1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're kicking 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Skyguide to the curb and hitting the clurb with the 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Chicago Sky's new mascot, Skye the Lioness. On today's show, 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: we'll be chatting with tennis player Taylor Townsend about being 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: a Wimbledon doubles champ, how she adjusts when shit goes sideways, 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: and all the good things that can come from sliding 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 1: into someone's dms. Plus a profound message on retirement and 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: an example we should all follow. It's all coming up 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back, my little slices. Here's what 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: you need to know today. It was such a busy weekend. 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: We've got some good stuff that didn't fit in yesterday's 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: show to get to. First, we finished recording yesterday's at 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: before the epic conclusion to the Seattle Rain game against 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: the North Carolina Courage. So let's take a minute to 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: highlight how that one played out, because the fairytale story 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: basically wrote itself. So first, a beautiful ceremony for Megan Rappino, 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: the first player in Rain history to have her jersey retired. 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: There was an awesome video with messages from people like 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: Michelle Akers, Ali Krieger, at e Ved Maclamore, Colin Kaepernick, 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: Jewel Lloyd, and Rapino in her speech said in part 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: about looking up at her number fifteen in the rafters, quote, 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 1: I look at that number, and I'll be thinking about 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: every one of you. Every Pride flag, every trans Writes flag, 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: every Black Lives Matter flag, every Equal Pay flag, every 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: Portland flag. End quote. Perfect perfect, It's perfectly Pino. Then 26 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: the game happened, and Seattle beat the Courage one nil 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: on a goal and stoppage time couldn't have ended more perfectly. 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: So. 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: Teenager Emory Adamas got her head on a cross sending 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: it toward goal, where it bounced off the post and 31 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: off Courage goalkeeper Casey Murphy. It technically counts as an 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: old goal, but Adamas earned her sally, and of course 33 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: she busted out the iconic Rapino arms out pose and 34 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: looked up at Pino in the stands cheering her on. 35 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: So cool, But it wasn't just the pose that made 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: it super special. So earlier in the day, the eighteen 37 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: year old a Damas posted a photo to her Instagram 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: that she took with Raupino a few years ago when 39 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: she was just a kid. She wasn't even up to 40 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: Pino shoulder. Fast forward, she's in the league, she's on 41 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: Pinos old team, she's scoring on her jersey retirement night 42 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: Chef's kiss, and after the game, Adamas said, quote, I 43 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna throw up. I'm so excited. I have 44 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: so much adrenaline right now. When everyone was running up 45 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: to me after the game, I thought that I'm just 46 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: going to wake up and be in my bed, like 47 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: I actually thought I was dreaming. End quote. Also cool, 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: longtime Rain coach Laura Harvey got her one hundredth NWSL 49 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: win with that game too. What a night In NWSL news. 50 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: If you listen to our conversation with Players Association President 51 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: Tory Huster and executive director Megan Burke on Monday show, 52 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: you'll recall that Burke said that the new CBA will 53 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: lead to a quote free agent frenzy well. On Monday, 54 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: the NWSLPA released the initial list of free agents who 55 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: will be eligible to renegotiate new contracts starting on September first, 56 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: and the list includes eighty eight names, but the Players 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: Association indicated that even more names will be added ahead 58 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: of September first, likely because everyone still needs a little 59 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: time to read through the content language and confirm eligibility 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: based on the new CBA changes. Also on Monday, some 61 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: trade news World Cup champ Abby Dalkemper is headed to 62 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: BAYFC via a trade with the San Diego Wave, with 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: the Wave receiving fifty thousand dollars in allocation money. According 64 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: to ESPN's Jeff cassoof Dalkemper requested the trade so the 65 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: Waves tough times continue. The team also dropped their first 66 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: regular season game under new interim head coach Landon Donovan 67 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: to Softball Athletes Unlimited, Softball crowned it's twenty twenty four 68 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: champion on Sunday night, with Amanda Lorenz taking home the 69 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: an individual season title. Lorenz led the five week tournament 70 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: since week three. In her fifty one at bats, she 71 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: recorded nineteen hits, including three home runs. After winning the crown, Lorenz, 72 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: who graduated from Florida in twenty nineteen and is a 73 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: two time world medalist with USA Softball, credited Athletes Unlimited 74 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: with helping so many players continue to compete. Quote. I 75 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: don't really have the words right now, just thankful for 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: this league and to keep playing this game. So let's 77 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: take a minute to talk about what it means to 78 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: be a pro softball player, because while Athletes Unlimited has 79 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: been a great option for these athletes, and there's a 80 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: couple other pro options too, it's still so tough to 81 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: make ends meet in this sport, especially because of its 82 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: up and down Olympic status and because the professional leagues 83 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: are relatively young. There's a whole bunch of players that 84 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: we retired at the conclusion of this AU season that 85 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: really didn't get as much do as they should have, 86 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: including Olympic silver medallist Haley mclenny, ten year pro Sam Fisher, 87 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: and Tokyo Olympian Seshell Palacios. On Sunday, an honor of 88 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: the season's end and of those players saying goodbye, fantastic 89 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: AU reporter Savannah Collins re shared a powerful video from 90 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It was mclenny reciting a poem written by 91 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: AU pro Janie Reid about what it means to retire 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: from the game. Janie was too shy to read it 93 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: that day, so McClenny read it for her. Take a listen. 94 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: Women at exit the game differently, some of the greatest, 95 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: most talented players snuck out quietly, the same amount of 96 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: practices games flies with their parents on the way home 97 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 3: in the car, but a different level of recognition for 98 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 3: the blood, sweat and battle scars. We don't get the 99 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 3: pension plan for playing tenures in the show. We just 100 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 3: slowly assimilate into a job working. 101 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: With people who don't even know. 102 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: But it's truly changing now, and it started with this group. 103 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: The last six weeks are incredible stories played. 104 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: On a loop. 105 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: People might get it now, and people might know that 106 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: the best in the world deserve to be treated like pros. 107 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: That we're not just athletes who play on dirt, but 108 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: difference makers, world changers, strong women willing to put in 109 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: the work. So thank you for the hours, days, months 110 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 3: and years of dedication. Your career deserves to be celebrated 111 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: and showered with appreciation. 112 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: It hits a little different hear in it now with 113 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 1: mclenny herself being the one hanging it up, but the 114 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: message is so true across so many sports. The same 115 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: time effort, love, grit, pain and work as male pro athletes, 116 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: but in most cases even more sacrifice with less fame 117 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: and less monetary gain. Also, I personally want to give 118 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: a shout out to Sam Fisher because she's one of 119 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: my favorites. She's a woman whose softball prowess is second 120 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: only to her incredible sense of humor. She dances at 121 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: the plate, she screams hot dogs, and she just wants 122 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: someone to match her freaking shin bruises from fouling it 123 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: off her leg. I made her promise not to go 124 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: into hiding post retirement because we need her voice, we 125 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: need her perspective, we need her jokes. So go give 126 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: her a follow I promise you won't regret it. At 127 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: Sam Fisher fifty two on Insta. That's Fisher with a 128 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: C fisc hr. Congrat Sam. All right, it's time for 129 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: another edition of Yes and Yes, and the US Open 130 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: is in full swing. And before the tournament began, we 131 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: were lucky enough to be joined by Taylor Townsend, who's 132 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: competing in both singles and doubles. Growing up, Townsend idolized 133 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: Serena and Venus Williams, even telling her uncle that she 134 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: was going to grow up to be better than them. 135 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: She's one of many black tennis players who have cited 136 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: that William's sisters as role models, and rightfully so. But 137 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: we got to acknowledge another star that changed the game 138 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: many years earlier, and it's one who helped inspire Venus 139 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: and Serena too. We're talking about Althea Gibson. Born in 140 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty seven, Gibson grew up in Harlem, where she 141 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: was introduced to tennis at the Cosmopolitan Club, a black 142 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 1: tennis club, and quickly began beaten all the club's members. 143 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: According to a twenty twenty two New York Times story 144 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: that we'll link to in the show notes, club members 145 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: helped her raise money so she could attend tournaments sponsored 146 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: by the American Tennis Association, a league for black players, 147 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: but for years, the most prestigious competitions remained out of 148 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: reach for Althea Gibson. While US Tennis rules technically prohibited 149 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: racial discrimination, a bunch of the qualifying events for the 150 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: US National Championships, the event now known as the US Open, 151 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: were held at white only country clubs, thus rendering the 152 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: so called anti discrimination rules pretty moot. Following intense lobbying 153 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: from fellow players and ATA officials, Gibson finally broke tennis's 154 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: color barrier in nineteen fifty by competing at the US 155 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: Open and in nineteen five fifty seven, she became the 156 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: first Black American to win the tournament. In total, she 157 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: won eleven Grand Slam titles during her career, and then 158 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 1: when she retired from tennis, she became the first African 159 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: American woman to join the LPGA Tour. At one point, 160 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: she even toured with the Harlem Globetrotters and played exhibition matches. 161 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: She was inducted into the International Tennis Hall of Fame 162 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy one and even later served as Commissioner 163 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: of Athletics for the State of New Jersey. In nineteen 164 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: ninety nine, Serena Williams faxed Gibson a list of questions 165 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: relating to a school project she was working on, and 166 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: just months later, Serena won the US Open, becoming just 167 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: the second black woman to win the tournament, following in 168 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: al Thea Gibson's footsteps, So yes, Serena and Venus and 169 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: Althea Gibson, which brings us full circle right back to 170 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: Taylor Townsend, who stands on all of their shoulders. She 171 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: joined a couple days ago and advanced of the US Open, 172 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: which started on Monday. She won her opening round singles 173 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: match and also has doubles coming up beginning on Wednesday. 174 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: You'll hear from her next joining us now. She's a 175 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: professional tennis player who's been ranked as high as number 176 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: forty six in singles and number five in doubles. She 177 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: won her first Grand Slam title at Wimbledon this year 178 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: with partner Katerina Siniakova. She's a Chicago native stand up, 179 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: she's a mom, and she just played doubles with actor 180 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: Boris Kojo in Stars of the Open on Wednesday night. 181 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: If you don't know who that is, go ahead and 182 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: google him. You're welcome, ladies and gents. Let's start with 183 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: the important stuff. Taylor Townsend, what great are we giving 184 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: Boris as a tennis player? 185 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: I give him like a beat plus plus, Like I 186 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 2: was impressed. 187 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. 188 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: It good serve he made his sers. You know, I 189 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: just need to get the defibrillator out after the long points. 190 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: But that was time I thought you were gonna say 191 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: from looking at him, because I'll tell you he came 192 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: into the restaurant I worked in once when I was 193 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: like twenty five, and I about dropped all the silverwear 194 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: and couldn't speak. So I'm impressed, Yeah, there. 195 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: Are a lot of women that were like, hey, son, 196 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: gives him my number, and I told him that. I 197 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: was like, I have a lot of females that are 198 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: requesting me to give them their content information. 199 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: So good. Let's talk about Wimbledon, because you came up 200 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: just short in two Grand Slam finals before coming out 201 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: on top this year. What was the difference and how 202 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: did it feel to raise that trophy? 203 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it was spectacular. You know. I went 204 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 2: into that like knowing I'm like, this is mine, Like 205 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be denied again, you know, like, 206 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: and I just felt like it was different. But I 207 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: was a different person, you know, getting basically having one 208 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: Grand Slam final per year since coming back from my 209 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 2: son US Open twenty two, French Open twenty three, you know, 210 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: getting so close, but you know I wasn't who I 211 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 2: am now, and I feel like I was. You know, 212 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: all of those experiences helped me to be able to 213 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: manage that moment, but then also like to be able 214 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 2: to receive everything that comes along with being a Grand 215 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: Slam champion. You know, that's not really a lot of 216 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 2: things that are talked about. You know, you play and 217 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: you know you do the best that you can in 218 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: hopes that you get to this place, but like it's 219 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: a lot that comes with it, and you know, maybe 220 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: I wasn't ready to handle those things at that time. 221 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: So you know, now I am, which is which is spectacular. 222 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wild. Do you like pick up the biggest 223 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: responsibility you've ever had and suddenly it's like, maybe tennis 224 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: isn't that big of a deal after all. Maybe I'll 225 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: just go out there and play. Because all three of 226 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: your Grand Slam final appearances have come after the birth 227 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: of your son, Aidan Aubrey in twenty twenty one, I'm wondering, like, 228 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: maybe that boy gave you some superpowers because you're just like, oh, tennis, 229 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: tennis is tennis, I got other things. 230 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: Definitely have given me superpowers. I keep saying that. I 231 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: was like, I have superpowers, Oh, and I believe it. 232 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, just overall, just perspective I think 233 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 2: has been the game changer for me, and just understanding 234 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: and knowing that, like there's something bigger than just the sport. 235 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: And you know, tennis, a lot of people play, start 236 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: playing when they're three four years old, and you know 237 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: you're in it and when you want to be a professional, 238 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: and people know that as such a young age, like 239 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: everything is tailored to that. So you really grow up 240 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: in this life and you miss a lot of experiences, 241 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: and so sometimes it's hard to differentiate between real life 242 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: quote unquote and you know, your profession, because this is 243 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: your life. It consumes so much of our time, our energy, 244 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: our efforts. I mean, I spend more time with my 245 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: team than I do with my family and my son, 246 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: you know, so like I've seen my team more than 247 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: I've seen my child this year. So like it really 248 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: consumes just about every part of, you know, our being. 249 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 2: So being able to step away from eight for eighteen 250 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: months and just kind of gain that perspective that just 251 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: it did wonders for me because I just realized, like, yeah, 252 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: it doesn't like winning and losing, Like isn't that big 253 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: of a deal. Of course I'm a competitor. Yeah, yeah, 254 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: I hate to lose, But overall, I understand that there's 255 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: a bigger you know, a bigger picture, which is I 256 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: feel like that's just priceless, honestly. 257 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. You mentioned in an interview at Wimbledon that you 258 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: partner up with Katerina via DMS. She slid into your DMS. Also, 259 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: your management team slid into your DMS. So I'm wondering, 260 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: it's been a few months since Wimbledon, have we had 261 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,359 Speaker 1: any more meaningful life changing DM hookups? 262 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: I have. I'm not going to give you guys that tea, 263 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 2: but I have. But it's like, I feel like I've 264 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 2: owed this because like it's been so many that have 265 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: been so bad. So I feel like she's had to 266 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: eventually intern Oh this sounds spicy. 267 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe you're not telling us. 268 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 2: No, I keep that stuff tight to the chest earth. 269 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: All right, Well, at least we know what to go 270 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: digging for. Now, we know there's something there to go 271 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: digging for. 272 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: No, just now that like the like the scales half 273 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 2: the balance, Yes, okay, when it's like this eventually, okay, 274 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: so it start good. 275 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: That's good news for everyone out there that hasn't been 276 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: getting the good dms. What was the toughest part about 277 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: coming back to the game after pregnancy after your son's rival. 278 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: The toughest part was probably like the psychological, like management, 279 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: and because there were so many changes that were occurring 280 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 2: at like once, so you know, like new mom, like 281 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: mom guilt of like when I started coming back and 282 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: like training and everything, like having to really like be selfish. 283 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: And you know, when you become a parent, like everything 284 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: is opposite of that, you know, especially a mother where 285 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: I'm like I'm nursing and you know, all this stuff 286 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: is like everything is about this baby. And so like 287 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: getting to the place where I'm like, Okay, this is 288 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: my time, you know, Like so becoming selfish in terms 289 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: of like my time, the changes that of like the 290 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: person that I made and like the person that I 291 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: had to become in order to be in this place 292 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: sitting here talking to you. Like I said to my coach, 293 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I'm going to be better than 294 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: I was when I left. But I had no idea 295 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: what that meant. And like all the and of course 296 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: I knew that it was going to be hard work, 297 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: but I didn't really understand the depth of like who 298 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 2: I was going to have to become in order to 299 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: be in this position, because I was asking something of 300 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 2: myself that I had never done before. So I was 301 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: like it was uncharted territory. But like it's been so 302 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: fun and it's been so difficult, but worth it. 303 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the tennis world, whether that's the media or the 304 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: USTA or even the fan base is not always known 305 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: for being sensitive, for asking the right questions, for being 306 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: understanding of people's lives, and you personally have had issues 307 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: with some of those entities in the past. How has 308 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: it been for you in the last couple of years. 309 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: Have you felt like you've also had to deal with 310 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: that bs. 311 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: No, And that was one of the things that like 312 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: I really put behind me. It was a learning lesson 313 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: and you know, I feel like I handled it the 314 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: best way that I could at fifteen years old. Yeah, 315 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: but ultimately, like the blessing is again we talked about 316 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: like the things turning around, like being in a position 317 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: where you know, I wasn't supported and now I'm like 318 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: wildly supported. I have such a great village of people 319 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: around me that are like high quality people. So it's 320 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: just like how that's turned around in terms of just 321 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: like feeling for so many years that I'm out here 322 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: by myself having to survive to now being in a 323 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: position where I have such great people around me on 324 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: so many levels, you know, management, coaching, personal, you know 325 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: everything like family, where I'm just so supported and so 326 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: loved and so it's just like that stuff is so 327 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: insignificant to me when I look at my life now, 328 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: But I also will never disregard it because the lesson 329 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: was so valuable. Yeah, that's so cool and it was difficult, 330 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: but you know it's so worth it. 331 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're so supported now. That's so good to hear. 332 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: You said recently that your doubles ranking won't be higher 333 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: than you're sing for long. 334 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: Tell us why, Yeah, because I know what I can do. 335 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: I know who I am, I know the kind of 336 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: player that I am, and you know I know what 337 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 2: I'm doing on and off the court, So it's just 338 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: a matter of time. And I think that you know, 339 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: I'm at my the newest career high forty six. I 340 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 2: have again uncharted territory, has never been here before. But 341 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: I know that I'm a top five top like the 342 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: top five player easily. So you know, my highest doubles 343 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 2: dranking is five. So that's my role. Let's get there 344 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 2: and then see what happened. But I know, I know 345 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: that that's a that's a that's very attainable, and everyone 346 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 2: in my can't knows that as well. So we're just 347 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: continuing to keep our head gap, putting in the work 348 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 2: pounding the stone and we know that eventually it. 349 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: Okay, you've had different partners for doubles, so you've had 350 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: to practice chemistry and style and everything else. Is it 351 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 1: tougher to focus on singles when you're dedicating time and 352 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: energy to both. 353 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 2: No, because I've I've always played any tournament that I've 354 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: played in, I've always played singles. So that's why I 355 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: was like, I hope that I'm yeah, working to change 356 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: that where it's just like, oh, you have to be 357 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 2: one or the other. Like tennis is, it's very linear. 358 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 2: So sometimes they I mean not sometimes all the time. 359 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: They try to put you in a box, right, and 360 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: so it's like this box, Okay, you're a doubles player. Oh, 361 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: you're really good at double see probably focusing more on doubles. No, 362 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: every single tournament that I go to, I'm playing singles 363 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 2: and doubles. Singles first, doubles come after that, and it's just, 364 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 2: you know, it just happens that at this time and 365 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: over the last couple of years, I've had success in doubles, 366 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 2: but that doesn't overshadow like that. I'm still playing singles, 367 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, and I've accomplished two times over in 368 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: the course of this year that I've accomplished like career 369 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 2: high rankings, Like I broke it to the top fifty 370 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: and now I've broken like inside out forty six. Like, 371 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: so I'm hitting my markers in singles. You know, it's 372 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: just happening. Not at the same pace as doubles. Yeah, 373 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: but you know, there's never a tie where I feel 374 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: conflicted because I know my priority. 375 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: It gives you confidence. I'm sure when you're standing in 376 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: the winner circle, you're holding that trophy, you're on top 377 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: of the tennis world. Even if it is doubles you 378 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: go back to singles with I would imagine a little 379 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: bit of extra confidence and like feeling yourself. 380 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: A little bit totally and like I I again, I 381 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 2: hope that kind of an example of like changing that 382 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: thought process. It's like a match is a match, Like 383 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: that's how I grew up. Imagine matt is a match 384 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: ac court to court, ball's ball. As long as it 385 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: crosses over than that, you can do what you like, 386 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: you can you can do your stuff on your you know. 387 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: So it's like again just trying to change that linear 388 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: perspective of like, oh, like doubles is this, singles is this, 389 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: you can't do both, like no, And at the end 390 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 2: of the day, like I said this, I was like, 391 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 2: I don't care if it's a doubles Grand Slam, it's 392 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: a Grand Slam, it's Wimbledon. 393 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, like there's one Wimbledon. 394 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: There's really nothing that anybody can tell to try and 395 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 2: like to undermine my accomplishment because I know what that is. Like, 396 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: so's it's literally, I don't care if it's singles, doubles, 397 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: mixed doubles, wheelchair anything like, it's the accomplishment is the 398 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: accomplishment because the work that you put in in order 399 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: to achieve that is monumental. And at the end of 400 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 2: the day, you had to execute from start to finish, 401 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: from the beginning of the tournament to the end, which 402 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: is the same thing that everybody in the event has 403 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: to do. But you're the last one or last two standings. 404 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: So that says something. That's how I look at it. 405 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, So US opens coming up. Is there extra special 406 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: focus or does it mean something extra special to do 407 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: well at this tournament here in the States? The biggest 408 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: thing that we've got. 409 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, I mean, and I always have such a 410 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: great time like here in New York. Like the energy 411 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 2: the city just brings something out on me that I just, 412 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: you know, like really enjoy. But of course I would 413 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: like to go far. This is that you know, I 414 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 2: don't come and I never play a turn in it 415 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: to just show up. Whenever I come, I come to 416 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: do damage. So like that's my pop bustle. So it's like, 417 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not coming here just to participate and 418 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 2: have a good time, you know, like, no, we're going 419 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: to work here to wait. So I definitely have that, 420 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not putting expectations or anything. I'm 421 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: going and just staying locked in on my process and 422 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 2: what I have to do to play my best tennis 423 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: every single time that I on the court. 424 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: Okay, last question. We're watching you at the US Open 425 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: to help us watch what you're doing and have even 426 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: more insight into how you're playing. Is there anything you're 427 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: focusing on or thinking about? Are you thinking my forehand's 428 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: feeling really good right now, I'm really going to try 429 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: and kill them with my four end and put the 430 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: ball away. Is it my second serve needs to have 431 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: a little more oomph on it when I get to it. 432 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: Is it my volley game like, what is it that 433 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: right now you're heading and either feeling super confident about 434 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: or really focusing on. 435 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: I think that that changes depending on the day. Like 436 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: it's that's it's not that like straightforward, because you can 437 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: be having a great day, you have a great warm up, 438 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: and then shit goes left, like when you get on 439 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: the court. Yeah, So it's like you just have to 440 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: be able to flow and be able to go through 441 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 2: the ebbs and flows of like what's happening on the 442 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 2: court and to be able to know that, like I 443 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 2: could be hitting beforehand great in the first set and 444 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: then go off from the second. How do you adjust? 445 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 2: And so for me, it's like the power of being 446 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: able to adjust and the power of being able to 447 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: like stay fluid from start to finish in the match. 448 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: And I know that I'm doing yeah and being fully 449 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 2: locked in on like the now, and I know when 450 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 2: I'm doing that. So you know, I can't say like, yeah, 451 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: look at this or that, because it changes depending on 452 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: the day, the conditions, the person on the other side. Tactically, 453 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: what are you trying to do? So you know, that's 454 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 2: kind of a tough question to answer because I'm just like, 455 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: it's not that like straightforward, but you know, ultimately, if 456 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: you see me just locked in and I'm sure that 457 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: when I am it's a look in my eyes that 458 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: I know is there, then you'll know. 459 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: I love that. We'll be looking for it. Thanks so 460 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: much to Taylor for joining us. Continued good luck in 461 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: the US open. Also make sure you check out Taylor 462 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: on season two of the FUSE TV show Like a Girl. 463 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: She talks through some hard hitting subjects like body image 464 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: and pregnancy. Like a Girl is hosted by f S 465 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: one's Joy Taylor and mj Acosta Ruiz of the NFL Network. 466 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: In ESPN Deportes, Townsend's episode premierees Wednesday, September eighteenth at 467 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: nine pm Eastern. We'll link to the show in our 468 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: show notes. We got to take another break. When we 469 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: come back, a good game play of the day the 470 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: world needs you to internalize. Stay tuned, Welcome back, slices. 471 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: We love that you're listening, but we want you to 472 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: get in the game every day too, So here's our 473 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: good game play of the day. I know we've already 474 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: talked about Megan or Pino's jersey retirement a couple times 475 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: in the last two days, but I'm not quite done yet, 476 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: because Rapino is one of my favorite athletes and people 477 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: of all time. Not only has she given me so 478 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: much joy as a spectator watching her compete, She's a 479 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: woman who's teaching me how to live. She gives me 480 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: permission to think bigger, be bigger, ask for more, and 481 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: reject limitations. Because of Pino, I have, on many occasions 482 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: allowed myself to be bolder, braver, and less concerned with 483 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: being likable or palatable, and more concerned with being respected, 484 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: effective and inspiring for girls and women who need strong examples. Once, 485 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: a few years ago, on a podcast, she said she 486 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: chooses to live in the world she wants to see 487 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: and believes should already exist, and she just hopes people 488 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: catch up. I've been trying to live with that mentality 489 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: ever since. In honor of pino special night, the media 490 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: company Together put out a video. In the beginning, few 491 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: lines really stood out to me. Dear Meghan, Dear. 492 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: Meg, Dear Megan, Dear Megan, Dear Megan, Megan, Dear. 493 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: Meg, Megan. We just want to say thank you. 494 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: From dedicated fans and the communities you've impacted. 495 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 3: You've touched all of us with not only your plan 496 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 3: that failed. 497 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: But the story you have written off of it. 498 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 4: We have a unique opportunity in football to use this 499 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 4: beautiful game to actually change the world for better. 500 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: Thank you for never just kicking a soccer ball, but 501 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 2: also kicking down barriers and speaking out against prejudices that 502 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: have held us back. 503 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 4: I think if being a woman has taught me anything 504 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 4: in this world is to make it expansive. Don't ever 505 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 4: leave anybody behind. We never want to leave anyone behind. 506 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: So the play of the day is to consider if 507 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: you're leaving anyone behind when you're in a meeting, at 508 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: a political rally, in a classroom, on a board, or 509 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: even just at the family dinner table. Are you looking 510 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: around and speaking up for the people who aren't in 511 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: the room. Are you fighting for women's rights but not 512 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: including women of color, trans women, queer women, women with disabilities, 513 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: non binary folks, or anyone in any marginalized community. My 514 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: favorite part of being a woman is that at our best, 515 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: we fight for ourselves and for others. Raupino is a 516 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: shining example of that, so let's follow her lead. We 517 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: always love to hear from you. Hit us up on email. 518 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: Good game at wondermedianetwork dot com or leave us a 519 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: voicemail at eight seven two two four fifty seventy and 520 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: don't forget to subscribe, rate and review. 521 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 2: You know what was coming. 522 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: It's easy watch getting rid of the Chicago Sky mascot 523 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: sky Guy, rating a billion t out of five stars review. 524 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: My prayers have been answered, Sky Guys out man. I 525 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: would have liked to be in the room for whatever 526 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: hellish brainstorm came up with. Sky Guy. Just like what 527 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: it rhymes. And it's cool to have a guy be 528 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: the mascot for a women's pro team. But not like 529 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: a guy animal or a guy creature, or like a 530 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: meaningful important guy. Just a guy with a jay lenochin 531 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: a paratrooper suit and a big ass belt buckle. Cool. 532 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: Sky the Lioness seems promising. Sky the Lioness was built 533 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: by the costume designer who made Ellie the Elephant, who's 534 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: the mascot god, So we're cooking with gas here, she lashes, 535 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: she's got braids. Her name is spelled Sky with an E, 536 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: not to be confused with the team name Sky, which 537 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: definitely won't be confusing when you're just saying it out loud. 538 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: But we could deal with that later. Listen, all I 539 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: need to know is that this lion can pop in lock. 540 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: She better be able to drop it, shake it and 541 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: percolate it, or this whole rebrand was for nothing. The 542 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: very least though, we sent Skyguy packing and that's a win. 543 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: Now it's your turn, rate and review. Thanks for listening. 544 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: See you tomorrow. Good game tailor good game Pinok you 545 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: Sky Guy, not the guy in the suit. It's not 546 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: your fault, it's not your bad. You're doing your best. 547 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: Everybody else associated with Scotty Guy truly for you. Good 548 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: Game with Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's sports production 549 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can 550 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 551 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Production by Wonder Media Network, our 552 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: producers are Alex Azzi and Misha Jones. Our executive producers 553 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan, and Emily Rudder. 554 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: Our editors are Jenny Kaplan, Emily Rutter, Bretney Martinez, and 555 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: Grace Lynch. Production assistants from Lucy Jones and I'm Your 556 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: Host Sarah Spain