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Speaker 3: to Breaking Points to everyone. Our post election day analysis

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Speaker 3: is here. I know you've been refreshing your browsers waiting

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Speaker 3: for Ryan Grimm, Data of the Century, actually traveled all

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Speaker 3: night from New York City to be home for his

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Speaker 3: son's tenth birthday breakfast, and on top of that, here

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Speaker 3: he is now in the same suit he wore last night,

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Speaker 3: back from the Mom Donnie victory party, ready to help

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Speaker 3: us break it all down. Ryan, Now that you've had

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Speaker 3: some time, I think you napped a little bit on

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Speaker 3: your way, but sometimes to digest everything you watched happen

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Speaker 3: live and in person with Griffin last night. What are

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Speaker 3: you thinking?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was quite a romp for Democrats across

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Speaker 4: the country. So whether you're talking about you know, the

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Speaker 4: kind of Democratic socialists, you know who you know stomped

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Speaker 4: Cuomo in New York City, or the more center left

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Speaker 4: Pennsylvania Supreme Court justices who who won reelection in Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 5: Who blew it out of the water in Georgia.

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Speaker 4: Though that's a it's a non partisan race, but those

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Speaker 4: in Maine, you know, we talked about this ballot measure

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Speaker 4: that Leonard Leo. Leonard Leo had put you know, a

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Speaker 4: enormous amount of money into trying to restrict absentee balloting.

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Speaker 4: It was polling fifty to fifty going into the election.

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Speaker 4: That right now is something like sixty five thirty five,

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Speaker 4: just you know, absolute you know, rejection. Graham Platner had

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Speaker 4: Democrats in Maine. California of course saw it. Its Prop

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Speaker 4: fifty passed, so they'll they'll be jerry mandering and adding,

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Speaker 4: you know, trying to add like five Democrats to the

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Speaker 4: doing the redistricting, and Virginia was like a sweep across

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Speaker 4: the board. Curious for you because you know, you had

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Speaker 4: a pretty terrible Republican candidate who Trump never even endorsed,

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Trump actually never endorsed Winsome Seis until the last minute.

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Speaker 3: He still refused to endorse her. When he was.

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Speaker 5: Teletown hall, he did finally endorse.

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Speaker 3: He did not. He he did a teletown hall the

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Speaker 3: evening of the election, like the anticipated Winsome Sears endorsement.

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Speaker 3: Perhaps it never happened. He just told people to go

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Speaker 3: out and vote for Republicans generic, yes.

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Speaker 5: And they didn't.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of behavior.

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Speaker 5: They did not do that.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, so they lost at least thirteen

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Speaker 3: According to exit polls, Jay Jones and the attorney general

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Speaker 3: Republicans thought they could really have a shot. They did

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Speaker 4: And so I think what's going on there, and curious

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Speaker 5: And he's not.

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Speaker 4: He's there, So all right, Well, now I'm going into

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm glad.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, that's a constituency with basically

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Speaker 3: That's across the board a lot of very normal Americans.

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Speaker 3: So if you go to Amara's and you'd ask them, okay,

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Speaker 3: is this position just qualifying? I totally agree, Ryan, you'd

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Speaker 3: probably find people being like, yeah, that position's totally disqualifying.

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Speaker 3: It's it's how Donald Trump won the twenty fifteen Republican primary,

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Speaker 3: twenty sixteen Republican primary.

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Speaker 4: And Trump disqualifies himself like once a day, well, which

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Speaker 5: And so I think Democrats are like, well, We're done

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Speaker 3: This is the most misunderstood part of the Trump phenomena.

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Speaker 3: You can go and ask an average Republican voter about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, And I think you're seeing that with Platner,

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Speaker 4: Like we and let's say it was this guy like

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Speaker 5: The people who believe that this person actually did it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah there's pulling on that.

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Speaker 4: Like it's not like it's not like it's not really

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Speaker 3: On, and we should see it for everyone. What's going

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Speaker 3: to happen here is that Ryan and Griffin were live streaming.

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Speaker 3: If you didn't catch the whole thing, I didn't even

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Speaker 3: the Winsome series victory party. You guys went all the

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Speaker 3: You had, I mean, just like Congressman Giapolon, Lena Kahan,

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Speaker 3: We're going to tee that up for you by sort

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Speaker 3: of right now breaking down some of the reactions just

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Speaker 4: Really really want to hear, I really want to hear

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Speaker 3: Let's start, Uh, let's start with Luke a compilation producer Mac.

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Speaker 3: I know you have that ready to go, a compilation

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Speaker 3: But first, let's start with this compilation of total meltdowns

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Speaker 3: Here we get Well, you can't imagine how disappointed I am.

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Speaker 5: This is, says name right. I honestly feel bad. I

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Speaker 8: They are officially depressed and scared.

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Speaker 9: And this was also a hostile takeover by the Democratic

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Speaker 7: And this is a crazy situation, true, very very sad

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Speaker 2: The stylish candidate is exactly the wrapping video the older people.

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Speaker 2: This isn't just jed z r I boomers and that

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Speaker 9: All right, Well, I want to bring in our panel

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Speaker 3: They're all of us, so I.

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Speaker 5: Don't think they will cheerful.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you didn't need to.

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Speaker 4: I actually do feel a little bit cheerful, yes, because

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Speaker 4: the problem here for them is that he looks like

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Speaker 4: he's he's tracking to get over fifty percent of the

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Speaker 4: of I can pull up some of Cuomo's really petulant

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Speaker 4: like speech that he gave last night.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he said, uh, you know, nearly half.

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Speaker 5: So he's doing two things there.

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Speaker 7: Because we fought our hearts out and we left it all.

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Speaker 4: He did not fight hard at all. He did not

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Speaker 5: That is not now a.

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Speaker 4: Also not the candidate or all right, So here's zoron

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Speaker 8: Best in private life. But let tonight be the final

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Speaker 4: And you know, in his in his speech, Mom, Dinnas

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Speaker 5: There might be you know.

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Speaker 4: What's I don't want to say unique, but what's unusual

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Speaker 4: there's still big problems. Still need higher wages, Still need

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Speaker 5: So you know there's there's a lot to do.

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Speaker 4: But the thinking is you you try to accomplish these

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Speaker 3: points and crime voters by forty one points, but he

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Speaker 3: won quote cost of living voters by thirty six points

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Speaker 3: and they represented fifty five percent of the electorate. So

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Speaker 3: when people were asked which one of these five issues

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Speaker 3: is the most important facing New York City, So it's

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Speaker 3: not that some of the voters eliminated the idea of

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Speaker 3: immigration being important or crime being important it's just that

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Speaker 3: they said cost of fifty five percent of the electorate

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Speaker 3: said cost of living was more important than immigration or

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Speaker 3: crime as an issue facing New York City, and of

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Speaker 3: those Mamdanni won by thirty six points. So with fifty

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Speaker 3: five percent of the electorate, he won by thirty six points.

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Speaker 3: And Ryan, this poll right here is a vindication of

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Speaker 3: the entire mom Donnie predicate that he gambled his candidacy

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Speaker 3: on in the primary and the general election, and that

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Speaker 3: is vindicated. I think when you look at these numbers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, part of this was his campaign

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Speaker 4: out of the gate, and then part of it was

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Speaker 4: just listening to people and listening to people since he's

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Speaker 4: been in office. But you know, we showed that video him.

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Speaker 4: You know, we're just putting a microphone in front of

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Speaker 4: people's faces, and if you talk to people long enough,

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Speaker 4: they're going to tell you, Yeah, this place is unaffordable.

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Speaker 5: It's killing me.

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Speaker 3: Imagine that. Well, let's actually roll this. Viviake Ramaswami response.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if my audio is working. I'll

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Speaker 3: try to make sure it works. If it doesn't work,

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Speaker 3: I'll send it to you.

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Speaker 12: Ryan.

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Speaker 3: But the Vike Ramaswami, who's obviously running for governor in Ohio,

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Speaker 3: posted probably the most interesting Republican reaction here. It is

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Speaker 3: so far. Let's see if we can hear it. I

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Speaker 3: can't hear it. Can you hear it?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I want to send it to me.

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Speaker 3: On Yeah, I'll send it your way. But yeah, what

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Speaker 3: he's saying is, there's two key takeaways here, and Ryan

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Speaker 3: I just popped it in the signal message. But Ramaswami

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Speaker 3: has two key takeaways and the first one is basically react.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he saw the NBC exit pole

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Speaker 3: that we just referenced, but it's basically reacting to the

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Speaker 3: NBC tipp hole we just reference and saying that Republican

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Speaker 3: candidates need to focus on affordability, cost of living over

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Speaker 3: and over again and hammer that home constantly. Here we go,

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Speaker 3: here's the bak.

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Speaker 13: We got our asses handed to us in New Jersey, Virginia,

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Speaker 13: and New York City. Democrats swept all three. There's two

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Speaker 13: key lessons for Republicans listen carefully. Number One, our side

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Speaker 13: needs to focus on affordability. They may the American dream affordable,

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Speaker 13: bring down costs, electric costs, grocery costs, healthcare costs and

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Speaker 13: housing costs and lay out how we're going to do it.

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Speaker 13: And number two, cut out the identity politics. It doesn't

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Speaker 13: suit Republicans.

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Speaker 5: It's not for us.

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Speaker 13: That's the woke left's game, not ours. We don't care

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Speaker 13: about the color of your skin or your religion. We

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Speaker 13: care about the content of your character.

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Speaker 5: That's who we are.

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Speaker 3: He's referring there, I think, pretty clearly to people like

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Speaker 3: a last staphonic and in the campaign by referring to

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Speaker 3: mom Donnie as a jihadist, which we've covered here multiple times,

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Speaker 3: but is completely insane morally and practically. It is just

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Speaker 3: a crazy, insane move, especially when the guy on the

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Speaker 3: other side is telling people he's going to make it

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Speaker 3: easier to live in New York City. And that is

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Speaker 3: what's important to the average voter, who is not going

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Speaker 3: to believe the guy proudly marching in the Pride parade,

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Speaker 3: not to repeat myself with proudly marching in the Pride parade,

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Speaker 3: but is bringing Sharia law to New York City. I mean, so,

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Speaker 3: I don't know like Vivek is, I think a sort

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Speaker 3: of a squirrely politician, but he's completely right on those

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Speaker 3: two measures. And he's running a gubernatorial race going across

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Speaker 3: Ohio right now. Those are those seems to be pretty

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Speaker 3: correct diagnoses.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if he wants to, you know, push affordability into

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Speaker 4: the centerpiece of the Republican agenda, that's great.

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Speaker 5: That's the whole point.

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Speaker 4: That's that's what you want to happen to get both

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Speaker 4: Let's get both parties working on it.

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Speaker 5: Maybe and like half do it.

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Speaker 4: So but yeah, when he's talking about woke, is he

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Speaker 4: talking about Israel a little bit there too, Like is

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Speaker 4: he's saying that like maybe this like constantly badgering him

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Speaker 4: to go visit Israel wasn't wasn't a good move?

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Speaker 3: It might have been that it might have been a

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Speaker 3: combination of that and referring to him because because the

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Speaker 3: vik finds himself in the crosshairs with the Grapers and

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Speaker 3: Nick Fuentes, and so when he mentioned religion and skin

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Speaker 3: color at the end, I think he is he gets

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Speaker 3: a lot of this as well for his own religious background,

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Speaker 3: focusing on some listens.

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Speaker 4: Him getting attacked at tp USA events for not being Christian.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he gets that a lot. And so I think

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Speaker 3: my understanding of what the Vig said is probably that

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Speaker 3: a lot of it is comes from that. Here's here's

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Speaker 3: how Vance reacted. So just before we went into this

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Speaker 3: recording Jade Events posted around eleven am East Coast time.

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Speaker 3: First of all, he said, you need the Republican coalition

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Speaker 3: is lower propensity, and that means, quote, we have to

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Speaker 3: do a better job turning out voters that we have

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Speaker 3: in the past. He said, quote, we need to focus

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Speaker 3: on the home front. The President has done a lot

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Speaker 3: that has already paid off in lower interest rates and

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Speaker 3: lower inflation. But we inherited a disaster from Joe Biden,

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Speaker 3: and Rome wasn't built in a day. We're going to

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Speaker 3: keep on working to make a decent life affordable in

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Speaker 3: this country. And that's the metric by which will ultimately

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Speaker 3: be judged in twenty twenty six. And beyond that is

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Speaker 3: mom donniism. That's what we should probably say at this point,

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Speaker 3: Ryan and zero point three from JD is the infighting

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Speaker 3: is stupid. I care about my fellow citizens, particularly young Americans,

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Speaker 3: being able to afford a decent life. I care about

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Speaker 3: immigration or sovereignty, and I care about establishing peace overseas

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Speaker 3: or resources can be focused at home. If you care

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Speaker 3: about those things too, then let's work together. Trump meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: has been I don't know if it's fair to say

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Speaker 3: crashing out on truan social He's like he's having a

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Speaker 3: wild one. This is how Trump has been reacting. He

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Speaker 3: right away said thirteen hours ago, so that would have

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Speaker 3: been around eleven thirty pm East Coast time. Quote Trump

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Speaker 3: wasn't on the ballot and shut down were the two

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Speaker 3: reasons that Republicans lost elections tonight unquote according to pollsters.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't cite the bolsters incredible post. Then he posted

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Speaker 3: about the ratings of sixty minutes. And then Republicans terminate

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Speaker 3: the philibuster, get back to passing legislation and voter reform

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Speaker 3: President DJT and then pass voter reform, voter I D

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Speaker 3: no mail in ballot, say Supreme Court from packing, no

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Speaker 3: two state edition, et cetera. All caps, terminate the filibuster.

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Speaker 3: And then he said dot dot dot, and so it

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Speaker 3: begins all caps. Just a lot going on in the

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Speaker 3: mind of Donald J. Trump last night.

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Speaker 4: Ryan, Yeah, shutdown I think definitely hurt them in Virginia,

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Speaker 4: probably hurt them in New Jersey. So I think he's

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Speaker 4: right about that. For him, his name not being on

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Speaker 4: the ballot. Yeah, no, I think I think. I think

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Speaker 4: those track coln not.

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Speaker 3: A filibuster to be removed. That's an interesting one in

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Speaker 3: the wake of losing elections.

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Speaker 4: And every time he does that, Thune comes out and says, no,

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Speaker 4: he's not going to do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but if Trump keeps hitting the drum beat.

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Speaker 3: At first, I thought it was a negotiating tactic over

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Speaker 3: the shutdown, but to post that twice in the aftermath

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Speaker 3: of a pretty big DEM sweep was quite interesting.

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Speaker 4: I saw a Stollar making I think it was Stollar

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Speaker 4: making the suggest He was suggesting that Trump may worry

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Speaker 4: that he's going to lose the Supreme Court case is

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Speaker 4: it today that tariffs are getting so Supreme Court is

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Speaker 4: hearing a challenge to the constitutionality of his of the

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Speaker 4: use of his use of tariffs because Congress has delegated

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Speaker 4: tariff authority to the president, but with but not not

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Speaker 4: in a blanket way where you can just do it

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Speaker 4: the way that he's been doing it, right, you know,

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Speaker 4: just on a whim and for any and for any reason,

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Speaker 4: it's got to be an emergency and it's got to

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Speaker 4: be targeted. He just did a formula and slapped it

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Speaker 4: on the entire world and to at least two courts

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Speaker 4: have struck them down. And so Solar's theory was that

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Speaker 4: he feels like he's going to need Congress for tariffs

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Speaker 4: and he's not going to get it with with the

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Speaker 4: filibuster in place in the court can rule that the

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Speaker 4: tariffs were collected illegally and then you have to give

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Speaker 4: them give them back, which will be a giant mess.

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Speaker 4: That's we're pushing like a trillion dollars or something insane

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Speaker 4: amount of money has come in on these tariffs paid

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Speaker 4: for by consumers and businesses, but it wouldn't be the

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Speaker 4: consumers and the businesses that would.

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Speaker 5: Get the rebates.

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Speaker 4: It would be it would be whatever particular company like

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Speaker 4: paid the tariff. So so I think the tillbutser thing

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Speaker 4: has something to do with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that might. There's an Amekas brief in that case

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Speaker 3: that's interesting too, that suggests Trump could use another authority

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Speaker 3: for it. We'll see if he like again like another

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Speaker 3: technical authority for it. So we'll see if they lose

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Speaker 3: and ended up gambling in that direction. But before we

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Speaker 3: move on from Mom, Donnie Ryan, Well, this is sort

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Speaker 3: of a bigger picture one too. I just wanted to

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Speaker 3: flag some more exit polling. This one shows, for example,

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Speaker 3: young women eighty one percent for Mom Donnie in New

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Speaker 3: York City, surprising, young women were not coming out in

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Speaker 3: droves for Andrew Cuomo, eighty percent for Mikey Cheryl in

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Speaker 3: New Jersey, seventy eight percent for span Berger in Virginia.

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Speaker 3: That's according to NBC's exit polls. It looked I think

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Speaker 3: I retweeted this. It looked also like Mom Donnie did.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 3: Should be to find it here.

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Speaker 5: I saw sixty four percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here it is. He was plus forty with young men.

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Speaker 3: So between the ages of eighteen to twenty nine, Cheryl

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Speaker 3: was up ten with young men, span Berger was up

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Speaker 3: fourteen with young men, and Zaron was up forty with

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Speaker 3: young men. Again, that's according to NBC News's exit pulling.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Democrats keep asking themselves how do we win men?

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Speaker 4: How do we win men? And they keep being told

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Speaker 4: how you win men? And they're like, well, how do

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Speaker 4: we win men without doing that.

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Speaker 10: Show that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, the lesson is actually just you can appeal to

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Speaker 3: men the same way you appeal to women, which is

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Speaker 3: just making their lives better, promising to make their lives better.

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Speaker 4: Right, right, right, But is there a plan b See, well,

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Speaker 4: do you have anything else that's going to require some

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Speaker 4: tax hikes on the rich? And you so sure about that?

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Speaker 3: And right again, I just wanted to get your take

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Speaker 3: on a little something going on here. This is Frank

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Speaker 3: Luntz looking at some of these counties in Virginia. He says,

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Speaker 3: every single county in Virginia shifted blue ward tonight. These

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Speaker 3: analyses in the New York Times with the arrow are

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Speaker 3: my new election night favorites of the last couple of cycles.

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Speaker 3: So look at this Loudon County, which was we were

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Speaker 3: talking about this a bit last night, the battleground of

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Speaker 3: the parental rights movement in the Yunkin election. That was

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Speaker 3: twelve points shifted twelve points for Abigail Spanberg, of all people,

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Speaker 3: twelve points. And this is with wins Sears running on

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Speaker 3: that full slate of culture war issues. In fact, at

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Speaker 3: her victory party last night, in her concession speech, Sears

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Speaker 3: mentioned three things like the car tax I think it

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Speaker 3: was girls sports, and not to pull a Rick Perry.

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Speaker 3: But I'm forgetting off the top of my head what

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Speaker 3: the other one was. I think At that point she

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Speaker 3: said oh, it was expanding the economy in that order,

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Speaker 3: and it was she's sort of a clumsy politician, and

662
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Speaker 3: everyone now is like, oh, she just wasn't the right candidate.

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Speaker 3: But they lost in New Jersey with a pretty good

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Speaker 3: candidate too, So I don't know that it was necessarily

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Speaker 3: win some series. A lot of it was political headwinds.

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Speaker 3: But it's amazing that a lot of what felt like

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Speaker 3: the future of politics to many people during twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: and like Capitol PW peak woke, it's clearly not the

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Speaker 3: golden ticket of the future in politics. And when you

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Speaker 3: look over here, this is Alexandro Acasio Cortez telling MSNBC,

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Speaker 3: A lot of people are willing to talk about party

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Speaker 3: unity when it serves them, but not party unity when

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Speaker 3: it serves everybody. We have a future to fight for,

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Speaker 3: and we're either going to do that together or you're

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Speaker 3: going to be left behind. So ran the question I

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Speaker 3: wanted to ask you on that is people reading the

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Speaker 3: future as sort of socialist because zoron one in New

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Speaker 3: York City. But then you also have these big triumphs

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Speaker 3: for like Abigail Spamberger and Mike key Ceryl where you're

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Speaker 3: persuading kind of swing voters in places like Louden. Obviously

681
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Speaker 3: these are blue counties that went red, but you're bringing

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Speaker 3: people out, you're remaking the electorate in a way that

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Speaker 3: it didn't look like in twenty twenty one. And obviously

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Speaker 3: they are persuadable spring voters. Even the fact that people

685
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Speaker 3: went out and voted on those numbers to form this

686
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Speaker 3: kind of electorate means that they got them off their couches.

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Speaker 3: And so there's this bifurcation of these like fantasies of

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Speaker 3: the moderate Democratic establishment in Spamberger and Cheryl and like

689
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Speaker 3: in Alyssa sluckin and also Mom Dannie. So what is

690
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Speaker 3: the lesson that is going to be taken away? But

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Speaker 3: is it going to be Zorn was a fluke? If

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Speaker 3: Sliwa had gotten out of the race, it all would

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Speaker 3: have been fine. We could have won with the worst

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Speaker 3: candidate ever Andrew Cuomo. Or is it going to be

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Speaker 3: you know, this is all everything is new? Like, what's

696
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Speaker 3: what's the lesson?

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Speaker 5: So let me actually play some.

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Speaker 4: Sharell here because I think it's actually important to understand

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Speaker 4: what she really ran on in order to be able

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Speaker 4: to answer that question.

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Speaker 5: So here's bank you, Cheryl, I am fighting for you.

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Speaker 12: Yes, I'm fighting for affordability. I'm fighting to get your

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Speaker 12: cost down. I'm declaring as a date of emergency on

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Speaker 12: day one freezing utility rate hikes. I said last night,

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Speaker 12: I said, you know what, I'm not playing right. I'm

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Speaker 12: not doing a ten year study I'm not writing a

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Speaker 12: strongly worded letter.

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Speaker 3: Abundance being a group.

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Speaker 12: I'm declaring a state of emergency to drive your costs down.

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Speaker 14: And that's just where it starts.

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Speaker 12: Because as I'm looking to the budget, I'm increasing that

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Speaker 12: first time home buyers programs. You can get your foot

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Speaker 12: in the door, try to build your family's generational wealth.

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Speaker 12: I'm taking on those landlords who are colluding to drive

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Speaker 12: up your rental priceis will my opponent do that? No,

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Speaker 12: his biggest donor is one of those guys that's being

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Speaker 12: investigated right now.

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Speaker 3: So this is the fight.

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Speaker 12: And at every single level, I have been willing to

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Speaker 12: take on this fight, and I will fight anyone when

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Speaker 12: it comes to fighting for the people of New Jersey.

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Speaker 3: That's my commitment to you.

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Speaker 4: Fascinating Yes, and so back in September, Crystal and I

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Speaker 4: made fun of Democrats for how poorly spam Berger and

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Speaker 4: Cheryl were doing in the polls, and Cheryl continued doing

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Speaker 4: poorly in the polls up through New Jersey. So we

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Speaker 4: now have like near a tand and all of her

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Speaker 4: like a mob kind of like they're like, aha, you

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Speaker 4: shared this poll from September where they were not doing well,

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Speaker 4: and look now they won by a lot, aren't you

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Speaker 4: guys morons? And to me, it's like, if this is

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Speaker 4: what qualifies as democratic centrism, then the left has won.

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Speaker 4: And I'm glad to like eat whatever crow that you

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Speaker 4: want me to eat and say that, Okay, Yes, if

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Speaker 4: Mikey Cheryl runs by saying she's going to declare a

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Speaker 4: state of emergency to bring prices down in the state.

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Speaker 4: She's going to crack down on landlords who are colluding

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Speaker 4: to raise prices. She's going to increase you know, she's

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Speaker 4: going to help people buy homes, and she's going to

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Speaker 4: you know, across the board, not a long committee, across

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Speaker 4: the board. She's going to immediately make affordability the thing

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Speaker 4: that she's going to do. And she's going to do

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Speaker 4: that by fighting against the greedy landlords and break them up.

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Speaker 4: And she can do it because she's not taking their

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Speaker 4: money and the opponents are.

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Speaker 5: If that.

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Speaker 4: Is what qualifies as democratic centrism, then near a Tandon amazing, wonderful,

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Speaker 4: that's terrific.

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Speaker 3: You got welcome to the party.

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Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, no, she's it's your party. It's your party.

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Speaker 4: Like let them think it's their idea and if they

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Speaker 4: run with it, great. That's the whole point point And

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Speaker 4: Gipaul talked about this on the on the stream last night.

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Speaker 4: But it's important to underscore people like Cheryl and Spamberger

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Speaker 4: actually were quite good in twenty twenty two when it

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Speaker 4: came to the child child tax credit and actually a

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Speaker 4: lot of the kind of climate money, and they wanted

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Speaker 4: to show voters that they were doing something that they

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Speaker 4: were making their lives materially better. In particularly, they fought

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Speaker 4: very hard around the care economy stuff, and they lost

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Speaker 4: that fight. And democrats are much in the country is

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Speaker 4: much worse off because they lost that in the over

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Speaker 4: in the Senate. But these are a different kind of

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Speaker 4: centrist Democrats in the sense that they're actually trying to

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Speaker 4: make regular people's lives a little bit more affordable and better.

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Speaker 4: So it's not as if they just picked this stuff up.

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Speaker 4: They were in twenty twenty two. The new Democrats, which

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Speaker 4: were are the like offshoot of the you know, business

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Speaker 4: wing of the Democratic Party, you know, really really rallied

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Speaker 4: around this the child tax credit in particular. And if

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Speaker 4: that is what qualifies as the right wing of the

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Speaker 4: Democratic Party, then that's you know that there's a total

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Speaker 4: victory for the populace side. And and let and we'll

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Speaker 4: be gracious about it, good like wonderful congratulations to Mikey Cheryl.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe you'll be gracious about it. Ryan, Well, you

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Speaker 3: and Crystal will be gracious and be great. So we're

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Speaker 3: again talking about double digit wins here for Spamberger and Cheryl.

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Speaker 3: So fifty seven point two percent for Spamberger, forty two

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Speaker 3: point six percent for Sears with ninety five percent of

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Speaker 3: the vote. In here on Wednesday morning, Jay Jones, Jay Jones,

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Speaker 3: who Republicans dot they actually might beat uh even he

782
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Speaker 3: won by what it's looking like six points, so fifty

783
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Speaker 3: two point eight percent more than half the vote, and

784
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Speaker 3: forty six point eight percent for Miaras. We are looking

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Speaker 3: at Mikey Cheryl at fifty six point two percent with

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Speaker 3: ninety five percent of the votes, and to Chitarelli at

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Speaker 3: forty three point two to the votes. And of course

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Speaker 3: Zara Mamdani right now with ninety one percent of the

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Speaker 3: votes in, is that over fifty percent of the vote.

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Speaker 3: He's at fifty point four percent, and Andrew Cuomo is

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Speaker 3: at forty one point six percent. Incredible stuff, ran.

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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, Yeah, so big night for Democrats. I don't

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Speaker 4: know what kind of breaks it puts on Trump. I

794
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Speaker 4: don't know how connected he feels to the electorate and

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Speaker 4: the polls at this point.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't.

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Speaker 4: He seems to have the least amount of responsiveness of

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Speaker 4: any president ever, including his first term, of kind of

799
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Speaker 4: reaction to the public will. But this is a pretty

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Speaker 4: big expression of that will. So I guess we'll see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not entirely different from what happened in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 3: or eighteen. And I was talking to a consultant lesson

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Speaker 3: a JUPI consultant less then he was looking back on

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Speaker 3: those races and we were reflecting on how heavily they

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Speaker 3: were influenced by Russia collusion narratives. But you'll remember Ian

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Speaker 3: healthcare was also a huge fixture in those elections, and

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Speaker 3: you know Virginia obviously, the conversation about federal workers and

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Speaker 3: Doge that's front of mine for people, so probably contributes

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Speaker 3: to the easy win even for somebody like Jay Jones

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Speaker 3: in that state. But trump Ism, you know, if you're

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Speaker 3: one of the professional Republicans here in Washington that doesn't

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Speaker 3: believe Donald Trump should run for a third term, as

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Speaker 3: even he seems to be conceding he won't at this point,

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Speaker 3: then right now you're looking really seriously at how jd

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Speaker 3: Vance is analyzing these re election these election results, and

816
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Speaker 3: you're realizing that you've got about three years left to

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Speaker 3: kind of coast on MAGA, which has never worked in

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Speaker 3: down ballot races unless Donald Trump, as he put it

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Speaker 3: untrsocial correctly, is at the top of the ballot. So

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Speaker 3: that kind of artificial sugar high is coming to an

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Speaker 3: end for Republicans, and they need to figure out when

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Speaker 3: some series was seen as somebody in fact that could

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Speaker 3: be Glenn Youngkin was seen as somebody who could be

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Speaker 3: Trump without trump Ism, without Trump, that could be the

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Speaker 3: kind of early model for the future with persuadable voters

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Speaker 3: and can keep the MAGA coalition of working class, multiracial

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Speaker 3: working class coalition coming to the polls. You know, these

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Speaker 3: elections are low propensity. But that's you have to win

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Speaker 3: a whole lot of low propensity elections to have national power.

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Speaker 3: So that's it's a huge question obviously weighing on the

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Speaker 3: minds of many many Republicans right now.

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Speaker 5: Yep, yes, indeed, all right.

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Speaker 3: Well we have so many reactions. There's nobody that you

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Speaker 3: would want in your corner apart from Ryan Gram or

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Speaker 3: other than Ryan Gram and Griffin to grab the most

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Speaker 3: high profile people who are just milling about a campaign party,

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Speaker 3: because you guys got it's like Stefan. That's what I

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Speaker 3: was thinking about last night. It was like a Stefan sketch,

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Speaker 3: Like we have everyone Lena Khan, a star of sex

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Speaker 3: in the city, congresswomen promi a giapa, and that's what

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Speaker 4: And Khan alluded last night to a role she was

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Speaker 4: going to play in the mom dying administration. She just

844
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Speaker 4: said to press conference that she's going to join the

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Speaker 4: transition team. So that's that's going to be very good,

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Speaker 4: because you know, Lena Khan is one of the most

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Speaker 4: is one of the most effective implementers of the kind

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Speaker 4: of populist, anti trust vision democratic It's one thing to

849
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Speaker 4: you know, write a paper about it or talk about

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Speaker 4: it on a podcast. It's a whole other thing to

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Speaker 4: actually go to court and go to and go to

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Speaker 4: the lawmakers and put something into actual practice that combats

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Speaker 4: that corporate power. And so you know she has been

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Speaker 4: doing that and thinking about it and getting it actually done.

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Speaker 4: And so if she's you know, involved in the Mam

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Speaker 4: Donnie transition, that's I think, very good news.

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Speaker 3: Fascinating and so make sure that you stay tuned to

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Speaker 3: hear exactly how everyone was reacting. We're about to roll

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Speaker 3: this now. It is like a Stefan sketch. All of

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Speaker 3: the people that you would ever imagine and then some

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Speaker 3: of the people you would never imagine. Here that bak

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Speaker 3: you boys, Mom Donny livestream incredible Ryan, and incredible that

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Speaker 3: you you made it home for the birthday breakfast today too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and got him these Philadelphia Eagles crocs in New

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Speaker 4: York that are very cool.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's awesome. Well, Packers Eagles coming up too. So

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Speaker 3: I don't want to ruin his birthday, but he gets

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Speaker 3: it going down.

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Speaker 5: We'll see, all right, watch it again, all right, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, now, enjoy the reactions live in the ground from

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Speaker 3: the Mandanni. Mom Donnie victory party.

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Speaker 15: Why don't we step back and show us where we

873
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Speaker 15: are for just a second for the stream. Here we

874
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Speaker 15: are in the beautiful Brooklyn Paramount Theater. It's it's beginning

875
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 15: to fill up with people here. We're gonna have a

876
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 15: pretty good angle on the speech and the crowd.

877
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Speaker 6: And we got Abby Phillips behind us right those spot.

878
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 6: Ryan has gained lots of Do you want to say,

879
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 6: what's up?

880
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Speaker 3: Thanks for going on.

881
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 9: We need some happiness, we need some joy. We're gonna

882
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 9: get it.

883
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Speaker 6: Yeah, what did you say?

884
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Speaker 16: I mean a lot of people who were very happy

885
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Speaker 16: to have voted.

886
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Speaker 10: We were.

887
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 9: I was canvassing with Jews for Orham and uh, you know,

888
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 9: we actually went back to the Grand Army Plaza where

889
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 9: we had had this big action a year and a

890
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 9: half ago outside Chuck Schumer's house to stay her in

891
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 9: the streets. And I had given a speech then and

892
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 9: I had said to Chuck that the kids are with

893
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Speaker 9: us now.

894
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 16: And what did he say? He's just elected.

895
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Speaker 6: Because are with you? I think what did Chuck say

896
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 6: to that moment?

897
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 9: And this generational divide that has ruptured over the genocide

898
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 9: is a huge part of why it's possible for our

899
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 9: and to be elected, which you will be.

900
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Speaker 16: I know he hasn't been yet, but yeah.

901
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 9: I mean the other thing that I tried to convey

902
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Speaker 9: in the canvasing I've been doing in the past couple

903
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Speaker 9: days is just like, even though these disgusting ads are

904
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 9: all about fear of Mamdani, it's actually fear of the coalition.

905
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 9: It's actually fear of the possibility what becomes possible when

906
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Speaker 9: people can act across divides.

907
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 16: So that was that was my Like I did that,

908
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 16: you know, yeah?

909
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 17: Did you were regular people coming up to you or like,

910
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 17: were you mostly just going to the doors?

911
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 9: You were like we we were outside of a polling

912
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 9: a polling place, like a voting place, so people were

913
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 9: talking to people as they.

914
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 16: Went in, as they came out. Yeah.

915
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean people who voted for Zoram were very

916
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 9: happy to talk about how they voted for him or

917
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 9: were going to vote for him. People who didn't were like,

918
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 9: fair enough, Yeah, I didn't.

919
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Speaker 16: Get into any arguments. What about you? What did you

920
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 16: see today?

921
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 18: Uh?

922
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 17: I have only been here for a couple of hours,

923
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 17: but everybody everything I talked to was like, oh, yeah,

924
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Speaker 17: I'm vote for that guy, or I voted for that

925
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Speaker 17: person you're like and.

926
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Speaker 6: Like just regular people on the street. Yeah, yeah, I think.

927
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Speaker 6: And they were saying, like, I think he's gonna win,

928
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Speaker 6: like by a line. They were pretty so yeah, am

929
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Speaker 6: I correct?

930
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Speaker 13: In?

931
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Speaker 15: Saint Chuck Schumer said he didn't say who he voted for,

932
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Speaker 15: And who do you think he voted for?

933
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Speaker 16: I think he fucking voted for Clomar?

934
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Speaker 6: I think, no doubt about it.

935
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Speaker 16: Yeah, I think resign. I mean if New York overwhelmingly

936
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Speaker 16: Alex darn.

937
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Speaker 10: What do you think?

938
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Speaker 6: What do you think he did?

939
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 16: He's supposed to represent the city, right.

940
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Speaker 6: What do you think he did that that Bernie didn't do?

941
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Speaker 17: He managed to Yeah, basically, you know, change the electorate

942
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Speaker 17: and bring people out and excite people who hadn't been

943
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Speaker 17: involved in politics before.

944
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Speaker 6: Bernie didn't quite pull that off in twenty twenty. What

945
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Speaker 6: why do you think?

946
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Speaker 17: Is it because it's a concentrated media market and like

947
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 17: he was able to reach more people more directly, Like

948
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Speaker 17: you know, going from state to state in the primary

949
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Speaker 17: caucus system, it's like you go to a state, you

950
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 17: have no idea there's an election going on, and it's

951
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 17: just all of a sudden on a random day in

952
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Speaker 17: August fifth.

953
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 9: Or whatever, the first person to say that he is

954
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 9: part of a of a linear part of the movement,

955
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 9: that you know, what he's doing wouldn't be up been

956
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 9: possible without Bernie. I think that part of what it

957
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 9: means to not be you know, the first to try,

958
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 9: is that there is more of a sense of play,

959
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 9: like more of a sense of like actual like joy,

960
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 9: having fun.

961
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 16: And I think the fact that.

962
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 9: People in New York channeled all of their fear and

963
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 9: rage about Trump into electing Mamdani and doing it in

964
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 9: this spirit of being like not just anti fascists, but

965
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 9: the antithesis of fascism, like in terms of fascists want uniformity,

966
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 9: fascists want this like like intense discipline. And the whole

967
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 9: campaign was about celebrating the cultural and linguistic diversity of

968
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 9: the city. It was this love letter to the city.

969
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 9: It was about like, hey, like, let's not be afraid

970
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 9: of cities. They're actually kind of incredible. They can be better, yes,

971
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 9: but they're amazing. And there's I think in the face

972
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 9: of so much like anti urban rhetoric coming from Trump,

973
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 9: it was really about time for New York to fall

974
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 9: back in love with itself.

975
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 17: It really did come across that Zarren loves New York City,

976
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 17: and it really also looks like Andrew Pomo really dislikes

977
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 17: New York City.

978
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 16: Yeah, and all the billionaires who were threatening.

979
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 6: To be like all right, oh for us or we're

980
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 6: going to leave is not have no commitment.

981
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 16: To this place. And whereas his whole campaign was like

982
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 16: I love this.

983
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 9: City enough that I'd like to be able to afford

984
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 9: it and stay and stay with my family and stay

985
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 9: with my community and friends, like the wholar opposite messages.

986
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 9: So I love that, you know, like fuck like you

987
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 9: know the people who want to blast themselves into outer

988
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 9: space and build their bunkers and just extract from cities

989
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 9: and extract from humans. Like yeah, it was so sharp

990
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 9: that delineation. So yeah, I think it was. It was different.

991
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, but Curtis, he seems to authentically love New York.

992
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 10: We'll give him like.

993
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 16: At your New York character, Yeah for sure.

994
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

995
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 19: Anyway, yeah, former gubernatorial candidate uh s, Cynthia Nixon, welcome

996
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 19: to the drop site and breaking point stream.

997
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 6: Uh So were you out canvassing today?

998
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 18: I was in rehearsal today, but my wife was canvassing

999
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 18: and Washington heights.

1000
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 6: What accounts for this victory, What accounts.

1001
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 18: For this victory is Zorn Mamdani, who is uh, you know,

1002
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 18: a once in a generation leader, and the movement that

1003
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 18: he has built ninety thousand volunteers, but also that he

1004
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 18: is we have finally found a way to show the

1005
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 18: Democratic Party we can actually all offer an alternative to

1006
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 18: MAGA that make us the party of working people again,

1007
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 18: and not just not just saying both for us, we're

1008
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 18: not Donald Trump, but actually both for us, because we're

1009
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 18: offering you concrete things that are going to make your

1010
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 18: lives better.

1011
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 17: One thing that he seemed to do in the immediate

1012
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 17: wake of the primary was consolidate a lot of the

1013
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 17: institutional Democratic support in a way that was almost surprising,

1014
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 17: Like the labor unions and others who Cuomo had kind

1015
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 17: of had a stranglehold on for a very long time,

1016
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 17: he was able to say no, no, I won the primary.

1017
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 6: And what did he.

1018
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 17: Do as far as you understand to be able to

1019
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 17: do that, Because if those institutional forces stay on the

1020
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 17: sidelines and then move over to Cuomo.

1021
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 6: Maybe you have a different race.

1022
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 18: I mean, I wish that the leaders of the Democratic

1023
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 18: Party did did that, you know, but I think in

1024
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 18: terms of the unions and not more institutional support. I

1025
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 18: think they got into a room with Zorn and they

1026
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 18: watch what he was able to do in the primary.

1027
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 16: They watch how he was able to mobilize and.

1028
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 18: Inspire people going from two percent almost no name recognition

1029
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 18: against a multi term dynastic governor. And I think, you know,

1030
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 18: people are skeptical about Zorn, it's hard to be skeptical

1031
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 18: once you get into a.

1032
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 16: Room with him and you talk to him.

1033
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 17: Kathy Hokeel said recently that she heard the people at

1034
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 17: the rally saying tax the rich, but it's going to

1035
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 17: take more than one energetic rally to change her mind.

1036
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 17: What is it going to take to change her mind?

1037
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 17: Because he's going to need her in order to get

1038
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 17: a lot of his agena done.

1039
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 6: But I would assume that she's going to need him

1040
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 6: as well.

1041
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 18: Yes, I think that Soron, you know, needs all of

1042
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 18: us to make his make his platform or reality. But

1043
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 18: I think it's very important to the older generation of

1044
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 18: Democrats to actually see the writing on the wall and

1045
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 18: seeing finally we have a way of offering people something

1046
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,959
Speaker 18: that is going to invigorate the party. And I think

1047
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 18: you ignore the writing on the wall.

1048
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 16: At your peril?

1049
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 17: Did you last thing from Bandon Megans when you were

1050
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 17: watching the campaign? Was there anything where you were like, damn,

1051
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 17: wish I'd have done that.

1052
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 16: No, I mean, you can't. You can't compare me and Son.

1053
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 6: You just.

1054
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah.

1055
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 6: We had another question from another team member.

1056
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 15: Emily asked, do you think audiences respond to Gilded Age

1057
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 15: like they respond to Zorn?

1058
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 6: The parallels between that time and now.

1059
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 18: I mean, I think the the thing about the Guilded Age.

1060
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 18: It's a beautiful show and it shows a lot of

1061
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 18: the glitter of the Gilded Age, and I think we're

1062
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 18: living in another Gilded age, and I think that so

1063
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 18: Ron is laying bare, uh kind of the horrors of

1064
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 18: an era like the Gilded Age that we're living in now,

1065
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 18: where there is so much income inequality and people cannot

1066
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 18: put food on the table or get healthcare.

1067
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 6: Right.

1068
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 17: Well, Cynthia Nixon, thank you so last week okay, I

1069
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 17: remember you you were also at AOC's twenty eighteen primary

1070
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 17: night victory. How do you compare how do you compare

1071
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 17: the that night to this Zorn's primary night to this night.

1072
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 18: I think it feels very the same. I think it's

1073
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 18: it's all in a line. And I think, you know,

1074
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 18: the granddaddy of us all is Bernie Sanders, and we

1075
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 18: are all Bernie Sanders' children. And I think AOC's victory

1076
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 18: was improbable and magical in the same way that Zurans is.

1077
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 14: And I think that we are just going to keep going.

1078
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 6: Thank you so much back y'all.

1079
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm a big jad I'm so I'm

1080
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: so starstruck.

1081
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 14: Guys hard.

1082
00:57:58,240 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 18: Yeah, I.

1083
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 6: Love the guild Age.

1084
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: I self identify as a Miranda. Seeing her on our screen,

1085
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: I was like, holy shit.

1086
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 6: I was like, can I love you, Cynthia.

1087
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 5: I know you can't hear me.

1088
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 6: I love you. Thanks for all the great memories.

1089
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 20: Congress and Japha. Great to have you.

1090
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 11: It's great to be with you.

1091
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 20: It's a good night, Yes it is.

1092
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 19: So.

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Speaker 1: There's a bunch of stuff we wanted to get from you.

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Speaker 1: But first of all, just your reaction to Zoraonmumdanni being

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Speaker 1: the next mayor of New York City overcoming, you know,

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Speaker 1: this sort of cabal of billionaires and Donald Trump backing

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Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo to secure victory and looking like he's probably

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Speaker 1: going to hit that fifty percent Mark too.

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Speaker 21: It certainly does. And it is a great night to

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Speaker 21: watch that race, to watch that campaign and to see

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Speaker 21: the win. He texted me earlier today and I said,

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Speaker 21: you know, you've really transformed politics. Uh, and the coalition

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Speaker 21: that we knew could be built and on the agenda

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Speaker 21: that is really going to deliver for working people. The

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Speaker 21: turnout is spectacular, and I think that the you know,

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Speaker 21: the whole way in which he ran the campaign, the

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Speaker 21: way in which he stood up for his values, the

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Speaker 21: way in which he didn't leave anybody behind, he brought

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Speaker 21: everybody in, the way in which even after the primary,

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Speaker 21: he was continuing to bring in new people despite the

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Speaker 21: absolutely horrific, horrific, islamophobic just I mean, just it's hard

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Speaker 21: to even watch that happening. And it wasn't just from Republicans,

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Speaker 21: it was also from Democrats. And I think that hopefully

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Speaker 21: his win tonight resets the table and brings up all

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Speaker 21: of the ways in which we as a Democratic party

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Speaker 21: have to continue to work and make affordability center, but

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Speaker 21: also make justice for everybody center.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you make of Senator Schumer in particular,

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Speaker 1: refusing to back him, refusing to say whether he'd vote

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Speaker 1: for him when his opponent is endorsed by Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: and had to resign in disgrace. By the way, So,

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Speaker 1: by the way, also lost the Democratic primary by twelve

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Speaker 1: twenteen points. So you know, what is your what is

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Speaker 1: your message to him? What do you make of that

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Speaker 1: decision from him?

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Speaker 21: I just think it's absolutely unacceptable, and I think that,

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Speaker 21: you know, everyone should have come on board quickly, enthusiastically.

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Speaker 21: We've been saying we want a candidate who can you know,

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Speaker 21: we want to as a Democratic party, be able to

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Speaker 21: bring back working class voters, be able to focus on affordability,

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Speaker 21: be able to bring in new people that haven't voted.

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Speaker 21: Zora and Mumdani did all of those things. And I

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Speaker 21: think that you know, we will see the reckoning will

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Speaker 21: will be later for Senator Schumer and others. I think

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Speaker 21: Kathy Oakle did it the right way. I think, you know,

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Speaker 21: it was really important that and she appeared with him

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Speaker 21: several times I saw, despite some pushback to her being there.

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Speaker 21: But I think it is important. We are always told

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Speaker 21: as progressives that we've got to unite around the Democrat nominee.

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Speaker 21: That's what should have happened in this case, as well.

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Speaker 17: And can you talk to us a little bit about

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Speaker 17: the Seattle mayoral race. We understand there's an insurgent candidate

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Speaker 17: out there. We have an East Coast bias here that

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Speaker 17: we that we acknowledge that we work against.

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Speaker 6: Help us out. There's a big race going on where

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Speaker 6: you're from.

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Speaker 21: Yes, there's multiple big races. I mean, I think it's

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Speaker 21: really important that we don't take just zoron Mamdani's win,

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Speaker 21: which is unbelievable exceptional has energized all of us, but

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Speaker 21: that we actually look at what's happening in places across

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Speaker 21: the country. And you know, we had some backsliding in

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Speaker 21: Seattle over the last couple of elections where we got

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Speaker 21: a Republican city attorney in. Unfortunately we split progressive votes

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Speaker 21: and a Republican made it into the city attorney's race,

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Speaker 21: and it has not been a good thing. We got

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Speaker 21: a very conservative Democrat in who served as council president

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Speaker 21: and really pushed a lot of progressives frankly out. The

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Speaker 21: council in seat became much more conservative. And so now

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Speaker 21: what we have tonight is a number of very important races.

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Speaker 21: The mayor's race is going to be very important. Katie

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Speaker 21: Wilson Transit Writers Union founder very you know, has worked

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Speaker 21: on a lot of really important progressive policies and got

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Speaker 21: in late into the race, you know, didn't get in

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Speaker 21: until the spring, and really built something I think inspired

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Speaker 21: by Zorn, but also inspired by the work that she

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Speaker 21: has done as an organizer. And so I think that

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Speaker 21: this is I do think this will be a close,

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Speaker 21: closer race, but well, I think she has a really

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Speaker 21: good shot of winning. And I think on top of that,

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Speaker 21: we've got the city Attorney's race where we have a

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Speaker 21: fantastic candidate that I've endorsed, Erica Evans, is running and

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Speaker 21: I think is gonna win and is going to win big.

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Speaker 11: I hope.

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Speaker 21: We also have the president that I mentioned, the council president,

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Speaker 21: former council president that I mentioned, who's running for reelection.

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Speaker 21: I think she's to get pushed out with a big

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Speaker 21: win from Dion Foster, another really strong progressive who's been organizing,

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Speaker 21: got a lot of our tax the rich, you know,

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Speaker 21: tax fairness reforms on the ballot. Was working as an

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Speaker 21: organizer for years, and we are re electing to a

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Speaker 21: full term a seat that was we just won a

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Speaker 21: year ago as a fill in election. But now to

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Speaker 21: a full term. A wonderful progressive candidate named Alexis Mercedes Rink,

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Speaker 21: who has already done in one short year kind of

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Speaker 21: a remarkable job on really turning the city Council back

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Speaker 21: towards a progressive lane. So all of those races really good.

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Speaker 21: And then on our King County race, this is this

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Speaker 21: may be another close race, but I've endorsed Gurmai Zahilai,

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Speaker 21: who is worked on hunger as an organizer a long

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Speaker 21: time ago, is a lawyer himself, is on the King

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Speaker 21: County Council but running for the first time in sixteen

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Speaker 21: years for the king Executive seat. And Germai is a

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Speaker 21: refugee who came here when he was three years old.

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Speaker 21: He has been a staunch advocate for immigrants and refugees.

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Speaker 21: And all of these people together are going to allow

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Speaker 21: us to stand up to Trump and stand up for

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Speaker 21: progressive policies as Seattle has done for so much of

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Speaker 21: our history.

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Speaker 1: It's been a very good night for Democrats across the board,

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Speaker 1: sort of regardless of ideological leanings. You know, I have

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Speaker 1: more centrist candidates like Abigail Spanberger, Mikey Cheryl doing very

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Speaker 1: well in Virginia, New Jersey securing those races. You know,

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Speaker 1: you had two statewide races in Georgia go overwhelmingly Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices. Just kind of across the board, really,

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Speaker 1: you know, democratic sweep. And you know, I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of this to do with backlash against Trump. But

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what your sense of the reaction from

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Speaker 1: the electorate is and why this was such such a

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Speaker 1: big night and so many big wins for Democrats, you know,

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Speaker 1: in states and different ideological leanings kind of across the board.

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Speaker 21: Well, I think it just shows we don't have to

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Speaker 21: have just one kind of Democratic candidate, right, We can

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Speaker 21: have a number of different kinds to build coalitions for

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Speaker 21: different races in different states, and that we need everybody,

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Speaker 21: and that there are lessons to learn from New York

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Speaker 21: City about how to energize, you know, a very diverse coalition,

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Speaker 21: bring young people back in with an excitement that we

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Speaker 21: haven't seen. But also from Virginia and from New Jersey

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Speaker 21: where both Mike and Abigail who I served with in Congress,

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Speaker 21: and actually if you both remember the build Back Better

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Speaker 21: struggles pretty well, you know, they were both very very

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Speaker 21: essential in pushing for universal childcare here in the House

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Speaker 21: during that whole debate. They were part of the moderate

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Speaker 21: group that we reached out to as progressives and said, hey,

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Speaker 21: let's be in this together, and they stuck with us.

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Speaker 21: In fact, Mikey was on education and labor with me

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Speaker 21: and really pushed back against attempts even within our own

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Speaker 21: party to you know, go for less than universal childcare.

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Speaker 21: And so I think that both of them did, in

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Speaker 21: different ways and to different extents, focus on affordability and

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Speaker 21: on really popular populist policies that raise wages and that

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Speaker 21: you know, elevate working class struggles. And so, yes, it's

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Speaker 21: not you know, they're they're definitely running on a much

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Speaker 21: more in their words, pragmatic vision. But I would say

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Speaker 21: that their policies, actually many of them reflect the focus

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Speaker 21: on affordability that Zoron I think really elevated and made

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Speaker 21: so clear had to be central to any win anywhere

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Speaker 21: in the country.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that is true.

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Speaker 17: There was this unusual, unusual for the Democratic Party shift

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Speaker 17: where in twenty twenty two it was the centrists and

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Speaker 17: the kind of what what would traditionally be called more

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Speaker 17: over the corporate wing of the Democratic Party we're pushing

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Speaker 17: the party say, oh, we need some wins here on affordability,

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Speaker 17: and particularly when it came to the child tax crict,

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Speaker 17: you know, job tax credit and other thing that was unusual,

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Speaker 17: whereas in the you know, previous cycles, it would be

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Speaker 17: the that wing of the party would be pushing for,

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Speaker 17: you know, defast. You know, we got to cut the defastit,

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Speaker 17: we got to cut taxes, and you know that that

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Speaker 17: typical that typloretick there. But back on the Mom Donnie campaign,

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Speaker 17: I'm curious, did you ever talk to Leader Akeem Jefferies,

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Speaker 17: who he adorsed Mom Donnie a day or two ago

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Speaker 17: but kept getting asked and kept pulling out and kept

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Speaker 17: kept Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Did you did?

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Speaker 17: Did did he talk to any of the progressives in

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Speaker 17: the House about what's going on here or what like?

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Speaker 21: He was just what I didn't Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 21: didn't speak to him about it. You know, I know

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Speaker 21: he represents Brooklyn right, and it's one of the areas

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Speaker 21: that Mam Donnie did so incredibly I think I got

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Speaker 21: that right.

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Speaker 10: But you know, one of the.

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Speaker 21: Areas that Mom Donnie did so incredibly well in And

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Speaker 21: I don't know what was going through his mind. I know,

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Speaker 21: other people in New York were talking to him. I

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Speaker 21: was one of those people. But I think that you know,

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Speaker 21: this is this shouldn't be a question, and I think

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Speaker 21: it just goes back to, you know the fact that

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Speaker 21: there are big donors who didn't necessarily want Mamdani complicated

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Speaker 21: politics with some of the New York Democrats. Unfortunately. I

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Speaker 21: think that was really also outrageous to have Democrats saying

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Speaker 21: we don't you know, we don't want we don't want

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Speaker 21: that kind of person in our party.

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Speaker 20: And I'm calling him a jahatist.

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Speaker 21: Yes, I mean, I just think that all of that is,

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Speaker 21: you know, we don't forget it, but we allow the

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Speaker 21: victory of tonight to make our point very clearly that

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Speaker 21: Zorn Mumdani is a remarkable candidate that we all should

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Speaker 21: be celebrating, and that is helping the Democratic Party to

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Speaker 21: rebuild itself.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's quite a contrast between you know what

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Speaker 1: you just said, which is listen that we got to

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Speaker 1: have all kinds of candidates, we all got to work together,

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Speaker 1: and I had a great relationship with Abigail Spanberger versus

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Speaker 1: you know, when you see a Hakeem Jeffries, a Kirsten Gillibrand,

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Speaker 1: a Chuck Schumer, a Dan Goldman, who are saying, actually, no,

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Speaker 1: we don't want we don't want the Zoron mom Donny's

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Speaker 1: of the world. We don't want to We're not going

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Speaker 1: to endorse them, even though the voter's back then we're

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Speaker 1: not going to even say that we're willing to vote

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Speaker 1: for them. We don't want that part of the party

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Speaker 1: at all. So how do you in a sense unify

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Speaker 1: with a group of people who are saying effectively like,

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Speaker 1: we don't want you.

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Speaker 21: Well, I'm glad that Hakim endorsed that leader Jeffries endorsed Zoron.

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Speaker 21: I think that, you know, there were complicated dynamics there,

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Speaker 21: But I want to be clear, like I'm happy to

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Speaker 21: say I don't want to be in the same party

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Speaker 21: as Kirsten cinemaar Joe Mansion.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 21: I do still think that there is a need at

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Speaker 21: some point in our country, in our country's future for

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Speaker 21: multi party democracy. Why not, you know, because I think

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Speaker 21: that at the end of the day, you know, what

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Speaker 21: we have right now is essentially a two party system.

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Speaker 21: And Bernie Sanders, alex Andrea Casio Cortez, or On Mamdani

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Speaker 21: me Greg Caasar, Maxwell Frost. We are all pushing very

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Speaker 21: hard to really build up this part of the Democratic

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Speaker 21: Party and stiffen the spines of others. And I think

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Speaker 21: that the way we've held together, I will give Hakim

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Speaker 21: Jeffreys a lot of credit for holding the House together

1315
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Speaker 21: on this shutdown vote as an example last time and

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Speaker 21: this time and really pushing. We want to encourage that,

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01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 21: and we want to make sure that we continue to

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Speaker 21: show that our policies and our way of working is

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Speaker 21: the right way to work, not one that tries to

1320
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Speaker 21: say the Democratic Party is only good if it represents

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01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 21: moderate conservative establishment Democrats or independence. No, we actually need

1322
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 21: ninety million Democrats that didn't vote in the last election

1323
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Speaker 21: to or ninety million people that didn't vote in the

1324
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Speaker 21: last presidential election to come out and vote. And they're

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Speaker 21: not going to be inspired by just the regular old,

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Speaker 21: same old, same old. They'll be fired by some of

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Speaker 21: the candidates we're seeing right now, and.

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Speaker 17: And and the way I see it, and I'm curious

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Speaker 17: for your take on this, is that a night like

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Speaker 17: this where with Dora on mom Domniy winning so thoroughly

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Speaker 17: is there he's doing a huge favor to the Democratic establishment.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm not telling you anything. You don't know.

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Speaker 17: There there is an enormous amount of rage among the

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Speaker 17: Democratic base and among independents at everything, but also at

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Speaker 17: the at the Democratic Party itself and what Mom Donnie

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01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 17: is doing here and what Graham Plattner are doing many

1337
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 17: and others are doing yourself, are they're they're they're finding

1338
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 17: a way to channel that energy and answering the problem

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01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 17: that people have with Democrats, which is that they don't

1340
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 17: stand for anything with here's what we stand for, here's

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01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 17: here's how you can channel this anger and this this

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01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 17: rage into something hopeful and organized in another direction. So

1343
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 17: the the reason I say they're doing them a favor

1344
01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 17: is if they don't do that, what's what's planned from

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01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 17: the Democratic Party? Establishing what like an honest question, like,

1346
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Speaker 17: what are they going to do with all this anger?

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Speaker 21: I really don't know. I mean, I just think that

1348
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Speaker 21: this there is no answer other than to make sure

1349
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Speaker 21: that we are actually bringing people in, listening to them

1350
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Speaker 21: and standing up and fighting for them. And by the way,

1351
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 21: that doesn't mean just holding performative votes where you say, oh,

1352
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Speaker 21: it was a sixty vote threshold, but we voted for it.

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Speaker 21: But we can't get it done. No, it means standing

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Speaker 21: up and fighting for the things that we say we

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Speaker 21: want to deliver and bringing everything we have to that fight.

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Speaker 21: Because you're right, Ryan, those people will go the direction

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Speaker 21: of the ninety million that didn't vote. And one of

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Speaker 21: the most hopeful things tonight for me, whether it's in Virginia,

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Speaker 21: whether it's in Maine, whether it's in Pennsylvania, in New Jersey,

1360
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Speaker 21: or in New York, or hopefully now in California with

1361
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Speaker 21: Prop fifty, with and with right here in Washington State,

1362
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Speaker 21: is that people are engaging again. They are actually believing

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Speaker 21: that their vote matters, and that democracy matters. And the

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Speaker 21: only way we fight authoritarians and dictators and fascists and

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01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 21: all the things that we are fighting right now is

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Speaker 21: if people are engaged, and if they will only engage

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Speaker 21: if they think their vote matters, and if they think

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Speaker 21: that we want to listen to them and that we

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01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 21: want to fight for them, and that we're going to

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Speaker 21: do something different than what we've done before. And so

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Speaker 21: I just I feel, you know, I feel I'm kind

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01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 21: of a hopeful, optimistic person in general, but tonight has

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01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 21: really renewed a lot of my faith that if we

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Speaker 21: just listen, and if we actually fight for people, and

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Speaker 21: if we actually give a proactive, positive proposition vision, not

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01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 21: just an opposition vision of what we're going to stand

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01:13:57,120 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 21: up for, we can bring people back in. And you know,

1378
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 21: and that has to be a respect for all voters,

1379
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 21: all voters, not just not just the suburban you know,

1380
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 21: independent or conservative Democrat or you know, so called moderate Republican,

1381
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 21: but actually our base of people that wants to believe

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01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 21: in us, if we give them something to believe in.

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Speaker 1: Conerson, my last question for you, and I really appreciate

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01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: your time this evening, is you know, if you have

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01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 1: visibility on the shutdown. I saw some news that some

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01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 1: senators may be, you know, moving in the direction of caving.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you have a message for them, Do

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01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: you have a sense of some sort of deal or

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Speaker 1: negotiations that may be coming together.

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Speaker 21: Well, look, I just think that it is really important

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Speaker 21: that we continue to hold the line. We have a

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Speaker 21: president who today tweeted out that he was not going

1393
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 21: to listen to a court order ordering him to release

1394
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 21: snap funds. Now, his press secretary walked it back, but

1395
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 21: he hasn't and we still have right now, Americans who

1396
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 21: are looking at their healthcare premiums and making a choice

1397
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 21: about whether they're going to just get off of healthcare,

1398
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,760
Speaker 21: which many of them will decide to do so that

1399
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Speaker 21: they can pay for their medication or for their food.

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01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 21: We have people right now who are going hungry because

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01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:16,600
Speaker 21: cruelty is the point from this Republican party. And so

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01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 21: the only way you fight a bully is not to cave,

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01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 21: but to actually hold out. And most of the federal

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01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 21: employees that I've talked to, I know this is a

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01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 21: very tough time for people who are hungry, people who

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01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 21: are you know, losing paychecks, who are working without a

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01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 21: paycheck for a load all of those things. I am

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01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 21: still hearing from people. You know, help us get food,

1409
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,720
Speaker 21: get food into the food banks, all of that. But

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01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 21: don't cave, because if you cave the minute we go

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01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,799
Speaker 21: back to work, he could just slash another several hundred

1412
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 21: thousand jobs the way he did before the shutdown ever started,

1413
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 21: two hundred and fifty thousand jobs that were slashed. And

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Speaker 21: so I really do think that what we need to

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01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 21: do is make Republicans come to the table to help

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01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 21: us save healthcare, or to you know, agree to our

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01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 21: demand to save healthcare to restore snap and yes, then

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01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 21: we can reopen the government.

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01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 6: Last last week for me, you mentioned Maine.

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Speaker 17: What is your I'm sure you've been watching from afar

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,839
Speaker 17: this uh the fight going on in Maine between Janet

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01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 17: Mills and and Graham Blatner.

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01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 6: How do you?

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01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 3: How do you?

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01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 17: How are you thinking about that that race and what

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01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 17: have what have you heard just from your your colleagues

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Speaker 17: who are kind of following the news there.

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Speaker 21: You know, I haven't been that engaged on the main race.

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01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 21: I would like to get to know Graham Platner. I

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01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 21: just haven't engaged on that. I will tell you that

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01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 21: there are a bunch of candidates across the country that

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Speaker 21: the CPC pack which I co chair with Maxwell Frost

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01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 21: and Greg Kasar, that we are looking at that we're

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01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 21: super excited about. And I think that this is an opportunity.

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01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 21: In some cases, we you know, we will have to

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01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 21: figure out how we defeat the APAC candidate, right, how

1437
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 21: we how we don't split progressive votes so that we

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01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 21: end up with somebody who is not progressive on any

1439
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 21: realm or progressive except for Palestine or whatever it is.

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01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 21: And so I think that these are going to be

1441
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 21: some tough things that we're going to have to go through.

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01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 21: But I also think that we've got some exceptional candidates

1443
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 21: that are stepping up that really have the opportunity to win,

1444
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 21: and we're excited that. I think we'll have Christian Menafie

1445
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 21: is going to win his race in Texas. He's going

1446
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 21: to go to the runoff, I should say, which is great.

1447
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 21: And we have a couple of other races that we're

1448
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 21: watching closely. And I also think that the Prop fifty race,

1449
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 21: is the Prop fifty initiative is just really really important

1450
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 21: because it shows what can happen when you refuse to

1451
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 21: accept what they're telling you is your new reality.

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01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 3: Right.

1453
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think that's a great point.

1454
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 21: Yeah, and now you look and I think Missouri just

1455
01:17:55,640 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 21: dropped their redistricting plan, right, So, and we saw Kansas.

1456
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 20: I think Kansas, at least what I saw was Kansas.

1457
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 21: But yeah, us, you're right, it was it was Kansas.

1458
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 21: My apologies, it was Sharis Davids, that's right. So I

1459
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,480
Speaker 21: think that's really really important.

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Speaker 11: And so.

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01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 21: That's just another thing for us to remember is whatever

1462
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 21: seems like it's the reality today does not have to

1463
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 21: be the reality tomorrow.

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01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 20: Yeah, very true.

1465
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: Well, Congress and thank you to Congressman. Thank you so

1466
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 1: much for your time. We really appreciate it.

1467
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 21: Thanks for having me on. Good to see you guys.

1468
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:31,439
Speaker 20: Yeah, our pleasure of you too.

1469
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 6: Take care for people who are new to this, which

1470
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 6: I doubt there are any.

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Speaker 17: There was the one of the most ridiculous debate moments

1472
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 17: ever where Andrew Pomo says he won't even he won't.

1473
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 6: The debate moment was he won't denounce Hamas or Hassan Piker.

1474
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 6: That was the thing that actually happens.

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01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:59,480
Speaker 22: I will not denounce zoram'm donnie zoram'm donnie will denounce.

1476
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 17: Me under occupied have a right to a sundpiker.

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01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 10: It's true. We were got so mad.

1478
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 20: Hey, how's it going?

1479
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: In fairness, he he condemned your comments, not necessarily you

1480
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:17,519
Speaker 1: as a human being.

1481
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 22: Well, it's a tricky situation because like everything that they're

1482
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 22: saying about me, they get kind of say about him too.

1483
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 22: So it's like, you know, because he's also a thirty

1484
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 22: four year old Muslim socialists, Like, let's be real, the

1485
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 22: reason why they were attacking him is because, like you know,

1486
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 22: it was islamophobia. Yeah, so it was a it was

1487
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 22: a unique predicament. But I I like to see the

1488
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 22: silver lining where like I tanked it for Mahmoud and

1489
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 22: his dad, Like instead of them focusing on his dad

1490
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 22: and his academic work, they had to focus on me instead.

1491
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a there was a lot.

1492
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 17: There was a rich vein they could have tapped with

1493
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,200
Speaker 17: his dad if they would have gone after his dad.

1494
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 17: There's all kinds of stuff there. Yeah, radical, I mean,

1495
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 17: don't don't give them more AFO Jesus over now. I

1496
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 17: can't stop being a journalist, that's right. So how long

1497
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 17: have you been here? Have you been out canvassing or

1498
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 17: what's been your situation?

1499
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 6: Now? I just got in.

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01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 22: I got in for cricket Con. Originally I'm going to

1501
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 22: d C. I think Zorn's about the delivery speech. I suspect,

1502
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 22: Oh no, Belomo's conceited.

1503
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

1504
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,839
Speaker 22: But yeah, I came in for I came in for

1505
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 22: uh cricket Con in d C. But I was like,

1506
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 22: I gotta see this happen in real time, you know,

1507
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 22: So I showed up.

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01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 6: Was this the Was this the first race that you

1509
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 6: were mentioned this much?

1510
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 13: Yes?

1511
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 6: What was it?

1512
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,600
Speaker 22: What was the first? I hope it's the first and

1513
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 22: last I don't like it. I don't like it at all.

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01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 10: I actually hated.

1515
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 22: It as a matter of fact, because look, I got

1516
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 22: a lot of haters. I don't like being the contrary

1517
01:20:58,280 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 22: to what people might think, I don't like being the

1518
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 22: center of attention because I'm just I'm just a megaphone.

1519
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 22: The way I see myself, I try to I try

1520
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 22: to offer a platform to people that I think are

1521
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 22: doing right. And that's what I did. It was zar

1522
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:19,560
Speaker 22: On and it's obvious that there I have some high profile,

1523
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 22: big donors that are not exactly fond of what I

1524
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 22: have to say. And I think a lot of it

1525
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 22: has to do with Israel, if we're being real, I

1526
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 22: think it's mostly to do with Israel.

1527
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 10: As a matter of fact.

1528
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just gonna say, did you see they're

1529
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: trying to like denaturalize or on. They're trying to deport him,

1530
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 1: all the things they threaten you with. They're also trying

1531
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: to threaten to use the fourteenth Amendment to keep him

1532
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 1: from being sworn in. How serious do you take that

1533
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: kind of stuff?

1534
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 22: I mean, you have to, unfortunately, take everything that these

1535
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:56,200
Speaker 22: administration is saying is a joke seriously because what they

1536
01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:01,720
Speaker 22: test out as jokes sometimes do become serious policy provisions.

1537
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 22: But I think that Zorn has the people's backing, so

1538
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 22: it's going to be quite difficult to do that in

1539
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 22: a very high profile manner. It's just it's just another

1540
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 22: battle that we have to fight.

1541
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 10: It is what it is.

1542
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 22: But unfortunately that's what this administration is entertaining. It's very dangerous,

1543
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 22: but we will push back. And you've watched a lot

1544
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 22: of these candidates.

1545
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 17: When when did you notice that he was going to

1546
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,759
Speaker 17: do something different than the traditional kind of progressive populist candidate,

1547
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 17: and like, what did he do right that others missed?

1548
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,679
Speaker 22: I got a lot of friends in the DSA out here,

1549
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 22: I got a lot of journalist friends who hit me

1550
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 22: up and was like, this guy's the real deal, and

1551
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 22: he was at like one percent.

1552
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 10: At that point.

1553
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 22: I was like, I don't know who this guy is,

1554
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 22: but he's handsome, he seems nice. It's a long shot,

1555
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 22: but I'm always gonna be on board. If someone is

1556
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 22: out there putting working class politics first and foremost the

1557
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 22: center of their campaign, I'm always going to be there

1558
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 22: by their side. And I'm really glad I did because

1559
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 22: I mean, look, look what can happen. Right when you

1560
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:13,759
Speaker 22: do center the working class in your in your policy,

1561
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 22: in your politics, it's good politics and it's good policy.

1562
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 6: It is and this is kind of an obvious point,

1563
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:20,800
Speaker 6: but it was.

1564
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 17: It's crazy walking around the city today, right, riding through

1565
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 17: the trains, taking in the massive size of this city,

1566
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 17: and then knowing this guy is going to be the

1567
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 17: mayor of this that's.

1568
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 22: Why, baby, we're doing why bogi hod, we're doing wolke Sharia,

1569
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 22: the Islamic Caliphate. Well, I guess that's more like a

1570
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 22: sunny thing. I'm just as a Sunni Muslim, I assume

1571
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 22: he's gonna do the calife.

1572
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 6: But I don't know.

1573
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 10: He's at twelve or so.

1574
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 6: Who knows. So yeah, who knows.

1575
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 10: There is a division.

1576
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 22: As Andrew Plomo correctly pointed out, there is big division

1577
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 22: that's right amongst the Muslim massive He says, no, Ron

1578
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 22: is the visive because he is not.

1579
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 10: A real Muslim, because he's a shield.

1580
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:04,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was crazy.

1581
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 22: That was Maybe he's been hanging out with uh, what's

1582
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 22: his face, I'll at Shah or whatever. No, no, no,

1583
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 22: he's been hanging out with fucking the Joelanie.

1584
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 17: Oh yes, yeah, yeah, Jolani is like, yeah, yeah.

1585
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 10: He's got nothing we need to hear.

1586
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,040
Speaker 6: Let's be real, I'll watch it later.

1587
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 22: Yeah, I hope he can suck my entire dick Andrew CMO.

1588
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 22: That's what I have to say to Andrew Cromo, suck

1589
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 22: my dick from the back.

1590
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 11: Bitch.

1591
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 22: You fucking failed because you're a dumb ass loser who

1592
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 22: spent the last three weeks here a fucking stupid ass campaign.

1593
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 10: This Twood streamer.

1594
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 22: He's the mastermind behind nine to eleven. I was fucking

1595
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,759
Speaker 22: ten years old, bitch, fucking stupid ass.

1596
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 6: Motherfucker lost twice. It failed twice, Yeah, failed twice.

1597
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 22: Oh my god, he won and then failed twice running

1598
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 22: against a Muslim socialist candidate.

1599
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 6: You have to hang your head in shame. You can't

1600
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 6: ever run ever again.

1601
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 11: You can't even be the fucking dogcatcher.

1602
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:09,799
Speaker 10: You're done.

1603
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 6: You're done. Think he does next.

1604
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 17: I don't want to say, Uh, he's helping with the

1605
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 17: lawyers on that, right.

1606
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 22: Yeah, I hope he has the same fucking performance that

1607
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 22: he showed here on the attorney. Dumbass loser and all

1608
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 22: the billionaires and millionaires that fucking burned millions of dollars

1609
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 22: on this fucking campaign.

1610
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:42,759
Speaker 10: Oh sucked my dick, Oh my dog. It feels so good.

1611
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 15: Here that the New York Post reported that a million

1612
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,759
Speaker 15: New Yorkers are ready to leave the city.

1613
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 10: Did you see this article?

1614
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 6: Yeah? I did. I hope they're ready to flee.

1615
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 10: We're gonna see the airport.

1616
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 22: Jalivia Yangold the Free Press came up to me, was like,

1617
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 22: that's my article.

1618
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 10: I was like, really today, are you as proud? Yes,

1619
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 10: she is here. You're out of that one as you

1620
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 10: were when you denied the starvation in Gaza.

1621
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 17: Yeah, a million people are gonna leave the city, but

1622
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 17: they couldn't be bothered to.

1623
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 6: Vote for Cuomo.

1624
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1625
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 17: I hope they're gonna pack up their bags. They're gonna

1626
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 17: sell their place, They're gonna leave the city.

1627
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 22: I'll buy it all. I'm the I'm the wealthiest socialist

1628
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 22: in America. I'll buy it all. I'll buy all, and

1629
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 22: I'll give.

1630
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 10: It to the people.

1631
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 6: Wait, Olivia Rengold is here. Isn't this like the least

1632
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 6: safe place for her?

1633
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 22: You know, it's just she's so brave, so brave in

1634
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 22: the lions den of sharia law.

1635
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 10: Incredible, Yeah, woke Sharia.

1636
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 6: Well, if she's watching, she's welcome to come join the stream.

1637
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 6: Of course. Thank you so much for having me drop

1638
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 6: site news.

1639
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 10: Baby, it's the best you guys are.

1640
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:56,600
Speaker 6: The goats appreciate you, baby. All right, So Zorn just

1641
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 6: gave his speech.

1642
01:26:58,439 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 10: Here, we've got Julian here.

1643
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 17: Julian is a speech river. Donnie helped practice one. Uh,

1644
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 17: and we were just talking briefly, right. I noticed some

1645
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,560
Speaker 17: rhythm rhyme meter that was a little bit like statistically

1646
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 17: not the substance, ilistically reminiscent of Obama in Iowa. And

1647
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 17: you were saying, yeah, they're actually you did because they're

1648
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:24,919
Speaker 17: like I colored Obama.

1649
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 6: I'm an old old man, old man, and.

1650
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 23: He the and he made a lot of promises and

1651
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 23: the Republic has made bone for this will be the

1652
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 23: moment that the seed received and this will be the

1653
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 23: moment of the time.

1654
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 6: I noticed, mom.

1655
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 17: Donnie said, we're gonna look back on this, which we've

1656
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 17: done a lot earlier, you know, like they starting in

1657
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 17: two thousand and eight when you just started doing it,

1658
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 17: but you didn't.

1659
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 6: But anyway, so talk talk. Tell us a little bit

1660
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 6: about the speech that he gave to Night and why

1661
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 6: he gave it, Like.

1662
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 24: You First of all, this campaign is one built on

1663
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 24: a change that we haven't really seen.

1664
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 10: The likes of a generation now at the point on

1665
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 10: the standpad are those who grew up in the era

1666
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 10: of Obama, right, so we learned to.

1667
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 24: Speak, how to communicate, but also how to express hope

1668
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 24: through political prison.

1669
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 6: And so overlearn it.

1670
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 17: You've got Democrats like Josha for instance, just found exactly

1671
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 17: like O but it's like, you're not Obama, so it's weird.

1672
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 24: Well, I think one of the takeaways from this campaign,

1673
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 24: the success of this campaign is that if you have

1674
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 24: only the style, that's not enough. You need the style

1675
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 24: and you need to pair the substance and right, it's

1676
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 24: he Hability heratorized.

1677
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 11: That very few can.

1678
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 24: And he's not doing it by trying to imitate the cadence,

1679
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 24: which is like I would say, like a later a

1680
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 24: way of hitting these ice. But he's trying to speak

1681
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 24: in this inspiritual language and simultaneously offer this message of change,

1682
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,600
Speaker 24: this message of hope that is deeply.

1683
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,440
Speaker 10: Rooted terial tangible improvements.

1684
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 24: And I think those two together why we've seen a

1685
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 24: city that has come come alive and really believe in

1686
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 24: the movement.

1687
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I want to explore this idea because.

1688
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 17: The the like the the hope and the passion that

1689
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 17: people had for Obama in two thousand and eight, and

1690
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 17: like the aspiration that people had, like this is this

1691
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 17: is the moment where we're gonna We're gonna turn the tide.

1692
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 17: We're literally going to turn the tide back. And it

1693
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 17: was and it was such a disappointment. But without that,

1694
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 17: but without that hope, yeah you you So he almost

1695
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 17: discredited the idea of hope.

1696
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 6: But mom, Donnie, tonight, hope is alive.

1697
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 17: So like, so, like, how how do you balance that

1698
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 17: without like, because there's so much cynicism if you hear

1699
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 17: a hope, you hear Obama and you're like, oh, yeah,

1700
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 17: but so but you But but if you don't have hope,

1701
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 17: then you can't then there's no point in going door

1702
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,599
Speaker 17: to door knocking three million doors.

1703
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 24: I mean, hope is truly the most thing, and it

1704
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 24: has carried this campaign through moments of immense doubts and

1705
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,120
Speaker 24: moments where everybody who's saying it's not feasible. But I

1706
01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 24: think there's another parallel too, which is that Obama came

1707
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 24: up really you know, not at the start, but by

1708
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 24: the end at the heart of the financial crisis and

1709
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 24: this campaign right now, we are in one of the

1710
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 24: darkest moments in American history, where in what some would

1711
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 24: call a perpetual constitutional crisis, and Obama offered this hope

1712
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 24: that resonated because people were sick of this broken system

1713
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:31,800
Speaker 24: just weighing them down and not offering the solutions to

1714
01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 24: this incredible, just trashy, but failure.

1715
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 10: And I think Zorn is the same.

1716
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 24: Right, we have so much just like clear and obvious

1717
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 24: disappointment in front of us. We have elected leaders who

1718
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:47,480
Speaker 24: are so clearly bought and paid for. We have legislation

1719
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 24: sitting there waiting to be signed that people will not sign,

1720
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,880
Speaker 24: and it's almost like we're speaking different languages. And here

1721
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 24: comes around and he speaks in a way that people

1722
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 24: understand and resonation has clarity and it's straightforward.

1723
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:00,760
Speaker 10: And I think, you know, it's a similar appeal to

1724
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 10: Amma Obama spoke.

1725
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 24: It wasn't flowery, it was just this really truthful, heartfelt

1726
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:07,839
Speaker 24: direct way of resonator.

1727
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 6: And so to you, what are the key the what

1728
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 6: was he trying to get across with that speech?

1729
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 10: That speech?

1730
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:18,560
Speaker 24: I mean, I think fundamentally it is this question of

1731
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 24: what is possible in America and who can make it possible.

1732
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 24: You know, he gave a speech last week at the

1733
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,920
Speaker 24: House of Justice, Reverend Sharton's Center.

1734
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 6: Sure, and.

1735
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 24: It was about the American threat history. Who have shepherd

1736
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 24: in freedom right, so reconstruction and the New Deal. And

1737
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:41,759
Speaker 24: it's not just asking government to do more, it's people

1738
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:43,560
Speaker 24: insisting and wielding.

1739
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 10: Their political power. And I think we've seen that here today.

1740
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 24: Right, Nobody thought this was possible in December, nobody thought

1741
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 24: this was possible in February, but it was truly the

1742
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 24: people who overcame, you know, a shortage of endorsements or

1743
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 24: unions going the other way. And ultimately, these are institutions

1744
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 24: that are designed to respect and to follow what the

1745
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 24: people want. And I think the speech was saying that

1746
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 24: people have brought us to this point. This new age

1747
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,799
Speaker 24: just narrator says that we're ushering in didn't happen by accident.

1748
01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,280
Speaker 24: It happened because millions of New Yorkers, or at least

1749
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 24: over a million New Yorkers manifested it.

1750
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 17: And yeah, because the Obama think remains interesting to me

1751
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:25,040
Speaker 17: because Obama was a you know, accused of being a

1752
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 17: socialist unfortunately he was not sure accused of being born

1753
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 17: in Africa. Sure either way, he wasn't like it's got

1754
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 17: that's a neutral judgment, right, whoever you're.

1755
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 6: Born accused of being a Muslim.

1756
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Speaker 24: Zarn is guilty of everything. That's I think. The other

1757
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 24: part is there's no apology.

1758
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 13: Right.

1759
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:45,520
Speaker 24: So often in our politics today there was a reflexive apology.

1760
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 24: And I never want to compare ourselves to Trump because

1761
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 24: I think there are no analogs. But I do think

1762
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 24: that one thing Trump does well is he never apologizes,

1763
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 24: and so he's never on the defensive. And I think

1764
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 24: that there are many who have sought to attacks on

1765
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 24: for things he is not guilty of, and a lesser

1766
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 24: politician who is less, you know, secure in their beliefs,

1767
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 24: you would have settled, or would have apologized, would have

1768
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 24: bent over. That's not who Zorn is. And I think

1769
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 24: that's the success of this campaign. It's a fearlessness. It's

1770
01:33:11,640 --> 01:33:13,599
Speaker 24: I'm a socialist. I'm not gonna say sorry for being

1771
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 24: a democratic socialist to what I believe. And here let

1772
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 24: me explain to you what I believe, but not from

1773
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 24: a defensive cretch.

1774
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Speaker 6: Right and also uh and also just to just to

1775
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 6: break the fourth wall here, like.

1776
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:32,600
Speaker 17: We're also like Mamdani like and independent media are collectively

1777
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 17: like kind of moving into another area and moving into

1778
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 17: another era where like in general, like the speech writer

1779
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 17: for like Cuomo would not be going on CNN to

1780
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 17: talk about the substance behind it. They what they will

1781
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 17: the speech writer for Cuomo would do is like write

1782
01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 17: speeches for you know, corporations later and then eventually write

1783
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 17: a book ten years later and then and then tell

1784
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 17: you like, yeah, where they got the ideas for the

1785
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 17: speech to the Ethe rather than like just talk just

1786
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 17: just in a transparent and open way. Yeah, just talk

1787
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 17: about you know what what what's trying to be said

1788
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 17: and and why, like what is it about Mom Donnie

1789
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 17: That kind of.

1790
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 6: Like opens up his staff and others to like, well,

1791
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 6: we'll say this is.

1792
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 24: This is my first, my first interview. So but still

1793
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 24: it's like, I mean, I think it really kind of

1794
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 24: goes back to what I was just saying. It's like

1795
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 24: a deep pride, you know, it's a real there's no

1796
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 24: this victory wasn't built atop half truths and concessions, and

1797
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 24: you know, let's hope this doesn't get out. It was

1798
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:46,839
Speaker 24: incredibly making himself incredibly available being interrogated in private and public.

1799
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 15: What do you believe?

1800
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:49,679
Speaker 10: You really believe? It isn't that crazy.

1801
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 24: We've never seen somebody running for this high role actually

1802
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 24: believe that and never flinching. And I think for those

1803
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 24: of us who have been lucky enough to work with him,

1804
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,879
Speaker 24: to learn from him, to be a part of this campaign,

1805
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 24: that has you know, bled over right. We are so

1806
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 24: privileged to like not ever want to be ashamed of

1807
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 24: what we are doing. This is resonating with so many

1808
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 24: New york As, It's resonating with my friends who have

1809
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,960
Speaker 24: never cared about politics before. It's resonating with the city

1810
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 24: that feels await.

1811
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 6: So and one thing you did tonight and out of

1812
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 6: this was this was your idea or or not?

1813
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 17: But like he did a kind of call and response

1814
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 17: with the audience where he'd say, all right, we want

1815
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:31,000
Speaker 17: the buses to be.

1816
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 10: Fast and free.

1817
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,679
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, So that's something he has been doing since

1818
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:38,760
Speaker 24: even before I joined this campaign. And I think one

1819
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 24: of the first times I ever saw him speak, he

1820
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 24: he did that and it was kind of one of

1821
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 24: those moments where you take a step back and you

1822
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:49,000
Speaker 24: realize whoa there is power to this, and it's not

1823
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:51,560
Speaker 24: a power that's necessarily being reported. You know, he was

1824
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,640
Speaker 24: getting maybe one piece in the Times a month at

1825
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 24: that point, but it was a real glass roots backyards

1826
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 24: of bars, people's homes, and everyone knew the words.

1827
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:01,640
Speaker 10: Everybody was shouting it back.

1828
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 24: And I think the other componentive is it's a way

1829
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:07,519
Speaker 24: of including people in the message, and they're they're saying

1830
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 24: the three lines themselves, right.

1831
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 10: He's not imposing it. He's welcoming people with right.

1832
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 17: And he also seemed at least from the stage, to

1833
01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 17: be talking a little bit to the city and to

1834
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 17: in particular the city council or other state leaders who

1835
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 17: are like might be a little skeptical to say.

1836
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:31,640
Speaker 6: Like, no, this is we're very clear, this is what

1837
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 6: we're doing. This we're running on.

1838
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:36,639
Speaker 17: So when as you guys are like coming into election day,

1839
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,519
Speaker 17: did you have a number in mind where you're like,

1840
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 17: all right, we hit this number, then the city council

1841
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 17: has to come along. We hit this number, how the

1842
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:51,719
Speaker 17: whole had like feeling more pressure.

1843
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:55,879
Speaker 10: You know, you have to remember that just as recently

1844
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 10: a February he was pulling at one.

1845
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 24: And and so generously right, as he likes to say,

1846
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 24: I was I was tied with somebody else.

1847
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,479
Speaker 10: I always knew I would beat that guy. So I

1848
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 10: think there was a hope. And I think we're all

1849
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,920
Speaker 10: really delighted to have number fifty percent.

1850
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 24: But no, I mean, I think to have come so

1851
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 24: far and to have this level of support from you know,

1852
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 24: the grassroots all the way up to the highest levels

1853
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:26,400
Speaker 24: of state government is incredible. And it's a testament not

1854
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 24: just to him, not just this campaign, but to people

1855
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 24: raising their voices so loudly that they really can't be

1856
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 24: any When did you.

1857
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 17: Start working on this speech? Like because and what do

1858
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 17: you need to know when you decide what speech to give?

1859
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 17: Because I was I also covered as people watching know

1860
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:45,600
Speaker 17: the prime the primary knight or and tell me about that.

1861
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 17: He kind of ripped up the speech. It's like, Oh,

1862
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,799
Speaker 17: we're not going to spend the next week going over rank.

1863
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 24: Choice voting, actually just gonna I'll say that this was

1864
01:37:55,800 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 24: a much less stressful process than the primary night speech,

1865
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 24: with the whole thing was was rewritten, and I mean

1866
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 24: we had a few drafts, and we had a victory speech,

1867
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 24: but we had mostly worked on it too soon to

1868
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,840
Speaker 24: call on primary night, and so we had to really

1869
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:15,040
Speaker 24: quickly adapt it to a victory speech tonight. This was

1870
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:16,600
Speaker 24: something that I started working on a week and a

1871
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:20,240
Speaker 24: half ago, in between a constant deluge of other speeches.

1872
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 10: And he's been engaging with it for a week a

1873
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 10: few days at least since Saturday.

1874
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 24: And you know, I think the other thing about speech

1875
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 24: writing is he's maybe alluded to earlier, is it's a

1876
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 24: bit of a dying art.

1877
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 10: It's not.

1878
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 24: You know, it used to be in the Kenady years, right,

1879
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,080
Speaker 24: you had rhetoric was like a major in college. Now

1880
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:40,439
Speaker 24: that's I think, largely relegated to like Oxford. That's not

1881
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 24: such an American concept anymore. The long form speech has

1882
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 24: been cannibalized by two minute videos. But as we've seen tonight, right,

1883
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 24: it can still be incredibly powerful and impactful, and there's

1884
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 24: no better way to speak to a huge group of people.

1885
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 24: But for it to work, you have to have a

1886
01:38:56,479 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 24: principle who takes it seriously, right, and he really does.

1887
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:02,719
Speaker 24: He likes to read, he makes huge edits. He confused

1888
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 24: it with his own personal stories, and I think that's

1889
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 24: what makes him successful.

1890
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 6: Did he did he have time to practice it? I

1891
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 6: don't know.

1892
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:13,680
Speaker 10: He and I did not read it.

1893
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 24: I read it out loud several times, as far as

1894
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 24: I know, he didn't read in front of me, but

1895
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:18,840
Speaker 24: I think he does a lot of it on his own.

1896
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 6: It's just because he's also like he's just been twenty

1897
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 6: four to.

1898
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 10: Seven is an absolutely brutal thing.

1899
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:27,960
Speaker 6: Hey, here we go. Are you doing?

1900
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:29,720
Speaker 11: Thank you so much? Thank you?

1901
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 6: No, no, come on, you gotta come on.

1902
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 17: All right, So we were amazing, also joined by Lena Khan,

1903
01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 17: who's trying to agree up that's what.

1904
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 6: We've been talking about.

1905
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 11: Well, truly, what did.

1906
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 6: You think of it?

1907
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:45,719
Speaker 16: It was fantastic, really hit all the right.

1908
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 14: Notes and was very touching.

1909
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,559
Speaker 17: I was just asking him if he if he practiced

1910
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 17: the speech, if he I mean, if if Zorn practice

1911
01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:54,600
Speaker 17: the speech. He said he wasn't sure. I was like,

1912
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 17: do you know if he's did he sleep the last

1913
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,440
Speaker 17: three or four days? Like, what's your understanding?

1914
01:39:59,520 --> 01:39:59,680
Speaker 25: Much?

1915
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 10: I mean, he was in the club, he was everywhere.

1916
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 10: He was up doing that walk, you know, across the bridge.

1917
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 24: It's also a testament to how much we believe in him,

1918
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 24: that this whole campaign team was up to you know,

1919
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 24: like there were probably thirty or forty of us walking

1920
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 24: across the broken Bridge at six am.

1921
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 10: But no, he does not sleep.

1922
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:20,760
Speaker 24: His constitution is I don't know, unbelievable. It's unfathomable. But

1923
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 24: it's really amazing to watch. Are you are you gonna

1924
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 24: help it all?

1925
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 18: Uh?

1926
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:27,560
Speaker 3: I was?

1927
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 1: I was.

1928
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:34,720
Speaker 17: I was thinking, like, let's say the Trump administration, it's like,

1929
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:36,679
Speaker 17: you know what, we're actually not gonna give any money.

1930
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 10: If the mayor could.

1931
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 17: Come back and be like, well, you need to talk

1932
01:40:39,520 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 17: to my lawyer, and the lawyer is Lena Kakhan, I

1933
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 17: would think that that might give them a little bit

1934
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 17: of pause.

1935
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 6: What do you think?

1936
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 16: I think they have a lot of great lawyers. Of

1937
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 16: course I want to help them succeeded.

1938
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 10: However, again, Sam, come on, all right, you're right.

1939
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:55,679
Speaker 6: What happened?

1940
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 25: Uh?

1941
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 11: Zoln Mom, Donnie, I think he's gonna win.

1942
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:07,360
Speaker 6: You're calling it, I'm calling it. We look, Oh yeah,

1943
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 6: there you are.

1944
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 25: It's exciting. The amount of people hours that went into

1945
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 25: this is incredible.

1946
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 6: Three million doors knock.

1947
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 11: It's incredible, one hundred thousand uh volunteers, that is it's

1948
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:29,440
Speaker 11: just incredible.

1949
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 18: Uh.

1950
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 11: To be able to mobilize that type of excitement huge?

1951
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 6: Is he gonna be able to keep it up? Like

1952
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:42,240
Speaker 6: he's what he's saying, that he's going to keep it up.

1953
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 17: That he's gonna like drive like drive it at the

1954
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 17: city council members themselves or whatever like.

1955
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Speaker 6: And I was very.

1956
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Speaker 11: Aggressive acceptance speech.

1957
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Speaker 10: He was not humble.

1958
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:59,640
Speaker 25: He was not humble relatives to who he beat. He

1959
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 25: was humble relative to the people will help him wait,

1960
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:07,320
Speaker 25: And I think that's the strategy. And I think, like,

1961
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 25: listen to big challenge. It's gonna be him going up

1962
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 25: to Albany.

1963
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 11: And leveraging.

1964
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 25: He's both guy today leveraging that hope will have challenge

1965
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 25: her to her left and basically saying.

1966
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Speaker 6: Who's running.

1967
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 11: And he's running to her left and that's a big deal.

1968
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Speaker 6: Come join the stream. Joined now by Simonmmerman, so.

1969
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Speaker 17: So so Simon's Emmerand if you haven't seen the film Israelism,

1970
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 17: then you don't know her life story.

1971
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 6: But we won't, you know, Yeah, I gotta watch it.

1972
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 6: So we saw them one of the numbers on the

1973
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:01,479
Speaker 6: Jewish vote thirty or something.

1974
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Speaker 16: Probably.

1975
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 11: Somewhere around that.

1976
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 26: I mean, I don't want to put out misinformation right now,

1977
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,560
Speaker 26: but I hear we won the Upper West Side, so

1978
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 26: I'm pretty sure the numbers might be higher.

1979
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Speaker 16: Right now.

1980
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 17: These exit exit polls are notoriously unreliable. Going into actual

1981
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:20,560
Speaker 17: neighborhoods is the better way to do it.

1982
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 11: So what what like?

1983
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 10: What did like?

1984
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 6: I've heard a little bit of the same, Like what

1985
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 6: have you heard?

1986
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Speaker 26: I mean going into the election, we heard it was

1987
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,320
Speaker 26: like thirty nine or something like that. So, I mean,

1988
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 26: what I'm seeing right now is like the Washington Post said,

1989
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 26: forty percent of us just think that there has been

1990
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:40,599
Speaker 26: the Genisi in Gaza. Sixty percent say Israel's committed wartimes

1991
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 26: and Gaza. I'm expecting we're going to see somewhere between

1992
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:45,240
Speaker 26: those numbers. The numbers of American Juice supportings are on.

1993
01:43:45,439 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 26: Are the people who see what is happening on the

1994
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 26: ground in Palestine and Israel are against it and also

1995
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 26: apply those values in New York City want to build

1996
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 26: a city that's an affordable, inclusive, diverse and didn't pay

1997
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 26: into all the fearmongering sore, what would it.

1998
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 6: Take from the break fifty percent in four years?

1999
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Speaker 26: Look, honestly, I think there's been a ton of misinformation.

2000
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 26: I have a friend who came to visit a couple

2001
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 26: of weeks ago. She's across the country following the race

2002
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 26: with total enthusiasm.

2003
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 14: She goes to talk to family on the Upper east Side.

2004
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 26: She said she became an expert in Zorn's positions over

2005
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:20,840
Speaker 26: the course of the weekends just because she had to

2006
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:22,280
Speaker 26: fact check over and over again.

2007
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 14: There's so much misinformation.

2008
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 26: As Zoren said in his speech, millions of dollars have

2009
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 26: been spent on staring people and lying to them. And

2010
01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 26: so I think, I really hope that as we have

2011
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:38,560
Speaker 26: a chance to actually govern the city and build a welcoming, inclusive.

2012
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:41,120
Speaker 14: Safe and affordable city, we're going to see those numbers

2013
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 14: go up.

2014
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:43,759
Speaker 26: And I hope more and more people in my community

2015
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 26: will experience what I've experienced, which is a campaign that

2016
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 26: is centering joy.

2017
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 14: Love for the city, love for the people in it.

2018
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 26: And I think it was a winning message for a

2019
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 26: lot more people were than we think it might have been.

2020
01:44:56,240 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 11: I honestly think there's a significant percentage of people who.

2021
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 25: Are under the impression that sharia law is going to

2022
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 25: be opposed in New York City. And I think after

2023
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:12,040
Speaker 25: two or three months, people are gonna realize, like, no, actually,

2024
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 25: all he's doing is trying to get.

2025
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 11: His freet childcare, and a lot of that's gonna melt away.

2026
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 11: I think there Look, there's a built in.

2027
01:45:24,200 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 25: There's gonna be a built in within the context of

2028
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 25: the Jewish community, there's gonna be a built in resistance.

2029
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 25: And I think a lot of that, frankly comes from fundamentalism.

2030
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 25: There are fundamentals communities in this city.

2031
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:46,960
Speaker 11: Who will vote as a very consistent block, and I

2032
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:51,240
Speaker 11: don't know that a portion of them are ever gonna turn.

2033
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,840
Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, New Yorkers are

2034
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 11: gonna judge him.

2035
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:59,560
Speaker 25: Based upon what he does as New Yorkers, and not

2036
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 25: as as Jews or Muslims or Italians or he's the

2037
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:11,640
Speaker 25: oldest or whatever whatever they they their identity is the

2038
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 25: fact that they live in New York and that they

2039
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 25: need certain things to make their lives better. Is going

2040
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 25: to overpower all the misinformation they've been dealt over the

2041
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 25: course of months and millions and millions.

2042
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:26,640
Speaker 18: Of dollars.

2043
01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 6: And is uh is brad Lander gonna run?

2044
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 10: For sure?

2045
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 6: Is that happening? You know we heard earlier today it would.

2046
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 11: I mean, that's the rumor to be an interesting race.

2047
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 11: And I'd like to see.

2048
01:46:44,920 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 25: He's got a lot of good will I think amongst

2049
01:46:47,640 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 25: New Yorkers and you know, I think it's an opportunity

2050
01:46:52,800 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 25: for solidarity to go two ways. And there's there's a

2051
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 25: lot of New York politicians who've gotten very comfortable by

2052
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 25: relying on the machine, and the machine just got broke. Yeah,

2053
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 25: and I think that opens up a lot of possibilities

2054
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:17,799
Speaker 25: for progressive in the city and to some extent across

2055
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 25: the country.

2056
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:21,640
Speaker 6: Eight final thoughts. I think we're going to wrap this

2057
01:47:21,680 --> 01:47:23,040
Speaker 6: stream up what happens.

2058
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 26: I want to say something about Brad Landor, which is

2059
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 26: that of the one of the kind of lies that

2060
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:31,360
Speaker 26: has been propagated about this campaign is that, as you said,

2061
01:47:31,479 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 26: like that they're trying to enforce some kind of ideological conformity,

2062
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:39,240
Speaker 26: ideological military like militancy, and Brad I think is actually

2063
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 26: a refutation of that. Brad is somebody who calls himself

2064
01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:46,639
Speaker 26: a Zionist at a supporter of Israel, and is also

2065
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 26: showing up and articulating a vision of safety and belonging

2066
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,599
Speaker 26: and inclusivity in the city. And you know what, people

2067
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:54,599
Speaker 26: are loving it and are coming out with him. He's

2068
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:57,160
Speaker 26: been embraced by the campaign. He is showing that when

2069
01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 26: you actually help build the coalition, the tent grows and

2070
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 26: I hope we're going to see more and more people

2071
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 26: understand that and joining to help grow this project now

2072
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:07,320
Speaker 26: that we've won and have to actually govern.

2073
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:09,719
Speaker 6: That sounds sounds like, you know he's running.

2074
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:13,520
Speaker 14: No, No, I don't know anything. I'm just celebrating.

2075
01:48:14,439 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 17: It'll be fun. It'll be a lot of fun. Genuinely,

2076
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 17: Dan Goldman really like it was like an inheritance.

2077
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 25: And people have to remember Dan Goldman won because there

2078
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 25: was three people who split about you, Len and you

2079
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:33,560
Speaker 25: and Monte Jones.

2080
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 11: Montre Jones and escapes me now, but there were three

2081
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 11: who split the vout.

2082
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2083
01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:51,640
Speaker 11: So Lander is beloved in huge parts of Brooklyn, and

2084
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 11: he really did gain I think like a lot of

2085
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 11: respect from people.

2086
01:48:57,920 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 25: Him being the.

2087
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:06,800
Speaker 11: High selected Jewish official in the city and campaigning with Mondani,

2088
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 11: I think gave a certain license to people to say

2089
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 11: this is bullshit. Right, So let's see.

2090
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 17: I hope, so Sam Sedter of the Majority Report, I

2091
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 17: will be on the program on Friday, possibly like maybe

2092
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 17: dress this one.

2093
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:32,640
Speaker 6: You never know whether I'm actually going to show up

2094
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 6: or not, or what I'm gonna be wearing, if anything

2095
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:42,839
Speaker 6: at all this I did that like that all right? Anyway,

2096
01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:46,799
Speaker 6: thank you? Everybody, What a night. Crazy you believe you're exciting.

2097
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:49,840
Speaker 6: It's all right, it's awesome. See you later.