Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back to the awful Kimbo Camper. John
Speaker 1: con Jemmy with you. John here we are about Yeah,
Speaker 1: we like three months into this deal already, I think,
Speaker 1: so right out there about it feels like it. It
Speaker 1: feels like it's one of those things where, um, you
Speaker 1: think you're coming out of it and you're closer, but
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're still trying to do all the
Speaker 1: right things. So, yeah, we've been in this situation for
Speaker 1: a long time and hopefully we're we're starting to see
Speaker 1: a little bit more light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like I'm half in, half out, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, you know I've been I've been
Speaker 1: you know, hold up for so long and you know,
Speaker 1: jumped in a car and drove the Illinois for fifteen
Speaker 1: car right up and back and and did that. And
Speaker 1: so now I'm like, okay, I'm kind of done with
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. And I've actually gone out to
Speaker 1: a couple of restaurants that have opened up locally, and
Speaker 1: so that's kind of my splurts, going out to a restaurant,
Speaker 1: and you know, instead of going to the grocery store
Speaker 1: buying groceries, having to cook them, having to clean up afterwards.
Speaker 1: Um sneaking out to a restaurant and just said, hey,
Speaker 1: here's my credit card, you do all the work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what that I actually actually did that for
Speaker 1: the first time. And I don't know how long I
Speaker 1: guess two and a half three months and um and
Speaker 1: and it was a good experience. And it was good
Speaker 1: to you know, see people out and and going and
Speaker 1: trying to support local businesses and going out and kind
Speaker 1: of kind of selfishly doing it for yourself to to
Speaker 1: get back out and to get back in the community
Speaker 1: and kind of feel some sense of normalcy, you know,
Speaker 1: even though things were a lot different. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: the occupancy wasn't quite at fifty or seventy five percent,
Speaker 1: but at least you felt like you were doing something
Speaker 1: out in the community and it it felt good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so we're we're kind of getting there and along
Speaker 1: the lines, you know, there's a lot of talk. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about a lot of things today on the show,
Speaker 1: but you know, one of the things we'll talk about, certainly,
Speaker 1: Steven Ross on Tuesday, UH came out and said that
Speaker 1: the NFL will play that the uh the He's optimistic
Speaker 1: that the NFL season is gonna go on his planned.
Speaker 1: And you know everyone's been asking me, John, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you you run across the same thing, whether whether you're
Speaker 1: talking to people on the phone or whether you're running
Speaker 1: into somebody somewhere or whatever. Are they gonna play? Are
Speaker 1: they gonna play? And And my answer so far, John,
Speaker 1: for everybody has been well, look, the only thing I
Speaker 1: can tell you is this, the league is going through
Speaker 1: their business as if they're planning on business as usual. Now,
Speaker 1: when I say business as usual, that that doesn't include O,
Speaker 1: T A S. Mini camps and those things, I kind
Speaker 1: of take it down to, look, if you had, if
Speaker 1: you don't have any of those things, that you and
Speaker 1: you start training camps as you normally do late in July,
Speaker 1: that that the season will go on as expected. And
Speaker 1: I think Mr Ross kind of kind of put that
Speaker 1: out there for everyone, and um, and I don't make
Speaker 1: me feel good, John. And and along with that, you
Speaker 1: know the other thing that you know this this week Thursday,
Speaker 1: the Premier League, UH, the European League of Soccer, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna return June seventeen with with a slate of
Speaker 1: games remainder of their schedule to play. Um, So, John,
Speaker 1: we're starting to see things come around. Are we feeling
Speaker 1: really good that the NFL can be on that path?
Speaker 1: But I think the NFL and John, I think we
Speaker 1: we that are you know, involved with the NFL and
Speaker 1: doing what we do. Um. The good thing is, you know,
Speaker 1: there weren't a season that was in the middle of
Speaker 1: the season. They didn't have to stop. They went around
Speaker 1: business as usual. And they've got the they've got the
Speaker 1: the opportunity to have time that that extra time that
Speaker 1: late July started the training camps, boy, has done them
Speaker 1: a big favor as other teams have suffered with stopping
Speaker 1: seasons in between. How are we going to resume? What
Speaker 1: are you gonna put the other? And I know the
Speaker 1: NHL has got got there deal lined up. So um,
Speaker 1: I think I'm kind of like Ross Mr Ross John
Speaker 1: as Farez, be very optimistic that that that this season
Speaker 1: is going to start on as regular away as possible.
Speaker 1: I think so. And I think you hit it perfectly
Speaker 1: both when you say at the right time, at the
Speaker 1: right time for the NFL, because it happened during the
Speaker 1: off season, and it happened during kind of a law
Speaker 1: in the off season, and you were able to still
Speaker 1: continue to to really go on schedule because you're able
Speaker 1: to find the draft and free agency and and sign
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents and be able to do stuff online
Speaker 1: for O t a s and be able to get
Speaker 1: together as a team and find ways to kind of
Speaker 1: circumvent the issues of the world and still be able to,
Speaker 1: you know, care for your family, care for one another,
Speaker 1: but be able to do your job and be able
Speaker 1: to do it at a level where in the NFL
Speaker 1: you didn't see it affect the bottom line in terms
Speaker 1: of where the owners are, where the league is, where
Speaker 1: the teams are. In effect that the calendar, So the
Speaker 1: NFL kind of went as seamlessly as they could go
Speaker 1: on and be able to do things they needed to
Speaker 1: do to prepare themselves for now five weeks which would
Speaker 1: have been more of a dead period in their calendar anyway,
Speaker 1: once the O t a s finished, and now get
Speaker 1: ready for the season. So I think Mr ross Is
Speaker 1: is right and saying, you know, the NFL has a
Speaker 1: plan for the season now, whether that's going to be
Speaker 1: kicked off at the exact same time right now, it is,
Speaker 1: and right now they have a plan for it, and
Speaker 1: they have a plan for fans. They have a plan
Speaker 1: for the teams getting together in late July for training camp.
Speaker 1: So all those protocols are being put in place. And
Speaker 1: I think that you know, Mr Ross echoed those sentiments
Speaker 1: as an owner, as one of those thirty two owners
Speaker 1: in the proper way. Yeah, and it's um, you know,
Speaker 1: it gives fans hope, but they're they're moving forward, Joe,
Speaker 1: John h though, John is you know you know that
Speaker 1: the question to me, the question now becomes next season,
Speaker 1: next season, and and and and salary cap wise, you know,
Speaker 1: if you have you know, I know, I know the
Speaker 1: Dolphins have in place, uh a system whereas you could
Speaker 1: you could have about fifteen thousand fans in hard Rock Stadium,
Speaker 1: uh coming in safely, leading safely seated safely to watch
Speaker 1: to watch games. But John, that's that's taken. You know
Speaker 1: what ut thousand fans out of the equation, what's says
Speaker 1: stadium hold now they dropped down to So you know
Speaker 1: that's so that So the point being that I'm kind
Speaker 1: of getting to John, is, but when you start kind
Speaker 1: of looking beyond the hurah and of this season and
Speaker 1: what implications a season without fans or with limited fans
Speaker 1: for all are part of the season. How does that
Speaker 1: affect the salary cap next year? Especially you've got guys
Speaker 1: out there that are maybe holding out a little bit
Speaker 1: on franchise tags, all those all those things that they
Speaker 1: certainly have to consider. What what the salary cap is
Speaker 1: gonna be next year without people in the stands or
Speaker 1: without the revenue that it's coming to. They're still gonna
Speaker 1: get plenty of television revenue that that's big. It's gonna
Speaker 1: remain open. But when it comes to fans and concessions
Speaker 1: and all those types of things, well, that's that's gonna
Speaker 1: be something to uh some to see how the league
Speaker 1: manages that going forward. Well, I'm sure that behind the
Speaker 1: scenes there's a plan in place for just about everything,
Speaker 1: and I think it's probably been bantered about over the
Speaker 1: past month and a half two months. And the and
Speaker 1: the best thing for the NFL, as we said at
Speaker 1: the at the start of this conversation, is they have
Speaker 1: time on their side. They still have another month and
Speaker 1: a half at least until training camp is gonna start. Now,
Speaker 1: what does that happen? How how does the health of
Speaker 1: society and how UH is the medical teams that are
Speaker 1: all working on on issues or resolutions for what we've
Speaker 1: been dealing with over the past two and a half
Speaker 1: three months with COVID nineteen. So I think that time
Speaker 1: is still on the NFL side in terms of planning
Speaker 1: for twelve thousand, fifteen thousand, possibly thirty, possibly forty five
Speaker 1: or or a full house. You know, I think everything's
Speaker 1: on the table in terms of how they're going to
Speaker 1: approach it, and in different areas of the country might
Speaker 1: be affected differently, you know, in terms of their of
Speaker 1: their attendance. You know, right now, the state of Florida,
Speaker 1: you know, selfishly is doing fairly well when you look
Speaker 1: around the country and you look around at the numbers,
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, with Jacksonville and Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: and obviously the Miami Dolphins here, they're looking at maybe
Speaker 1: a better situation than than some other parts of the country. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look at California and it looks like most of
Speaker 1: those teams are gonna have to find at least if
Speaker 1: if it remains the status quo in that state, the
Speaker 1: teams in that state are gonna have to find somewhere
Speaker 1: else to go to training camp because the governor there
Speaker 1: says we're not gonna do it. We're not gonna have
Speaker 1: it until until we feel so you know, I know
Speaker 1: you've got You've got all those other teams, the forty
Speaker 1: Niners and the Chargers and the Rams all kind of
Speaker 1: looking around and saying, hey, where where can we go
Speaker 1: if and when training camps start out here. So they
Speaker 1: certainly have some dormos on the hands. But look, these
Speaker 1: teams travel enough. They've been on the road, they've been
Speaker 1: to training camps on the road, they've scrimmaged other teams
Speaker 1: on the road. I think it's a minor nuisance, uh,
Speaker 1: for most of these teams. And and and and in some cases,
Speaker 1: if you go away to training camp, like a lot
Speaker 1: of teams always used to do, and and there's still
Speaker 1: a handful of teams that that do go elsewhere, um,
Speaker 1: it gives you that opportunity to bond, especially since you
Speaker 1: haven't had o k s and mini camps or will
Speaker 1: have not had oks and mini camps. There's still that
Speaker 1: you know, you can do these zoom meetings and all
Speaker 1: these types of things, but until you get together with
Speaker 1: your teammates, actually see them, work with them, get to
Speaker 1: normal because there's been so there's such a turn over
Speaker 1: in every team in the league every year. Uh, getting
Speaker 1: reacquainted with your team and bonding is something that needs
Speaker 1: to be done. And look, maybe those teams that have
Speaker 1: to travel somewhere to go to training camp, maybe that's
Speaker 1: an extra bonus for him. Right. Yeah, you never know
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen, and it's still time on the side
Speaker 1: of the team's out in California, But it sure looks
Speaker 1: a lot better for other states like Georgia and Florida,
Speaker 1: and maybe more of the southern states, because it seems
Speaker 1: like the majority of the COVID nineteen cases and and
Speaker 1: the severities of of what's gone and what's transpired by
Speaker 1: this virus has happened in the Northeast and and maybe
Speaker 1: out west in California. So you're hoping and praying for
Speaker 1: everybody around the country and around the world, but you're
Speaker 1: you're selfishly when it comes back to our profession and
Speaker 1: what we love to do on a daily basis is
Speaker 1: talk about the Miami Dolphins and talk about but you know,
Speaker 1: the football season coming up. It looks it looks more
Speaker 1: promising than it did a month ago, and hopefully at
Speaker 1: the end of June it'll look even better than than
Speaker 1: the goggles were wearing right now at the Nay in
Speaker 1: early June along the lines too. You know what you
Speaker 1: talked about, Mr Ross, It just came out with an
Speaker 1: initiative with from the team that uh, they're gonna provide
Speaker 1: a thousand meals, Uh, a thousand meals a day, thousand
Speaker 1: meals a week. What is it, John, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what the thousand meals? Yeah, each Sunday, I think Sunday, yes, Uh,
Speaker 1: going forward through the season and uh, which you know
Speaker 1: he's already you know, he's already laid out plenty of
Speaker 1: money to help feed South Florida and help this community.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, congratulations to him and kudos him
Speaker 1: for putting something else out there together. That's gonna allow
Speaker 1: people to need a lot of people who have food
Speaker 1: but once a week have a thousand meals delivered until
Speaker 1: they need to stop. And that's quite a commitment from
Speaker 1: a guy that's already committed a lot of money, uh
Speaker 1: to this entire community down here. He's done a terrific
Speaker 1: job and you have to echo that with the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins Foundation along with Mr Ross, it's a multimillion dollar
Speaker 1: you know, major gift commitment through the Foundation of the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. They're gonna provide jobs, They're gonna provide long
Speaker 1: term you know, food opportunities a minimum of a thousand
Speaker 1: meals prepared by by the team's partner, Center Plate. So
Speaker 1: there's a lot of really good things going on in
Speaker 1: the community. And Mr Ross and the Miami Dolphins and
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins Foundation are right in the in the
Speaker 1: center of all that news, which is great. How about
Speaker 1: how about the how about the and this is a
Speaker 1: Tom This is got Tom Garfinkel stamped all over it
Speaker 1: the drive in movie theater. Yeah, exactly, that was that's great.
Speaker 1: You know, Tom has done a lot of really good
Speaker 1: things for this organization since he's been here. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know that last thing when we're there for the
Speaker 1: d C C. John, you know, and I knew it
Speaker 1: was going up, but I didn't definitely really. He's got
Speaker 1: the I don't know what you called the gondola rod, Yes,
Speaker 1: gondola ride and goes across the a parking lot area
Speaker 1: where you can get a good bird's eye view of everything.
Speaker 1: Now you've gotta you know, you got the tennis tournament
Speaker 1: when the Major Tennis tournaments in the world to hard
Speaker 1: Rock Stadium, and uh, you've got uh Formula one now
Speaker 1: depending on what goes on, but it looks like Formula
Speaker 1: one is gonna be making one racing at hard Rock Stadium.
Speaker 1: And then now you can, uh you know what, you
Speaker 1: can go watch The Exorcist on in your car sitting
Speaker 1: in the middle of the stadium. How about that. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. It looks like a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. You're gonna be able to relive games,
Speaker 1: exciting moments from Dolphins uh past, you know, glorious history
Speaker 1: in terms of being able to watch those things on
Speaker 1: the big screen and then pull up and watch a
Speaker 1: movie as well. So a lot of exciting, a lot
Speaker 1: of excitement around the stadium. And there's so much you
Speaker 1: can do at hard Rock Stadium. You know. You mentioned
Speaker 1: the tennis and hopefully it'll be coming back in its
Speaker 1: normal time slot next season and next year, and you
Speaker 1: have the Formula one and you have all the excitement
Speaker 1: around the d c C. So the hard Rock Stadium
Speaker 1: really the heartbeat for the Miami Dolphins and what they
Speaker 1: can do not only with with the Dolphins as a
Speaker 1: football team, but in the community as well, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just you know, it amazes me the creativity, uh that
Speaker 1: this organization has done. You know when when Mr Ross
Speaker 1: committed the money to redoing that stadium and getting it
Speaker 1: to a to a level where you can host super Bowls.
Speaker 1: And by the way, they get a fantas pastic job
Speaker 1: with the Super Bowl last year, and I think everyone's
Speaker 1: anxious to get back here. But all the all that
Speaker 1: he's done, it really, it really is is um. I
Speaker 1: just don't see anyone in the league being is creative
Speaker 1: with their building and with their space as uh as
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have. And so congratulations to them for forgetting
Speaker 1: all that done. They getting back to little football. John Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm I'm popping up reading, you know,
Speaker 1: like everyone else, reading everything I can read and this
Speaker 1: and that, and all of a sudden you pops up
Speaker 1: with Chris Sims talking about the top forty quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the in the National Football League going into the season,
Speaker 1: and and kind of I kind of was put kind
Speaker 1: of set aside, step back a little bit when I
Speaker 1: saw that he uh he ranked to a ton of
Speaker 1: viola in the league in best quarterbacks. Now, you know,
Speaker 1: he kind of points to the injury situation, but injury
Speaker 1: situation or not quarterback and leave John Guy's a fifth
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, and quite frankly, had he not
Speaker 1: been injured last year, he probably would have been the
Speaker 1: first pick in the draft. How do you go from
Speaker 1: that to have him? And I'm not gonna take any
Speaker 1: shots at Chris Simms, you know, but yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: pretty harsh prediction. I'm looking at the bottom of the
Speaker 1: list and you have Dwayne Haskins and Mitchell Trabinsky and
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert and ranked him. Yeah, Jason Hill, he's not
Speaker 1: He's not ranked above him on our depth chart, and
Speaker 1: yet he's above him on Chris Simms the top forty.
Speaker 1: So that tells you a little bit about the top four.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I would venture to guess that, uh, that
Speaker 1: during his career Chris Simms was swimming around number forty.
Speaker 1: Also on the on the list, I would go, well,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of bodies around around forty, let's
Speaker 1: put it that way, and I was probably one of
Speaker 1: them myself. But to be honest with you, though, I
Speaker 1: really liked the opportunity of two uh and what he
Speaker 1: brings to to the roster because there's no urgency, and
Speaker 1: I think the coaching staff is taking it upon themselves
Speaker 1: in this mindset. If I could, if I could be
Speaker 1: that fly on the wall, this is what I would
Speaker 1: read into it. You have a quarterback that has been
Speaker 1: built to be a franchise quarterback for his entire career,
Speaker 1: ever since he's picked up a football, and they go,
Speaker 1: this kid's got a chance to be pretty good, right
Speaker 1: So you you build those that that system of leadership
Speaker 1: and and the way your accountability and and making people
Speaker 1: played beyond what they feel like they can be. This
Speaker 1: guy has that gene, so he's gonna be able to
Speaker 1: compete right away. And I think this coaching staff is
Speaker 1: gonna take the opportunity to give him every opportunity, just
Speaker 1: as they did Josh Rosen last year, and just as
Speaker 1: they did Ryan Fitzpatrick last year. They're gonna throw them
Speaker 1: all out there and say, whoever is the best guy
Speaker 1: is gonna play because we want to win it. And
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's to us. I don't care
Speaker 1: if it's Josh, and I don't care if it's Ryan.
Speaker 1: One of you guys are gonna win the job. But
Speaker 1: there's no urgency to push him to say, well, if
Speaker 1: it's close, we should start to it because I don't
Speaker 1: trust X Y or Z, you know, or we should
Speaker 1: really start him because we drafted him fifth overall. If
Speaker 1: he's the best guy, he's gonna play, and if he's not,
Speaker 1: he's gonna sit and learn. And he's gonna sit and
Speaker 1: learn from a fifteen year veteran who's been in multiple
Speaker 1: systems and that knows this system through playing five years
Speaker 1: with Shane Gaily. So there's a lot of positives, but
Speaker 1: I think that two has got the best opportunity, best
Speaker 1: of both worlds. If he's the if he's the guy
Speaker 1: that wins the job, he's gonna play, and if he's
Speaker 1: healthy enough, he's gonna play. But if he's not, if
Speaker 1: he doesn't win the job, it's going to be a
Speaker 1: gradual progression to win the job, because ultimately, that's why
Speaker 1: they draft him. He's going to play. Ultimately, it's just
Speaker 1: the timing of when no question about that. And to me,
Speaker 1: I mind, it's you know, the only thing that that
Speaker 1: to me, that that's an issue with him at all
Speaker 1: is his injury history, and and that that's it. I
Speaker 1: like I said to me, in my mind, had he
Speaker 1: not had. You know, even if he had that high
Speaker 1: ankle sprain that he had prior to having the hip
Speaker 1: injury and he finished, he still would have been, you know,
Speaker 1: either the first or second pick in the draft. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be. He was gonna be that guy anyway. The
Speaker 1: only reason eas Hel to the Dolphins at five was
Speaker 1: because of the hip situation. And I clearly understand that
Speaker 1: that that the thing that I that I kind of
Speaker 1: looked at with a with a crooked eye when I
Speaker 1: was reading the article about Chris Sims was him talking
Speaker 1: about He mentioned the injury, and I'm buying into that.
Speaker 1: With that, I can go with that, But the disparity
Speaker 1: between the athletes and he had in Alabama and the
Speaker 1: ones he's gonna play with with the Dolphins. Now, you know,
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm you know, if I'm Devonte Parker, Uh,
Speaker 1: if I'm Jachim Grant, if I'm Might Dressing, if I'm
Speaker 1: Preston Williams, if if if I'm any of those guys,
Speaker 1: you know, I gotta stick up my ask for Chris
Speaker 1: Simms now because of that, you know, saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: we don't have guys that are good as Alabama. Look
Speaker 1: Alabama had some phenomenal receivers, certainly the two that came
Speaker 1: out this year, we're incredible players. But but but let's
Speaker 1: not let's not overlook guys that are already in the
Speaker 1: NFL and have played in this league um as quality
Speaker 1: players and and and use that as a reason that
Speaker 1: to me is a little bit far fetched in my mind. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's not so much the talent
Speaker 1: that to have played with. It was the talent he
Speaker 1: played against on a weekly basis. Even though they're in
Speaker 1: the SEC, they were by far the better group. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe eleven out of thirteen times they lined up over
Speaker 1: the last five years, four years, ten years, right, So
Speaker 1: I think it's that that gap between the talent isn't
Speaker 1: really on the offensive side. It was who they were
Speaker 1: going against. And then you put that talent on offense
Speaker 1: and line up on a weekly basis that was probably
Speaker 1: scary for opposing college defenses. So I kind of agree
Speaker 1: with you there. But I think the Dolphins quite frankly offensively,
Speaker 1: have enough firepower on offense now to do some damage.
Speaker 1: I think they line up pretty well compared to when
Speaker 1: you look two years ago till last year to this year,
Speaker 1: uh coming back healthy, if if Preston can come back healthy,
Speaker 1: and I think if Wilson comes back healthy, which all
Speaker 1: counts he should be. You add that to the firepower
Speaker 1: that's already there and a new offense where you don't
Speaker 1: know where guys are gonna line up and and asked
Speaker 1: to do you know what they're gonna do with the
Speaker 1: backfield in terms of pass catchers now guys that have
Speaker 1: speed in space. This offense has a chance. If the
Speaker 1: offensive line can catch up to where we think they're
Speaker 1: gonna catch up and and what they've done in the
Speaker 1: draft in free agency, this has a chance to be
Speaker 1: one of the better Dolphin offenses in terms of on
Speaker 1: paper going into a season where you feel pretty confident
Speaker 1: about the group. In particular, if Preston Williams comes back
Speaker 1: and it begins at the level that he ended at.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean because while you talk about a
Speaker 1: guy that just kind of dropped out of nowhere, I
Speaker 1: mean a free agent that came in and don't expected
Speaker 1: anything or the end and John, I think it probably
Speaker 1: took about a week to ten days before I was going, hey,
Speaker 1: whoa this guy? What thatxt he doing? And then well,
Speaker 1: let's wait to see what he see what he does
Speaker 1: in the preseason games and did pretty well there early on,
Speaker 1: and they had like kind of stumbled towards the end
Speaker 1: of the preseason, but came back in the regular season
Speaker 1: and really proved to be uh the type of player
Speaker 1: that that you know, quite frankly played up to the
Speaker 1: level of a second or third round receiver in my mind,
Speaker 1: if not better than that during the course he played,
Speaker 1: while he played before he got injured. Well, if he
Speaker 1: comes back, um, now, he could really be a difference
Speaker 1: acre in that on this football team, but in particular
Speaker 1: in that wide receiver room, he could come back that
Speaker 1: same level of play that he left at last year.
Speaker 1: You're exactly right. And I don't like roller coasters, but
Speaker 1: I like the roller coaster ride that he took us
Speaker 1: on for that short period of time, Because, like you,
Speaker 1: I had question marks in training camp because I kept
Speaker 1: saying to myself, was everybody wrong on this guy? Were
Speaker 1: the office you know, off the field issues such a
Speaker 1: big deal that they missed this talent? And then he
Speaker 1: you know, he he plateaued for you know, a while
Speaker 1: he was on the he was on the ascension, he
Speaker 1: was doing all the things you need to do, and
Speaker 1: then it kind of plateaued and went down a little
Speaker 1: bit with a few drops in training camp, but then
Speaker 1: he picked it right back up and you got back
Speaker 1: on the ride. You're like, I like the way this
Speaker 1: is going. And then the injury hit, so I'm like you,
Speaker 1: I have my fingers crossed. And with the way a
Speaker 1: c LS go over the last ten years, it's almost
Speaker 1: like I don't want to I don't want to bring
Speaker 1: it down to an ankle sprain or any sprain. But
Speaker 1: I will say, other than the rehab that that is vigorous.
Speaker 1: Guys are coming back from these injries and prolonging their
Speaker 1: careers and maybe taking it to another level or at
Speaker 1: least getting back to the level they were at. So
Speaker 1: I think with Preston, you know, I know these he's
Speaker 1: a He's worked for everything that he he's achieved so far,
Speaker 1: and I think with his offseason progression in the a
Speaker 1: c L being able to go through that and seeing
Speaker 1: guys go through it last year, I think that he's
Speaker 1: gonna be ready to go and and really be counted
Speaker 1: on in two thousand and twenty to come up and
Speaker 1: take the pick up the slack on the other side
Speaker 1: of Davante Parker. Yeah, you know it's you talk abous.
Speaker 1: Funny you mentioned that because the A c L deal
Speaker 1: you know, used to be. I know, John, when you
Speaker 1: and I played and back then, and I know I
Speaker 1: played before you, but even I think even during I
Speaker 1: would say, even during your time, Yes, it was devastating
Speaker 1: you got a c L. You know, it was for
Speaker 1: me during my career, and it was funny we didn't
Speaker 1: have as many A c L s as they have now.
Speaker 1: It just seems to be more prevalent now. And I
Speaker 1: think it's because of the size and then just how
Speaker 1: big and and and and and heavy these guys are.
Speaker 1: But that's a different thing. But um, but when when
Speaker 1: guy had you know, as soon as you saw a
Speaker 1: guy go down with the A c L, you knew
Speaker 1: his career was over. It was done. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: know he went, you know, but it was a two
Speaker 1: It was a two year rehab. You know, they did
Speaker 1: butcher your leg from seemed like hip to toe, rebuilding
Speaker 1: you and then you you'd rehab it for two years
Speaker 1: and you'd watch these guys and you knew they were
Speaker 1: gonna be able to play when they came back. And
Speaker 1: sure enough, two years later they'd come back and you know,
Speaker 1: receiver that was running a four four forty now runs
Speaker 1: a four seven and and their careers over with. Now,
Speaker 1: now you've seen guys. If you gotta see a guy
Speaker 1: during a c l early in training camp, Hell, sometimes
Speaker 1: I already to play by the end of the season,
Speaker 1: you know, which is crazy, Z It's unbelievable. You're right,
Speaker 1: and I think a guy that you know, it all
Speaker 1: depends obviously on on the severity and how the curtain
Speaker 1: goes and how the rehab goes, But on the majority,
Speaker 1: I agree with you. It was it was almost a
Speaker 1: football death sentence if you had that injury thirty years ago,
Speaker 1: forty years ago, fifty years ago, and who knows if
Speaker 1: half the guys that were diagnosed with a Knie brain
Speaker 1: and they did have you know, a slight care or
Speaker 1: they did have whatever it was, and they said, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. You know, you're gonna take a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks off and then you'll be fine. But it's
Speaker 1: one of those injuries now that you you hear it
Speaker 1: and you go, okay, he's okay, we'll be back next year.
Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna go through the rehab and and
Speaker 1: everything's gonna be fine. You just cross your fingers that
Speaker 1: you know Pressings has that body type that he's gonna
Speaker 1: be able to bounce back and give you the same
Speaker 1: type of agility and leaping ability and quickness and and
Speaker 1: all that stuff out of breaks that he once had
Speaker 1: that you saw glimpses of last last year. Hey, yeah, John,
Speaker 1: one of the other things I want to touch on here,
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm I'm confused by it. You know,
Speaker 1: the rule changes and what they're trying to do, and
Speaker 1: you know some of the stuff got set aside, but
Speaker 1: this on side kick rule, I I don't, I don't
Speaker 1: completely understand it. I'm looking for I'm looking at you
Speaker 1: for a little clarity here. And now, man, might be
Speaker 1: you might be kicking the wrong the wrong dog here, Bob.
Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody really knows for sure what
Speaker 1: the deal is so so so in lieu of an
Speaker 1: on side kick and I'm I'm um, assuming John, this
Speaker 1: is just the fourth quarter or over time or is
Speaker 1: it the whole game? But lout on side kick you
Speaker 1: can choose to take from your old twenty five yard
Speaker 1: line fourth and fifteen and if you convert, then you
Speaker 1: then you got then you continue to play on. Is
Speaker 1: that is the way I'm understanding this, Well, I'm not
Speaker 1: so sure if it's if it's designated for the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter or that last possession. I would think if if
Speaker 1: you're in the middle of the game and you miss
Speaker 1: a fourth and fifteen from your own twenty five, you
Speaker 1: don't want to give that opportunity, you know, anywhere else
Speaker 1: in the game, unless it's you know, the last seconds
Speaker 1: of of a you know, a half or or whatever,
Speaker 1: or or or the game obviously, but that is it, basically,
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm not so sure if if they've
Speaker 1: been definitive in terms of where they're gonna go with this,
Speaker 1: and how many teams or how many people on the
Speaker 1: the rules committee are on board really with this, and
Speaker 1: are they trying just to take that kickoff and another
Speaker 1: extension of the kickoff completely out of the nfl um
Speaker 1: and put it into another play. So I'm not so
Speaker 1: sure how it's going to end up. But as you said, it,
Speaker 1: yes that that's going to be a fourth and fifteen
Speaker 1: from your own twenty five, and it's gonna eliminate you know, uh,
Speaker 1: collision play that they've tried to adjust with the rules
Speaker 1: in terms of getting a certain amount of bodies on
Speaker 1: each side of the football and outside of the numbers
Speaker 1: and and the hashes and all that stuff, and how
Speaker 1: many yards away from the actual thirty five yard line
Speaker 1: you're allowed to line up, and all those things have
Speaker 1: been adjusted. But I think this one is gonna need
Speaker 1: a little bit more massaging before it comes into play
Speaker 1: in two thousand and twenty. Yeah, you know, the problem
Speaker 1: I got with some of these rules is, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, they tried the pass interfere it's replay last
Speaker 1: year and that was that was brutal. Unfortunately, they pulled
Speaker 1: the rug alpham under that thing and then that's not there.
Speaker 1: But I just, you know, it concerns me that there
Speaker 1: tinkering too much with the game that's already been tinkered
Speaker 1: with enough, you know, if you know, if you're so
Speaker 1: concerned with I don't know. You know, they changed the
Speaker 1: outside kick rule last year, where I thought it was
Speaker 1: a lot much safer last year and almost impossible to
Speaker 1: convert off, although the Dolphins I think converted three times
Speaker 1: during the course of year and had a couple of
Speaker 1: them called back by penalties or whatever. But you know,
Speaker 1: nobody was converting on on those on site kicks. So
Speaker 1: whether it's a whether it's just to put a little
Speaker 1: more excitement in some way, or or whether it's it's
Speaker 1: it's built into protect players, I I don't. I just
Speaker 1: have my hard a hard time wrapping my arms around
Speaker 1: why at this point. You know, you know, I thought
Speaker 1: that they've done kickoff wise, turning kickoff regular kickoffs into
Speaker 1: more like a punt situation. I think it was a
Speaker 1: good situation, and I think it probably alleviated I would
Speaker 1: assume that the numbers of injuries on kickoffs went down
Speaker 1: under those under that UM that rule change with regular kickoffs. UM.
Speaker 1: But you know, at some point he's gotta let the
Speaker 1: game play out school, you know, I don't think so,
Speaker 1: but I think they're you're trying to you know, safety
Speaker 1: is at the forefront of everything the NFL is trying
Speaker 1: to do. But I still think you by doing some
Speaker 1: of that, you're taking some of the strategy away from
Speaker 1: special teams coaches, especially because even though the majority of
Speaker 1: the kicks kickoffs, they're not returned right they're going out
Speaker 1: of the back of the end zone or their nine
Speaker 1: yards or eight yards deep and the teams are just saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, no Moss, Well, we'll just take the football,
Speaker 1: you know. But I do see other special teams coaches
Speaker 1: teaching that that that longer pooch kick that lands inside
Speaker 1: the five yard line, that's hanging up in the air,
Speaker 1: that doesn't give the opposing team instant field position because
Speaker 1: they're barely bringing it back beyond the fifteen yard line
Speaker 1: when they do it successfully, so they're gaining a first
Speaker 1: down for their offense and defense. Really and and I
Speaker 1: think that, you know, with with a lot of the
Speaker 1: rule changes, they're trying to take away the opportunities two
Speaker 1: gain some leverage in terms of field position for for
Speaker 1: your offense and defense. I agree with that. It's just um,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just you know, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of look at it, and you you look four, five, six,
Speaker 1: seven years down the road, and who knows, they may
Speaker 1: not even play special teams anymore. Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: they may adopt a rule that that we had in
Speaker 1: Canada where you just go, you know what, we'll take
Speaker 1: the vault at the designated yard line whatever the NFL
Speaker 1: would say, it's the twenty five yard and we'll just
Speaker 1: take it at the twenty or and be done with it.
Speaker 1: But but but you know, you touched on something too, John.
Speaker 1: That's always been interesting to me is watching these rule
Speaker 1: changes over the years and watching coaches adapt and and
Speaker 1: when that first, when the kickoff rule first came out,
Speaker 1: the change last year, I think there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people who going to well, like you said, look
Speaker 1: at the end zone, just just just down it, you know,
Speaker 1: just let it go and we'll take them all wherever.
Speaker 1: And then and then and then you have these coaches
Speaker 1: started looking for ways to make how can we okay, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll kick it to the five yard line,
Speaker 1: let our coverage guys get down there, and usually they
Speaker 1: end up between the you know, they end up you know,
Speaker 1: if you didn't kick them all to the five, you're
Speaker 1: stopping him at the ten or fifteen yard line. So
Speaker 1: like you said, you're gaining an advantage. Uh, But from
Speaker 1: from that, from that if you're the kicking team, uh,
Speaker 1: from a field position standpoint, and so I just don't
Speaker 1: want to see I just don't want to see the
Speaker 1: league take the creativity from the coaches out of the
Speaker 1: game at any level, whether it's offense, defense, or special teams.
Speaker 1: And I think the more they make these changes on
Speaker 1: special teams wise, the more you kind of handcuffed these
Speaker 1: guys to where you know, eventually every special team unit
Speaker 1: or if if whatever they're gonna be doing, it's gonna
Speaker 1: look the same because they're gonna be so limited and
Speaker 1: what they can do. It takes away the creativity of
Speaker 1: coaches to find answers two new rule changes, if you will,
Speaker 1: And I think it takes away your coaching ability if
Speaker 1: you're a special teams coordinator, because you know, going in
Speaker 1: weekend and week out, hey, we have an advantage this week.
Speaker 1: We're better than Team X in special teams, especially in
Speaker 1: kickoff return. So if we can get our hands on it,
Speaker 1: even if it's the eight yard line, we feel like
Speaker 1: we have the ability to get the football out past
Speaker 1: the twenty five yard line. So let's take our shots.
Speaker 1: And it goes into that planning of that week, and
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have other weeks where you say, you
Speaker 1: know what, under any circumstances, do not return the football.
Speaker 1: We'll take it at because the statistics show us that Baltimore, Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: or knowing whoever that special teams unit is covering has
Speaker 1: been averaging you know, the opposition around the fifteen eighteen
Speaker 1: yard line. So we'll take that extra seven to ten
Speaker 1: yards and move it out and just and just take
Speaker 1: our chance. Is with the offense teaming up from Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see how that goes and see what
Speaker 1: ends up that way. Hey, John, before before we wrapped
Speaker 1: this thing up. Uh, you know, and entertainment's been tough
Speaker 1: to find the service them from the sports standpoint, but uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you're a golfer. I like to
Speaker 1: watch golf. I'd like to think I could. I'd like
Speaker 1: to think one of these days you're a golfer too.
Speaker 1: But we're all golfers at heart. It's up level or
Speaker 1: But but I I watching the watching the match this
Speaker 1: last weekend, um uh with with with Phil and Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods and Peyton Manning. I thought it was I
Speaker 1: thought it was awesome. Yes, just from from a lot
Speaker 1: of standpoints and and and one of the things John,
Speaker 1: that I think was it was really cool to me
Speaker 1: was that, um, the players all got it. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: knew what they were there for. They were there to
Speaker 1: have fun, they were there to jab each other a
Speaker 1: little bit, but they were also there to play John,
Speaker 1: so there to play. There was a lot of people
Speaker 1: that were closing up to the TV at three o'clock
Speaker 1: to to watch that thing. And I give those guys
Speaker 1: a lot of credit because I guarantee you this had
Speaker 1: had that been any other day out there. Uh and
Speaker 1: then and they had to play with those with the
Speaker 1: weather conditions, they wouldn't have been out there playing. And
Speaker 1: they gutted it through and and and I you know,
Speaker 1: it was fun playing, but it wasn't easy playing through
Speaker 1: those conditions, especially on that golf course, no way. And
Speaker 1: number one, we we touched on it the week before
Speaker 1: on the audible boat. Remember I said that probably those
Speaker 1: guys would lose three to four golfers a piece in
Speaker 1: terms of you know, you know, not not really Phil
Speaker 1: and Tiger, but Tom and Payton because it's such a
Speaker 1: hard golf golf course to play and you're you're gonna
Speaker 1: buy just a little bit off the fairway. It's complete X.
Speaker 1: There's not a score you can make. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where tough golf force extremely
Speaker 1: tough conditions and then the pressure of of just going
Speaker 1: out and playing. It's not your regular you know, throw
Speaker 1: the balls up and hit it. You know that five
Speaker 1: million people are watching and you're playing a game that
Speaker 1: you're not accustomed to playing on TV. So I I
Speaker 1: felt for for Tom, especially early because he was struggling mightily,
Speaker 1: but he brought it back. He holds the you know,
Speaker 1: the wedge shot on the far five seven fold, he
Speaker 1: makes a huge eagle put on eleven. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was fun. And I thought Peyton was awesome too with
Speaker 1: the commentary and you know, giving it to everybody, especially
Speaker 1: Tom was which was good, and him giving it back
Speaker 1: to Charles, uh, you know, which was great. So I
Speaker 1: thought the whole thing really, uh, the whole thing was
Speaker 1: beautifully run and executed. And I just hope they do,
Speaker 1: you know, some more of that in the offseason, because
Speaker 1: I think you could have some dynamic guys come out
Speaker 1: and and go on the golf course and have a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Raised number most importantly, raised a ton
Speaker 1: of money in a in a four hour period for
Speaker 1: for what a wonderful cause. And I just think that,
Speaker 1: you know, you can expand on that and and people
Speaker 1: get it. People tuned in because not only that you
Speaker 1: know the greatness of of the four people, but you
Speaker 1: know knowing it was gonna be a camaraderie that was
Speaker 1: gonna be fun to watch. Well, you know, you know
Speaker 1: you could see and you could You've got glimpses of
Speaker 1: people in different ways. You know, you got to see
Speaker 1: Tiger Tiger where he's not just you know, grinding it out,
Speaker 1: you know, not being Tiger, not not not playing at
Speaker 1: his highest level, you know, where where he's so focused
Speaker 1: that he doesn't even realize what's going on with what
Speaker 1: the fans were, but they're not that they're fans there,
Speaker 1: but you know, watching him up with Putts, watching help
Speaker 1: look for golf balls, well, just his explanations of stuff
Speaker 1: within then Phil were great and then Phil, you know,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do here? And you know, ten
Speaker 1: minutes later, Phil still talking through the I have already
Speaker 1: hit it four times once over the game, once back. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it was I thought it was really good and
Speaker 1: I thought those guys all handled themselves well. And you
Speaker 1: could tell and that that front nine that that Tom
Speaker 1: Brady wasn't he was a little he was you know,
Speaker 1: he's a proud guy, you know, the guy. Guy's not
Speaker 1: used to being someone you know, you know, he dresses
Speaker 1: perfectly all the time. He's always you know, and you know,
Speaker 1: not only so so not only is he playing poorly,
Speaker 1: he couldn't, you know, everything's going right and he's he's
Speaker 1: all over the place, and then he finally it's a
Speaker 1: good shot. BENSI over to pick up the ball, splits
Speaker 1: his pants and and I don't know about you, but
Speaker 1: I watch it. I think he split his pants. You know,
Speaker 1: for many golfers that has happened to Yeah, no doubt, yeah,
Speaker 1: uh but it was. It was good. And like you said, Peyton,
Speaker 1: you know, Peyton just has that way. He's got that knack.
Speaker 1: And you know, even when he's writing by himself in
Speaker 1: the car, telling stories and and this and that and
Speaker 1: shouting out to his buddies back in New Orleans and
Speaker 1: all those types of things. Uh, yeah, it was And
Speaker 1: I thought that was a lot a lot of I
Speaker 1: give those guys a lot of credits. I do. And
Speaker 1: they put on a great show and and it was
Speaker 1: highly entertaining. And I'm sure, uh, you know that the
Speaker 1: match is going to expand and and have other you know,
Speaker 1: players from other sports join other pro golfers, and it
Speaker 1: would be just as entertaining. I I can't wait for
Speaker 1: the next one. So this is just a little personal
Speaker 1: question to you, John, from me. And I know you
Speaker 1: played the Medalists a number of times up there, um
Speaker 1: and you're a good golfer. So would it be easier?
Speaker 1: Would the Medalists be easier to play when it's wet
Speaker 1: or when it's bone dry? Definitely wet, definitely. I mean
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for the high winds and and all
Speaker 1: that nasty rain and it was just it was just
Speaker 1: you know, after a rain storm, I think those guys
Speaker 1: would have had a much better you know, probably front
Speaker 1: nine or enjoyable front nine, because it looked miserable, you know,
Speaker 1: handling your own equipment and trying to keep everything dry
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out, you know, who's away and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. You definitely definitely easier wet, but maybe
Speaker 1: not that day. Yeah, But you know what I just
Speaker 1: remember I played that. I think I played there twice, John,
Speaker 1: And all I remember is that if you're short of
Speaker 1: the green, the ball is gonna come back about if
Speaker 1: you hit the ball, everything is is so tight over
Speaker 1: the greens. You hit it a little long, you come
Speaker 1: up and you're behind some bush about thirty yards back
Speaker 1: that you know what. I hit the green, yeah, and
Speaker 1: going and going and going. And for amurs Bo, that's
Speaker 1: a great course to use your putter from twenty yards
Speaker 1: around every anywhere. If you don't have a bunker in
Speaker 1: your way, put the putter in your hand and just
Speaker 1: get it to lands or settle somewhere on the green. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm surprised too. I'm surprised that, and you
Speaker 1: certainly no, you don't know with Tiger or with UH
Speaker 1: or with Phil, but I'm surprised there wasn't a six
Speaker 1: ration where because they have some long carries over those marshes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they teas there and I was I was
Speaker 1: waiting for one of those guys to get a decent
Speaker 1: shot and just just haven't not carried, you know, not where,
Speaker 1: did not be able to get it over the uh
Speaker 1: you know, over the scrub before you get to the fairway. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I played with both Tom Brady and and Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: and golf, not not at the medalists, but right next
Speaker 1: door at MacArthur. And both of those guys, I mean
Speaker 1: are are single digit handicaps and both can hit it.
Speaker 1: It just took took Tom a little while to get
Speaker 1: going and once he got going, he played really well. Well,
Speaker 1: you kind of knew, you kind of knew he wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna be there. He wasn't gonna be that guy at old.
Speaker 1: He wasn't gonna be the butt of the jokes the
Speaker 1: whole time. I know, I think, you know, I think
Speaker 1: what Charles Barkley told him said, Hey, I want to
Speaker 1: I want to play you for buddy, No chance that that.
Speaker 1: I think. I think that turned. I think that was
Speaker 1: just enough to light the fire enough on Tom Brady
Speaker 1: where he said, you know, f this, I'm going out,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start rolling a little bit. Yeah. Well he
Speaker 1: hits the ball the it's some ball in the whole
Speaker 1: from the fairway and goes when you can suck that call,
Speaker 1: that was That was awesome. That was so good anyway.
Speaker 1: But it's good entertainment, good entertainment, good stuff. And uh
Speaker 1: and uh that's good I'm doing for us John when
Speaker 1: they get to go on and play a little golf
Speaker 1: this weekend. Yeah, I tell you what, I'm I'm actually
Speaker 1: I'm I have my backwork done. I gotta go see
Speaker 1: the doctor Tuesday. If I get the green light on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: then then the golf courses around South Florida can start
Speaker 1: getting extra sand in the buckets because bo I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start telling put some extra netting up. That's it, man,
Speaker 1: that's it. I women and children, shore, both camps, back
Speaker 1: to the golf course. Get your hard hats on because
Speaker 1: ball's gonna be playing all the I hope, I hope
Speaker 1: you get the green light. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Hi, John,
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Hey, thanks vote all right, Logan, thank you
Speaker 1: too for John Conjemmy, I'm kim vo camp all little McCall,
Speaker 1: thanks you for everything. And hey, yeah, we'll catch up
Speaker 1: with you guys next week. We'll have something to talk
Speaker 1: about and hopefully we'll have some good news, uh moving
Speaker 1: forward next week. And tell then you guys stay safe
Speaker 1: and we'll speak to you soon