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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you

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Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, January fourth, two thousand, twenty one, Season sixteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number ninety one. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break. We're presented by Geico. We are live from

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Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star and we're

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Speaker 1: talking Cowboys football. Cowboys lose their final game of the

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Speaker 1: season to the New York Giants twenty three to night team,

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Speaker 1: a game that they needed in order to keep themselves

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Speaker 1: alive until Sunday night. We're gonna talk about all the

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Speaker 1: up losing. Before we do, though, we got to talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit about why it didn't matter at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, because as of last night they

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Speaker 1: football team. That did not happen, and it did not

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Speaker 1: happen for a bit of a I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it was a strange reason, but it certainly was a

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Speaker 1: reason that I didn't really buy much. And we'll talk

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Speaker 1: real quick before we get into the Cowboys game, with

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Speaker 1: what happened last night and what Philadelphia did. Obviously, into

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, they had Jalen Hurts starting. There were

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Speaker 1: previous game or games before that, but they had Jalen

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Speaker 1: a ball game, it's less than one score, and they

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Speaker 1: decide to pull Hurts. Did you have a problem with that?

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Speaker 1: Just as an NFL fan and as a Cowboys observer, Nick, Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I mean a problem with with how I mean we

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Speaker 1: coach my team, okay, And here it is. I mean

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Speaker 1: here he's coaching his team and he's doing it this way.

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Speaker 1: But um, you know you're trying to get a better

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Speaker 1: draft pick. That's what it is. And then you know

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Speaker 1: you got an assistant coach saying where this is a

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Speaker 1: no hat game, we're not having a hat. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: bs you. You're you're passing it out, you know. So

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Speaker 1: you know, just I think you said it. Just don't

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Speaker 1: don't insolt our intel just here here by saying it's

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Speaker 1: one thing when it's not. I mean, you were trying

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm comfortable in the knowledge that you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: coolest thing in the world, but I respect the pettiness

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Speaker 1: just it is what it is. And you know, first

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Speaker 1: But you say that so you don't get fined, because

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Speaker 1: Nobody remembers that because this almost never has a chance

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Speaker 1: that's the part that rolls people wrong. Now, let's jump

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Speaker 1: Dak and a good runner and all that, but two

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Speaker 1: yards to this offensive line against that team it seems

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Speaker 1: like twenty. So it's different. There's not just a chart

431
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Speaker 1: for that that has asterix and it says, well, what

432
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Speaker 1: if your center sucks? Oh yeah, it says here, don't

433
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Speaker 1: don't go for two if your centers up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying Joe Lunis, I'm just saying in general,

435
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Speaker 1: So analytics sounds good, but you have to take it

436
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Speaker 1: case by case, and that's why I think there's inconsistency.

437
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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure, Dave. You might know more about

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Speaker 1: this because you get into the analytics world a little

439
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Speaker 1: bit more than I do. But I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if the analytics chart said that they should have gone

441
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Speaker 1: forward in that situation. I just think there are a

442
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Speaker 1: lot of people who feel like, hey, you could have

443
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Speaker 1: drawn within three, and at the end of the game,

444
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Speaker 1: three might have mattered, right, But Amber's point is right.

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna sit up here and say I need

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Speaker 1: all the time I know to need what you know,

447
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Speaker 1: I want to know what I need to do, well,

448
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Speaker 1: then go for together and you know that you need

449
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Speaker 1: a touchdown for sure. All right, let's let's go on, Amber,

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Speaker 1: Let's get your moment. That mattered to me. I mean,

451
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Speaker 1: there were many things that led to this point, but

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Speaker 1: it was that Dalton interception towards the end of the

453
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Speaker 1: game the Giants, they were twenty three nineteen. It was

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Speaker 1: a third and goal. I mean it was like a

455
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Speaker 1: minute and twenty seconds left or something like that in

456
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Speaker 1: the game. And yes, he got he felt the pressure,

457
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Speaker 1: but if you go back and look at the game

458
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Speaker 1: and that play specifically, there was no need for him

459
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Speaker 1: to just throw that ball towards the end zone just

460
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Speaker 1: like that, so careless. And it's one of those things

461
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Speaker 1: that you still had another chance where you could have

462
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Speaker 1: made something happen, just throw it away to the side

463
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Speaker 1: or just hold on to the ball, but there was

464
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Speaker 1: absolutely no need for a quarterback that is a veteran

465
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Speaker 1: guy that has the experience many many years, that knows

466
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Speaker 1: the game, that understands and is aware. And yes, he

467
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: was having a horrible game yesterday, but you just you

468
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Speaker 1: can't at that point. You cannot be making those kinds

469
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Speaker 1: of decisions and mistake. That was absolutely rookie mentality in

470
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Speaker 1: my mind, and it should not have happened, and that

471
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Speaker 1: obviously led to the Cowboys just completely losing that game

472
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Speaker 1: when they actually had their final chance, that was their

473
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Speaker 1: final chance to get some points on there, and they

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Speaker 1: didn't because of that decision. Yeah, I think that's a

475
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Speaker 1: good I think you pointed out something really interesting there, Amber,

476
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Speaker 1: because if you look at it, you immediately want to

477
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Speaker 1: think Brandon Knight was the problem, which he was. He

478
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Speaker 1: did he could not block Wood and he couldn't block

479
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Speaker 1: Williams all day. That was a problem for him. But

480
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Speaker 1: you're right, like a veteran quarterback should have known in

481
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Speaker 1: that situation, Hey live to fight another day. Here, get

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Speaker 1: rid of the ball, get the ball out, throw it

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Speaker 1: to the sideline, do something. There's an opportunity here to

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Speaker 1: at least get another play rather than just chunk up

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Speaker 1: a prayer into the end zone. I know what he

486
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Speaker 1: was doing. Dalton Schultz was back there. He kind of

487
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: fluttered it out, So I don't know if if the

488
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Speaker 1: ball didn't have enough on it and that was you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened there, But you're right, that

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Speaker 1: was probably just as much as fault as it was

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Speaker 1: Brian Knight's fault. Dave, give a share your moment that mattered.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this for sure. And you know, I

493
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Speaker 1: didn't get to talk to Andy because I was on

494
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Speaker 1: the other telephone line with the other players when he talked.

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Speaker 1: But for a veteran quarterback to make a decision like

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Speaker 1: that in that situation almost makes me think he thought

497
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Speaker 1: it was fourth down. Honestly, I like it was the

498
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Speaker 1: end of the game, that was the last play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't I can't come up with a reason why

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Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback would throw that ball otherwise. H And

501
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Speaker 1: that's that whole sequence. To me, it's all about that.

502
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Speaker 1: And you know, we can talk about the we can

503
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Speaker 1: talk about the challenge controversy, the Dante Pattis catch. I'm

504
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: sure we will. But like for me, it was their

505
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: best drive of the day. Seventeen plays, four minutes. It's

506
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Speaker 1: their longest drive of the day in terms of plays

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Speaker 1: and time. You know, you got the Andy keeper on

508
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Speaker 1: fourth down. You do all this great stuff to get

509
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Speaker 1: in position to win the game. One fifty three to play.

510
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Speaker 1: Giants have one time out left, You're on the seven

511
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Speaker 1: yard line, and like, that just might be the worst

512
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Speaker 1: three play sequence I've seen in a long time. And

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Speaker 1: you know, you can lame Terrence Steele and Brandon Knight.

514
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton gets sacked on first down. Why on earth

515
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Speaker 1: are you empty? Why? Why are you not even why

516
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Speaker 1: are you not even going to give the impression that

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Speaker 1: Zeke might touch the ball on you know, again, it's

518
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Speaker 1: first down, Giants have one timeout, So like, not only

519
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: are you in position to score, but you have a

520
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: chance to force them to burn timeouts and burn clock like,

521
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: if you do your job very well, you can take

522
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Speaker 1: the lead and give the ball back to the Giants

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Speaker 1: with one minute to play and no timeouts. It's a

524
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: very good situation of being You go empty, so nobody's

525
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 1: even buying that you're going to run the ball with

526
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: your ninety million dollars running back. You get sacked because

527
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 1: your offensive line has been getting its ass whipped all day.

528
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: But quick Brook quick Dave that they didn't even get

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Speaker 1: whipped on that play. They literally just decided we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna touch, Like he just ran right by him and

531
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Speaker 1: nobody touched. Yeah, yeah, it was a protection breakdown. I

532
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: get that, and I mean that maybe the play works

533
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: if that doesn't happen, But again, like, why are you empty?

534
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: Why don't you even want somebody to think that you

535
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Speaker 1: might run the ball. And then you know, CD with

536
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: just probably his worst drop of the season given the circumstances,

537
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Speaker 1: and then we already talked about what happened on third down.

538
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a total meltdown. If they

539
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: even you know, if they even just charge into the

540
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Speaker 1: line twice and don't gain yards, you're still burning a

541
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Speaker 1: time out, You're still burning clock. And then you got

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Speaker 1: two plays to make it happen. I'm not saying it

543
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: would have, but like just a what a colossal failure

544
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: and it cost him the game. Obviously. Let me ask

545
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: you guys this question, And I know this may sound

546
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Speaker 1: like an overreaction, so feel free to say it is

547
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 1: an overreaction. But are you at all concerned about moments

548
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: when Ceedee Lamb has had drops this season? Because this

549
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: isn't the first time when he's had opportunities and just

550
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: couldn't make the catch, couldn't bring it down, and in

551
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: some instances they weren't tough catches. He just seemed almost

552
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: like he just kind of had a lapse in concentration.

553
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: Are you all concerned about that? Nick? Um? Yeah, I

554
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: mean I think you expect things. You expect rookies to make,

555
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, to have some inconsistent moments, and so he

556
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: had some. Um, this is not a cold weather team,

557
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: that mean at all. I don't know if they're a

558
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: warm weather team either. Like they're just not that good.

559
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean we as we know they're not that good,

560
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: but they seem to make more plays. The passing game

561
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: really struggles, and so it goes back to that first

562
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: Washington game. You need to be able to be a tough,

563
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: grind it out. We're better than you, tougher than you team,

564
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: and doesn't matter what the weather's like. You could run

565
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: the football and do all those things Nate that they

566
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: obviously can't do that, not not in this shape. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a little it's a little concerning.

568
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: That drop was the I agree with Dave, it's the

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Speaker 1: worst one. You know. I don't call a droptail Mary

570
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: really a problem. The Washington game was in the end zone.

571
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: That was a big play. But but this one, yeah,

572
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Speaker 1: I mean we're talking five our line. Maybe, Yeah, I

573
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: mean he might be able to break a tackle and

574
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Speaker 1: get in. You expect he's gonna make it interesting. He

575
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: was definitely gonna make it interesting. He'd be down there

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Speaker 1: close enough to where you could actually maybe decided to

577
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Speaker 1: run it on second down. Who knows. He's a really,

578
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: really good wide receiver. He had a really good year,

579
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Speaker 1: had one of the best years ever as a rookie

580
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: in Cowboys history. He's a good player. Won't for this

581
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: unbelievable draft class, you know, we would be talking about

582
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: him a little bit higher. The receivers this year were

583
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: really really good and he's one of them. Yeah, Amber,

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Speaker 1: you at all concerned? No, not really, I mean mainly

585
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: because he has given us a lot of great moments

586
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: and to me, those outweigh these bad drops obviously, things

587
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: that need to be addressed and he needs to work on.

588
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: But again, just like Nick mentioned, you gotta remember he's

589
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: still a rookie, and those are things that you know,

590
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: even though it's seem like he should have caught that,

591
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: it can happen. It can happen to veteran guys as well.

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00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: So I'd like to believe that he's gonna get a

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00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: lot better next year and become a lot better, and

594
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: based on the things we've seen from him, he has

595
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: definitely has the capability and the ability to get there.

596
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: So I'm not really worried right now. Dave seventy four

597
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: catches for nine hundred and thirty five yards, you know,

598
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: the catch in Minnesota, the touchdown catch many times, has

599
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: gone over the middle and made great catches while getting blasted. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean he has. He's had some mental lapses. I mean,

601
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: and I'm not just completely writing it off. This has

602
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: happened across four or five games. He's got some improving

603
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: to do. But no, I mean, I'm thrilled about CD's upside,

604
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: and he's again I've never I still have not met him.

605
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: I don't know when I will. But from the side,

606
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: he strikes me, Yeah, for sure. Well, he strikes me

607
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: as the type of guy that's going to internalize this

608
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: and use it as fuel to get better in the offseason.

609
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: He just seems like that type of guy. I agree

610
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: with that he is. He is that type of guy.

611
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: I've met him a few times. You know, this stuff

612
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: matters to him. But this talking about him being a rookie,

613
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: he's not a rookie anymore. After the game, pr staff

614
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: comes over, He's like, hey, you know, you want to

615
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: go over and talk to Nick. He's like, nah, I'm good,

616
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Speaker 1: I'll catch you later. Man, I'm good, I'll catch you

617
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: later on the season anymore. All that coming in saying

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Speaker 1: yes sir, no, sir, Like that that's gone he's doing

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Speaker 1: is a vet. Now. He turned out an interview which

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Speaker 1: Delon did the exact same thing. I gotta get you.

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Speaker 1: I think many guys necessarily want to talk after that.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't think give us some did yell the coat?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well, we're gonna get to that. There was

624
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: one guy I know that did talk and actually we

625
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: got a quote we want to talk about from him.

626
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Speaker 1: But before we do that, we're gonna take our final break.

627
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Speaker 1: When we come back, we got to talk about Mike

628
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Speaker 1: McCarthy and the one coaching decision that a lot of

629
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Speaker 1: people are pointing to as the most important moment of

630
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: that game, and it was a decision he decided not

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Speaker 1: to not to actually look at We'll do that talk

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Speaker 1: by Geico. There was one other moment that I wanted

676
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: to talk to you guys about yesterday. Late in the game,

677
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys are down one point. It's twenty nineteen in the

678
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. New York had driven from their twenty and

679
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: gotten all the way to the Dallas thirty two. Donovan

680
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: Wilson gets a sack that moves them back to the

681
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: Dallas forty two, so they got him out of field

682
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Speaker 1: goal range. Then on third and sixteen at the Dallas

683
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: forty two. They complete a past Pettis for ten yards

684
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: that gets them back to the Dallas thirty to an

685
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: interfield goal range. There was a question, though, was that

686
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: a catch or was it not a catch? Regardless of

687
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: how you feel about whether it was a catch, and

688
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: I want to hear from you guys on whether you

689
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: think it was a catch. Do you think it was

690
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 1: the right decision by Mike McCarthy not to at least

691
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: challenge it and force the referees to take a second look.

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Speaker 1: Let's start first with you Amber, Okay, putting aside the

693
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: NFL's inconsistency in what's defined the catch and all this

694
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: that has been talked about for years. Putting that aside

695
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: and looking at the play, I guess I'm not as

696
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: upset as many people are as far as the decision

697
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: because after watching the result of it, in my eyes,

698
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: it was a catch and to me therefore, I'm not

699
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: as upset as to Mike McCarthy not challenging that play

700
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: or not. But if you want to look at it,

701
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: you get what two challenges a game? So why not

702
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: do it? I mean, in a game that's as important

703
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: if there is a slight slight uncertainty with something like that,

704
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: just go ahead and do it. Just go ahead. I mean,

705
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: this is you gotta give it your roll in this game,

706
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: because that's it, that's all you have. So if you're

707
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: looking at it that way, I would have said, yeah,

708
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: go ahead and throw it. And I know, I know

709
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: it's easier said than done because we watch it from

710
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: afar and when you're down there, I'm sure it's a

711
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: lot harder for you to really see exactly what happened

712
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: or have a better clue. But even before the replay,

713
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: I thought it was a catch in my eyes, So

714
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: I can see why Mike McCarthy made the decision as

715
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: to not throw the flag and challenge it Dave, having

716
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: had almost twenty four hours to think about it, I

717
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: will I will say they had all three of their timeouts. Yeah, sure,

718
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: take a look at it if you want to, like,

719
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna kill Mike McCarthy for it. And

720
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: I pissed everybody off yesterday because it was a catch.

721
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: I think it was. I don't even I don't see

722
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: what the furreer is about. Pettis had both of his

723
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: hands underneath it, part of the ball hit the ground,

724
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: but did not move at all, like it looked firmly secured,

725
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: and it was ruled a catch on the field, which

726
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: we all know and don't bring up the des thing

727
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: because they've changed the rules significantly since then. If it's

728
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: ruled to catch on the field, you gotta see crazy

729
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: evidence to the contrary to overturn it. So the odds

730
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: that that would have happened, in my opinion, are very slim.

731
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: And then the irony is that it didn't work out

732
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: this way. But this happened with six and a half

733
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: minutes to play in the game, a game that featured

734
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: eleven punts, like nobody was sustaining drives in this game

735
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: at all, So it stands to reason the Cowboys might

736
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: have had to give the Giants the ball back before

737
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: they could have an opportunity to win the game in

738
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: these circumstances, and you want as many timeouts as possible

739
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: if that's the case. So with all of that in mind,

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00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: I don't blame Mike McCarthy for not doing it, and

741
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: that upsets some people, and I don't care because I

742
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: think it was a catch. Nick Yeah, I mean I yeah,

743
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: I think he probably should have challenged you know, you're down,

744
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: he's keeps them out of field goal range. You should challenge.

745
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: You're you're also down, and you know, six minutes to

746
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: go too early to be calling time outs. But I

747
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: mean if you call time out, I mean, if you

748
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: if you burn the challenge and you don't get it,

749
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: and you at least you you know, you're also stopping

750
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: the clock of me. You are down and you're about

751
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: to be down here, you know even more so you

752
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: might you might as well. I mean, I just think

753
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: that you should have. I'm like killing him for it,

754
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: because again I agree, I don't know if it would

755
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: have been over overturned. But it's all hindsight, you know,

756
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like that's what's so tough about coaching.

757
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they should have gone for two, but

758
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: now it's like, well I probably should have, and he

759
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: probably should have challenged it, you know, just based on

760
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: what you know. But but you know what happens if

761
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: the Cowboys act actually stopped them. You know, let's say

762
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: that they after the interception, they don't give up a

763
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: long run, they stop them, they use all three of

764
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: their timeouts, they get the ball back they do you know,

765
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: we would come back and go. Man, if you want

766
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: to challenged that and lost the timeout, the game would

767
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: have been over. So it's it's just the way, you know,

768
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: that's what armchair quarterbacks do. Yeah, you know. One of

769
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: the interesting things is I think I know for a

770
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: fact that Aikman and Buck were saying that they thought

771
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: it was not a catch. And I want to say,

772
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: and I don't know this for fact, Dave and Amber,

773
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: you guys were there with me. Do you recall whether

774
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: they had their their former referee expert come on and

775
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: did he say the same thing, Because yeah, Pereira came

776
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: on and said it that he thought it wasn't a catch, right,

777
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: And that's the reason why I think they should have

778
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: at least challenged because if you have another person who's

779
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: well aware of the rules, understands what referees are looking

780
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 1: for when they're making calls, if he has doubt and

781
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: he says, hey, I don't think this is a catch,

782
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: then that tells me there's at least a good chance

783
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: that the guy who would be under the hood reviewing

784
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: it might come to the same conclusion. And at that

785
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: point in the game, with everything you got at risk

786
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: there either giving three points or giving no points. I

787
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: think it was worth a shot. And that's where I

788
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: think it's it's probably a better idea for him, And

789
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm I think you kind of use your challenges. I

790
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: think the coach. It's part of the reason why I

791
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: don't like the challenge system. Challenges in the NFL and

792
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: getting it right have become a part of strategy. It

793
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: shouldn't be a part of strategy. It should be about

794
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: just getting it right. But if it's going to be strategy,

795
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: and I think then the coaches have to think about

796
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: it from a strategic standpoint. If you're in a situation

797
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: where overturning a call can make a huge impact in

798
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: the game, and there's at least a small, even a

799
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: small chance that you can get something out of it,

800
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: that's huge, it's worth the risk, is worth the reward

801
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: in that opinion. In my opinion there and so that's

802
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,720
Speaker 1: where I think in that instance, I think Mike McCarthy

803
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: made the wrong decision. Now, there's a lot of questions

804
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: about how he came to it. Was he able to

805
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: see it in stadium? Who knows were the people that

806
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: were in the press box who would normally give him

807
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: that information, Were they able to see it. What was

808
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: their assessment, Like, there's a lot of questions that we

809
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: really don't know, but all things being considered based on

810
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: what we know right now, I think he made a

811
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: nill informed decision. I think he should have at least

812
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: tested it and made them rule that what they called

813
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: on the field was correct. We don't know what was

814
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: in his ear. And I mean the NFL teams, you know,

815
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: even in the stadium, you don't have to show a

816
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: replay right then. You do when they get in the hood,

817
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: but not right then, and you can take your time

818
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: showing it. Yeah, yeah it was. If it was on

819
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: our arts, our guy, they're not going to see it

820
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: until they force you to see it. But if it

821
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: was the other way around, well you'll see it sixteen times,

822
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: you know someone that's what they do that. But but

823
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't put it on McCarthy. I put it on

824
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: whoever was in his ear. Yeah, you know. And this

825
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: is this is so freaking annoying because the NFL they

826
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: need to come out with like a very instructional video

827
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: of where they show every possible catch and say catch,

828
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: no catch, because there's no reason why there should be

829
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: such a debate where you have some people right now saying, oh,

830
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: that was in a catch, some people that say that

831
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: it was a catch, when you've got some footage that

832
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: clearly shows what happened there. Because we know that there

833
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: are some places that you can hardly see where the

834
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: ball landed, and there's some confusion there. But when you

835
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: look at the footage, there's clear, it's very clear as

836
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: to what happened. So my problem is why is there

837
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: such a confusion when what you're able to see is

838
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: so clear. Why is there people just debating on whether

839
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: or not it was a catch. Well, that's the thing.

840
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that to me, go ahead, go ahead,

841
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: And I was just gonna say, I don't I don't

842
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: know that it was clear. I think it was clear

843
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: for us to see. I don't know if it was

844
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: clear and what happened. What I mean by that is

845
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: like Dave said, he thought he had his hands on

846
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: the ball, and when the ball hit the ground, he

847
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: didn't move at all. When I saw it, I thought

848
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: the ball did move a little bit. I don't think

849
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: he lost control of it. And so that's the part

850
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: where it becomes great. Even though we all see it,

851
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: and we all see the exact same thing. I think

852
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: the interpretation of it can be very great to take

853
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: it out then, and the NFL should take it out.

854
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: I mean, the ball hits the ground, it's it's an

855
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: incomplete make it. I mean that's unfair because I but

856
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: that would make it real clear. It would make it.

857
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: If the ball hits the ground, it's an incomplete pass.

858
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: So I'll tell your quarterback to throw it up right

859
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: or tell your guy that he's got to keep it

860
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: from hitting again. That that would be one way. That's

861
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: how you wind up. That's how you wind up not

862
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: having a das catch it at the goal line. Just

863
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: if you're okay with that, Yeah, well that's literally, I

864
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 1: mean that's well, I mean that was the wrong call.

865
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: It was. It was the wrong call. I mean, but see,

866
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: and that that issue goes back to a play earlier

867
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: in the game that that I don't even know if

868
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: that was a catch. I mean, I don't even know

869
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: if it was a drop pass as that much as

870
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: it was it was a fumble. Yeah, because you know,

871
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: we've the dead thing. He caught it, he turned it,

872
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: he moved it to the left hand, he cupped it,

873
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: he drove, he extended I mean, catching the ball was

874
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: so yesterday day's news for Daz. He was already thinking

875
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: moving on, and that's what was unfortunate. Same with this,

876
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: the touchdown that the Giants guy had. I mean he

877
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: caught it. He it was diving, he was down. It

878
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: was very similar to the des thing. But they got

879
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: it right because they got it wrong six years ago.

880
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: Do you guys think that that would have I obviously

881
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: Dave and Amber, I think you guys agree that that

882
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: you caught. The right call was made. Nick, did you

883
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: think that was the right call? Yeah, that was a catch.

884
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: I do. At the time, I didn't even know we

885
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: were even. I didn't I'd tell you this. I didn't

886
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: bother to turn around and I had to go and

887
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: find a new replay. I didn't even bother to look

888
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: for that. I was looked like a catch to me

889
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: of the whole time. I was a little surprised afterwards, like,

890
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: oh did he not? So I don't know if it

891
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: would have been overturned. But you know, if Amari Cooper

892
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: makes that catch, everybody's like, yeah, he caught that, like

893
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: cowboy cowboy. Yeah, they're only mad about this because it

894
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: was a Giants player that caught it, yeah, which is

895
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: how it goes most of the time. Right, you give

896
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: if it's your team, you give a little bit more

897
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: difference if it's not your team, and you're like, ah,

898
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: that ball move, you know, so yeah that happened. So

899
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: what happens is is then let's say it's incomplete. They

900
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: pun it to the eight nine yard line. Now you

901
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: just need a field goal, you know, and you have

902
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: a kicker that's really kicking the last time. Unless you

903
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: would have gone to right winning then I don't forget

904
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: John spission next for four two. So I mean, it

905
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: all kind of shakes out here, um, which at the

906
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: end of the day is it's kind of the point

907
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: of all of this, Like we're making a lot of

908
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: these little small moments, but at the end of the day,

909
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: but you just weren't good enough, Like you just weren't

910
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: good enough to win the game. Okay, this is about

911
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: the time we're supposed to end the show. If the

912
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys had won the game, this would have been the

913
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: time we would have been starting to talk about the

914
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: game because you you would have gone all anti Philly

915
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: for the first twenty minutes and you know, right, just

916
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: to see but the whole thing. Don't forget this. If Philly,

917
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys had one, Jalen Hurts wouldn't have probably

918
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: played at all. I mean like I would have been

919
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: more okay with or they would have they would have

920
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: pulled the plug on this thing way before four. Like

921
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: you know, dude, I actually would have been okay if

922
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: they win to this game and said, hey, we're gonna

923
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: start Sudfille. We're just gonna sit Jalen. We don't think

924
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: he's we don't want to play him. We're just gonna

925
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna give set Field all the reps this week.

926
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna get him ready to play our best effort.

927
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: I would have been more okay with that than playing

928
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts up until the fourth quarter and you're in

929
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: the game and then saying we're gonna go and start

930
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: put somebody else in, Like that's just that's the part. Yeah,

931
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it's just not good for the game.

932
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: Has never met herm Edwards every even they don't even

933
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: know who each other are. Yesterday was such an insane

934
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: range of emotions because when you wake up, you're like,

935
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: all right, cowboys gotta win, gotta root for Washington to lose,

936
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: gotta make the playoffs. Let's go Cowboys lose, that sucks.

937
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: I guess we actually want Washington to win because that

938
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: helps our draftstre And then by the end of by

939
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: the end of the night, you're like, oh, thank god

940
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys lost, because it would be a nightmare if

941
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: we were faced with this situation had any was winning

942
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: gotten the Cowboys into the playoffs, Like thank Honestly, I

943
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: don't know if I could handle that news cycle. That

944
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: would have been rough. So I would all I mean

945
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: and an unfortunate day. But I guess it worked out.

946
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: And where where did the Cowboys pick if they if

947
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: they would have won, Well, the Giants are picking one

948
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: spot behind him, right, so pick eleven eleven? Yeah, Well,

949
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: so if if Washington had lost, I think they would

950
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: pick ten and the Cowboys would pick eleven. Yeah, and

951
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: the Giants would have jumped up to nineteen. Yeah, got it.

952
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was it. I think it all

953
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: ended as it should, because I know I would have

954
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: broken my TV if if that would happen after the

955
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys won, I would have had some feelings about that.

956
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: But anyway, it worked out and we move on to

957
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: the off season and Dave gets to talk to us

958
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: about about the draft for the next four months. All right,

959
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: so we appreciate you guys, Joannus, we'll be back. Actually,

960
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: we're starting our off season schedule, so we're gonna be

961
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays. The Cowboys Break will be on every Wednesday

962
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: at eleven thirty am Central Time, So make sure you

963
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: check us out this Wednesday and every Wednesday after this.

964
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,440
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965
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,399
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966
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,879
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967
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968
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,480
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