1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ? Bucky 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: back with you? Buck? It is a uh what day is? 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: It's a Wednesday? Right? They all start running together during 5 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: this time of year. But man, we are you say 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: it every time, we are inching closer and closer. I 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: just need this thing to hurry up and get here. Man, Yeah, 8 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: were two weeks away. We're two weeks away, and there's 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: a lot of conversation. Uh. We call this the month 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: of April is lying season because we can't get good 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: answers from our guys on who's who and what's what. 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: But you know, I think the funny thing is the 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: more that NFL news hits, the more it has an 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: impact on the draft. We'll talk about some of these things, 15 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: but I think we have to talk about it because 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: Derek Carr signs the deal and I think it's with 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: three year, a hundred and twenty one point one million 18 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: uh an extension puts him in the forty million dollar club. 19 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: The Raiders. I didn't think we're in the quarterback market, 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: but it's another sign of the times in terms of 21 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: where the quarterback tears are so if you have a 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: good two let's say very good, not good, very good 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: to great quarterback, forty million is the mark and then 24 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: there's this huge cab in between. And I think what 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: it's going to do DJ, and we'll talk about it, 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: is it's going to put people in a thing where 27 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: you have to make real decisions on your quarterback. Your 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: quarterback is either good enough to be great or we 29 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: need to find the next one. And I think you're 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: going to see a position that is more transient than 31 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: ever in terms of people moving on and off quarterbacks, 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: because now the money is so high that you can't 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: afford just to keep a guy just for the sake 34 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: of saying, well, you know he's been in quarterback he starts. 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: The money is too significant and to change the chemistry 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: in your locker room if someone who is just okay 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: is making forty million dollars. Yeah. One of a couple 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: of different things on this. First of happy for Derek Carr. 39 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: If you've met him, he's literally just a great dude. Um, 40 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: He's a he's a good leader. He's been thrust into 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: an impossible situation over the last couple of years with 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: what's going on. I mean this team. Look, they went 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: through a move from Oakland to Vegas. You had all 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: the Jon Gruden stuff. Um, you had the awful, awful 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: tragedy with with Henry Ruggs and in the car accident 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: that took a life. I mean, he's been through so 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: many different things there and he's he's kind of been 48 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: the face of the team. He stood there in the 49 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: middle of all of it and had the team in 50 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: the postseason last year with the ball in their hands 51 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: with a chance to to beat a team that went 52 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: on to the Super Bowl. So um, look happy for him. 53 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: He love to see good things happen to good people. 54 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: So good for Derek Carr. I think this sets up really, 55 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, I have to have research look at this, 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: but really something unique in that I think the quarterbacks 57 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: are locked in this division and we're not gonna see 58 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: any different faces for the next I would guess how 59 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: long Russell can go. I think Russell has got at 60 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: least four or five more years. Herbert's not going anywhere, 61 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: Mahomes is not going anywhere, Derek now was not going anywhere, 62 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: and I think Russell is going to be there for 63 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: a while. So I don't I don't know how long 64 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: it's been since we've had a division because usually have 65 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: one one team that's always you know, churning. You know, 66 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: you think about, Okay, Roger's been in Green Bay forever, 67 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: Cousins has been in Minnesota now for a minute, but 68 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: then Detroit and Minnesota, you know, moving parts. It's hard 69 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: to find a division with this type of continuity we're 70 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 1: gonna have, which is gonna make four some unbelievably compelling 71 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: games here in the future. Yeah, unbelievably compelling games. Russell 72 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Wilson will probably have a contract that's probably coming down 73 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: the pipe. Um. The interesting thing will be and one 74 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: day we'll talk about we don't have to I don't 75 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: have to put you on the spot now because don't 76 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: know you're doing interest. But DJ, how do we rank 77 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the a f C West. That is 78 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a fast off season, Brothers. That's an episode 79 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: that's a fascinating discussion because that division right there, where 80 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: you have four I would say, very good to elite 81 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the same division. Man the pecking order. Not 82 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: want to be in the a f C if I'm 83 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,839 Speaker 1: a team builder, because it is tough sledding to get 84 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: out of the a f C. No doubt we're gonna 85 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: get the sun to some other concepts and other thoughts 86 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: today that I think kind of will play off of 87 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: what we've just discussed here with this new contract here 88 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: with Derek Carr, I want to look pull up this 89 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: Raider's team, by the way, when you look at what 90 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: they've been able to accomplish in the off season, Um, 91 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: Davantae Adams, which we're gonna get to and and some 92 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: things and how that can impact this upcoming draft. You 93 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: look at what they did, you know with the pass rush, 94 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: when you throw Chandler Jones on the opposite side of 95 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: Max Crosby, you know, them just staying healthy. This offensive 96 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: line is is pretty solid. You know, they don't have 97 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: a ton of draft capital buck, but this this roster's 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: is pretty good. Man. It's a pretty complete roster they've 99 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: got right now. And Josh McDaniels I think matches, you know, 100 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 1: the personnel. Obviously, they give Derek Carr no trade clause. 101 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: They're tied into him. He believes he fits what they do. Um, 102 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: we've said it, Hunter, Renfroz, gonna at your million balls 103 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: in this offense. You've got Waller, You've got Davante Adams. 104 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's a lot of talent there. Now, Yeah, 105 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: a lot of talent and the DJ the hardest thing 106 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: to do and profoo ballers go from good to great. 107 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: I believe the Raiders have a chance to do that. 108 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: With the moves that they've made this offseason. There's no 109 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: doubt in anyone's mind that this is a better football 110 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: team than the one that tried it out and played 111 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals in the postseason. And when you think 112 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: about how close that was there, that game was, they 113 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: were in the red zone with a shot to throw 114 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: it into the end zone to tie the game against 115 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: the team they went to the Super Bowl. You have 116 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: an opportunity to now add Davantae Adams to that roster, 117 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones to that roster. I mean, you're just a 118 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: much better team because I will say this, and I 119 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: like Max Crosby, but now the attention in that division 120 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: when you're facing the Raiders goes to Chandler Jones as 121 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: pass rusher one. Max Crosbys pass rusher too. I think 122 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,119 Speaker 1: he has a chance to get two double digit sacks 123 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: now playing opposite Chandler Jones. We because he doesn't get 124 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: the attention that he was receiving last year. Because last 125 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: year he was the focal point Yanniking gott Away was 126 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: the other guy. The role flips this year for him 127 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: and then Davante Adams. I don't know how you're gonna 128 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: elect to cover the Raiders when you have Darren healthy, healthy, 129 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,559 Speaker 1: Darren Waller, hunter Renfro and Davante Adams of the guys 130 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: that you're gonna have to be willing to live with, 131 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: and in terms of letting them go off, I think 132 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: hunter Renfroll may he may surpass Cooper cups numbers. He's 133 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: gonna catch the most balls and I think he'll catch 134 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: more balls next year than Davante does. Because if I'm 135 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: playing them, I cannot let Davante Adams get loose and 136 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: I cannot let Darren Waller get loose. I have to 137 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: live with hunter Renfro paper cutting me to death. But 138 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: you may be laying in a pool of your own blood. 139 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: Because if Darren Carr is willing to be patient and discipline, 140 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: he is going to carve up defenses with that. And 141 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: we didn't even talk about the running game that they 142 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: can give you with as Jacobs. Yeah, this is a team. 143 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: Now remember no first or second round picks. Those are gone. 144 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: With Vanta Adams, they pick it eighty six in the 145 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: third round. Uh, they've got a four, They've got two 146 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: fives in a seven. So that's what the Raiders have 147 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 1: to try and upgrade their roster. All right. The bulk 148 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: of our conversation is UH is getting ready to start here. 149 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back with 150 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on how the wide receiver and quarterback market are 151 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: going to have a huge impact on this draft. Alright, Buck, 152 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: I want to I want to jump into some numbers. 153 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: Always dangerous when we have these numbers conversations, but I 154 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: want to start, and let's start the conversation with the 155 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: white outs. Then we'll get to the quarterbacks. I think 156 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: there's a chance we see quarterbacks leap into this first round. 157 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: We've talked about the different ideas of you know, did 158 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: they all fall as it's a good quarterback class. Are 159 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: these guys all second round guys that are getting artificially 160 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: pushed up. I want to flesh this out a little 161 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: bit more with numbers that but I want to start 162 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: first of all, with the white outs and how we've 163 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: seen this wide receiver market explode, not just in terms 164 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: of trade compensation what these teams had to give up. 165 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: We went over that a couple episodes ago. But when 166 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: you look at the money, let's look at these new deals. 167 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill four year extension, hundred twenty million UM point 168 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: five million dollar signing bonus on that deal. Um, you 169 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: look at Davante Adams five years, hundred forty million, I mean, uh, 170 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: sixty five million guaranteed. So those averages just off those 171 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: year numbers. You know they spread it out a little bit, 172 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: but that's thirty and eight million respectfully there respectively. Then 173 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: you look at Christian Kirk four years, seventy two million 174 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: UM thirty seven million guaranteed, So you're talking about around 175 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: eighteen million a year. Now, let's go. I went into 176 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: last year's draft, okay, and so I want to think 177 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: about the difference between those players, great players, elite players 178 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: versus the alternative option for some of these teams. So 179 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: let's take the green Bay Packers. When we look at 180 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: the green Bay Packers in their situation, and I know 181 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: you've been adamant about it. We've talked about it a bunch. 182 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: They find whiteouts later in the draft and maybe they 183 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: go that route. But when you think about these numbers 184 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: right here, they picked twenty two and they picked twenty eight. 185 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: If you look at last year two and eight pick 186 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: was a thirteen point four nine five million dollar deal 187 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: over four years, that's an average of three point three 188 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: seven four million. Pick was four years twelve point five 189 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: to five and average of three point one million per year. Now, 190 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that whoever they take, whether that's you know, 191 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: Trailing Burke's or John Dotson, is going to be able 192 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: to be as good as as what you have there 193 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: in Davantae Adams. But you're talking about over twenty million 194 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: a year in savings. This is not just for this year. 195 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: This is a four year contract with this type of 196 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: cost control, plus you get the fifth year option. I 197 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: think this is going to push these wide receivers sky 198 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: high in this draft. I think we're gonna see a 199 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: record number go in the first round. Uh, the other 200 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: team that has a wide receiver need the other side 201 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: of that trade, Tyreek Hill goes Tyreek Kill. If you 202 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: look at replacing him with pick twenty nine, that's four 203 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: years eleven point nine million for a two point nine 204 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: average pick thirty which they owned four years eleven point 205 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: six million, or two point nine just over two point 206 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: nine million per year. That is peanuts. Peanuts, so peanuts. 207 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: So let's talk about this because I feel like we've 208 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: we've talked about this a bunch of different times, and 209 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: we've talked about position of value. But to crystallize it, 210 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: if we talk about bringing economics into it. If this 211 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: is a case where um I heard on record, the 212 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: guys that are making the most money UM by average, 213 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: its quarterbacks, your offensive tackles, your pass rushers, and now 214 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: your wide receivers have to pass the corners. I think 215 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: the wide receivers are up there above the top guys 216 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: are up above the edge rushers. Yeah so so, and 217 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: then you still have the corners. DJ. The first round. 218 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: From an economical standpoint, if we're playing moneyball, you should 219 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: only expand first round pick on those positions going forward, 220 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: because if you're talking about the significant savings, I mean, 221 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: if I'm sitting here looking at even if I look 222 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: at the Packers, and even if the Packers double up 223 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: and say they doubled up in the first round, DJ 224 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: you're still talking about a six million dollar average per 225 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: year compared to I just think about crazy. Let's just 226 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: say in some while scenario they were able to get 227 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: Chris alive and Trailing Burks whoever, whatever other receiver you want, 228 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: both of those guys still command on your fourth of 229 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: what Davante Adams is making. You just you just cycle 230 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: them out. And so because you've been good at developing them, 231 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: I think you can be more aggressive looking at your 232 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: wide receivers in the first round. Now if you treated 233 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: as such. All right, I just pulled up this is 234 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: an article from from end of March. So you know 235 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: we've seen a couple more deals come in, but you 236 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: know that those receiver numbers, they spread that out over 237 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: some years, so that average comes down a little bit. 238 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: But if you just go highest average by position, Patrick 239 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: Mahomes is at forty five million for QBS. Okay, t J. 240 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: Watt is a million with his new newer deal with 241 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: the Steelers wide receivers de Hoops at twenty seven point three. 242 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: That's more than the highest offensive lineman is Trent Williams 243 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: at twenty three million. So it's past offensive tackles. Aaron 244 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: Donald is making twenty two point five as the most 245 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: dominant defensive lineman in football. Jalen Ramsey that arguably the 246 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: best corners making twenty one wide receivers have their crushing. 247 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: They're crushing those numbers. So that's telling you where teams 248 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: are valuing in this passing league. The rules are friendly, 249 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are good. You know, you go get premier players. So, man, 250 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm sitting at that and I'm looking at teams. You know, 251 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: give me some of these teams here at the Jets 252 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: pick four and ten. Okay, they went after Tyreek Hill. 253 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: Let's say that they just say, you know what, we 254 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: love one of these whiteouts, and we don't want to 255 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: take the chance that they get to pick before we 256 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: pick it ten. So we're gonna lock. We're gonna take 257 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: him at four, which I think this argument can lead 258 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: you in that direction. If you don't love the edge rusher, 259 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: then you could say, okay, well, shoot, I think there's 260 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: in terms of value right now, I can put premier 261 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: receiver up there. Pick four. Last year with Kyle Pitts, 262 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: it was a four year deal um with a thirty 263 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: two point nine million, so it was eight point two, 264 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: so you'd be paying your white out eight point too, 265 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: it's still almost a twenty million dollar savings from the 266 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: top house in the league. That's that's dirt cheap. It's 267 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: it's the saving. It's the savings at the top. And 268 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: if you think at the top where you have your 269 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: pick um, how many guys up there have really flamed out? Right? 270 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: I mean we can go all the way back to 271 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: like John Ross and those guys, But typically the wide 272 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: receivers that have been taken at the top of the chart, 273 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins would be the one who didn't quite been okay, 274 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: still productive, but even even even by that measure, eight 275 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: million dollar receiver compared to a twenty eight million dollar receivers, 276 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, we didn't get it. But you know what, 277 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: you always have the option of if he doesn't give 278 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: you that, you move on to the next one, like 279 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: you're not tied into it, Like, okay, it's a rental, 280 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: it's a lease. You move on to the next one 281 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: and see if you can continue to find it. But 282 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: I think there's something to that. And if you take 283 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: that premise and you begin to look at one of 284 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: the depth of the wide receivers, man, hey, I think 285 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: I think you have to treat the wires wide receiver 286 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: position like you used to say, Noah's ark. We're getting 287 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: on in twos. So take one in the first, take 288 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: another one in the third. I think you just have 289 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: to double up. You just that has to be a 290 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: position where you invest in. We're just gonna keep taking 291 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: wide receivers because we're gonna develop them, because you gotta 292 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: develop them at some point. Now, it's it's really interesting 293 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: when you look at those numbers, some of those some 294 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: of those another picked there the Jets. So the Jets 295 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: at ten last year, Davante Smith was an average of 296 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: five million, five million a year for the tenth pick. 297 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: But my my thought process would be there, if you 298 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: love an edge rusher, taking it four. If if your 299 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: top edge rusher, the guys you like, you don't love them, man, 300 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: just take the number one receiver in the draft. Yeah, 301 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: and come back and do what we've seen it. Like 302 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: DJ It was controversial when the Bengals took Jamaar Chase 303 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: over how that how that work out worked out very 304 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: very well. It worked out very well, and so we're 305 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: seeing the return on investment from the majority of the 306 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver and then it won't be a fail safe 307 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: that you get the right guy. But pull up, pull 308 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: up the jets. I know you had had to be 309 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: help help us here. Pull up the Justin Jefferson numbers. 310 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: But what was his contract on there? Uh? It was 311 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: four year, thirteen point one. Like, just listen to that. 312 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: Just listen to that three point two million dollar average here. 313 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, we had a team that just 314 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and talked about, you know, screw 315 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: them picks. I get it, and they hit. They drew 316 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: like an inside straight in order to get that all 317 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: the work out and they nailed it. But man, it's 318 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: an easier way to go if you can get these 319 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: guys right. Yeah, if you can get them right, like, yeah, 320 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: it's a more cost effective way of building your team. 321 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: And DJ I hate to see it, man, but those 322 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: five positions that we mentioned when it comes to the money, Yeah, 323 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: you just gotta have to tell you. Scott's a like. 324 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: I love I love the fact that you give them 325 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: a first round grade or whatever. But we all love 326 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: that tight end. I love that linebacker, I love that safety. 327 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: But we only picked quarterbacks, pass rushers, wide out, tackles, 328 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: and coins in the first round. That's it. That's because 329 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: it's so much of a savings it's not. I think 330 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: that's what people have got to start wrapping their minds around, 331 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: is this is not a player for his player. You've 332 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: got the factor in the cost and the value and 333 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: the alternative of what it's gonna cost you to fill 334 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: that position. So it's like, well, you know what, I 335 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: have this player just a little bit higher than that player. Yeah, 336 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: but man, if I don't take this edge rusher, I'm 337 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: gonna have to go get one in free agency and 338 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: it's gonna cost me two players on our team. But 339 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to resign because how big 340 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: that number is. If we get hit on the edge 341 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: rusher here, Man, I save those two guys. It's it's 342 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: like you're like lifeboats, man, Like you're you're throwing life 343 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: preservers and keeping different guys on your roster when you 344 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: can hit on some of these dudes and the and 345 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: the money is relative. And so like with the draft bus, 346 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: we have to get used to, hey man, we're gonna swing. 347 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna swing, and we're gonna miss some, but a 348 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: first round, like because we all were so conditioned to 349 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: say that Hey, man, if you miss on the first round, 350 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: it crosses your roster. I mean, yeah, you don't wanna 351 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: you don't want to have like a complete failure. But 352 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: if he can be like a functional starter, like you 353 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: just can't at least out. We're not looking to replace him. 354 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: He's got a spot, he's starting. Maybe he's not a blue, 355 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: you know, but he's a he's a functional starter. And 356 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: and so we we've talked about it. You will lose 357 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: your job. All singles and doubles, you'll lose your job 358 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: if you strike out. Now that that now that being said, 359 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: that being said, like you think about our grading skill 360 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: or the grading skills we were in, like mine was. 361 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: If you had a six seven player, you don't want 362 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: to take a six one corner over a six seven 363 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: whatever else. But that's what that does is then you 364 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: get on the phone and you can move back, hopefully 365 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: and try and get a little bit more value there 366 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: for for said player. Obviously, we can't have a first 367 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: round with just those positions. There are enough to go around, 368 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: so you don't want to. You don't want to sacrifice 369 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: massive amounts of talent. What we're talking about is if 370 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: it's relatively close you got. Let me give you an example, 371 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: like if you looked at they're different, different drafts, but 372 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: if you had you're locked in, you can't move, and 373 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: you had Kyle Pitts and Cleveland Ferrell there, you'd be like, hey, 374 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: I got seven Oh, I got a seven oh on 375 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts, I got a sixty one on Cliff Farrell, 376 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: Like I can't, I gotta take tight end. You know 377 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: what I mean. That's kind of what we're saying. Yeah, um, 378 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: let's talk about quarterbacks. Let's look at the quarterback numbers. 379 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: So this is the same conversation as we switch it 380 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: over and talk about qbs. Um, you look at at 381 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: some of these teams and where they're picking this year, 382 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, do you consider a quarterback? You know, 383 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: what do you what do you want to do here? 384 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: You know, is our veteran quarterback option better than what 385 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: they have there? And this is what it tweeted out 386 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: the other day was it's not again, it's not your 387 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: veteran starter. It's not Drew Lock versus this guy, or 388 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: I should use a better example of somebody who's on 389 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: a second contract. It's not Ryan Tannehill versus you know 390 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett. It's Ryan Tannehill versus Kenny Pickett plus the 391 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: two or three other players you're gonna be able to 392 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: bring into the fold. Um. You know, that's how you 393 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: got to compare them. So let's look at well, let's 394 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: just take that team because I think it's an interesting one, 395 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: under the radar potential quarterback team. Nobody's talked about Tennessee. Okay, 396 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: so you look at Tennessee Titans. They picked twenty six. 397 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: So if you look at the twenty six pick last 398 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: year was Greg Newsome, So that would be a four year, 399 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: twelve point seven million dollar deal. So the average would 400 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: be three point one million, three point one eight seven 401 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: million for a quarterback. So we could say, okay, if 402 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: Tannehill is a little bit better, I like Tannehill a 403 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: little bit better there than uh than Kenny Pickett. But 404 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: Tannehill this year is going to make uh. Let's see 405 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: the cap numbers, thirty eight point six million. If they 406 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: were to cut him after this year, the cap pit 407 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: would be eighteen million. But they could spread that out 408 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: right to do the post June cutter what have you. 409 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: Now you're talking about a massive savings from thirty thirty 410 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: eight million to now you're gonna have a three million 411 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: dollar charge. You know what you can You can pay 412 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: a J. Brown with that money. You do a lot 413 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: of different a lot of different things with that money. 414 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: And like Tannehill is thirty four years old. That was 415 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: a team last year that you know, beat everybody. They 416 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: have c during the regular season they had what nine 417 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: sacks against the Bengals and lost. He turned the ball 418 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: over three times. And I like for Ran Tan Ryan Tannehill. 419 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: But they might be saying, m hm, we just got 420 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: new contracts for the GM and the head coach. We've 421 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: got security. We don't need this quarterback to come in 422 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: and play next year. We're gonna roll one more year 423 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: with Tannehill. But then after that, man, we can cut 424 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: that number all the way down and we can start 425 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: over and kind of build the build the rest of 426 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: that roster up, retain your key guys, and see if 427 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: you can't make a run. I think those are the 428 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: decisions that people got to be thinking about right now. Yeah, 429 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: he's very vulnerable to kind of get that. Oh, I 430 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: didn't know we're taking a quarterback first round, But dude, 431 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: did you did you think he was thirty four, he's 432 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: thirty four years old. Like I still think of Ryan Tannehill, 433 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: like he's or twenty nine, He's gonna be thirty four 434 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: years old next season. Thirty four. What what draft class 435 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: was he was he in? Andrew Like, that's Russell Wilson's age. 436 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: He was two thousand twelve, the two that's the class. 437 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: That's the Andrew Luck class. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, 438 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and that one, right, yeah, yeah, that's it. Wow. 439 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: But like those are like I'm just throwing the Titans 440 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: out as an example. There might be like, who are 441 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: some other teams you think could potentially sleeper, like sleeper 442 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: quarterback teams. Well, see, I don't know if it's a sleeper. 443 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: When I went down and I looked at about the 444 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: draft order, right, and you look at the teams like 445 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: they're not teams that I'm like, okay, like you had 446 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, there's none really down there in the bottom. 447 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: But when I go to the top of the second round, yeah, 448 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: give me those teams here and I'm looking at the 449 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: teams and I'm looking at the Seattle Seahawks have picks 450 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: forty and forty one. So if it doesn't go the way. 451 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: We think they could easily get back in the first 452 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: round and get the quarterback they want. If he's up there. 453 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: Texas won't do it. Just won't do it. Just have 454 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: too pig Man Jess have two picks up there. Detroit, Chicago, 455 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: Atlanta is there. Minnesota has forty safe that they took 456 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: a guy last year. The Commanders. Yeah, but Minnesota has 457 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: new leadership and I know they just they just extended Kirk, 458 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: So maybe that's not a great example of everything. Um, 459 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: the Commanders are the only team I think of all 460 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: those teams does doesn't Tennessee is the one that I 461 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: would That's the one I think I would look at. 462 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't sleep I wouldn't totally sleep on that one. 463 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: There's only one DJ They only one because after you 464 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: get it's the Sames or whatever. They're only one. Which 465 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: is why, man, these quarterbacks, if you're going to they're 466 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 1: going to slide. Because yeah, I think you could make 467 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: an argument that they go on a slide, and I 468 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: think you could for some of these other teams that 469 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: maybe they go up, you know, but that Tennessee, the 470 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: Tennessee thing is one. Yeah, thirty or four year old 471 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: know you know who would you know who would make 472 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Carolina is at six. Okay, Carolina, 473 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: again they pick in front of the Giants at seven, 474 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: who are kind of an offensive line defensive line team 475 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 1: for their needs, Atlanta has got a blinking wide receiver need, right, 476 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: so everybody's been putting a light out there. Um. You 477 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: also look at the you know, Seattle is an offensive 478 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: line team and the Jets could be a receiver team. 479 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: So if the Jets go, don't go receiver at four 480 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: where Carolina is picking. If you're a team that loves 481 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: a receiver, loves a tackle. Even though I could say 482 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: Carolina has a needed tackle and they need a quarterback, 483 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: I think that they not them not having uh second 484 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: or third round picks, they don't pick again until pick 485 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: ONETI seven. Man, I think they would be trying like 486 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: crazy to get out of there. And then if they 487 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: can get out of there and get a Lectra sugar, 488 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: even if they went back, even if they went back 489 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: into the teams, like even to the early twenties to 490 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: get you know, some other picks which would free them 491 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: up to a take a quarterback and maybe a little 492 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,719 Speaker 1: bit you feel a little bit better about the value 493 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: of where you get them and then still be able 494 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: to pick up an offensive lineman or you know, some 495 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: other needs they may have on their roster later on. 496 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: I think that would be you know, that would be 497 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: a team from a trade back standpoint, that just makes 498 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: a ton of sense. And I would position it as, hey, 499 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: you want the white outer alignment, this is this is 500 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: where you gotta go to get in front of the 501 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 1: of the Giants, the Falcons, the Seahawks, and the Jets. 502 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: I think I think the thing about it. Then it 503 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,359 Speaker 1: goes back to the players and how do you grade 504 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: the players the quarterback clusters? How tight of the clusters? 505 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: Where if you say, hey, let's move from six to 506 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 1: I'll just so fifteen, do I feel good enough about 507 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: who potentially could be there? Like we may miss out 508 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: on whoever Kenney Peg and or whatever, but like it 509 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if fift team will take this guy or 510 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, Carolina is tricky because I'm like, I know 511 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: they talked about when they get into market, but DJ like, 512 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: are you can is that Kenny Pick is gonna be 513 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: a He's gonna beat U Sam john On in training camp? 514 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: But I think you could. I think you could look 515 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: at it and say again that same argument of what 516 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: Sam costs and you only got one more year of Sam, 517 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: and you could say, okay, this is it would be 518 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: more of a long term play. My thing is, if 519 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: I were them, I wouldn't want just a long term play. 520 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: I would want to get somebody to come in to 521 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: help me. Now another position that can start, and then 522 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: I would want to have Kenny Pickett stashed and then 523 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: if he beats out Sam, great, If not, it's close enough. 524 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: Next year Sam walks and then Kenny gets the job 525 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: and we have other other resources to fill in around him. 526 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: You have a quarterback in the pipeline. But I don't 527 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: want just Kenny Pickett. So if you take him at six, 528 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: you get just Kenny Pickett. If you could somehow get 529 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: out of there, get Kenny Pickett plus a second or 530 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: third round pick who can come in and play and 531 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: contribute right away. It's it's like, uh, was it like 532 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: Disney plus? I want Kenny plus? That's what I want? 533 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: You want Kenny plus? You want? You want? You want 534 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: some other things? Uh? That what is was it a 535 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: Disney pass where you can get what the bundles? Do 536 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: you want? You want to bundle you can go, and 537 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: then what is the thing um when you go to 538 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: the front of the line fast PASSA. I figured that's 539 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: how you probably operated. You're not waiting in line. I 540 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: never think of that. I always get to the amusement 541 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: park and I always see those jerks and fast pass 542 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: and go. I always dang it, I forgot that should 543 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: have done that. You know, I'm sitting waiting this line 544 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: for an hour and a half or thirty second ride. Uh. 545 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: But you know, look at you know a team that's 546 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: kind of got a sneaky amount of ammunition. It's it's 547 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: weird how it's situated. But the Ravens have one, two, three, four, 548 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: five fourth round picks. They could easily like say, you're 549 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens at fourteen and they have you know, they 550 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: picked second round forty five, third round seventy six, third 551 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: round a hundred. They've got a ton of ammunition. If 552 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 1: let's just give an example of a player like Sauce Gardner, 553 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: for example, if sauce Gardner was there at you know 554 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: where the Panthers are picking at six, did the Ravens say, man, 555 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: we love corners. We can go get a big, long, physical, 556 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: athletic range E corner, like maybe that's maybe that's a 557 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: partner for them. And then you're talking about Kenny Pickett 558 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: to pick fourteen plus whatever you get in that trade. 559 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: We're just making it happen here, Buck, We're trying to 560 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: We're trying to solve problems here today. It's funny because 561 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: you're trying to solve problems. I don't want to get 562 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: in trouble from the Ravens flocked. But you talk about 563 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: a sneaky quarterback team. Oh gosh, hold on, let me 564 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: h dj okay, let's who hear me out for a minute. 565 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: At Bucky Brooks. It's at Brooks ahead m v P player. 566 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: Right now, we can't get him to do a contract. Yeah, 567 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: the price is just going up. It's through the roof 568 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: right now, ownership and everybody has acknowledged that it is 569 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: through the roof. I can't get a deal done, dude, 570 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: we can't get a deal done. I can't even get 571 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: him at forty five million. And are you gonna take 572 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: a leak? You're gonna take my leak and just run 573 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: it back. Different style runners, different style runners. I'm just 574 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm just saying different style, Like we got a different 575 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: he's got a different gear in his arm though. I 576 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: mean he's got different level arm strength now. But now, 577 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: remember we said a sneaky quarterback team, So you have 578 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: tennis I did. I gave you the Titans, man, you 579 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: might have just one up me here sneaky. I fell 580 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: into it because we started talking about it, and I 581 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: started thinking, like a fourteen sitting there, I can't get 582 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback done. You know, you know what else you do? 583 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: If you take Malik Willis there, you keep out of Pittsburgh. 584 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm look, Lamar Jackson's won an m v P. 585 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to act like we're O believing sliding him, 586 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: but he's an unbelievable He's an unbelievable talent. But if 587 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: they're not getting a deal done, that at least you can't. 588 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: You're having this discussion, is what we're getting to. If 589 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: we can't get a deal done. And he showed no 590 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: inkling to want to go back to the table. Yeah, 591 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: everyone is saying like, oh, we can do this, we 592 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: can take the franchise tag. That's still thirty three thirty 593 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: four million dollars. Do you have to do another franchise 594 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: to act? Then he's completely free. But if we don't 595 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: want to play the game and we want to take 596 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: the leverage back, they take the leverage back by getting 597 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback. But what if it turns into the debt. 598 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: What if it turns into the Jordan Love deal. It 599 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: turns into the Jordan Love deal. You gotta lights him 600 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: up and he gets going plays m VP level football game. Shoot, 601 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: take that. I'm just talking. Just make sure when they 602 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: clip this off that they played this in its entirety. Okay, 603 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: don't don't stop before we give lamar as flowers, Okay, 604 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: because I don't want to it's clipped off. We're we're 605 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: taking a holistic thirty foot view here of situation. But 606 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: but DJ, look, I got in trouble last year. I 607 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: got in trouble last year by saying they should let 608 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: him graduate. Right, they should le him graduate. But that 609 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: was under the assumption that, Okay, they let him graduate. 610 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: But if we're still at the same spot where we 611 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: don't have a deal done. Yeah, he's not been back 612 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 1: off the m v P season, which changes the evaluation. 613 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: And he's also coming off an injury, which also changes 614 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: the thing. And I've been one of the biggest advocates 615 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson. But let's just make it a business decision. 616 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: If we're making it a business decision, you now have 617 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: to weigh the pros and cons of do I want 618 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: to wait and have to pay over fifty million dollars 619 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson when we finally get him to the table, 620 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: or do we want to have a plan in place 621 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: where we have a young quarterback. And you want to 622 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: know what, you want to know what the fourteenth pick 623 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: cost last year to kind of bring this whole thing altogether. 624 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: The fourteenth pick last year was a four year deal 625 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: for fifteen point eight million, with an average of three 626 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: point nine million a year. So I don't know what's 627 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: going on with their negotiations. But say Lamar says, hey, 628 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is fifty million. I'm younger. I want a 629 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: m v P as well. I want fifty million. You're 630 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: talking about a difference of savings, a forty six million 631 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: dollars on your cap, the captain. I shouldn't say cap, 632 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: because they can lower that number. But just in terms 633 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: of what you're putting your what you're putting out, oh 634 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: my gosh million a year, not even that. Let's let's 635 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: do it this way because it won't even do let's 636 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: just say fully guarantee, so you know, when you do 637 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: fully guarantee, that money has going escrow right away as 638 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: soon as the deal is done. So million, let's just 639 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: say he wants three hundred million dollars guaranteed based on 640 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: his resume compared to Deshaun Basson's resume. Yeah, Stephen Shot, 641 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, that's what we're that's what 642 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: we're talking about. That we're talking about real money. And 643 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: so if it's one of those things, and if you 644 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: talk about the Disney plus package, yeahs plus plus, that's 645 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: a big bundle. That's a big bundle of my leak 646 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: Willis plus plus plus plus plus plus plus plus. I'm 647 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: just saying that I got all the Baltimore mad at me. 648 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: My son gets mad at me because like you need 649 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: to go easy a Lamar Jackson said, Look, I'm not 650 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: being a hater. I'm just saying, let's just look at 651 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: the economics and the dollars and cents of it. If 652 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: you do it, you get Molik Willis Plus, you have 653 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: the money to then doll out on all these other pieces. 654 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Can you imagine quarterback power with you 655 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: know what they want to do that stuff with that 656 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: big leak willis that big dude coming downhill? Good night? 657 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: You know if you want to. We still got Tyler 658 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: hunting on the roster. So now, so why don't you 659 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: just go all the way in, push yourself all the 660 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: way in here so you can just get all the 661 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: hate right. So watch just go ahead and trade Lamar 662 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: Jackson that want's just go ahead, get this, get the 663 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: trade done. Tell me where he's going. We're gonna trade 664 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: Lamar to Seattle? What are we doing here? What we 665 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: got going on here? I'm not trading. I'm just saying. 666 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying in that discussion DJ, we're not doing our 667 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: due dealers. If we don't have that's the last thing. 668 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: That's the last straw for this offseason. Like this offseason 669 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: has been bunkers right, all the stuff, the craziest stuff, 670 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: all we're missing now sit like the surprise morning of 671 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: the draft of mar Jackson has been traded the Seattle 672 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: Seahawks and everybody just you know, we say that with 673 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: no information whatsoever, So don't run with that. But I've 674 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: been sitting here going like that would be the craziest 675 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: thing man, it could be crazy, and I selfishly I 676 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: root for that type of chaos because it makes for 677 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: a fun event. But alright, we we've we've gone completely 678 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,479 Speaker 1: off the rails today, completely, I know. But how fun 679 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: is that? Though? I know, but I would get I 680 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: will get stuck if I say, like Bucky Brook suggested, 681 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens go for a week with us plus. Yeah, 682 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: take this showing the thing even though there's some credibility 683 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: because the Malik willis plus package. Yeah, it might be 684 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: some prime viewing. Yeah, no kidding, no kidding. Um, alright, dude, 685 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 1: that was That was a fun episode. Man, anything else 686 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: you want to get to before we get out of here? No, 687 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: I just can't wait to see this over the next time. 688 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that I'm hoping that shrapnel doesn't make 689 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: its way over to me. Uh it will, it will. 690 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: By the wayside story, I saw you get some today 691 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: on the Karl loftis right here. I get crushed on 692 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: the on the white guy white guy comp and I'm like, 693 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: come on, man, like they're both not they have the 694 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: same body type, they are the same, they're similar athletes, 695 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: they're both power rushers, they both play hard, they both 696 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: went to the same school for crying out. They're both friends. Like, 697 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: is that the craziest company? Come on, man, come on, yeah, 698 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: I get you get it. Anytime you do comps, you're 699 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: gonna get crushed on that stuff. Man. But I do 700 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: think it's helpful. By the way, my one, the one 701 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: that I was looking act. I've been working on this, 702 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: but I haven't want to get your thoughts on this 703 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: before we get out of here. So I've never used 704 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: that comp before with Cavon Thibodeau, but I thought Merriman 705 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: Sean Merriman coming out had some similarities there, kind of 706 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 1: they're a little bit tightly wound, but they're you know, explosive, 707 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: got some power, they're similar similar her size and you 708 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: know who you know who liked the comp Sean Merriman 709 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: did He For all the grief I get on comps, 710 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: Sean Merriman was like, I see that. That's funny. So 711 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: you remember that year was controversial because it was Sean 712 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: Merriman and DeMarcus Ware. Yeah, cowboys took de Marcus where 713 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: over Sean Merriman. Now, for the first three years of 714 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: the deal, Sean Merriman was he was rolling animal and 715 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: Animal yeah, I mean he was a muster and the 716 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: thing is, uh, the games are a little different because 717 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: Merriman was a little more power. But okay, Tibodau can 718 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: certainly make an impact, like I mean, he could surely 719 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: make an impact right away. And I do think there's 720 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: been a little overcorrection and that stuff, But make no mistake, 721 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: he still can be a dominant player off the edge. 722 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: I do like the comparison. Yeah, there you go. Um, 723 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: all right, man, anything else you want to get to 724 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: before we get out of here? No, that's that's it. 725 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: Are you a path today? Yeah? I'm doing home. Are 726 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: you going in or you're at home? I gotta go, 727 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: I gotta go in. All yeah, No, I'm home. I'm 728 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: home on Wednesdays, off on Fridays, so I'll be back 729 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: up there Thursday. You're going Thursday. Yeah, I'm there. I'm 730 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 1: all right. I'll see you there either. All right man, 731 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,760 Speaker 1: good stuff, Thanks Buck, Thank you to Bill, best producer 732 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: in the business. We'll see you next time. Right here, 733 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: I'll move the sticks