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Speaker 1: The one Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, it is a Tuesday as we plow into

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Speaker 2: week eight. Holy crow, it's week eight of the NFL season.

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Speaker 2: What is going on?

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Speaker 3: We are sliding downhill?

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Speaker 2: It is remarkable. That's goal.

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Speaker 3: Bill's sitting five and two. I'm I don't ever do this,

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Speaker 3: and I probably should when you go down and you

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Speaker 3: go win loss win loss, win loss. Before the season,

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Speaker 3: I can't remember if I was close to it or not. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I can't remember if I was closer.

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Speaker 2: To it or not. Yeah, I can't remember what I did.

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Speaker 2: We never really kind of where I thought they would be.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember what I picked either. I will say

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Speaker 2: I'm encouraged by what we've seen thus far. They are

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Speaker 2: their fourth in the conference right now, But and that's

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Speaker 2: only because of two head to head tie breaking losses

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Speaker 2: to Houston and Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Right that that's not really bothering me. I'm there, right,

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Speaker 3: they're winning games we don't and I don't think any

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Speaker 3: Bills fan was. It's been there's you know, the Jacksonville game,

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Speaker 3: aside in the Miami game maybe, but most of these

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Speaker 3: games have been you know, a little bit excruciating at

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Speaker 3: times like this one last week when you're down ten

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Speaker 3: nothing to the Titans and you just don't feel like

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Speaker 3: they've hit on all cylinders. But you do see like

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Speaker 3: they're getting a little better here, like Keon Coleman, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I see some flash. Can we do get more of that?

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Speaker 3: And Amari Cooper obviously, Lea's a big difference. You just

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Speaker 3: feel like the Bills are climbing it. You know, they're

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Speaker 3: getting more and more production, They're getting on more and

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Speaker 3: more of their cylinders, that kind of thing. You're getting healthier.

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Speaker 3: Vin will be back after this week. Rousseau's playing well,

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Speaker 3: Epinessa's playing well, Smoot's playing well, Dwayne Carter's playing well.

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Speaker 3: These you know, it's like, okay, so you feel like,

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Speaker 3: if you can keep this up by the end of

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Speaker 3: kind of thought we you know, you're getting better. The

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Speaker 3: doing it, and that when they're not playing their best,

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Speaker 3: and that's obviously that's why I'm encouraged. Yeah, I'm very encouraged.

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Speaker 4: We do.

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Speaker 2: With fingers cross a cross await the prognosis on injured

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Speaker 2: players like Dorian Williams and Terrell Bernard. Coach mczermoy yesterday

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Speaker 2: and addressing the media said there are still evaluations being

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Speaker 2: made for those two as well as Curtis Samuel, who

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Speaker 2: left the game very early last week with a shoulder ailment.

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Speaker 2: So we'll probably get information on those three tomorrow when

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Speaker 2: head coach Sean McDermot addresses the media again in his

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Speaker 2: weekly press conference he does every Monday, every Wednesday, and

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Speaker 2: then he does a Friday. So Wednesday, we'll get the

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Speaker 2: four to one one on those three and cross your

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Speaker 2: fingers because the defense was finally getting healthier, and then

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Speaker 2: Bernard gets his footstepped on and rolls his ankle and

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Speaker 2: hopefully that's all it is. I didn't see Dorian Williams

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Speaker 2: the end because the score was so lopsided. But he

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Speaker 3: That might be one of those things. He kept playing

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Speaker 2: Oof, yeah, what's you feel?

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Speaker 3: The next day maybe we'll find out out, but you know,

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Speaker 3: Right, So, uh, the game last night, Lamar Jackson five

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Speaker 2: Of the season, they've won five straight.

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Speaker 3: They won the five straight, so kudos to them. And

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the MVP talk for Lamar is back. Yeah, you

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Speaker 3: six to seven at halftime, nine to seven starting the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just gonna be honest. That was the ESPN

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Speaker 3: I watched the Manning cast, did you know I did?

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Speaker 2: How was Belichick on there?

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Speaker 3: He's really good? Yeah, you know, I mean he is

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Speaker 2: Was he's just an adjunct right now.

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Speaker 3: do some stuff. I mean, Peyton had Eli doing this

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Speaker 3: I mean, he looked awful. He's retired, but that kind

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Speaker 3: Baltimore does look really good. They're exactly who they've always been,

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Speaker 3: They are humming along on all cylinders. And to our

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Speaker 2: Well, your point is it's hard to sustain that level

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Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see if they can sustain that

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Speaker 2: kind of started on that front, we might as well

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Speaker 2: go around the NFL, which is presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 2: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. You already

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Speaker 2: mentioned Lamar's exploits, so we won't get into that. There

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Speaker 2: is a long injury list, however, in the league, and

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Speaker 2: we navigate our way through that. Now, Bucks wide receiver

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Speaker 2: Chris Godwin is going to undergo surgery to repair his

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Speaker 2: Happened late in the Bucks loss to Baltimore last night. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: severity of his hamstring injury suffered last night as well.

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about getting a kick to the

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Speaker 2: teeth and then a kick to the gut, Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: Bucks got it. They lose Evans early with a hamstring

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Speaker 2: And you could see Godwin right there, who just came

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Speaker 3: the Bucks are sitting at well, they were four and

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be hard now, and that goes from week

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Speaker 2: And leave their tops, their top two receivers. So it's

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Speaker 2: Chiefs cornerback Jalen Watson has a broken tibia and fibula

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs defense for sure. One of their starting outside corners,

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Speaker 3: These two teams have only played fifteen times in history.

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Speaker 2: Crazy thing is they've lost their last two home games

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Speaker 3: He's gone seven straight starts without an interception. It's the

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Speaker 2: Do you take any pleasure in knowing that Geno Smith

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Speaker 3: It does taste better, Yes, it does taste better.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know if that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: like an offensive lineman. You never hear about.

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Speaker 2: Him, no, because nobody's throwing. And when they did last week,

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Speaker 2: what happened? Interception? Yeah, it's tip the ball, Damar intercepts.

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Speaker 3: It, it's it's He's been fantastic.

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Speaker 2: So that would be my pick for a defensive player.

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Speaker 2: That surprised me. Again, not surprised he's playing well. I

438
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Speaker 2: just didn't think he was gonna be this good.

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Speaker 3: And he is. He has. He's just been that good

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Speaker 3: under the radar. You got this gift from tour in

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Speaker 3: week one, but you know, he just he's This is

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Speaker 3: an example of the Bills knowing exactly the type of

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Speaker 3: guy they wanted to get this. He's an absolute coaching

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Speaker 3: staff pick in this draft. They got him late in

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Speaker 3: the rounds they had already taken on the corner of

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Speaker 3: the sixth round, they had already taken Kyrie Elam and

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Speaker 3: the coaching staff was big on Christian Benford for whatever reason,

448
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Speaker 3: because he's you know, he's a big dude. For one thing.

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Speaker 3: The only thing keeping him from being elite is probably

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Speaker 3: his foot speed. But he's you know, he's just that guy, right,

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Speaker 3: He's if you talk to him, he's like a thousand

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Speaker 3: years old man. He knows that. He's just why he

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Speaker 3: doesn't talk. He's keeping he's just on the right spot

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Speaker 3: and he's so it's been really gratifying to see him

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Speaker 3: play as well as he has, particularly probably for this

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Speaker 3: coaching staff, and you know, it's.

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Speaker 2: Just so that's my guy. You have somebody you would.

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Speaker 3: Say, one guy, I think Dwayne Carter. He has played

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Speaker 3: really well. He started slow because he didn't you know,

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Speaker 3: because just like always they'd get these rookies a little bit,

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Speaker 3: a little bit, a little bit, a little bit, finally

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Speaker 3: gets in there and he starts making plays. The play

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Speaker 3: he made him fourth down last week. He is a

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Speaker 3: little bit of the flavor of the week for me.

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Speaker 3: I'll all admit I got recency biased, but he was.

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Speaker 2: He played well in the Houston game when he had

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Speaker 2: to fill in Forred Oliver who was out injured.

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Speaker 3: He has played well when he's gotten the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: So he made a play on a screen pass in

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Speaker 2: that Houston game where he hustled down the line because

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Speaker 2: he recognized screen halfway into the snap, ran down the

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Speaker 2: line and got the back from behind. If he didn't

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Speaker 2: tackle a Goombawalle on that play, he would have gone

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Speaker 2: for like fifty yards. There was nobody on that side

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Speaker 2: of the field.

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Speaker 3: And that continues to be too. One of the things

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Speaker 3: that you know, the Bills struggle to defend. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's one of the things they are vulnerable in is

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Speaker 3: the screen game. And the reason is the way they

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Speaker 3: play their defense. I mean they're pursuit defense. They're an

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Speaker 3: attacking play on their side of the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 3: defensive line, and so that gives them and particularly early

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Speaker 3: in that game against Tennessee, you can see the Titans

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Speaker 3: taking advantage of it by letting them come, letting them

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Speaker 3: get across the line of scrimmage and throwing it behind him,

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Speaker 3: or getting rid of the ball quick to the edges

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Speaker 3: and getting up the field, or letting guys stay in

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Speaker 3: to protect and then turning around and hitting them with

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Speaker 3: a pass when they're coverage guy and it's called like

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Speaker 3: they used to call it a green dog or whatever.

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Speaker 3: What happens is if if you're a defender and you're

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Speaker 3: you've got the tight end or a running back in coverage,

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Speaker 3: you you come at the running back or tight and

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Speaker 3: if they start to pass protect, you know they're not

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Speaker 3: going to an option. She rushed past him trying to

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Speaker 3: get to the quarterback and get a sack. Well, the

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Speaker 3: way to do that is set the guy there, have

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Speaker 3: him check and if and if he's there, hav him

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Speaker 3: pass protect for half a second or a quarter of

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Speaker 3: a second, gets the green dog to go buy him.

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Speaker 3: He turns around, he's and there's nobody guarding it.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The Bills were susceptible to that early in the Tennessee game,

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Speaker 3: and they have been other times during the Sean mcdermottiney

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Speaker 3: because of their defensive philosophy. So you get a guy

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Speaker 3: like Dwayne Carter who sees it as a big dude

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Speaker 3: gets down the line and stop stuff like that. It's huge.

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Speaker 3: It's really huge. That's surprising, and as a young player

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Speaker 3: usually You're adrenaline is so high, you're like lights out.

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Speaker 3: You're just like running all over the place. He was.

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Speaker 3: That's a it takes a discipline play to make a

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Speaker 3: play like Carter's been making in the in the run

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Speaker 3: game and the passing games. Really kudos to him.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones at eight h three oh

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Speaker 2: five fifty one eight eight eighty five fifty two five fifteen,

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Speaker 2: and we lead off today with Jim in Boston. What

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Speaker 2: do you got for us?

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Speaker 6: Jim, Hey, guys, Yeah, I just basically what's going to say?

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Speaker 6: Just what he said, Dwayne Carter is really coming on

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Speaker 6: and playing great. I mean, the last couple of games

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Speaker 6: I've noticed him, he's played good. And then that I

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Speaker 6: was at the game, Sony, that play he made on

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Speaker 6: fourth down just turn the whole thing around. So, I mean,

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Speaker 6: that's just the credit that Brandon Bean. You know, they're

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Speaker 6: they're picking good guys, they're coming in and they're developing them,

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Speaker 6: and there's a great example of it. So that's what

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Speaker 6: I wanted to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for the college, Jim. You're on the money

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Speaker 2: with that. I mean, I still remember Brandon being back

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Speaker 2: in January. He said, we've got to nail this draft class,

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Speaker 2: because you know, the season came to an end. In

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Speaker 2: the postseason, he's doing his season rap up press conference

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Speaker 2: and he basically said, we have to nail this draft class.

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Speaker 2: He knew the salary cap casualties that were going to

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Speaker 2: be on the roster, and so far, the early returns

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Speaker 2: on this rookie class, I mean, my goodness, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about Coleman, who Steve was just

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Speaker 2: referencing a little while ago on how he's coming on.

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Speaker 2: Bishop has seen some time on the field here and there,

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Speaker 2: Dwayne Carter, Ray Davis, and then even a guy who's

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Speaker 2: a rookie that they traded for, Brandon Codrington, I think

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Speaker 2: is an outstanding decision maker in the return game for them.

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Speaker 2: He's made some very heady decisions. In two of the

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Speaker 2: last three games. He took a ball off the bounce

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Speaker 2: and gave them ten extra yards because there was an

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Speaker 2: op opportunity to do so instead of running away from it,

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Speaker 2: sometimes you run away from it. That was an instance

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Speaker 2: where it behooved him to scoop it up and go

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Speaker 2: get ten yards, and he helps the offense with a

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Speaker 2: drive start that's ten yards better out at the forty

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Speaker 2: instead of the thirty. And he made a good decision

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Speaker 2: last week again too, getting away from the ball and

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Speaker 2: then when it hit the leg of JaMarcus Ingram, who

554
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Speaker 2: didn't see it, he alertly hopped on it. So I

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Speaker 2: mean he's made some good plays back there, and I

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Speaker 2: think for a rookie, he's doing a solid job. Not

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Speaker 2: that he knows it's not that he's a guy that's

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Speaker 2: playing on defense, but just the draft class in general

559
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Speaker 2: along with him have been very encouraging to see. We

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Speaker 2: are up against the clock here. Got to step aside

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Speaker 2: and take a break, But your phone calls when we

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Speaker 2: come back, and dan Orlowski in hour number two, All

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Speaker 2: on a Tuesday edition a One Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 2: Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back

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Speaker 2: to One Bills Live Tuesday edition. First Brown Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you, and to get right back to the phones

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Speaker 2: as we're asking which defensive player is surprised you the

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Speaker 2: most so far this season? And we go to Mark

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Speaker 2: in Jersey City. Next. What's up Mark?

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Speaker 7: Good afternoon, gentlemen, Thanks to take my call. I have

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Speaker 7: an offensive question three for you if I may. But

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Speaker 7: first aj f Panessa. I think they kind of demo

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Speaker 7: I'm not saying demoted him, but they let aj Duan

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Speaker 7: smooth play his role a little bit on the other side,

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Speaker 7: and he kind of responded to that last week, and he,

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Speaker 7: you know, should have had three sacks. He had a

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Speaker 7: force fumble and a sack and got he should have

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Speaker 7: had to pick six possibly, and that really would have

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Speaker 7: flipped the game on his head because he read that.

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Speaker 7: He knew it was coming, he wasn't surprised by it.

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Speaker 7: And the thing I like about him the most this

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Speaker 7: goes back to, like I think last year, he he

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Speaker 7: strip sacks guys like when he and not many guys

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Speaker 7: do that so frustrating because especially when the quarterback is

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Speaker 7: blind to it. I always, oh god, Tremaine Edmonds not

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Speaker 7: knocking the ball out of Baker mayfield hands in Cleveland.

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Speaker 7: He didn't see him. I'm just like, swap the ball,

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Speaker 7: don't go for this act. But aj just has such

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Speaker 7: a knack for it and the way he's using his hands,

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Speaker 7: all the stuff he went through coming in in COVID year,

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Speaker 7: changing his body and just finally he looks like a

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Speaker 7: different player after he signed a two year deal was

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Speaker 7: more team friendly to me. He's the guy, especially in

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Speaker 7: the last couple of weeks. But offensively, my question is

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Speaker 7: would it be advantageous for the Bills to kind of,

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Speaker 7: if they're having this rhythm problem early in games, to

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Speaker 7: kind of do what the Titans did. Put Josh under center,

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Speaker 7: get some traction in the run game, run downhill with Davis,

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Speaker 7: and do some of those like you know, they're junkie

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Speaker 7: early and they they're very ticky tacked, but they were

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Speaker 7: effective doing some of that stuff to Dawson Knox because

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Speaker 7: using him detached is not good. That's not what he is.

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Speaker 7: That's kincaid. He's an in line why tight end and

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Speaker 7: just kind of doing that with him just to kind

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Speaker 7: of get him going and maximize him. Thanks for taking

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Speaker 7: my call, guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, Aj is a good pick. He's been hot lately.

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Speaker 2: Should have had three sacks in the Jets game, three

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Speaker 2: sacks and a pick six. Yeah, and should have had

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Speaker 2: a pick last week.

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Speaker 3: Think about it, he'd have been defensive player of the

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Speaker 3: Week in the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially on a Monday night doing that. Yeah. Offensively,

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Speaker 2: Davis to start and run him.

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Speaker 3: Well, I get it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can set a tone like they did in

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Speaker 2: the Jets game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. Certainly you can do that, and

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. The way they used Knox and Kincaid.

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Speaker 3: You gotta be selective about where you line him up

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Speaker 3: and what they're gonna do, because teams you line up

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Speaker 3: Kincaid with his hand on the ground outside of tackle,

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Speaker 3: and nobody's worried about him drive blocking the guy. Maybe

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Speaker 3: a little more of Knox is there. You're right, they

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Speaker 3: have different skill sets and you need to maximize both

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Speaker 3: of them. The problem is when you use them only

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Speaker 3: in the spots where those skills sets shine, you get predictable.

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Speaker 3: That's problem because of whoever else is on the field too,

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Speaker 3: So you get you know, it is a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a mix of how you use these guys, where

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Speaker 3: you use them, when you use them, when you unfurl

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Speaker 3: new things in your offense. I get all of that,

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Speaker 3: and certainly I'm up for trying anything to get them

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Speaker 3: off too faster starts, offensively and defensively. So yeah, Mark,

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Speaker 3: I think all your stuff is valid. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 3: all the things you mentioned are probably in the playbook somewhere,

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Speaker 3: but you got to dust them off and use them.

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Speaker 3: And I hope they help you when the game kicks off.

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Speaker 3: I totally get it. I'm with you, and we have

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Speaker 3: gotten calls and you know we do every after every game,

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Speaker 3: particularly like the one we had last week, where you

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Speaker 3: get off to start the way the Bills did offensively

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Speaker 3: in defense. I mean, it's like everybody's jumping on board

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Speaker 3: in the coaches meetings trying to figure out how not

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Speaker 3: to go three and out three straight possessions in the

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Speaker 3: first half, your first three possession of the game. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm with you one hundred per.

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Speaker 2: We go to Judy in Buffalo next.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Judy?

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Speaker 8: I want to ask. I feel that to win this game,

651
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Speaker 8: the Bills have to really be control the game defensively.

652
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Speaker 8: I want to know are the Bills up to it?

653
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Speaker 8: Are they, like seventy seventy five percent ready to do this.

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Speaker 8: Previous caller mentioned a j Apanessa and I agree with him.

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Speaker 8: I think he is outperforming Russo and I don't understand

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Speaker 8: what it is with Russo. Does he not have the

657
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Speaker 8: innate ride to be effective and to be a power

658
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Speaker 8: part of the defense. Last, is the DK Metcalf available?

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Speaker 8: I thought he may have been injured than that last

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Speaker 8: game no, all right, we can.

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Speaker 2: Help you there, Judy, no problem. So dk Metcalf has

662
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: a Grade one MCL sprain. It's deemed to be a

663
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: minor injury, and he hasn't missed much. I think he's

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Speaker 2: missed two games in his career, and their head coach

665
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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald said yesterday that he is going to try

666
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: to do everything humanly possible to play this week. So

667
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Speaker 2: I think there's a good chance he plays, but he's

668
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 2: probably not going to be one hundred percent and we'll

669
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Speaker 2: have to make our assessments once the game starts. But

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Speaker 2: that's kind of where he is at. As for Rousseau

671
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 2: and Epanessa, I think Russeau's having a very good season.

672
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: You're not necessarily seeing it in the sack category, although

673
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: he had a half sacked last week. His pressure rate

674
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: in the game last week was twenty five percent. For

675
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: people that aren't familiar with pressure rate, that is an

676
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: astronomical figure. In any game he had. The league leader

677
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: in pressure rate is right around twenty one and a

678
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: half percent. The player who leads the league in pressure

679
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 2: right for the season. Rousseau had a twenty five percent

680
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Speaker 2: pressure rate in last week's game alone.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had and you see there, we're seeing the highlights.

682
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 3: There were a couple of times in that game where

683
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 3: Mason Rudolph had to get rid of the ball because

684
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 3: Greg Russeau was pulling him down. He had six quarterback

685
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 3: hits in the game last week. That's the most by

686
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Speaker 3: any player in the NFL this season, in any game.

687
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: So Rousseau's playing well, and both he and and of

688
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 3: course AJ didn't get the benefit of the stupid gruffing

689
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 3: the quarterback call would have given him a third sack

690
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Speaker 3: on the night, and then and then he missed, yes,

691
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 3: and then of course he missed the pick six and

692
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Speaker 3: the screen pass that.

693
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Speaker 2: I meant another sack last week.

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Speaker 3: So he's Yes, they're both playing really well, and it's

695
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 3: you know, he's got to keep on keeping on. Certainly,

696
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: there's guys making there's teams making plays in spite of

697
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Speaker 3: them being in the backfield. But I think you just

698
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Speaker 3: got to kind of keep after it. I'm yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: with you. Though. AJ has made some plays and almost

700
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 3: made another one that have been game changers, the sack,

701
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Speaker 3: strip fumbles, all of that stuff.

702
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Speaker 2: But make no mistake, Russeau's having a solid seas. Yes,

703
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: don't just look at the sacks. He's getting quarterback hits,

704
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: he's getting quarterback pressures. And as you hear coach McDermott

705
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: say all the time, we don't care about the sacks.

706
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Speaker 2: What we care about is are you affecting the opponent's

707
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: passing game? And he unquestionably is certainly.

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Speaker 3: We'll take the sacks, yeah, oh absolutely, but they still

709
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: gotta You.

710
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 2: Can still affect the passing game without getting a sack.

711
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: You can't expect to sack every play, and what happens

712
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 3: in between sacks is just as important as the plays

713
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: that you get a sack on. You've got to make

714
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: that quarterback uncomfortable and make make bad throws. Pressure means

715
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: more incompletions. That's all there is to it. And so

716
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Speaker 3: the more you can get of that picks, yeah, and

717
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 3: the more you can get to that without sending five

718
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Speaker 3: or six guys instead of just the four down lineman,

719
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Speaker 3: you're you're sitting pretty So that's what they're after.

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Speaker 2: What defensive player for the Bills has surprised you the

721
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Speaker 2: most so far this season? To Tom and East Rochester next,

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Speaker 2: what's up Tom?

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Speaker 9: How you doing guys?

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Speaker 2: Good?

725
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Speaker 9: I'm along with Steve Tasker there this Dwayne Carter, I

726
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 9: didn't know anything about him. I was kind of, you know,

727
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 9: undecided when they put him in, like what to expect

728
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Speaker 9: from him. But take nothing away from Kyle Williams. I

729
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 9: think Kyle Williams is one of the best Bills ever.

730
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Speaker 9: I'm not saying he's at his level, but the way

731
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Speaker 9: he plays a game and no nonsense and just knows

732
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Speaker 9: his job, I think it's reminds me of him. And

733
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Speaker 9: hopefully when everyone gets healthy, he can even contribute more

734
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Speaker 9: and make this defensive line a big reason they can

735
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Speaker 9: develop down the road and do better leading into the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks, Tom, appreciate the call.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's true. I mean, when you do get healthy,

738
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Speaker 3: when Vaughn comes back and all of that, you know

739
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 3: more about you trust more guys more because they've had

740
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 3: more reps to earn that trust. And certainly Dwayne Carter

741
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 3: has done nothing but earn more respect and trust from

742
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Speaker 3: the coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so I would agree with that. We have

744
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: a developing story in the league right now. Diana Rassini

745
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 2: from The Athletic is reporting that the Rams have called

746
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Speaker 2: multiple teams about trading former Super Bowl MVP Cooper Cup.

747
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: The Rams have indicated a willingness to take on some

748
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: of his twenty twenty four salary and are seeking a

749
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: second round pick in return. That is a wide out

750
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Speaker 2: who can make a difference, to say the least. Yeah,

751
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Speaker 2: provided he's healthy.

752
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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, it's very good.

753
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Speaker 2: He's been nicked up a lot the last couple of years.

754
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Speaker 3: Yes, And I think that's probably part of it. They

755
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: think he's damaged goods probably and he's probably reached his peak. Also,

756
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: it's just a little surprising because back in their in

757
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: their run to the Super Bowl a few years ago,

758
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 3: they were like, you know, we don't need those draft picks.

759
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 3: They traded away number one, number one, number one, number one.

760
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: So that's that's a different kind of attitude from the

761
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Speaker 3: LA Rams.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting that they're going to try to move this

763
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Speaker 2: guy before the deadline. I mean, guy came into the

764
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: league and lit it up, like right from the jump,

765
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: and yeah, everybody's replaceable in this league. Well they don't.

766
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, you know, they don't usually retire your jersey.

767
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: They wash it because somebody else is gonna wear it,

768
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: you know. So that's one way of putting it. Cooper

769
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: Cup somebody else canna be wearing number ten next year.

770
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Speaker 3: So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but more of your full

772
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Speaker 2: phone calls when we return. You let us know which

773
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: Bill's defensive player has surprised you the most so far

774
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,959
Speaker 2: this season. Eighth, threeh five to fifty your phone calls.

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00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: Next here on one Bill's Live, Stay with.

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00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: Bill's defensive player has surprised you the most? Us are

782
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Speaker 2: this season. Back to the phones we go, and we

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Speaker 2: lead off with Ryan in Toronto. What's up?

784
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Speaker 11: Ryan, Chris Steve love the show, Couples. I want to

785
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 11: touch back on the slow start with it, Bills. I

786
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 11: know you guys talked about it yesterday all day, That's

787
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 11: what I want to call it. But I've been doing

788
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 11: a lot of thinking. Seattle's nuber one passing off and

789
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 11: these guys come out strongly like half a sleep against

790
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Speaker 11: the Seahawks, especially on a road on a road game,

791
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 11: with that noise to twelve man, they are going to

792
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 11: be in big trouble. Secondly, I want to talk about

793
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 11: I don't want the Bills to be the Miami Dolphins

794
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 11: the last season. How they only have one win against

795
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 11: the winning team. So far, the Bills are five and

796
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 11: zero against team that are below five hundred. Seattle is

797
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 11: fallen three. So let's make a difference, and let's make

798
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 11: sure that we get this game and Bills have to

799
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Speaker 11: be ready and they cannot call behind period.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ryan, get what you're saying. Appreciate the call. And Ryan,

801
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 2: I wish you didn't worry as much as you did.

802
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: See every week he's worried about something and I understand it.

803
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: That's part of your fandom. But Ryan, breathe, Buddy, breathe.

804
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeahna be Okay the Seahawks, certainly, you're right. A slow

805
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 3: start is going to be exacerbated by the home crowd,

806
00:43:55,360 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 3: which is what happened in Baltimore. In Houston, Snowball, the

807
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: Jets home crowd was not was a different animal. So yeah, Snowbolt,

808
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 3: that is something to be concerned about, more so about

809
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: your own team starting slow rather than the other team

810
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: making it even harder for them to get get out

811
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 3: to a fast start. That's a legitimate concern. I think

812
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 3: Seattle is a difficult place to play. This Seattle was it,

813
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 3: I can't remember its city Link Field, luman Field. Now

814
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: it's tough to play in. It's not the old Seattle Kingdome,

815
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: but it's still very difficult to play. And they have

816
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: very passionate fan base. That's always difficult. And that's that's real.

817
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 3: And I see it. I mean, I'm not like Brownie.

818
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pooh pooh. You'r worries because the Bills

819
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: have started slow.

820
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 2: On the road.

821
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Speaker 3: In a loud stadium, it's hard to have success, especially offensively.

822
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Speaker 3: So it's a real concern, no question about it. I

823
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: don't think. Here's the thing too, I'm not as war

824
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: worried about falling behind the Seahawks as you are, because

825
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: the Bills have a big engine. When they turn it

826
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: on and they cut loose a little bit and they

827
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: and they they kind of throw caution to the wind man.

828
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 3: They're they're tough, and that kind of comes out at

829
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: different times. I think this is another game where the

830
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 3: Bills have to learn some lessons. They got some you

831
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: know Keon Coleman, Javon Solomon, you know Dwayne Carter, you know,

832
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: all these guys have got to learn how to get

833
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 3: it done.

834
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Speaker 2: On the road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm with you. The Seattle is the Seattle

836
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 3: football team is no pushover. And you're right, it is

837
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: a step up right now. It is a step up

838
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 3: in class, in weight class. And the Bill's got to

839
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 3: play better than they did to begin the game this

840
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: last Sunday in order to win it.

841
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. So well, let's move along. We go to another

842
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: Bills fan north of the border to Palm and Ford Erie.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for a spot? This is Tom comments, Okay.

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Speaker 6: Yep, all good. So my my player is is Smoot.

845
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Speaker 6: He's been very impressive.

846
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 7: You know he I didn't know much about him, but

847
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Speaker 7: if you isolate him and watch him, he's making some

848
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 7: big plays quietly. And not only that, Bills Mafia, I

849
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 7: think we're missing a huge opportunity.

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Speaker 8: We got Groot.

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Speaker 6: With the Groot, we got Cooper with Coop, Well, don't

852
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 6: we get the Smoot going.

853
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 7: With the Smoot, we could be the only team in

854
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Speaker 7: the league with all three you know, get that cheer going.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had It's funny because last week on the

856
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: half sack that Rousseau got with Dwayne, everybody was it

857
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: was Smoot and Groot just combining on the tackle. So, yeah,

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00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 3: we're kind of all over the the coop hype train,

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00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: hype train, I guess, yes, yes we are.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of double o names. Yeah, a lot

861
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Speaker 2: of dolls. Even though Russeau doesn't spell his with duo's,

862
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: his nickname is so there you go. Uh okay, yeah,

863
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: I'll listen to that. I think Smoot is an underrated

864
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: rotational player for this defense. As we know, he has

865
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 2: a role as the guy calling the pass rush games

866
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: when they go to their turbo package as well, So

867
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: he definitely has a role on this team and has

868
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: filled it. I think quite well. Let's go to Rob

869
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: in Connecticut. What's up Rob?

870
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 4: Hello, Chris, Hello, Steve, how you guys doing today. Yeah,

871
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 4: it's always a pleasure to reconnoy with you guys, and

872
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 4: always a pleasure listening to you, Chris play by play

873
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 4: doing a great job. Love the way you you know,

874
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 4: give the little nicknames, you know, Super Cooper and cooks

875
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 4: in the kitchen.

876
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 9: You know.

877
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 4: One of the things that I you know, Threl Bernard

878
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're aware of this, but in

879
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: my own way.

880
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 7: I always I call him T Bird. So whenever he's

881
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 7: in on the.

882
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: Play, I only like T Bird.

883
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 4: There he is, he's in the house.

884
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 7: I love that name for him.

885
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 4: So anyways, you know, I have to admit, just by

886
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 4: listening to the games, I mean, Dorian Williams seems to

887
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: have slowed down a little bit and let the game

888
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 4: come to him and just by spying and you know,

889
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 4: making that green green wave splashing there and being where

890
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: he's supposed to be at the right time. I'm very

891
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 4: impressed with how he has matured into his game with

892
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: the Bills. And I'm going to stick up for my

893
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 4: boy Damar Hamlin as well. You know, I know he

894
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: takes a lot of criticism, but you know, as far

895
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 4: as he's not the most athletic or the fastest, but

896
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 4: he always seems to be in the right place at

897
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 4: the right time. He's leading the team and interceptions. And

898
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 4: you know, yesterday when you know, when my wife, my

899
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 4: wife woke up and we were fighting over who was

900
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 4: going to wear Deamar Hamlin's jersey because we always wear

901
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 4: a jersey after the game, you know, so she goes

902
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 4: you you wear Cooks. I'm wearing Deamar Hamlin's. I was like,

903
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 4: all right, well guess what you wash it? I guess

904
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 4: you're gonna.

905
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 7: Have to wear it today. So but other than that,

906
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:57,479
Speaker 7: I'm very.

907
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 4: Impressed with Dorian Williams stanks guys. You guys are appreciate it.

908
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: I think Dorian Williams Steve is a great example of

909
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: what happens when a young player does get playing time

910
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 2: as a rookie. You think about all these players for

911
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: the Bills this year getting playing time Coleman, Carter Ray

912
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 2: Davis primarily, and you think about all the time that

913
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: Dorian Williams got on the field last year, particularly at

914
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: the very end of the season and in the playoffs.

915
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: Those are paying dividends now for this defense when he's

916
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: in the starting lineup.

917
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: It's also another element of the player development. We talked

918
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 3: so much about the players who come to Buffalo seem

919
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 3: to be their best and they get better during their

920
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 3: time here. We've seen players, remember Jordan Phillips came in

921
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 3: and he loved it here. Kind of get the idea

922
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 3: that Smooth is kind of like that he's thriving in

923
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: this environment. We'll see but it's it's a it's a

924
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: real thing. Dorian Williams is a perfect example of it.

925
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 3: He has played better and better and better and better,

926
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: and the more reps he's gotten, the more comfortable he's gotten,

927
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: and and more consistent he's gotten. So it's I think

928
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: it's you're right. I think he's a great pick for

929
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 3: this The defensive player who's supplied surprised us the most.

930
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here as we are at the

931
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: top of the hour, but our number two will begin

932
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: with NFL analysts from ESPN Dan Orlovsky, gonna chop up

933
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: the game against the Titans and get prepared for Bill's

934
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: Seahawks with Dan next here on One Bill's Live presented

935
00:50:38,160 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

936
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

937
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 2: All Right, our number two on a Tuesday can mean

938
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: only one thing. We're joined by ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky,

939
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: whose appearances on One Bills Live are presented by Caesar's Sportsbook,

940
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: an official mobile sports betting partner of the Buffalo Bills

941
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: and Dan. Another slow start for this team in the

942
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: early going against the Titans last week, but then they

943
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 2: shifted it into gear to the tune of thirty four

944
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: unanswered points. We even saw a little under center play action, Dan,

945
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: something we've been talking about for over a year, and

946
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 2: of my goodness, it worked. Unbelievable.

947
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 4: What is this?

948
00:51:59,239 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: That's right?

949
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I agree the slow started. It's funny, Chris,

950
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 5: that's that was one of the first notes was slow starting.

951
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 5: I think it was a little bit attributed to, again,

952
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 5: some of the tight coverage missus. I don't want to

953
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 5: call them misses because they weren't misthrows, but just lack

954
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 5: of connection and tight coverage. You know, a couple balls

955
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 5: that were essentially one on one that are just you know,

956
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 5: an inch or so out of the reach of the

957
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 5: receiver or tight end, and then you sit there and say, well,

958
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 5: can you create a little bit more separation so the

959
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 5: throat doesn't have to be as cautious. But yeah, then

960
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 5: they got into a little bit of a rhythm. I thought,

961
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 5: you know, the thing that you started to see that

962
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 5: was nice was, you know, Dalton started get going in

963
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 5: the second quarter with some of his different routes, and

964
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 5: I like, you know, I like when they give kincaid,

965
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 5: you know, the outside receiver space, and he can be

966
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 5: a little bit unique with his releases. We saw some

967
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 5: of the short ends on that I think they need

968
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 5: to do more of that. We saw him when he's

969
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 5: in the slot be it outbreaker, so that was really nice.

970
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 5: It was nice to see key On play with physical strength,

971
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 5: you know, and just a little bit of physical reaction,

972
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 5: you know. The big play down the field on Josh's

973
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 5: I guess kind of scramble, that was just Keon's physical

974
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 5: strength showing up and just instinct. So that was really good.

975
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 5: I think you saw, obviously the addition of Coop have

976
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 5: an impact down in the red zone. Even someone on

977
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 5: one throws that Josh trusted him backside on a fade

978
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 5: route that he just kind of threw it to a

979
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 5: spot and could use his body language to control it. So,

980
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 5: you know, they once that second quarter started to get

981
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 5: it going, they they did a really nice job. And

982
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 5: then the understanderd play action to Coop, I thought was good.

983
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 5: I've talked about this with you guys. Though I do.

984
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 6: I like it.

985
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 5: I like it. I do I want them to do

986
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 5: more out of it, though you know they again I

987
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 5: still believe they really only do one past concept out

988
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 5: of that where they'll take the slot, they kind of

989
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 5: sit them over the ball, he can break away versus

990
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 5: coverage and then the outside guys maybe got a deep

991
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 5: eighteen yard hook or whatnot. I want them to do

992
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 5: more past concepts out of it.

993
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 3: What is one of the reasons too, because this is

994
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: something that struggle the team has struggled with with josh

995
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 3: at quarterback for a long time. They're getting a ton

996
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: more yards after catch. I mean, Keon had a couple

997
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,839
Speaker 3: of plays like that. Shakir has been very good doing that,

998
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 3: Kin Kate as well. They seem to be catching the

999
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: ball and getting yards after the catch, where that used

1000
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 3: to be a real struggle for the squad. Are they

1001
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: doing something different that you can see or what do

1002
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: you attribute to that?

1003
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 12: Well?

1004
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 5: I think it's number one teams that again structurally play

1005
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 5: them a little bit differently than they did maybe you know,

1006
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 5: in the year's pass over the past couple of seasons,

1007
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 5: so there's a little bit more space underneath, there's more

1008
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 5: air underneath for them to get the ball and then

1009
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 5: get yards after the catch. I do think that it's

1010
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 5: some of the broken play stuff where Joshkin, you know,

1011
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 5: he kind of puts defenders in conflict when he gets

1012
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,800
Speaker 5: outside the pocket of do you go after Joshi to

1013
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 5: hang back and coverage Jakir. And that's one of the

1014
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 5: things see that I'd say, like right now, after the

1015
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 5: addition to with Coop you sit there and go the

1016
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 5: defense has got a kind of adhere to every part

1017
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 5: of the field. Now, you know, you there has to

1018
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 5: be a defensively you have to respect vertically now because

1019
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 5: Coop can still go deep, and then you have to

1020
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 5: now really respect horizontally at the same time because you know,

1021
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 5: there is so much space underneath for a Shakir, there

1022
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 5: is so much space underneath for a Kincaid. And so

1023
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 5: I think that you know, we've talked about all the

1024
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 5: different pieces, and again the sum is greater than the

1025
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 5: individual parts. But now that you've got vertical speed player,

1026
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 5: defenses have to respect all of that space at the

1027
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 5: same time now. And I do think that's going to

1028
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 5: like prove to be very valuable for this football team.

1029
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh with two hundred and fifty eight passing yards

1030
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: in the second half, that's the most he's ever put

1031
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: up in the second half, which was kind of surprising

1032
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: to see. You tweeted about an hour ago that you know,

1033
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: the three quarterbacks playing the best football in your mind, Lamar,

1034
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: Jared Goff and Josh. Is there anything that you deem

1035
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 2: to be a new element to Josh's game that has

1036
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 2: you putting him up that high?

1037
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 5: Not really, you know, I think it's pretty clear that

1038
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 5: I've always been a relatively massive fan of Josh's. You know,

1039
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 5: he's obviously valuing the ball at a really high level.

1040
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 5: I've always felt that he did. You know, I think

1041
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 5: he lived on the A line and kind of you know,

1042
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 5: made some decisions that were I guess interesting, but sometimes

1043
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 5: the situations that I felt okay about it. So I

1044
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 5: do think he's valuing the ball a little bit more.

1045
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 5: He's playing a little bit more controlled now. He did

1046
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 5: have that two week stretch this season where I thought

1047
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 5: he'd played frustrated and fed up, and you know, I

1048
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 5: guess Chris Stanti that would be you know, after the

1049
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 5: first quarter, he didn't which was nice. You know, first

1050
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 5: quarter was slow, and he didn't, he didn't get off track,

1051
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 5: and so you know, I think that's a good sign,

1052
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 5: you know, compared to what he did for that two

1053
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 5: week stretch. You know, a couple of weeks ago.

1054
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 2: All right, so let me follow that up really quick,

1055
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 2: because one issue that has been a persistent problem for

1056
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: the offense is third down conversion rate. This is a

1057
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: team that has led the league in that category each

1058
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: of the last two years. Right now they're twenty fifth.

1059
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 2: There's only two games where they converted better than thirty

1060
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 2: three percent of their third down opportunities. Last week, even

1061
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 2: with all that point production, they're three of ten. Josh

1062
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: after the game cited first and second down efficiency as

1063
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: a problem for third down, which I do believe is

1064
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: a contributing factor. He also is completing only forty nine

1065
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 2: percent of his passes on third down. That is tied

1066
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: for the lowest in the league with Trevor Lawrence. I

1067
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: realize that's not only a Josh number. I mean, we

1068
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 2: saw drops yet last week on third down. So what

1069
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 2: do you think the bugaboo is for the third down

1070
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: conversion rate of this team being such a persistent trouble

1071
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: spot people?

1072
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 5: Third down in the NFL is about people. You know,

1073
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 5: you have to have people that can go beat certain coverages.

1074
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 5: It's third down in the NFL is the main difference

1075
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 5: between the NFL and college football is the NFL is

1076
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 5: a very game plan specific leak and then within that,

1077
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 5: you don't spend a ton of time on first and

1078
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 5: second down offensively or defensively. You do a little bit wrink,

1079
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 5: but that's your base stuff. You get into third down

1080
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 5: in red zone situations, and that's when coaches really spend

1081
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 5: their time studying and trying to figure the opponent out

1082
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 5: where you can attack or how you can minimize. And

1083
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 5: you know, the third down situation is about do you

1084
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 5: have guys? Do you have guys that can beat high

1085
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 5: ended defenses or really elevate defenses or elevated defenses. And

1086
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 5: we'll see what it looks like over the next couple

1087
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 5: of weeks with the addition of Coop, because I do

1088
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 5: think that will help. He's going to be a person

1089
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 5: that you'll start a lot of your stuff with and

1090
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 5: then you'll build off of it to a Kincaid or

1091
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 5: you'll build off of it to a Shakir. And so

1092
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 5: I want to see how those numbers, you know, last

1093
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 5: week game one, he's been there for four or five days.

1094
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 5: I want to see how that third down success changes

1095
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,959
Speaker 5: now that they've got a you know, a true kind

1096
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 5: of number one ish. I still believe he's a number

1097
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 5: one receiver, and so I think third down has probably

1098
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 5: been a little bit lacking this year because you don't

1099
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 5: really have somebody that the defense believes we've got to

1100
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 5: stop that person.

1101
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 3: So you got a little taste of Coop Amari Cooper

1102
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: in the Bills offense. What what is your you know,

1103
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 3: what what do you think? I mean, all of a

1104
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 3: sudden you got a Keon Coleman getting one hundred and

1105
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 3: twenty five yards and all these you know, all this

1106
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,439
Speaker 3: stuff happened, and so what do you think? How much

1107
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 3: is his presence? How much has just happenstance because it

1108
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: was the Tennessee Titans. What kind of change can people

1109
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: expect to see in this Bill's offense that they have

1110
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 3: not seen through six games? Yeah?

1111
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 5: I think number one, you have a person you could

1112
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 5: put by himself, and you know you saw that. You

1113
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 5: guys just showed the clip of the fadeball equally as

1114
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 5: good as the slant he runs, you know where they

1115
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 5: put him by himself and he widens his release on

1116
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 5: the slant route and he's patient and Josh throws it

1117
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 5: to him and that's ten yards right there. So I

1118
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 5: think you can you know, this is an offense that

1119
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 5: loves to get in some of these outnumbered formations as well,

1120
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 5: where they get into like their four by one stuff.

1121
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 5: And I think they've been trying to figure out who

1122
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 5: could be that one, the one and the reason why

1123
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 5: that formation matters so much, and Steve, you know this

1124
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 5: is like when you put that person out there, number one,

1125
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 5: you gather information by who's defending that person. So you

1126
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 5: take Koop and you put him out there, and you've

1127
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 5: got the corner out there, then your eyes immediately as

1128
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 5: the quarterback go to the safety. Okay, is the safety

1129
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 5: gonna help? Because if the safety helps, then we have

1130
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 5: an advantage numbers away, whether we're running the football there,

1131
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 5: or we're we're gonna get a complete pass concept that way,

1132
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 5: or it's RPO that way. Okay, if the safety is

1133
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 5: not helping, do you have a person that can actually

1134
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,959
Speaker 5: take advantage of those one on ones? And I would

1135
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 5: say that right so far this year they haven't had

1136
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 5: that person. Well, I believe there's good players they haven't

1137
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 5: and so I think that's a formation that that Joe

1138
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 5: Brady will get really creative with, whether they line up

1139
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 5: in it or they'll motion to it. And having Coop there,

1140
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 5: I think is going to be really important. And then

1141
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 5: I think that the different ways you can you know,

1142
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 5: just just close your eyes and imagine situationally where it's

1143
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 5: Coop and Shakir on the same side, and then it's

1144
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 5: Coop and Kincaid on the same same side, or it's

1145
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 5: you know, a Coop and a key On on the

1146
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 5: same side and then a Shakira and Kincaid on opposite. Yeah,

1147
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 5: at some point in the defense, you know, you've you've

1148
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 5: got to figure out how you want to handle all that.

1149
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 5: So I do believe he's a chess piece that they

1150
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 5: can move around for information and the matchups.

1151
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,479
Speaker 2: All right, So let's let's apply that to the game

1152
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: coming up on Sunday out in Seattle. To really good

1153
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 2: outside corners is Witherspoon and wooln I don't know. I

1154
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 2: don't know what to make of Seattle's defense because they're

1155
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: last in the NFL and first down defense. I mean,

1156
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 2: they're given up almost seven yards on first down and

1157
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: yet yes, and they've given up the fifth most plays

1158
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 2: of twenty yards or more like, are these big play

1159
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: opportunities going to be legit against this defense?

1160
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1161
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I'd say this number one, the secondary has not

1162
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 5: played up to one the expectation or two what they

1163
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 5: had in the past. You know, all across the board,

1164
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 5: it hasn't. They've been susceptible to explosive plays. Now the

1165
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 5: reason why, mainly their defensive front has not impacted the

1166
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 5: quarterback at all. I would say the team that has

1167
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 5: done it the least on tape maybe is the Cardinals

1168
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 5: more than them. And the Cardinals are devastated with injury

1169
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 5: and the Seahawks have dealt with injury as well. So

1170
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 5: you know, this is a game, Chris where I would

1171
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 5: sit there and say, you got to be very aggressive

1172
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 5: on first down in a way of you know, there's

1173
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 5: I've talked about a little bit. When you play a

1174
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 5: team like the Minnesota Vikings defensively, you want to be

1175
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 5: aggressive on first downs because you don't want to get

1176
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 5: the third down against them. That's kind of what you

1177
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 5: saw with the Lions. Yeah, I don't want to experience

1178
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 5: they're down this game is I want to be aggressive

1179
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 5: on first down because I don't think you can stop us.

1180
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 5: I want to try and jump on first down. And

1181
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 5: you know, that would be the one complaint I have

1182
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 5: with the Falcons plan when they played Seatt last week.

1183
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 5: The Falcons played into their hands that I would be

1184
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 5: very aggressive throwing the ball downfield. I would live in

1185
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 5: a ton of play action. I don't think this front

1186
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,439
Speaker 5: can get after Josh on a consistent basis nearly enough

1187
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 5: on those downs where they can minimize the big plays downfield.

1188
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 5: So I think it's a very aggressive start for the Bills.

1189
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 3: If it was me, Yeah, well, it does lend itself

1190
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 3: to being a little bit faster if you can complete

1191
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 3: those passes and make the play action work it what

1192
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 3: the you know, the dowb The other side of the

1193
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 3: coin is always if if this front is not as

1194
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 3: good at getting after the passer of that, what about

1195
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 3: how good are they against the run game? Or can

1196
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: you can you just control the game more conservatively than that?

1197
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 12: Yeah?

1198
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 5: I don't. I think control the game in the past

1199
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 5: game though I do. I don't. With the way that

1200
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 5: Josh moves in the pocket, the way that the offensive

1201
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 5: line plays, I think you want to throw the football

1202
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 5: on this team defensively early on. You certainly are going

1203
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 5: to run the football at moments, and they want to

1204
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 5: stop the run with two high safeties. But you know,

1205
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 5: I think that's what the Falcons tried to do a

1206
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 5: little bit last week, Steve, and you know, they kind

1207
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 5: of played into the hands of the Seahawks. This has

1208
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 5: been a story for the season is they've just been

1209
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 5: giving up big plays for teams that have been aggressive

1210
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 5: pushing the ball. And I'm not saying sixty yard bombs.

1211
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 5: I'm saying fifteen twenty yard chunks. And so I think

1212
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 5: this is a This is a game where you put

1213
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 5: the ball in the quarterback's hands early and.

1214
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: Then just flipping it around. It looks like it's a

1215
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: strength on strength. You know, the Seahawks receiving corps against

1216
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: two pretty darn good corners outside and Taran obviously in

1217
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 2: the slot. I know Metcalf, if he plays, is probably

1218
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 2: not going to be one hundred percent coming off the

1219
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 2: MCL sprain last week. But Steve was talking about the

1220
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 2: Bills being good in yards after catch twelfth in the league.

1221
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: The Seahawks are number two in the league and yards

1222
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 2: after the catch, I mean they have almost a thousand

1223
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 2: already through seven games. So what is the concern there.

1224
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we see Metcalf as a deep threat,

1225
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: but is he with an MCL Sprain. I don't know, Yeah,

1226
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1227
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 5: The severity of the Sprain obviously is a tremendous player.

1228
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 5: I think the challenge for Buffalo this week defensively is

1229
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 5: they're going to see so many different formations. You know,

1230
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 5: Ryan grub who's come over as the play caller for

1231
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 5: the Seahawks was at the University of Washington if anybody

1232
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 5: paid attention to college football last year, and you know,

1233
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 5: they're gonna throw so many unorthodox formations at them. Meaning

1234
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 5: you know, they'll put formation in the boundary, they'll take

1235
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 5: three or four guys and stack them into the boundary,

1236
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 5: and they'll take DK and cut his split to the field,

1237
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 5: and so he's got all that room to go work.

1238
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 5: And you know, they're huge on shrinking their splits down

1239
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 5: to the football. So they're going to create leverage on

1240
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 5: those corners to try to create some free access and

1241
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 5: so it's going to be really important for them to communicate.

1242
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 5: They're going to have to play it in space a

1243
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 5: little bit differently defensively, and yeah, it's a really good

1244
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 5: passing Gino Smith is tremendous. You know, he's one of

1245
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 5: the best in the pocket maneuvering quarterbacks that we have

1246
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 5: in the NFL, very very aggressive with the ball, and

1247
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 5: you know, versus zone defenses, he tends to pick them apart.

1248
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 5: He does, so I think this is going to be

1249
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 5: a big time challenge for that second level of their defense,

1250
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 5: you know, Tarren Johnson and Bernard and then really the

1251
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 5: safeties to make sure that when those cut splits are happening,

1252
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 5: there's a high level of communication of kind of where

1253
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 5: your help is and where the vacancies are.

1254
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 3: One of the things we've been talking about on the

1255
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 3: show today is the success Greg Russo and aj I

1256
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 3: Panessa have had, and also Dwayne Smooth and also Dwayne Carter.

1257
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 3: The Bills have gotten a lot of production out of

1258
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 3: their upfront guys. I just saw a stat online where

1259
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 3: Greg Russou is in a tie with a bunch of

1260
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 3: guys at second in the league for quick pressures. He

1261
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 3: gets home, really has gotten home really quick. Now it

1262
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 3: hasn't translated into sacks, but how much of you know,

1263
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 3: how much success do the Bills really need to have

1264
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 3: up front? You said Gino's really good in the pocket.

1265
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 3: I don't think he's the kind of quarterback where you're

1266
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 3: worried about him snapping off a twenty five yard run

1267
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:39,959
Speaker 3: like some of the other guys with the Bills have seen.

1268
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 3: But you still gotta get to him and grab him

1269
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 3: before you're gonna get him on the ground.

1270
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 2: I mean, how much of a factor is this gonna be?

1271
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 5: You know?

1272
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 2: Can the Bills pass rush have a day against these guys.

1273
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 5: It'd be huge, you know. And you're right, he's not

1274
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 5: the guy that is, at least multiple times a game,

1275
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 5: gonna go break your back with the run. He's got

1276
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 5: it in his bag to be able to do it,

1277
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 5: but it's not necessarily what he kind of escapes too.

1278
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 5: He's just so good at maneuvering the pocket. And I

1279
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 5: think that's that'll be the big challenge for their rush unit,

1280
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 5: is you don't you know with guys sometimes you're like,

1281
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 5: you don't want to give a guy a scene that's

1282
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 5: a Josh type of player, right, you don't want to

1283
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 5: give him a scene. Almost with Gino, like you don't

1284
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 5: want to give him a spot to get to. You know,

1285
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 5: if there's this if you rush hard off his outside,

1286
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Speaker 5: yet you keep him in the pocket, well you've created

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01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 5: a spot where he can move up into. You don't

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01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 5: even because he's really good at it and he can

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Speaker 5: throw it. Man, you know Bill's fans, this is not

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01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 5: the Geno Smith and the Jets days, I promise you.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's really important that they just almost did.

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Speaker 5: Don't we call it, Steve, don't give him much operational space,

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01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,640
Speaker 5: you know in that pocket where you know, there's a

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01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 5: little bit of a that phone booth area where you

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01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 5: can move. So it's it's going to be almost like

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Speaker 5: the how you would rush a Lamar in a way

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Speaker 5: where like you want to restrict the pocket on him,

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Speaker 5: not because of the worry of getting outside, just because

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Speaker 5: you don't want him to have those places where he

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01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 5: can go operate in.

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Speaker 2: Dan, thanks as always for the time. We appreciate it.

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01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: We'll catch up with you next week. See man. Thanks

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01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 2: guys at that's stan Orlowski, ESPN NFL analyst breaking down

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01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: Bill Seahawks for us. There. You know you were telling

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01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 2: us before, you were telling me before we went on

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01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: the air, how you think it could be a high

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01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: scoring game. After talking to Dan, I kind of believe you.

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Speaker 3: The Seahawks have got I mean, Geno's got a live arm,

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01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 3: he's he can throw it and with the and you

1310
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 3: know DK Metcalf is a big wild card because it's like,

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01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 3: you know, it's taking your best weapon off the field.

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01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 3: That helps the Bills, no question about it, But their

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01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 3: defense has been vulnerable to big plays and teams are

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01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 3: attacking them in that regard. So certainly with the Bill's

1315
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 3: ability to score points like they have in this season,

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01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 3: Seahawks are gonna have to keep pace with that. I

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01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 3: you know, and I think they're gonna put a lot

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01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 3: of pressure on the Bills, particularly if the Bills like

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01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 3: to play that zone defense. Like you said, Gino's good,

1320
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 3: he's a veteran.

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01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not.

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01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna find the gap and and he's

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01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 3: got the arm to stick it in there. So yeah,

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01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 3: I think I think they're gonna be throwing points like

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01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 3: confetti this week.

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01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: One thing Seattle curiously can't do is run or stop

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01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 2: the run. They're like near the bottom of the league

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01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 2: and both. And now maybe it's because you're leaning on

1329
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 2: your passing game as much as you do, you don't

1330
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 2: really care about running it. But it's not like they

1331
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 2: don't have a capable guy and we and.

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01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 3: They score, So you know, team's got to score. You know,

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01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,679
Speaker 3: teams are putting the ball at risk, you know, trying

1334
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 3: to throw it to keep up. But you could see

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01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 3: if the Bills somehow, some way in the second half

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01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 3: of this game get up by you know, five or.

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01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: Six or something, you're gonna be able to run it

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01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 2: and close.

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01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 3: It out, close it out.

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01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's twenty eighth against the run.

1341
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there's when I the way I think

1342
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 3: about the stats and these I always look at the

1343
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 3: rankings a lot. If you're top five and something or

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01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 3: bottom five in something, it's a problem. It's not just

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01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 3: your schedule or injuries.

1346
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 2: Especially at this point in the season, there's enough of

1347
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: a sample size to get to read it's.

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01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:11,799
Speaker 3: A problem and it's vulnerability or it's a strength. So, yeah,

1349
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 3: they're struggling against the run. And and he said it too,

1350
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 3: they're not They're not a great pass rush team.

1351
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, given Josh time, oh boy, Uh, let's get back

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01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 2: to the phone. Tot EIGHTO three zero five fifty one

1353
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty asking you today

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01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 2: what Bills defensive player has surprised you the most so

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01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 2: far this season? To Jason and Florida, we go, what's up?

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Speaker 13: Jason, Hey, good afternoon, how y'all doing good good? Hey,

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01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 13: I would kind of reflect down that, and I've liked

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01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 13: Carter and I think the discussion came out last night

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Speaker 13: last week with Duke University and Stevie Bean's from Northwest

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01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 13: and there I thought there was a brilliant observation of

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01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 13: the hit cast statistics. But yeah, I'm going Carter, I

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01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 13: really like saying everybody, you know Bedford on the backside,

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01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 13: and just kind of wanted to put my input in there.

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Speaker 7: And thanks for your brilliant Steed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate it, Jason, thanks for the call. Hey likes Carter,

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01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: he likes Benford, and those are two names that have

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01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 2: come up already today. I'm not sure what the Northwestern

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01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 2: reference was. I didn't I didn't understand catch that.

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01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 3: I wish I would have. I think some yeah, he

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Speaker 3: might have.

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Speaker 2: Been pulling our leg maybe Okay, I don't know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of other guys on the defensive

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01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:40,719
Speaker 2: side of the ball that I would qualify for this

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01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 2: this discussion, because like guys that have really kind of

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01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 2: I would say Rap has played better this year. I

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01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 2: don't know that it's necessarily surprised me because I figured

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01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: after a year in the system, he would play better,

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I don't know if

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01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 2: I would call that a surprise, but he has definitely

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01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 2: upped his game in a Bill's uniform this year, in

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01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: year two with the club.

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Speaker 3: And you know, he took He gets criticized because he

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01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 3: he tends to fly in and he makes hard contact,

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01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 3: no question, but he also I mean he knocks around

1385
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 3: his own guys some friendly fire, friendly fire incidents, and

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01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 3: people don't like that, but he is he has played

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01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 3: really well. Uh don't forget that. He takes great angles.

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01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 3: He ran down Brese Hall and kept him out of

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Speaker 3: the end zone. It turned out to be a four

1390
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 3: point play that kept the Bills up on the scoreboard

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01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 3: because he they had to settle for a field goal

1392
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 3: when he tackled the guy came from way far away.

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Speaker 3: So that was nice to see, you know. I yeah,

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01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys, I think a lot of it

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01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 3: has to do with we kind of knew who everybody

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01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 3: else was coming into this season, right, I mean, you

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01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 3: kind of had an idea of who would be good.

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01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 3: Dwayne Carter, we didn't know about Benford. I think the

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Speaker 3: Benford stuff, he knew he was good I mean, the

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Speaker 3: guy earned us starting job in an NFL secondary as

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01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 3: an undrafted or a sixth round draft pick in his

1402
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 3: rookie season, beating out a first round draft pick. So

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01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 3: Benford as kind of was a known commodity to me,

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01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 3: Carter was not. Dorian Williams has exploded, and we didn't

1405
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 3: think we're gonna have to depend on him at all

1406
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 3: this year. We thought he was going to be a

1407
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 3: backup special teams guy Milano and Benford or Bernard We're

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01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 3: going to be out there doing their thing, and all

1409
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 3: of a sudden, Dorian Williams is leading the entire team

1410
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 3: in tackles and is everywhere. So yeah, there's a lot

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01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 3: of there's some guys out there that really deserve it.

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01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 3: And I'll say this too that their best players have

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01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 3: played very well. When Tarn and Rapp have been on

1414
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 3: the field, Bernard Rousseau, Benford, they have played very well.

1415
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 3: They I've gotten solid play out of all their guys.

1416
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 3: They missed ed Oliver when he was not in there.

1417
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 3: Certainly Deaikwon Jones has played well. So the guys that

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01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 3: we knew about, and let's you know, yeah they're five

1419
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 3: and two, so yeah, they're playing well. But the studs

1420
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 3: we were depending on when they've been available, they have

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01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 3: come through. So it's nice that these young guys are

1422
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,520
Speaker 3: obsolutely flashing. Obviously flashing as well.

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01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 2: And Steve referenced the next Gen Stats post on Greg Russou.

1424
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 2: Just for those of you who were wondering just how

1425
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 2: effective Greg Russou has been as a pass rusher. They

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01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: compile the list of the top pass rushers getting to

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01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 2: the quarterback and under two and a half seconds through

1428
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 2: the first seven weeks of the season. Number one in

1429
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 2: the league is Miles Garrett with nineteen such quick pressures.

1430
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 2: Then there are four players tied for second. Greg Russou

1431
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 2: is one of them with seventeen on the season. The

1432
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 2: other three names there Brian Burns, Danil Hunter, and Nick Bosa.

1433
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 2: Pretty good company for Greg Russo thus far this season.

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01:15:58,120 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, more of your phone

1435
01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: call when we return. Here on one Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 2: expert and official partner of the Buffalo Bills. Well Steve

1441
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 2: heating up at Bill's passing game. Two hundred and fifty

1442
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 2: eight passing yards is a record for Josh Allen the

1443
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,439
Speaker 2: second half, and he did it last week.

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01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and one half. I mean he ended up with

1445
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 3: over three hundred. I think it's a first.

1446
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 2: Twenty three yards, first three hundred yard passing game this season.

1447
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 3: Right, and then they look good doing it, And I

1448
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 3: thought it was a We talked to Dani Rofski about it.

1449
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 3: The Bill's got a ton of yards after the catch,

1450
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 3: Josh throwing away that the offensive line blocked. Well, I

1451
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 3: think that's gonna be really this week. With another week

1452
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,679
Speaker 3: of practice under his belt, Tomory Cooper will be more comfortable,

1453
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:10,719
Speaker 3: They'll be more used to using him. Yeah, I would

1454
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 3: say it's got to take a step forward this week.

1455
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 3: The Seattle Seahawks are a real football team. I mean,

1456
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 3: I'm not saying any of the other teams they played weren't.

1457
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 3: But they're an offensive team that's gonna score points. You're

1458
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 3: gonna have to do something to either keep them off

1459
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 3: the board or keep up with them on the scoreboard.

1460
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 3: Orlovsky said, really, the way to attack this team, and

1461
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 3: I kind of agree with him. You heard me say

1462
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 3: it early the set today. I think you can have

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01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 3: to score. I think this is gonna be one of

1464
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 3: those forty one to thirty eight games unless somebody starts

1465
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 3: turning it over. I know.

1466
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: And he thinks they can go after the guys on

1467
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 2: the outside. All I know is Tyrel Dotson and Jerome

1468
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: Baker are the inside linebackers in this three to four

1469
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: scheme for Seattle, and neither of them can cover in

1470
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: the passing game. Now, I'm assuming one of them will

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01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 2: come off the field, But whoever's left, I'm going after

1472
01:17:59,400 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 2: that guy.

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01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 3: If you if you, if you put them on, if

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01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 3: you put your people on the field, and you and

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01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 3: I would, i'd you know, you go four wide with Kincaid,

1476
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 3: You put Cooper, Coleman, Kincaid, Shakir and with maybe Cook

1477
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 3: or Ray Davis or or forget it, you put Curtis

1478
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 3: Samuel out there and spread them out and go five

1479
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 3: wide and go shotgun. They're gonna have They're gonna be

1480
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 3: spread extremely thin.

1481
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1482
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 3: Uh, They're probably not gonna be able to go man

1483
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 3: right out of that because the Bills are gonna go

1484
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,759
Speaker 3: deeper with skilled people than they go with skilled cover people.

1485
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 3: All that stuff is gonna be in the mix. I

1486
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 3: just think I'm with him. She got to get out

1487
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 3: to a faster start, and he says, just come out

1488
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 3: slinging it like, oh, that sounds good. Until you drop

1489
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 3: a couple or they go you know they're incomplete. Then

1490
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 3: you're stuck again. You know, you're on and off the

1491
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 3: field in thirty five seconds of game time with three incompletions,

1492
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 3: and you know now you're back to the Tennessee game,

1493
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 3: going three and out three times in a row.

1494
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 2: Cooling down the rest of the AFC East. Yeah, Jets

1495
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:18,639
Speaker 2: have now lost three straight, stretching back to their loss

1496
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Speaker 2: in London in week five. Then you can look at Miami.

1497
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 2: They lost to the Colts and Anthony richardson sixteen to ten,

1498
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 2: as they have been floundering without two in the lineup.

1499
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 2: He's supposed to come back this week, provided he clears

1500
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 2: concussion protocol. And then New England. Despite getting some plucky

1501
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: play from Drake May through for two hundred and seventy

1502
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 2: six yards and a pair of touchdowns no picks, they

1503
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,639
Speaker 2: are one and six. They lost last week in London

1504
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 2: to Jacksonville by a wide margin thirty two to sixteen.

1505
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 3: Bills are five and two. The rest of the AFC

1506
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 3: East has won a combined five games the three teams,

1507
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 3: so that is rough. Bill's got a full two and

1508
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:11,000
Speaker 3: a half game lead on the Jets and three game

1509
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 3: lead on the Well more than about two and a

1510
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 3: half because the Dolphins have played one fewer game because

1511
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 3: of the bye, so they've got some leeway here. But

1512
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 3: don't use it up because I think this is now,

1513
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 3: it's getting to the point now seven weeks in, going

1514
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 3: on week eight, you can start thinking about getting a

1515
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 3: couple of home playoff games. If you can keep winning.

1516
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 3: You're chasing the Chiefs, you're chasing Baltimore, and you're chasing Houston,

1517
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 3: so all three of those teams.

1518
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you have to have a superior record to

1519
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 2: Houston and Baltimore if you're going to be ahead of

1520
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 2: them in the final conference standings, because you lost the

1521
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 2: head to head matchup. So that's the one thing to

1522
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 2: keep in mind here, So keep on keeping on, I

1523
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 2: guess would be the mantra here. Let's get back to

1524
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 2: the phones at EITO three zero five fifty one eight

1525
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 2: eight eight five fifty two fifty. What defensive player on

1526
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 2: the Bills. It surprised you the most this season? To

1527
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 2: John and Buffalo, WeGo, what do you got for us?

1528
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 12: John, Well, I would have to give a shout out

1529
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 12: to Jamarrow Hamlin. He's had two interceptions, he's making a

1530
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 12: lot of tackles, and he's hitting people really hard. And

1531
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 12: after every Cinty he went through and we all know

1532
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 12: about that, it was a very good, pleasant surprise. And

1533
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 12: I can sort of relate to what happened to him

1534
01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 12: because back in March, I'm a survivor of cardiac arrest.

1535
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 12: So I think he's doing really good. All right, get

1536
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,560
Speaker 12: the hang up and listen se on phone.

1537
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 3: I'm glad you Well, you probably didn't feel like starting

1538
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 3: at free safety for the Buffalo Bills.

1539
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: I guess after they got glad.

1540
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're around to call us John, no question,

1541
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 3: and you're right. Damar is a little bit surprising in

1542
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 3: the fact that none of us thought he would be there,

1543
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 3: not because of his injuryything happened. They drafted and signed

1544
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 3: safeties this offseason. Certainly the deck was clear, but they

1545
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 3: drafted a guy number two overall, number two draft pick

1546
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,680
Speaker 3: and then they signed a free agent right out of

1547
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 3: the gate from the World Champions So you thought tomorrow

1548
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 3: is gonna be the odd man out. Anyway, he was.

1549
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 3: You know, he started his career as a backup. They

1550
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 3: can't get him off the field, and that's just it.

1551
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 2: He's a little bit.

1552
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 3: He's like one of those players we see in the

1553
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 3: secondary for the Bills over the years. They're never the biggest, fastest, strongest,

1554
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 3: most highly tauted, but you can't get him off the field.

1555
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: Remember Wallace Levi Wallace was that way. You had guys

1556
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 3: who just they just play, they just make plays. And

1557
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 3: I think there's something in McDermott that he loves guys

1558
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 3: like that and maybe they get maybe he gives him

1559
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 3: a little extra slack. I don't know, but man and man,

1560
01:22:56,760 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 3: when push comes to shove, he's their best option. And

1561
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 3: they've got some pretty good options sitting there, so I'm yeah,

1562
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 3: Damar is always I think for most Bills fans and

1563
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 3: Damar is always going to have a special place in

1564
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 3: their heart and he should. But the interceptions, he's around it.

1565
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 3: He's always around it, and he has gotten himself to

1566
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 3: a place where he is he's an NFL safety starting

1567
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 3: in the in the league. So uh yeah, that's a

1568
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 3: little bit surprising at this point of the season because

1569
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 3: you figure even Cole Bishop or Mike Edwards, even with

1570
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 3: injuries and the stuff that struck them early in the preseason,

1571
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 3: you figure they'd kind of ease their way in.

1572
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1573
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:38,919
Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing doing.

1574
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: To Dave in Virginia. Next. What's up, Dave?

1575
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 14: Hey, I just wanted to say, I'm gonna second what

1576
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 14: that gentleman said when they named mar Hamlin as a starter.

1577
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 14: I was like, oh, not good. But he's gotten consistently

1578
01:23:55,120 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 14: better every game. I'm I'm now with him and I'm

1579
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 14: totally comfortable with him being out there, So I think

1580
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 14: there's an upside to him yet to come.

1581
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 3: All right, there you go.

1582
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,559
Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Dave. Appreciate it. As Dave's getting

1583
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 2: out of his car and getting to wherever he needs.

1584
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 3: To sound like multitasking like he was at a road

1585
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,839
Speaker 3: crossing there, right, be careful.

1586
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Amlin's been a nice surprise. He's been

1587
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 2: steady back there for sure, and I think he's played

1588
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 2: enough now where his football IQ can probably make up

1589
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 2: for maybe some of the physical limitations that he has

1590
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 2: because This is not a guy that's going to run

1591
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 2: a four three forty. I think we all know that,

1592
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 2: and he knows that. But if you can be a

1593
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 2: student of the game and anticipate and get to places sooner,

1594
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if you can run a four to

1595
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 2: three on a stopwatch. You can still make plays in

1596
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 2: this league. And I remember, you know a guy that

1597
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 2: plays with you, Mark Kelso he wasn't burning up a stopwatch.

1598
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,719
Speaker 2: Guy had like thirty eight interceptions in his career.

1599
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he yeah tomorrow, certainly, And he's not for nothing.

1600
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 3: I say little. He's little, he's light, he's tall, but

1601
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 3: he's narrow framed. Yeah, and he still brings it. He's Yeah,

1602
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 3: he has made himself invaluable to this night. He's become

1603
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 3: a little bit of a fixture. Now that doesn't mean

1604
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 3: he's going to be there forever, but certainly you got

1605
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 3: to tip your hat to what he has accomplished in

1606
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,520
Speaker 3: the last two or three years.

1607
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 2: We are up against the clock here, so we're going

1608
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 2: to take a break, but when we come back, we'll

1609
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 2: get some thoughts on the tweet sheet before we close

1610
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 2: it up for a Tuesday edition to One Bill's Live,

1611
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 2: presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

1612
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 2: one segment to go here on One Bill's Live Tuesday edition,

1613
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 2: Chris Brown's Steve Tasker with you defensive player that has

1614
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: surprised you the most. Let's crack open the tweets sheet here,

1615
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 2: presented by Corrigan Moving Systems, official equipment moving company of

1616
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. Says Christian Benford. I knew he could

1617
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 2: be good, but didn't expect all pro greatness. Yeah, he's

1618
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 2: in the ch is in the same boat, ay am,

1619
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: Nick says Dwayne Carter has been a steal, you know,

1620
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 2: for all of those fans out there that poop pooed

1621
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:32,799
Speaker 2: the decision to swap picks with the Kansas City Chiefs

1622
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 2: and let them get Xavier Worthy. The Bill's got Keon

1623
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 2: Coleman and Dwayne Carter in exchange. Just want to put

1624
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 2: that out there.

1625
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks good this week, that's for sure.

1626
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 2: Gary on the tweets sheet, says Taylor Rap. He's showing

1627
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,439
Speaker 2: great discipline and awareness of the scheme. He's always been

1628
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,640
Speaker 2: a great hitter, now he's showing he can use that

1629
01:26:55,680 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 2: strength to make plays instead of just being an indiscriminate hammer. Him,

1630
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 2: says Duwayne Carter. Can't teach his motor and gives you

1631
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 2: penetration ability like Oliver, but seems stouter in the run game.

1632
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 2: What a great hit for being to this point. And

1633
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 2: it should be sweeter for Bill's mafia that he was

1634
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 2: acquired with the pick Casey send us in the cole

1635
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 2: maent trate. It's like an echo in here. There you go, Jack,

1636
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 2: says Dorian Williams. Leading the team in tackles and being

1637
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 2: top five in the NFL in total tackles was not

1638
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 2: on my twenty twenty four Bill's Bengo cart. He is productive. Yeah,

1639
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 2: I mean he is around the ball all the time,

1640
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 2: all the time because you want to know what he's doing.

1641
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing he's doing better this year

1642
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,679
Speaker 2: than he was last year. He doesn't over pursue now

1643
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 2: like he used to. Last year, he'd get caught over

1644
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 2: pursuing the play and then he's out of position. You

1645
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 2: don't see that with Dorian anymore this year.

1646
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is. He's still that athlete that makes him special.

1647
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 3: He just seems more disciplined and you know what, he

1648
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 3: just looks smarter on the field. He just looks like

1649
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 3: it's all slowing down for him, and he's ahead of

1650
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 3: the game rather than chasing it even though still fast.

1651
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 2: That's right, Brian says balon Spector. He's earned first linebacker

1652
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: off the bench and held up his end when called upon. Yeah,

1653
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,439
Speaker 2: I got some run, yes, last Sunday, because you know,

1654
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 2: they jumped into base a few times because Titans were

1655
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 2: running thirteen personnel and like six offensive linemen like the

1656
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: Bills do. So the Spector got some run on defense.

1657
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean he was steady when he was

1658
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 2: in there and plays a Bernard. I think you know

1659
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 2: he knows his limitations, as does the opponents, because they

1660
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 2: got him on one pass play when he had to

1661
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 2: cover the tight end on a downfield pass. But you know, steady,

1662
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 2: you know, backup player. I think Max says a j

1663
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 2: EPINESSA leading the team in sacks was not on my

1664
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 2: Bingo board. Bingo's apparently a pretty big ardoard. I think

1665
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 2: it's a card, right, it's definitely a car. The guy

1666
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 2: actually pulling the numbers puts it on a board that

1667
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 2: is correct. Yes, maybe that guy is a Bingo leader.

1668
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 2: Maybe he's the one up in the front of the

1669
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 2: room all the time. Pulling the I'm not a little

1670
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 2: balls out of the basket.

1671
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 3: It's right. I'm not a bingo savant, but I do know.

1672
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 2: We know a thing or I don't have much luck

1673
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 2: at bingos. Have you ever wonted bingo?

1674
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 3: I don't either. Yeah, we're going to turn the page

1675
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,599
Speaker 3: to start talking about Seattle exclusively tomorrow.

1676
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 2: Yes we do, and we'll have our good friend field

1677
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 2: Yates giving you your ultimate fantasy lineup for week eight

1678
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 2: tomorrow as well. But that is Oh, that's Thursday, Thursday. Sorry,

1679
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:27,800
Speaker 2: I got my days mixed up because we had him

1680
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 2: early last week after the Monday night came. We're finally

1681
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 2: on a regular schedule now I got to put myself

1682
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 2: on it. We'll see you tomorrow at one