Speaker 1: Cut over that DJ Moore Zoe touchdown touchdown pairs. I
Speaker 1: am Jeff Jonihaclitz is on. Donnie got what was like
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Speaker 1: to life. Young, impactful, up and coming stars dotting the
Speaker 1: landscape from Conna Bdard to the Blackhawks, one of the
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Speaker 1: And with the Bears, it's quarterback Caleb Williams and wide
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Speaker 1: Episode number sixty six and Tommylake the historic US Highway
Speaker 1: sixty six are Route sixty six. These guys are helping
Speaker 1: pave the way for a new road to the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four season.
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you.
Speaker 1: You're in Maui now, so we're going to be separate
Speaker 1: for about a month here, but with Super Bowl winning
Speaker 1: Bears guard town there, I'm Jeff Jonihak. We'll review the
Speaker 1: new editions to the Bears and get some insight from
Speaker 1: general manager Ryan Poles, and our exclusive post draft chat
Speaker 1: will also have some of the scouts discuss the picks
Speaker 1: as well. I know that was a dramatic open, but
Speaker 1: I want to put it in some context, right, like,
Speaker 1: this is maybe one of the most exciting times in
Speaker 1: our history together almost thirty years work on this team
Speaker 1: and for what it could become years down the road.
Speaker 1: I know there's going to be a lot of growing
Speaker 1: pains along the way, but General Manager Ryan has done
Speaker 1: a heck of a job putting this roster together as
Speaker 1: it stands at the moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, for the last five months we've
Speaker 3: been talking about the presumed who. Now this is the
Speaker 3: first week that we can talk about the who is,
Speaker 3: and that is Caleb Williams, Roma Doonza.
Speaker 2: Amagaji and.
Speaker 3: The punter Taylor and a Booker, Austin Booker, the defensive
Speaker 3: end and the other free agents because nowadays, in the
Speaker 3: modern n NFL, you got to look at some of
Speaker 3: these free agents as super talented players. Unfortunately they went undrafted,
Speaker 3: but I don't think that decreases that they're desire at all.
Speaker 3: But I think when you look at the top of
Speaker 3: the list on down, it's gonna be fun to sit
Speaker 3: here and now talk about who are the new Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: And really you have to put Keenan Allen in there
Speaker 1: and Montes Sweat in the twenty twenty four draft class
Speaker 1: because you used twenty twenty four draft capital to get them.
Speaker 1: So when you look at it like that, wow wow.
Speaker 3: You know the thing about Caleb and the rest of
Speaker 3: the rookie crew, they don't have any NFL experience. When
Speaker 3: you talk about Montes Sweat and Keenan Allen, they have
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame experience and their career is on the
Speaker 3: upward trajectory. Even though Keenan Allen is in his young
Speaker 3: thirty so I'm excited to see what veterans like that
Speaker 3: can offer the locker room immediately in how depending upon
Speaker 3: their positions, they can offer the rookies academically.
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Speaker 1: Before we start breaking it all down and get our
Speaker 1: respective opinions, let's listen to our sit down interview after
Speaker 1: the draft with general manager Ryan Poles. First talk, congratulations,
Speaker 1: third draft is a general manager the charter franchise in
Speaker 1: the National Football League In any way, was this process
Speaker 1: different than the others?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 5: You know, every year that goes by, you get better
Speaker 5: and better at this and you have better feel instincts,
Speaker 5: you know, want to be patient, when to move, you
Speaker 5: better feel for the team around you, and so this
Speaker 5: one felt just right and I think it was right
Speaker 5: on Tom.
Speaker 1: Did you feel in the back of that pay this
Speaker 1: is the most important draft I've had so far and
Speaker 1: maybe i'll ever have.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, anytime that our quarterbacks involved. It's a
Speaker 5: big deal. I don't think as a group we put
Speaker 5: a lot of extra pressure on ourselves. We really leaned
Speaker 5: into our process and trusted in that, and it was
Speaker 5: really smooth.
Speaker 1: Described that process, the meeting to finalize the board, particularly
Speaker 1: the top ten and what were you bracing for in
Speaker 1: the top ten.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you work through other different scenarios. We ran simulations
Speaker 5: over and over and over again, just so we were
Speaker 5: we felt comfortable to be able to adapt to any
Speaker 5: thing that happened. The scenario A ended up playing out,
Speaker 5: which was awesome, but we were ready for anything that
Speaker 5: could have been moving up, that could have been moving back.
Speaker 5: Fortunately for us, we didn't have to give up anything,
Speaker 5: and we stood patient at nine and got the guy
Speaker 5: that we wanted.
Speaker 1: All right, So you did all your evaluations, You relied
Speaker 1: on the advice and the insight and the professionalism of
Speaker 1: your scouts, and did you go behind closed doors by
Speaker 1: yourself think it through, and it said, okay, this is
Speaker 1: the guy we're picking, and this is the way we're rolling.
Speaker 5: We have a real collaborative setup, you know. So everything
Speaker 5: that I was thinking, I was putting out there to
Speaker 5: the group, and you know, we have good debate, but
Speaker 5: there's some things that everyone sees is the right path
Speaker 5: for us, and everyone's on board.
Speaker 6: So it was good.
Speaker 1: At any point, was there a temptation or an offer
Speaker 1: or a call, even long before the process of really
Speaker 1: digging in on Caleb Williams to give up that number one?
Speaker 5: I had quite a few teams asking what I'd be
Speaker 5: willing to move. The answer was not at this time
Speaker 5: for the longest time. And then I think they ended
Speaker 5: up just kind of giving up on the whole thing
Speaker 5: and understood why I wasn't gonna move off the pick.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the exact moment, in the exact setting
Speaker 1: that you crystallized I'm taking this guy, taking him number
Speaker 1: one no matter what.
Speaker 5: Here, Yeah, it was after spending time with him, just
Speaker 5: having that one on one interaction, getting to know what
Speaker 5: matters to him, you know what motivates him, what are
Speaker 5: his goals, how does he treat his teammates, his work ethic.
Speaker 5: Once I started getting a feel for the person, that
Speaker 5: conviction started to come.
Speaker 1: Shortly after all right, take us to nine thought process there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we heard how you felt like, Okay, is this guy
Speaker 1: gonna ball room and dunes? And I talked about him way, way,
Speaker 1: way long before the draft.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yep, I love Rome obviously. With him again, I
Speaker 5: thought it was a fifty to fifty shot he was
Speaker 5: going to make it to us, and then I was
Speaker 5: nervous that teams might jump over us and grab him.
Speaker 5: So we did a lot of work in terms of,
Speaker 5: you know, putting feelers out to move forward just in
Speaker 5: case we had to. But at the same time, that's
Speaker 5: the hardest part of the draft process is do you
Speaker 5: want to give up a lot to get one player?
Speaker 5: And you've got to be really disciplined in that. So,
Speaker 5: you know, we were all sweating. I kind of joked
Speaker 5: that Ian kind of had to hold me back from
Speaker 5: giving up, you know, more and more picks to go
Speaker 5: get him.
Speaker 1: And it worked out perfectly, right, And that's what friends
Speaker 1: are for, yes, exactly, bes friends all right. Third round,
Speaker 1: you had many, many options in terms of offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: One of the best we've seen in a while the
Speaker 1: draft class. Karanamagaji, local guy, another Chicago kid that really
Speaker 1: resonates with you, obviously, but so does eighty four inch
Speaker 1: wingspan or whatever it is in thirty six in Charms.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, we love his past protection he's got feet,
Speaker 5: he's got hands, he's got length anchors. Well, we love
Speaker 5: as tenacity how he finishes, and we believe that, you know,
Speaker 5: with some good coaching from Chris Morgan, we can take
Speaker 5: his game to the next level and that increases competition
Speaker 5: on our offensive line, which makes everybody better.
Speaker 1: Thinking this through rookie quarterback, field position is going to
Speaker 1: be critical, and I think kick returns are going to
Speaker 1: impact that significantly. A punter does the same thing. To
Speaker 1: go with the young man from Iowa, Tory Taylor. What
Speaker 1: was significant about his leg?
Speaker 5: Tory not only has a big leg that can flip
Speaker 5: the field that's important, especially in soldier field, but his
Speaker 5: ball placement on punt and pins is some of the
Speaker 5: best touch I've seen ever when evaluating punters. This guy
Speaker 5: was putting the ball in a certain you know area,
Speaker 5: over and over and over again off his foot and
Speaker 5: it was incredible to watch and really had a front
Speaker 5: row seat at the Senior Bowl and saw him do
Speaker 5: it consistently. And part of the goal is we want
Speaker 5: to put a lot of stress on our opponent. And
Speaker 5: I can tell you from experience, when you run out
Speaker 5: on the field and you're coming out from the five
Speaker 5: yard line or the two yard line. It's an uncomfortable
Speaker 5: feeling when you look ninety eight yards across and say,
Speaker 5: you know, this's gonna be a long journey in the
Speaker 5: playbook shrinks, So that's going to allow our defense to
Speaker 5: play even more aggressive, which then in turn should get
Speaker 5: the ball back and create more points and really good
Speaker 5: field position.
Speaker 1: You get hungry for an edge, and you got a
Speaker 1: piece of clay.
Speaker 4: Austin Booker round five through the Buffalo trade.
Speaker 5: Yep, Well said. Booker's got length, he has tenacity, He
Speaker 5: plays extremely hard, still working on his skills in terms
Speaker 5: of hand usage and winning consistently in the pass rush,
Speaker 5: and has to get a little bit bigger. But we
Speaker 5: do believe he's got the skill set to come in
Speaker 5: and help us with our pass rush and then over
Speaker 5: time develop and get stronger and become an impact player
Speaker 5: for us.
Speaker 1: We know what the importance of pro days and top
Speaker 1: thirties are, so you got to find if these guys
Speaker 1: are the chemistry for what you're built, what you've already built,
Speaker 1: and what you want to maintain.
Speaker 5: Right Yeah, And that's that's probably one of the most
Speaker 5: satisfying parts of where a roster is now not only
Speaker 5: do we have really good players on the roster, but
Speaker 5: we also have really good people. And a lot of
Speaker 5: times your first interactions are at these All Star games.
Speaker 5: They're on thirty visits where you can sit down and
Speaker 5: talk to him and get to know what they're all about.
Speaker 5: And that process has been really good for us, and
Speaker 5: I think that's why we've been able to do what
Speaker 5: we've been able to do in terms of building the roster.
Speaker 6: The right way.
Speaker 4: How about to Caleb in Rome pro days?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Caleb's Pro day was incredible. We spent extra time
Speaker 5: with him before the pro day, getting to know him,
Speaker 5: getting to understand what he sees and what he knows
Speaker 5: about the game of football from the mental side of it.
Speaker 5: Seeing Shane and Caleb work together watching film and going
Speaker 5: over some installs was fun to watch. You could tell
Speaker 5: there was good chemistry there. And then to the easy
Speaker 5: part for Caleb is when he throws the ball. That
Speaker 5: part was great. And then with Rome his pro day,
Speaker 5: he didn't do much his pro day, his combine was outstanding.
Speaker 5: You saw him compete and try to do every drill
Speaker 5: the best he absolutely could, and it meant something to him.
Speaker 5: He had he had intent with everything that he did,
Speaker 5: and it was a very very clean combine for him.
Speaker 4: How important is mini camp for these guys? Next step?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Yeah, next step? You know. I would say the mental
Speaker 5: part is the biggest strain. Now, this is a new playbook,
Speaker 5: a new style for a lot of them, and they're
Speaker 5: really gonna have to get into the playbook. They're really
Speaker 5: gonna have to spend the extra time and become pros
Speaker 5: with their preparation habits. On top of starting to get
Speaker 5: in shape. A lot of these guys have traveled, they've
Speaker 5: had pre and post draft parties, hanging out with family
Speaker 5: and just running forties and short shuttles. So it's time
Speaker 5: to get in shape and time to get their mind
Speaker 5: right in terms of learning the playbook.
Speaker 1: You got a bunch of sub twenty five year olds
Speaker 1: twenty two to twenty five, big number and then even
Speaker 1: a little more before thirty. For a young quarterback coming in,
Speaker 1: is that easier than a room full of veterans that
Speaker 1: he's having to impress.
Speaker 5: Describably pros and cons on both sides. I think for
Speaker 5: his ability to start to lead fast, that's going to
Speaker 5: be important to have a bunch of young guys around
Speaker 5: him to understand him. But on the other side of
Speaker 5: that too, you know, we're going to lean into our coaches,
Speaker 5: who you know Fluse talks about all the time about
Speaker 5: having teachers. They're gonna be critical in his development as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, Tommy, what struck you about his analysis of how
Speaker 1: he went about putting this draft clash together and in
Speaker 1: particular the top two guys in particular here.
Speaker 3: You know, when whenever you listen to a general manager
Speaker 3: talk after the draft, it wasn't that he was convinced,
Speaker 3: so that he was convinced himself. And I think that's
Speaker 3: really important when you look at the importance of these
Speaker 3: decisions that were made. He knew after having dinner with
Speaker 3: Caleb and spending some time with them, that this was
Speaker 3: his guy. And when you're in control of the draft
Speaker 3: at the first pick, yeah, you can listen to calls,
Speaker 3: but sometimes your phone goes unanswered and everybody realizes that
Speaker 3: you've made the decision. And then for Ian Cunningham, his
Speaker 3: assistant to talk him out of a possible trade to
Speaker 3: Roma Doonza to be that convinced that that was the
Speaker 3: guy he wanted, and then he had the opportunity to
Speaker 3: get him at nine without disrupting any draft collateral, and
Speaker 3: I'm excited about the other three guys they got as well.
Speaker 3: I just think it was probably the most convincing of
Speaker 3: the talent they took by Ryan Poles, even though I
Speaker 3: think we are all convinced that last year Darnell Wright
Speaker 3: was the right guy after we saw him come out
Speaker 3: at Rookie Minniecab come out at OTAs, and the way
Speaker 3: he presented himself through the entire regular season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like stacking wins, you want to stack drafts.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at what some of these really
Speaker 1: good franchises do. They stack drafts, and then eventually you
Speaker 1: get to a point where you're just picking the best player.
Speaker 1: I know it's cliche. Regardless of position that suits your team,
Speaker 1: there's always something tailor made for it. But when you
Speaker 1: just can just get really good football players. I just
Speaker 1: read a quote from Tony Dungee, who does the NBC
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football, the fumber Head coach and Super Bowl winner,
Speaker 1: don't pass up special and he learned his lesson when
Speaker 1: he was with the Steelers and they passed on Dan
Speaker 1: Marino as a franchise and he wound up going to
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. You're a good friend Dan Marino.
Speaker 2: You know there's a lot of teams that passed on
Speaker 2: Dan Marino. Yeah as well.
Speaker 3: So it's not only a ton of Tony Dungee mistakes.
Speaker 3: There's twenty something other teams that made that mistake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but don't do you agree with in your heart
Speaker 1: of hearts because you don't know special until they actually
Speaker 1: have a career. But if you can somehow you're convinced
Speaker 1: yourself you can forecast special. Don't pass on special, regardless
Speaker 1: of position.
Speaker 3: Listen, Michael Jordan was passed up on, you know, in
Speaker 3: the draft before he was picked. You know, Walter Payton
Speaker 3: was a high draft choice, but there's teams that passed
Speaker 3: up on him. Everybody has that in their career, from
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodg to Randy Moss to whatever sport that you
Speaker 3: want to look at.
Speaker 2: There's been guys that have been passed up because.
Speaker 3: Some way, shape or form, they didn't check the box
Speaker 3: of importance that was for their team, their roster, their time,
Speaker 3: and so you go and you make a different decision
Speaker 3: and sometimes you live there regret it for decades to come.
Speaker 1: Heck, thirty two teams passed on Tom Thayer three times.
Speaker 2: We won't get into that.
Speaker 1: What really stood out of that interview with Poles is
Speaker 1: a couple of things for me, Tom A. They want
Speaker 1: to put a lot of stress on the opponent. So
Speaker 1: that's all three phases, and that's why in part Tory
Speaker 1: Taylor's here as a fourth round punter. You just want
Speaker 1: to make sure you're doing everything in your power to
Speaker 1: affect the opposition and make them work for it. And
Speaker 1: that comes also from a physicality standpoint. Make them feel
Speaker 1: like you've been through something. If they're going to beat you,
Speaker 1: they're gonna feel it. And then that's always been my thing.
Speaker 1: I want a physical, nasty football team. I know that
Speaker 1: sounds idealistic in many ways. It's a different time in
Speaker 1: place in the NFL, but I want guys that are
Speaker 1: going to leave a mark a little bit in addition
Speaker 1: to being great football players. But making a long field
Speaker 1: for an offense, given a short field to a young
Speaker 1: quarterback taking the stretches off of him, as much as
Speaker 1: anybody would you concur that that is a great goal
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Listen, anytime you develop a reputation around the league that
Speaker 3: you're one of the more physical of football teams that
Speaker 3: you're going to face, whether it's from the attacking offensive
Speaker 3: line to the attacking defense. I think that's the reputation
Speaker 3: that you want to garner around the league. When you
Speaker 3: look at the Bears defensively, they have defensive backs that
Speaker 3: are going to hit you. They have linebackers that are
Speaker 3: going to chase you down and hit you equally as well,
Speaker 3: and you have a defensive line that's in that development stage.
Speaker 3: Is that if they can get to the quarterback and
Speaker 3: kind of shake his confidence with the immediacy of time
Speaker 3: that he doesn't have, that's also the reputation you want
Speaker 3: to develop. So I think on the defensive side of
Speaker 3: the ball, if we have some guys that take that
Speaker 3: next step, they can develop that reputation. And then when
Speaker 3: you look at what this offense can offer you, if
Speaker 3: they can, you know, have that running game that is
Speaker 3: so beneficial to the overall attempt of offense, then I
Speaker 3: think that is super helpful to you because that's the
Speaker 3: first thing you have to have, and then how it
Speaker 3: leads to the receiver position. And yeah, I think the
Speaker 3: Bears are on the cusp of that. You know, Sunday night,
Speaker 3: we are talking about it, because you've always said, you know,
Speaker 3: when you and Ryan pulls your first interview, how we're
Speaker 3: going to tear this thing down, and we're going to
Speaker 3: do it from the studs. We're gonna build it. And
Speaker 3: so Sunday night, I was telling you all, I think
Speaker 3: it's time to move in.
Speaker 2: And I do think that.
Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of more shingles you have
Speaker 3: to add, or maybe some siding, but it is moving
Speaker 3: ready at this point.
Speaker 4: Right time.
Speaker 1: Put some art on the wall, you know, get that
Speaker 1: get that nice couch, get that office.
Speaker 3: You can have the best art you can have on
Speaker 3: the walls of a house or on the fireplace. Mantle
Speaker 3: our division winning trophies that lead to playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course, uh the Super Bowl Lombardi Trophy
Speaker 1: as well. Tom Thayer and I here on Bears, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: The other thing is, and he's not gonna ever jeopardize this.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Ryan Poles and his staff, it's satisfying
Speaker 1: to know that they only not only have good players,
Speaker 1: that this new group are really good people. And I
Speaker 1: can first hand tell you from the immediate. You know,
Speaker 1: often your immediate interaction with someone is the lasting one,
Speaker 1: the impression. And from meeting Caleb Williams, Dunsa and Williams,
Speaker 1: those interviews will drop here this week on the Bear
Speaker 1: social platforms. Just tell they're really good people and they
Speaker 1: really care about winning, and they care about working at
Speaker 1: their craft. And you know, Tom, we've been around along.
Speaker 1: We know that there's a be a and a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of players that come in this league.
Speaker 1: And you just have a funny feeling when you're left
Speaker 1: with the God, is this guy really committed? Is he
Speaker 1: really going to work at it? Or is he or
Speaker 1: is he thinking about decorating his house instead of the
Speaker 1: Bears house? You know what I'm saying, instead of of
Speaker 1: learning the playbook and being committed in a ridiculous fashion,
Speaker 1: in a obsessive passion to be great. And we know
Speaker 1: who those guys are. You played with many, you were
Speaker 1: one of those guys, and you still are one of
Speaker 1: those guys. In your preparation, I think a guy's like
Speaker 1: Matt Forte, who is like that. I think of Mike Brown,
Speaker 1: Brian Rlacker. The mental not only just the physical, but
Speaker 1: the mental part of getting ready for games and we
Speaker 1: can go down the list you know who they are.
Speaker 3: But you know the thing about it, Jeff, if we
Speaker 3: had no exposure at all to Caleb Williams until the
Speaker 3: night he was drafted, and that's the first time that
Speaker 3: we had any shot of him, I would be encouraged
Speaker 3: because the enthusiasm and what she took that stage in
Speaker 3: Detroit with was a guy that was really excited about
Speaker 3: what his future opportunity is gonna be. And then sneaking
Speaker 3: up behind Romadoonsa in the back of the stage before
Speaker 3: he was a ninth pick of the draft and just
Speaker 3: accepted him with the open arms of a team brotherhood
Speaker 3: that from this moment forward, they're gonna work on some
Speaker 3: great things.
Speaker 2: That really sold me on Caleb because.
Speaker 3: You hear all these interviews and all this talk about him,
Speaker 3: and they really they don't know Caleb from a hill
Speaker 3: of beans, and.
Speaker 2: Then finally you get in front of the camera exposure.
Speaker 3: I was really really excited about how enthusiastic he was
Speaker 3: about that choice.
Speaker 1: Tommy couldn't have hit a nail on the head any
Speaker 1: better that raw reactionary enthusiasm, the love you can feel
Speaker 1: it like these guys, these guys are excited. They're excited
Speaker 1: to be Bears. They're excited to begin their NFL career.
Speaker 1: They they you know, they now, they now that they've
Speaker 1: got each other already before they even step in there.
Speaker 1: And this is you know, this is another thing I
Speaker 1: want to bring up with you. I think I touched
Speaker 1: on it on night and I know I touched on
Speaker 1: it with Ryan Poles. You know, in a weird way,
Speaker 1: you always think, Okay, young quarterbacks have to have veterans
Speaker 1: around them, and every every team has veterans. Let's not
Speaker 1: get ourselves. And we've got veterans here. We've got DJ
Speaker 1: We've got Keenan All, We've got Colcomette. There are veterans,
Speaker 1: but for the most part, the veterans on this team
Speaker 1: are young veterans in that sweet spot that we talk about.
Speaker 1: Your team was the youngest team in the NFL the
Speaker 1: year they won a Super Bowl, and you guys stayed young,
Speaker 1: and you could have won more Super Bowls if it
Speaker 1: fell right and injuries weren't a factor. So many things
Speaker 1: could have impacted that young teams win. They've got the juice,
Speaker 1: they got the fire, the body's not beat up yet.
Speaker 1: Do you think in this instant that Caleb being so
Speaker 1: mature at twenty two, and he is. He is a
Speaker 1: mature twenty two, roma Doonzay is a mature twenty one.
Speaker 1: I know the difference. I can hear it and see
Speaker 1: it with what already has been established in that locker
Speaker 1: room from a character point of view, and with guys
Speaker 1: having now a lot of as under their belt but
Speaker 1: still in that sweet spot of age. Does this benefit
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams in a way that he can hit the
Speaker 1: ground running better than if it were a veteran dominated
Speaker 1: team with some wear on it and already establish their
Speaker 1: attitudes and what they prefer in a locker room.
Speaker 3: Of course, you know, young is fun, and I think
Speaker 3: whenever you get a guy as popular as Caleb Williams
Speaker 3: and the national exposure that he's going to attract to
Speaker 3: this football team, everybody's going to be able to capitalize
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 2: This isn't only the Caleb Williams show.
Speaker 3: But I also think it's important that Caleb Williams doesn't
Speaker 3: have to run the show because when you talk about
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift and Keenan Allen and Dj Moore and Cole
Speaker 3: Kamet and some of the offensive linemen and what they've
Speaker 3: invested in their career ready, and then you look at
Speaker 3: Montees and TJ. Edwards and Tremaine Edmunds and Kevin Byrd
Speaker 3: and stuff. You have veterans that are going to be
Speaker 3: the voice and the leaders of this football team.
Speaker 2: And like I said, a guy.
Speaker 3: As popular and has that, you know, that magnetic personality
Speaker 3: like Caleb Shoot, that's what breaks up the monotony.
Speaker 2: And that's what's the fun of it.
Speaker 3: You know, when we had the celebrities that would come
Speaker 3: into the locker room to see Jim mcmahonor the celebrities
Speaker 3: that would want to come and meet William Perry, we
Speaker 3: all had fun with it. So I think it's a
Speaker 3: benefit for the team and guys have to enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jalen Johnson a part of that now too
Speaker 1: by virtue of you know, he is a leader on
Speaker 1: that team. He's a leader in that locker room, he's
Speaker 1: a leader on that defense. You know, you mentioned the
Speaker 1: fun part of it. I believe practice when Brian Irlacker
Speaker 1: and Lance Briggs and Peanut Tillman were in their heyday
Speaker 1: for the Bears, those practices were fun because they enjoyed
Speaker 1: going to practice. That was playtime for them. That was
Speaker 1: playground time. The rest of it, Hey, Brian Irlacker could
Speaker 1: have done without all the other stuff that came with
Speaker 1: being an NFL player. He would sit in Dean Pope's office,
Speaker 1: who was the video director of the Bears football operations
Speaker 1: at that time, and that was their getaway. Allen Creutz
Speaker 1: would be in there. Lance would be that was just
Speaker 1: time to chit chat and get away from things and
Speaker 1: have fun, eat their lunch and watch team.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Getting on the practice field though, was fun for them.
Speaker 1: They were little kids at heart, and I believe this
Speaker 1: bunch is going to practice like that.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 3: There was nobody on the practice field that was more
Speaker 3: antagonistic than Steve McMichael. But it was always a positive.
Speaker 3: It made the offense work harder and practice harder. And
Speaker 3: then that's spilled over because they were playing against the best,
Speaker 3: one of the best defenses, the best defense in the
Speaker 3: history of the league. So that antagonistic approach to the
Speaker 3: fun of practice, like I said, it breaks that monotony,
Speaker 3: and it makes things more competitive during the week, and
Speaker 3: it makes you better football team on Sunday.
Speaker 1: All right, So we discussed the top two Romadunza. We'll
Speaker 1: be wearing a number fifteen. Number eighteen will be Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams to start his What's that?
Speaker 2: I told you? What do you mean you you thought
Speaker 2: I had inside information at the draft?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: What number? And I said, he's gonna wear? And that
Speaker 2: was from the owner of the dog school that my
Speaker 2: puppies go to.
Speaker 1: And he's the one that I mean, where do people
Speaker 1: find this information? Is what I want to know.
Speaker 3: I don't know what to the internet. And it was
Speaker 3: a jersey that was already sold out. It was a
Speaker 3: number you couldn't get, Okay, it was just the assumption.
Speaker 1: He put two and two together. That's a smart man.
Speaker 1: Two and two equals eighteen, all right? Round three out
Speaker 1: of Yale and Hinsdale Central High School. Karan Amagaji. What
Speaker 1: a great name, What a young man he is. The
Speaker 1: excitement he had, his his home blew up with excitement.
Speaker 1: Fox had their cameras in there when he was drafted.
Speaker 1: It was an incredible, lively reaction to it all, as
Speaker 1: you might expect being a Bears fan growing up. Let's
Speaker 1: learn more about Amagaji from the Bear's Coe player personnel
Speaker 1: director and fellow Hinsdale native played at the high school.
Speaker 1: Treykozio a'ma Gaji correct and nailed it.
Speaker 4: Yepgaji.
Speaker 6: What's in the name here?
Speaker 4: I mean, what are we getting from Yale?
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 7: He's a He's a guy that we took a look
Speaker 7: at in the summer and we're really really interested in. Obviously,
Speaker 7: he's got a rare physical skill set, super sharp kid
Speaker 7: coming out of the IVY League. Another homegrown talent which
Speaker 7: is always fun, uh to bring in here. But you know,
Speaker 7: he kid loves football. He's athletic, he's aggressive, he's strong,
Speaker 7: and you know, the more you watch them, the more
Speaker 7: he grew on you. And I actually had a chance
Speaker 7: to go up there this fallen seem in person, and
Speaker 7: you know, he got he got injured towards the end
Speaker 7: of the year, but I actually got a chance to
Speaker 7: sit down and spend about a half hour with him
Speaker 7: at the school, which was really, really fun. It's a
Speaker 7: unique opportunity, opportunity to kind of get to know the
Speaker 7: guys through the process.
Speaker 6: So it's a really good player. We're really excited to
Speaker 6: have him.
Speaker 1: He came through the Hinsdale Chamber of Commerce, where Trey
Speaker 1: Colzil played his football Hinsdale Central Guy correct.
Speaker 6: Correct.
Speaker 1: So what's his background to get to Yale and how
Speaker 1: successful was he in high school?
Speaker 7: So he was, you know, kind of a later bloomer
Speaker 7: to football, you know, had a little bit of a
Speaker 7: soccer and a basketball background and and got there. And yeah,
Speaker 7: once he got to Yale, ended up playing and starting
Speaker 7: some games at guard and then started you know, left
Speaker 7: tackle for him the last couple of years and it's
Speaker 7: just kind of really coming into his own and blossoming
Speaker 7: as a player. And it's been really fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I am in a eighty five and a half wingspan
Speaker 1: with thirty six and an eighth inch arms. There are
Speaker 1: not many humans on the planet carrying that kind of
Speaker 1: stature around. How does that help him as a player.
Speaker 7: I think one of the best traits that he has
Speaker 7: is that it's rare to find a guy that has
Speaker 7: that kind of arm length that uses it and knows
Speaker 7: how to use his hands and use that length to
Speaker 7: his advantage. You know, that's something that Braxton does really
Speaker 7: well at thirty five plus arms too. So to find
Speaker 7: a guy that does have that length and that can
Speaker 7: bend and can use that length is really where that
Speaker 7: comes into play, because some of those long arm guys
Speaker 7: don't always know how to use it, especially coming out
Speaker 7: of college. So I think he's really a step ahead
Speaker 7: of the game there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great background too of influence internationally, which is very
Speaker 1: strong push in the league right now from African Nations,
Speaker 1: Togo here, moms from France, so obviously that soccer background.
Speaker 1: And I keep reading also about basketball feet You mentioned soccer.
Speaker 4: That's got to help too.
Speaker 1: How significant is that for the person who wants to
Speaker 1: understand offensive line play about feet?
Speaker 6: I think it.
Speaker 7: Speaks to two like how important it is for young
Speaker 7: athletes to play multiple sports, right because especially playing basketball,
Speaker 7: getting that coordination, the athleticism, it teaches big guys to
Speaker 7: have to bend and have to move their feet, you know,
Speaker 7: and have to be able to play out in space.
Speaker 6: So it just makes you a more well rounded athlete,
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 7: And it's always a benefit, you know, to these players
Speaker 7: to really get a varied and you know, athletic background
Speaker 7: coming in, which is really cool.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that thirty minute conversation. Anything memorable about that
Speaker 1: process of trying to figure out if this guy's will.
Speaker 7: Bear you know, I had a feeling of what he
Speaker 7: was as a player by watching the tape, but getting
Speaker 7: to know the man and getting to know the human being.
Speaker 7: I was probably more impressed with that. You know, he's
Speaker 7: a he's a really really good football player, but he's
Speaker 7: even more impressive as a person, you know, and that's
Speaker 7: obviously coming from me. You know, he's going to be
Speaker 7: a sharp kid. But the maturity, the self awareness, the composure,
Speaker 7: just sitting down and talking to him, I came away
Speaker 7: really really impressed, you know, and it was cool.
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys seek out former players at
Speaker 1: their positions to train. I hear he sought out the
Speaker 1: former Cincinnati Bengal Willy Anderson. We called him Big Willie.
Speaker 1: Heck of an offensive tackle. That shows initiative obviously, And.
Speaker 4: What does he learn for something like that from your
Speaker 4: experience with talking to him?
Speaker 7: Well, I think too, it's whenever you have a chance
Speaker 7: to work with a guy who's had a storied career
Speaker 7: like Willy, does you know you get to learn the
Speaker 7: finer the finer details and technique work. Obviously, you get
Speaker 7: a guy who's going to be an NFL player going
Speaker 7: in the IVY leagues, there's probably some things that he
Speaker 7: could get away with based on his rare physical traits,
Speaker 7: but it really does show initiative and his passion for football,
Speaker 7: and that's what that's what I came. What he really
Speaker 7: impressed with too, is that he's willing to go down there,
Speaker 7: put in his time in the summer with an NFL VET,
Speaker 7: you know, when when he doesn't have to, you know,
Speaker 7: preparing to make himself what he is, you know, and
Speaker 7: to reach his full potential. And so it's it's really cool.
Speaker 7: It almost gave him a leg up and you could
Speaker 7: really see the difference in his tape from the junior
Speaker 7: to the senior year just finding a way to unlock
Speaker 7: those physical tools by being more technically sound, which which
Speaker 7: makes him dangerous.
Speaker 1: Obviously stinks to the Taurus quad. In October, what's the
Speaker 1: point of his rehab right now to your knowledge? And
Speaker 1: now will he be able to hit the ground running here?
Speaker 4: I know he didn't do any workouts, king.
Speaker 7: Well, he actually did do a private workout a little
Speaker 7: bit later on in the process in April, and we
Speaker 7: had some scouts out there in attendance. You know, our
Speaker 7: assistant offensive line coach hass was up there as well,
Speaker 7: and so he was at the point where he was
Speaker 7: able to move around a little bit. But in terms
Speaker 7: of timeline and all that, I'll leave that up to
Speaker 7: Dre and the medical staff and see where. See where
Speaker 7: he's at when he comes in.
Speaker 4: What a Yale run? What kind of offense? Shoot?
Speaker 7: They had a good team. They had a good team.
Speaker 7: It was fun they you know, kind of multiple. You know,
Speaker 7: you got to see him do some pro style type stuff.
Speaker 7: You got see him come off the ball in the
Speaker 7: run game. But yeah, they had a couple of good players.
Speaker 7: It was fun to watch them.
Speaker 4: What's this do now?
Speaker 1: For just the depth and the competition at the tackle position,
Speaker 1: and you guys brought in a bunch of veterans obviously
Speaker 1: to fill those roles as well. It would be a
Speaker 1: nice addition another young guy to develop.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, and those guys don't don't fall off trees, right,
Speaker 7: And it's finding the bigger bodies and getting depth with
Speaker 7: bigger bodies. There's always been a point of emphasis for us,
Speaker 7: and I think it's really important because you can never
Speaker 7: have too many good offensive linemen. You know, we'd we'd
Speaker 7: be more than willing to deal with that problem than
Speaker 7: lack thereof. So it'll it'll just be a competition, right,
Speaker 7: and the more good players you have, the better off
Speaker 7: the Bears are. And that's that's always been our goal
Speaker 7: here from day one.
Speaker 1: One last question regarding that is considered a very very
Speaker 1: good tackle draft. Obviously certainly at the top end of
Speaker 1: the draft. Was there a lot of discussion on tackles
Speaker 1: overall in the building, And you know, do do people
Speaker 1: start standing on.
Speaker 4: Tables for a guy like this with the raw skill set?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Absolutely, I think you know, we we studied tackles. You know,
Speaker 7: we did a real deep dive into a really strong
Speaker 7: class this year. You know, I think everybody's on the table.
Speaker 7: You know, when you come into the draft and then
Speaker 7: you start, you know, stacking your board and seeing who's
Speaker 7: available and how they you know, working we call working
Speaker 7: horizontally across the board, right, so you know, looking at
Speaker 7: the wide receiver position versus the tackle position, versus the
Speaker 7: defensive end position versus you know, defensive tackles, and and
Speaker 7: just kind of seeing where the depth is and how
Speaker 7: we would stack those guys horizontally. So once you stack
Speaker 7: them vertically up the board, then you start saying, okay,
Speaker 7: would you take the tackle or the wide receiver? Would
Speaker 7: you take the defensive end of the tackle. So it's
Speaker 7: you know, we're blessed to have two really good young
Speaker 7: tackles here, and so it's it'll be fun just to
Speaker 7: get another one in the mix and just see how
Speaker 7: it all shakes out come training camp.
Speaker 4: He grew up a Bear fan, Yes, yes he did,
Speaker 4: Yes he did.
Speaker 6: You know, we had him.
Speaker 7: It's cool for the local guys. We're able to bring
Speaker 7: him in for a local it doesn't count against our
Speaker 7: thirty visit limit. And I know he was in the
Speaker 7: building and it really speaks to him too, because those
Speaker 7: guys have to pay their own way to drive up here,
Speaker 7: you know, otherwise it counts.
Speaker 6: As a thirty visit for us. So he took the initiative.
Speaker 7: We called him up, you know, and he drove up
Speaker 7: you know, from Hinsdale and came and spent the day
Speaker 7: with us and our coaches, and we treated it like
Speaker 7: a thirty visit. We just can't, you know, we can't
Speaker 7: pay for it. So you always appreciate those local guys
Speaker 7: that take the initiative and get excited when they come
Speaker 7: and walk into household because they grew up watching him
Speaker 7: in panted the team.
Speaker 4: I lied one more what does it mean to you
Speaker 4: that you got a Hinsdale guy.
Speaker 7: Shoot, he's uh. I think he might have edged out
Speaker 7: Brian Allen for the highest drafted. I think Brian went
Speaker 7: in the fourth. But it's you know, it's it's fun,
Speaker 7: it's fun to see. It's you know, you do have
Speaker 7: a lot of pride in the fact that you know,
Speaker 7: you get somebody from your hometown that went to your
Speaker 7: high school and all that stuff, and it's you know,
Speaker 7: shout out to Brian Griffin, that the head coach at
Speaker 7: Hinsdale Central who is a teammate of mine back there
Speaker 7: in the class of O three. So obviously they're doing
Speaker 7: something right. And shoot, I hope they can get us
Speaker 7: some more.
Speaker 1: It's a cool story. Yeah, Hey, Tom, So what's stuck
Speaker 1: out about that interview about the breakdown from Trey on Amagaji.
Speaker 3: Listen, it would be the same thing if we were
Speaker 3: talking about a kid from Jolia Catholic the way that
Speaker 3: Trey talked about Amagaji. Because here's a guy that you
Speaker 3: kind of get an introduction to him through a head
Speaker 3: coach that used to be one of his teammates at
Speaker 3: Hinsdale Central, Brian Griffin, and all of a sudden you
Speaker 3: start studying what this player can offer you to help
Speaker 3: your football team become a better football team.
Speaker 2: You look at his size, you look at his length.
Speaker 3: You look at the measurables that you talked about with
Speaker 3: him in the interview, his intelligence, the ability to play
Speaker 3: multiple positions, and again the excitement of being to stay
Speaker 3: around his home and get the support of his family,
Speaker 3: which was equally as important to me when I was
Speaker 3: the youngest in my family and got to stay in Chicago.
Speaker 3: So I'm really excited because I think Chris Morgan does
Speaker 3: a great job of investigating the traits of every player
Speaker 3: that comes across his desk and see how many multiple
Speaker 3: positions can he play. And when you start at right guard,
Speaker 3: you start at left tackle, I think his upside is
Speaker 3: still unmeasurable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's the other thing too. You're giving
Speaker 1: him a piece of clay. You're giving Chris Morgan because
Speaker 1: the raw materials are there, the length, the feet, he
Speaker 1: played basketball, he played soccer that helped him, His attitude
Speaker 1: is intelligence, all these things. Factor did play guard, but
Speaker 1: he finished his career at left tackle for Yale in
Speaker 1: a multiple scheme. And the other thing about him too,
Speaker 1: the initiative in this young man, you know, to to
Speaker 1: actually pursue the education at Yale. And you know, you
Speaker 1: could he could have played football anywhere else. I mean,
Speaker 1: he has the raw. Anybody's gonna see the body walking
Speaker 1: off the bus. He I can make that guy into
Speaker 1: this kind of player, But he chose Yale. He you
Speaker 1: know that, that to me says something too about about
Speaker 1: the kid and how important that part of it is.
Speaker 1: And uh, I just think that this is a great
Speaker 1: shot to get somebody at the ground floor of their
Speaker 1: career and craft him into something, whether it be left
Speaker 1: tackle or whether it be a guard. He's gonna get
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting reps during training camp, and they're
Speaker 1: not ruling out the competition already for it, so it's
Speaker 1: not like he's not going to have a chance of playing,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Actually, you know, it's kind of weird because we have
Speaker 3: a lot of similarities between the two of us. It's
Speaker 3: the difficult part for me to go to Notre Dame
Speaker 3: was the academic competition. I also played offensive guard and center,
Speaker 3: and I played my whole junior year at left tackle,
Speaker 3: but I was an offensive guard, and sometimes what the
Speaker 3: coaches require you to do that's out of your control,
Speaker 3: that you have to go and do it with a
Speaker 3: positive attitude. That's what I like to see what he's
Speaker 3: been able to do. And then the competitive academic part
Speaker 3: of it in being able to accomplish that goal, it's
Speaker 3: as impressive as anything. So I'm really excited to watch
Speaker 3: him develop as a player. And you talk about the
Speaker 3: soccer background and the different sports, and Trey made a
Speaker 3: point of saying, I like seeing guys play multiple sports.
Speaker 3: It makes me think of a Keema LaJuan. He was
Speaker 3: a great center in the NBA, one of the best.
Speaker 6: Of all time.
Speaker 3: But he also grew up as a young man playing soccer,
Speaker 3: and I think that does a lot because bigger athletes
Speaker 3: sometimes are steered away from those types of sports, and
Speaker 3: he was not steered away. He competed at them, but
Speaker 3: he grew into a massive man.
Speaker 1: So there's also this it's an automatic you always think, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, what's the level of competition in the IVY league,
Speaker 1: and so do you ding a guy on that or
Speaker 1: do you embrace that because you know you can get
Speaker 1: away with technique and when you're a better athlete than
Speaker 1: the guy across from you, but you can't do that
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You got the techniques, got to be sharp.
Speaker 3: I don't care about that technique because every one of
Speaker 3: those kids that he's playing against, they have the same level,
Speaker 3: desire level, yeah, to be good at whatever position they play.
Speaker 3: To me, when I'm evaluating player, I'm looking at their traits.
Speaker 3: Does his feet compliment his arm length and his upper
Speaker 3: body strength. Does he have the ability to make adjustments
Speaker 3: and redirected moves? Does he have you know, the different
Speaker 3: types of things that you need from a stance as
Speaker 3: a right guard or a stance as a left tackle.
Speaker 3: So again, I'm not looking at the guys he's playing against,
Speaker 3: because I'm not scouting them. I'm looking at the guy
Speaker 3: that i'm scouting to investigate his trades.
Speaker 1: I know how you feel about arm length and hand size.
Speaker 1: I'm not here to raw you up, Tom. I know
Speaker 1: you feel that there are varying levels of facts about
Speaker 1: that and varying levels of fiction about that. However, when
Speaker 1: Trey says, hey, it's rare to find that kind of
Speaker 1: arm length and use it to his advantage, Braxton Jones
Speaker 1: does it as well. So just because you have long
Speaker 1: arms or big, strong hands doesn't mean you know how
Speaker 1: to use them. So is there is there a delineation
Speaker 1: for you in that that Hey, okay, if he's using
Speaker 1: that length in a proper manner and the technique that
Speaker 1: you're being taught, is there a benefit to that in
Speaker 1: a way that you can explain being an offensive lineman yourself.
Speaker 1: So he's got eighty four inch wingspan, I'm sure that
Speaker 1: helps inside as well as outside. But also can he
Speaker 1: use that length to steer away trouble from a quarterback?
Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
Speaker 3: But you have to have a supreme a snapcount anticipation
Speaker 3: where you're getting the length of your hands into the
Speaker 3: body the defensive lineman. Now you're in control of him. However,
Speaker 3: you better have the feet that matches the arm length.
Speaker 3: To me, Jeff, I'm not so concerned about arm length.
Speaker 3: I'm concerned about the maneuverability out of your stance and
Speaker 3: then the ability to get your feet up and down
Speaker 3: off the ground in a real pitter patter manner. Because
Speaker 3: if you have great length in your whole career, you've
Speaker 3: been super strong and you've been able to count on length,
Speaker 3: but you never moved your feet in the NFL, You're
Speaker 3: gonna get killed and so That's what I like about
Speaker 3: Amagaji is the fact that if he's playing inside or outside,
Speaker 3: his feet meet his length. And that's more important than oh,
Speaker 3: this guy's got fourteen inch hands.
Speaker 2: Don't care, because if you don't move those size.
Speaker 3: Fourteen feet in an efficient manner, you're not gonna be
Speaker 3: able to play.
Speaker 1: Game day snacking colls for good foods, Chuckie guacamaldi made
Speaker 1: with hasavocados, tomatoes, onions, cilantro on a squeeze of lime juice.
Speaker 1: It's to watch while the Bears win. Score some today
Speaker 1: at your local grocery store. Game Day is guak day.
Speaker 1: Every time I read that, I get a little hungry
Speaker 1: for a little dip, little guak, don't you.
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of avocados. Yeah, and so if
Speaker 3: it's not it's not in the full guacamole mode. I'm
Speaker 3: there eating avocados by the barrel full.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go good for you, Let's go for say.
Speaker 1: I put it in my eggs almost every day. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the fourth round. Tory Taylor, the punter out
Speaker 1: of Iowa. He's going to be twenty twenty six. Now,
Speaker 1: at some point the season will be twenty seven years
Speaker 1: of age. That doesn't bother me for a punter because
Speaker 1: they stay around a long time. Fifteen year careers sometimes longer.
Speaker 1: Same with kickers, a big leg to flip the field,
Speaker 1: especially in Soldier Field where weather is a factor. He's
Speaker 1: played in weather they practice outside their entire time. Ryan
Speaker 1: Poles in the interview said some of the best punt
Speaker 1: and pin touch he's seen from a punter, which if
Speaker 1: you want to get somebody backed up and said they're
Speaker 1: five and have a long field, he's your guy. An
Speaker 1: unbelievable career at Iowa. What are your thoughts on the punter.
Speaker 3: I had one of the worst offenses in NCAA college history,
Speaker 3: so much they got rid of their offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: So he spent a lot of time on the field.
Speaker 3: Probably the only punter that can let her in one
Speaker 3: year because he's got so much time on the field.
Speaker 2: And so I like that. And then if you go
Speaker 2: back and listen.
Speaker 3: To what our great Doug Kledi says every year, the
Speaker 3: punt is the most important play on the on the
Speaker 3: football field, and so all those traits I like out
Speaker 3: of him, and it's kind of fortunately. I watch a
Speaker 3: lot of Iowa football because of our good friend Jay
Speaker 3: Hilgenberg and the Iowa guys I played with, and you
Speaker 3: kind of pay attention to the inefficiency of the offense.
Speaker 3: So it makes you see the punter a lot, and
Speaker 3: I like what I see out of him. You know,
Speaker 3: the thing about a punter is when you're mature like
Speaker 3: that and you're a stronger guy, you spend more time
Speaker 3: in the weight room. You're getting your skill level at
Speaker 3: a peak performance that you can I can see he's
Speaker 3: ready to go out there and compete from the very
Speaker 3: first punt that he gets, and so increase the competitiveness
Speaker 3: of the punt return game, the punt returners on the Bears,
Speaker 3: and then the punt team itself.
Speaker 1: You know, I got the impression that he was getting
Speaker 1: nicked a little bit by some of the analysts because
Speaker 1: he outkicked his coverage. He had a lot of touchbacks.
Speaker 1: And the belief is is that, you know, his head
Speaker 1: coach said, hey, listen, man, just just get it out there.
Speaker 1: We want we want them to work on a long field,
Speaker 1: so they know their defense was very good and they
Speaker 1: could take the ball away and force a team to
Speaker 1: be backed up. So you got to factor that into
Speaker 1: what he was asked to do. But the way it
Speaker 1: was described to me is that this guy's got a
Speaker 1: golf bag, meaning what do you need? Do you need
Speaker 1: a nine iron? Do you need to do you need
Speaker 1: the driver?
Speaker 2: What do you need?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll wedge it up there. I'll do whatever
Speaker 1: you need. And so if you've got that kind of placement,
Speaker 1: and you know, he and apparently very much impressed Richard
Speaker 1: high Tower, the Bear special teams coordinator, from his interaction
Speaker 1: with him and just his his his on field work
Speaker 1: during the combine. So a lot to like about this
Speaker 1: OSSI rules former football player, and they always come in
Speaker 1: with a very unique way of kicking the football. But
Speaker 1: he also can kick the tail down spiral as well.
Speaker 1: It's not just the Rugby style kick.
Speaker 3: But you know, Jeff, the thing about is he's gonna
Speaker 3: be punting inside Soldier Field. That's a natural grass surface.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be playing in Green Bay, that's a natural
Speaker 3: grass surface. Then you're gonna be playing in Minnesota and
Speaker 3: in Detroit and there are artificial surfaces. So I think
Speaker 3: when you talk about a punter that has an arsenal,
Speaker 3: it's a lot of It's a lot like talking about
Speaker 3: a golfer in what type of end result are they
Speaker 3: gonna have to their shot and is it gonna be
Speaker 3: an extreme where it's always gonna have forward, advanced spin
Speaker 3: where it could go out of bounds or into the
Speaker 3: end zone every time, or do you have the ability
Speaker 3: to have those backup style of punts even on the
Speaker 3: hardest of surfers surfaces that he's gonna punt in also,
Speaker 3: so I think to be a quality punter, you got
Speaker 3: to be able to have control of the end result
Speaker 3: of your punts on the artificial surface as well as
Speaker 3: the natural surface.
Speaker 1: Here's something that we haven't discussed is the holding. Is
Speaker 1: we equally important his hands to put the ball down?
Speaker 1: We I have not explored that, haven't read anything about that. Obviously.
Speaker 1: It's it's something that you you got to have great
Speaker 1: continuity and chemistry with kicker Cairo Santos, and Santos will
Speaker 1: help him in that regard to how he wants the
Speaker 1: ball down well they you know, I.
Speaker 3: Think when you have the consistency of the snap, it
Speaker 3: really helps you develop that trade. If you're gonna need
Speaker 3: to sit there behind with the center and make sure
Speaker 3: that you catch a thousand kicks, you know, extra point
Speaker 3: field goal snaps before you ever place one in a game.
Speaker 3: And you're going to have that opportunity because nowadays, these
Speaker 3: punter snappers and kickers, they don't participate in practice like
Speaker 3: back in the eighties. Now they're kind of off on
Speaker 3: a field by themselves, working with coach High Tower. And
Speaker 3: you have that, you know, five thousand reps or however
Speaker 3: many reps you need in order to get ready for
Speaker 3: a pretty serious dude, yes on the field.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got a great long snapper though guys's
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Speaker 1: continue on, let's talk Austin Booker now the Kansas pass rusher,
Speaker 1: the edge rusher, John City, the area scout with the
Speaker 1: with the breakdown.
Speaker 4: All right, tell me about Austin.
Speaker 8: Oh Man in stud of a person, even better football player.
Speaker 8: Excited to get him. I think the thing that stands
Speaker 8: out the most with him is the upside. He fits
Speaker 8: a lot of metrics that you really look for in
Speaker 8: pass rushers. You're getting a guy who athletically fits the bill,
Speaker 8: measureableves in terms of the length, of speed, all the
Speaker 8: things you look for in pass rushers.
Speaker 6: Just kild checks all those boxes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty four, about thirty four inch arms right, thirty
Speaker 1: three and seven eight so at two fifty three and
Speaker 1: six four and a half twenty one, three years sophomore,
Speaker 1: and that really is the focus here.
Speaker 4: It didn't play much of Minnesota had a great year
Speaker 4: last year.
Speaker 1: Heck, if he would have stayed in school another year,
Speaker 1: his draft staff quite want probably way up. So are
Speaker 1: you kind of getting a player you could have got
Speaker 1: next year but you got him this year and helped
Speaker 1: develop now?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so, But I also think again there's
Speaker 8: a reason we went back up and got this guy. Obviously,
Speaker 8: he's a guy that we think could help us immediately,
Speaker 8: whether that's special teams, whether it's on defense. I mean,
Speaker 8: all that stuff still to be determined moving forward. But
Speaker 8: we thought at that point in the draft that kid
Speaker 8: was ready to be Chicago bear, and Ryan did a
Speaker 8: really good job getting back in there to make that happen.
Speaker 4: Did he have a toolbox in terms of pass right?
Speaker 8: Yeah, and yeah, I think that's probably the most attractive
Speaker 8: thing when you really turn on this kid's tape and
Speaker 8: dive into it. This kid can win multiple different ways.
Speaker 8: He's a leaner, leaner, thin built guy who we liked
Speaker 8: that frame to develop, so he can win with speed
Speaker 8: naturally because of that. But at the same same time,
Speaker 8: this kid has unique length and ability to win with power.
Speaker 8: He's coordinated a counter inside and when you look at
Speaker 8: the rushers, I have really really good success at our levels.
Speaker 8: The guys can win multiple ways, and that's what you're
Speaker 8: really attractive about Austin.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: I like the long stab. You know what does that
Speaker 1: do when a guy is able to extend like that,
Speaker 1: the long stab, just clearing the hands.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well yeah, the ability to get into the chest
Speaker 8: and driving backwards. What's unique about Austin is again his
Speaker 8: ability to threaten outside with speed, threatening underneath with the
Speaker 8: counter and then he's able to get those guys back
Speaker 8: on their heels and use that long arm to stab
Speaker 8: them and go right back in the lap of the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I hate the comp thing, but you know when you
Speaker 1: hear this one comp that respected analyst throws out there,
Speaker 1: Max Crosby.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, and and Max was the same way. If
Speaker 8: you remember Max coming out. Max was a junior or
Speaker 8: an underclassman that came out a little bit early, long, lean, underdeveloped,
Speaker 8: but athletic and had a lot of the exact same
Speaker 8: characteristics that Austin has. And when you throw around the name,
Speaker 8: you're excited about what potentially Austin would become.
Speaker 1: As a big twelve player. And Lance Leipold, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: done a heck of a job development. That's the third
Speaker 1: straight year they put a pass rusher in the NFL.
Speaker 1: What's he doing there and what did he do for
Speaker 1: Austin book?
Speaker 8: Lance changed Austin's life. I mean, I think that's the
Speaker 8: first thing he transferred in from Minnesota. He spent two
Speaker 8: years there and then came to Kansas and Lance gave
Speaker 8: him a opportunity to get on the field and let
Speaker 8: him showcase his ability. Our staff has had a relationship
Speaker 8: with Lance for a really long time, and he's a
Speaker 8: guy that when you go into that program you get
Speaker 8: a chance to meet him. He's always up front and
Speaker 8: honest with you and you kind of you kind of
Speaker 8: know exactly what you're getting when you're drafting one of
Speaker 8: his guys. So for us, it gave us a lot
Speaker 8: of confidence to dive back into the draft to get
Speaker 8: this kid.
Speaker 1: I brought this up to him. Obviously, I mentioned Max Crosby.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the finished version of Max Crosby, but
Speaker 1: it has been described in multiple outlets of draft review
Speaker 1: by people that I respect that he's Matt Crosby lte
Speaker 1: at the moment. If he's got any reference to Max
Speaker 1: Crosby style the pass rush, I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 1: That's all I gotta say. As a fifth round pick,
Speaker 1: could have stayed in one more year and probably would
Speaker 1: have been a much higher draft pick. But you know,
Speaker 1: he had a slow start at Minnesota, didn't get to
Speaker 1: play Lance Light pulled the head coach over there at Kansas,
Speaker 1: took things into his own's hands, and really, as he said,
Speaker 1: as John said, and I have a loud respect for
Speaker 1: John as a scout as well, changed his life in
Speaker 1: an instant.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, to me, Max Crosby, it's always about
Speaker 3: his work, ethic and what a fiery approach he has
Speaker 3: to play in every single snap, whether he's the point
Speaker 3: of attack or he's the backside, whether it's a pass
Speaker 3: rush or a run stopping responsibility. If there is any
Speaker 3: comparison to a work ethic of Max Crosby, and then
Speaker 3: you have that template of Austin Booker to work with
Speaker 3: his size, his shape, his arsenal pass rushes. Then the
Speaker 3: you know, Ryan Poles did just an incredible job. And
Speaker 3: you know it's not like Austin Booker has not been
Speaker 3: on the radar.
Speaker 2: He's been. People are aware of what he can offer teams.
Speaker 3: So in the comparisons to Max Crosby, if it's work ethic, shoot,
Speaker 3: I'm all in for him.
Speaker 1: Well, number one, you've brought him up many times during
Speaker 1: this draft process. Something stuck out to you.
Speaker 3: What was it? It was his his improvement of along
Speaker 3: the way, not the most easy of journeys, not a
Speaker 3: lot of playing time initially in college, but had huge
Speaker 3: production when he finally got into the right system, around
Speaker 3: the right assistant coach. He developed more than one pass
Speaker 3: rush move. He's able to use his length as an asset,
Speaker 3: not as a detriment, because you know, there are guys
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball, Jeff, that have
Speaker 3: length and they don't play with an extended arm. He
Speaker 3: does the one thing. Yeah, and that's the thing about him.
Speaker 3: He creates that separation. Now he's in control of the
Speaker 3: balance of the offensive lineman or the blocker tight end
Speaker 3: or whomever. And when you're able to use your length
Speaker 3: as an asset. That's one thing that really makes an
Speaker 3: offensive lineman nervous because if they don't get your hands
Speaker 3: on you, then that defensive lineman a lot like Montese Sweat,
Speaker 3: is in control of your blocking attempt.
Speaker 4: In many respects.
Speaker 1: Like Amagaji on the offensive side, this is a piece
Speaker 1: of clay that you're going to mold and shape into
Speaker 1: a great player. He needs to add some he adds
Speaker 1: some size to him. Right, he's on skinnier side as
Speaker 1: an edge rusher, so I don't know how much his
Speaker 1: frame can carry. You don't want to take away that
Speaker 1: initial burst off the line of scrimmage or the ability
Speaker 1: to bend and get to the quarterback. But John Cidy
Speaker 1: also said, wait a minute now, he is going to
Speaker 1: contribute immediately. He's a special teams guy and all that too.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you why, Jeff, you know one thing
Speaker 3: about Amagaji. In an offensive lineman, whatever position you stick with,
Speaker 3: you got to learn multiple things.
Speaker 2: You got to learn the terminology, you have to learn
Speaker 2: the exact of it. You have to learn the audible system.
Speaker 3: You have to learn who you're working with, depending upon
Speaker 3: the position that you play. There's a lot more things
Speaker 3: for an offensive lineman that they have to learn before
Speaker 3: you can go in there and play and contribute and
Speaker 3: not be a detriment to the five upfront. But you
Speaker 3: can be an asset when you're a defensive lineman. You
Speaker 3: need to learn a couple of things and you need
Speaker 3: to know them perfectly. You got to use your explosion,
Speaker 3: your pass, rush ability, your length, all the assets that
Speaker 3: you're giving because you're not learning a full terminology of responsibilities.
Speaker 2: Okay, get in the game.
Speaker 3: It's third and eight, you got I want you to
Speaker 3: rush the passer like Max Crosby. That's all you're thinking about.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 3: And so I just think that the ability to take
Speaker 3: a young guy that has Booker's ability in his upside,
Speaker 3: he can be on the field sooner than sometimes an
Speaker 3: offensive lineman can because there's a lot more details of
Speaker 3: their job required.
Speaker 1: And look at Mark Anderson in the six season, gets
Speaker 1: in there and it's ten sacks as a fifth round pick. Huh,
Speaker 1: interesting fifth round pick, Austin Booker, fifth round pick.
Speaker 3: You have that type of special skill set and then
Speaker 3: you're going to be on the field immediately, all right.
Speaker 1: I want to bring up a little more about Lance Lighthold.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's just not a throwaway name. I've
Speaker 1: always been impressed with that man's career because of the
Speaker 1: old days when all these training camps were in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: He was the head coach at Wisconsin Whitewater, if you
Speaker 1: remember Tom, he won six national championships in Division three.
Speaker 1: And he's done a great job of that Kansas program,
Speaker 1: which really did struggle for the most part of the
Speaker 1: Big twelve. He's put people in the NFL and three
Speaker 1: straight years a pass rusher. But an interesting background on
Speaker 1: Lance Lighthold. He was sitting in a squad car at
Speaker 1: three am on a Monday in nineteen eighty seven when
Speaker 1: he recently graduated from Whitewater and was a part time
Speaker 1: cop in his hometown of Jefferson, Wisconsin. And he once
Speaker 1: dreamed of a career in the Secret Service or FBI,
Speaker 1: but he didn't want to go to law school or
Speaker 1: doing of that. And Kryst de Leash from I'm Gonna
Speaker 1: be a Football Coach. I love that story and I
Speaker 1: respect the man's success at Division three and for the
Speaker 1: time it took for somebody in Division one to bring
Speaker 1: that guy in as a head coach. I love those
Speaker 1: kind of stories me too.
Speaker 3: You know, we hear those stories every now and again
Speaker 3: that a family tries to steer a person in a
Speaker 3: completely different direction because they know that you're kind of
Speaker 3: you know, you're moving all over the place when you
Speaker 3: commit to that coaching life. But that's an incredible success
Speaker 3: story because you take a job with the commitment and
Speaker 3: the determination of a police officer, and then you parlay
Speaker 3: that into that same type of commitment into being a coach,
Speaker 3: and now you become a head coach of a successful
Speaker 3: program that's putting kids in the NFL. Congrad Congratulations to
Speaker 3: Lance for really convincing himself.
Speaker 2: Of one of the more important decisions in his life.
Speaker 1: When it's time to tackle some game day deals, then
Speaker 1: go with the grocer who's been a part of Chicago
Speaker 1: since eighteen ninety nine and Jewlasco, the official grocery store
Speaker 1: of the Chicago Bears. Okay, you got to look at
Speaker 1: some undrafted's. Keith Randolph obviously from you and by playing
Speaker 1: next to Johnny Newton, a high draft pick as well.
Speaker 1: In this twenty twenty four player selection process. Going undrafted,
Speaker 1: it's got a lot that's gotta fire him up in
Speaker 1: a way that only he can explain, because he was
Speaker 1: a very impactful player in the Big ten playing next
Speaker 1: to a guy like that, so I'm excited to see
Speaker 1: what he brings. Yes, well, I think of John. Well,
Speaker 1: the funny thing is Tom. Yeah, but let me let
Speaker 1: me explain this because Tom, what round was?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Was h Randall drafted in And I'm thinking, gosh, John
Speaker 1: Randall was, Oh yeah, yeah, No, you were testing me,
Speaker 1: you were you were setting me up. I'm like, first second,
Speaker 1: and I just he's he's a Hall of Famer and
Speaker 1: what a bad man to deal with. And you know,
Speaker 1: you guys faced him. Uh yeah, So undrafted, undrafted land Uh,
Speaker 1: undrafted Randall? Wow, what a player he was? What a
Speaker 1: player Randall?
Speaker 3: You look at Robert mathis guy that's undersize and then
Speaker 3: they come in they have a career of multiple years
Speaker 3: of double digit sacks.
Speaker 1: Richard Dent would have been an undrafted player in today's world.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, just just amazing. So listen, that's we talked
Speaker 3: about it at the beginning. I have a lot of
Speaker 3: respect for the free agents that come aboard because it
Speaker 3: could be the the biggest moment in their sports life
Speaker 3: up unto this point.
Speaker 1: All right, and then twenty four year old quarterback Austin
Speaker 1: Reid coming in from Western Kentucky. There's a relationship already
Speaker 1: with Cata Williams. So Lessen, I'm i'm I'm grateful to
Speaker 1: have as many quarterbacks as you could throw in there
Speaker 1: to see what they've got, because it's the most important
Speaker 1: position in sports. So go forth, Austin Reed.
Speaker 3: And you know, listen, you know you got free agent quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: you got the first quarterback picked in the draft. But
Speaker 3: I do still think that Tyson Beagin is an asset
Speaker 3: to the quarterback room along with Rippin. So I think
Speaker 3: it's going to be a fun, competitive quarterback room. And
Speaker 3: with one extra game this year, some of those young
Speaker 3: guys are going to get some important reps in the
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: And he's had quite the career. Started it at FCS
Speaker 1: level with Southern Illinois. They transferred to West Florida they
Speaker 1: want to Division two national championship in twenty nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: three for four thousand yards and forty touchdowns, ran for
Speaker 1: six Then he was the starting quarterback at Western Kentucky
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Twenty six games after the transfer,
Speaker 1: he threw for over eight thousand yards and seventy one
Speaker 1: touchdowns and twenty two interceptions and ran it in for
Speaker 1: twelve as well. He was the fourth in program history
Speaker 1: and pass attempts third and pass completions, So you know,
Speaker 1: won a lot of games and those different stops, and
Speaker 1: hey see what he's got. Competition.
Speaker 2: It's all about it, exactly, and so that never give
Speaker 2: up attitude. If you have to go to different schools
Speaker 2: and you're learning different systems and you're playing around different
Speaker 2: supporting casts. That's what I said.
Speaker 3: I'm all for these kids, man, and these guys that
Speaker 3: are nowadays committed to going to different schools to continue
Speaker 3: their playing opportunity.
Speaker 1: I'm all for them, all right. So Rook Committee Camp
Speaker 1: next weekend. It'll be our first look live at Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams and Romadoons and the guys. You'll be in Maui unfortunately,
Speaker 1: but you'll you'll be taking a look at it in
Speaker 1: some form or fashion. But I'm excited about it, you know,
Speaker 1: I always am. It's it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: Baseball seasons well under.
Speaker 4: Way for me.
Speaker 1: Football season never ends, Tommy, So we're exciting schedule coming
Speaker 1: out next week as well.
Speaker 2: Looks like yeah, you know, I'm listen.
Speaker 3: Like I said at the beginning of the show, we
Speaker 3: talked five months of whom the draft choices could possibly be.
Speaker 3: Now we know who they are, so now it's putting
Speaker 3: them in motion and seeing how they compete in what
Speaker 3: they grow into and turn out to be.
Speaker 1: And in the meantime, there are still a bunch of
Speaker 1: veteran street free agents out there the Bears will likely
Speaker 1: be looking at to fill some holes on the rost
Speaker 1: that they look at, and you know, edge rusher would
Speaker 1: be something thing that I would definitely anticipate happening. A
Speaker 1: veteran of some sort to come in to increase the
Speaker 1: competition with that position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, be careful.
Speaker 3: I don't want them spending money on something that's not
Speaker 3: going to provide you what you need on this football team.
Speaker 3: And maybe Ryan Poles did the smartest thing in a
Speaker 3: trade this year with Austin Booker, and you have that
Speaker 3: guy that can hold down those important pass rushing reps
Speaker 3: for you.
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Speaker 1: us up. Tom, nice job. Enjoy it out there. I
Speaker 1: know it's also with a heavy heart because just about
Speaker 1: a year ago had that awful wildfire that destroyed lives,
Speaker 1: destroyed possessions, destroyed homes not too far away from you,
Speaker 1: and I'm wondering what the atmosphere is like there and
Speaker 1: how heartfelt everyone in this country should feel about what's
Speaker 1: going to happen and the progress that may or may
Speaker 1: not be being made at the moment.
Speaker 2: I know you've.
Speaker 1: Contributed a lot into this process, as well as a
Speaker 1: guy who's been going to Maui since his planning days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yesterday was my first eyewitness account of
Speaker 3: the area, and it's a neighborhood I know, as well
Speaker 3: as the neighborhood I grew up in. And to see
Speaker 3: the devastation and thinking of the moments of the people
Speaker 3: that were going through the horrificness of the fire last year,
Speaker 3: and then having a chance to talk to a couple
Speaker 3: of young guys on the beach yesterday about their fire
Speaker 3: day experience. The stories are incredible and sad, but the
Speaker 3: stories of some of the heroic approaches that some of
Speaker 3: these people did for people that couldn't fend for themselves
Speaker 3: and couldn't help themselves, whether it would be escaping the
Speaker 3: path of the fire, or getting food to them or
Speaker 3: helping them recommunicate with their families. It kind of gives
Speaker 3: you chills when you sit there and listen, but you
Speaker 3: can't take your eyes off of them because it's an
Speaker 3: experience hopefully they'll never have to go through ever again
Speaker 3: in their life.
Speaker 1: Was it what you anticipated seeing with your eyes or
Speaker 1: was it worse than you thought?
Speaker 3: It was worse because you know there's people out here
Speaker 3: that you know as well. And when you see miles
Speaker 3: of neighborhoods that are are nothing, there's nothing that Every
Speaker 3: once in a while you'll see a bean from a
Speaker 3: house or a port stabilizer, but the complete devastation of
Speaker 3: the path of the fire.
Speaker 2: In listen, excuse me.
Speaker 3: On the news, we see the path and destruction of
Speaker 3: the tornadoes that happened recently in Oklahoma, and you know
Speaker 3: that type of devastation, and that's the type of devastation
Speaker 3: it is, but it took out an entire city of
Speaker 3: the town of Lahina, of all the businesses, all the restaurants,
Speaker 3: all the shops, all the apartment just everything that was
Speaker 3: in its path. And so I am going to have
Speaker 3: a chance to go behind the lines to see have
Speaker 3: a closer, up front look at what's going on, and
Speaker 3: you know, I'll have more for you. But from what
Speaker 3: I've seen so far, it's more devastating than the pictures
Speaker 3: that we all saw when we are back in.
Speaker 1: The mainland, right and at least over one hundred people
Speaker 1: perished in that fire, but the ones who survived, the
Speaker 1: numbness of that and the direction moving forward has got
Speaker 1: to be a scary feeling for sure.
Speaker 3: It is because it's still unclear of how they're going
Speaker 3: to go about the rebuilding process. Because they still have
Speaker 3: a work community out here of people that are working
Speaker 3: seven days a week, twelve hours a day.
Speaker 2: In the cleanup process.
Speaker 3: So as you come down the highway, you see multiple
Speaker 3: semi dump trucks loaded with the destruction that's left behind
Speaker 3: and taking it behind.
Speaker 2: Or by the designated landfill.
Speaker 3: So it's a continuous, every single day work in progress
Speaker 3: and hopefully in the years to come, it's for the better.
Speaker 1: All right, Tommy, Well, keep us informed on that. People
Speaker 1: can help, I'm sure along the way listen to the podcast,
Speaker 1: so we'll definitely be tuned in for that. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to you next week. We'll talk to you Thursday night,
Speaker 1: Bears Weekly, and we'll fill you in how working mini
Speaker 1: camp's going. And we'll have the schedule by that time,
Speaker 1: I would imagine as well. So that'll be fun to
Speaker 1: break down. Tommy. Enjoy your time, buddy, You've earned it,
Speaker 1: ye big Jeff, that's tom Thanker. I'm Jeff Jonie. Thanks
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