and hilarious.
Speaker 1: Is it bad to have normal too? English? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just too good. This writing. It's nineteen twenties, it's
Speaker 1: the Algonquin Roundtable, it's the best comedy writers. It's Benchley,
Speaker 1: it's Pearlman, it's all these great short story writers. It's
Speaker 1: the best of the best. And this is a prime
Speaker 1: example of it, which is, you know, Amy and Dan
Speaker 1: are giving a global audience great literature. They're giving them
Speaker 1: the best of the best comedy writing that exists. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're crazy like a fox by S. J. Pearlman. Tell
Speaker 1: me you're not going to laugh your ass off. It's
Speaker 1: just little short stories about I don't know, fifteen of
Speaker 1: them in there. It's the funniest thing you'll ever read.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 3: I don't know any of those fancy authors. You just
Speaker 3: said nothing, but you sound super smart.
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, they were the writers of that time
Speaker 1: and beyond that.
Speaker 3: Is when people say they threw this season away intentionally,
Speaker 3: I disagree. I just totally disagree. I think this episode
Speaker 3: is I think they went out with one of the
Speaker 3: best episodes ever.
Speaker 1: There's no question.
Speaker 3: I have to just say this. The movies were not
Speaker 3: their best. I want to redo all those movies, but
Speaker 3: this was really good. This is really good.
Speaker 1: So this is the two of them showing off.
Speaker 3: Like I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Look how good we are. I agree, Look at we're
Speaker 1: just gonna throw it down here, so something to remember
Speaker 1: us by. I agree with you because you ain't getting this.
Speaker 3: No, mo, I don't think they had anything in the
Speaker 3: first six seasons that was other than Vineyard Valentine and
Speaker 3: maybe two other episodes that was like poopy, This is
Speaker 3: like they're awesome, right anyway.
Speaker 1: So anyway, a great dinner table scene. Uh and uh,
Speaker 1: we just you know, we see uh, Lenny as a
Speaker 1: very balanced, very centered, grounded, caring, intelligent person with a
Speaker 1: sense of humor and probably way out of Christopher's league.
Speaker 1: I kind of way way way out of And I
Speaker 1: don't know what she found so appealing in Christopher. Did
Speaker 1: you think that there was amy? Did you feel chemistry
Speaker 1: between Linda and I.
Speaker 3: Think he's a cutie pie. No, there's nothing between Laura
Speaker 3: Harden and Christopher Lenny, but he is a cutie. I
Speaker 3: could see why if I were Lenny and I've just
Speaker 3: moved to Hartford and I get invited over and there's
Speaker 3: this cutie, I'd be like, oh, kuty, all right, this
Speaker 3: isn't too bad.
Speaker 1: All right. So now we're out in the driveway and
Speaker 1: Lenny hasn't left yet, and she apologized Laura I that
Speaker 1: she's blocking her in and they have a conversation.
Speaker 3: That was the only flag I had. Why it was
Speaker 3: a little bit like are you okay? Like she didn't
Speaker 3: really give me enough indication that she wasn't okay.
Speaker 1: No, I thought she gave plenty, because if you give
Speaker 1: too much, then it's bad acting. You're going to get
Speaker 1: into like you know, it was too much face acting
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: Right, But it's a little random that all of a
Speaker 3: sudden she's just willing to have a session in the back.
Speaker 1: Take it from somebody who knows. That was very well executed.
Speaker 1: It was very well performed.
Speaker 3: Fine, I believe your book. I believe it was.
Speaker 1: It was enough, trust me on that, because anymore would
Speaker 1: have been indicati and you don't want to it. You
Speaker 1: have to err on the side of caution. Uh And
Speaker 1: that's the mistake a lot of actors make, is they
Speaker 1: just go too far, and she never does, which is
Speaker 1: why she's so good. Right. Anyway, that was hysterically funny.
Speaker 6: Edit.
Speaker 1: It was one of the best edits, uh Gil When
Speaker 1: we smash cut right to her in the back of
Speaker 1: the seat talking about her problem. That's really good. Okay,
Speaker 1: then you know I'm fine, I gonna go all right
Speaker 1: bye God.
Speaker 3: Two huge revelations from the back of that car right
Speaker 3: out the gate. Yeah, you love Max. No, I've never
Speaker 3: loved anyone until Luke. Wow, I wanted to Christopher.
Speaker 1: Fine, Fine, Fine, what how did Christopher get into the scene?
Speaker 3: No, because she she.
Speaker 5: Never loved anyone until Luke, including Max, and that would
Speaker 5: also include Christopher.
Speaker 1: Well there were sixteen, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was a very poignant scene, very revealing, very powerful. Right.
Speaker 3: She says she feels crappy all the time. She can't
Speaker 3: take it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I loved the advice that Lenny gave her,
Speaker 5: like it was perfect. It's like, you need to either
Speaker 5: live with it the way it is or go for
Speaker 5: what you want and live with that consequence. But either way,
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to live with it. So decide what
Speaker 5: you want to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now I'm going.
Speaker 5: To Luke and grow a backbone and make your move.
Speaker 1: That didn't seem very psychologist to me.
Speaker 3: Because she was giving Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: She gave them too much give advice.
Speaker 3: I agree with you she gave a little bit.
Speaker 1: I thought she was overstepping her bounds.
Speaker 3: I agree with you there a little bit, but some
Speaker 3: give more advice than others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: She she left it up to Laurela.
Speaker 5: I mean she was basically she said, you don't have
Speaker 5: him the way that you want him, so either ask
Speaker 5: for what you want.
Speaker 1: Or what it is. That's her making a value judgment
Speaker 1: that she's has no knowledge of because it's patently false.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't a hint to an overstep. No, it's
Speaker 3: not false.
Speaker 5: She's she was absolutely right. Larelai isn't getting what she
Speaker 5: wants out of this relationship anymore.
Speaker 1: But Luke isn't going anywhere. He loves her. He just
Speaker 1: needs some time.
Speaker 3: I thought was look, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, okay, so you think Luke, you
Speaker 1: think there's a chance that Luke is going to back
Speaker 1: out of this marriage.
Speaker 3: I'm not thinking that.
Speaker 5: No, I'm I'm not thinking anything about Luke. I'm thinking
Speaker 5: of what we talked about last week, how Laura I
Speaker 5: has realized that she's kind of done with the whole thing.
Speaker 5: So it's it's a question of whether Laurel I wants
Speaker 5: to stay in this, not Luke. Lorelai is the one.
Speaker 5: Luke has shown that this is how it is. And
Speaker 5: so now it's up to Laurelai to decide if she
Speaker 5: can live with that or not.
Speaker 4: She's had enough and she's at her last final straw
Speaker 4: and this is it exactly.
Speaker 5: So I don't think it's about Luke backing out.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: We're talking about Laura backing out because she because she.
Speaker 1: Wants to start her life and she wants to have
Speaker 1: more another kid, and she wants to get it moving
Speaker 1: here right right right, And so that's what she.
Speaker 5: Was telling her, like either communicate that to Luke or
Speaker 5: continue to live with it the way it is, Like,
Speaker 5: like she said, the only person that can make laurel
Speaker 5: I wait is Laurela I. It's not up to Luke.
Speaker 5: It's up to laurel I what she's willing to put
Speaker 5: up with.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: This is finally, Like I'm going to rate this episode
Speaker 5: higher than I rated the last couple ones, because this
Speaker 5: is what I've been waiting for. I've been waiting for
Speaker 5: Laurel I to finally overcome that inertia. And I don't
Speaker 5: like how she did it. I think she completely went
Speaker 5: about it the wrong way. But I'm glad that she's
Speaker 5: not finally, like, you know, lurking behind trees and peeking
Speaker 5: out from.
Speaker 1: And and really that that that back in the back
Speaker 1: seat therapy session spawned one of the great lines of
Speaker 1: laurel ies entire library. I should have been a monkey
Speaker 1: Washington Square, snappy hat? Give me funny?
Speaker 6: Was that?
Speaker 1: Seriously? You know where Washington Square is in New York
Speaker 1: City's down by lay. All right, now we're back with
Speaker 1: Rory and Logan.
Speaker 3: I love this scene.
Speaker 1: Thanks, I did too, because it was everything to find
Speaker 1: where they were in their relationship. Tell me not to go.
Speaker 3: And they have chemistry.
Speaker 1: They do, boy do they have chemistry.
Speaker 3: And really good performances, just totally believable. She looked so cute.
Speaker 3: He's so cute.
Speaker 1: They he's a master, isn't He's?
Speaker 3: So he's great. I think he's a really good actor.
Speaker 1: He's great, isn't he ye?
Speaker 3: Because he's not just a one trick pony. Like he
Speaker 3: went on to do Good Good Wife and The Resident
Speaker 3: and he's really good in both. And he was the
Speaker 3: lead in The Resident and like deservedly so, like he
Speaker 3: was he's that guy's stud.
Speaker 1: He's really Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know he's on like American horror story. Now.
Speaker 3: I think we talked about that.
Speaker 1: Yes, watched it.
Speaker 3: I would he creeps me out, but I'd watch it
Speaker 3: for him. But it's a little too scary.
Speaker 1: Well that was a heartbreaking scene.
Speaker 3: Oh it really was.
Speaker 1: Tell me to go.
Speaker 3: That was painful. And the goodbye, Oh my god, we
Speaker 3: haven't gotten that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we're not there yet, We're not there, so painful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that scene. All right now.
Speaker 4: I felt like the one difference between them too versus
Speaker 4: Luke and Loralai is between Logan and Rory, they actually
Speaker 4: have decent communications. You're right, Like they actually communicate like
Speaker 4: well with each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I agree.
Speaker 1: That's a good point, especially one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: that is the key, as we all know, to successful relationships.
Speaker 1: All right. Now, we're back at Luke's and here we
Speaker 1: come with the big It starts off very funny because
Speaker 1: Ted Rooney doesn't want to pay for a full cup
Speaker 1: of coffee when he's only had a half a cup
Speaker 1: of coffee that he drank.
Speaker 3: This is a scene.
Speaker 1: And then Larelai comes in all hell, fire and brimstone,
Speaker 1: and Luke's got to take it outside. He's Uh, anyway,
Speaker 1: let's I think we've discussed this, but I think we're
Speaker 1: going to have a formal discussion.
Speaker 3: Of here's my question for you, guys. Her speech, she
Speaker 3: kind of gives a speech. Is she right?
Speaker 1: I think she was. Let me offer my outsider's opinion here,
Speaker 1: even though I was in the scene. It was an
Speaker 1: insider's opinion. I think it was. It got heated real fast,
Speaker 1: almost to the point of it being shrill. Oh so,
Speaker 1: how how is a man supposed to respond to that?
Speaker 1: Just buckle down and say yes? So, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not you know, I didn't write it.
Speaker 1: And have you ever been in a situation like this
Speaker 1: in your real life? Guys, it's a question for you.
Speaker 1: Have you ever done this to a guy I wanted
Speaker 1: to do this to? I don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not an ultimatums I don't. I don't like ultimatums either.
Speaker 5: I think it was the wrong approach. I don't blame her.
Speaker 5: I think I think the two of them needed a
Speaker 5: confrontation to like snap Luke out of it and make
Speaker 5: him realize that what he's been doing to Lorelai is
Speaker 5: not in her best interest or really in anyone's best interest.
Speaker 3: But she should have known.
Speaker 5: I mean, Luke very easily gets knocked off his axis,
Speaker 5: and she should have known better than to come at
Speaker 5: him like that, guns blazing, with an ultimatum, and she
Speaker 5: but I I mean, I can kind of see it
Speaker 5: because she was very worked up. She was, you know,
Speaker 5: practically hysterical at that point. She's just she's just had enough.
Speaker 3: And I think he should have grabbed her. I think
Speaker 3: he should have grabbed her and said don't go, don't
Speaker 3: walk away, like we are gonna work this out, hang on,
Speaker 3: and he sort of said, I'm trying to think here,
Speaker 3: Like I think he should have not let her walk away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no one, no one handled that situation the right way,
Speaker 4: like Laura. I should have gone in guns a blazing,
Speaker 4: guns a blazing, like you said, Suzanne. But also Luke
Speaker 4: shouldn't have just let her walk away, like he should
Speaker 4: have said, hey, I hear you, I know where you're
Speaker 4: coming from. Let's get a let's put a date on
Speaker 4: the calendar tomorrow, you know, or something had instead of
Speaker 4: just letting her walk away, that.
Speaker 1: Thing escalated pretty quickly and it got she got she
Speaker 1: was screaming at him, and it gets to that point.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, it was screaming. It was anger. She got angry,
Speaker 1: she went to another level of anger.
Speaker 4: I don't think so she was set anger.
Speaker 3: I think it's a girl upset, just so.
Speaker 1: Emotional, Okay, but I don't I don't know that. You know,
Speaker 1: he was so taken aback by that in the moment
Speaker 1: and so caught off guard by that anger because we
Speaker 1: have we seen her ever talk to him that way.
Speaker 3: Not quite. I said.
Speaker 1: What he was thinking was, you know, hey, you know
Speaker 1: you don't listen, rich girl, you don't talk to me
Speaker 1: this way, you know. I think his back went up
Speaker 1: and it was like, whoa, this is over the top,
Speaker 1: and I'm not having this. Nobody nobody talks him, nobody
Speaker 1: gives me orders, and I've got a situation and now
Speaker 1: I've got the woman I love just screaming in my face.
Speaker 1: So I don't know that there's a possibility that you
Speaker 1: can come over and just sort of grab somebody and say, hey,
Speaker 1: don't go. You know, he's not that guy.
Speaker 5: I picked up more confusion from him, like why is
Speaker 5: she so hysterical? Like what is going on right now?
Speaker 5: And then I think I think it kind of at
Speaker 5: the end of the conversation. He did get a little
Speaker 5: bit defensive, but I didn't really pick up on anger
Speaker 5: from him. I think he was confused to see. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he was where is all this coming from? Because he
Speaker 5: hasn't been seeing it this whole time. So even though
Speaker 5: it's been a slow build for those of us that
Speaker 5: have seen what Laurel I was going through, he hasn't
Speaker 5: seen that, and so to him, the whole thing was
Speaker 5: a surprise.
Speaker 1: Right, So I was referring to the anger coming out
Speaker 1: of her toward him, which put it back on his heels. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I guess in those things, nobody wins, do they. Now
Speaker 1: we we get these nice sweeping shots of we get
Speaker 1: we get Sam Phillips. There she is singing and playing
Speaker 1: the guitar, and that's Sam Phillips right there. And she's
Speaker 1: just such a great uh performer. I mean, now I
Speaker 1: want to go see her live somewhere, you know, because
Speaker 1: she was such a great vibe and such a great
Speaker 1: voice and such a such great melodies and these songs.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a real artist there, all right. So
Speaker 1: now we're now we go to apartment four and a
Speaker 1: knock on the door of apartment four and who was
Speaker 1: behind door number four. But are not a troubadour, but
Speaker 1: not a humidor, but a Christopher, thank you very much?
Speaker 3: And did everybody expect that? Like, Danielle, is that what
Speaker 3: you like? When the knock knock? Did you know that
Speaker 3: that was?
Speaker 4: I knew it. I knew this was I literally knew
Speaker 4: this was happening the second the bathroom scene happened. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And it's just annoying.
Speaker 3: And I wasn't annoyed.
Speaker 4: I'm so annoyed. It's just so captain obvious.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just wish like this might be a very unpopular opinion,
Speaker 4: but I'm just for me. I just felt like I
Speaker 4: was watching the same thing over and over and over again,
Speaker 4: like it's the fifth time I've seen this scene. But
Speaker 4: I was like, why aren't Why wouldn't like they make
Speaker 4: Luke hook up with Anna or something that would have
Speaker 4: been more entertaining for me or more shock value for me,
Speaker 4: But because it's Christopher was.
Speaker 3: Again called Gilmore girls.
Speaker 4: It's just I don't know, I was really annoyed.
Speaker 3: I thought I kind of tracked and I wasn't that
Speaker 3: mad about it. But that's going to be an unpopular opinion.
Speaker 1: Was it soapy.
Speaker 3: It was soapy. Yeah, it was soapy, and I love
Speaker 3: that and ninety nine percent of people will hate that.
Speaker 3: I love that stuff. So that's probably why I was like.
Speaker 4: Oh, I did too, But I didn't even think it
Speaker 4: was soapy. I just thought it was captain obvious, the same, same, same,
Speaker 4: Do we have a different storyline?
Speaker 1: That's the definition of soapie is captain?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I guess yes, that's pretty.
Speaker 1: Coming a mile away. Yeah, well, anyway, so there you go,
Speaker 1: and she goes on and.
Speaker 3: We don't know yet what maybe they're just going to talk.
Speaker 3: We don't know yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know. We know sophy, so we know.
Speaker 3: Well because at first she just goes in. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: don't get there's okay. I thought we were because it
Speaker 3: was soapy.
Speaker 1: We know what's going to happen.
Speaker 3: First we here, we get this sad goodbye that was
Speaker 3: really sad.
Speaker 1: Between using will happen.
Speaker 3: It's interesting how the Rory logan doesn't feel soapy. It
Speaker 3: feels drama, but not soapy. That really felt so genuine.
Speaker 1: And and uh uh you want to talk about face
Speaker 1: acting here? Yeah, Hey, Matt Zukri when that elevator door,
Speaker 1: he's not looking at her.
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: I've never seen a kid more devastated in my life.
Speaker 1: And it was like, you didn't tell me not to go?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 4: If a distracted by Rory's bangs?
Speaker 3: Through this, I was still okay past line Hi to
Speaker 3: William and Harry for me and he says I love you,
Speaker 3: and she goes, that's a lot better than.
Speaker 4: Saying yeah no. Her bangs like sometimes it would be
Speaker 4: fully across her phase and then other scene like other
Speaker 4: takes were across her face. I don't know this ban
Speaker 4: consist in.
Speaker 3: The bangs were I kind of liked it. She look cute.
Speaker 3: The bangs were fine. The car service for the year
Speaker 3: and she's got the the apartment for the year and
Speaker 3: car service for another month, and like the whole thing
Speaker 3: is just like she.
Speaker 1: Had two chances to stop him. Not just because I
Speaker 1: understand that, but he's putting out. He just keeps offering
Speaker 1: like hey, because he says to her, I don't want
Speaker 1: you to come with me to the airport because if
Speaker 1: you come, I won't get on the plane. Yeah that
Speaker 1: was so her move was to go.
Speaker 3: She can't be that he doesn't want to be the
Speaker 3: one to stop him from like growing up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or the reason, you know, like you make the
Speaker 4: decision on your own that you want to stay here
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't want to make that don't on her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she understood what Mitchen was saying, so it's like.
Speaker 1: He still wanted to hear it. We didn't, but we
Speaker 1: got some great face acting.
Speaker 4: I think if the scene with Mitcham didn't happen, that
Speaker 4: Rory would have tried or would have said stay, please stay, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Doe possibly yeah, yeah, I do yeah.
Speaker 1: And now the finale, The last scene that the Palladinos
Speaker 1: wrote during the run of the original initial run of
Speaker 1: the show was lorele I in bed with no clothes on,
Speaker 1: and then Gigi Rungeon says, Daddy, Daddy, is she sick?
Speaker 1: And I think she's sick in many different ways, with grief,
Speaker 1: maybe with she's a little I don't know, she's confused. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's she's confused. So the show begins with her thinking
Speaker 1: about her life and what she wants, and the show
Speaker 1: ends with her thinking about what she has just done
Speaker 1: to her life. Is she in a more more empowered
Speaker 1: place at the end of the show than she was
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show. What's your opinion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's in a worse.
Speaker 3: Spot, I do, but I like a complicated spot for sure.
Speaker 4: She like started down here, then she went up and
Speaker 4: finally voiced her feelings, and then now she just took
Speaker 4: a big downward spiral.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she.
Speaker 5: I think it was just really impulsive and she just
Speaker 5: maybe subconsciously felt like she just needed to really drive
Speaker 5: that final nail into the car and this was going
Speaker 5: to be what does it?
Speaker 4: I also think when she decided to go to Christopher's house,
Speaker 4: she decided that she was going to sleep with him.
Speaker 4: I don't think she was there just to like get,
Speaker 4: you know, like a friend's opinion on her situation. She
Speaker 4: went there knowing that they were going to sleep together.
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 1: I think it was a power thing. I think she
Speaker 1: wanted to feel her power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and somebody that just loves her.
Speaker 5: I wish that Christopher had not gone along with it,
Speaker 5: like I wish.
Speaker 3: Oh, come on, though, he's got an unrealistic well I
Speaker 3: I think maybe maybe it is unrealistic.
Speaker 1: Character for a character that's spineless. Yeah, he's going to
Speaker 1: do the right thing.
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, he couldn't be happier.
Speaker 1: That's his character. That's his function.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I kind of agree with you, Susane,
Speaker 4: because the last episode he did do like he did
Speaker 4: do good by her, you know.
Speaker 5: Right, like he's taken the high road for and I
Speaker 5: feel like I have kind of the same feeling about
Speaker 5: Rory and Logan stealing the yacht, like I wish wrote Logan.
Speaker 3: Stop it, right, that's yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's less, it's less soapy.
Speaker 3: Right, unrealistic, But I get where your head's at. I
Speaker 3: just I just wish he.
Speaker 5: Instead of like, you know, jumping right into bed with her,
Speaker 5: he could have been more of a friend and let
Speaker 5: her vent or whatever.
Speaker 3: But he loves her. He loves her.
Speaker 1: That's risky going into season seven because you don't want
Speaker 1: to make him too.
Speaker 4: Likable, right, No, I'm with you, Susan.
Speaker 1: But I understand what you're saying. But if he comes
Speaker 1: around full circle and he turns out to be hey,
Speaker 1: he's a really great guy in his situation, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if they want that, you know, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: has a function as a character.
Speaker 3: Here's the unpopular opinion. Aside from the fact that I
Speaker 3: do like Christopher. Look, I like Christopher whatever, I like
Speaker 3: the ending. I like that you do this. It's a cliffhanger.
Speaker 3: It's like, oh my god, it's it's blowing everything up.
Speaker 3: It's like, what is that happening?
Speaker 4: Couldn't have not had a more different reaction. I mean,
Speaker 4: it was not a cliffhanger to me. I literally saw
Speaker 4: him calling him all away. I'm like, Okay, I'm waiting
Speaker 4: for the scene. I'm waiting for the scene and waiting
Speaker 4: for the scene.
Speaker 3: It came.
Speaker 4: I was annoyed, and then I just I was just annoyed.
Speaker 4: I was in such a bad mood.
Speaker 3: After I was like, yeah, I'm like stoked for season seven.
Speaker 4: Really I'm not. I just was like, God, I just
Speaker 4: want I wanted I wanted it to be different. I
Speaker 4: didn't want it to be a Christopher payoff.
Speaker 3: I didn't what do you want? Max?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: I would have loved Max. That would have been amazing.
Speaker 4: I thought that would that would have been really fun.
Speaker 3: Jason, Jason, Because this is just getting us to see, like, right,
Speaker 3: if Luke would have done what I wanted him to do,
Speaker 3: it would have been a to that could have just
Speaker 3: been a whole different Season seven. Do you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying. It's like, right, but as a viewer, I'm
Speaker 3: tired of being dissatisfied.
Speaker 1: Right, I want to get's an interesting payoff, that is
Speaker 1: an interesting point and.
Speaker 3: Joy that is.
Speaker 1: Six years of chronic dissatisfaction for the fans.
Speaker 3: I am not I'm enjoying the point, Yeah it is,
Speaker 3: but I'm enjoying the curveball. I'm like, Okay, it's not
Speaker 3: a curveball.
Speaker 1: It's a pizza pie in your face again again.
Speaker 4: While you're trying to clean off the other sauce from
Speaker 4: your face, You're like, again, I haven't.
Speaker 1: Again, Jesus again. This is what I get for being
Speaker 1: a Gilmore girl.
Speaker 3: I mean, here's my thing. You guys love Amy and Dan, right,
Speaker 3: you love them. You're like, this is a perfect episode.
Speaker 3: Then I trust they know what they were doing and
Speaker 3: I liked it, So I think they did it. I think.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm in m they know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: It. I don't think the fans are too happy with
Speaker 1: this episode.
Speaker 3: And with a scene well we'll see.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I don't think they were too happy
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I didn't like it.
Speaker 3: I was at the time too. I was at the time.
Speaker 1: At this point, they're probably saying, you know and all.
Speaker 1: I sound like a broken record, but it's like, where
Speaker 1: the hell's the wedding?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't we're not ready for it yet.
Speaker 1: No, the fans are more than ready for it. They
Speaker 1: were ready for it.
Speaker 4: See I do like a runaway bride wedding, Like do
Speaker 4: something with that something.
Speaker 3: There's a wedding, wedding.
Speaker 1: Be positive, life affirming guys.
Speaker 3: Say they ran off and a looped, Say they ran
Speaker 3: off and a loaped? What is season seven?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: Just them being happy?
Speaker 1: How about Luke shows up in April hating Laura instead
Speaker 1: of blinking Christopher. Why doesn't Luke show up in an
Speaker 1: elvis suit and said, hey lady, or I'm taking you
Speaker 1: to Nashville. I'm gonna marry you, you know, and have
Speaker 1: a big, cheesy wedding.
Speaker 6: Or why not?
Speaker 5: There's Yeah, there's them being happy. It's okay them being
Speaker 5: happy because there was always you know, a fight with Rory. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we never got to enjoy them being a happy couple.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if Laura and Luke ended up together, there's so
Speaker 4: many outlying factors that can screw things up. April and uh,
Speaker 4: Max Medina Christopher, like you can't have Christopher come back
Speaker 4: and try to sleep with Laurlai while she's married to Luke.
Speaker 3: Like you could have all that happening.
Speaker 1: But it's like this this nothing can stop this love.
Speaker 1: Nothing right. That's why it should have been Oh well
Speaker 1: it wasn't.
Speaker 3: Hi, Tarna has just joined Tara in our last two minutes.
Speaker 3: Would you like to give your thoughts on this episode?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I skipped this episode usually, so that's not my favorite.
Speaker 3: It's it's a rough one to watch. Oh, such a
Speaker 3: I disagree.
Speaker 1: Chronic dissatisfaction from the fan base because they want Lucan
Speaker 1: at Elvis suit dragging her off to I feel like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel for a Vegas for a quick wedding.
Speaker 1: I don't know what was said, but I don't want
Speaker 1: to drag it on.
Speaker 10: But for me, I feel like the worst part was
Speaker 10: that she went to Christopher. I think if they broke
Speaker 10: off the wedding and the like and that was it,
Speaker 10: I wouldn't have been as upset as if if she didn't.
Speaker 1: Go to Christopher.
Speaker 3: That's the part that bothered me.
Speaker 9: Wow, But now I can.
Speaker 3: Go back and listen to what you guys said. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a good point.
Speaker 5: Though, it'll be a good point if they if Luke
Speaker 5: and Laurel I had just broken up, that that would
Speaker 5: be one thing, but her actually going to Christopher like
Speaker 5: takes it to the next thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I was level no, next level of torture, dumb.
Speaker 3: I'm making a TV show here too, where I'm like
Speaker 3: the door.
Speaker 1: And it's like turning into like Dante's Inferno. It's like
Speaker 1: the level.
Speaker 4: I want to be honest. I'm gonna be honest. If
Speaker 4: I was watching this for the first you know why,
Speaker 4: I am watching it for the first time. But like
Speaker 4: back then, I wouldn't have come back for the next season.
Speaker 4: I don't think.
Speaker 3: Well, interestingly, some people.
Speaker 1: Did it goes.
Speaker 3: That's interesting that you say that because it had a
Speaker 3: big ratings drop off in season seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have stopped. I would have been like,
Speaker 4: this is the same thing. I'm done. I'm over.
Speaker 3: I think if you like like, I like Christopher, so
Speaker 3: I like Amy.
Speaker 4: I like Christopher, and I'm still annoyed like God from
Speaker 4: his from a character's perspective, I enjoy him on my
Speaker 4: TV screen. All Right, I did not like that.
Speaker 1: What do we what are we giving this episode?
Speaker 6: Gang?
Speaker 1: We got to wrap this up?
Speaker 3: We get who goes first? I'll do it. I'll go
Speaker 3: first this time.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, what's you're measuring? Uh?
Speaker 3: What's your measuring sticks are? Give?
Speaker 1: Give the rating and then the measuring stick.
Speaker 9: Oh.
Speaker 3: I thought we give the measuring stick first.
Speaker 1: You give it second.
Speaker 3: I'm giving it.
Speaker 1: Ten volvos, ten volvos.
Speaker 3: Marilynd Rice cub song about a Volvo.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, uh, Danielle.
Speaker 4: I'm going to give it six point five.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: I'm going to give it six point five plate of Paea.
Speaker 8: Wow.
Speaker 4: It's my lowest I've ever rated an episode.
Speaker 9: I'm going to give it six point seven British flags.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow. Uh, Susan, I.
Speaker 5: Went up a little bit on my ratings. Just like
Speaker 5: I said before, I was happy that that Lurla I
Speaker 5: finally got out.
Speaker 3: Of her rut. So I give it eight.
Speaker 5: Uh Rory Gilmore Astronomy buildings to scale.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm going to rate it two ways. Up until
Speaker 1: the last scene, I'm giving it a ten. But that
Speaker 1: last scene I'm giving a zero. Oh okay, so that
Speaker 1: that's an average. So I'm gonna it's gonna take it
Speaker 1: down to I mean, for me, it's drifting around. It
Speaker 1: was such an enjoyable episode to watch, though, and it
Speaker 1: was so disappointing at the end. I agree, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be down there. Can one scene effect a score
Speaker 1: that much.
Speaker 6: Now, you know?
Speaker 1: Just such a brilliant episode, just such a brilliant episode.
Speaker 1: And then that last scene. Yeah, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be down there in the sixes with you guys.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to give it a ten. For me,
Speaker 1: it was a ten to ten all the way, ten plus,
Speaker 1: and then that last scene. I was just like, oh boy,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna give it a six point seven three
Speaker 1: seven already bed sheets?
Speaker 3: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Inappropriate ending to disappointing season six.
Speaker 3: I just don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not, but it's such some of the best writing
Speaker 1: was in season six, some of the great jokes, some
Speaker 1: of the great performances in season six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why do we give season six? Overall? Don't give
Speaker 3: it yet, But I think over the next you know
Speaker 3: a little bit here, we're going to do some special
Speaker 3: things for everybody before we start season seven. I want
Speaker 3: to know what everybody's take was on season six.
Speaker 1: But not yet, Yeah, not yet. All right, So that's
Speaker 1: going to wrap her up, folks.
Speaker 3: Season six. We only have one season one? What was
Speaker 3: your favorite line, did anybody have I gave mine during.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we kind of game during Susanne.
Speaker 5: Mine was at Richard and Emily's. When Laurel I said,
Speaker 5: it's the astronomy building. You have to be able to
Speaker 5: see it from outer space.
Speaker 1: Danielle, did you have one?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Mine was three. Sorry I have to say all three,
Speaker 4: but it's between one and then I can't. It's between
Speaker 4: Patty and Luke. Patty goes, there's nothing sexier than a
Speaker 4: man in tights. Luke says, stop imagine me imagining me
Speaker 4: and tights Patty, and she goes, it's a free country, Honey.
Speaker 3: I don't have one on me, but I have one
Speaker 3: that we didn't do yet, which I'm sure we'll break
Speaker 3: down in pop culture. But I won't be ignored Dan
Speaker 3: because for those people that got it, I had to
Speaker 3: google that.
Speaker 5: Oh I have a backup if you want it.
Speaker 3: Oh, sure, I'll take your back up.
Speaker 5: My backup was Taylor saying there's no jumping in the
Speaker 5: town square.
Speaker 3: Remember one, Susanne, what what was your top one? I
Speaker 3: missed it?
Speaker 5: Oh the when Laurel I said it's about the big lettering,
Speaker 5: it's the astronomy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sorry from literally just said that two seconds ago.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, Amy.
Speaker 1: I don't have a favorite line. The entire episode of
Speaker 1: until the last scene is my favorite line. There were
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