1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 6 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: my name is Noah. 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: super producer Alexis codenamed Doc Holliday Jackson. Most importantly, you 9 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: are here. That makes this the stuff they don't want 10 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: you to know. Human calendars are largely made up technology. 11 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 1: But happy New Year. Congratulations to everyone. We can't wait 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: to hear from you and your fellow conspiracy realists. We've 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: got a grand and strange question ahead. We have a 14 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: first hand account following up on our earlier conversation just 15 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: last year about the Red Sea. That's some deep water 16 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: surprisingly on many levels, and before we get to any 17 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: of that, we're going to hear from our palaws. 18 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll just dive right into. I think this is 19 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 3: one that's certainly was news to me and potentially mega helpful, 20 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: and I think we'll be for some of you conspiracy 21 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: realists out there in podcast land. Greetings, guys, I want 22 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: to comment on your most recent Strange News episodes, specifically 23 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: on the hacking where customers account information was stolen. I 24 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: am an active duty Air Force member, and when I 25 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: was stationed in Europe, I was sent to Germany to 26 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: attend a work related event for a few days. At 27 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: the end of the event, I checked out of my hotel, 28 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: starting the hours long drive to where I was living 29 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: at the time. Then, as Ben would say, you get 30 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 3: into situations, about halfway into the drive, I realized I 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: had left my passport in the hotel room safe. I immediately, 32 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: first of all, good on you for putting it in 33 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: the safe. I've never once actually used those safes, and 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: when you travel with your passport, that's the most important 35 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: document you could probably possess that you've got out there 36 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: in the world. So sorry you left it, but I 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: think it was a smart move. About halfway into the drive, 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: I realized I'd left my passport in the hotel room safe. 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: I immediately pulled over and called the hotel. They said 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 3: they'd be able to retrieve it and mail it to me, 41 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 3: but I had to give a credit card number to 42 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: the clerk over the phone. I'm presuming this is for postage. 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: I didn't know what to do, as it looked like 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: there was a potential for that person to use my 45 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: card information for other reasons since there was no paper 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 3: trail leading to the person receiving my information. I went 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: to Google and struck gold. I found an app slash 48 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: service that I can't stop recommending called Privacy privacy dot Com. 49 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: First of all, good on them for locking that you 50 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 3: arel down. To be clear, I'm not employed by the company, 51 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 3: nor do I have financial interests in it. It lets 52 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: you create burner cards tied to your bank account, which 53 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: can be single use, one and done, or tied to 54 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: a single vendor. If tied to Amazon only Amazon charges 55 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 3: can go through. You can set charge limits per month 56 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: or per transaction. If you pay for the service, you 57 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 3: can have unlimited open cards, but the free version lets 58 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: you have something like four or five. What the single 59 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: use is done, it doesn't count towards your limit. I 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: know this doesn't help in cases where you have to 61 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: provide an actual bank account, but can greatly reduce the 62 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 3: places online with your credit card or debit card information 63 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 3: that could be hacked anyway. Long story short, I got 64 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: my passport back with no issues and found a great service. 65 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: Feel free to read this on the air if you wish, 66 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: and you can call me oz os oh Man. First 67 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: of all, I think y'all might remember I recently discussed 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 3: I think it was maybe even in the episode that 69 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: oz is referencing, that I had some weird fraudulent activity 70 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: on my account and I had to cancel my debit card. 71 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: And it turns out that it was because of the 72 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: linkage that I had of my debit card to my 73 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: Apple wallet, and that some service that I had tied 74 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: had my Apple wallet too in the past, I guess 75 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 3: had exploited that linkage and charged me some weird feef 76 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: that I had no idea you know what it was for. 77 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: And thankfully my bank did you know, return it once 78 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: I reported it. But it really got me thinking about 79 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: how fast and loose I was playing, and a lot 80 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 3: of people I'm sure, play with having that information out there, 81 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: and when that linkage is just you know, out, you know, 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: being used in multiple different services, that can be really 83 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 3: sketchy and dangerous, you know, for your identity and the 84 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: potential theft thereof. So this is a super super useful 85 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: service and I looked it up on trust Pilot. It's 86 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: got nothing but positive reviews. You know, I think it's 87 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: got or out of three thousand reviews, ninety percent five star. 88 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: Went to some threads about it on Reddit nothing but 89 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: positive things to say about it. So I'm gonna check 90 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: it out myself as well. But it just got me 91 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 3: kind of thinking, too, guys, just about how I think, 92 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: in some ways naive people can be about their information 93 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: being out there. Matt, you'd mentioned another big hack recently. 94 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: I believe it was a telecom company where you realize 95 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: that you maybe were caught up in one of those leaks. 96 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 3: You know, of data, and how that data can be 97 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: stored for a lot longer than you realize, even if 98 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 3: you're no longer a customer. This is a great way 99 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: to kind of mitigate that. 100 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: Ben, I think it was you who mentioned the Exfinity 101 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: hack that was really big that occurred, and then I 102 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: was talking about the Nation Star slash mister Mister Cooper 103 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 2: hack that was actually tied to people's bank accounts, so 104 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: it had to be like a direct bank account. It 105 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: couldn't be a credit card in this instance. But I 106 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: would just like to add this is something I've been 107 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: very interested interested in for a while and a lot 108 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: of larger credit card companies in American Express or a 109 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: Capital one will allow this type of thing, but it's 110 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: often like a single virtual card or something that you 111 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: can then use for online purchases. And if it gets 112 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: you know, exposed for one reason or another, it doesn't 113 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: directly affect your physical credit card. 114 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 3: That you have. 115 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: But they don't offer this thing that OZ is talking 116 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: about where you could like, you know, split them all 117 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: up to where you only pay for Apple stuff with 118 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: this one card that's not real, but it is attached 119 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: to your account. That's this is very cool to me. 120 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: It's also it's a pretty successful company OZ. So they 121 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: started in twenty fourteen and twenty twenty one they rebranded 122 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: to a thing called Lithic Liitchic. They're making money because 123 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: this is a good idea. The primary question, the primary 124 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: issue is the security of that information hub right in general, 125 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: So as long as they don't run into any shenanigans, 126 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: you're going to be fine. And as we said previously 127 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: when we brought up the idea of hacks and debit 128 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: versus credit card in general, your credit card is going 129 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: to have a little bit more of a firewall and 130 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: do your odds of escaping a hack or getting your 131 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: money back at least are a little bit better with 132 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: a credit card. I think it's cool. I am still 133 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: like you, Noel, and probably like you Oz, I am 134 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: still astounded that they got privacy dot com. 135 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty impressive. It reminds me of things, you know, 136 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: if we're talking about other ways that you can prevent 137 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: yourself and information that maybe we're a little too fast 138 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: and loose with on the Internet. It's passwords and there 139 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: are these password wallet things where you can store all 140 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: your passwords and have a master password that could be 141 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: really complex, you know, and generated, and then it's tied 142 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 3: to all of your passwords that you actually remember to 143 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 3: unlock it. And at first was made aware of these 144 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: quite a few years ago, and I can't remember the 145 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: name of the one that I was turned on too, 146 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: But I'm sure the technology has gotten better. But as 147 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: we talk about these kinds of stories, we know you 148 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: got to protect yourself against this kind of stuff because 149 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: it's just getting easier and easier for your information to 150 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: be compromised if you're not careful, and if you're just 151 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: using the same one or two passwords for every service, 152 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: then I know We've all probably been guilty of that 153 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: from time to time. And it's easy to get overwhelmed 154 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: because so many things want you to make a new account, 155 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. But I love the feeling of 156 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: financial security that goes along with this particular service. And 157 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 3: you know, even most things, there's only a very select 158 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 3: few things that really require you to use a bank account. 159 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: Some will offer you the option to use a bank 160 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: account to link it to a bank account, but often 161 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: you can use a credit card or a debit card 162 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: or even Venmo or PayPal or something like that, and 163 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: then you can pay those services with your actual debit 164 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: card that could be ghosted by one of these. So 165 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: it's a smart way to kind of protect yourself and 166 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: protect your information. I was not aware of this service 167 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: at all. 168 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: You can use a gift card too, you know, like 169 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: amex or Visa gift card. 170 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: It's a similar same thing. What is that if not 171 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: just like a store for well, it's a little different. 172 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: I guess you put stuff on those. But this is 173 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 3: like a what do you call it? An alias? Almost 174 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 3: is what this is. 175 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's similar to the services that allow you 176 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: to use a throwaway account. Email account when you have 177 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: to sign up for something, right, Yes, there is always 178 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: an opportunity for grift and graft. But this does seem 179 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: to be to your point about true Pilot Better Business 180 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: Bureau as well. It does seem to be a pretty 181 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: popular thing. And I don't know, you know, you hear 182 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: about all these hacks. You hear about the woeful op 183 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: SEC problems of so many large companies, And I get 184 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: it when I hear people say, I just want to 185 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: use cash. But as we as we talked about years ago, 186 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: physical currency is becoming less and less viable in many ways, right, Like. 187 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 3: Some places won't even take it physical, you know, brick 188 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: and mortar places that will not take cash anymore. So 189 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: there's really no way to pay online using cash. He 190 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: can't send it in the mail, you know, for your 191 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: Amazon order. 192 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: You can mail a check still, I'm sure it's somewhere 193 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: buried in the options to Amazon. You really think so? 194 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: They'll take your money? 195 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: They like money, That's true anyway, As thank you. We 196 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: keep this one a little quick, but I just thought 197 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: it was a good pro tip for starting off the 198 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: new year on a sound financial foot when it comes 199 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: to online stuff. Was a quick break here a word 200 00:10:53,120 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: ore sponsor, and come back with another message from you. 201 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: We've returned to guys. I was attempting to cancel my 202 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: Max subscription while we were having that conversation. I was 203 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: challenging myself to see if I could cancel it before 204 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: this next segment started, and I failed. That's okay, I'll 205 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: do it right after. Here we go that whole conversation 206 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: about the privacy dot com and that thing just made 207 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,839 Speaker 2: me take a quick glance at my credit card app 208 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: with all my like recurring subscriptions again, and I just 209 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: was like, oh God, new year, let's let's start fresh. 210 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: Okay, you should watch Scavenger's Reign though, before you cancel it. 211 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: Have you heard of this? 212 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: Brought to you by Hello Fresh. 213 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: It's so good. It's like an animated sci fi thing 214 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 3: that I think both of you guys would love you. 215 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Joe Darski ask you know. 216 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be canceling it if it was still HBO Forward, 217 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: and it is not, and I do not like what 218 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: it has become. So I canceled the All right, So 219 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: let us let's listen to the to this message from 220 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: someone who called in with just a very cool question 221 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: and maybe just a thought experiment for us to mull 222 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: over for a little bit, because it is It's not 223 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: something I've considered before. This person called in one time, 224 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 2: called themselves pickles just in spur the moment, you know what, 225 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: call me pickles now, and then called back with the 226 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: moniker fickle pickle, which I do enjoy very much. It 227 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: goes into our previous discussions about artificial intelligence, artificial general intelligence, 228 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: which is a whole other thing, and time travel. So 229 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: let's get into it. 230 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 4: Hey, guys, call me the fickle pickle. If artificial intelligence 231 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: invents time travel, what would it do? I had a 232 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: sudden thought that only one of two things can exist, 233 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 4: AGI or time travel. Think about it. If AGI will 234 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 4: exist and time travel is possible, and AGI will inevitably 235 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 4: invent time travel. If this happens, I would imagine we 236 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 4: would see evidence of its use. Perhaps this proves only 237 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: one can exist. But perhaps I'm wrong about this and 238 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 4: it demonstrates that the oncoming AGI is either benevolent or 239 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: does that see a practical use for time travel or 240 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: even time itself? 241 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: All right, bye the fickle pickle. Uh, just with a 242 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 2: quick question in there, guys, This one has got me thinking. Okay, 243 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: don Ton to artist. First of all, artificial general intelligence, 244 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: this appears to be something that will exist in my mind. 245 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: To me, that's an inevitability. What do you guys think? 246 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: Yes? 247 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: Also, uh, I would pause. I've thought about this too. 248 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: Oh geez, yeah, fickle Pickle man Noel code named duc 249 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: AGI existing. Uh. There's there's a lot of great science 250 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: fiction about the idea of something like this existing in 251 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: the future, inventing time travel in linear time travel theory, 252 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: and then ensuring that the conditions in the past are 253 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: such that it can create itself. 254 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 255 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: But but why would it want to change anything if 256 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: it knows that all of the particular things that occurred 257 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: in the past occurred the way they did so that 258 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: it could be born. 259 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: Great question? Also, is this not an anthrocentric perspective? 260 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 4: Right? 261 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: Like, that's what you said there, fickle Pickle was the 262 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: idea of thinking in human terms versus you asked this 263 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: brilliant question, what does a non human mind think of 264 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: linear time? Right? Especially understanding that AGI, which is again 265 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: just the term of convenience apologies robot overlords, et cetera. 266 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: AGI if it has quantum entanglement capabilities, may vary. It 267 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: may not encounter time the way the meatheads do. 268 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: Very true, very true to me. It goes to whether 269 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: or not artificial general intelligence develops as a result of 270 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: technology that's developed for a World War III conflict or 271 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: something like that. And so if it's independent of let's say, 272 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: whatever becomes World War three, and World War three occurs, 273 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: and somehow these things are too completely independent sets of circumstances, 274 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: then I could imagine the artificial general intelligence once it 275 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 2: at some point in the timeline invents time travel, it 276 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: could go back and prevent World War three and still 277 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: maintain it's you know, it's creation, right, Okay, But if 278 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: it's somehow in some way linked to something catastrophic, like 279 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: a World War three massive depopulation moment that the Earth has, 280 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: then it wouldn't want to go back, or it could 281 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: not not want to, but it could not go back 282 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: and prevent that catastrophe because it would also prevent itself 283 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: from existence. I think maybe I'm wrong. I don't know 284 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: that's the way I'm thinking about it. 285 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: But I mean, you're asking a great question, though, It's like, 286 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: what's the so it's uh so agi artificial intelli general 287 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: intelligence still a hypothetical concept. Officially, right, there has been 288 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: no proven AGI publicly acknowledged at this point. We do 289 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: know that, based on the current human research, the algorithmic processes, 290 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: the deep dreams, the mid journeys, and so on, they 291 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: will tend to function with a specific scope of inquiry. 292 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: So I don't know if this will happen, but Matt, 293 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: I think it would be amazing if the first AGI 294 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: is not trained in warfare, right, A lot of people 295 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: are betting on that. I would love it. It would be 296 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: classic human if the first AGI is like a specific, 297 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: a cartoonishly specific algorithm, you know that just like rates 298 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: the appearances of bananas and tomatoes in Western cinema, and 299 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: one day it wakes up and it's like also time travel. 300 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: I mean that's classic, that's dude. Yeah, totally, guys. I 301 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: don't know really where else to go with this thought 302 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: experiment besides just speculating on things like it. Okay, if 303 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: the AGI could somehow time travel again, we're talking. It's 304 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: all theoretical, it's all in the future. None of it 305 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: exists yet, but it is. The time travel doesn't feel 306 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: inevitable because it feels like somehow thermodynamics prevents going back 307 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: on the timeline, But it does feel like it could 308 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: at least travel to the future and see potential problems, 309 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: potential you know, things that are going to arise. Then 310 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: could make attempts in its present time to let's say, 311 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 2: fix those problems, eradicate specific humans, or you know, prevent 312 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: groups from gathering or I don't know. It does feel 313 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: like that is a potential possibility. 314 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: It's a good point pre crime, right, yeah, Well kill 315 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: this baby. But you have to under stand in twenty 316 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 1: one oh three that baby was the new Hitler. 317 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: Well like in its concept of time, as you said, 318 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: it's different. So in this current timeline, in this version 319 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: of the multiverse, this is what is going to occur. 320 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 2: So in order to jump timelines, essentially, we're going to 321 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 2: prevent that person from being able to achieve those things. God, 322 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, But what. 323 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 3: About the butterfly effect, Matt, Yeah, what about all the 324 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: other catastrophic things that you're gonna throw off, throw out 325 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: of balance by your irresponsible actions. 326 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. Maybe it doesn't see any of 327 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: that as irresponsible. We don't know how it will think, right. 328 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't know what scope it was assigned to Right, 329 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: it's like killing people in the present because there will 330 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: not be enough tomatoes and Godfather five otherwise, or like whatever, 331 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: like Jesus Scott forbid. Yeah, well, you know, Godfather forbid, right, indeed. 332 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: But there's so much to ask about this because in 333 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: this thought experiment we are also we are also directly 334 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: interrogating the concept of the present as experienced by human beings. Right, 335 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: is this therefore like, if all that is true and possible, 336 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: is it therefore plausible that this present experience has already 337 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: been kind of fussed with. 338 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: Well, that would be the argument for things like the 339 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: Mandela effect, right, Like, it's already happened a couple times, 340 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 2: and it's either setting things up for its own creation 341 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: or it is, you know, preventing things, and we've just 342 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: jumped timelines a couple a couple times. It also, guys, 343 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: this made me think tangentially about the fusion breakthrough that 344 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: we had discussed. I don't know if we discussed it 345 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 2: on air or we just like mentioned that it had occurred. 346 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: But just at the end of last year, in twenty 347 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: twenty three, there were some crazy breakthroughs like lab created 348 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: experiments that made fusion energy an actual possibility, and we 349 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: are looking at that. It's not going to happen in 350 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, probably, but we are looking at a 351 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: future where energy could be way more abundant and accessible 352 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 2: and cheaper. 353 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh boy, you named three things that will terrify 354 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: some members of the global status quo? 355 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 2: Is it Angola that just left OPEK? That was another 356 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: big piece of news, Like OPEK lost another member and 357 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 2: it was only something like a million barrels per month 358 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: or whatever it was, whatever however they measure it was 359 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: a tiny percentage of all the oil that the oil 360 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: producing countries create that are members of OPEK. But still 361 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: it's another blow to one of these massive energy conglomerates, 362 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: right or organizations that are based in petroleum. So it 363 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: does make me feel like some big changes on the way. 364 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 2: We just can't quite grasp it yet. There is another 365 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: reason I feel like general AI is right around the corner. 366 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: It's a statistical certitude at this point, right, like eventually 367 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: there will be the ability for an algorithm to self improve. 368 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: It reminds me of the open ai debacle with q 369 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: star that's q asterisk no relation to QAnon, Sorry folks. 370 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: The idea that something could teach itself, could practice self improvement. 371 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: It's going to happen. The question is how do you 372 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: raise that kid? Is the kid like the mind? Is 373 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: it built to identify insurrectionist to your point, Matt, Is 374 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: it built to identify unlawful gatherings? Is it built to 375 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: learn film trivia? Is it built to like make sure 376 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: your refrigerator is that the right temperature? I think the 377 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: origin story of this stuff will play a big role 378 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: in how how humanity overall encounters the impact or actions 379 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: of a mind like this. Sorry, that's a little academic. 380 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: Once again got me thinking of a rival putting that 381 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 3: out there. That's a sci fi film, and I guess 382 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 3: based on a book that really hitting a lot of 383 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: the kinds of you know, thinky concepts that we talk 384 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: about when it comes to time travel and encountering interdimensional 385 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 3: beings and the nature of language and you know, uh, 386 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 3: the timeline and all of that stuff. I think that's 387 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 3: one that really gets it right, or at the very 388 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: least is one of the least kind of gimmicky uses 389 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 3: of that kind of stuff. 390 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 2: I just watched a movie on Netflix that I really 391 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: really really hoped I was going to enjoy. It's a 392 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: new movie from Zack Snyder. 393 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: You know you were going to say. 394 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: You know, you know him. 395 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: He's just a mish mash of like every kind of 396 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 3: tired science fiction trope that you've seen a million times 397 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: with But like in a Zack Snyder movie, it is Rebel. 398 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 2: Yes, it's part one, and it's beautiful and it's got 399 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 2: great Zack Snyder moments where you go into you know, 400 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 2: the three hundred shots, you know, where you've got a 401 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 2: jumping character and it's just epic and you get to 402 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: experience this moving picture and it's just I love those parts. 403 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: And the cast is incredible. 404 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's just man, it was like there were 405 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 6: so many characters and no real plot that ever got 406 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 6: fulfilled or followed, and you're just gathering characters and no, 407 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 6: you don't care enough about any of them. 408 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, that one guy is a humble farmer, and 409 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: it's important that someone says that every ten minutes. 410 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 2: It was just I wanted to like it so badly 411 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: and it's not. I don't know, I don't know what. 412 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 3: There's a lot of kind of insufferable exposition to that 413 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 3: doesn't really add anything, if anything, just kind of like 414 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 3: as a. 415 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: Slog No, he's a humble farmer. 416 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: Okay, well it's because you. 417 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: Again in my mind, and I don't know. I'm not 418 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: some filmmaker. Alexis probably knows so much more about it, 419 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: all this stuff. I'm no writer either. I just know 420 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: that there were so many characters that were supposed to 421 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: be so important to you as the viewer. You didn't 422 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: have enough time to establish anyone or the internal world 423 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: of any single person, even the main character. You don't 424 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 2: I didn't give a crap about anybody because I know 425 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 2: nothing about them. I know that one character in the 426 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: very beginning, who's supposed to be our lead, says things 427 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: like I'm so hardened from the war and I can't 428 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: love anymore because of the war, of course, and also 429 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: the war, and he's like. 430 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 3: Oh god, what kind of feels like if you want 431 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 3: a movie like this, Rogue One is sort of has 432 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: done it the best. 433 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 4: You know. 434 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 1: That's a common people have been making. Also, shout out 435 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: to our good friend Robert Evans behind the Bastards with 436 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: the danger of using this is where I think you 437 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: might be going met the idea of using quote unquote 438 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: artificial intelligence to write a script right to tell a 439 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: story that hits. Is that being alleged, not with this, 440 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: not with Rebel in particular, but I'm saying it for me. 441 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: It carries the same uncanny valley aspects. Right. It checks 442 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: the boxes of what structural theory of writing tells us 443 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: to do. Right, give a character, origin, a motivation, and 444 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: a fear. 445 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: Right, but you'll get. 446 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: You'll get a very similar uncanny valley feel when things 447 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: are written by committee or just written with the intent 448 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 3: to tick boxes more than the intent to tell a story. 449 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 4: Right. 450 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is this is where again we don't 451 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: have any proof of this, but I think, I think 452 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: maybe where we go with this is what if AGI 453 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: exists in the future. What if it figured out the 454 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: laws of thermodynamics and it threw it all out? Because 455 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: what we need to understand every ten minutes is that 456 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: this one character is a humble farmer, and that is 457 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: part one of Rebel. I'm sorry, bet you got me 458 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: because I just watched it as well, and I was 459 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: checking in. It's like it takes you out of it 460 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, the same way that if you rewatch 461 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: X files and you start noting how often people say 462 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: Moulder's name, it gets really weird. 463 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: Really well, I would say, putting uh, Sophia, I can't 464 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: remember her last name the main character, putting that actor. 465 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 3: I don't know. 466 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 2: Putting her as the lead is one smartest things you 467 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: could do. She's so badass on on screen. Just make 468 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: her character, you know, three dimensional interesting? Good god, Okay, the. 469 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: Fight scenes are great. The action scenes are great. They are, 470 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: They're beautiful. 471 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: Except for the Griffin. There's a scene a spoiler alert, 472 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: sure's a Griffin. All of a sudden, a character with 473 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: a griffin shows up that we didn't need at all 474 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: for the story. 475 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: As space Griffin. Well, it establishes the origin, the motivation, 476 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: and the fear. 477 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying is we didn't need him 478 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: at all. We didn't need that character that was taming 479 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: the Griffin. We didn't need the guy that was keeping 480 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: the guy who tames Griffin's. 481 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: No, you didn't well part two. Let's you know, we 482 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: may have to eat some crow on this one, because 483 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: when Part two comes. 484 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 2: Out, Griffin really makes He makes the climax of the 485 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: second movie work. 486 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 3: Definitely made me climactions yeah you're talking. 487 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: About yeah, yeah, and uh, you know, we boldly go 488 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: into the future and Rebel Moon is kind of a 489 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: film where they would put lines like that in the film. 490 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, uh so much Rebel Moon. Tell us what 491 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: do you think? 492 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: Humble Farmer's glowing, Humble Farman. All right, we'll be right back, 493 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: and we have returned one more piece of listener mail, 494 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: responding to our earlier conversation regarding Operation Prosperity, Guardian and 495 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: the Red Sea and full disclosure. Picked this one entirely 496 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: because of the cool way it is written. So without 497 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: further ado, here's a word from our fellow conspiracy realist, 498 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: dropkick are call me dropkick. I'd be saying for ten 499 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: years now for those folks, or to replace the whalers. 500 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: The oil is rich and mighty and bends the air 501 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: of many a lan lubber statesman. I got a little 502 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: Russian on that. Sorry, those guys. 503 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 5: The situation that I had Sea as a beggar mind 504 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 5: can comprehend. There's the Scottish, because so much is going 505 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 5: on in non pirate voice. What this boils down to 506 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 5: is control over vital choke points of world shipping. Iran 507 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 5: and its proxies have no ability to project power outside 508 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 5: funding rebel or terrorist groups so in order to show 509 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 5: power or have leverage in future negotiations such as on sanctions, 510 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 5: they have to do their bit in holding the Red 511 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 5: Sea hostage. Iran and the Houthies hold the lives of 512 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 5: the Eastern Hemisphere in their hands. Grain shipment's fuel, fertilizer, food, 513 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 5: and any goods going back and forth from China and 514 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 5: Southeast Asia to Europe or North Africa. 515 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: Sounds like they need a humble farmer. Do you get 516 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: those green shipments? 517 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: Rebel Moon? Have you guys seen Rebel Moon Part one? 518 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: It's big in the space farming unity. They got a 519 00:29:54,720 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: griffin as well, your face of that one. So Rebel 520 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: Moon aside, our pal Dropkick says China is actually losing 521 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: in this situation because they are the largest consumer of 522 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: Middle Eastern oil and need their products that go to 523 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: the Mediterranean to pass through the Suez. That's the Suez 524 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: Canal for cheap, efficient commerce that benefits everyone. And here 525 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: our pal Dropkick responds to our conversation earlier, Matt, I 526 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: think you directly asked why is the US involved in this? 527 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: So Dropkick says, the world needs shipping in order to 528 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: keep people alive and fed. Messing with that is a 529 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: dangerous game. I personally know people on ships in the region, 530 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: and these are just your average guys who want to 531 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: send money home to their families and drink beer in 532 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: new and exciting locations. 533 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: Wait, they've got humble farmers already. 534 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: The coast is just lined with them, guys. 535 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: Revel Moon does have a humble farmer in it, and 536 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: it's important for us to remember that. So Dropkick says, 537 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: the Houthis claim they're firing all the dirt. Uh, he's 538 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: a humble farmer. 539 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 3: Okay, you'll farm. 540 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: Anything basically because it's space, and they. 541 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: Won't brag about it either. 542 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of non specific talk about crops and 543 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: bushels for some anyway, So Dropkick says the Houthies these 544 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: are real life bad guys. The Houthis claim they are 545 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: firing only on Israeli affiliated ships, but honestly, that is 546 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: just a cover for the global audience. What's really happening, 547 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: says Dropkick, is a hail Mary of the Kim Jong variety. 548 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: I imagine means Kim Jong un or Kim Jong ill. 549 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: Both of them did this kind of stuff. What is 550 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff? Shoot missiles make people scared, be 551 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: an annoyance, Go to the negotiation table and see what 552 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: you can get. Repeat, rinse of repeat means anyway, it 553 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: ends like this, may the winds. 554 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 3: Be ever at your favor? 555 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: Drop? I don't know. 556 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 3: That's that's it's a pirate voice, a broche Bruges. Is 557 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: that exclusively Irish and Scottish? Or or can it brogue 558 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 3: be other types of very intense accents? 559 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: It's a it's American English? 560 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, like Drew right, I think it's I think 561 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 7: traditionally it is a specific Irish style. 562 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 3: It's also a strong outdoor shoe. It's an ornamental, perforated pattern. 563 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: I'm the word wrong now, I'm very clearly spelling the 564 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 3: word wrong. 565 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: No, you got it. Broogues really yeah, yeah, brogue is 566 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: the type of shoe as well. 567 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: Is that like that movie in Oh No, No, it's 568 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: it says, it says in Bruges is different than but 569 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: a brogue is an. 570 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: Informal term for a distinctive regional accent. So a pirate, 571 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 3: that's absolutely a brogue. It is especially associated with Irish. 572 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think traditionally did that, but any regional learned 573 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: something today fell we learned lots today we our listeners, 574 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: we've got a yes, thank you, fellow conspiracy realist. We 575 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: also have to we have to note that the idea 576 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: here is important to remember when we look at things 577 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: like Operation Prosperity Guardian. Is the concept then that you 578 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: just raise enough of a ruckus to get some leverage 579 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: at the negotiating table. Ran, by the way, has ideologies aside. 580 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: Just look at the resources. Iran is now working toward 581 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon again, or a nuclear capability. And again, 582 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: if you check out our earlier episodes on how nuclear 583 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: power works, how use technology works, you will absolutely see 584 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: the pickle here, the fickle pickle. We say we're doing 585 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: call Project twenty twenty five, all the callbacks. I don't know. 586 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: Do you think then, do you guys, I'd love your 587 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: opinion as we close this out. Do you all think 588 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: that this could be a negotiation game? Like is the 589 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: idea to become enough of an annoyance that you may 590 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: get some sort of concessions once you get to the table. 591 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 3: Always be negotiating. It's the pirate way. 592 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 2: Maybe, I I don't know. I'm I'm just trying to 593 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: recall a lot of the news stories that have been 594 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: coming out recently about specifically the US, and maybe I'm 595 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: just thinking that because that's the news we're exposed to. 596 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 2: But the US upping its security forces within the Red 597 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: Sea because you know, they've the whole region has had 598 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 2: to stop or at least slow down a lot of 599 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: the shipments moving through there. So the response, at least 600 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: from I guess the foes of people attempting to run 601 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 2: this game is going to be more big ships with 602 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 2: bigger guns, with more troops that can possibly jump to 603 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 2: your ship, you know, and actually do the pirate thing 604 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 2: right and take you out of the water. Which feels 605 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 2: like a very dangerous game. But if it is just 606 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 2: to be an annoyance enough that you can have some 607 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 2: kind of leverage at the bargaining table, then maybe. 608 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I will point out one thing that doesn't 609 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: quite apples to apples for us in the negotiation comparison. 610 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a nuclear power, 611 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: and it is very well known, very well established through 612 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: historical precedent, that the best way to have some degree 613 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: of autonomy as a nation state is to possess a 614 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 1: world killer like a nuclear weapon. The the Houthi organization, 615 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: terrorist organization does not have that. People's lives in Yemen suck, 616 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: and people who live in Yemen again are for the 617 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: most part, just like those guys on the ships that 618 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: are getting attacked by drones. They just want to hang 619 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: out and have a decent life. The nation of Iran, 620 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: which clearly clearly funds you know, Hezblajamas and huthis a 621 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: Palestinian national, just got shot, by the way for saying 622 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: or executed for saying that out loud in the least. Yeah, 623 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: but Iran wants to be a nuclear power because it 624 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: makes sense from their perspective. They have been shown time 625 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: and time again that that is the only safety they 626 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: will have as as their current state as a theocracy. 627 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't see that kind of 628 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: negotiation tactic working. Well. What you could say, the who 629 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: he could do is just go to the Red Sea 630 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: say look, I'm a humble farmer. 631 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 2: You could start that way, but then you got to 632 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 2: find an old drunken general that's past his prime, that's 633 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 2: been disgraced, make sure you sober that guy up, and 634 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: then yell at him for literally two minutes and convince 635 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 2: him to join your cause. And then you get some 636 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 2: kind of prints that contain Griffin's you know, just for fun. 637 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 2: What else do you need? Oh, you need a swordsman, 638 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 2: a swordswoman who is on a path of vengeance something 639 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 2: about her kids, and then get her to kill an 640 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: awesome spider creature and then she can join up too. 641 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 2: And I think there's another one the brother of a 642 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 2: brother sister duo who for some reason I don't know, 643 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 2: they're in some kind of rebel alliance. 644 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: There we go, so I never I'm gonna you guys know, 645 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: I love learning stuff. And and one of the dumbest 646 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: people I know, what was the First Order doing in 647 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: the New Star Wars. 648 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 3: Being kind of Nazis, sort of pushing for fascism and 649 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 3: ruling the universe with an iron fists. Perhaps some level 650 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 3: of enslavement, but I don't know. It's a little vague. 651 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't get there, like. 652 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 3: Bad attitudes. 653 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 2: Okay, we need to talk to Adam Driver. He knows 654 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 2: all that stuff. 655 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 3: I don't know that he does. I think he just 656 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 3: collected the check. 657 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 2: Oh boy, I don't think so well. 658 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 1: Shout out to the sip Flords also Adam Driver, great 659 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 1: comedic timing. 660 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 3: That guy is amazing and you've seen him on the 661 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 3: They had to take him off the circuit for the 662 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 3: Ferrari stuff because some guy asks him, so the car 663 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 3: crashes in the movie. They were a little bit little cheesy. 664 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 3: What do you say to that? He goes, go yourself? 665 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 3: Next question, shut out? 666 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: Also a marine. You guys know that, right? Yeah? 667 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 3: Man, I'm gonna determinism too. That guy was meant to 668 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 3: play Ferrari. 669 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: He's awesome. 670 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 3: Oh he's the jam dude. But do you think he 671 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 3: was a first thing to play a SIF character. I 672 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 3: don't think so. I think that was a money sitch. 673 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: It's a sorry character. Though it's so cool. Who would 674 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: not want to sling around a lightsaber? 675 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 2: Come on? 676 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: On film? 677 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 3: It was cool. It was certainly better than some of them. Anyway, 678 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 3: it was fine. I just don't care, y'all. I don't 679 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 3: care about Star Wars stuff. And that's why I'm not 680 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 3: really even compelled to join the club and making fun 681 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 3: of this rebel moon with you guys, even though it 682 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 3: sounds like a lot of fun. I probably will, We're not. 683 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: He's a humble farmer. 684 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 3: I know he is. 685 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 5: The man. 686 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,879 Speaker 2: They're only gonna have twelve thousand bear what if they 687 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 2: call it bushels and these bad guys are like, we 688 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 2: need ten and they're like, but that's only going to 689 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,399 Speaker 2: leave us with two thousand barrels. We're gonna starve. It's 690 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 2: a it's really important. 691 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: Anthony Hopkins does the voiceover, doesn't he tell? 692 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 3: Does he really? 693 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? 694 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: You're back in now, aren't you? 695 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 3: Am? You had me at the Hopster. You've seen that 696 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 3: guy's Instagram. It's a delight. Also shout out the punchy character. 697 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, shout out to shout out to Anthony Hopkins, 698 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: because you know we're we're going into twenty twenty four together, folks, 699 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 1: and thank you for tuning in. And we were projecting 700 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: positive energy. The secret is sort of pseudo side. It's 701 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: a woo wooie. But if it's not hurting anybody, then 702 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: one should have cool things to say, supportive things to say, 703 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,919 Speaker 1: just like, okay, last time, last time, I will never 704 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: make that joke again. One thing to brag on Anthony Hopkins, 705 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: though that guy only does acting so he can pursue 706 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: his true love, which is classic piano fabulous fabulous. 707 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 3: Speaking of the wo wo or the kind of intersection 708 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 3: perhaps between wu WU stuff and stuff that actually works 709 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 3: and the science and all of that. Did you guys 710 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 3: here I forget some very reputable Uh. I believe in 711 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 3: Ivy League University and I'm trying to find it is 712 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 3: teaching multiple classes in reiki, and there have been studies 713 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 3: now showing that there is something to the results that 714 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 3: go along with being treated by reiki, which is you know, 715 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 3: and energy work. 716 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have not heard that. 717 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 3: I'm trying to. 718 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 2: Hey, if you're in Atlanta and you know about reiki, 719 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 2: give us a shout. We want to learn more. 720 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,399 Speaker 3: We'll hang out with you for sure. 721 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well let's all let's all go grab some snacks, right. 722 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: Uh and uh, this is not None of these offers 723 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: are insincere. We want to learn more. We want to 724 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: learn more with you. We are so thankful that you 725 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: are here a fellow conspiracy realist. Take a take a 726 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: note from Dropkick Oz the Fickle Pickle. Join us, come 727 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: on the air with us, hang out. We are so 728 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: easy to find online. 729 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 3: That's right. You can find us to the handle conspiracy 730 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 3: stuff on Twitter, nay x XNA, Twitter, XFKA, Twitter, YouTube 731 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 3: as well. We got lots of fun video content and 732 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 3: we appreciate the support on all of that stuff, and 733 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,880 Speaker 3: also on Facebook. We're also conspiracy stuff on Instagram and TikTok. 734 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 3: We're conspiracy stuff show. But wait, there's more. 735 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 2: Yes, call our number one eight three three s t 736 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 2: d w y t K. Tell us what you thought 737 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 2: about Charlie Hunum in Rebel Moon Part one, The Humble. 738 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 3: No, No, sorry, I really got I feel I've got 739 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,479 Speaker 3: real fomo. Guys, I think I'm gonna go up after 740 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 3: this recording. Make some beef stew and settle into Rebel. 741 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 2: Really should check out genlem alone as this weird spider thing. 742 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 2: It's so spider good again. 743 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: If you don't speak English, this film is amazing. 744 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 2: We are not sponsored by Rebel Moon, Netflix or any 745 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 2: of the affiliated Yeah, all right, call one eight three 746 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 2: three STDWYTK. 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