1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Demons. Jones did so much for the secondary group. We 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: saw the maturation. When I'm excited to see what he 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: does on this LSU defense. Think about the fact of 4 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: what Tom Brady just did getting to the super Bowl 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: with another franchise in the first season. If he's not 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: the best athlete ever, he will solidify it and has 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: in my mind, solidified himself as the most successful athlete ever. 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: What is going on? Vikings fans? Welcome to episode number 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: seventy seven of the Minnesota Vikings Podcast. I'm gonna start 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: this show off right away as I'm joined by Vikings 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: dot COM's Gabe Henderson and of course producer Jay Nelson. 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: The offseason is in full swing here with the Vikings, 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: and we've just been taking these shorter versions of the 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings Podcast to give you some updates on all 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: the things that are going on with the Vikings with 16 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. Another big member of the Vikings coaching 17 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: staff has left the organization, and that's Daurronte Jones, who 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: last season was the Vikings defensive backs coach. Now he's 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator of the LSU Tigers. Gabe, so I'll 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: just start there and kind of talk about what Daurnte 21 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,839 Speaker 1: did with the organization so far and what he meant 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: to the Vikings and what he's going on to do 23 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: with LSU. Yeah, I think it's a great move for 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: Daurnta Jones. I mean this is his thirteenth coaching change 25 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: in the past twenty years and his twenty year career 26 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: put it that way, But just have to change this 27 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: Jersey colors that much, you know, purple and gold and 28 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: j Ju and I were talking. I guess this is 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: the penalty that we get for drafting Justin Jefferson and 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: him going and being All Pro this year. But you 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: know he did so much. Dronta Jones did so much 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: for their secondary group. We saw the maturation of Cam 33 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: Dancer Jeff Gladdeney. I mean, those are two cornerbacks of 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: the future right there, just seeing their growth under his tutelage. 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean, we saw Harrison Smith have a resurgence in 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: his career. I mean this Viking secondary they didn't have 37 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: the year that they wanted to, but having all these 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: new Cornies, new faces with the new coach, I think 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: we saw the progression of that group and under Derontay 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Jones fifteen interceptions as a group. I think that's top 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: ten in the NFL this past year. He did what 42 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: he had to do, and I'm excited to see what 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: he does on this LSU defense because LSU we saw 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: coming off that twenty nineteen national championship that you know, 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: they had a lot of guys leave and then twenty 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 1: twenty not the best year. So I think he is 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: a great addition to that LSU team and it'll be 48 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: interesting to see what the Vikings do to fill that 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: defensive back coaching position. Void Deronta Jones joined the Vikings 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: after two years with the Cincinnati Bengals and before that, 51 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: two years as assistant defensive backs coach with the Miami Dolphins. 52 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: One thing that I remember Gabe and Jay is when 53 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: he was first hired two years ago by Mike Zimmer. 54 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: There was an Exes and Oh's interview with Paul Allen 55 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: where he was like, this young Darante Jones, I could 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: see him being a head coach someday, Like when Mike's 57 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: Zimmer says a young coach is gonna be a head 58 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: coach someday. That that really is something that stood out 59 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: to me and I always thought about that when I 60 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,399 Speaker 1: when I watched Toronte coach a bunch of these young 61 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: defensive backs the past couple of years, I mean, he 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: certainly had a tall task with what he had to 63 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: deal with this year with I mean, we we've talked 64 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: about it all year long on the Minnesota Vikings podcast 65 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: about how many snaps these rookies took at that position 66 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: this year and that was all led by Durante Jones. 67 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: So congrats to him. I mean, to get that job 68 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: with the LSU team who won the national championship with 69 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson just two years ago, this past season, they 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: did not have the year that there that they are 71 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: accustomed to. They were ninety nine in the nation in 72 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: their defensive rankings via Sports Reference dot Com. So definitely 73 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: there is some improved needed there from the former national 74 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: champions Day. But what do you think Durante Jones will 75 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: bring to the LSU Tigers. I think if if he's 76 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: able to do anything close to what he did this 77 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: year with such a young and I guess in experienced 78 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: and diverse group, but with the talent he was able to, 79 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, polish that coal into diamonds during the season, 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: I think for someone like LSU who has all of 81 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: the talent that they've had. They always have great recruiting, 82 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: they've had success for them to precipitously kind of basically, 83 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: if you look at the numbers in twenty sixteen, they 84 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: were fifth, twenty seventeen, they were fourteenth twenty eighteen, twenty sixth, 85 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: then the thirty third when they won the national championship, 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: and this year to drop all the way to ninety ninth. 87 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: I think at LSU they're going to be looking at 88 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: this situation and just say we need a change. And 89 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: for someone like him, who's got the pedigree, he's coached 90 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: all over the place, he's shown that he is trusted. 91 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: And I think with the comment you just had made 92 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: with a guy like Zimmer, where that is his pet project, 93 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: that is his group that he wants to work with, 94 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: and that is the guy that Zimmer had chose to 95 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: work with. Let alone the fact that when he was 96 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: with Wisconsin from before, that is how he kind of 97 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: got recommended to get to LSU. So for him to 98 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: have the success that he's had and for people to 99 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: have nothing but good things to say, I think LSU 100 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: made a smart hire on their end, and I think 101 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: coach I was going to be happy with what he's 102 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: going to get out of his defense moving forward, that 103 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: is for sure. I can't even imagine the amount of 104 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: there's coaches all over the league that have just since 105 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: being under head coach Mike Zimmer have taken these opportunities 106 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: at other organizations. Obviously Kevin Stefanski taking that Cleveland Brown's 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: head coaching position. But I'm thinking of my guy Jonathan Gannon, 108 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: who was actually the defensive backs assistant when I started 109 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. He now just took a job as 110 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator for the Philadelphia Eagles after spending a 111 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: few years with the Indianapolis Colts as their defensive backs coach. 112 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: So there is just the Zimmer tootelage, especially the defensive 113 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: side of the ball, all over the league. Obviously in 114 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: college football as well, with Toronto now taking this big 115 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: time position. But it's pretty amazing the amount of young 116 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: coaches that are getting these big time jobs at this point, 117 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: especially in college football in the NFL, and it's definitely 118 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: a fun thing to track. But I'm gonna throw this 119 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: at you, Gabe, kind of when you look at at 120 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: that defensive back's vacancy, that's left by Darante Jones. Is 121 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: there anyone that comes to mind, like any like not 122 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: even just speculating, but just thinking around the league and 123 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: what the Vikings have in house. Is there anybody that 124 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: you can see filling that role? I think that the 125 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: early contender for me, and like I said, this is 126 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: just my opinion is Mike Reid from Clemson. He's their 127 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: defensive back coach. I mean he's coached some really good 128 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: players from Alexander Mackenzie who played there. I mean, he 129 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: coached Coad Ray Tankersley, who was on the Vikings of 130 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: the past few games this year. I mean, I think 131 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: his biggest, you know, guy that he's coach is believe 132 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: a shot Brelin. I mean, he has a few guys 133 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: that he has under his repertoire that he has coached 134 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: at Clemson that could translate to the NFL with you know, 135 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: our young secondary. And then you got a guy like 136 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, Harrison Smith, who's going to help out with 137 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, being the coach on the field. But Mike 138 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: Reid right now, personally, it's just the obvious guy. There's 139 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: a lot of coaches out here. I mean, you got 140 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: Charles Kell. I think he's like the high well, he's 141 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: making put it his way. He's making some good money 142 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: to stay at Alabama, and you know, having Patrick Sortan 143 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: under his belt this past year and all the other 144 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: guys that he's coached. I think those are two names 145 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: right there, But I think my choice would be Mike Reid, 146 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: who's coming out of Clemson. Throwing some college names around there. 147 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, man, let the guys get some love. 148 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see what happens at that position. Obviously. 149 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: Last week, General manager Rick Spielman said that the Vikings 150 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: will not be replacing George Payton at that assistant general 151 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: manager position, so there will be some in house maybe 152 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: movement to fill that void. And then the other thing 153 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: that we will continue to track, and I'm sure Vikings 154 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: fans are tracking on their own already, is the offensive 155 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: coordinator vacancy that we covered last week that is left 156 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: by the legendary Gary Kubiak following his retirement. I mean, guys, 157 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: I think Clint Kubiak is the perfect guy for the role. 158 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: I know he's a little bit more of a quiet 159 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: member of the Vikings coaching staff, but I also do 160 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: know the trust and relationship that he has with Vikings 161 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: quarterback Kirk Cousins. So, Jai, I'll throw this one at you. 162 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: Is there any updates on the Vikings offensive coordinator search 163 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: as we kind of sit here and wait to see 164 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: what happens. All indications at this point is that they're 165 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: going through the process. It's it's usually a little little 166 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: lengthy just in general for all the different roles that 167 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: the NFL has, and then internally as well. I know 168 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: there are internal candidates. I'm sure that Clint is definitely 169 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: somebody that's on the list that they're going to talk to, 170 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: But they're going to dot their eyes and cross orts 171 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: and look at coaches not only in college but also 172 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: pros and my guess is that you've also got some 173 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: coaches and other staffs that are currently still playing that 174 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: they would like to at least talk to. So given 175 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: the way that all this stuff works and some of 176 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: the new rules that have happened over the last couple 177 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: of years with the league, this process will play out 178 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. But the nice thing at this point 179 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: for us is we have a little bit of time, 180 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: So I know, scouting and Rick and those guys are 181 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: all dealing with the Senior Bowl. But as far as 182 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: the coaching search and that kind of stuff goes between 183 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, special teams coordinator and now you know, defensive 184 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: backs coach. All this stuff will play out here over 185 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks, and I'm sure we'll start 186 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: to get some nuggets and some drips coming out in 187 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: the media that they'll let us know kind of what 188 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: they're hearing for rumbles. But we will keep you up 189 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: to speed on what's happening a jam Pack show here, 190 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: we have mock drafts. We're going to cover what happened 191 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: last weekend watching those games. I can't even tell you, 192 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: guys how it was just one of the best football 193 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: weekends that I could remember in a very long time. 194 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: When it comes to watching Aaron Rodgers take on Tom 195 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: Brady in a playoff game, which has never even happened before, 196 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: which is pretty It's just insane to me. That was 197 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: one of the most entertaining football games I've ever watched. 198 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get to all of that coming up. 199 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: But first I want to talk about a Dalvin Cook 200 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: press conference that took place this week. Obviously, following the 201 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: loss of his father, he's been grieving away from the 202 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: team since missing that last game of the season, so 203 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: to hear from Dalvin Cook and to see the relationship 204 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: that he has with the media. He was honored with 205 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: the Corey Stringer Good Guy Award, which is given to 206 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: the Viking that has the best relationship with the media 207 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: throughout the season, and he was easily picked by this 208 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: this year's beat reporters for the Vikings. So, Gabe, why 209 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: don't you just give us a summary about what Dalvin 210 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: Cook has meant to the team and kind of what 211 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: he's going through right now. You know, he's he's the 212 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: bread and butter of this team. I mean, he did 213 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: everything he needed to do for this Vikings offense. He's 214 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: a you know the route that he's going, he could 215 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer one day, and I think 216 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: that's that's his ultimate goal. Coming out of the press conference, 217 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: you can tell you know, like anybody that's that's lost 218 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: a parent, I mean, he's still dealing with it. He's 219 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: still grieving. He probably will be grieving forever. I mean, 220 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: that's a that's a huge loss to anyone. But I 221 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: think one thing that really set out to me about Dalvin, 222 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: you know, through this grieving process is that he posted 223 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: He's still found a little bit of time to post 224 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: something about football on this Instagram account, and he basically said, whoever, whoever, 225 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: that person that didn't vote for me for All Pro 226 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: this year, you're going to fill it in twenty twenty one. 227 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: So I think that's that's Dalvin's mindset. And I think, 228 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, his dad wishing his dad could still be here. 229 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play with an extra chip on 230 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: his shoulder this upcoming season for his dad. So Vikings 231 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: fans look out. When he was asked this week about 232 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: just what it meant to not make that All Pro list, 233 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, that's just motivation. Every rep that I 234 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: take in the offseason, I'm gonna be thinking about that 235 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: exact thing. And when you hear that from a guy, 236 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: just for all the great players, all the great plane acres, 237 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: they play with that chip on their shoulder. I mean, 238 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: I always remember Stefan Diggs talking about he knew exactly 239 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: every single wide receiver that was drafted before him before 240 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: the Vikings took him in the fifth round. And that 241 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: is something that always stood out to me, and that's 242 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: what all the greats do. They play with the chip 243 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: on their shoulder and they remember things like not being 244 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: selected as an All Pro. Another thing that stood out 245 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: to me and that Dalvin Cook press conference was he 246 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: talked about Gary Kubiak and the relationship that they had, 247 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: and the way he described Gary was he said he's 248 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: just real, like he's the realist coach that he's ever had, 249 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: which that's saying a lot with all the coaches that 250 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook has played under, especially at Florida State. But 251 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: I just I think there's gonna be a huge void 252 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: left by Gary when it comes to the relationship he 253 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: had with the players. And that's why I think Clint 254 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: might be the best option for the Vikings at that 255 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator spot. But let's move forward. Let's look at 256 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: what is going on in the world of the NFL. First, 257 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: I really want to talk about the games that happened 258 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: this week. It all started with an Aaron Rodgers Tom 259 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: Brady matchup at lambeau Field and Tom Brady came out 260 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: on top, which for Vikings fans, I don't think it 261 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: could have gone much better. Jay, I know you were 262 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: watching the game, What were you What was your main 263 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: takeaways from the game and how did it feel to 264 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: watch the Packers lose. My first thought was, how is 265 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: Chris Corso taking this game? Because Tom Brady has been 266 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: his nemesis forever for twenty years of his life. He's 267 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: ruined his life as a former Jets fan. But honestly, 268 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: and watching this game, like you said earlier, it was 269 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: one of the better games I've seen, especially championship games, 270 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: in a long time. I know that you know that 271 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: the Packers have been in some nail biers when it 272 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: comes to dealing with championship games here in recent history. 273 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: But what was so interesting to me on this one 274 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: was everyone felt like, well, you know, Aaron's gonna come 275 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: out and sling it and Tom's gonna have to be perfect. 276 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: Tom was not perfect. You know. Tom was a three touchdown, 277 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: three interception guy in this game. And the fact that 278 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: the Bucks were able to hold on as tight as 279 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: they did in the second half and make those plays 280 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: that they needed to, only giving up six points off 281 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: those three turnovers from Tom, that was a huge, huge 282 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: win for them. So that was a huge eye opener 283 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: for me. I know that the Bucks defense has been 284 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: playing really, really well, but I got super nervous when 285 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: I saw Antoine Winfield junior not going to play. I'm like, man, 286 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: Aaron's gonna start targeting some of those safeties. And then 287 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: during the game his backup went out with an injury 288 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: as well. So to me, I was just sitting there saying, 289 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: you know that the deck is stacking against him a 290 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: little bit. But for Brady to do what he did 291 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: and hit those deep shots, and for Brady to do 292 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: it when they needed it most, especially right before halftime 293 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: taking that dagger shot that looked like an Aaron Rodgers 294 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: type play, that was when I want This is why 295 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: you want a guy like Tom Brady in here. He 296 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: is He's a goat for a reason. This isn't not 297 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: too big for him, and the fact he was able 298 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: to do what he did in this game just showed 299 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: and solidified why he is one of the greatest of 300 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: all time. Yeah, I mean, I have nothing to say 301 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: when he wins that game at lambeau Field as the 302 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: five seed at his age at forty three years old. 303 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: I know he threw three interceptions. The stat that stood 304 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: out to me, like you said, Jay, was Todd Bowls' 305 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: defense with that Tampa Bay Buccaneers on all three interceptions, 306 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: they were able to stop the Green Bay Packers offense 307 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: and stop the momentum of one of the best offenses 308 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: in the league. But Gabe, my number one takeaway from 309 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: this thirty one to twenty six win for the Tampa 310 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers was when you have fourth down and you 311 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: are down eight points in the red zone and you 312 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: decide with Aaron Rodgers that you want to kick a 313 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: field goal with only about what was it like, two 314 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: minutes left, when the fate of the game is in 315 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers hands. I could never ever understand putting the 316 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: fate back into Tom Brady's. It just doesn't make any 317 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: sense to me. Well, that's why you signed Jordan Love 318 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: right to take the pressure out of Aaron Rodgers hands 319 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: so you can kick a field goals. No, but yeah, 320 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: that's that. You really can't make that up, man. I mean, 321 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: we saw Matt Lafleura said in a perfect role, he 322 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't have done that. But you got to think in 323 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: that moment. Yeah, people say Aaron Rodgers probably should have 324 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: ran the ball on third down. He probably would have 325 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: got to the one yard line if not scored. But 326 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: at the same time, you trust your defense, like this 327 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: is a really good defense granted Kevin King wasn't having 328 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: a great day, but they were making stops. I mean, 329 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: touchdown Tommy turned over to turnover Tommy in the second half, 330 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: and I will put the pressure on my defense in 331 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: that situation. But in hindsight, right, you got the best 332 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. I know Vikings fans don't want 333 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: to hear that, but they are realistic with themselves, Like 334 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback in the NFL, So 335 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: why not give that guy a chance to score some points? 336 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: And that that was a huge turning point in the game. 337 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: We know that the next drive Tom Brady Lynn for Nett. 338 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: They just ran the ball out and they did what 339 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: they had to do. I feel like, if you do 340 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,239 Speaker 1: put the ball in in Aaron Rodgers hands again, if 341 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: if the Green Bay Packers defense makes us stop when 342 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: Tom Brady has the ball after they kicked that field goal, 343 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers has a game winning drive at 344 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: home against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and sending them to 345 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And here's why for me, Like when 346 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: that happened in the game, like I was sitting with 347 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: a couple of people, we were talking about it and 348 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: They're like, why are they kicking the field goal? I said, 349 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't know why they're kicking the field goal, but 350 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: I understand a little bit. And it was because they 351 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: had all three timeouts plus the two minute warning, and 352 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: what they're banking on at that point, Lafleur is banking 353 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: on the fact that we can get a stop here 354 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: and at least have maybe a minute and a half 355 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: left and let Aaron Rodgers do his thing. But I 356 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: think that I think, and I think the thing that 357 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: that was a little weird in this game was they 358 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: went for two points earlier in the game and they 359 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: didn't get it. They went to Davante Adams. I think 360 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: they hit him once like not out of nine times 361 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: as either eight or nine plays in the red zone 362 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: that they actually connected with him, including one that was 363 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: kind of a back shoulder throw that got dropped, and 364 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: so they were trying to get him in the game, 365 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: but the buck secondary was doing the bend but not 366 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: break and kind of eliminating him and saying, we know 367 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: this is the go to guy in the red zone, 368 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: so what are you going to do now if we 369 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: stop him, And the fact they were able to stop 370 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: him was the difference maker in this game in my opinion, 371 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: and I think that's why Lafleur and those guys probably 372 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: got skittish because they're just looking at it saying, we're 373 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: not hitting this all day, but if we need to 374 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: take the points now, it'll be a five point game 375 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go win it. The problem is, 376 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: as if you're within ten yards and it's fourth and 377 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: goal on the eight yard line, you have to take 378 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: that shot because even outside of that then you have 379 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: to get a touchdown. Again, you still have to get 380 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: the touchdown no matter what. But the fact that the 381 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: Bucks were able to get a couple of first down 382 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: run out the clock, that had to be horribly frustrating 383 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: for him. Yeah, and you gotta think like the Tampa 384 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. They scored on the opening drive of the 385 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: second half. The next three drives, the Green Bay Packers 386 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: defense forced a turnover, interception, interception, interception, Field Gold like, 387 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm taking my chances with this Green Packers defense and 388 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: just didn't come up when they needed him to. The 389 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: last thing that I have on this game, and I 390 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: think you touched on it a bit, Jay, but the 391 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: way that they stopped Davante Adams in this game. I 392 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: was watching it from just from an x as an 393 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: O standpoint, watching the way they literally had a safety 394 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: just like waiting behind the cornerback on every single play 395 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: wherever number seventeen went, they had a safety just follow 396 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: and he was pretty much like shadowing the cornerback. And 397 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: they were saying, anybody else on this team, whether it's 398 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: Valda's Scantling, whether it's Alan Lazard, which Valdis Scantling caught 399 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: a big touchdown at the beginning of the game, but 400 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: then he dropped a few after that. Gabe, I just 401 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: want to throw this at you, like, what did you 402 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: see from an x is an old standpoint? Because I 403 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: was tracking it all game. I know what DeVante Adams 404 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: is capable of, obviously all the touchdowns he had on 405 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: the Vikings this year. But I noticed the way that 406 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: they stopped Devonte Adams and I thought it was brilliant. 407 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: They ran to cover one, and the only team that 408 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: could run a cover one against Aaron Rodgers is a 409 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: team that gets a good pass rush JPP and Shaquille Barrett. 410 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: They put so much pressure on Aaron Rodgers. How many 411 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: times have you seen Aaron Rodgers look uncomfortable in the 412 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: pocket and first and foremost where you get a pass 413 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: rush like that and then you're bracketing his number one 414 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: target like it causes his problems. And they just frustrated 415 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers the entire day. It looked like a too 416 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: high look. You got two safeties over top, but that 417 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: one that one other, so basically you had Mike Edwards 418 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: shadowing Devantae Adams over top, and then Lucky Whitehead was 419 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: just playing spy. So you know whoever was not guarding 420 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: their man Lucky Whitehead, while Jordan Whitehead was right there 421 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: to basically clean it up. And we saw his two 422 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: forced fumbles during that game. But they played the perfect defense. 423 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: They got the perfect amount of pressure. I mean, we 424 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: all know and Don mckinsu and Vita Bay when he 425 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: got in a couple of plays, you're not going to 426 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: run the ball on this Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense. They 427 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: only gave up one hundred yards twice this year and 428 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: one of those well once this year, and that one 429 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: time was against us. They had the perfect defense to 430 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: play back tri less offense. Kudos, Top Bowls, Kudos, Top Bowls. 431 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: Is right, I mean it was pretty impressive what he 432 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: was able to do from an XSNOS standpoint, what he 433 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: was able to do in the key moments with his defense, 434 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: and Gabe, you touch on it. I couldn't believe Jason 435 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: Pierre Paul still has the ability to rush the quarterback 436 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: the way that he did in this game. I mean, 437 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: you saw him in the backfield like so many times, 438 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: along with a bunch of the linebackers that the Tampa 439 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers have. I mean, they made Aaron Rodgers really 440 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: uncomfortable in this game. But going to the other game 441 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: a little less dramatic was the AFC Championship. The Kansas 442 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: City Chiefs defeated the Buffalo Bills thirty eight to twenty four. 443 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: The game ended with Stefan Diggs pretty much watching the 444 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: celebration at Arrowheads Stadium, which is probably the lasting image 445 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: that I took from this game. And obviously the Buffalo 446 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 1: Bills fans had the hopes and dreams of going to 447 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. What did you see in this game? 448 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: Game from their offense, they weren't able to really get 449 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: it going the way that they have in weeks past. 450 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: They said, hey, Josh Allen, if you're gonna beat us. 451 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: We're going to force you to run. We know you 452 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: don't have your start and running back. I mean t J. 453 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: Yelden couldn't really do much. So it was pretty much 454 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: the Chiefs not beating themselves, and they almost beat themselves 455 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: in that first quarter with that muff punt. But the 456 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: Bills offense, there was really nothing they could really do 457 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: to try to get the ball to Stefan Diggs or 458 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: Cole Beezy or any of those guys because they pretty 459 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: much took that away. Tyrn Matthew was always where Stefan 460 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: Diggs was. And when you have your best defensive player 461 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: facing your best offensive player while getting double team, your 462 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: your best receivers getting double team, I mean, it takes 463 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: away pretty much any and everything you can do. So 464 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: just great adjusting Garrett adjustments by this Chief secondary to this 465 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: this Chiefs defense, And I feel like that was pretty 466 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: much the story of the game. I mean, I feel 467 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: like the score was a little bit closer than what 468 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: the actual game showed, but it was just the Chiefs 469 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: having their way, Chiefs defense having their way with this 470 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: Bill's offense. Yeah, you kind of knew that if the 471 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: Chiefs defense was able to stop the high flying Buffalo 472 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: Bill's offense, that Patrick Mahomes was going to put whatever 473 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: points on the board that he needed to put up. 474 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: And I saw a stat that he's averaging like over 475 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: thirty points in every playoff game he's played so far, 476 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: which is just unbelievable considering the career, how young he is, 477 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: and how simple he makes it look. So Jay, I mean, 478 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: it was the same story for this Chiefs offense, whether 479 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: it was running the ball, devising up plays, Eric bi 480 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: Enemy and Andy Reid, they continue to make some of 481 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: the best defenses in the league look pretty much foolish. 482 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: And that was the same thing that happened in this game. 483 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, to see little Tarry Hill just freaking scooting 484 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: and go all around the field, it was the same 485 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: story for his Chief's offense. We all know how insanely 486 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: talented all of these players are in this league. Right 487 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: to see a guy like Cheetah get out on that 488 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: field and watch him make cornerbacks, let alone linebackers look 489 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: absolutely foolish, like they have no business being on the 490 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: field with him, is mind blowing. That guy has another 491 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: gear that's on top of everybody else. It's kind of 492 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: like when you watch Lamar Jackson as a quarterback and 493 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: he's running an open field and you're just like, man, 494 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks aren't supposed to move like this. Wide receivers are 495 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: supposed to have moves like this, but he is that 496 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: next level. And so not only having that guy who's 497 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: able to wiggle get open make you look stupid out 498 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 1: in open field and pick up another twenty yards. On 499 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: top of that, when you're running around and you've got 500 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: giant Travis Kelsey who's able to go snag everything and 501 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: run people over like that tandem of Tyreek Hill and 502 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is just lethal. So the fact that you're 503 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: running game with Durrell Williams and Mikole Hardman and Clyde 504 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: Edwards a layer. They didn't really have to do a 505 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: ton for me. The feeling with this team is you 506 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: can stop one, but we've got two or three more 507 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: that are out there in open field and good luck. 508 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: And that's where this Tampa stopping a Davante Adams and 509 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: letting the other guys do what they're gonna do that 510 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: that's not going to work this way because of the 511 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: amount of ridiculous playmakers that have at every single level 512 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: and the fact that you have to get a pass 513 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: rush on Mahomes in order to try to stop it. 514 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: And other than that, I mean, you are going to 515 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: be having to play a shootout game against these Chiefs 516 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: if you're the Bucks coming up in the Super Bowl, 517 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: and I think whatever they do try to figure out 518 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: in their game planning to try to combat this man, 519 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: good luck, because it is a very very difficult thing 520 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: to do. Jay, to your point, you didn't even bring 521 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: up Sammy Watkins like what he can do, but in 522 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: in you know, in opposition to what you're saying, the 523 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: Buccaneers like their weapons. Also, like if you're an NFL fan, 524 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: this is the perfect super Bowl, Like there are like 525 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: this is there are so many storylines, so many things 526 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 1: to talk about Antonio Brown, Leonard, for Nette Ronald like 527 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: there are so many takes on both sides of the ball. 528 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: And for me, the thing is is in a league 529 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: that has kind of pivoted and shifted to become more 530 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: of a high flying passing league, you've got the old 531 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: goat versus the new goat. And I just think either 532 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: it's going to be Tom Brady absolutely cementing with an 533 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: absolute steel door that he is and will be the 534 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: greatest of our generation, let alone for the next potentially 535 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: forty fifty years, or you've got the passing of the 536 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: baton to the new dog, who's going to be sitting 537 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: there saying I love what you did and I've paid 538 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: attention to your career. But man, this is my league now. 539 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: I just think what that's going to potentially turn into 540 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: and the storylines everyone's going to talk about it. But 541 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: like you said, I mean, there's so many weapons that 542 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: we haven't even touched on. I just think it's got 543 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: to be super exciting for the league to be able 544 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: to promote this thing coming up here in the next 545 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. So it was a super fun game. 546 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: It's super exciting to see how this is going to go. 547 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: I feel bad for the Bills and their fans, like 548 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: you said, Corso, but you know, Josh Allen didn't look comfortable, 549 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: and I think the Chiefs defense made it look that way. 550 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: So the Chiefs in the box. It's going to be 551 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: an amazing super Bowl coming up here. Three hundred twenty 552 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: five passing yards three touchdowns for Patrick Mahomes, one hundred 553 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: seventy two receiving yards for Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey had 554 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: thirteen receptions, one hundred and eighteen receiving yards and two touchdowns. 555 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: You can start to go down the list. It's like 556 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: they have the perfect skill position players. I haven't even 557 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: talked about the running backs and Clyde Edwards Hilaire who 558 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: was injured heading into this game. He had a rushing touchdown. 559 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: And then Durrell Williams, who's pretty much a backup running back, 560 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: who had a touchdown in fifty two rushing yards. But Gabe, 561 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: I can't help think about the time that Patrick Mahomes 562 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: played Tom Brady in the AFC Championship a few years ago, 563 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: and it looked like the Chiefs we're going to go 564 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. If it wasn't for de Ford, 565 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: the defensive end for the Kansas City Chiefs, jumping on 566 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: a Tom Brady interception, they would have been the Chiefs 567 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl. And obviously it ended up 568 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: being the Patriots and they went on to beat the 569 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams and that Super Bowl. But I think 570 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Gabe probably thinks about that game as he's 571 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: heading into this Super Bowl. Oh. Absolutely, like this not 572 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: only solidifies that he is the best quarterback in the NFL. 573 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,959 Speaker 1: But like this takes him over the top of like 574 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: superstar him, Like he's a superstar. But if you beat 575 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady in a super Bowl where everyone is watching, 576 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: because you know, during the times that we are in 577 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: right now, I think this takes him over the top. 578 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: I think my next question for him is, like when 579 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: are you going to start getting bored? Because like, like 580 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: what's fun anymore? But switching the other side, Tom Brady 581 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: if he wins this super Bowl right like he's in 582 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: the conversation for Grady's Athlete ever, like I I mean, 583 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: you can't. I don't know, man, Like I'm getting excited 584 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: to talk about it and I'm like losing words, Like 585 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: this is like literally the perfect matchup for the Super Bowl, 586 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Like you can't ask for anything better than this. New 587 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: school versus old school. J just hit it right on 588 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: the head. So I'm expecting a showdown. I'm expecting a 589 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: lot of points to be scored. I mean, with everything 590 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: you just said about Tyreek Hill and Travis Keltzi U, 591 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: Devin White and Lavonte David for the for the Tampa 592 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: Big Buccaneers going to have their hands full and it's 593 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: gonna be m you know, are we're gonna see it, 594 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, another false start by the Chiefs on tom 595 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: Brady interception this time. I feel like that's what it's 596 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: going to come down to. One play like you like, 597 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady doesn't, doesn't choking games like this, and we've 598 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: seen what Pat Mahomes doesn't big games also, So there 599 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: are so many things to talk about, and I'm expecting 600 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: the big game. They need Anton Winfield Junior act in 601 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: the biggest way for the upcoming game. And on top 602 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: of that, once again, piggyback off what you said, think 603 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: about the fact of what Tom Brady just did. He 604 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: left the New England Patriots went to the Tampa Bay Bucks, 605 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: who were eight and eight, but also where they struggled 606 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: was at the quarterback position. Was Jamis throwing as many 607 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: touchdowns as picks in the previous season, walking into a 608 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: new offense and basically taking them on top of rookies, 609 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: including a guy like Tyler Johnson who has definitely had 610 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: a couple moments here in the playoffs, and taking those guys, 611 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: solidifying them, bringing in for Nett during the season and 612 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: just kind of hodgepotting this team together and then saying 613 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: this is my time going through his first Wildcard game 614 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: and forever, if not ever, and getting to the super 615 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: Bowl with another franchise in the first season. The closest 616 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: we got to seeing something like this was two thousand 617 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: and nine with five, but they didn't get the money, 618 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: they didn't get to the super Bowl. If Brady does 619 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: and goes to where he did with the Patriots struggling 620 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: the way they did, it shuts up the conversation forever, 621 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: and it just further cements the fact that what he's 622 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: doing in his career is special. And whether whether he's 623 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,959 Speaker 1: broken your heart, you don't like it or not, it 624 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. The fact of what he's doing is 625 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: something special and we should all feel kind of proud 626 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: and happy about the fact that we're actually getting to 627 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: watch history when it comes to the football side. So, Gabe, 628 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: if he's not the best athlete ever, he will solidify 629 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: it and has in my mind, solidified himself as the 630 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: most successful athlete ever when it comes to the sport 631 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: of NFL football. Oh and he for sure he won't 632 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: be like Peyton Manning when he won his Super Bowl 633 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: in his forties. So he's not right enough to the 634 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: sunset he's trying to get eight, so we'll see. We'll 635 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: see what happens there, but I can't see Tom Brady 636 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: hanging it up after this year. Growing up as a 637 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: New York Jets fan, I can't say that I've loved 638 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: that has happened in this guy's career, but I did 639 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: enjoy seeing him do it in another uniform other than 640 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: the rival that I grew up despising every single year, 641 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: and that's for sure. But like you guys said, it's 642 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: one of the one of the most interesting, intriguing matchups 643 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: in recent memory. I can't even imagine having a more 644 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: perfect storyline heading into the biggest game in all sports. 645 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited for that to come up. We 646 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: obviously have some off time here for the Vikings, but 647 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: before we go, we're gonna look at some way too 648 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: early mock drafts. As we've talked about, we have four 649 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: mock drafts, four experts who picked for the Vikings at 650 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: the number four team pick. This is what Vikings fans 651 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: have to get excited about. I know I'm excited about it. 652 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: I personally think they go with the defensive end just 653 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: because the fact that we were really missing that pass 654 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: rush of this season, and Mike Zimmer probably won't let 655 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: the front office staff go without getting his defensive player 656 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: at this spot. That is the whether Daniel Jeremiah went. 657 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: He went with the edge rusher Gregory Rousseau at the 658 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: University of Miami, and I've watched. I watched every single 659 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: Miami game this year because one of my best friends 660 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: went there, and I just enjoyed the run that they 661 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: went on this season. This guy is an absolute beast. 662 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: If you're talking about an athletic guy like Daniel Hunter 663 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: coming out of college, I think this guy fits into 664 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: that category. He's the reason why a week Miami defense 665 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: in the secondary this year had some success because of 666 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: the pass rush he was able to put on the 667 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: quarterback this year. So, um, Gabe, what do you know 668 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: about Gregory Russeau out of the University of Miami. Yeah, 669 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: I've watched a little bit of his tape and I 670 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: mean he I feel like he's very raw. Six six 671 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: two sixty five, right, yeah, like six six two sixty five. 672 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he does what he needs to do. But 673 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: I think a guy, if he was elected, I think 674 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: a guy like Andre Pattison will be perfect for him 675 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: to refine some of his techniques. I mean, we saw 676 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: a Daniel Hunter when he came out. I mean I 677 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: think he only had what four and a half sacks 678 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: in his career at LSU, and saying what he did 679 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: for the Vikings and then you got a similar body, 680 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: a similar body frame and Gregory Rousseau who's played some 681 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: big time college football, and is you know, able to 682 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,240 Speaker 1: get to the quarterback. But you can see on film 683 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: that he can continue to work his hips, he can 684 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: continue you can tell his technique isn't there with his 685 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: hand placement. He just he's just bigger than everybody. He 686 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: just dominates everybody off the ball, and I mean it's 687 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: just one of those things where you know, if he's 688 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: getting a straight pass rush, he can reach over the 689 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: offensive tackle's arm and you know, grab the quarterback because 690 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: he's taller and bigger than everybody. But I think there's 691 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: gonna be some refining to his game. He's very raw, 692 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: he's very long, he's very edgy, and he has a 693 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: knack to get to the quarterback. So I think with 694 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: that knack to get to the quarterback, with his physical traits, 695 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: I think there's a future star in the making. If 696 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: he drops to the fourteenth overall pick. Yeah, Miami had 697 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: an incredible season. I mean they only lost the game 698 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 1: early to Clemson, and they pretty much took a seven 699 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: and one record into that last game of the season 700 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: and against North Carolina which they were not able to 701 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: play well in at the end there, which but definitely 702 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: a great season for him on the Miami Hurricanes defensive line. 703 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking at Pro Football Focus and they have a 704 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: defensive lineman out of the University of Michigan, Quitty pay 705 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: Who I mean, I watched a decent amount of Michigan 706 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: football as well. We all watched Big Ten being in 707 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: Minnesota throughout the year, and I know this guy can 708 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: rush the quarterback as well. Jah. Yeah, that's the thing. 709 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 1: Like you saw with Michigan this year, they were a 710 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: little more buzzy than they have been crushed the Gophers. 711 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: That's the stent. So like for me, you know, Michigan, 712 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: I as a kid, I grew up a Michigan fan. Yeah, 713 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: I'm from Minnesota, but I grew up a Michigan fan 714 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: due to other reasons long story longer. Basically and being 715 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: able to watch some of their games even this year. 716 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: One of the things you saw was they did have 717 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: a little bit more of a defensive presence, and for 718 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 1: a guy like this, a defensive edge rusher. What this 719 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: says to me is, think about the last couple of 720 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: drafts and what we've done the last couple of years. 721 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: You went from basically four or five years ago having 722 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: some top notch guys like Everson and Jared and then 723 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: bring in a denial and letting them ascend into what 724 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: they've turned into. This just points out to me the 725 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 1: fact that we're seeing some of these big name guys. 726 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: We've talked about this at the end of last season. 727 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: We talked about it during the season that we're going 728 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: to need to kind of restock and refuel some of 729 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: these positions, and you know, by going ahead and grabbing 730 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: a guy like DJ want him that we felt was 731 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: a project last year, but he did show up in 732 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: a couple of games, including that that big sack that 733 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: he had against the Green Bay Packers. I think having 734 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: guys like pay and being able to possibly revamp with 735 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: these young guys like this, this is potentially setting us 736 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: up for you know, probably close to a decade. If 737 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: you hit on a two or three of these big 738 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: name guys and allow them to do what they do 739 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: and rotate in. I think it would be a lot 740 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: of fun to see some sort of a big defensive 741 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: edge rusher being able to come in here and not 742 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 1: only work with, but grow with guys like Daniel Hunter 743 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: and Wilikis and want him and some of these other 744 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 1: guys we grabbed last year. I said it here first, 745 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: Quity Pay is the most pro ready defensive end in 746 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: the draft class this year. Like when you look at 747 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: him on film, he can pretty much do everything you 748 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: need him to do. I mean he's quick with his hips, 749 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean he can get around the corner. He understands 750 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: the game, he has different he uses different techniques to 751 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: get around the tackle. Like if you put on the 752 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: tape of this guy, he is ready to play him. 753 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: But this Vikings defense, I think you need somebody who is, 754 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: you know, a high motor guy opposite of Daniel Hunter, 755 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: because I feel like a fidio o'denibo plays better when 756 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: the pressure isn't on him. But when you put those 757 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: four guys him quitd he Pay, Daniel Hunter and DJ 758 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: want him together, I feel like this is a complete unit. Yeah, 759 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: that's a lot to say for a guy who you 760 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: think is absolutely game ready for the NFL coming out 761 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: of college. I mean, I did see a decent amount 762 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: of his tape and what he was able to do 763 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: at Michigan, and I know he stands out on the 764 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: screen when you're watching the game, that's for sure. Looking 765 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: at some of the other picks here we have CBS Sports, 766 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: they took a linebacker, which obviously, with all the contracts 767 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 1: that the Vikings have to look at in this offseason, 768 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: you never know what's going to happen at that linebacker position. 769 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: We know Eric Kendricks and Eric Wilson played real well. 770 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: Eric Wilson's contract is up, so we'll have to keep 771 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,320 Speaker 1: an eye on what happens at that at that position 772 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: with Eric Wilson because he was such a key part 773 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: of what the Vikings did and Anthony Barr was injured 774 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: all year. But Micah Parsons linebacker at a Penn State, 775 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm pretty familiar with him as well. With the success 776 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: that Penn State has had years passed. This year Penn 777 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: State wasn't so great. Their defense was definitely better than 778 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: their offense. But I know Michael Parsons game is probably 779 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: one of the best linebackers are regarded as one of 780 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: the best linebackers in the nation. Yeah, and I feel 781 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: like he fits more into a three four scheme. I 782 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: see a lot of traction of him going to the 783 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, but I think if he played here, they 784 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: will probably trying to move him to the defensive van position. 785 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: Really good motor, very explosive. He makes me when I 786 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: think of him, I think of a guy like Von Miller, 787 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: you know, not the tallest guy, but it's long and rangy, 788 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: and it's very savvy with his hands. So he's a 789 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: He's a guy right there that could actually make a 790 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: lot of plays. I mean in that Penn State defense, 791 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, they they're very multiple. But I could see 792 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons being well thriving in a three four system, 793 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: and if he does here, it'll be at that defensive 794 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: van position. Yeah. They have him listed a six three, 795 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty five pounds at the age of 796 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: twenty one, So I can't even imagine what kind of 797 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: player this guy can be. I know, he flies around 798 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: the field as well, and he's super athletic, so that 799 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: would be quite the addition to the Vikings linebacker unit. 800 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: The last pick is from melk Hyper and I saved 801 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: this one for last because everyone pretty much when they 802 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: see what Nope Kuiper has to say, they think there's 803 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: a chance that it might happen for the Vikings. So 804 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: he goes offensive line USC Elijah Vera Tucker definitely one 805 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: of the best offensive lineman prospects in the nation. I 806 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: know we're talking defense right now, though I want to 807 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: see a defensive player taken at this position. We know 808 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: that Brian O'Neill is pretty much stapled in at the 809 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: right tackle spot for the Vikings, and you have an 810 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: elder Riley Reith, who had some contract situation go on 811 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: last offseason, was able to hang on at the left 812 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: tackle spot. But I know the Vikings really need help 813 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,280 Speaker 1: at that interior spot Jay, and that's where I think 814 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 1: this guy might be able to help. Yeah, And that's 815 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: kind of where a lot of people are pegging him. 816 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: He's he's six foot four or three hundred and fifteen pounds. 817 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: He started as a left tackle and slid inside to 818 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: guard as well at USC, So he's got position and flexibility, 819 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: which is something the Vikings always love to have. And 820 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: having a guy like that at the size that he is, 821 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: and you know, to be honest with you, I haven't 822 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: seen enough USC football or paid attention to him this season. 823 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: But the thing is is, if he can move in space, 824 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: which is what they love to do with those interior linemen, 825 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: that's going to be something that they're gonna have to 826 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: take a long, hard look at. Yeah, coach is gonna 827 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: want to get some of his top flight defensive guys. 828 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: But if you're telling me that some top prospects that 829 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: offensive line are going to be potentially sitting there, given 830 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: the amount of speculation that's already been happening about positions 831 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: in front of us getting eaten up by quarterback picks 832 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, you're going to see some top 833 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: tier talent possibly sliding down to that early mid round 834 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: of the first round. So hopefully with the Vikings, they've 835 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: they've got a plethora of talent that they can pick from, 836 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: and a guy like this with Vera Tucker, I think 837 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,480 Speaker 1: he would definitely fit the bill. If they feel like 838 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: he's the right guy, they could definitely pull the trigger. 839 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: And I don't think anyone in Viking Land, including the 840 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: front office, would be probably sad about the fact that 841 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: they grabbed a guy like that with this pedigree coming 842 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: out of USC six four three hundred fifteen pounds. He 843 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: lists him as either a guard or a tackle. I 844 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: think he put a lot more guard at USC, but 845 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,799 Speaker 1: I think mel Kiper sees him kind of fitting in 846 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: to the guard position and maybe a long term answer 847 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: at the left tackle position. So he can pretty much 848 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: play all around the Vikings offensive line. And the biggest 849 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: thing he says is that he's a great run blocker game. 850 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched a lot of USC 851 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: football this year, but um mel Kiper lists him as 852 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: a great run blocker. Yeah, I havn't watched too much 853 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: of his games. I watched a little bit of his film, 854 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 1: and he's very good in space. I mean, he's very 855 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: good at getting to the second level. And USC did 856 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: a lot of zone. They have a great I mean, 857 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 1: of course they run the spray, but they do a 858 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 1: lot of zone run blocking, and I think that fits 859 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,399 Speaker 1: perfectly with what we have done in the past. Here. 860 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: We don't know who the new offensive coordinator is going 861 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: to be, so we don't know how things are going 862 00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: to change. But he is very good in space, like 863 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: you said, Like Jay said, he's moved to guard and 864 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: he's done great job. He's done a great job there, 865 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: I think at the same time, he's a really good 866 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 1: pass blocker. Also, a lot of people don't give him 867 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: enough credit for his past blocking. I mean, he did 868 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: a great job at at USC and now moving him 869 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 1: to the inside where there's less space to cover, I 870 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: think there's a great opportunity for him to succeed in 871 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 1: this Vikings offense, both run blocking and pass blocking. It's 872 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: always fun to track the names that some of the 873 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: experts nationally pick for the Vikings. I mean, I love 874 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: doing it. I love college football. I've been watching a 875 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: ton of it ever since I started working in the 876 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: NFL because Saturday is our a one to all page week, 877 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: so I always enjoy watching these guys, and I think 878 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: Gabe and Jay have have knowledge of some of these prospects. 879 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: So I'm really excited to see at the Vikings go 880 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: either offense or defense, because obviously there's needs on both 881 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: sides of the line for the Minnesota Vikings, but there 882 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: will be a lot to track, including the offensive coordinators. 883 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: Search we will see who will fill the spot of 884 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: the legendary Gary Kubiak at that position. Continue to check 885 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: out all Vikings social media platforms for breaking news this offseason, 886 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 1: whether it's free agency, the draft, team news, transactions, more. 887 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 1: We have you all covered on all of our platforms 888 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: on everything you need to know at Vikings dot com. 889 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: So thank you Jay, thank you Gabe. We will see 890 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 1: you next time on the Minnesota Vikings Podcast