WEBVTT - Rerun: Formula 1 - 101 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.800 Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio. 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:14.640 Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host, 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.720 Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio. 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.560 And how the tech are you? You know, folks? I 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.000 had planned to have a brand new episode come out today, 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:26.479 but technical issues got in the way. And yes, I 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.000 am aware of the irony, and it's one of those 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.920 irritating things where I haven't yet tracked down the actual 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:37.280 source of the problem. So that has taken up a 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.240 lot of my time today and it means that I 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:43.480 did not get a new episode recorded. However, I would 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.400 never want to leave you without an episode of tech Stuff. 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.720 So here's one that was recorded a few years ago. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:53.680 On August two thousand nineteen, we published it. It's about 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:57.200 Formula one racing. It's called Formula one one oh one. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:01.720 And on this episode, I had the amazing guest of 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.640 Scott Benjamin on the show. Mr Scott, hope you are 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.759 well and uh yeah, I thought we could go back 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.319 and listen to this so that we could go fast. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:14.800 Even while we're sitting still today we are tackling a 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:20.000 listener request. Michael Peach asked me ages ago if I 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:24.200 could talk about Formula one race, cars, Formula one racing, 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.160 what's it all about? How does that work? And I thought, 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.240 you know, I'm not really a car guy, like I've 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:35.640 done car topics before, but it requires an enormous amount 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.040 of research on my part because I don't I don't 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.360 really know cars. So it it's it's like it's extra 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.480 work for me. Not that I don't, you know, mind 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.000 doing some extra work, but that's asking a lot. And 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:51.000 then I thought, wait a minute, there's a dude who 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.520 literally sits on the other side of the table from 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:57.280 me at our workstations. His name is Scott Benjamin and 0:01:57.360 --> 0:02:00.200 he's not doing anything. So I'm just gonna grab him 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:02.680 and pull him into the studio. Scott, welcome to the show. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.320 Did you just say not doing anything? Okay, that's totally 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:07.720 at Scott's doing a lot of stuff. I'm doing some 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.839 stuff over yeah. Now and then, so Scott, first of all, 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:13.799 tell our listeners what you have been doing, because they 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.079 may not be aware of the shows you're working. Well, First, 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:18.600 thank you for having me on your show. I really 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:20.519 appreciate it. Every time I'm here, I have a good time, 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:24.799 So let's keep that up. Okay, absolutely, And uh, I've 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.440 been working on some other stuff. I've been cash for 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:30.040 a couple of years. I've been doing some true crime stuff. Yeah, 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.680 you might. You might recognize Scott's voice if you've listened 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.560 to a Monster for example. Yeah, Voice of the Zodiac. Yeah. 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.200 And I've got my own show, which is called Insomniac. 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:41.120 I've been doing that and that's kind of wrapping up 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.360 right around now. And I've got a couple of a 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.200 couple of car shows that are coming up soon and 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.080 one has already been released. The other one we're kind 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.280 of holding off on. But um, it's no secret. I 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.919 don't think, I mean we are. We're going to re 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.360 release car stuff. I'm gonna come back on the show 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:58.720 just me, just myself. Ben will not be with me, 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:00.840 and I'll explain all of that at the beginning of 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:04.160 the of the series. And there's no big fight or 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.560 anything like that, but just Ben and I are always 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.480 in a big fight. But you've been you're you're you're 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.560 still you're still close. No, no, so yeah, we're still 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.520 tight and everything. He's just got a lot going on, 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:14.639 more than more than a lot of us do. So 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.080 there's that, and then I also have another show called 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.480 The Fast Track, and The Fast Track is a lot 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:23.600 like car stuff, only it's it's more focused on things 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.720 that go fast, people to go fast, ways that we 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:31.000 go fast. Um, just components, you know, race series, anything 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.320 about speed and going quickly and how we can get 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.080 there faster, and that's that's what it's all about. Awesome, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.640 So you are clearly the go to guy if we're 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:43.520 gonna talk about Formula one and Uh, in the interest 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.160 of full disclosure, guys, I was not joking when I 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.560 say I'm not a car guy, and I'm certainly not 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.000 a race car guy. I've I've never really watched racing. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.040 I'm aware of it from the sort of the cultural 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.320 touchstones that are out there, and uh, you know, I'm 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.200 aware that there are different kinds of racing. You know, 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.800 there's the Formula one, there's stock car racing. You know, 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.320 there's there's NASCAR, which is sort of an offshoot of 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:11.720 the stock car racing. But beyond that, I wouldn't have 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:16.680 necessarily been able to differentiate them. And I didn't really 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.320 know much about Formula one before looking back into this, 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.480 apart from you know, seeing it in movies and stuff. Uh. 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:26.400 And I remember joking with you Scott this morning, I said, well, 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.520 to me, the history of race car, uh, driving, race 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.640 cars and and and races in general kind of boil 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.320 back to the day the second car rolled off the 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.440 manufacturing plant and people started wondering, I wonder which of 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.200 these two can go faster. It's essentially true, and it 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:44.960 really did happen that way. I mean, that's that's what 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:46.880 it was. As soon as there were enough cars to 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:49.799 get together, they started a race or so you would 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.680 get to a certain point faster. Yeah. And a lot 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.679 of those early races it wasn't even just about speed. 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.760 It was because cars were so new, it was literally 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.640 seeing which one of these connects make that trip. There 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:06.200 were reliability tests, right, like like will this car actually 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.680 make this this trip from it was almost always Paris 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:13.400 to something else, like the French were gaga that's French 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:17.799 for walsa for for car racing. Uh. And in fact, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.560 the the history of Formula one, if you look at it, 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:26.000 really has its roots in an earlier part of racing, 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:30.159 the whole grand pre concept, right absolutely, yeah, yeah, So 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.120 we're talking about you know, turn of the century, turn 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:36.000 of the twentieth century, and more than the early early 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.120 dawn of automobiles is when we're talking about you know, 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.279 the racing beginning, like you were talking about, you know, 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.440 when there's just more than a few in a field 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.520 and they're trying to get somewhere or trying to you know, 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.760 prove their endurance by by you know, racing twenty six 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:49.360 miles or whatever it was. You know, it took some 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.599 all day. Yeah, because there's their top speed might be 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:56.159 like fifteen kilometers an hour, yeah, exactly, And and the 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.880 roads and the conditions and the vehicles themselves, and it's 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.680 just there's so many factors that go into why these 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.680 races were just, um, it's brutal on the person that 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.000 was you know, the in the driver's seat, were in 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:08.960 the passenger seat, and mechanics seed or however you want 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.320 to put it. Um a lot of times, you know, 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.400 it came down to what the driver could stand. There 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.640 was these are open cockpit cars and they were they 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.040 were really really punishing on the person that was driving. 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.000 The wheels were not inflatable tire wheels because the rope 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.520 first of all, those had not really been invented yet. Also, 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:27.920 the roads certainly were not uh in good enough shape 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.360 to allow that kind of wheel to last for very long. No, 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.960 these are wagon trails. Yeah, so you're talking about like 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:37.400 hard rubber wheels or sometimes like metal wheels on these things. 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.719 You know, so you can imagine if you've ever been 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.880 in a bumpy car ride, that's not even coming close 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.880 to what this experience was. Yeah, exactly. You know, the 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.400 tires were not pneumatic tires or binding means, so a 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.680 lot of times they were really really rough ride. But 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.159 you know, the racing did begin early, early in the 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.640 night rather the twentieth century, and by the time you 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.800 get to round you know, the nineteen thirties, things have 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.760 gotten a lot better. I mean a lot better. We're 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:06.240 gon we're talking some enormous engines, maybe not the highest 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:09.440 horsepower output, but they are strong. I mean, they're putting 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:13.320 aircraft engine in cars at this point in race cars, 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.040 i should say, because you know they're obviously they're not 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.000 a street car. There, there's something a little bit more 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.480 than that. They're they're throwing you know, V sixteen engines 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.160 into cars, and you know, the manufacturers are starting to 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:25.440 get into it, and they're realizing that people are you know, 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:29.280 taking note of the manufacturers that win the race or 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.000 you know, they're they're proving that reliability, they're proving their speed, 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:34.680 they're proving you know, just what that they're they're backing 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.880 their product, they're they're throwing it out there for everybody 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.600 to see. And of course that translates to sales, and 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.000 racing has always translated to sales for for automakers, and 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.440 that's exactly why they get into it. And you know, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.720 early on, you know, we're we're here to talk about 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:51.640 Formula one, and uh, early on in the days that 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:55.320 we're talking about, thirties, there was no Formula one, right right, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:58.920 at this point, you had some formula in this sense 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.960 refers to us out of rules, right, so you would 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.080 have different sets of rules for different races, but they 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.440 changed all the time. In fact, Formula one rules have 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:13.560 changed significantly since they were introduced. They changed weekly. It's yeah, 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:15.840 to the point where you're like, why are you calling 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:20.040 it a formula. It's kind of like the flavor of 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.360 the week at this point, changing formula, But exactly it's 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:27.240 it's it's no coke classic. But the the formulas are. 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:32.520 The rules were usually things like they would govern how 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:36.160 heavy your vehicle could be, and then generally the capacity 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:40.839 of the engine, and there were some stretches where even 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.640 that was thrown out the window. There were the so 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:48.400 called Formula libre years, where that means formula free, right, 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.720 so you didn't have those restrictions. That really was around 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.120 when that happened. And this was also around the same 0:08:56.160 --> 0:09:00.840 time where to build these race cars it was a 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.440 really expensive endeavor. And we'll get into costs like modern 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:08.400 day costs later on, because while it was expensive back then, 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.400 it was peanuts compared to what it is today. Mind boggling, 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:14.120 isn't it. I mean, you've only shared with me a 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:17.040 couple of figures. I wanted to save the best for 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.640 the show because I think you'll hear my jaw hitting 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:26.199 the desk multiple times. But the car manufacturers started to 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:30.160 pull out around the late twenties early thirties, UH, in 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:34.280 order to focus on building out their their consumer cars, 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.680 because that's really when consumer vehicles were starting to take off, 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:41.760 and you started seeing the rise of these specialty manufacturers, 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.679 the Ferraris, the Bugattis, the Maserati's. And here there's a 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:47.640 couple of interesting things I want to point out about 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.839 that about those those manufacturers that are stepping in because um, 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:53.920 you know, and we should say this too that you know, 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.000 up until this point it's been called Grand Prix racing. Yes, 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.400 grand Prix motor racing, I think, is how they actually 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:01.959 said it. In Grand pre of course means I think 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.280 that means like great prize in French. Right, So big old, 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.400 big old honk and prize. Yeah, yeah, that's right, big trophy, right, 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.960 that's that's what you win. And uh and so you know, 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.920 early days of this type of racing, it was called 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.679 Grand Prix racing. There was no Formula one up until 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:18.760 a point that we're gonna get to in just a 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:21.640 moment here, but manufacturers were starting to step in there 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.760 like um um. Like Ferrari and f is a great 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.200 example is because he really just wanted to go racing. 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:29.760 That's all I wanted to do. He didn't want he 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.440 didn't want a road car, and he had to build 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:34.880 a certain number of road cars at a certain point 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:37.800 in order to fund his racing program. That's what he did. 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.000 So he started to build a company to fuel his 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:44.520 racing ad exactly. Yeah, So Ferrari, the birth of Ferrari 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.480 is really because of his desire to go racing. He 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.080 wanted to, you know, the best racing machine, but he 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.760 had to build and sell cars to the to the 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:57.280 public in order to fund that program. And it kind 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.240 of became this, uh, I don't know what you call it, 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.480 the way it's kind of this back and forth where 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.480 you know, it's like a balancing act like if I 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.320 if I build Okay, if I build twenty cars this year, 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.760 I can afford to race one more season. If I 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:11.800 build eight cars next year, I'll be able to afford 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.040 another race car and do it for two more seasons 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.040 or three more seasons or whatever. And it just became 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:17.480 this thing that grew and grew and grew, and the 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.480 team's got bigger, the cars got more expensive and faster, 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.560 and he was more competitive on the track, and he 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.160 had to build more rate more street cars, which he 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.719 didn't really enjoy at first. He didn't want to do that. 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.560 He just just wanted the racing programs. And I know, 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.120 and it's it's crazy, isn't it. That Like now when 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.040 you look at Ferrari, there were a fantastic road card. 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.920 Of course they've got a great racing program still, of course, 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.199 I mean that's what the whole company is based on. 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.760 But you know, they do build some incredible and just 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.120 incredible street machines as well, and you know they always 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.440 were great, just he was just more doing it, I guess, 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:54.160 just out of his own own selfish needs really and 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.160 you know, early on the initial days. Well, and this 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.319 also kind of ties in, and we're talking a lot 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.080 about the pre Formula one day, because it's really important 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.840 to understand why Formula one came around when it did 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.880 in those pre days. So in the very early years 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.800 you had sort of French domination in in these in 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.440 these races of France was uh, first of all, France 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:18.640 was hosting most of the Grand Prix races and also 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.120 was fielding at least half the vehicles in most of 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.200 these races as well, so clearly they were going to dominate. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:27.480 After that, you started to see the rise of the 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.040 Italian vehicles with the Ferraris coming in and really starting 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.599 to challenge that. And then following that you started to 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:38.160 see Germany really push hard to get into this space 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:42.679 too with German engineering, and this became not just a 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.720 sports thing but a political thing because it's if you're 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.880 paying attention, this is the same as the rise of 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:54.680 Hitler and Hitler was very much determined to have Germany's 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:59.440 profile raised in all fields of engineering and science, largely 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.199 as a sort of a domination play. And you know, 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.200 we also saw this in the Olympics. We saw it 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.600 in also any place where Germany was going to have 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:10.160 a place on the world stage. Hitler wanted Germany to 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:12.680 be at the very top of that. And so you 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:16.080 saw a lot of pressure a lot of state sponsored 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.280 programs in Germany to try and and boost their own 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:24.800 performance in the UH in the racing world. Although I 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.800 should also add that even state sponsored only covered part 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.480 of the cost of developing these vehicles, because that's how 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.320 expensive they were. You couldn't even have an entire country 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:39.079 behind you instill compete. You hadn't have more money than that, sure, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.600 and that's why we see teams often come and go 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.520 in the series, and even now, a lot of teams 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.240 just simply can't afford to compete. And we're talking about major, 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.840 major manufacturers. They just don't see enough return on investment 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.200 and a lot of times and or they may have 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.480 come into it with only the plan to operate in 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.000 there for a few years, learn what they can and 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.120 then get out. Yep. So through all this we get 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.840 to World War Two, and of course, during World War Two, 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.040 the Grand Prix stop. I mean, obviously there were more 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.640 important things going on at that point. But as soon 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.600 as World War Two was over, the world started to 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:16.559 return to to normal, and even before World War two 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.600 had completely ended in all theaters that it ended in Europe, 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.040 they were already starting to plan the next round of 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.560 Grand Prix, which would take place. By nineteen forty six 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.880 they started holding these races again. Yes, nineteen forty six 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:30.920 and nineteen forty six is an important year because I 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.800 think that was when they held the very first official 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.880 Formula one race. And the thing is it wasn't um 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.720 It wasn't actually formalized until one year later, I believe, 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:44.960 until nineteen forty seven. And then the first official I 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.280 guess if you want to go with like the absolute 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:51.120 official world class you know race, world class Formula one race, 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.160 the World Championship race, was held in nineteen fifty and 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:57.560 this wasn't at Silverstone in the United Kingdom. Yeah, So 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.040 these were all sort of the these stepping stones to 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:05.480 establishing what truly would be Formula one, which again we're 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.080 gonna go more into in our our next section. After 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.200 we come back from the break, we're going to talk 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.600 more about what the Formula one rules were when they 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:17.120 were originally put in place. That would obviously change a lot. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:20.200 And I also have some questions for Scott because the 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:24.480 rules indicate things like like engine volume, and I need 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.880 to understand more about what that means. And that's why 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:29.960 I have him here. I'll do what I can. Yeah. No, 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.680 I un fortunately I know a little bit about it, 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.960 so we can talk about kind of what these are. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.560 But these are things that these are terms that would 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:41.600 pop up around around racing that because I was not 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.520 in that world. To me, we're just it was like Greek, 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.840 completely understand, just totally a mystery to me. So yeah, 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:51.560 now we finally get up to where you have this 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:56.000 organization in UH in Europe that has formalized the set 0:15:56.040 --> 0:16:01.920 of rules. Yeah, yeah, and so they got this set. Now. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:06.960 By the way, if you're wondering, are there other Formula races, Yes, 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.720 there's Formula two, there's Formula three, there's Formula four. There's 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:14.760 also Formula E, which is for electric vehicles. Um, and 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.400 we'll talk a little bit about the differences largely between 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.520 Formula one and Formula two, just on a very brief 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.240 level in our next segment. But before we get into that, 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.800 we're going to really dive into some some engine stuff 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.040 in a minute, and uh, I'm gonna need to take 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:34.480 a quick break to steal myself for this experience. So 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:45.400 when we come back more about Formula one. Okay, So 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:49.240 we get to the point where Formula one rules are set, 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:53.160 and here's how I understand the rules to be based 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.480 on my research. And Scott, if I if I go 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.400 way wrong, just you know, not to use a pun, 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.680 but steer me back on track. Okay. One thing, one 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.600 thing I didn't mention earlier was one of the big 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.720 differences between Formula one racing and say your your typical 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:12.880 like your NASCAR races, is that the circuits on Formula 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:16.160 one involve lots of different turns left and right right. 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.560 That it's not like a big oval like you would 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.439 see in a lot of race car races. Now, these 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.720 are road courses, so there's elevation changes, there are left 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:25.520 and right turns. As you said, Um, it's not the 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.120 high banked ovals like we're talking about in in NASCAR 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.560 or you know, some other forms of racing. It's this 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:33.640 is a it's a challenging race. I mean they're all challenging, 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:38.199 but this becomes a sport where the person behind the 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.240 wheel really does need to be an athlete. And if 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.960 you don't believe me, try We talked about this off air, 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:45.800 but try going go karting at an indoor track for 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.679 maybe ten fifteen minutes at a time. You're exhausted. When 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.159 you're done, Yeah, you'll make And that's just go karting. 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.320 And that's and that's just for ten or fifteen minutes. 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:55.920 The Formula one race, by the way, has a time 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.639 limit of two hours on a regular race, assuming no 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.920 red flag conditions pop up. Yes, so you know, no 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.760 doubt about it. These guys are athletes. Yeah, and and 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:10.280 you could experience uh forces up to five G in strength, 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.480 five times the the force of gravity on you in 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:16.520 some of these turns. And they're taking, like I said, 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:21.280 turns left and right. Um, so it is it Also 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.480 Formula one cars, today's modern ones, which we'll get to 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:27.800 a little bit later, go a little faster than the 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.520 fastest NASCAR cars, like by five miles per hour. It's 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:33.359 like two is the top for NASCAR generally speaking. In 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.919 two oh five for Formula One, but it's also a 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.399 very different experience. It is. Yeah, and we're talking about 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.320 average speeds where you know, going in a circle. You know, 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.040 I hate to use that because a lot of people 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.200 say that's nothing, but going in a circle and turn 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.439 and left, it's not. It's not that easy for NASCAR. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.080 It's also incredibly brutal. It is difficult. Yes, it's it's 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.480 more difficult than you would think. But uh but but honestly, like, um, 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.439 you know, when we're talking about average speeds, I mean, 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.600 these guys the cars will rate a lot faster, lot 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:05.080 quicker than a NASCAR would and they can break a 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:07.520 lot harder than a NASCAR car would. And so when 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.040 you talk about average speeds, you're talking about over the 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:13.040 course of a road course versus a an oval. It's 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.879 a significant difference the type of racing that it is. 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.640 So some of the basic rules for Formula One when 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.960 it was first coming out was that originally there was 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:31.040 no weight limit on vehicles. You did have different um uh, 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.960 engine volumes that were allowed. If you were using a 0:19:34.000 --> 0:19:37.520 turbo charger or super charger, then you are limited to 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:42.920 c C, which Scott kindly informed me does not mean 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:46.800 carbon copy in this case, but cubic centimeter. We'll get 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:51.600 into that in a second. And then the the I 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.720 think that you could have up to three thousand cc 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:59.720 for an naturally aspirated engine, sure, which means it doesn't 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:02.320 have a supercharger, doesn't have a turbo or anything like that. 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:06.720 It's just it's breathing. It's breathing Air's so so this 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:08.560 was something that I actually had to look up because 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:12.320 again not a car guy, but naturally aspirated means that 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:16.159 it's using just the natural atmospheric pressure to feed oxygen 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.440 into the uh, the engine. That's what I mean. It's 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.320 not forced induction when I say it's breathing air. Of 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.480 course every engine breathe air. This one is simply just 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:29.359 you're right taking this taking the atmospheric um pressure. Yeah pressure, 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:31.640 yea atmospheric air. I guess you gotta put that way. 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:34.919 But a turbocharger or a supercharger, it's pushing air into 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.400 the engine. It's forced air induction, is what that is. Yeah, 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.000 you're using your you're forcing air into the engine. You're 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:44.040 creating additional horsepower by by running, by ramming more air 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:48.000 through there and fuel. Right, So that means that you're 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:52.439 you're able to uh to get fuel to the the 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:55.800 cylinders faster, and that's the cylinders are what we're referring 0:20:55.800 --> 0:20:58.800 to when we're talking about like CC, what you're really 0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:02.720 talking about is the volume that the cylinders can hold 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.240 based on the full stroke of the piston. It's the 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.159 displacement of the engine. So what you're looking at is 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.960 the the the amount of space. I guess I'm gonna 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:14.120 put this in the simplest way without really getting too much. 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.280