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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome in to Turning Point.

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Speaker 2: Tonight.

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Speaker 1: We're together.

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Speaker 3: We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. You know,

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Speaker 3: perspective of abroad. Harry Cole is from the UK, worked

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Speaker 3: Cole Saves the West. Yeah, what does that mean?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I'm from London. As you might have

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Speaker 4: guessed by my accent. We're facing the same issues that

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Speaker 4: America is facing across Europe, across the United Kingdom. I

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Speaker 4: think there is a massive crossover in how we deal

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Speaker 4: with those problems as well.

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Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of lessons that can

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Speaker 2: be learned from the Trump administration.

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Speaker 4: For for Britain, and I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: things that Britain are getting wrong, but I think the

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Speaker 4: America want to go down that path. I think a

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Speaker 4: lot of things that Europe getting wrong, particularly on mass migration,

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Speaker 4: particularly on free speech.

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Speaker 2: That we can still serve as a warning sign for

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Speaker 2: the wider West.

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Speaker 4: So we want to look at what we can learn

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Speaker 4: from each other, how we can work together.

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Speaker 2: What's America getting right? What was America getting wrong? What

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Speaker 2: are we getting right? What are we getting wrong?

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Speaker 3: Where can we mean to the middle before it's too

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Speaker 3: How many people do you think, just in your estimation

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Speaker 3: anecdotal can define the West.

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Speaker 2: That's a very good point and one one I did

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't I work for Britain's best selling

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Speaker 4: haveloid newspaper, and I don't suspect that many of our

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Speaker 4: readers this is in there thinking, you know, this great

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Speaker 4: cause of the West.

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Speaker 2: But there is overwhelmingly a sense of collective values and collective.

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Speaker 4: History in what we would call in Britain perhaps the

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Speaker 4: common Wealth, and I'm thinking America, Canada, Australia as the

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Speaker 4: sort of striking examples. But countries respects strong borders, strong

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Speaker 4: shared history, strong democratic values and a possilized way of

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Speaker 4: doing things. I think that is what binds the West.

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Speaker 4: Obviously geographically, when you've got Australia and New Zealand, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's quite the West. But I think I think, I

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Speaker 4: think you know what the West is. When you started

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Speaker 4: seeing it, you're losing it. I think that's when people

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Speaker 4: wake up to this idea of Western values and what

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Speaker 4: we need to defend.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and I don't know where. I don't know where

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Speaker 3: you're at religiously or any of that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: I would define the West, or at least the the

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Speaker 3: birth of the West as the philosophy of Athens meets

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Speaker 3: the religion of Jerusalem. You've got, You've got Socrates play

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Speaker 3: well humans can't get to virtue. You need a higher power,

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Speaker 3: and then boom, Jerusalem the higher power. Now with that

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Speaker 3: understanding of quote unquote the West, is there a necessity

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Speaker 3: for a religious component when it comes to saving it

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Speaker 3: or can it be done strictly on the culture that

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Speaker 2: I think I think it can be done.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, I'm talking anathologically being here is like is a

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Speaker 4: quite extraordinary because it's you know, I've been to speaking

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Speaker 1: This is nothing like you've ever seen, not.

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Speaker 4: Just on the scale the pinning of faith, which you

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Speaker 5: In British politics.

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Speaker 2: But yet in.

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Speaker 4: British politics we have bishops in our legislature, but you

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Speaker 4: don't hang it. The religion is built in the established

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Speaker 4: Church of England, is built into the system.

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Speaker 1: Everybody ignores it some reason in the way that it's completely.

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Speaker 4: Different from here where actually you deliberately excluded the official

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Speaker 4: religion aspects from your democracy. But yet the faith is

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Speaker 4: so strong in the in the in the wider community.

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Speaker 4: So I think we've got to do our faith differently

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Speaker 4: in Britain. But yes, it is there, and it's in

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Speaker 4: the values of Christianity and the reality of as you say,

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Speaker 4: that tradition, that that long tradition going back centuries.

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Speaker 2: That is underpinning it.

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Speaker 4: Whether we wear our crosses on our sleeves and our

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Speaker 4: hats and our t shirts that they do here is different.

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Speaker 4: But fundamentally Britain is a Christian country. Yes, Christianity publicly

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Speaker 4: church tendance on. Yeah, but the values of the British

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Speaker 4: quote unquote constitution British law and order, British values are

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Speaker 4: under underpinned in that in that historical world.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just I'm curious, So in order to maintain

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Speaker 3: the culture and the tradition of that, if the people

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Speaker 3: don't buy into the religion that underpinned the tradition, how

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Speaker 3: does that, how's that sustainable?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's that is a very good point, and that

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Speaker 4: is I think where things started to it's a wait.

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Speaker 2: That is where I think.

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Speaker 4: You know, on the stage, you hear you hear a

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Speaker 4: lot here it's you know, it's this isn't wait, This

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Speaker 4: isn't a revival, that revival of of Christianity, main religion

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Speaker 4: of Britain off the shells hasn't happened. It's going the

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Speaker 4: other way. And it's almost that. Actually, religion in the

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Speaker 4: UK has always been in terms of sort of public policy,

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Speaker 1: By another religon, another religion.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, the religion has sort of

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Speaker 4: public sector vocalism personally, okay, but yeah, no, obviously.

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Speaker 2: You know one of the key things.

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Speaker 4: But as soon as anyone here is my action in

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Speaker 2: For what the hell is going on?

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Speaker 4: In London, What are you doing with your borders? I

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Speaker 4: do think it's slightly overblown, but I obviously do get

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Speaker 1: Really, why is that.

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Speaker 3: Because I read all the same things everybody else reads,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not there.

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Speaker 4: Because actually the success of integration in the UK is

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Speaker 2: There are second and third and fourth generation.

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Speaker 4: Indians with Muslims who have integrated into the UK society

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Speaker 4: in a way that is truly impressive.

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Speaker 2: In the last fifteen years.

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Speaker 4: However, that is that is afraid and that is when

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Speaker 2: And actually I think it's a it's a it's a

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Speaker 2: rather than the migration.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the arguments that are made.

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Speaker 3: In terms of priority of how those are I'm thinking

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Speaker 3: of a clip from like the eighties.

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Speaker 1: I think it's Roan Edkinson saying, I like Indian food.

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Speaker 4: Now we've got the recipe, but you got it so

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Speaker 4: so in terms of what that's that's the argument that means,

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Speaker 4: well that the culture of the food.

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Speaker 2: It's like affairs more than argument.

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Speaker 4: Basically, yeah, I'd take a curry over this guy, or

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Speaker 4: you know, yeah, yeah. Look, the reason that clip was

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Speaker 4: it was it became that religious dogma, that mantra that

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Speaker 4: a sort of almost post borders happy worlds where multiculturalism.

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Speaker 2: Is a is you know, is a British value.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of not It can work and it can

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Speaker 2: That I mean, that clip is a perfect example.

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Speaker 4: Because anyone that raised immigration, he was kind of lampooning

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Speaker 2: Twenty years either dismissed or dismissed or corner racist.

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Speaker 2: And this is how of anguish and rage came through

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Speaker 4: Yes, we left the European Union, but the immigration after

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Speaker 4: Whereas you know, it's it's it's sort of that the

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Speaker 4: That's saying we're going to deport illegal criminals. The left

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Speaker 2: And I think what we're seeing in Britain is a

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Speaker 4: The political class is twenty years media class, I will

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Speaker 3: And one is there any is there any political figure

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Speaker 4: He got into trouble for things he said, very outspoken,

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Speaker 2: We haven't used any of the freedoms that lead in

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Speaker 4: The Union has given us nigerl Frid was obviously a

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Speaker 4: They have become the most historically unpopular administration in record time.

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Speaker 2: Polling was invented.

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Speaker 2: I think enough people are going to say, why not

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Speaker 4: It's like, right, the system needs electoral shock therapy, it

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Speaker 2: They call it the blob. Trump calls it the sleep

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Speaker 4: They call it the blob in the UK, you know,

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Speaker 4: Well maybe just one big beautiful bill, but one big

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Speaker 4: the state that I've created. The Human Rights Act, which

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Speaker 4: basically enshrines oversight from the Strasbourg Human Rights Call into

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Speaker 4: every single law, the Equalities Act, which is a pernicious

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Speaker 4: piece of legislation that.

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Speaker 2: Just cripples government for being able to basically anything.

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Speaker 4: With because you can upset someone gone BOMFA, gone leave

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Speaker 4: that European Convention of Human Rights. Day one, I would

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Speaker 4: go further and leave a whole load of UN agencies will.

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Speaker 2: Say that term too.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, but and then he's got to basically the hazard

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Speaker 4: lords is obviously an unelected chamber, Our unelected Senate essentially

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Speaker 4: is stuffed full of these public sector gurus and they

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Speaker 4: you know, he's got to basically on day one a

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Speaker 4: point one hundred and fifty people's peers, not the animal

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Speaker 4: distioning for a job, but one hundred and fifty people's

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Speaker 4: peers to go. He might not even have to appoint them,

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Speaker 4: but say, look, you pass this bill or.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to flog the Upper.

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Speaker 4: Chamber with these with these one hundred biers, and we're

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Speaker 4: going to vote to abolish the Upper Chamber.

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Speaker 2: And that's the only way I think you can do it.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say it for the balls.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand British politics nearly as well, but I

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Speaker 3: think you've convinced me that, yeah, he can't do that.

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Speaker 1: It's that much.

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Speaker 4: They came pretty close to it because the Hasard lords

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Speaker 4: was basically blocking Brexit. They wanted a second round, and

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Speaker 4: they wanted the stupid public to begin to be told to,

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Speaker 4: you know, make the correct decision. Yeah time, and eventually

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Speaker 4: they relent it. But you know that the Prime Minister

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Speaker 4: can ask the King to do, you know, come to

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Speaker 4: a point Piers overnight, and if you appointed them on

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Speaker 4: a platform abolition, I mean I think the public could I.

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Speaker 1: Just the BBC, the guy who's going.

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Speaker 3: To say they're taking away the healthcare the NHS is

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Speaker 3: being it would cut it.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna we haven't even gone on to the Nah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say.

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Speaker 4: They are a great Swans, great democracy with a you

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Speaker 4: know where we're a health service with the ones great democracy.

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Speaker 2: On the side.

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Speaker 4: By the end of this decade, half of day to

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Speaker 4: day government spending, half of day's day government spending is

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Speaker 4: going to be on the NHS.

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Speaker 2: After that, one hundred billion pounds a year on benefits.

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Speaker 4: After that one hundred and eleven billion pounds a year

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Speaker 4: servicing our debts, basically bankrupting.

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Speaker 1: Well, Harry call saves the West. I appreciate the conversation.

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Speaker 3: And as much as I'd like to save the West,

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Speaker 3: unfortunately I'm much less optimistic.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for that.

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Speaker 4: Where maybe I'm holding out for a second season, it's

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Speaker 4: gonna take a little while.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. The cub.

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Speaker 3: Pre Patel friend of the show, fun Internet personality?

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Speaker 1: What is what is even? What is any of this anymore?

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Speaker 1: What is an influencer?

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Speaker 5: Like you?

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Speaker 3: Just you turn on the cameras, just start talking? Is

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Speaker 3: that what you do? Is that when you're like, hey,

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Speaker 3: what do you do? I talk at a phone?

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Speaker 7: Basically I voiced my opinions on political and cultural matters

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Speaker 7: on the Internet.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna say you probably can't say I talk on

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Speaker 3: a phone because they'll go Indian customer service.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, basically I was bad.

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Speaker 2: I've got it.

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Speaker 7: I do text the board, hell I do.

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Speaker 1: So okay.

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Speaker 3: In reality, you've been an interesting kind of presence on

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Speaker 3: the on the Internet seed for a while.

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Speaker 1: Yea, you've had you have the show a number of

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Speaker 1: times just kind of like a as.

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Speaker 3: A commentator, kind of changed how we do the show

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Speaker 3: a little bit, so that's not as frequent as it

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Speaker 3: as it was. What do you notice is going nuts

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Speaker 3: on social media because because there's certain topics, right, like

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Speaker 3: there's certain things that go crazy, like you know, Trump

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Speaker 3: said this, Epstein files, Hillary Kamala, Hillary Kamala are not

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Speaker 3: really thinks anymore.

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Speaker 7: But I don't know. Hillary might be or sorry, Kamala

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Speaker 7: might be making a comeback.

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Speaker 3: But don't write she's leading in the polls, She's beating

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Speaker 3: jd vance in the polls.

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Speaker 7: Is she last night? Last I saw is that Trump

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Speaker 7: was actually beating her in the holes.

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Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter, she's not gonna win.

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Speaker 3: I kind of hope she continues to stay above so

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Speaker 3: that she decides to run.

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Speaker 7: I will I want to make a public plead Democrats,

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Speaker 7: please spare us the inevitable heartbreak of Kamala Harris running

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Speaker 7: because we will never stand a chance. Please don't do

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Speaker 7: that to us.

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Speaker 1: I get what you're doing. I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I was going to make the pace of like, no,

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Speaker 1: let her run, please make We.

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Speaker 3: Were in the same page job You're in Houston at

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Speaker 3: the mech and Kelly tour in, Don Junior gave his

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Speaker 3: full throated endorsement to Kamala Harris to be the DNC chair.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, sorry, not d need to win the DNC

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Speaker 3: nominee for president.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So immigration has been like a thing.

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Speaker 7: Immigration, So this is.

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Speaker 1: This is what I want to talk about, because there's

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Speaker 1: so many everybody talks about all the things.

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Speaker 3: Specifically, you have garnered a lot of attention for making

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Speaker 3: the erroneous claim that not all cultures are the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about that.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's pretty it's pretty simply laid out

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Speaker 7: like that. Not all cultures are the same. You still

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Speaker 7: have cultures across the world that embrace things like slavery, underage,

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Speaker 7: like child marriage, human sacrifice, and we're trying to make

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Speaker 7: the argument that all cultures are equal and we in

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Speaker 7: the West, but specifically America, need to embrace them and

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Speaker 7: let them just come into our country.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so, yeah, and so what is kind

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Speaker 1: of the obviously, how do I phrase this the negative reaction?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 3: Because so here's why I wanted to talk about this,

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Speaker 3: because so yesterday we're at a thing, just out and

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Speaker 3: about doing do and stuff, and I was talking to

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Speaker 3: somebody else and you pulled out your phone and shows

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Speaker 3: that Elon must just like to tweet a mind. And

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Speaker 3: I know that I'm not saying this is like a

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Speaker 3: flex but like that's crazy.

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Speaker 7: It is. It is crazy to think about, and it's

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Speaker 7: it's happened a handful of times more recently just with

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Speaker 7: the immigrations.

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Speaker 1: It whiz, what is the what is like category?

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Speaker 3: Characterize what it is that you're saying on the internet

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Speaker 3: that is making the richest man in the world, who

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Speaker 3: guys who owns the platform that you're posting it to

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Speaker 3: repost that.

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Speaker 7: I you know, I think it's things that people are

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Speaker 7: very much recognizing and a lot of people are voicing this.

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Speaker 7: I'm far from the first person to have this opinion

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Speaker 7: and put it on the internet. But I think what

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Speaker 7: is shocking to a lot of people is that I'm

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Speaker 7: a young, obviously not fully white woman saying that, and

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Speaker 7: I have a very Indian name, like I very very

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Speaker 7: much recognize that. So people deduce that my family obviously

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Speaker 7: immigrated here at least at some point, which they did,

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Speaker 7: and they think that it is a cardinal sin as

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Speaker 7: somebody that has at some point been the beneficiary of

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Speaker 7: immigration to this country.

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Speaker 1: That I don't want open borders.

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Speaker 7: Exactly, that I don't want up open borders. That I

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Speaker 7: don't think that all immigration, even legal immigration, is a

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Speaker 7: good thing for the country, because it's simply not.

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Speaker 3: So you were briefly before we got on here, before

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Speaker 3: I stopped you, we're telling us how you and Mam

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Speaker 3: Danny are cousins.

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Speaker 7: No, no, we're not cousins.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So tell us the backstory of your family's immigration thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you have a white mom, Yes, I have

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Speaker 1: a white mom. Yeah, my dad immigrated, your dad immigrated.

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Speaker 7: Yes, my family on my mom's sign. I have ancestry

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Speaker 7: dating back to the seventeen hundreds. Here one of my

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Speaker 7: ancestors literally founded the colony of Georgia. So I have

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Speaker 7: tea proofs.

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Speaker 1: You're an immigrant, bigot? Is what I hear? Perfect?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but my dad's family, so my dad was born

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Speaker 7: in Uganda right before with no no okay, okay, mom,

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Speaker 7: Donnie if I'm if I'm not mistaken, Mom, Donnie's parents fled.

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Speaker 7: You got to the same time that my family did.

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Speaker 7: No from Uganda. So with the dictator of Ganda at

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Speaker 7: the time, and he basically said, all the Indians there

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Speaker 7: not not dark enough. If you don't leave, we're going

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Speaker 7: to throw you in concentration camps or kill you. So

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Speaker 7: everybody obviously fled. My family went to the UK and

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Speaker 7: that's where they stayed for roughly ten years while waiting

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Speaker 7: to be able to come to this country.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, and so that that means you can't criticize any immigration.

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Speaker 7: Then apparently when my so my father came here and

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Speaker 7: was pretty much already.

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Speaker 3: Assimilar, Why did you just say father? Do you describe

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Speaker 3: him as father? Because that's a very that's a high

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Speaker 3: society that my father when.

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Speaker 7: I referred to him like in this contacts, Yeah, sometimes

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Speaker 7: very horrible. Sorry you say dad, my dad?

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right?

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Speaker 7: No, I mean my dad grew up. He moved to

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Speaker 7: England when he was about three years old, So he

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Speaker 7: grew up in England and then moved here. You asked

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Speaker 7: my family or any friends of my father's that he's

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Speaker 7: known since then, He's never had an accent. He assimilated

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Speaker 7: right away. My dad interned for the Reagan.

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Speaker 1: You never had an Indian accent? Do you also do

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Speaker 1: an Indian accent?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 1: It never never had had.

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Speaker 7: A British accent, Yeah, accent proof. I think he just like,

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Speaker 7: once he got here, he was like full America.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's interesting.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but yeah, Rock ridged conservative from the time that

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Speaker 7: he got here.

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Speaker 1: So why, how how does that happen?

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Speaker 7: Well, okay, so a lot of people, especially at that time,

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Speaker 7: credited JFK with a lot of the Indian immigration to America.

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Speaker 7: So I think that's why we see a lot of

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Speaker 7: brown people, really really raw raw for Democrats. But it's

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Speaker 7: just kind of a fallacy because it's really not something

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Speaker 7: you can credit JFK with in the first place. But like,

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Speaker 7: my dad recognized the values that this country had long

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Speaker 7: before he even moved here, so that's why he was

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Speaker 7: so ready to embrace it one upon arrival. On having

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Speaker 7: the privilege of being able to cut years.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So did you grow up in a Christian household?

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Speaker 7: I did?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So how did that happen? How does the how

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Speaker 1: does the Ugandan Indian from Britain.

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Speaker 3: Convert to Christianity and adopt American traditional value?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? So my dad, I don't know really where he

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Speaker 7: is particularly at with his spiritual journey. He has explored

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Speaker 7: a lot in the Christian Church. My mom is very

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Speaker 7: Christian on her side of the family, It's very very Christian.

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Speaker 7: So that's kind of the framework that I grew up in.

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Speaker 7: My mom took us to church every single weekend, church

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Speaker 7: camps during summers, and my mom's family kind of adopted

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Speaker 7: my dad even before they got married. My mom's brother

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Speaker 7: and my dad were best friends growing up, so he

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Speaker 7: kind of grew up with them and in my mom's

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Speaker 7: side of the family. So that was just kind of

667
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 7: the culture that I was raised under.

668
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: Yeah.

669
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, And therefore you're anti immigrant okay? So okay, Culturally,

670
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: how do you then, from a policy standpoint? And I

671
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 3: recognize this is a big expansive question with a potentially

672
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: impossible answer, how do you delineate the culture when people

673
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: are coming in do you have to do it by country?

674
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: Do you somehow figure out the individual? How does that work?

675
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 7: Well? I think it comes twofold. We also we have

676
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 7: to recognize and most of us do recognize, and I

677
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 7: know you do. There are obviously countries and cultures that

678
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 7: assimilate with American culture far easier, like my like Somalia.

679
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 7: Yeah exactly no, but like my dad grew in England,

680
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 7: he assimilated quite easily despite having a more ethnic background

681
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 7: than obviously just a white Englishman. But like those are

682
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 7: the type of cultures. Christian Western culture is going to

683
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 7: be far more assimilable to America than that of Somalia. Right,

684
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 7: so we have to look at that. But this it's

685
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 7: twofold because it's not that we can't have any immigration

686
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 7: from these countries, these like third world countries at all,

687
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 7: but you have to do it strategically and sparingly. If

688
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 7: we import these people here on mass altogether, guess what.

689
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 7: They come in a community and they're going to stay

690
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 7: in that community. They have no they're not incentivized or

691
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 7: even really given the opportunity to assimilate. We used to

692
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 7: hear these stories of you know, our grandparents migrating here,

693
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 7: and they came here with fifty dollars in their pocket.

694
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 7: They spoke barely any English, they didn't know anybody, and

695
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 7: they had to learn English. They had to figure it out.

696
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 7: But these people from Somalia, from uh like we see

697
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 7: in England, from Pakistan, they're not even like put in

698
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 7: between a rock and a hard place to try and

699
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 7: sim they don't need to.

700
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: So what do you do about that? Though?

701
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 7: You'll let like one or two, stop letting everybody. I mean,

702
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 7: it's I just don't understand why we have to allow

703
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 7: these people to just flood into our country. Really don't

704
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 7: like and there should be some sort of witness test,

705
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 7: like if you're not capable of loving this country and

706
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 7: wanting to be able to benefit to it, sorry, goodbye, goodbye.

707
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 7: It's a privilege to be able to come here. It's

708
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 7: not a right. So you either assimily and integrate into

709
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 7: our society, our culture, our norms, or go or die.

710
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm kidding.

711
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 3: I do not wish you came from. Yeah, there you go.

712
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 3: There's that too, do you think there should be? And

713
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 3: I realize we're probably going off.

714
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: The rail such a tad. I'm a generation component, So.

715
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 7: Man, this can this can for what for things like voting?

716
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, like you know, you can immigrate here, you

717
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: can do all the things, but it's going to take

718
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 3: a generation or two to fully assimilate to the culture

719
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 3: and the society. And and you don't just give it away.

720
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: You don't give citizenship away. Interesting and then birthright citizenship,

721
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: citizenship thoughts, comments, concerns, criticisms, How does it work?

722
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: Should it work?

723
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I I definitely think we need to take

724
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 7: a long hard look at both birthright citizenship and naturalization

725
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 7: in this country because a lot of people shouldn't be here.

726
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 7: But do you have citizenship in this country? But I mean,

727
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 7: if we're looking as deep as like a policy level,

728
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 7: I'm not qualified to comment too hard on that. But yeah,

729
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 7: I don't know, get rid of it. I mean, I'm

730
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be opposed.

731
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do both well because I think, I mean,

732
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: at the very least, don't allow somebody who sneaks across

733
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: the Rio Grande, has a baby in Alpasso and then

734
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: goes back or stays here.

735
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 7: Those parents are in the country legally, not simply on

736
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 7: a short term green card. But like if you are

737
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 7: both in the country, legally then fine. But yeah, if

738
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 7: you have a hop, skip and a jump over the border.

739
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: Even then sounds pretty suss. Even then, I don't know.

740
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: If you have a worked visa, you could get that

741
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: pretty easily.

742
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 7: No, yeah, yeah, that's what I said. No short term visas.

743
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 7: There has to be there has to be something, There

744
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 7: has to be some sort of barrier there where we don't. Yeah,

745
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 7: just allow people that are here short term that have

746
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 7: no actual steak in the country and just hand their

747
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 7: children who also don't really have a steak in their

748
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 7: country because their parents are potentially going to probably go

749
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 7: back to where they came from, or they're going to

750
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 7: mooch off of our system and sit here illegally. But

751
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 7: they shouldn't just be granted citizens should either.

752
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: So in wrapping up here, daughter and immigrant Elon Musk

753
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: owns a platform also an immigrant, hosted some of your stuff.

754
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: Yep, has he slid in the DMS?

755
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 7: Yet he has not slid in the d MS.

756
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: Don't lie, No.

757
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 7: I'm not lying, Okay, I'm God, God.

758
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: God for real, God for real. What do you think

759
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: the odds are?

760
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: Do you think if we post this to the internet

761
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: and talking about immigration, he'll he'll see this and then

762
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: slide into DMS time.

763
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: What would you do.

764
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 7: For the support? Love your platform, have a nice day, goodbye.

765
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: Also, could I have one hundred grand? You wouldn't even notice,

766
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: He wouldn't notice.

767
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: I will not have his child for that.

768
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: That's not what whoa. I did not say that, that

769
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: is at all you were at all? Did I say that?

770
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: At no point.

771
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 3: I'm just saying one hundred thousand dollars wouldn't mean anything

772
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: to him and it would help you platform wanted.

773
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 7: To give me a bonus, I wouldn't combline.

774
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: But you're the one that brought up, you know, a

775
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: quid program jump off.

776
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 7: You brought it up first.

777
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: I did not. As the record will show, which the

778
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: camera does not.

779
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 7: We have witnesses.

780
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 3: Okay, well bribtel, internet provocateur, bigot and fascist, whatever, all the.

781
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 7: All the words.

782
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: Thank you, appreciate you taking the time, Thank you for

783
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 3: having fun times. Congressman Andy Biggs here, hopeful future governor

784
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 3: of the state of Arizona. Why in God's name is

785
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: this very red state have so many Democrats elected statewide office.

786
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you a lot of people say, oh,

787
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 8: it's all the Californians that moved in. I don't believe that.

788
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 8: I don't believe that because we've got a lot of

789
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 8: conservative Californian instead have moved on.

790
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 1: One of the people that moved moved for reason. Yeah,

791
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna be a little bit conservative.

792
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, well some of them.

793
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of them aren't.

794
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 5: I mean, I at that, but I think it's.

795
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 8: Arizona has always been a very independent state historically, and

796
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 8: what happened is just people they came in and they

797
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 8: got disengaged.

798
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 5: That's another thing that's Arizona's famous for us.

799
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 8: You can come in and you can change your persona

800
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 8: change your identity and be somebody new here because it's

801
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 8: a state that always was welcoming.

802
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 5: But we're very independent here, very independent. So I think

803
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 5: people just kind of stayed home.

804
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: Really Yeah, And why is that?

805
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 3: Is it just because the issues in Washington don't affect

806
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 3: them on their data level?

807
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: What is why is that the case? Yeah?

808
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 8: I mean the bottom line is a lot of people

809
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 8: say it doesn't make any difference.

810
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 5: I can go vote, but it won't make any difference.

811
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 5: And for a long.

812
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 8: Time we were a third red, third blue, and a

813
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 8: third independent right and now you're definitely read or, and.

814
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 5: I attributed that to Charlie and turning I mean really

815
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 5: really don't really do.

816
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 8: But we're we have a three hundred and fifty thousand

817
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 8: voter registration advantage now over Democrats, and we anticipate having

818
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 8: a half a million by the time the election happens,

819
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 8: and that should allow us, if we get our turnout, yeah,

820
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 8: to turn this straight red.

821
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 5: I mean you started off the question. Charlie used to

822
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 5: ask me that.

823
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 8: Almost in front of every interview that that would sit

824
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 8: to you really say what happened, nanny?

825
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 5: Why I moved everybody, Here's what's going on and say, well,

826
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 5: you know we're gonna have to turn it red, and

827
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 5: it's turning red. It's turn red.

828
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 8: Now.

829
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Speaker 3: I hate for the you know, trite cliche Tom conversation.

830
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: But what are your priorities? Obviously you know it's still

831
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: conservative values, traditional values turn the state right around. But

832
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: what is like the priority as governor that you would

833
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 3: like to implement sooner than later.

834
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 8: Well, the first thing is we still have to advance

835
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 8: border security because we still have there's still some issues.

836
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, and it wasn't Arizona the forefront of that issue.

837
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: When they tried to do it themselves under Obama.

838
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, if you remember, right, And I actually actually was

839
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 8: in the legislature and helped pass some of that legislation.

840
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: Is your fault, yeah, but.

841
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 8: Actually some of that legislation, the most important parts, made

842
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 8: it through the Supreme Court, you know. Oh okay, and

843
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 8: so it's still viable. The other thing, though, is this

844
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 8: governor came in. What's the first thing she did. She said,

845
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 8: We're going to get rid of the Border Security Task Force. Okay,

846
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 8: so that's gone. That means that the border sheriffs and

847
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 8: the counties working together, stopped working together. Yeah, they're still talking,

848
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 8: some of them. But the other thing she did, for instance,

849
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 8: just was more symbolic than anything. Is she tore down

850
00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 8: Doug former Governor Deocey's container blockade that he had put up.

851
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 5: Like a wall near the Coco put reservations.

852
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: Of course, because walls don't work.

853
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's yeah, my favorite. There's there's a there's a

854
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 8: representative in San Diego. He says, Andy, I don't understand

855
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 8: why you like walls. And I said, well, well, why

856
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 8: don't you like walls? He says, you know, people just

857
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 8: go around And I said, give me an example. He says, well,

858
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 8: you know that wall in San Diego, it goes about

859
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 8: sixty five miles from the ocean out and what we

860
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 8: find is people.

861
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 5: Just go around the wall. And I said, are you

862
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: listening to what you're saying?

863
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 8: They're going around the wall, So maybe we should extend

864
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 8: the link to the wall.

865
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 5: What do you think of that? He looks at me,

866
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 5: and the dwarters the walls, that's what that's what you're facing.

867
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 5: But but so that's that's priority one.

868
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 8: You know, is border because you have to be safe,

869
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 8: no matter how much money you have. If you're not safe,

870
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 8: you know, you can see crime, mob bosses, cartel leaders

871
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 8: in Mexico. They might have a lot of money, but

872
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 8: there's a reason that they have all the guards that

873
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 8: they have. And then the second thing is economic issues.

874
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 8: We've got to turn this around. Uh, we're going to

875
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 8: actually renew the American dream in Arizona right now. If

876
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 8: you go to talk to young people, and Charlie was

877
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 8: talking about this even last August.

878
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 5: He's talking about young men especially.

879
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 8: They voted for Trump because they want Trump to restore

880
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 8: a home ownership, a home ownership society rather than a

881
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 8: renter society.

882
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 5: And and that's in Arizona.

883
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 8: Housing prices are out of control, and that's due to

884
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 8: water management, due to land management, is due to lousy

885
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 8: permitting policies of the of some of the jurisdictions.

886
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 5: But we can fix all that. And when we fix

887
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 5: all that, prices and homes are.

888
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: Going to come there.

889
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 4: Wow.

890
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 8: And and that's that's and I want the economic issues

891
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 8: to to be great.

892
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 5: Well, we'll be we'll be growing again. To this governor,

893
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 5: we're shrinking.

894
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 8: She's uh, what has she gotten from nonumber four and

895
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 8: job creation at number forty seven in the country.

896
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 5: Wow, this is crazy. This is a state that has historically.

897
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 8: Been growing, been pro growth, and she's trying to put

898
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 8: the hibosh on all that.

899
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: Now, what I think, I don't want to call it

900
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: political tactics, but you you've obviously been in Congress and

901
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 3: you understand that you need to build coalitions sometimes even

902
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: with the other side of the aisle. How do you

903
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: think that that kind of experience helps in trying to

904
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: build a coalition to win the governorship.

905
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 5: Well, for one thing, I know I need every vote, yeah, right,

906
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 5: So like.

907
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: Jas M Krackett doesn't need any Trump voters in Texas.

908
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, so lot Jasmine, we rarely knew.

909
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

910
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 8: So, so here's the way I look at it is

911
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 8: I'm going to tell people what I'm going to do,

912
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 8: and then I'm going to do it.

913
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 5: And that's my record. And also there's a reason that

914
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 5: people like Katie Hobbs gave.

915
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 8: Me a standing ovation and when I was the Senate

916
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 8: President in Arizona because I kept turning formed. I let

917
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 8: them have their say. I let them have their If

918
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 8: we could work with you, we'll work with you. If not,

919
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 8: we'll let you have your say, and then we'll do

920
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 8: what we need to do. But the bottom line is

921
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 8: I need every vote. I'm gonna get every vote that

922
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 8: we possibly can, and you know we're gonna get with

923
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 8: the help of Turning Point and other organizations in Arizona.

924
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 5: We're gonna turn out that vote. And like I said,

925
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 5: we have a half a million vote advantage.

926
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 8: If we turn out our vote like Turning Point turned

927
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 8: out three hundred and fifteen thou and twenty twenty four,

928
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 8: we will win going away.

929
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

930
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: One of the things I think is interesting when people

931
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: in certain legislative play of branches, whether it be state

932
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: or federal, when they decide to run for a higher office,

933
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: they kind of hit the snooze button on their actual job.

934
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: Have you been doing that at all?

935
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: Imagine you're pretty still active in Gagress despite also having

936
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: to run for the governorship. Yeah.

937
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 5: I like to think of myself as overactive.

938
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 8: I mean, we just we introduced more bills, like on

939
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 8: the on the one Big Beautiful Bill. I was involved

940
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 8: with groups that were meeting with the President to try

941
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 8: to hammer out stuff on the on these these healthcare stuff.

942
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 8: I get invited every every group gets several people invited.

943
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 8: The speaker he brings me in. I'm really really invited.

944
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 8: I'm the chairman of a of a committee at subcommittee School,

945
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 8: and we just had a hearing this week, and we

946
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 8: have hearings lined up going forward.

947
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 5: And it's you can't sleep walk through Congress.

948
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 3: You shouldn't anyway you could, by the way, that's the

949
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 3: problem is you can.

950
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly.

951
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 5: I shouldn't have said that, because I know people who

952
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 5: are they're sleepwalking through Congress.

953
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 8: But but we're trying to I'm trying to stay in

954
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 8: my staff.

955
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 5: Is I've got him so busy, o't I believe it?

956
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

957
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 8: And I gave one uh, talk to the to my

958
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 8: legislative director yesterday and I said, Okay, I know, I

959
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 8: know this is not in your area, but we need

960
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 8: to do a bill to actually repeal every federal education

961
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 8: mandate as soon as the Department of Education goes away.

962
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 8: Because no one else is thinking about that.

963
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well that would be necessary. Yeah, did something

964
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Speaker 1: has to happen.

965
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you actually rid of those mandates. Otherwise, the mandates

966
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 5: are here.

967
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: And nobody's there to enact it or enforce it or

968
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Speaker 1: do anything about it.

969
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 8: But but it'll be enforced by civil legislator and leg

970
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 8: litigation that's happen. So that's why you have to eliminate

971
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Speaker 8: those And I've mentioned this to the the Secretary before,

972
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 8: but I mean, like, let me give you an example.

973
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Speaker 8: I met with with the Energy Secretary of Chris Wright

974
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 8: this this week for an hour on issues in Arizona

975
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 8: and the West. I met with UH Administrator for the EPA,

976
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 8: Lee Zelden to go over more issues and ask him

977
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 8: about some specific issues for Arizona and also in the West.

978
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 8: I mean, you can't just sit down. It's not my nature.

979
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Speaker 8: I mean I would like to. I mean I'd like

980
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 8: to sit down and just pick up my guitar and

981
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 8: start playing. But we can't do that.

982
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't do that.

983
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: We gotta wrap up here. But it's one request that

984
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Speaker 1: I would have.

985
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, as a Californian, an outsider to Arizona, Prescott.

986
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: Can we change the pronunciation to how it's spelled?

987
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 5: What do you want to call it?

988
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: Prescott? Okay, that's phonetically how it looks. It's been bugging

989
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: me since.

990
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 5: Okay, So here's the deal.

991
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 8: I grew up south of the HeLa down in Tucson,

992
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 8: and everybody I knew called it Prescott.

993
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: Like you like, that's what that's what. That's what I

994
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: call it.

995
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 8: When I when I cant up here north of the Hila,

996
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 8: they call it Prescott, and and I'm like, okay, uh,

997
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 8: then I'm gonna go with what the Prescott haters call it,

998
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 8: and this Prescott.

999
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: So I think is Governor, your first action should be

1000
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Speaker 3: an executive order to.

1001
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: Rename Prescott to Prescott by not even changing any letters,

1002
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: you just phonetically change it.

1003
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 8: You realize that was one of our first territorial capitals

1004
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 8: in Prescott or Prescott.

1005
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: Don't lose those votes there. Yeah, yeah, yea.

1006
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 8: So it's I mean Uh, as far as things go,

1007
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 8: there are. That's a serious issue that you raise, of course,

1008
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 8: but we'll give it every consideration it deserves. I want

1009
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 8: you to know that perfect we're thinking of you man,

1010
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 8: Thank you, you're thinking of Californians, Corsman.

1011
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and best of luck. Hopefully we'll

1012
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 3: be saying governor around this time next year.

1013
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

1014
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 5: Good to be with you. Having merry Christmas man.

1015
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: Likewise, very Christmas.

1016
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you,