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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's me Matt Rodgers, letting you know. Tickets

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Speaker 1: a city near you and now lost Coach drums, look mare,

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Speaker 1: oh I see you and look over there is that culture. Yes,

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Speaker 1: is Lost Culture ding dong Lost Cultures calling and they

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Speaker 1: call every week without fail.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that. Do you know we're up maybe

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Speaker 2: the only podcast left that doesn't do seasons. Oh maybe

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Speaker 2: that's going out at the window too.

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Speaker 1: You know, well we're form breakers. Yes, so the podcast

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Speaker 1: has we're seeing critical acclaim. Now are they giving us

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Speaker 1: an award for breaking ground and podcasting?

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Speaker 2: Bow?

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, us and esther a stair Parrell. I

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Speaker 1: better learn how to say that before I meet her.

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Speaker 2: I'm my god, you know what a fun Colleen costume

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Speaker 2: would have been? What fred as stare Parrel. That's really good, bo,

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Speaker 2: that would have been really fun. Oh my god, you

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Speaker 2: and a stair Parrel. I unfortunately cannot make this ceremony. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but the Signal Awards, the Signal Awards were so honored,

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Speaker 2: so thankful. You get to meet a stair Parol which

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Speaker 2: is going to be huge, and I think you too

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling we're gonna connect. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I know it's a stare Parrel. It just came out

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Speaker 1: like esther perel, which sometimes is gonna happen. When you

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Speaker 1: have a name like that, has anyone ever come up

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Speaker 1: to you and gone like bow when.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had people fully go bowing and I'm like bowing, Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 2: and they know that these are people who know how

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Speaker 2: my name is pronounced. And you know, something goes off

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Speaker 2: in the synapses and they fire a little bit incorrectly.

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Speaker 1: Synapses fire incorrectly at times. That's actually we're at the

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Speaker 1: culture at number six as far incorrectly at times. Wait,

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Speaker 1: do you know what's funny is if you really think

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Speaker 1: about this, bo yes, And notice I say bo and

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Speaker 1: how we often we'll call each other a name that

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Speaker 1: once said to you boo you can. I've never made

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Speaker 2: You ever, Bo b A. I remember there was an

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Speaker 2: era like early on in our friendship where I was

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Speaker 2: calling you Mimi, yes, Bobo and me me we title

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Speaker 2: Bobo and me me, oh, very Mariah of you.

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Speaker 1: It didn't stand on test the time. Why don't you think?

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Speaker 2: I think it's making its grand return today?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So right before we started, Bowen asked

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Speaker 1: me if I was annoyed with him because we could

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Speaker 2: By the way, just her context, We're going to get

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Speaker 2: tactile the next two days on the calendar, and we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about why. We'll talk about why.

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Speaker 1: And we've been so tactile lately, and I want you

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Speaker 1: to know. You said, are you annoyed with me? And

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Speaker 1: I literally really thought about it, and I said seven percent,

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Speaker 2: That we that this was happening, that we could have

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Speaker 1: But you have your ways and seven percent is nothing

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Speaker 2: I just mean, like, no, I'm annoyed it with you

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Speaker 1: I just mean sometimes, like I know you want to

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Speaker 2: What is going on are you? I mean maybe it's

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Speaker 2: just the world and the news. I have been on

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Speaker 2: my report cards for sleep in my mind. Oh my

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Speaker 2: fail fail fail fail fail fail fail worse than usual.

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Speaker 2: Matt Rogers. I when I last night at the Hollowekend,

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Speaker 1: the moments of rest. Do you think it's Halloween looming?

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Speaker 2: I think it's Halloween looming. I think it's many things looming.

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Speaker 1: We probably should. If this is gonna be a lost

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Speaker 2: Election, unforced the election. Maybe that's the title of that.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's Bobo and mem Yeah, because that's

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Speaker 1: Critical Acclaimant awards.

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Speaker 2: It's received critical acclaim in awards. I have seen you earlier.

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Speaker 2: I got tacked to with you earlier this week, and

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Speaker 2: I really, I really appreciate you as a friend and

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Speaker 2: love you an artist. I love you so dearly. Matt Rogers,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, we need to start by talking about

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Speaker 2: the one, the only, Elizabeth Finchy. Finch.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you said that, because I fear

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Speaker 1: I may have forgotten. And this is the really the

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Speaker 1: this is the top news story of the week. Unfortunate

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Speaker 1: the election is on the list. This is the number

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Speaker 1: one new story week. Elizabeth R. Finch Finchy to her

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Yeah, Finchy to her coworkers who put on a

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Speaker 2: concerned for FINCHI you know, these other writers on Grays

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Speaker 1: So Bowen watched the entirety of the documentary on Peacock

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Speaker 1: about Elizabeth our French Gray's anatomy writer slash liar about cancer.

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Speaker 2: Anatomy of Lies.

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Speaker 1: Set the scene, tell us what we can expect to

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Speaker 2: So this is I think one of the first Vanity

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Speaker 2: the the unscripted space. Let's go, baby, let's go. We

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Speaker 2: love the magazine welcome to television.

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Speaker 1: Every time I read that magazine, I'm like, I just

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Speaker 1: wish I could watch this period. And now Vanity Fair

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Speaker 2: On Peacock Our Sister.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I'll get to emotional if I start talking

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Speaker 2: Peacock. Yeah, LCCA winners, Cult winners, basically, I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: just it's such a sprawling, truly web of lies has

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Speaker 2: Who are these people? Spiders?

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Speaker 2: She spawns Elizabeth, She spawns the web, She spins the yarn,

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Speaker 1: She's just like all of you, basically, is what we're saying.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's just like get a little bit granular to

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Speaker 2: she went on to the grad program at USC for screenwriting.

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Speaker 2: And then she would proceed to work on shows such

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Speaker 2: This woman then went on to write for Grey's Anatomy

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Speaker 2: how Friday night lights and people saying state was such

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Speaker 1: Was publicly sick and writing brave stories. Publicly sick and

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Speaker 2: Basically, all of this is a huge lie. There's a

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Speaker 1: And now I say, do we reveal it here? I

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Speaker 1: Anna Paquin. They are dear friends from their time together

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Speaker 1: And mind you, this obviously did not happen, and who

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Speaker 1: Anna Paquin. That really, honestly, we needed that, We needed

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Speaker 2: This is a Dele Diseine level adult Dezine famously the

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Speaker 1: There might have to be a new List moment of culture.

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Speaker 2: They might have to be a new list interesting five hundred.

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Speaker 1: We are getting ever closer. And maybe it's the top

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Speaker 1: five hundred greatest moments in culture again.

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Speaker 2: And are we setting up a cycle that six hundred

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Speaker 1: Narcissists love to see me coming. They love to see

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Speaker 2: That's so true of both of us. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: the Narises love us, or we love the Narses. I

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Speaker 1: Thank you. And I want everyone to hear me say

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Speaker 1: out into existence now. Leady Gaga, it's time for you

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Speaker 1: experienced with Kelly and Mariah Gaga and Selene on Lost Coach.

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Speaker 2: No, don't, girl, don't you need to be strong. We

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Speaker 1: But Selene and Gaga on the podcast, that's what we want.

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Speaker 2: Look, consider this the first flare out into the world.

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Speaker 1: Send Selene a ton of fan mail. Let's do this,

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just I'm still just overwhelmed thinking about the

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine, I mean, I actually think those would

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Speaker 2: Let's announce our series, shall we? Well?

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Speaker 1: And by the way, a film I've seen a Wicked

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're gonna finish up for sure. We might

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Speaker 1: I'll tell them what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Matt is wiping the corners of his Let me get.

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Speaker 1: Out together after that episode three in a row, babes,

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Speaker 2: November is for bricked. We're gonna save any wicked talk

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Speaker 1: Oh are we because I'm popping off and you embargoed?

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Speaker 1: influencer right now when I say, you guys, bargain to

436
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: fucking love this movie. It is so so good it

437
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: is and this is just based this is how I

438
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: feel it is so much better than it needed to be.

439
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: Like there are moments that just bring all of that

440
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,159
Speaker 1: emotion from the very first time you saw it on

441
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: Broadway or heard the songs.

442
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: Yes, it feels new again.

443
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: Their performances are so good, like Arianna. Honestly, Ariana's physical comedy,

444
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,719
Speaker 1: her genuine acting, her emotion is just so real, and

445
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: she's in it with Cynthia. Their chemistry is unbelievablelable. Defying

446
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: gravity is a moment and three quarters.

447
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: A moment in movie history. To me, they did it.

448
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: They found a way to make it be as cinematic

449
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 1: and as new and as fresh as it probably did

450
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: the first time. And it's nostalgic. It honors the moment,

451
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you you feel like

452
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: when you're watching this movie, like, oh, this must have

453
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: been what it felt like to discover something when it

454
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 1: happened on Broadway. They did it. They honored Wizard of Oz.

455
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: They really just it looks incredible. You are right. It

456
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: is way more practical than we're going to realize, and

457
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: the movie's going to make you feel all the things.

458
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: It's just a great Hollywood movie.

459
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: I'm so happy you think this and that you saw it.

460
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 2: It was very important that matt'sap before we had all

461
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: our guests come on for me what I love And

462
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 2: we're going to say this again and again for the

463
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: next month, like to our guests, Yeah, get into it.

464
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: All the emotional beats hit and everything hits like you know, musically,

465
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: it hits, of course, and visually and it is a

466
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: pure Capital S spectacle. But most importantly and probably most challengingly,

467
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: these emotional beats hit like on a character development level,

468
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: and that is kind of what is girding down the

469
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: reason why this is two films, Like.

470
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Speaker 1: Oh, people are going to feel so silly for wanting

471
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 1: it to have been one.

472
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Speaker 2: Well, the complaint for the Broadway show has always been

473
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Speaker 2: that it's dense. There's so much happening so quickly, Like

474
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 2: you know, there are obvious character arcs that are amazing,

475
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: and that's why people love the show so much, but

476
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: like you really got to let it breathe and just

477
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: let it have some latitude. And I think that the

478
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: movie gives it all of that and more, and I

479
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 2: mean every number. God, there's so many moments, Like there's

480
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: even songs that you might like kind of you know,

481
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: like not politely at like over the last twenty years

482
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: since this since the show has been out, that like

483
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 2: are given new life. And I'm gonna say, like I'm

484
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 2: not that girl. Nothing wrong with the Broadway version or

485
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: the stage version or whatever, but like something about seeing

486
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: it in film. Something about the way that Cynthia performs it, Yes,

487
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: incredible and obviously Arianna Grande, Yeah, that girl's talented. Who knew?

488
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so funny. I'm watching it and I'm

489
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, by the way, just to speak on it,

490
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm not that girl. It's because it's like it's an

491
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: intimate thing that she's confessing and when you can be

492
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: like really personal with her, and like John M. Chew,

493
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: the man that you are, like he really knows how

494
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: to do this, and you have to stick to your

495
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 1: guns on those big decisions because it was the right one.

496
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: Defind gravity literally brings a curtain down, you know what

497
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, you wouldn't be able to just move

498
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: on to another scene if to find gravity happens in

499
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 1: the railway version honestly without defying gravity, suffering and everything

500
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: that happens after its suffering.

501
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so why wouldn't you?

502
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: Why are we doing this if not to blow it

503
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: out to its absolute potential? Also, go ahead and Wikipedia

504
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: whatever and read you know, Act one and Act two

505
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: of Wicked. Those are two stories. Those are those are

506
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: two arcs in and of themselves. Like you're actually seeing

507
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: the characters after a long passage of time in like

508
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: Act two of Wicked. Yes, all this to say it

509
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: just trust me. It is going to give you full

510
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: ass movie like with its own arcs that could end

511
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: right there and would be a story, you know what

512
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Like this is its own thing.

513
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: They thank you for putting out the time jump between

514
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 2: the two acts.

515
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: When there's a time jump, you honor that member Desperate

516
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: Housewives as time jump one of the greatest of all time.

517
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 2: The haircuts were all askew. Gabby was in sweats, okay,

518
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: Daddy was in sweats looking unkempt because Eva Longoria can

519
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 2: do that. Oh my god, let's talk about this. I

520
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: love this, like sudden news that Eva Longoria saves John

521
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: Wick basically with six million dollars.

522
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: Oh, this was a really good thing to hear.

523
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 2: She has always been the hero of our culture.

524
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: I believe that Eva is important beyond just oh my god,

525
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: Dabby Sills, anyone thing like Eva is. We need Eva

526
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: on the pod.

527
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 2: That hello, can I say fantastic SNL host? Oh Pete

528
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: Desperate Housewives. She she was so fucking big and she's

529
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: still it. But like she was the biggest fucking deal

530
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 2: they were like, we gotta get Eva on her deep.

531
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: House dish is forever forever. Monday had a bad fish summons,

532
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: but Monday night I was at the club. Tuesday had

533
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 1: a bad fish that much. But Tuesday night I was

534
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 1: at the club. Wednesday another bad fish that much. But

535
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: Wednesday night I was at the club. And then she

536
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 1: sits with Keenan and he's just he just says what happened.

537
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: He's like, so you had a bad fish sandwich every

538
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: night and you were still at the club. She's like, yep,

539
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: and that's.

540
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: Basically the sketch that's and that is a I believe

541
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: executed comedic idea. James Anderson, you are the John m

542
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: chu of sketch writing, of sketch comedy and that you

543
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: get it. Wait, Eva Longoria like, we would love to

544
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: work with you.

545
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: We would love to collaborate with you literally in any way.

546
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: And I'm serious, I'm pointing at you, and you know

547
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about.

548
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: I know I know what you're talking about. We would

549
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: love to work with you.

550
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: I think Eva is third co host. Why didn't we

551
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: find out like if Eva were to come in and

552
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: like sort of take lost coach, that would actually be

553
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: exactly the narrative.

554
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: I have no doubt. I have no doubt that Eva

555
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: Longrey could do our jobs better than both of us combined.

556
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: Oh anything, anything?

557
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Eva, we love you, We love Eva.

558
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: The second I saw Eva on screen, I said, tell

559
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: me everything when she would run up and say hey.

560
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: On Disperate Housewives, Collos slay the first season of Desperate Housewives.

561
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: Watch it again, Rex cries when he ejaculates.

562
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Can I say? The only thing that

563
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: doesn't work for me about the pilot of Desperate Housewives

564
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: I did just watch.

565
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: It again recently is the Mary Alice stuff. No.

566
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: I love the Mary Alice stuff. I think all that

567
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: stuff's amazing. Probably the most iconic image of it is

568
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: the only thing for me that I'm like, I don't

569
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: know if I buy this completely, which is Lynette getting

570
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: in the pool in the pool to get her kids

571
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: out of the pool in her heels. Like it's an

572
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: iconic shot. I do like the imaging of it, but

573
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: something about it, I was just like, I don't believe

574
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: she's motivated to get all the way that fucking pool.

575
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: But then again, it was a kooky show.

576
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 2: The twins were being nightmares, though, and it was a

577
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 2: funeral gathering. It was a party after the funeral. Yep, Oh,

578
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: that is a great pilot because like, I love there's

579
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: that one act where it's just the four of them

580
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: bringing in their dishes to the potluck, like what it's

581
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: said about them and oh, it's so genius.

582
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: That was a really fun show.

583
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. I mean so fun that Julio Torres still

584
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: sends us Desperate Housewives memes and like Osteria Lane, content

585
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: like this is this has lasting impact. This has shaped

586
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 2: a lot of our sensibilities.

587
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: Say, I'm trying to think, like, what was my favorite

588
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: ever plot on By the way, it's so funny that

589
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: we were talking about the film of the year Wicked,

590
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: we went off for two seconds about the time jump

591
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: and Desperate Housewives because it also had one, And now

592
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: here we are. This is why Lost Coach is breaking

593
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: ground in podcasts because no one is this fucking dumb

594
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: and gay. No one. I'll fight, I'll throw hands against

595
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: anyone that thinks they're this dumb and gay. You're not

596
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: talking about Gabby in sweats.

597
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: Unless your name is Aaron Shock and you're stumping for

598
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: Trump at his rallies as a team. Actually it's so crazy.

599
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah you're kidding.

600
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: Well, actually I get. I mean, sure, what is he

601
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: It's not like he found community, it's not like he

602
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: has anything to betray. It's like he is a fucking

603
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: piece of shit.

604
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: I was gonna give him gupher like being closeted the

605
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: way he was, but I don't want to. I don't

606
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,959
Speaker 2: want to make anybody feel about being in the closet.

607
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean listen, no, no, no, no, no want has to feel

608
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: bad about being in the closet. Everyone's situation is different.

609
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: He was enacting harmful, noxious, explicitly anti gay and while

610
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: being in the closet, while being in the closet, so

611
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: he should feel like absolute horseshit about that forever. And no,

612
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't have community in this arena, like my god.

613
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: Not us going from despert and that's why lost coach,

614
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna be standing up.

615
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: They're next to Esther Perrell saying yes, period, I hit

616
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: it off with this woman and we both are holding trophies.

617
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: Where should we begin the ri iconography?

618
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: Of course, that's it. Honestly, watch when the Pot Law

619
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: Schooljeres's podcast becomes with Eva Longoria and Estair Parrel.

620
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

621
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: Honestly, Estair is the you and Eva is the me,

622
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: and it works.

623
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: It totally works because they.

624
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: Could talk about Aaron Shock and Desperate Housewives in the

625
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: same breath. And I'm sure Wicked asolutely. I'm sure wicked.

626
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: Wicked is Universal Studios and thank them.

627
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: We love them at Universal Studios. By the way, Epic Universe,

628
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: it's coming, bitch, May.

629
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Speaker 2: What's what's the date?

630
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Speaker 1: May twenty second? We have a date, and I want

631
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: you to look at my wrist. Look at that number

632
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: twenty two.

633
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: It feels like one of those nights twenty two.

634
00:32:53,080 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I saw a bunch of concerts recently. Yes,

635
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: let's go and tell us. I don't think we've been

636
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: on since I saw the Sweat tour, which you were

637
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: supposed to come to now, and that was devastating because

638
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: it was the week you guys were starting up right. Yes, yes,

639
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: you had to get your JD Evans together.

640
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: No, it was not jad Evans, it was just the

641
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: MSG show for Sweat was on a Monday. It was

642
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Speaker 2: the first day back.

643
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: At work, so you got it.

644
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: You have to situate and that was a pack day

645
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: like we had, Will and Harper on the pod in

646
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: the morning, and then I had to go into the

647
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: office and like, it's just a it's just a lot

648
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: coming out. You're catching up with people, you're strategizing for

649
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: the next for shows, and it was an intense run

650
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: of four shows, and I just got overwhelmed and worked up,

651
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: and I was like, you know what, let me get

652
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: my ticket to someone else. And I don't have regrets,

653
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: although I do. I mean, my regret is that I

654
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: did not see the Sweat Tour.

655
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing is. It's like I wish you

656
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: would seen it because it was unbelievable. But I said,

657
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: I said to you the next day, there was no

658
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: way you would have been okay the rest of the

659
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: week because it was a party party. And then we

660
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: actually we it was so fun.

661
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: Of course, we.

662
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: Went out afterwards and went hard and I ended up

663
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: like at someone else else's apartment, you know what I mean,

664
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: like doing the Walk of Shame. Sweat Tour got me

665
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: to do the Walk of Shame. I'm thirty four, you

666
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It doesn't happen as much as

667
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: it used to, like kind of just.

668
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: Kind of more chic though the older you get to.

669
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: At Barrakuda, like cooking up with a guy at Barracuda,

670
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 1: going home with a guy from Barrakuda, Like I'm twenty six.

671
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: I love that I'm back.

672
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, We're so back anyway. The Sweat Tour, first of all,

673
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: just Charlie, you are an icon in the building. Ever,

674
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: the fact bo that this actually is one of the

675
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: proudest moments of me for the whole year of our podcast.

676
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: The fact that we had her on like before Brat

677
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: Summer and we were talking to her about that song

678
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: Girl so Confusing, and we were going back and forth

679
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: her about who it was about, and she went into

680
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: detail for the first time about like how it really

681
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: feels sometimes between the pop girls, and to then a

682
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: couple of weeks later have grow so con and come

683
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: out to then being there at MSG when Lord came out.

684
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: That felt like very much like a full circle moment,

685
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is why, and hear me

686
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: right now. It is not that hard. Brat is the

687
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: album of the Year. Brat is the is the Grammy

688
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: winner for Album of the Year, and we need to

689
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: PUBLICI this. You need to get on this because that

690
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: show solidified her as a true icon, like she already was,

691
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 1: but like I mean in the real sense of the word,

692
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: like this girl is a superstar and let me just say,

693
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: Troy fucking eight really pour it up, just so proud

694
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: to see his gay self being this Madison Square Garden

695
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: level shread like the choreo is together. Their music in

696
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: conversation with each other was so great because you were

697
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: up with Charlie and then like vibing with Troy in

698
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: a way that was like a perfect ride. When they

699
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: came out together, they were electric. They were so happy.

700
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: Fucking Addison Ray came out saying die Pepsi and we

701
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: went completely insane, like look, just crazy stuff, great visuals

702
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: ten ten of course, and they just wrapped it up too.

703
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: So congratuate fucking lations to both of them and everyone

704
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: involved in a Sweat tour. You ate.

705
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: The thing that has been true about Charlie all along since,

706
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: like Number one Angel especially, is that like it's always

707
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 2: been about the people she brings into it. That's why

708
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: like her talking about girls are confusing and being like

709
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: it's weird, Like it's weird with the pop girls. Sometimes

710
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: it's tense, like there's subtextual things and like signals and

711
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: all these things but Charlie has never had an issue

712
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: bringing in the girls like she had like ray on

713
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: Number one Angels, like years before she blew up, she

714
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: had like she had Kim Petres on the track she

715
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: had like she's always cleving, She's always clep and then

716
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 2: really well and it culminates to the remix album for Bratt,

717
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: where it's like, oh my god, these are such incredible

718
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: reinventions of these already I'm iconic songs like I was.

719
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: I don't know why I like didn't pay attention to

720
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: this so I remix with ag cook Love but a

721
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: totally like new flip side take on the original so I,

722
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: which is like sad and pondering and mournful and it

723
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: grieves Sophie, but like this one is just like like

724
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: she literally says like I want to think about the

725
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: good stuff, and it's all these wonderful, beautiful memories that

726
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: she has with Sophie that are like celebrator and you

727
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: could like fucking dance to it in the club, and

728
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, this album is so special, like it is

729
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: a generation era defining album of this very strange time

730
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: that we're in. But like, thank God for this because

731
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: this was the thing that like buoied Us I think spiritually,

732
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: like you know, even with like all of the corners

733
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: and sectors that it's hit in the culture, it's very

734
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: easy for people to roll their eyes and be like,

735
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: oh my God, like brat's everywhere? Like when was when?

736
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: Like this just keeps going and going and going. But

737
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: like it keeps going because it is successfully like sustaining

738
00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 2: this zeitgeist that it's in.

739
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's continually interesting and developing. That's another element

740
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: of it is it's like it feels like there's always

741
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: something more to unfold, you know what I mean?

742
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: Like she absolutely I will say I think that Sympathy

743
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: is a I featuring Ariana is the highlight for me.

744
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: And I think the way that it goes into the

745
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: new I might say something stupid with the nineteen seventy five,

746
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: which is again a total departure.

747
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: Yes, like it's just it's not this doesn't just happen.

748
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: It impacted fashion, politics, the conversation at large, of course music.

749
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: Now you see her breaking into film. It's beyond just

750
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: this album. It's a Charlie thing too, And I think

751
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: that you have to it's just you can't actually talk

752
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: about And that's crazy too, because in a year when

753
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: so many people put out incredible work, you can't talk

754
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: about any album on this level like you can talk

755
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: about Chapelone and Sabrina Carpenter as artists one hundred thousand percent.

756
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: And I think give Song of the Year to Birds

757
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: of a Feather, give Record of the Year to Espresso obviously,

758
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: and best New Artist is chapel Roone, then we can

759
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: really represent what happened this year. But Bratt was the

760
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: album of the.

761
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: Year, and there's more to come from Charlie. I can

762
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: say that.

763
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: What can you say that?

764
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: I can't.

765
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: You detonate bombs in the culture, you detonate bombs.

766
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: She is, She's appearing, That's what I'm gonna say it.

767
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: Bowen, are you allowed to do this?

768
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, all you said was she's appearing. You didn't

769
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: say where she's appearing. I didn't say where.

770
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, gag Okay, so unbelievable. And talk about

771
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: collabs like fucking Charlie and Troy doing that together. I mean,

772
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: that was a moment. I just I will never forget it.

773
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: I saw the Hit Me Hard and Soft tour at

774
00:39:53,200 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden. Billy she's it's she is.

775
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: It a true original. I mean all of the girls

776
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 2: like everyone's original, but like she is, she's form breaking.

777
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: She should be up there on stage with you and

778
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: a Stare Parrell.

779
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: I would love nothing more than to share a stage

780
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: one day with a Stare and Billie Eilish. I don't

781
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: know what we'll do, but I would love to collaborate

782
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: with these ladies. I would love to collaborate with these ladies.

783
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: I think you guys should do a cooking demo on

784
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: a top show.

785
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: I think that would go so well.

786
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 2: Bo that's the stage you belong.

787
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: I think that that would be really good. What I

788
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 1: want to say about like Billy's show is a couple

789
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: of things you don't realize how dexterous and oh yeah,

790
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: emotionally intelligent her voices is like the only way I

791
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: can describe it.

792
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 2: It's she is.

793
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: Such a storyteller and the music is so intimate, and

794
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: the sounds are also so big that for her to

795
00:40:54,600 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: translate is I mean, it's exceptional, and that audience was

796
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: going completely insane for her. The choice, I'll say, the

797
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: layout of the stage so that she can pretty much

798
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: always be two things A close to her fans and

799
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: be able to fucking run around because.

800
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: There is something she loves to run.

801
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Yes, there is something that is like inherently youthful about her,

802
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: like energy and the fact that she can just be

803
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: standing there singing and then in the next breath running

804
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: and it feels like it makes sense to her why. Yeah,

805
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: Like giving her a stage where she can do that

806
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: is genius and it's her genius. And her music is

807
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: absolutely unbelievable in that environment, and whether it's a song

808
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: that's small or big, because of what it's meaning to

809
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: the people there.

810
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: It's so incredible to hear you say this about an

811
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 2: artist who I think her trademark has been incredibly I'll say,

812
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: like internal music, you know what I mean. It's like

813
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: the reason why she is incredibly original that she's kind

814
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: of like reinvented a lot of vocal styles in the

815
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: last several years, it's because it's like it's incredibly inverted.

816
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: It's like it's not like outwardly projected vocals necessarily, you know,

817
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 2: Like even when she quote unquote belt, it's like incredibly controlled.

818
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 2: And even when she like wrote like what was I

819
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 2: made for? She's like, oh, like this demands something completely

820
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: different from like like she she's incredibly aware of like

821
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: how she uses her instrument and for it to be

822
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 2: so successful and so realized in a stadium like that

823
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: is so cool.

824
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: She's it feels crazy to say it about someone this young,

825
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: but she is a living legend in that she will

826
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: go on to do so many things. Because I just

827
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, when they were doing the rollout for hit

828
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 1: Me Hard and Soft, Matt Whitaker was pointing this out actually,

829
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: and I think it was purposeful on her team's part,

830
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: because you saw her Unclebert talking about how she loved

831
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: like Ella Fitzgerald, you know what I mean. You saw

832
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: her doing more adult engaging with the audience in more

833
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: adult ways, almost as to say, like, there's a lot

834
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: of my sleeve musically artistically. I think we're gonna see

835
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: many different Billie Eilishes over the next.

836
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 2: Of course forty years. I'm making a lazy comparison here

837
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: and just saying like, not the pedigree, but just sort

838
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: of like the background and like the the literacy on

839
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: music that she has is very like gag out of me, yes,

840
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

841
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: And I will also say like I have to because

842
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: it's my impulse. I have to what do you think

843
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: of disease?

844
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: I think it's a grower. I really love it.

845
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to hear the whole project around.

846
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: Me too, me too. And I think this is all

847
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 2: the reason she has not given us the video the

848
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: visuals yet is very intentional. I think it will communicate

849
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 2: more about the scope of LG seven And I'm going

850
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: to say something for my I don't think so. It's

851
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 2: not about her or the music, obviously, it's about the discourse.

852
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: My I don't think Zohnnie is also about the discourse.

853
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: Interesting about Daga one of her daughters. Oh interesting.

854
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: Wait, also quickly Addison Ray just to quickly mention Aquamarine

855
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: love stunning, loved the video, tensing the video, Yes, I

856
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 2: love it's.

857
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: Kind of giving Brittany a little bit.

858
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: A little like Blackout era Brittany. Yeah, exactly, that's what

859
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: I mean. Like, that's sort of like that era of Britain.

860
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: She sings give me More in the song. She literally

861
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: sings like the words give me More. I love a

862
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: dirty Parisian music video. She's always given a little Brittany. Yeah,

863
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: Beca says she's always given at We need to talk

864
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: about Becca's producer, Beca's costume.

865
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: Yes. The last thing I'll say is I saw Taylor's

866
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: show in Miami Rain Show, Raine Show, Iconic Epic rain

867
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: Show during reputation, when she was doing the transition from.

868
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: Look what you maan me do and to look what

869
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 2: you made Me do?

870
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: Like she was really Taylor ta y La in that

871
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: moment in the rain. She was having fun and it

872
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: was It was a really fun show to be at.

873
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: I will say this could be an I don't think so, Honey,

874
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: hard Rock Stadium in Miami. You need to figure out

875
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: how to get your guests in and out if you're

876
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: gonna have events like that, better or worse than Met

877
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: Life Oh Bowen, if you can imagine this, it was

878
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: much worse No, because it wasn't being in gridlock. It

879
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: was needing to travel miles before you could be picked

880
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: up by an uber with no transportation to get you there.

881
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: So we had to walk for like in the ring

882
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: miles and then when you finally get to the uber pickup,

883
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: it was gridlocke. It was crazy. I infrastructure wise, Florida,

884
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of you, I really am.

885
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: We hope everyone's doing okay O.

886
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: That felt like a hard left. But like literally though,

887
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: like I'm just like I don't get what happens when

888
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: what if there was an emergency, Yeah, I was saying.

889
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: It was like I was like this is not built

890
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: correctly or like like something's wrong. But anyway, those were

891
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: my concerts.

892
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: If you pivoted to architecture, I would say, sleigh.

893
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: See, And here's the thing is, like I have no

894
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: idea how to fix the whatever problem it is they

895
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: think they have.

896
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: But the people who work there and get paid for

897
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: it for that, no, and they're not doing anything about it.

898
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you were at

899
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: those hard rock shows or you know someone that was

900
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, Like it was like news.

901
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: It was so it was news.

902
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: Also, Oh, Gracie Abrams opened up for Taylor and eras

903
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: crushed and can I say the most beautiful person.

904
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: In the world.

905
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: It's crazy, Like, uh, I think it was. Anne Hathway

906
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: recently was asked like, who should be on the cover

907
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: of Vogue and she said Gracy Abrams. I said, yep,

908
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: that is a face for the cover of Vogue.

909
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 2: Hair body face for you. In the words of Ali.

910
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: All Tea, really all.

911
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: Tea body, tea face, tea.

912
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Voice, tea songs, tea lyrics, T.

913
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: Can I say something stupid? What I might say something stupid?

914
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: I might say something stupid.

915
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 2: Dental ty, She's got a chic set of teeth. That's

916
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: all I'm gonna say.

917
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, if if they could tell me

918
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: you can take the substance and look like Gracie, I'd

919
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: be like, it's worth it to turn into monstro Alyssa

920
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: Sue for the days I could look like Gracie Abrams.

921
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: Oh if I could write I love you I'm sorry,

922
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: I would take the substance and become monster. Lisa Sue.

923
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: I listened to it five times a day. If you

924
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: told me that if I listened to it again, I'd

925
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: become monster. Alicia Sue, I would have to listen to

926
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 1: it again. I'd be like, Oh, I'm s.

927
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 2: Thank god there's a new album about being obsessed with

928
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 2: someone before you even fucking meet them. That's what I need.

929
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: And wait that it worked out and then Crazy Girl.

930
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 2: It worked out. Sure did good for both of them.

931
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: I say, Paul's been looking really good to In the

932
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: lead up to he was wearing this cardigan the other

933
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: night on a British late night show. And isn't it

934
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: something every time he like is addressed as a certain way,

935
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 2: it becomes a story thing.

936
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: So many people doing that Halloween costume of him, like

937
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: standing outside with the groceries after he was at the

938
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: gym in the little hat.

939
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: And it's he is a back of sweet cream. So

940
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: a lot of these gay guys out here taking paperback

941
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: to sweet creat Yeah.

942
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: Wait, I have to tell you the culture that made

943
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: me say culture was for me? Now I have to

944
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: redefine my answer. It's Amelia de Moldenberg. I have become

945
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: my with Chicken Chop Date and the Chicken Chop Date

946
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: with her and Andrew Garfield. I say, it's my Roman empire.

947
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: It's your rooman empire, It's my Roman Empire.

948
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: I I love watching love and that's what it is.

949
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: That's what it is. It's that is. Can I say

950
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: like flea bag level just in terms of two people

951
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: having chemistry and you're witnessing like something going on, You're like, WHOA,

952
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: what is this? Well?

953
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: Did you see someone compared it to fleabag on TikTok? Really? Yeah?

954
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: Someone goes it's like that when he's telling her like

955
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: that he sees like the strings being pulled in her mind,

956
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 1: like he knows like her approach, and she says, stop,

957
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: I knew you would do this. I knew you would

958
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: do this. And he's like, what that someone sees you

959
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: and says and calls it out. Someone on TikTok was like,

960
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: this is like the moment in Fleabag when he calls

961
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: her out for talking to the audience, like, yeah, this

962
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: thing is. She doesn't think other people will notice, and

963
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: he's like noticing it or calling it out. It's like

964
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: it's not doing that moment of like someone seeing you.

965
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm saying it out loud, like it's truly.

966
00:49:59,080 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: Fuck.

967
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: It's lesson in chemistry with Brie Larson.

968
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: Amelia We love you, Amelia Reader.

969
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: Can I say something? I immediately got on the DMS

970
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: well I was like, Hi, I'm a massive fan, Like

971
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: play me already talking like a massive fan, like massive.

972
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: We connected and Amelia, you know you have a seat here, open.

973
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: Invite anytime you want to come on. She she's a

974
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: great vibe. She came to an SNL a few shows ago,

975
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: really and we got to we got to hang after

976
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: the at the after party. She is so so fucking cool.

977
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: I also want to say about her unreal fashion sense,

978
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: like she looks good every time, like ten, like you

979
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: see her at any events. She's dressed, perfect.

980
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: Hair, body, face, tea for sure. I mean the hair

981
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: is always perfect. The makeup of the face, I mean,

982
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 2: her nose, her eyes, just just that perfect face. I

983
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: love Amelia. Sorry, oh my god.

984
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: To say nothing of like how fucking hot he is,

985
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: and that being an element of the fact that, like

986
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: the date between the chicken chop date between them, you're

987
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: just like watching two adorable people be adorable. It's like

988
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: watching puppies. It's like it's like serotonin, you know what

989
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean. Like they should bring that video into like

990
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: places where people need some joy. Bring it into the

991
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: retirement home, bring.

992
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 2: It into the rehabilitations that ever Finchy checked in.

993
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: My Make a Wish. One day, I just want Amelia

994
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: and Andrew to talk to each other in front of me,

995
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: just like, come come to where I am and let

996
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: me curl up in a ball, and I just want

997
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: to watch them talk. Please, guys, please.

998
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 2: You might have to pull a Finchy and lie about something.

999
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: I would I would pull a finchy oh god, what if?

1000
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: What if?

1001
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: Bowen? The twist of this podcast was everyone realized that

1002
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: like one of us was lying and or like you like, yeah,

1003
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: like you're not gay? Well can I've been saying about

1004
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: you for a long time.

1005
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: That's a theory document I've written about this. This is

1006
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: not that uncommon, like don't you know, like friends, like

1007
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: there is like a gay urban legend in our generation

1008
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: now where it's like, oh my god, there's this one

1009
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 2: guy who was married to this doctor and then the

1010
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: doctor would get up and go to work and then

1011
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: like after years of being married, the person finds out

1012
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: that they never were a doctor. They would just drive

1013
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: and go to a parking lot and sit there for

1014
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 2: eight hours and then drive back home. Like the shit

1015
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: like the personality disorders are out are are out there,

1016
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: and they always So what you're saying is there's a chance.

1017
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: So what you're saying is there's a chance, like we

1018
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: could still get that from this podcast.

1019
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, there's finches everywhere, and you never know when

1020
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: the Finchy bomb is gonna blow up.

1021
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: The Finchy bomb, Like, honestly, you know what's crazy though,

1022
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: it's like am I gonna go here? Yes? Or why not. Sometimes,

1023
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: like you get to know people in the industry where

1024
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: sometimes people are just that weird, you know what I mean.

1025
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: Like sometimes you're like you could you could have been

1026
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: in the Gray's Anatomy writer's room, and like she's like

1027
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: an idiosyncratic, like weird person. But like a lot of

1028
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: people are, you know what I mean, everyone as coworkers

1029
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: that you're like, Okay, that person, what the fuck? Like

1030
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 1: wigs me out a little bit. You just never think

1031
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: they're going to be pathological, a harbinger of doom.

1032
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, total harber too.

1033
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: Did I use that correctly? Yeah?

1034
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I just I.

1035
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: Just yay, yay.

1036
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm talking about producer Becka's costume.

1037
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: Oh my God, which will actually dovetail nicely into my

1038
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Okay. Producer Beca's costume was

1039
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: one of the best ones I saw on all of

1040
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: the Internet, which we all get on to see people's costumes.

1041
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: So this was a place where you could see them

1042
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: all and becha stood out. She was love ball Chapel.

1043
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: Roon Statute of Liberty in the Statue.

1044
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: Of Liberty in the Green with the blunt everything, and

1045
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: it was production value.

1046
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: It was accuracy. It was energy match. Get on, get on,

1047
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: you have to give a speech and give remarks.

1048
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how did you feel in the costume?

1049
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: When did you decide to do it? How did it

1050
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: come together? And more so, about a week or so ago.

1051
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 3: I decided to do it because I had been Hollween's

1052
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: are my favorite holidays. I just love to glance progress

1053
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: this and my boyfriend and I were trying to decide

1054
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: what we were gonna do with our dogs and decided

1055
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: to make one of them Midwest Princess.

1056
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,760
Speaker 1: Chapel, and I love that album.

1057
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: And so then I was like, okay, we love Ball Chapel,

1058
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 3: and my boyfriend was boiler Room Charlie.

1059
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love it.

1060
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: Chica went viral. Obviously she was brat.

1061
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: Oh felt more like.

1062
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: A celebrity handler in my life, Like people were just

1063
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 3: stopping us taking picture.

1064
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: Of Chica because you looked like her.

1065
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 3: Well that was for earlier. We did the Fort Green

1066
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 3: Dog pumpkin contest.

1067
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: And so I need to go to one of the

1068
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 2: literal brat. Oh my god, And so she's crowd favorite

1069
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: him winn.

1070
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: Who the fuck one?

1071
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: Baby bell cheese.

1072
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty good. It was it was.

1073
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 3: It was really cute because there was a whole reveal

1074
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 3: they like took off the wrapping.

1075
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: It was I'm pretty good with baby bell Cheese winning

1076
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 1: the award, but it.

1077
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 3: Was definitely crowd favorite vibes because we couldn't get out

1078
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: of there, like people were like, you were mobs. We

1079
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 3: ended up on New York Nico.

1080
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 2: Oh, that's the wind, New York. That was the wind.

1081
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: But oh my boyfriend brought it over.

1082
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 2: The per Oh my god.

1083
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 3: But then the Chapol costume, I was like, okay, I

1084
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 3: was at abercanaber if you know, you know in New York.

1085
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 3: I bought the same little statue Liberty fire thing, and

1086
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: of course, but then I like hunted all over yes.

1087
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: Roll.

1088
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 3: But then I hunted around Times Square after a recording

1089
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 3: in the city and was like, okay, I bought like

1090
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 3: the classic New York crown. And then I was like

1091
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 3: zooming on Chapel's charms. I was like, oh, she literally

1092
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: just like bought a bunch of New York charms and

1093
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 3: put them on a necklace.

1094
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: So I did.

1095
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 3: I bought the exact ones, put them, built them, put

1096
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: them on the necklace, and then I watched probably a

1097
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 3: billion YouTube videos on how to do drag makeup.

1098
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I do make up really well. I did incredible,

1099
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: But on brown skin.

1100
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: You know you're like, okay, it's yeah, it's like and

1101
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: you also have to think color theory. Okay, green isn't

1102
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 3: gonna look green on me the same way it looks

1103
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 3: on chapel. So I'm mixing the whites, the blues, the greens.

1104
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: I get it.

1105
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: I do it.

1106
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 3: And my friend has this yearly costume contest Halloween party.

1107
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 3: She's like a curator like event planner, and so it's

1108
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 3: always gorgeous, always fun. So I was like, I'm coming

1109
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 3: to win.

1110
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm coming to win.

1111
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: I want it was a purfect Wow, you did what

1112
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: she could never do. That's true and her mother, yeah, yes,

1113
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: but it was. It was much.

1114
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 3: I wish I had more places to be to be

1115
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 3: out longer with the makeup on, because it did take

1116
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: me like four hours ado right, But and the outfit.

1117
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 3: I really wanted to nail the out but I was like,

1118
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 3: I don't have time. I don't have time to make it.

1119
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: I spent too much time making.

1120
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: I thought it was there.

1121
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 2: It was absolutely.

1122
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 3: I was like, if I get the makeup right, people

1123
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: aren't gonna give a.

1124
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: Fuck that I don't have that skirt.

1125
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1126
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 2: That's that's doing all the work.

1127
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 3: It was costing a lot at this point, I was

1128
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 3: like adding it up and I was like, I can't

1129
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: buy fabric for this.

1130
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: Are you comfortable saying your handle? Yes, it's the bes

1131
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: P E. C. C. S. Ramos R A M O.

1132
00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 1: S follow producer Becca to see her chapel, wrong costume

1133
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: and more.

1134
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: And more, and teaches Brat costume, just Brack costume.

1135
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: New York Nico featured Brat costume. Becca has already cast

1136
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: aside her prior sort of a calling card, which was

1137
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 2: saying the dings and the dongs of the iconic four hundred.

1138
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: It was only a matter of time before you transcended that.

1139
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: And look, it's costume winning, Becca Ramos. Everyone's winning awards.

1140
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: Everyone's winning awards.

1141
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: Everyone's really winning awards. This bodes really well for the

1142
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: future too, because once you start winning, sometimes you just

1143
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: don't stop.

1144
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 3: We haven't stopped, as the show has proved.

1145
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right, thanks, Becca, We love you

1146
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: all right. Well, I think it's type I don't think so, honey.

1147
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Is a segment that we

1148
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: do on this podcast where it's one minute ranting and

1149
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: railing and rocking and rolling against something in culture that's

1150
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: been our gears. And I've got something to say about

1151
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: the discourse. I don't have anything really prepared. I just

1152
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: have emotions.

1153
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: Okay, sometimes that's more than enough.

1154
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it will be.

1155
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Matt Rogers is emotion forward. I don't

1156
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: think so, honey. As time starts now, I.

1157
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: Don't think so, honey. If you have anything negative to

1158
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: say about Chapel going up to that paparazzi and saying

1159
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: that he was disrespectful to her, she walked up to him,

1160
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: she said, you were disrespectful to me. She said, you

1161
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: owe me an apology, and he, I guess didn't give

1162
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: her one. She went back to her spot and post.

1163
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: If you think she was being a brat, just fuck off.

1164
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: She's allowed to do whatever she wants. Also, it's iconic

1165
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: that she did that.

1166
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 2: I'm iconic.

1167
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: Don't you want your pop stars to be a little messy.

1168
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: Don't you want them to be confrontational? Don't you want

1169
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: them to be dynamic and compelling? The way that Chapel

1170
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: roan is why are you shouting at Chapel roan to

1171
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: be like everyone else? I don't think so, honey, shut up,

1172
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: stop mi in Chapel. You don't own Chapel. Chapel is

1173
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: a participant in democracy, Bitch. She is out here saying

1174
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: her opinion, giving everything by what she can in her

1175
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: industry and feeding the economy. Bitch. Leave Chapel alone, and

1176
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: that guy does how her an apology? I don't think so, honey,

1177
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: fucking shut up about chapelone.

1178
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 2: That's one minute. Imagine a world in which you had

1179
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: this self respect that this person does, and if you

1180
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 2: were confronted with if you saw someone who you felt

1181
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,120
Speaker 2: wronged you deeply, what would it feel like to have

1182
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: that courage to walk up to them and be like, Hey,

1183
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: I really didn't like when this thing happened. You owe

1184
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 2: me an apology. That would be incredible. Think of all

1185
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: the other possibilities that would open up in your life.

1186
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: People can't stand that she sticks up for herself and

1187
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: won't apologize for it. People can't stand it. And I

1188
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: get that not everyone likes her. Guess what, that's good.

1189
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: Maybe we shouldn't be just like giving a whole but

1190
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: a Smorgasborg off like vanilla annoying, whatever's that? Like all

1191
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: robotically say the same shit, like I'm happy that there's

1192
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: someone super compelling and outspoken and talented as fuck out there,

1193
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 1: Like stop thinking of her as an influencer. Start thinking

1194
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: of her as a human being, Like, stop thinking about

1195
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: her as something that's just to be like, you know,

1196
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: directed from She's someone to be listened to, but you don't.

1197
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: It's not like she's like wields ultimate power. Leave her alone.

1198
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 2: It's that. And also she is not customer service.

1199
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 1: No, she's not customer service.

1200
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I felt like we were kind

1201
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 2: of just coming out of this era of like everybody

1202
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 2: policing each other's morals.

1203
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, it's worse than it.

1204
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: It never works. Never if you chastise someone like that

1205
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 2: in that way on that scale, it never ever ever

1206
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: yields the outcome that you that you would want in

1207
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 2: that sort of scenario, like leave the fuck alone.

1208
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: I just hate watching all this energy go towards that

1209
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: when we have such a crazy fucking villain out there

1210
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: in the world right now, And I get that the

1211
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 1: reason people are upset with her is because they feel

1212
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: like it's some deterrent towards like, you know, stopping.

1213
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: Trump, civic disengagement or something exactly.

1214
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: And my thing is just like if we can have both,

1215
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: then all we're gonna have our directives from someone that

1216
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: tell us what to do and when to do it.

1217
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: And that's also really bad. I just hate watching us

1218
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: fall apart like this because we're not seeing like the

1219
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: forest for the trees a little bit, like all of

1220
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: this can be true, Like she can be an imperfect,

1221
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: incredibly talented artist who yes, sure has influence, but is

1222
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: not like, didn't ask for that. You're the one demanding

1223
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: authenticity of her. She gives you that, and then you're

1224
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: upset and make it about a million other things. Meanwhile,

1225
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, it's it's it's really frustrating

1226
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: to watch us just fall apart online because there's it's

1227
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: we really, we really are looking right in the face

1228
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: of dictatorship. We're looking at right in its face. This

1229
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: is not perfect, what I'm saying, but like, no, no, no,

1230
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: I just I don't it's holistically frustrating.

1231
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 2: I don't quite know what to say either.

1232
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I hope everyone votes. I hope everyone does the.

1233
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 2: Right thing period. Yeah.

1234
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's all.

1235
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: That's all bowing. Do you have any things one I have.

1236
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 2: I have one that's much less urgent, but is grinding

1237
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: my gears a little bit.

1238
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't need to be urgent. It's just

1239
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: like I just I feel like that the energy like

1240
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: projected at her for this red carpet thing is like

1241
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: about other things. Yeah, And I'm like, just okay, So

1242
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: you don't like her like then then this, then don't

1243
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: listen to her music whatever. She's not like, she's not begging.

1244
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: To be faced, So everybody just get off the internet

1245
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: a little bit more, you know what I mean?

1246
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: One hundreds see do you see this?

1247
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: For some reason, the this kind of went around like

1248
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 2: it was an interview with Stevie Nicks or something where

1249
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: like she talks about how at some award show like

1250
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: Katy Perry like showed her what Twitter was and how

1251
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: like stan Twitter was kind of works ye wild and

1252
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: how it works, and Stevie was like, I don't have

1253
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: the Internet on my phone. And then Katie knows, well,

1254
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: like who are your rivals? Who are your rivals? And

1255
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 2: then Stevie goes, I don't have rivals I have friends.

1256
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: Katie Perry took another one.

1257
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: I mean, at this point, it's like it works retroactively

1258
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: to your like this woman, did she ever get it?

1259
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think she did for a moment.

1260
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: It's certainly in question now in a way that it

1261
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: never was. But like it was just wild to watch

1262
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 1: Katie get another wall up from Stevie Nicks. Then the

1263
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: year's coming to an end and she got walled by

1264
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 1: Stevie Nicks, Like, hey, a Halloween October surprise.

1265
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 2: Oh bitch, why are you showing Stevie Nicks Twitter? Don't

1266
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: do that.

1267
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: Don't ask Stevie Nick, who are your rivals?

1268
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 2: Shut up?

1269
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: You know?

1270
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: Oh sure I can, I say, I'm gonna tell that story.

1271
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: Go ahead.

1272
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 2: So I show up to Thursday. I was given the

1273
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: honor of being in the proms with Ari and Stevie.

1274
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: I show up on Thursday and I have to walk

1275
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: over to the wardrobe department as Stevie is getting off

1276
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: stage from her soundcheck, and I kind of like her.

1277
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: Coterie was kind of like working the way through, and

1278
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: then I like peeled, I like kind of hid behind

1279
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 2: a doorway to like make way for her. And then

1280
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: I hear a voice where she goes, you don't have

1281
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 2: to hide from me, Bowin, and I was like, oh

1282
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,480
Speaker 2: my god. And then she like comes up to me

1283
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 2: and she has these insanely surreal things to say to me.

1284
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: But then the thing that stuck out to me was

1285
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: just because you're asking who her enemies are, who her

1286
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: rivals are, she goes, when you did that thing with

1287
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 2: those spotted lantern flies. I thought that was the funniest

1288
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 2: thing because I hate them. And then she she talked

1289
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 2: about how she her life is just stomping out those

1290
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: lantern flies. They are very vicious, vicious, and they're jumping

1291
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: and they're their their reflexes are getting better. Unfortunately, see,

1292
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 2: this is not what we need. Stevie Nick's rivals are cocaine, Lindsay,

1293
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: Bucky Later.

1294
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: Yep. Is that a real culture? Yes?

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Speaker 2: But Trumber seventy four. Stevie Nick's rivals are cocaine and

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Speaker 2: lantern flies. Okay, I haven't I don't think so, honey.

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Speaker 1: This is bowing Yang's I don't think so, honey. And

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Speaker 1: if you believe it, his time starts now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. Lady Gaga's return to pop

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01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 2: quote unquote, this is Chromatica erasure? What does that make Chromatica.

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Speaker 2: Chromatica is one of the best pop albums of the

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Speaker 2: last decade. I don't understand. I don't think it's necessarily

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01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 2: Gaga's camp. I think Gogan interviews is mentioned like this

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01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 2: return to pop music, but it's like she wasn't away

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Speaker 2: from it that long. Maybe Harlequin counts as like a detour,

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01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 2: but we're even talking about it to six point five.

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01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 2: It's like, we need to make sure that we consider

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01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 2: Gaga a pop artist and that she is one of

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01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 2: our best chameleons. But let's not erase Chromatica. Chromatica is

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Speaker 2: top to bottom spectacular. I'm getting really emotional because that

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01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: is a very important album to us, especially coming in

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Speaker 2: going through the pandemic. I don't like this thing of like, oh,

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01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 2: like this is a return to form, to like Born

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Speaker 2: this Way, Born this Way is an amazing album. Our

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Speaker 2: Pop is an amazing album. Jo Wanne is an amazing album,

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Speaker 2: and Chromatica is a more recent amazing pop album. Don't

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Speaker 2: erase Chromatica.

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Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I have been confused as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Chromatica was your pop We just saw the

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Speaker 1: chromatica ball tour like we just saw it. What do

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Speaker 1: you mean she's returning to pop? Like we just saw

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Speaker 1: her in a stadium. We're doing stupid love? Like, what

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01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: did you think that was class? What did you think

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01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: that was?

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Speaker 2: What did you think that was?

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01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: Was nine one one? Country music? Was it not? Pop? Dance?

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Speaker 2: Was a thousand doves? Chinese?

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01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,439
Speaker 1: It was a Chinese or something? Was it Chinese music?

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Speaker 2: You know Chinese music? Say Chinese?

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Speaker 1: Is your favorite Chinese song? You know my favorite Chinese song?

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Speaker 2: Teresa Tang?

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Speaker 1: Teresa Tang? You do? Can you do your rendition of

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Speaker 1: Teresa Tang's biggest.

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Speaker 2: Hit, knee when well, I no, I can't do it.

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Speaker 1: That was so good. Please keep going.

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Speaker 2: Knee when well? Iodush? What iinyotingsin? You don't die? Your

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01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: gorgeous song? Oh my god, it's called the Moon represents

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Speaker 2: my heart. Everyone listened to it.

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01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: The moon represents my heart. I felt that was true

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01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: watching you perform in that.

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Speaker 2: Moment you put me on the spot. That was that

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01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 2: was vulnerable.

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01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes vulnerability opens the door to true greatness. And I

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01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: think that what you just did is a great example

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01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: of why Lost Culturistas is an award winning podcast and

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01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: why we picked up the Signal Award for Innovation and Podcasts.

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01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: And it's really why I'll be standing up on stage

1348
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: next to a stair parrel holding a trophy, waving and smiling.

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Speaker 2: You and a stare did not share the same space

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Speaker 2: at all.

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01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: Or if she refuses to speak to me, oh my god,

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01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: she's like, she looks at me. We meant, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: highest there, it's so nice to meet you. What a

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01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: great night. She looks at me and she goes, I

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01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: don't like you at all.

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01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,759
Speaker 2: I don't like you at all, said drops the drops

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01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 2: the Belgian French accent. I don't like you.

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01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't like you at all. You still see you

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01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 1: out there doing your thing. I don't like you at all.

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Speaker 2: I'm ashamed to be sharing this award with you. You

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01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 2: know what, I think she would have a lot. I

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01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 2: think if you guys really had a moment and got

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01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: into it, I would listen to the fuck out of

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01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 2: her talking about specific people with you. That's all, specific people,

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01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 2: A specific person, a specific person. Anyway, the jump scares

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01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 2: keep a coming. It was spooky Halloween town vibes when

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01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: we were traveling recently.

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01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: That's all, well, uh, Halloween town. Oh my god, you

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Speaker 1: know what I almost did my I don't think so,

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Speaker 1: honey on and I thought you would have appreciated this,

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Speaker 1: but I ultimately I didn't think I could speak to

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Speaker 1: it enough for a minute. It's just something I don't like. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the Halloween font. And you know what I'm talking about. Wow,

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01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: that like spooky, scary, drippy font, like that Monstersey font.

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01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 2: Like the Goosebumps logo.

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01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: Yes, the Halloween font. Anyhow, I love the Halloween font.

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: What It's so fun?

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01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 2: It's different.

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Speaker 1: You used to be so chic, girl. You have lost

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01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: it all. I don't know what happened to you. You

1382
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: used to be so fucking chic and such a legend.

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01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: You've fallen no longer. Now you're a Halloween font lover.

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01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 2: I love Halloween.

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01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: I'm with Becca, you know what.

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01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 2: Halloween always stakes up on me in so many ways,

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01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,679
Speaker 2: but especially this year especially, I'm like, oh, I love

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01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 2: this time of the year. And you know what, the

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Speaker 2: only reason I haven't been able to get into Halloween

1390
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 2: as much in the last five years is because of work.

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01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: And I am excited for a day soon and then

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01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 2: near future in the next few years. One short day,

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01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: I really stretch out my legs and limbs in October

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01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 2: and I'll fall, really because I love fall travel, i

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01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 2: love going to see the leaves change. I'm excited to

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Speaker 2: have time.

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01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: We just went to the most insane haunted house we've

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01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: ever been to. We can't say where, but.

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Speaker 2: It was crazy. Oh the production value wof that was legendary,

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01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 2: legendary legends.

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Speaker 1: Before we go and sing us out, please vote, please vote,

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01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: please vote, Please vote for Kamala, Please vote for Kamala.

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01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 2: In the words of voting rights activists Stacy Abrams, once

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01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: i'd may disappoint. The other side intends to destroy, and

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01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: it's hard to make it a nuanced thing. It's hard

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01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 2: to make voting in this election nuanced in the way

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01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: that we would like it to be when it is

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01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 2: a literal binary. Unfortunately, I think that.

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Speaker 1: We've shown that we can have these conversations, and that

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01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: we will have these conversations and they'll go in all

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01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 1: different kinds of ways. But ultimately, I just hope that

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Speaker 1: we do everything that we can to protect each other.

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01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: Let's just protect each other here, Let's just think about

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Speaker 1: each other. We end every episode with the song and

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01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 1: every episode of the songs.

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Speaker 4: Burtile Affair we conscted there Hello, won't change the weather,

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01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 4: won't change the weather, won't change the weather.

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01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 2: No, I don't know what I'm crying for.

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 4: How don't No.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the walls in my apartment building are

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01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 1: so thin. I'm in trouble.

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01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 2: Stop on the wrist.

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01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 1: Finally, man touches me.

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Speaker 2: Last. Culturesis is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money

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01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 2: Players in My Heart Radio podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yank. Executive

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01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: produced by Anna Hasnier and Hans Sani.

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01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 2: Produced by Beck Ramos, editing mixed by Doug Bamimnika Boord and.

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Speaker 1: Our music is by Henry Kobersky. Hey everybody, it's me

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01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers, letting you know. Tickets are on sale now

1431
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: to see me on tour, the Prince of Christmas Tour,

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01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: that is, I'm doing my whole album Have You Heard

1433
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: of Christmas? Plus a lot more with the whole band

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01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 1: all throughout December. Go to www dot mattrogersofficial dot com.

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Speaker 1: See me in a city near you