1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: I'm Doug Prisner and I'm Brian Curtiz. Here are the 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. Well, the US labor market showed 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: some new signs of resilience today, private hiring surge, layoff slowed, 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 2: and filings for unemployment benefits stayed relatively low. Next, traders 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: will have their eyes on the US employment report for June. 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: We'll get those numbers tomorrow at eight thirty in the morning. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: Wall Street Time Bloomberg's Michael McKee, how's a preview? 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: Economists aren't buying the ADP data showing almost half a 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: million jobs created in June, but traders are asking what 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: if a FED rate hike is all but priced in 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 3: for this month, and expectations are that labor market remains 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 3: tight enough to be an inflation problem even if the 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 3: ADP numbers are overstated. At their June meeting, FED officials 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 3: also lowered their unemployment forecast for the year, now, anticipating 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: the jobless rate will rise to four point one percent, 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: But the consensus is after going up in May, unemployment 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: likely fell again in June, which leaves the final question 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 3: what happened with wages? ADP and the market forecast is 20 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: that earning's growth slipped in June. That would be something 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 3: the FED is looking for. Michael McKee, Bloomberg Daybreak Agent. 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: Well, today's Fed speak played right off the economic news 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: of the day. We heard from the head of the 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: Dallas Fed, Lauri Logan, who was voicing her concern about 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: inflation still running too hot, and she said that more 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: rate hikes would likely be needed. 27 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 4: I remain concerned about whether inflation will return to target 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 4: in a sustainable and timely way, and I think more 29 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 4: restrictive monetary policy will be needed to achieve the fomc's 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 4: goals of stable prices and maximum employment. 31 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: That is the head of the Dallas Fed, Lori Logan. 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: She went on to say it's important for the FED 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: to follow through on the signal it's sent at the 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: June meeting. You might remember last month forecast from FED 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: officials showed they're expecting two more rate hikes this year. 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: Now markets have penciled in one for July, but the 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: market is a little split at this point on whether 38 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: the Fed will deliver another. 39 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: Brian Well, the US is said to haveverged Hong Kong 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: banks and institutions to curb exports to Russia. Bloomberg's Juan 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: Wong has the story From Hong Kong. 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 5: Three US Treasury officials reportedly visited Hong Kong and June. 43 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 5: The Nick reported the officials asked banks and regulators to 44 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 5: help identify US high tech items being shipped to Russia 45 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 5: via Hong Kong. They also asked the banks to strengthen 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 5: due diligence when dealing with transactions related to items on 47 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 5: the US export control list. Representatives who attended are said 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 5: to be from HSBC, Standard Chartered and the Hong Kong 49 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 5: Monetary Authority. Most of them declined to comment. The meetings 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 5: took place days before US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 5: visited China. That's when concern grew in Washington and Europe 52 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 5: over China's economic relationship with Russia and Hong Kong. And 53 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 5: Joan Wang Bloomberg day Brigaisia. 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: Officials that the European Union are said to be pushing 55 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: Beijing to narrow the scope of China's export control for 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: two key medals. We have more from Bloomberg Spanaou in 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: Hong Kong. 58 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 6: The EU wants to ensure that export restrictions are based 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 6: on security implications. And that the restrictions comply with WTO rules. 60 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 6: Earlier this week, China announced export curbs on two key 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 6: metals used in semiconductors and evs. The EU said it 62 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 6: is concerned that China is weaponizing critical materials. Chinese restrictions 63 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 6: came just days after the Dutch government published new controls. 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 6: Those controls will hinder Chinese companies access to chip making equipment. 65 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 6: The EU is now assessing the impact of the new 66 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 6: Chinese restrictions on industry and business. This would also include 67 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 6: what steps to take, if any, to counter the action 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 6: in Hong Kong. I'm bonni Al Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 69 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: Banks including JP, Morgan Chase and Goldman Sachs Or lining 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: up around nine point four billion dollars of debt. It's 71 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: all to back gtcr's purchase of a majority stake in 72 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: World Pay. The story from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 73 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 7: It'll be the largest buyout financing in over a year, 74 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 7: sources tell Bloomberg. The financing will include eight point four 75 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 7: billion of leverage loans and high yield bonds denominated primarily 76 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 7: in dollars but also in Euros. The private equity firm 77 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 7: GTCR agreed to purchase a fifty five percent stake in 78 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 7: payment processor world Pay, the Fidelity National Information Services unit 79 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 7: that handles card payments for global businesses, valuing the company 80 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 7: at eighteen point five billion dollars. FIS will retain a 81 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 7: forty five percent steak In New York, Charlie Pellett Bloomberg 82 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 7: Daybreak Asia. 83 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtis, along with Doug Kriisnervishad Salama will join 84 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: us in a few moments. So looking over at Janet 85 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: Yellen's arrival here in China, Doug, she didn't say too much. 86 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: I was just looking through her Twitter feed and basically 87 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: just saying happy to be here. It's a good opportunity 88 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: to guard against miscommunication. Once she gets going, I think 89 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: it will like a lot of the oxygen out of 90 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: the newsflow. But we did have these other interesting announcements 91 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: John Kerry now China this month, and also this agreement 92 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: I heard you chatting about a few moments ago the 93 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: EV makers in China, including Tesla, to ditch the price war. 94 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting. You'd think that would be positive, 95 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: but almost all of these EV makers sold down pretty 96 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: aggressively here two four six percent. I don't think it's 97 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: connected to that agreement. It may just be some of 98 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: the weakness that the weakness and growth was seeing in China. 99 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 2: But it is kind of interesting. 100 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: It is, and some analysts were saying that the price 101 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: were initiated by Tesla was a part of the slow 102 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: growth story that we had in EV sales so far 103 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: this year. Many of the major brands, and I'm going 104 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: to throw on that list byd Neo x punk Jeli, 105 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: they have struggled, I think a little bit, at least 106 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: they did initially when Tesla decided to come in and 107 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: be a little bit more aggressive in terms of getting 108 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: sales volume up in China. 109 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll settle down now, I suppose. And it 110 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: seemed to be pushed by the Chinese side rather than 111 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: say Tesla. Tuzzl was the only foreign automaker that was 112 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: part of that deal. So that's something we can take 113 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 2: a closer look at a little bit later. The action 114 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: on Wall Street shows you that in terms of the 115 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: jobs report tomorrow, investors don't want too strong or too weak. 116 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: They'd be happy with something right in the middle, close 117 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: to expectations. Thank you very much. 118 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: Let's move on Yeah, there was an enormous volatility, as 119 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: we said earlier in the bond market today, at one 120 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: point the two year was at five twelve sixteen year 121 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: high that faded. We ended sub five percent in New 122 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: York trading. But you're absolutely right. I think it's fair 123 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: to say we're looking at a twenty five basis point 124 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: rate hike from the Fed later this month, growing possibility 125 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: that we're going to see one, perhaps two rate hikes 126 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: before the end of the year. 127 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: And we've got a funk in the equity markets, as 128 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: you mentioned, basically everything down the markets on Wall Street, 129 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: also in Europe. The future is for Asia today looks 130 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: like we're entering into a period or maybe there's a 131 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 2: little bit of give back, and we'll wait and see 132 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: what happens with the jobs report. Now it's time for 133 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: Global News. NATO's Secretary General Jen Stoltenberg saying that it's 134 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: possible for an agreement next week on Sweden's admission to 135 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: NATO at Baxter has Global News in the nine sixty 136 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: newsroom in San Francisco. 137 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right, Brian, possible maybe the operative word here. 138 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 8: After meeting with foreign ministers from Sweden to Turkey, today. 139 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 8: Stoltberg says a meeting is set for Monday. 140 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 9: Today we reaffirmed that Sweden's membership is within reach and 141 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 9: that gratification of Sweden's membership does not mean the end 142 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 9: of cooperation with Turkeia. Far from it, as Finland's continuing 143 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 9: engagement here today shows. 144 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 8: Now there's someone in Lithuania next week, a meeting involving 145 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 8: Turkey's President recept Aradawan and Sweden's Prime Minister of Christensen. 146 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 9: We still have some more work to do and we 147 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 9: are working on that. Now. We have the meeting today, 148 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 9: we will work over the weekend and then I will 149 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 9: meet with the Prime under President on Monday. 150 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 8: So not a sure thing, but definite progress. US President 151 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 8: Joe Biden has agreed to send cluster munitions to Ukraine. 152 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 8: This fulfills a key request from President Vladimir Zelenski. This 153 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 8: will be part of a dual purpose improved conventional munitions 154 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 8: plan to be announced officially tomorrow. Meanwhile, a rare deadly 155 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 8: attack on civilians in western Ukraine today four people did. 156 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,119 Speaker 8: President Zelenski, in a conversation with ABC's Martha Radditz, says 157 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 8: even more hardware is needed right now. 158 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 10: At sixteen sixteen, or any other equipment that you do 159 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 10: need will give us an opportunity to move faster, to 160 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 10: save more lives, to stand out a drown for a 161 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 10: longer time. 162 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 8: Zelenski, through a translator, says he's very grateful, of course, 163 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 8: for all the aid the US and NATO have provided 164 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 8: so far. Bill Arusen President Alexander Lukashenko says the head 165 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 8: of the Wagner Group, Gefgheny Presotion, is still in Russia 166 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 8: with some of his fighters. He says Saint Petersburg this morning, 167 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 8: but could have gone to Moscow. His status and mission 168 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 8: are not disclosed. China's President Shi Shinping has told the 169 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 8: military command that oversees the Taiwan Strait to strengthen its 170 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 8: drills and boost its capacity to win wars. CCTV reporting 171 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 8: she instructed the army to break new ground for theater 172 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 8: command development and war preparedness. The Gateway Tunnel, which will 173 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 8: connect New York City to New Jersey, has the final 174 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 8: green light today. Senator Chuck Schumer in New York said 175 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 8: six point eighty eight billion dollars. 176 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: This is the largest ever transportation grant by the federal 177 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: government and the largest ever single transportation grant to New 178 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: York Gateway. 179 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 8: Will serve hundreds of thousands of people a year. Marjorie 180 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 8: Taylor Green has been kicked out of the Freedom Caucus 181 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 8: the official state it says for some of the things 182 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 8: she has done. But tensions really heated up last week 183 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 8: after she blew up a fellow member, Lauren Bobert, calling 184 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 8: her a little well, a little b word. How to 185 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 8: lose friends and not influence people. Global news power by 186 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 8: more than twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts and over 187 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 8: one hundred twenty countries. In San Francisco, I'm Ed Baxter 188 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 8: in this is Bloomberg. 189 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtis, along with Rashad Salamat here in Hong Kong. 190 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,119 Speaker 2: Our guest is David Goodlaw, CEO and chief investment strategist 191 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: at main Stay Capital Management. David yields up. It seemed 192 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: to have a little bit of shock power here seeing 193 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: the two year yield hit five percent and the tenure 194 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: hitting four percent. Your thoughts on the action today, Yeah, 195 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: we've had. 196 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 11: Such a good in Good morning, Brian. We've had such 197 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 11: a good first half for US stocks, and stocks had 198 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 11: actually been almost seemed like they were getting complacent to 199 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 11: the rise and rates that we've had over the last 200 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 11: couple of months. But today with that ADP number almost 201 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 11: half a million jobs, I think it's just reminded to investors, 202 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 11: reminded the markets that the Fed and Jerome Powell have 203 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 11: a long way to go to break the back of labor, 204 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 11: which is what they're trying to do to ensure that 205 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 11: they can get down to their two percent target, and 206 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 11: we've seen labor just continue to remain very, very strong, 207 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 11: even after more than a year of rate hikes in 208 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 11: the US. 209 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 12: David, the thing is is a recession the price worth 210 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 12: paying well. On the other hand, is a recession after 211 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 12: years and years of our life support from various bodies, 212 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 12: including the FED, something that the economy really does need. 213 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 11: Well. With the yield curve in version that we've had 214 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 11: for so long now and so steep. Every time we've 215 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 11: had a yield curve inversion, not even the steep since 216 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 11: nineteen eighty one, we've had a recession to follow. But 217 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 11: that recession keeps moving down. As I've said, the recession 218 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 11: that is always six months away, and now many are 219 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 11: moving it into the first quarter of twenty twenty four. 220 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 11: So you know that recession threat is still there. But 221 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 11: if we look at it the economic data that's command. Look, 222 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 11: you know the jobs report today alone, and we're going 223 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 11: to get non farm payrolls tomorrow. But we've had jobless 224 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 11: claims down, we've had consumers set of it up, we 225 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 11: have housing recovering, we have a resilient economy in the 226 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 11: face of this five hundred point five hundred basis point 227 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 11: increase in the FED funds rate. So it is I 228 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 11: think it's thought by many that the Fed will raise 229 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 11: rates until they break something, and what that will be 230 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 11: is that recession. But right now we've had a very 231 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 11: resilient economy in the face of it. 232 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like we were kind of setting aside 233 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: Fed fears for a while and then this happens. It 234 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: kind of shows you, I think that while the rallies 235 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: that we've seen in the equity markets have kind of 236 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: been built on well, yeah, interest rates are up, but 237 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: look how well the economy is doing. And now you 238 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: also have this other fear of well, if he's doing 239 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: that well, it's going to stoke a lot more action 240 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 2: from the Fed. So, I mean, could you even see 241 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: six percent coming into the picture now for the terminal rate. 242 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, unfortunately, there's a lot higher probability of that. And 243 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 11: you know, in all fairness, I'm the one that has 244 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 11: said on your show that the FED has gone far 245 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 11: enough already, and I still think they've gone far enough 246 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 11: because we know it takes three to eighteen months to 247 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 11: feel the full impact of monetary policy on the economy. 248 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 11: And you know, I believe that next week we'll see 249 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 11: headline CPI in the US with a three handle and 250 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 11: maybe a low three handle. 251 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 7: Yeah. 252 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 11: Core has been sticky, of course, but yeah, it's the 253 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 11: concern that the economy is resilient. The FED is going 254 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 11: to have to raise more, especially when we're talking about 255 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 11: labor to get unemployment where they wanted to be where 256 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 11: they think it needs to be. To achieve a two 257 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 11: percent inflation target that that lasts one or two percent, 258 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 11: that last one and a half percent, that's that's going 259 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 11: to be very tough. And I think that's the fear 260 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 11: that they go far enough that they do break something. 261 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 12: So what does that mean in terms of allocations? 262 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 11: David, Well, there it's really for this year. What's worked 263 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 11: out very well in stocks, obviously is the mega cap stocks, 264 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 11: which have been largely unaffected, you know, versus smaller companies 265 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 11: that depend more on debt that mean more interest rates. 266 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 11: These large companies just continue to deliver good earnings as well. 267 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 11: The mega cap stocks that magnificent seven, Apple, Microsoft, Alphabet, Amazon, Nvidia, Tesla, Meta. 268 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 11: We've had today, Apple and Microsoft both positive in the 269 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 11: face of what we had going on in market action today. 270 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 11: On the other end of that barbell, if you will, 271 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 11: is ultra short term bonds that are providing these high yields. 272 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 11: You know, even though the long duration bonds are suffering 273 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 11: and you know, are suffering over the past couple of months, 274 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 11: we look at the short term where we're just looking 275 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 11: at that current yield for total return, and you've got 276 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 11: a pretty good combination. There also some foreign markets we like. 277 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, there has been a little bit of a push 278 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: into cyclicals and value. That didn't happen today. It was 279 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: a little bit of a rough day. Energy down to 280 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 2: and a half percent, industrials down three quarters of a percent. 281 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: But that's also that's also a way to sort of 282 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: get away from the Magnificent seven, right, I mean, are 283 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: there some areas there you. 284 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 11: Like it is, But the concern is if we are 285 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 11: if we still think of recession is in the cards. 286 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 11: How much how much of them move into cyclical do 287 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 11: you want to make now at this point? So you 288 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 11: have to pick your points very carefully. And there's some 289 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 11: areas that you know, we'll stand up better over the 290 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 11: coming months than others. But what has worked the best, 291 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 11: and I think we'll continue to make cap stocks will 292 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 11: continue to do well. In June we saw a resurgence 293 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 11: in small cap stocks doing quite a bit better. But 294 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 11: it's going to be I think, very tricky here in 295 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 11: the second half of the year, even though we think 296 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 11: the market holds up well with a correction and then 297 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 11: looking toward that shallow recession in twenty twenty four. 298 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 12: So is it time to get into emerging market assets 299 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 12: here as well? And I'm saying that with China included, 300 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 12: and just to add a little bit of another question 301 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 12: on top of that, which is what would make China 302 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 12: investable and attractive? 303 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 11: Yeah, China's tough right now. You know, we've had to 304 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 11: talk about Janet Yellen's trip there. What's to be accomplished. 305 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 11: It's good that they're communicating, but you know, there's probably 306 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 11: relations between China and the US are arguably at the 307 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 11: worst ever, and there seems to be trouble making improvement there. 308 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 11: And as we talk about de risking our global supply chains, 309 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 11: China looks at that as decoupling. So you know, we 310 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 11: have more of these trade type wars going on with 311 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 11: export bands and so forth. It's just not a good 312 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 11: environment right now. In addition to the internal problems that 313 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 11: China has. We like Japan and the other Asia markets 314 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 11: probably better than China alone right now. 315 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I seem to remember that you had liked Japan. 316 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: It's run a lot. At what point do you start 317 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: to worry about a lot of the gains. 318 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 11: Are in Well, that's a good question. You know, we're 319 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 11: it's run all the way back to the high that 320 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 11: it was at when I was at Stanford University three 321 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 11: decades ago. It's been a long time in coming back 322 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 11: showing my age there. But the you know, Japan's just 323 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 11: got a lot going for it. The yen has been 324 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 11: weak relative to the dollars, so a hedged instrument has 325 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 11: worked well, has added to the return. Foreign investment in 326 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 11: Japan has brought in thirty nine billion in the last 327 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 11: three months. Three hundred and seventy companies have announced share 328 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 11: buybacks totally another thirty two billion. There's just and there's 329 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 11: just huge divergence in monetary policy that continues. 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