1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Dan Hansis alongside Chris Westling, hey Man, 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, and the Boss Greg Rosenthal. Where they around 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast Check us out three times a week 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: as we discussed the latest NFL news as it happened, 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: always of course with a touch of mirth. Subscribe at 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: NFL dot com, Slash Podcasts, iTunes and Stitcher. And now 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: moved the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. What's 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: up everybody, d J? Bucky here moved the sticks presented 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: by the US Marine Corps. Bucky, how you doing? I'm good? 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm good. I feel like I need more energy. If 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: you tweeted out that pitched me back, I feel like 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: you provide a little more energy. Well, I was. I 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: was just not paying attention to looking down at my phone. 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: So I was I was representing the focus, the lack 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: of focus on our show. You were representing the lack 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: of energy. I was taking a yoga moment to yourself. Well, 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: here's the thing. We recognize our own shortcomings. Ego is 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: not a problem here. No, we identify our weaknesses into 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: something like we need more focus and energy. Okay, so 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: what do we do we bring in Rhet Lois. Yeah, 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: Fust hosted NFL works fourth, fourth or fifth which to 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: be determined. But yeah, Rhet Lewis hosts a Path the Draft. 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: To join us in studio here. What's going on right? 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: How are you doing? Fantastic man, Excited for another show 25 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: this evening. But yeah, it's a little early for me 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: to make my annual appearance. I know it is early, 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: but like I said, we needed a little spark. That's 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: what I'm here for, Matt. What's the name of that 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: little energy drink that you take Hill, it's about his 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: healthy FDA approved maybe maybe not show, maybe not there. 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: I like to live on the edge, man, That's why 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: I'll bring the energy and the focus for you. All right. 33 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: So we've got coming up at the at the tail 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: end of the show here, we've got an interview with 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: Joshua Dobbs, Tennessee quarterback. You're gonna want to listen to 36 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: that fascinating kid. Um. You get some some good insight 37 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: into him. I think probably one of those more intriguing 38 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: mid round quarterback prospects and nice job down to Senior Bowl. 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: So we will chat with him. But guys, one thing 40 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: I want to jump in here, first, is uh the 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: pro day thing, and Bucky, I want to get your 42 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: take on this because we have Fabian Moreau. The news 43 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: just came out towards Peck at the u c L 44 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: A Pro day on the bench rus Sidney Jones getting 45 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: hurt going through the field workout, Like man, that sucks. 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: I hate it, but I kind of get it right. 47 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: You're putting him through football drills. This is my this 48 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: is my new theory. I'm gonna throw it out to 49 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: you and we'll have a two man board here to 50 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: see if you can get approval. Okay, I've never been 51 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: in a draft room where a corner who had four 52 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: or five bench press reps versus a corner who had 53 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: seventeen or eight teen Chris moot Fred didn't get anything. 54 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: You got one. Yeah, so I but I've never never 55 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: really heard that be There's no there's no issue between 56 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: between four and so. My thing is, here's my new 57 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: proposal for corners in the bench press test. We're gonna 58 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: throw to twenty five on the bar. We need you 59 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: to get a rep to show that you've been to 60 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: a weight room before, and then you can rack it. 61 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: That's it. I don't need you straining, trying to get 62 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: extra reps on a bench press. I do not care. 63 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Get under the get under the weight, put it up 64 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: once racket and then we let the lineman come in 65 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: there and we'll talk. I mean, but why even go 66 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: through that process, Like why even do it? Like why 67 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: do you really need to do it? Like if it's 68 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: not if it's one of those things that's incomplete on 69 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: on the checklist, that does it really matter for the 70 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: bench for us? I mean, I just don't know if 71 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: it necessarily matters for for that. But to revisit that thing, 72 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: I think we're starting a movement here. Yeah, I mean 73 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: that there's so many other things that I'm more concerned with. 74 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: I think the bigger thing will be after the draft, 75 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: where we see where Sidney Jones falls, where Fabruite Monroe falls, 76 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: and how much their pro days may have impacted them. 77 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: What does it do for the next generation the next year? 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: How do guys attack or approach their pro days. Will 79 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: they just do the work at the common and then 80 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: just kind of go on hiatus and say that I've 81 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: done everything in front of everybody, there's nothing else for 82 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: me to do. Or will they continue to work out 83 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: because I'm becoming a little concerned at the rate of 84 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: the injuries because when you really look at it, guys 85 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: go from the end of the season to now we 86 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: have to asked him to get ready for the Senior Bowl, 87 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: I need to All Star games to the Combine. There's 88 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: just not enough time for them to rest and recover 89 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: and fully prepare for all the stuff that we're asking. 90 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: What I'm realizing right now is that we we have 91 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: rent On, we should have his father on. You're right, 92 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: those who don't know, I'll tell him your dad's background. Rep. Yeah, well, 93 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: it's a trainer in the NFL, for excuse me, kills 94 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: me every time. It's an athletic trainer for forty years. 95 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: And um, you know, I think I kind of agree 96 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: with you a little bit on on minimizing the potential 97 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: for injury. Um, especially in a drill like for a 98 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: position group, where you're saying, having been in a draft room, 99 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: it's not making a ton of difference where you're going. Um, 100 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: I guess maybe if you you probably if you see 101 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: a corner, you know, go in there and throw up 102 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five, maybe it gives him. Maybe you're 103 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: you take a little bit really. I mean I don't 104 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: know if I've ever paid attention to the bench press. No, 105 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: Like so now I can understand the three cone and 106 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: the position of drills and and those things, but the 107 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: bench press, to me, has never done anything in the 108 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: evaluation process, Like I don't remember discussing it. It literally 109 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: would come up with offensive lineman more than any other 110 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Obviously, the guys in the trenches that you 111 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: kind of take a look at that, Um well, I 112 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: think you're gonna start to see that. I mean, the 113 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: agents have got to be taking notice of this too, 114 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: but there you know and be like, hey, yeah, you know, 115 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: is this really worth it for my guys? Yeah? Yeah, 116 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Especially you start seeing these guys lose money, I think 117 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: the entire process will be re evaluated when it comes 118 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: to pro days and private workouts. Here's the thing though, Look, 119 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm not an expert on torn pecks, but I don't 120 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: think like if if it's just easy peasy, like your 121 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: first couple of reps, that you're in danger of tearing 122 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: your pack, I'm not I'm not a doctor. I don't 123 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: know that. To me, it would seem like more you're 124 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: straining to try and get a couple extra reps on there, 125 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: and that's when you have an injury. My thing is 126 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: if you're if you're an agent and be like, look, dude, 127 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: once you once you start to feel a little bit, 128 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: just grack that thing. Who cares not? Don't don't blow yourself. Well, 129 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think the funny thing is, 130 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: remember how much we talked about Christie McCaffrey's ten reps 131 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: at the combine. Then the next day he ran, We 132 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: didn't anymore. It was just something to talk about. Like 133 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: that's what we do because we don't have enough to 134 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: talk about, so we look at any little thing and 135 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: nitpick it. But and you brought it up with you 136 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: brought up the Sidney Jones injury with Cooper Cup yesterday 137 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: on the show. And he was like, look, I mean, 138 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: you can't live like like I'm gonna go out and run. 139 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna go out and show that I'm 140 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: a football player, and and you know I can. I 141 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: can appreciate that. And I think we still want to 142 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: see that kind of stuff, no question, Um, Bucky. As 143 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: we're as we're getting ready to get a little bit 144 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: closer to the draft, here a name is there a 145 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: name that you're starting to hear more than any other. 146 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: Like for me, um, we're just talking about Christian McCaffrey. 147 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: It was remember when there was a debate on whether 148 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey was the first round pick. I do remember that, 149 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: only there's a debate on whether Christian McCaffrey is the 150 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: first round pick. Like I personally, I would be shocked 151 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: if he doesn't go in the first round, and I 152 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: think he's much more likely to go in the top 153 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: twenty than he is in the bottom twelve in the 154 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: first round. Well, I mean, he's pretty clean as a 155 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: prospect in terms of the character checks out. He has 156 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: production on tape. You can see his impact in big games, 157 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: and even though there was a little dip in his 158 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: production his final season at Stanford, I think everyone goes 159 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: back to a sophomore season when he shared Barry Sanders 160 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: single season right and for all purpose yards, and they say, like, 161 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: that's the kind of impact that he could have. I 162 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: think the big thing for Christian McCaffrey is all to fit. 163 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: Where does he go on? How do they use him? 164 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: As long as they don't try to make him kind 165 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: of the old school traditional workhorse and take um diminish 166 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: some of the other talents that he brings to the table. 167 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: I think you'll be fine. I think he's a terrific player. 168 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, does the momentum of McCaffrey 169 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: into the first round hurt at all the potential movement 170 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: of Alvin Kamara as a possible first round pick, Well, 171 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: I think Camara. Look that there's only so many teams 172 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: that believe in their philosophy to take a running back 173 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: in the first round. So you're gonna eliminate a lot 174 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: of teams out of that out of that list immediately 175 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: because they just philosophically don't want to take a running 176 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: back that high. Um. But I feel like we're gonna 177 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: have three with with Cook thrown in there with four net, 178 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: I think those three are gonna go. I still think 179 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: Camara where I think he has first round ability. I 180 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: just think it's gonna be hard finding that other team 181 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna be say, look, we want to get want 182 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: to get some secondary help. We want to try and 183 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: get one of these addressers and we can circle back 184 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: for another one of these backs. The The interesting thing 185 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: is we talked forever about how deep this secondary classes, 186 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: and now Sidney Jones, Fabian Morow. We had an off 187 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: the field incident with with Jordan Lewis at Michigan. So 188 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: now those three corners are three of the guys shuffles 189 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: that group up. His shuffles a group moves guys up 190 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: like a Dorry Jackson. To me, is in he's gonna 191 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: be a first round pick. There's just yeah. And I 192 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: think I think the guy you talk about, Sidney Jones, 193 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: I think his teammate is obviously benefiting. Um the Kevin 194 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: King um and talking to guys like recently, I just 195 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: got off the phone with a guy he talked about. Look, 196 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: here's the thing that you can say about Kevin King. 197 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: He knows exactly who he is as a player, and 198 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: he always puts himself in a position to make plays. 199 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: And there's a value in that when you look at 200 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: his length, his athleticism, how fast he runs, and the 201 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: fact that he plays the game the right way. Um, 202 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: you can see him going at the bottom of the 203 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: first round. I think you might have had him in there. Yeah, 204 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: I think Seattle. I mean, he just fits what they do. 205 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: He's kind of he's just a long guy. So he 206 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: is the guy to benefits. So Dorry Jackson certainly benefits. 207 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: So now some of the these names that were on 208 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: the borderline on the custom first round, I think we'll 209 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 1: hear those names come off in the first round. Now, 210 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: is this the group the d vs the group where 211 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: we have the best potential to see that that run 212 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: like we saw with receivers last year, the middle middle, 213 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: later part of the first round. I think we're gonna 214 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: see a couple of different positional runs. I'll give you 215 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: a couple of my thoughts on that. I think you're 216 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: gonna see a run on edge rushers in between that, 217 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: like nine and twenty, I think you're gonna see a 218 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: bunch of edge rushers go off the board. And then 219 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: I think when we get to like the early twenties 220 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: to like the mid thirties, I think you're gonna see 221 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: corners and safeties just a bunch of a bunch of 222 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: flying And I think there are a bunch of players. 223 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the more you dig into the list, the 224 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: more you see players and fine players that you like. 225 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: You remember got a few months ago we talked about 226 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: Justin Evans from Texas A and M and we haven't 227 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: even talked He's a good player, good player. But now 228 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: he's rarely mentioned when we talk about those top guys, 229 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: but he's a guy in the second round that that 230 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: we could talk about. I think the bigger thing when 231 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: it comes to runs will be when do they make 232 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: the run on quarterbacks? When do we start seeing the 233 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: quarterback X come off the board? Um? Look, we know 234 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: Troubisky and Watson, um, but when the Kaiser and my 235 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: homes and David's way, when when did those guys begin 236 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: to kind of get into conversations at the top of 237 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: the second round. Well, one of those guys kind of 238 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: fall into the back of the first round. How does 239 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: that conversation because I'm more interested in that run. Yeah, 240 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: I mean like that's that and everyone's you know, the 241 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: guys that are sitting there in the back of the 242 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: first round are praying that some of those guys going 243 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 1: to top ten. Noh, no question. I get calls from 244 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: teams and you know, picking outside the top ten, going 245 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: tell me these guys are gonna go, right, They're not slipping? 246 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: Are they want those guys to go? I'm like, I 247 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: don't know, man, Um, Well, we'll talk plenty of kinds 248 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: of jet. The jet the jets seem to be the team. 249 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: I mean, as I go through it here, everything that 250 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: that I continue to hear and again take it from 251 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: what it's worth, is that Cleveland is not enamor with 252 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks that they are going to take two good 253 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: position players with their first two picks. In fact, don't 254 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: be surprised if at twelve they were to try and 255 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: slide down a little bit more. That's the rumor that 256 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: you hear there, San Francisco, Bucky, We've been on this 257 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: talking about this forever. It seems like kirk Cousins seems 258 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: inevitable there, So why would they jump in on a 259 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: guy this year? It seems like they'll hold out and 260 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: wait for Kirk Cousins. The Bears go get Glennon and 261 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: kill a younger guy and kind of commit to him. 262 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: So it seems like that pulls them out there in 263 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: a win now mode with their regime. So it seems 264 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: to pull them out of the mix. Then. So the 265 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: next stopping point there is the Jets at six, and 266 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: that's the one where I think it kind of starts 267 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: where Okay, if I think that's to me, that's the 268 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: earliest we're gonna see a quarterback go as a six. Yeah, 269 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: I think I think six is the obvious plays josh 270 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: ma count is obviously a one year rental um and 271 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: it's not even guaranteed that he can be just started 272 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: if you have a young guy that can out play him, 273 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: so you have six. Uh, Twolve is not a consideration 274 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: based on what she says. And what about Buffalo because 275 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: because with Tyrod Taylor but bringing him back, they got 276 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: a little it's not too not too big of a number. 277 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: But I just think I just stacked Tyrod Taylor up 278 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: ability wise. I stack him up over these guys. I 279 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: don't know how much better you get with one of 280 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: those guys over Tyrod Taylor. Tyrod Taylor has played in 281 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: in the league, had a pretty good level. This is 282 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: his he just finished his second year as a starter. 283 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: So what's your g is an experienced guy who still 284 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: kind of has young uh young starting quarterback trace, I 285 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: would be more apt to go with tire Taylor. So 286 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: then that takes you to thirteen in the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, 287 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: that's the one that by the way, that's the one 288 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: that too, that a lot of people are curious about. 289 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: That's kind of like a pivot point in this draft. 290 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: Because they could be in a position where they get um, 291 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: you know, they could take pick off one of the 292 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: top edge rushers. You know, they could potentially add one 293 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: of them, which when you look at teams, you look 294 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: at like, uh, you know, Philadelphia, Indianapolis and even the 295 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: Ravens um those teams are in the market for an 296 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: edge guy. So it's kind of an interesting spot where 297 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: they where they are right now with Arizona. You know, 298 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, those teams are just like 299 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: on their knees going did take a quarterback? Take a quarterback? 300 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: We don't need one, you know. Then here's the thing 301 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: with with the Cardinals because so much of what we 302 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: said in terms of what fists has been based on 303 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: the Bruce Arians thing. Well, if we're under the impression 304 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: that maybe Bruce Arians has a year or two late, 305 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: why would he want to take a quarterback to develop 306 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: at that point? Do they take a quarterback that fits 307 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: what he does? Do they take the best quarterback that 308 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: they view as a franchise quarterback and say, okay, Bruce, 309 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: you canna be here for a little bit, but we 310 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: need someone that is a large term solution because in 311 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: my mind, different styles like Kaiser would be more of 312 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback that fits his style. I don't know if 313 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: Watson and Trobiscio more so, Here's what here's my thing. 314 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: If if it's known inside the building that this is 315 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: Bruce arians and really, if it's not his last year, 316 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: it's one of the last years for him. You look 317 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: at Carson Palmer, if not his last year, one of 318 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: the last years for him, you think that that this, 319 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: to me is all set up for them to make 320 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: one last push. You know, you don't take a quarterback 321 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: to back up when you're trying to make that big push. 322 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: It's not Steve Kin's last year though, right, No, no, 323 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: but if but I mean, I still think even as 324 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: a GM, you have to look at it and say, okay, 325 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: we're we're close. You know, you gotta take take take 326 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: the bat off your shoulder and take a swing. Let's 327 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: let's see if we can get over the hump and 328 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: win this thing. We got a pretty good roster now, 329 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: if we can get one player in here to come 330 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: in and be that difference maker, think we might get there. 331 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: Do you think at the top you're you're willing to 332 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: take more of a short sighted look like we're gonna 333 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: try for this year. I think I think he's secure, 334 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: he's been there forever. No, But as as opposed to, look, 335 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: we have an opportunity if we really like one of 336 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, Like one of these quarterbacks we really like, 337 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: we'll take him now so we can really develop him 338 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: the right way, as opposed to going next year and 339 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: maybe say they win some games so now they'll be 340 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: lower in the draft where they put him in a 341 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: position to get one of those. I still though, I 342 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: just sit there and think, Okay, it is so hard 343 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: to win a championship, and you owe it to the 344 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: organization if you're in the position where they are, which 345 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: is pretty dawn close, and you had a setback this 346 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: last year with a veteran quarterback. I get. Look, I'm 347 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: I get from a front office standpoint, you need to 348 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: be looking towards the future. But I'm sitting here saying 349 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna be there. Bruce arians talks about 350 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: no risk it, no biscuit. That's what he's known for. 351 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: A Barnet spot right there. Well, I mean, I think 352 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: it'd be it would be a great fit for him there, 353 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, I just think you'd take your one 354 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: crack out of it, and next year you can push 355 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: the reset button. Well, I mean, because they have. When 356 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: you look at them, they're they're kind of at a 357 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: tipping point because they're aging in several key areas. So 358 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: they're aging at quarterback with Carson Farmer. They don't have 359 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: a number one receiver after Fitzgerald. And look, I like 360 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: John Brown and some of those other guys, but the 361 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: little guys they need a true number. I'm saying you 362 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: get a Mike Williams or Corey Davis in that mix. 363 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. So I think that 364 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: I think that's a real pivot point there. The other 365 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: thing with the quarterback discussion to circle back though, um, 366 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: I of look, the Chargers, they're a team that's not 367 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: very good right now, and Philip still play at a 368 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: very high level. How much longer is he gonna play? 369 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: That's something they have to figure out whether or not 370 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: they would go into the quarterback market. We'll see the Saints. 371 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they would do it at eleven, but 372 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: they do hold thirty two. Uh So I think that's 373 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: where those guys go. So based on what you're saying, 374 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: So let's say we're the Chargers with the Cardinals, and 375 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: we still want to identify our franchise quarterback, but we're 376 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: uncomfortable taking them there bottom of the first round, top 377 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: of the second round, because those guys whole kind of 378 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: like top of the second round picks. Do they jump 379 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: back into the first round to pick one of those quarterbacks? 380 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Get the Patrick Holmes Kaiser somebody in there are they say, Okay, 381 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: we're not gonna go early, but we'll go bottom of 382 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: the first round early in the second round and make 383 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: that move. Here's my thing if you're the Saints, and 384 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: I know, like the feeling I tend to get is 385 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: that they they think they have a chance to be 386 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: pretty it if they can just fix the defense. So 387 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: that's the latest thing that you hear out of there. 388 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: So okay, well that takes him, you know, looking for 389 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: Drew Brees eventual replacement. Maybe they don't do that early. 390 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: My thing is, though they have three picks in the 391 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: top forty two. They picked there we talked about pick 392 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: number eleven. They have picked thirty two. Yeah, which for now, 393 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: yeah with the Patriots, uh from the Patriots will see 394 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: what happens with Malcolm Butler, and then they have picked 395 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: forty two, their own pick in the second round. There. 396 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: So my thing is, if you are, say Pat Mahomes, 397 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: who they've done some work with, and that's who they 398 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: want to, you know, growm as Drew Brees eventual replacement. 399 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: If you like him enough to take him at forty two, Bucky, 400 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: why the heck wouldn't you take him at thirty two 401 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: because you you've got a developmental quarterback, you get an 402 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: extra year. You're gonna get five years with him instead 403 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: of four. When you laid that argument out, one, I 404 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't give up a first round pick from Malcolm Butler. 405 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: I would give up a second round pick from l Well. 406 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: I would give so give up forty two and let 407 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: let that go to the Patriots, and then at thirty 408 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: two you can tell Pat Mahomes and at eleven you 409 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: can get the guy that can help your defense. I 410 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: would think that would be the strategy. I wouldn't if 411 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: I believe that quarterback is the third drum, taking him. Yeah, 412 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't try and get cute and wait to the 413 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: second round. I just think when you have developmental quarterbacks, 414 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: it's valuable to get into bottom of one with the 415 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: extra in the deal. I mean, I think about Pat 416 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: Mahomes in this draft, and I think about all the 417 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that he's affected, and he's beat out right Davis Webb. 418 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: I mean Baker Mayfield to a certain extent, right transfers 419 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: and then Baker beats out Trevor Knight. He goes to 420 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: A and m Um the dominoes right, six six degrees separation, 421 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: and Kingsbury has said that Davis Webb has the ability 422 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: of a top five pick in the draft. I mean, 423 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: so what does he think of Patrick Mahomes, you know 424 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: who beat him out? It's interesting, Well, here's one thing 425 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: that you'll learn. Um god bless. College coaches love their dudes. 426 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: But I mean, I can give you a long list 427 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: I can give you. I mean, I won't air the laundry, 428 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: but I mean I've been in those rooms and been 429 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: chastised by coaches and saying, you guys are messing up 430 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: on this guy. This guy is this out or the other, 431 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: and then turns out he was very much the other. 432 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: So I mean, like, like, they have support their guys. 433 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm all for that, but I crack up. People make 434 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: and you know, big news stories about how he said 435 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: that he was better than this guy or that guy, 436 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan. I don't want it wanted just one example. Um, 437 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: I have to go back and double check. But I 438 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: want to say Charlie Weiss had either, you know, not 439 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: just compared Brady Quinn to Tom Brady. I think he 440 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: might even have said he was better better. It was, 441 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: it was discussed. But so anyways, there's there's uh, there's 442 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: a reason they're they're loyal to their guys. That's cool, 443 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: but you gotta do your do your own work. The 444 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: last thing on the quarterback here for me, and I'm 445 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: curious if if the Browns don't see one of these 446 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks as the franchise savior ready to step in immediately 447 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: that you would take not only with the twelve or 448 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: with the one, why would they come top of the 449 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: second round and do that as well? And I don't know. 450 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: I think I think either they put a trigger one 451 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: or they don't put a trick at all, and they 452 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: just did just go and they just trying to figure 453 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: out if they can either make the trade for Jimmy 454 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: g or a j McCarran or stick with Cody Kessler 455 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: for another year and kind of figure it out and 456 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: continue to build up their team, Um, because I don't 457 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: know how much better you're getting, Yeah, beyond it, if 458 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna take a chance because either you pull a 459 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: Drick and say hey I'm swing for defensive, can get 460 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: a guy, or because you can't keep piecemeal of it. 461 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I think. I think I think. 462 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: I think there's also there's a lot of teams that 463 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: man they're hoping they can find that Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, 464 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, middle and so I almost think like there's 465 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: a strategy involved here where on a yearly basis, I'd 466 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: like to take the second round. Let's just take a 467 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: random team here. Okay, let's let's take uh. Let's take uh. 468 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: Let's say the middle like Buffalo picks forty four. Okay, 469 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: let's say if you just made a commitment every year, 470 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: in the second round, you're gonna try and slide back 471 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: ten spots. So you're at forty four, you're gonna you're 472 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: gonna trade down to fifty four with Miami, so and 473 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: dropping those ten spots. I don't have the trade chart 474 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: in front of me, but I'm assuming you probably get 475 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: a fourth round pick for those for those ten spots. 476 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: Every year, we're gonna sacrifice ten spots in the second round, 477 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a free four. And every year we're 478 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: gonna take a quarterback in the fourth round. Every year 479 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: it's a bonus pick. We just like we didn't cost 480 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: us a pick. We just slid down ten spots to 481 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: get a quarterback every year. And you just keep cycling through, 482 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: cycling them through, and who knows, you hit on one, 483 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: and if you already have one, you gotta you got 484 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: a heck of a trade piece there. But at least 485 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: every like more often just doing that, keep pumping. So 486 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: I come from a place. Obviously I haven't played in 487 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: Green Bay under round Wolf. That was his tact, and 488 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: so obviously I followed the tree John Snyder, Ted Thompson, 489 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: Scott mcclun, all those guys. His philosophy was every other year, 490 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: take a quarterback in a day three range, fourth, fifth, 491 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: sixth round and just see if they can develop and 492 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: turn out. So Mark Rounelle was a guy that they 493 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: drafted late that eventually they were able to pawn off 494 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: Hastle Beck Uh Aaron Brooks down in New Orleans. They 495 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: came from Green Bay, like they believed and taking chances 496 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: on those guys and doing it because you just don't 497 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: know if one of those guys just wanted to develop 498 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: and then you pawn them off, just like at Leno 499 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: was able to do with Matt Shop and the like 500 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: I think you should continue to swing for the fence 501 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: is in those bottom rounds and see if you can 502 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: mind a young quarterback. I guess the the argument against 503 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: that would be that, I mean, Andy Reath done then 504 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: essentially the last three years, right, the last five years 505 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: with Tyler Bray, Aaron Murray, Kevin Hogan. Just keep trying 506 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: to keep doing it. And that's that's that's Dorsey, and 507 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: that's agree and and and it doesn't it doesn't cost 508 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: you anything, especially like that's but my thing is, that's 509 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: my trade back thing though, because it's a bonus pick. 510 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: You're not you're not sacrificing a pick. You literally have 511 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: traded back a little bit and created an extra pick, 512 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: so it's not like it's costing you another player. And 513 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: a lot of times when you're what happens and when 514 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: you're in the draft room for those that don't know, 515 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: is you'll be sitting there, um, you have your your 516 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: list ordered, right one to one fifty, and so you'll 517 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: sit there and a lot of times I can pick 518 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: forty four, you're gonna have you might have three guys 519 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: in your top twenty still sitting to this board because 520 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 1: we all rank these guys differently. So that's one of 521 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: those deals. You're at forty four saying, Okay, we've got 522 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: let's say we have four players that we really really 523 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: like that in our top thirty. We're picking forty four. 524 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: We feel like if we trade down ten spots, one 525 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: of those four guys is still going to be there. 526 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: So that's the discussion that takes place in the room 527 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: all the time, like how many do we like? Okay, 528 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: that's a pretty good number. Okay, we can slide back 529 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. We can still get one of those guys. 530 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: As we talk about the cluster buster on the show, Um, 531 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: you have a clump of players that are all similarly 532 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: graded that are sitting up there. You're looking at the 533 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: board and you're like, okay, we have eight picks. They're 534 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: like five or six of these guys there. I say 535 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: that one or two of those guys are gonna be there. 536 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: Are we comfortable with any of these guys and you 537 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 1: have the discussions. Is everybody comfortable with these guys coming 538 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: on the team, And if they are, then you're willing 539 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: to move back, pick up those picks and take them. 540 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: It's only when you feel like the board is picked dry, 541 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: if you're like and and trust me, I've i've you know, 542 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 1: you've been in there when you're say you're picking twenty 543 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: six and it gets to it gets to uh, you know, 544 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: gets to pick fifteen or whatever, and you're like, man, 545 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: they just took literally our top fourteen guys. Boom boom, 546 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: they're all gone. There are fifteen guy is still there. 547 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: And then pick sixteen comes in and that fifteenth guy 548 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: just staying. He's the only guy. You love him. He's 549 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: sitting up there like the lone wolf and you just go, oh, 550 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: come on, baby, coming come because because it's it's it's 551 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 1: a wedding in because every team values and grades players differently. 552 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: No board, no two boards look alike, and you're hoping 553 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: that those guys are available. But your strategy of accumulating 554 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: extra guys on day three um with round four in particular, 555 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: because that round is viewed as a developmental round. The 556 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: fourth round down those have viewed as developmental players, and 557 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: so you're not necessarily counting your fourth round guy to 558 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: come in and be a starter, which is why from 559 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: our standpoint, the Dak Prescott thing is uncommon because you 560 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: just don't see a fourth round quarterback as a rookie 561 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: come in and play as a starter and play as 562 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: well as he did. Because I don't care what Dallas says. 563 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: Dallas didn't pick him thinking that he was going to 564 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: be the guy that so playing at Tony Romo, like 565 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: no one can say that was behind Kellen Moore, you know, 566 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: Like so happenstance and circumstances kind of gave them the 567 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to find the guy. But it's a random occurrence, 568 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: and I think to try and duplicate that, it's going 569 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: to be tough. But but I like I like the 570 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: the idea though, of just pick around every yhere and 571 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: say we're gonna us some extra picks with this, we're 572 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: gonna get out. Does that give you enough time to 573 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: develop a guy or to know if you've got something 574 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: and a guy two years yeah, I think so that 575 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: gives you two preseasons to be able to calluate to 576 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: to see and he needs to show market improvement from 577 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: their first preseason to the second preseason to feel like 578 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: he's trending the right way. Can you see him every dame? 579 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: Can I give an interesting name? By the way, this 580 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: is getting weight. We're gonna go beyond the draft here 581 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: with this this topic, I'm getting off here, but Uh, 582 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: one name I think it's gonna be fascinating to watching 583 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: the preseason if he's healthy next year is Brett Huntley. 584 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: Brett Hunley had a lot of tools coming out of 585 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: us right now. He had a great guns, sacked a 586 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: million times, and he was he was impressive in the preseason. 587 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: If he puts another preseason together, Uh, coming up this 588 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 1: year and Aaron Rodgers got a lot of football left. 589 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: That's one of those instances. What they get him in 590 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: the fifth round, get him in the fifth round. That's 591 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: the That's the perfect example of this. So this year 592 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: back again, So this is your this is when you showcase. Yeah, 593 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: much like the Patriots kind of showcase Jimmy Garop a 594 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: little bit like, Hey, let's hey, my guy. This guy 595 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: is ready. He's ready to eat up the league and 596 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: depend on what they really think about him. I think 597 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: that I would be curious to really find out what 598 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: do they inside their building think about Jimmy Garoppolo and 599 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: if they really are willing to trade him, does that 600 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: speak about what they think about him or does it 601 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: speak volumes about what do you think about? Jacobyper said, No, 602 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: it's interesting, it's good. I just think there's a there's 603 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: a strategy involved there, and that's why I'm I'm kind 604 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: of just curious to keep following the Browns and what 605 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: they're doing and how they're setting this thing up, because 606 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: it is, you know, bringing some of that moneyball world 607 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: in now. I don't think they're committed to it is 608 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: maybe some people think um, but it'll be it'll be 609 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch them as as we go through the process. 610 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: Bucky on the last episode, or maybe it's two episodes ago, 611 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: we talked about pro Days, talked about some of our 612 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: pro day stories are pro Day experiences. I got a 613 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: text from a West Coast scout the name of that 614 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: restaurant that I would go to in San Jose that 615 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: was owned by the quarterbacks Dad was called the Chicken Coope. 616 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Did you ever go there that you don't sleep on 617 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: the Chicken coop? Chicken Chicken Coop? I don't know. If 618 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: it's still in existence. But if you're in San Jose, 619 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: check out the chicken, right, Joe, No, no, I don't know. 620 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: Grill It was a good grill. Check So, so my 621 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: thing was before Chick fil A moved down south and 622 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: established him show, the only place you get a Chick 623 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: fil A was at Cal Polly San Louis Sello, So 624 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: you would have to go to pay Polly Slow in 625 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: the student center. So that would be my Chick fil 626 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: A fixed. So coming from the south, like, that's the 627 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: only place we could get on the West coast, the 628 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: best I would go there. I would make sure I 629 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: stopped by the best, the best eating facilities on campus. 630 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: This is a different topic here, right. I don't know 631 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: how many college campus you've been to over the years. 632 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: You went to Indiana, you gotta have a good set 633 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: up there. We had a great Yeah. I mean it 634 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: was the biggest student union in the country. So was 635 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: it really good at something? Uh? I want to see 636 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: you guys have a good soccer program? Yeah, really good 637 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: about eating National championship right by the way. Eleven years 638 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: in the business, eleven years, eleven years, eleven years in 639 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: the business, coming on a twelve years oh nice, Uh 640 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: underrated eating places that school facilities most underrated b y U. 641 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: B y U has a cafe in their football facility 642 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: bucket downstairs. They have kind of the roll hall of fame. 643 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: You go up the stairs, but you can't get you 644 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: can't get it. You can't get a coke. Well here's 645 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: the thing. You can get a coke. It's caffeine free. 646 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: That's that's the only thing. Obviously. Oh yeah, you get 647 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: you get caffeine free everything, obviously. But man, great sandwiches, 648 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: b y U. Nice, nice, great service. I'd sit in there, 649 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: open up my computer, get all my work done, even 650 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: like a pro dayoop pop, pop your computer up there 651 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: and get a sandwich, type all your information and send 652 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: it in. Underrated at b y U. Um I I 653 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: used to uh on use c l A. I would 654 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: always uh have a nice little set up in there 655 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: and get somebody eat in there. Um gosh, what was 656 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: the other one? There was another one? I was just 657 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: thinking of. Well, I mean, look, I went to app State. 658 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: We had Chick fil a back in you know, North Carolina. 659 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if we had its country, 660 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: we had one. We had one of the student union. Um. 661 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: But there was another one I was thinking of. It 662 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: was a great on campus set up. What was the 663 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: name of the place? Um you're telling me about? Um 664 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: gosh up in uh Washington near Washington State. You went 665 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: with John Robinson, J rob So John Robinson is the 666 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: GM now of the of the Titans. There was a 667 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: sandwich place off campus a little bit and I would 668 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: go there all the time. It's a great sandwich spots. 669 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, so me and me and and it was 670 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: a little bit of a walk from the football facility, 671 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: but great sandwiches. So I go Jay Robs there, So 672 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: I'm like, DoD, this's go get a sandwich, all right. 673 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: So we go. We walk to this place. He had 674 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: never been there. I'm like, you're gonna love it, man, 675 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: this place is awesome. Blah blah blah. So we get 676 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: in there, we order our food and U there's like 677 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: a trade like a counter like kind of like a 678 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: salad bar like type of encounter where you kind of 679 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: walk down and place your order and then go down 680 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: to the left and pay. And then so as were 681 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: we pay and he goes he goes, dude, look I 682 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: look up in the air. This is like fly paper 683 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: over the top of the entire and it's just there 684 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: are bugs and flies stuck to this fly paper and 685 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: this room. And he was, we can't eat here, like 686 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: we can't eat your have eaten here like the last 687 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: six years. I've never seen this thing before. I didn't 688 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: notice it. So yeah, no, yeah, that was done. We 689 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: had paid for our food through it in the trash cannon. 690 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: That's funny. That was tough. I'm trying to figure ou 691 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: where where did you stay in and when you did 692 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: the Idaho Washington State? So where did you stay at 693 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: that that that best was the best Western? So here's 694 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: the there's a holiday in right by the school there 695 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 1: at Washington State, and you could do Idaho from there 696 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: as well, but it's hard to get in there. You 697 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: had to get your your reservation early on that. But 698 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: there's another place across from Idaho. I stayed in a 699 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: hotel in Idaho, which was not one of the finer 700 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: establishments that I've ever stayed, and I made that mistake 701 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: once and so then what I did from then on, 702 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: a lot of times when you go on school visits, 703 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: it's one a day, right, So you go in there 704 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: and you can't get the two schools on one day. 705 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: Oh but you can. Because when I had to do 706 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: Washington State in Idaho, I think it's like eight miles apart, 707 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: so I would I would look at their practice schedules 708 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: and I would find it. I think I might even 709 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: have done it in two days so that it could 710 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: get one in the morning and the other one in 711 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: the afternoon and just bounce. I would go stay in Spokane, 712 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: which is a little bit of a haul about an 713 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: hour a half hour and a half hour and a 714 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: half um. So I would spend the night there because 715 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: I didn't want to stay in in that other hotel 716 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: that I stayed in. I would stay there, drive over 717 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: Washington State for the morning practice, talk to some coaches, 718 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: get my background information, eight miles over Idaho, get their 719 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: afternoon practice, stay after practice, talk with the coaches, get 720 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: my background, and then drive all the way back to Spokane. 721 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: So it was a two for one special. Come all Red. 722 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of hard out there. Look, I get it in, 723 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: I get it. You gotta you gotta get you gotta 724 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: get your eats when you can. Yes, you know, ye, yeah, 725 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm what I'm noticing. Since we've done at Daniels Big 726 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,959 Speaker 1: on eating, Like if you notice all the scouting stories, 727 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: it always I found a little place here. I found 728 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: a little place because you found a little place here. 729 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: It is always the food. That's true. There's one there's 730 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: there's some scouts that this is uh amazingly still alive. 731 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: Uh that would their thing was they would eat at 732 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: a cracker barrel. And every time I'm not they used 733 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: to did you do the books on tape? I'm not 734 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: gonna no no books on tape, but I'm gonna stop 735 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: at cracker barrel wherever I find one, really like, it's 736 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: hard not to here. You don't know here. But here's 737 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: the lie. Here's the lie that they tell because crack 738 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: bils finally on Effery maybe once every couple of cracker barrel. Okay, 739 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: but here's the thing. Here's what here's what's always followed up. 740 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: And I bet you Bucky even does the same thing. 741 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: I go ahead, where'd you where'd you guys stop last night? 742 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: I went to cracker barrel? I really goes, Yeah, you 743 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: know there's some healthy options there. Like I'm like, I'm like, no, 744 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: there's not. Are you talking about? I mean, you can 745 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: get the egg wies, you get the egg They try 746 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: and sell me that they're eating all this healthy food 747 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: at the Cracker, but you get the salad with whole 748 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: bunch of cheddar cheese, a bunch of egress. So a 749 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: lot of guys would go through there though, was because 750 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: back in the day, no satellite radio any of that stuff. 751 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,959 Speaker 1: So you could go to a cracker barrel and pick 752 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: up a book on tape and like the front and 753 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: you can return it to any cracker barrel in the country. 754 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: So you would get it and listen like that. I 755 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: didn't know that. Yeah, I've been there because I used 756 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: to love to go there. And what else? The brain teasers? Yeah, 757 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: oh yeah, a little little the little golf, teath golf, 758 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: how many things? How many things could you get down? Yeah, 759 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: I was never good at that. Yeah, crack crack, cracker. 760 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: Any other foods, any other food places. I mean, you're 761 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: you're big spring on on the food places. The funny 762 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: thing is like, for the most part, that was quiz Nos, Subway, 763 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: you know whatever. Pretty um savers, baby, get my eight 764 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: dollar lunch. Their per diem savers are dependent upon the hotel, 765 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: the concierge lounge, a residence in you can have breakfast 766 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: and dinner or to pay for that. Yeah, that's big. 767 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: Coniers Lounge are also good so you can get breakfast 768 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: and also the heavier dirves late at night. The plus 769 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: the money was you had like schools that would feed you, 770 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: so they would let you just go onto the Players Medium, 771 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: I mean the big it was great with I mean, 772 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't have eleven years, only have nine. But what 773 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: I discovered, like man press box, living game can be nice. 774 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: You gotta get there. Here's the thing. Here's the thing 775 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: though about the media profession, which we all find ourselves 776 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: and rent longer than both of us eleven years in 777 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: the business. Um, the mall walker shoes. The beat reporters 778 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: have the mall walkers on and an unbelievably high percentage 779 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: of dandriff And it's the worst, um grow group of hygiene, 780 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: group of people in terms of hygiene that you will 781 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: ever come across in your entire life. UM generally the worst. 782 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: And look, you know there are plenty of guys out 783 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: there that don't fit that mold. But you know there 784 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: was a guy there was a guy for in the 785 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: city for one of the teams that I worked, the 786 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: media member that literally had bigger and McCracken's hair from 787 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,719 Speaker 1: it was just like a whirlwind and it was just 788 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: like and it was like, you know, and Christmas. They 789 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: don't know if they do anymore, Stace. When I was 790 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: a kid, we had a flocked Christmas tree, so they 791 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: put stuff on. Yeah, it was like his hair was 792 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: like just like a flocked Christmas tree. And then you 793 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: know you're getting into the scrums, right, So you're all 794 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: up in at Tom Brady. You know, for the most part, 795 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: for a couple of years, only wanted to talk at 796 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: his locker. So you got fifty people like Crammed. They're different. 797 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: Do you need the hot dogs at halftime? Do not 798 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: do that on occasion? On occasion? Yeah, not every time. 799 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: I mean Baltimore you get the crab cake. That was nice. 800 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: Carolina get a little pulled pork sandwich. Response, Yes, I 801 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: will say the the peach cobbler at a either a 802 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: Falcons game or at a bowl game in Atlantic, I 803 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: will so when the Falcons man, I've had a lot 804 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: of draft talk here a lot of five years, I'd 805 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: go into like the Chick fil A either the bowl 806 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: game or the kickoff. Yeah, you're right there, Peach, I 807 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: went like I go every year you have to get 808 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 1: there early because because I like I like the crust 809 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: at the top, you get that. You gotta get there early. 810 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: You don't want it to be to Yeah. Are you 811 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: looking at the at the the Chick fil A game 812 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: this year? I don't know who's playing, but where's the 813 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: cobbler at? Jump on that real quick? All right, look, 814 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: I think we got we got a roll here. Let's 815 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: get our interview with Joshua Dobbs. Rhet, thank you so much. 816 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: Eleven years in the business, still as humble as it gets. Hey, 817 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: we'll see in a couple of hours path of the draft. 818 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: Oh nice. Oh and by the way, it's uh, today's 819 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: a pretty significant day, very significant. I don't know if 820 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: you knew this, Bucky. Today it's National Puppy Day. Hey, 821 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: Happy National Puppy Day. I hope you have a wonderful day. 822 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: Enjoy our conversation here with josh Dobbs. Also Rhet's birthday. 823 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: Tennessee quarterback Joshua Dobbs going to join us via skype. Heer, Joshua, 824 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: how are you doing, man? I'm doing well. How are 825 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: you guys doing? I'm doing great. I'm gonna let Bucky 826 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: run here because this Bucky has been talking about you forever. 827 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: You guys, go way back, Go ahead, Buck, The floor 828 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: is yours. Hey, So, Joshua, So, now that you've gone 829 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: through the process and you're on the verge of becoming 830 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback, talk about the process in general. How's 831 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: it been from the end of the season, going to 832 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowls in the Combine to get ready to 833 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: have hopefully your name called on Draft Day. Right, It's 834 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: it's really been everything I've imagined it would be, starting 835 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 1: with the Senior Bowl and preparations for the Senior Bowl, 836 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: going down for your around the NFL offense and being 837 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: around the top seniors across the nation. It was a 838 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 1: lot of fun to go out and compete and put 839 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: together a great week, and then to go on and 840 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: prepare to go to the Combine, and of course you 841 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: know it's a long week up in Indy, but you 842 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: get opportunity to meet UH scouts, coaching staffs, QB coaches, 843 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: offensive coordinates from across the league. It is an amazing experience. 844 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: And then you need to go out again and compete 845 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: um throw and had another great week up there. So 846 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: now it's time to finish it off with a pro 847 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: day and a couple of individual team visits and enjoyed 848 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: the process as well and get ready for draft Day. Okay, 849 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: so I want to go back and talk about your 850 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: week and your experience at the Senior Bowl. Um coming 851 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: out of her spread offense. A lot of times scouts 852 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: and evaluated we wonder if guys can make the transition. 853 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: You had an opportunity to take, you know, kind of 854 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: get a jump on that by having pro coaching. What 855 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: was that experience like going from a spread offensive playbook 856 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: to an NFL playbook and NFL coaching. I felt like 857 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 1: Tennessee really prepared me to make that transition smoothly. When 858 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: you when you got down there and you don't into 859 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: the playbook. It was cool because the same place I 860 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: was running at the Senior Bowl, we're the same place 861 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: that had been running throughout my time at Tennessee. You know, 862 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: a couple of different variants, different reads, of course, but 863 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: same concepts and same schemes. So it's cool to see that, 864 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: you know, I've been in the offense that we might 865 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 1: have been in the shotgun of course all the time, 866 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: and not under center less than five place shout the year, 867 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: but we're still running the same schemes and same reads, 868 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: whether it was a straight progression read progression with option 869 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: um duals I read. We're still running those reads in 870 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: college and I will continue to run those at the 871 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: next level. Are you talking about the Senior Bowl there, guys? 872 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: How about let's go to the Combine. We've Bucky and I. 873 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: You know, in our scouting background, we like to tell 874 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: our listeners our viewers about what goes on kind of 875 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. So you just walk into a room 876 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,720 Speaker 1: there at the Crown Plaza, at the at the combine 877 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: you're getting go on a team interview or the train station, 878 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: either place, kind of walk us through, walk to folks 879 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 1: through what goes on in that setting, right, so you 880 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: walk your formal interviews and informal interviews and formal interviews 881 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: are only fifteen minutes. So you walk in and there 882 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: could be anyone from the owner, GM, head coach, offensive coordinator, 883 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: quarterback coach, scouts in the rooms. About ten guys in 884 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: the room and one chair and a projector screen. And 885 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: so the play is called up and so you'll talk 886 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: about yourself about five minutes. You maybe watch film for 887 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: five minutes, and the next five minutes you're on the board, 888 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: talking through your offense or talking through coverages or whatever 889 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: they want to see. And then so it's quick, it's 890 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: like speed dating, fifteen minutes in and out. And then 891 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: the informal interviews are in the train station and so 892 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: it's really just like The Wild Wild Left. It's a 893 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: giant room, thirty two tables, coaches from each team, and 894 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: you walk in, You scan yourself in so they can 895 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: see you're in the room, and at any moment anyone 896 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: can grab you. So you just have to be on 897 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: your toes, ready to go, ready to go in and 898 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: talk to people. Remember the first day being in there, 899 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,879 Speaker 1: walked in at seven o'clock right after dinner, didn't leave 900 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: till eleven, NonStop talking. So it goes, it goes all night. 901 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: But it's it's it's a part of the process, and 902 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: it's it's enjoyable because you get opportunity just to meet 903 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: a lot of different people, a lot of different coaches, 904 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: pick their brain, they pick your brain, and see how 905 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: you guys bond and fit together. Well. Obviously, being a 906 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 1: Tennessee volunteer, I can't have an interview without talking about 907 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: kind of the the opportunity that you've had to learn 908 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: from Payton Manning. Paid Manning obviously comes back. You've had 909 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: a chance to participate in his camps. What are some 910 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: of the things that you've been able to take from 911 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: him as a role model as a leader that can 912 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: help you succeed at the next level. The biggest thing 913 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: I've been able to take from Payton has been, you know, 914 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: to be a great quarterback one you have to be 915 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: the greatest preparer on the field and the greatest communicator 916 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: on the field. He's come back and spend time with 917 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback starts time and we were in the classroom. 918 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: I remember we spend an hour and a half just 919 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 1: talking about his pre snap, a mindset, what he's looking 920 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: for when he gets the line, going back to his preparation, 921 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: how he prepares throughout the week, and then how he's 922 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: communicating what he's seeing with his teammates, so everyone's on 923 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: the same page and offense able to run efficiently. And 924 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 1: then you know, you got on the field and you're 925 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: able to see that there's never a race of rep. 926 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: Whether it's pattent go, whether it's quick game, whether it's 927 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: dropped back passing, or each rep, he has an intention mind, 928 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 1: you know where in pattern going he's working the safety 929 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: and throwing you know, whole shots or throwing a two 930 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 1: ball or throwing a go on the outside, just to 931 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: work the different types with throws, different reads, and different footworks. 932 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,240 Speaker 1: So you learn, you know, just how to prepare really 933 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: whether it's in the classroom or on the field. And 934 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: it definitely shows why he's an all time great quarterback. 935 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: It's a pretty good mentor to have right there in 936 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. All right, Joshua, how about the uh, the 937 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: greatest hardship that you've had to overcome in your life 938 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 1: is what I would say. There's a couple My mom 939 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: has been a wheelchair and since I was five, so 940 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 1: she's gone through a lot of adversity and it's kind 941 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: of you know, has molded me and shaped my mindset 942 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 1: throughout diversity of alopecia. So throughout college, Um, I suffer 943 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, hair loss, and so you know, when you're 944 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: eighteen and you don't grow hair's kind of you know, 945 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: weird of course. So you know, going through that on 946 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: the college stage and being you know, on a public platform, 947 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: it could be tough at sometimes just because there's a 948 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: lot of ignorance in the world. So learning just how 949 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: to deal with UM noise and how to deal with 950 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: the outside noise that you can't control, and just focusing 951 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: on what you can control. I learned a lot from 952 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: my mom because you know, obviously she didn't ask to 953 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: be in a wheelchair, but she has an amazing mindset, 954 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,439 Speaker 1: an amazing attitude each and every day that no matter what, 955 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: she can do whatever she wants and she and nothing 956 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: can stop her. And that's her mindset. She shouldn't get 957 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: everything done in the day that she needs to, no 958 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: matter what's going to try to inhibit her from doing that. 959 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: And so that's my same mindset that at the end 960 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: of the day, I just focus on what I can control, 961 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: whether that's someone you know talking about me off the field, 962 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: talking about UM doubting my ability on the field. That 963 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, everyone's entitled to their 964 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: own opinion, and you know, I might not I agree 965 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 1: with that, but you know I'll I'll respect your opinion 966 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: and then go about my business and just focus on 967 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: me and focus on what I can control in the end. Okay, 968 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: So to balance that, what has been your greatest highlight 969 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 1: of your career? The greatest highlight of my career will 970 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: be uh well, when I graduate UM in May, walking 971 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: across the stage UM. Have completed a five year degree 972 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: in four years Aerospace Engineer with minor and business and 973 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: then also on top of that, winning SEC Player of 974 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,919 Speaker 1: the Year this year in the SEC. So being able 975 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,760 Speaker 1: to get it done both on and off the field, 976 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: and then it being excited to take the next step 977 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: in my life and being an NFL quarterback. I can't 978 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait to to just be a professional football player. 979 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see what the future holds. But 980 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 1: I'll also be excited to walk across the stage and may. 981 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 1: All right, this is our third ah question. We've done 982 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: this with all the prospects we've had through I think 983 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: by the answer to your hardship question, I know the 984 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: answer to this one. But who's your hero? Who's my hero? 985 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: My hero are easily my parents, both of them. I know. 986 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: My parents come from you know, humble beginnings and their 987 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: self made people just throughout their work through their work 988 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: ethic broth. My mom and dad, they work hard each 989 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: and every day. My Dad's worked his way to the 990 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: senior vice president job at Wells Fargo and my mom 991 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 1: was very successful in ups and then she helps me 992 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: out of course a lot, you know nowadays. So I'm 993 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: very thankful to have to very supportive, motivating parents that 994 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: I definitely get a lot of inspiration from them, and 995 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm very thankful to have them in my life. I 996 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,920 Speaker 1: think he found a question for me. Is a lot 997 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: of times when we said for prospects, we want to 998 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: kind of figure out the why. So I want to 999 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: know why would you be successful as a franchise quarterback. 1000 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: Obviously successful for because one, I'm the most competitive guideline 1001 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: stuff on the field and to be a quarterback, and 1002 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: I set the temperament in my competitive spirit, how I 1003 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: approach each and every day to be the best you 1004 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: know too. Of course, I'm very confident in my skills 1005 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: and abilities. I know how I have the skills abilities 1006 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: to be successful quarterback at the next level where whether 1007 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,280 Speaker 1: it's the arm, strength of footwork, the actress, the ability 1008 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: to compete, the ability to make the big time throw, 1009 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: we need it in a big time situation when your 1010 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: team is down, you need to bring them back. I've 1011 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: done that and I will continue to do that. And 1012 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: then I understand that being a quarterback requires you to 1013 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: be a leader. So and being leader, you have to 1014 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: understand your teammates, create a relationship with your teammates, but 1015 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: also you have to set the tone each and every 1016 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: day and your team mus have to respect that from you, 1017 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: and you have to bring it. Whether it's you know, 1018 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: you're coming off a great day or we're coming off 1019 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: a load day. You still have to bring it each 1020 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: and every day. So you know understand what it takes 1021 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: to be on a successful quarterback like I've I've seen it. 1022 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: I've been the face of a program, understand what it's 1023 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: like to be a face on an organization, and I 1024 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: bring a competitive spirit that's really unmatched. And so I'm 1025 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: excited to see what the future holds. All Right, Joshua, 1026 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: this is my last question. This is for our producer 1027 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 1: who's evolved. I need you to describe the feeling after 1028 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: the Florida game and three words. I'll give you three 1029 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: words to describe the feeling after the Florida game. I 1030 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: just knew one unbelievable. It was. It was a crazy 1031 00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: game to be down until you one to three. It 1032 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: just shows showed the competitive nature of our team that 1033 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, we just weren't going to be denied, and 1034 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 1: we fought throughout the game. We fall all the way 1035 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 1: back where we'll come back and win. Obviously, it was 1036 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: eleven long years without a win against the Gators, so 1037 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: it's great to bring it. Bringing the dub back to Knoxville. 1038 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: That's outstanding. Hey, Joshua, we wish you the best of 1039 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: luck as you go through the rest of this process. 1040 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 1: We look forward to following your journey and and uh 1041 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: really excited for the future. Man. Thank you, thank you 1042 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: very much. I appreciate it. Joshua Dobbs. What an impressive 1043 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: young man, Bucky. Yeah, really impressive on and off the field. 1044 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: I think he is a guy that certainly made some 1045 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: strides as a player during his time at Tennessee, and 1046 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 1: I think the momentum is certainly building. Did you have 1047 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: a chance to continue to career in the least? Yeah, 1048 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: you look. Maturity is the word that comes to my mind. 1049 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: Very just what a mature guy. UM really wish him 1050 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: the best. Good chatting with him. Nice to have Rhett 1051 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: Lewis in UH to join us today. By the way, 1052 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,320 Speaker 1: for those that aren't in on the joke here, Rhets 1053 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 1: said in passing a couple of days ago that I 1054 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: mentioned that he had eleven years in the business, which 1055 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: I've continued to make fun of him and mock him 1056 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: for ever since. So anytime he's on the show or 1057 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: anytime I've ever around and we will reference his eleven 1058 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: years in the business. So there you go, eleven years, 1059 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: eleven years in. I'm only five years in, you know. 1060 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 1: So anyways, that's that's gonna do it for us to say, Hey, 1061 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 1: thanks you guys for listening, thanks for downloading the podcast, 1062 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: and please do us a favor if you haven't already, 1063 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,800 Speaker 1: go on iTunes and and leave us a rating or 1064 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: a review on there. Uh, that really helps us there. 1065 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: You guys have really helped us out a lot with that, 1066 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 1: so really do appreciate it. And our Juna. This is 1067 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: our Junah's last, last last here for us here, our 1068 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 1: Juna is moving on to bigger and better things that 1069 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: we are. We are a We're just kind of like 1070 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: a developmental league and then we just we send out 1071 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: our talent out NL Europe. Now I think we're gonna 1072 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 1: go d Leegu, You're gonna go NFL Europe, Deeley. Isn't 1073 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: that becoming the G League? Yeah? Whatever qualifies. Anyways, our Juna, 1074 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: how long have you have you worked on this show here? 1075 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: So I've been here. This is my second season NFL. 1076 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: This is month seven on the show. So I started 1077 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: in September from the sticks when we started all of 1078 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 1: our YouTube content or game previews and all that type 1079 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah. So he has been instrumental in in 1080 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: the content that we have produced here and the ideas 1081 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 1: and and really a lot of hard work that's gone 1082 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,759 Speaker 1: into U this show. You guys, don't You don't get 1083 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: to see that or don't get to hear about that, 1084 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: all the preparation that goes into it. And our June 1085 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,319 Speaker 1: has been awesome. We're gonna wish we're gonna miss him, 1086 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: but we wish him the best going forward. And uh, 1087 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: don't be a stranger man. You're welcome back here anytime. Awesome, 1088 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: I'll be back. All right, We're gonna have him. We're 1089 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 1: gonna have a death match between him and t D 1090 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,680 Speaker 1: former producer. Oh yeah, we're thinking that cage match and 1091 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: we'll see who gets to come back first. At least 1092 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't have his workouts on video like TD. Yeah that, 1093 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't do that. Yeah, Instagram. Instagram loving basketball, 1094 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 1: don't do that all right? Hey, look that's gonna do 1095 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: it for us again. Please do us a favor, leave 1096 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: us a rating or review on iTunes, and be sure 1097 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: to check out our video content on YouTube and we 1098 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: will be back next week. We'll see that. Thanks for 1099 00:47:55,960 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 1: downloading Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 1100 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 1: For more, go to NFL dot com Slash Podcasts