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Speaker 2: App past call A Happy Wednesday and the WNBA. I

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Speaker 2: never thought I would say this, the gift that keeps

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Speaker 2: on giving. Carry ro one d in a time where

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Speaker 2: baseball is about to cruise into an All Star break,

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Speaker 2: NBA free agency is really slowed down, and we're still

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Speaker 2: a few weeks away from the NFL training camps. It's

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Speaker 2: the WNBA that pumps the blood of sports fans, maybe

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Speaker 2: just more of the drama that's going on in the WNBA.

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Speaker 2: We are about to dive in carry up at Carrie

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Speaker 2: twenty five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer

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Speaker 2: on Fox Chiefs GM. Brett Viach had something very interesting

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Speaker 2: to say about one of his star players. We'll dive

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Speaker 2: into that in about twenty minutes or so. Plus it's

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday, so you know it's time for the Midway.

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Speaker 2: Jason Stewart is here as his eye with Sam Chris

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Speaker 2: Burffett will give us all the breaking news we need,

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Speaker 2: plus the updates throughout the day. But the latest update

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Speaker 2: that we have on the WNBA is the All Star

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Speaker 2: Game is coming up, and last night they had a

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Speaker 2: draft of the All Star players, with Nafisa Kllier being

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Speaker 2: teams and Indiana Fever guard Caitlin Clark being the captain

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Speaker 2: of the other team. And we've seen this draft process

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Speaker 2: go on before Kerry where in the NBA, Giannis and

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Speaker 2: but then it got a little bit old. There's more

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Speaker 2: drama on who is the first pick and who's the

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Speaker 2: settles out. But I thought that last night's WNBA draft

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Speaker 2: draft All Star Game draft provided some interesting, let's just

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Speaker 2: call them drama threads throughout that for some reason, keep

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you'll have to break down all the little details

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Speaker 3: of what happened in that draft. I do know that,

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Speaker 3: you know, I guess the fallout. The immediate fallout was

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Speaker 3: with the great Kaitlyn Clark was not on her team.

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Speaker 3: I saw that, and there's more to that story. I

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Speaker 3: want you to break it down a little bit more

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Speaker 3: for me, Dan, but that was my immediate thing, nobody

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Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's an opportunity for Kaitlyn

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Speaker 2: that she's doing it in a way that isn't in

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Speaker 2: it very interesting. Now, Brianna Stewart's initially had comments when

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Speaker 2: Clark was coming into the NBA because there was a

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Speaker 2: lot of question on was Kaitlyn Clark the greatest college

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Speaker 2: a lot of people who were saying, well, Brianna Stewart

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Speaker 2: is look at what she did at yukon all of

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Speaker 2: Brianna Stewart was kind of thrown into the mix. I

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Speaker 2: think that Caitlyn Clark and Brianna Stewart have a good relationship. Yes,

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Speaker 2: And even throughout this back and forth that was going on.

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Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark even said, Hey, I'll try to acquire Brianna

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Speaker 2: And if he's Collier's like, I'm not going to trade,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to trade her. But still, Briana Stewart

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Speaker 2: And then, most notably, Angel Reese was not drafted by

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Speaker 2: Kitlyn Clark, and there is an opportunity for Caitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 2: I think if she wanted to make good and she

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Speaker 2: I don't think that Caitlin Clark should do that. I

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Speaker 2: But maybe it's even better for now Caitlin Clark to

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Speaker 2: the matter is is Caitlin Clark did not pick Angel

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Speaker 3: Well, for Kitlyn Clark to leave Angel Rees and the dust,

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously the hyperbole of all of this is,

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Speaker 3: been up and down this year. So for me, they

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Speaker 2: Be worth moments? Angel Reese had.

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Speaker 3: Well, she's had double doubles. She continues to do. That

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Speaker 3: streak is still one of those things that's alive. I

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Speaker 3: who we all know that I mean, that's everything I

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Speaker 3: shot poorly from the three, She's turned the ball over,

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Speaker 3: and when she's played, her team hasn't won as much.

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Speaker 4: As she should like.

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Speaker 3: This team is coming into the year, should be one

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about from the overall scope of looking at

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Speaker 3: There's no question she is the face and can be

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Speaker 3: the face of the WNBA. She's not the face. Agel

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Speaker 3: Wilson's the face, but Kaitlyn Clark is the person that

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Speaker 3: So there is still some stuff still to be determined

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Speaker 2: Opinion, Okay, so you think that it's the gap is

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Speaker 2: not as wide between Kaitlyn Clark and Angel Reese.

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Speaker 3: At the present moment, meaning what they put out even

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Speaker 3: and sure Kaitlyn Clark isn't hitting her shots either I'm

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Speaker 3: just saying right now, the way they're playing.

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Speaker 2: And you think Asia Wilson's the face of the WNBA

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Speaker 2: right now, Yes, she's the best player in the league.

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Speaker 2: Well that's different than the face of the and I

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Speaker 2: just said, and I said that before I say Kaitlin

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Speaker 2: You have to make it exciting. You have to, you know,

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Speaker 2: be energetic. And the most energetic point came when I think,

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Speaker 2: aside from Angel Reese, who hasn't necessarily thrown direct shade

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Speaker 2: either taunted or said other things or tried to be

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Speaker 2: part of the conversation. Cheryl Reeve is the Minnesota Links

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Speaker 2: head coach, and she was going to be the head

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Speaker 5: To be completely honest, I love my team. I think

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Speaker 5: they're great. I don't have any intentions of really trading

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Speaker 5: any of them. I don't know if this is in

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Speaker 5: the rules. I don't really care, but I think we've

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Speaker 5: already discussed we are going to trade coaches. If he's

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Speaker 5: going to take her coach, Sandy Brondelo, let's get it

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Speaker 5: would be amazing. Sorry WNBA if that's not in the rule,

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Speaker 5: we just made it a rule now, So Sandy Brondelo,

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Speaker 5: come on over, get to it. You can coach Sabrina.

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Speaker 5: So therefore, maybe Stewie wants to come on over to

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Speaker 5: my team, Well, let me know you want to give

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Speaker 2: So there there was the Brianna Stewart aspect of it,

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Speaker 2: but let's be real. They didn't swap coaches, so and

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Speaker 2: if he'sa Collier could be coached by her head coach.

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Speaker 2: They swapped coaches because Caitlyn Clark didn't want to deal

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Speaker 2: WNBA season. Caitlin Clark wanting no part of the Minnesota

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Speaker 3: The crazy part about what we're talking about right now

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Speaker 3: actually think it's fun that she didn't draft Angel Reese. Yes,

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Speaker 3: of things have now happened. The tide is turned, and

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Speaker 3: while not everything is on Caitlin Clark's side, she's in

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Speaker 3: a much better position now as a second year professional

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Speaker 3: now it can benefit Caitlin Clark to have this beef.

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Speaker 3: I felt, up until this point recently everybody else who

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Speaker 3: a tide turner as well. That changed part of the narrative.

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Speaker 3: If I'm Kitlin Clark, not only am I now trying

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Speaker 3: And not that she didn't do it last year, but

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Speaker 3: I think it was difficult when there were so many

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Speaker 3: now she has people on her side and has the

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Speaker 3: ability to make a move like this, to trade the

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Speaker 3: All Star coach that had talked ish about her and

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Speaker 3: put her on the other team. And I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: what for what Cheryl Reeve has said previously about Kitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that she needs to kiss the ring,

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Speaker 3: but you're never going to escape that when you went

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Speaker 3: to try to prove a point. And I think now

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Speaker 3: Clark because now the power seems to be in Clark's hands.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, everybody's find finding out that when

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Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark plays and she plays.

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Speaker 4: Well, the league is a better league.

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Speaker 3: And if she doesn't, and the vitual that comes towards

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Speaker 3: her isn't warranted, Like you're you're the one that's going

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Speaker 3: to catch the flag. Now, nobody's actually looking at Caitlyn

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Speaker 3: Clark and thinking that she's a minus when it comes

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Speaker 3: to that league, right correct, There's nothing about her that's

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Speaker 3: power that she is in, the power that she possesses

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Speaker 3: as you know, one of the best players in that

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Speaker 3: game and the face of that league, you cannot you

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Speaker 3: can't take shots at that unwarranted. I mean people will

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Speaker 2: Makes sense absolutely, But I think she could also do

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Speaker 3: Is this the Beatles? Is this the Beatles? Imagine? Imagine

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Speaker 2: In for Doug Gottlieb Today.

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Speaker 3: back to where you can least be a service player

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Speaker 3: in that league?

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Speaker 4: And that comes that word is pride. Pride.

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Speaker 3: This guy is one of the best tight ends in

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Speaker 3: the history of the league. He has lost a step,

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Speaker 3: very evident, like you cannot hide.

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Speaker 2: Numbers show it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't hide it.

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Speaker 3: But now, what's going to be the thing that's going

437
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Speaker 3: to drive you to continue to do this if you're

438
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Speaker 3: not hungry anymore?

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Speaker 4: Or what is the thing?

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Speaker 3: Is it to erase that image that you just spoke about.

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Speaker 3: Is it a selfish reason? We don't know about, But

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Speaker 3: that's the question that's going to be answered, because if

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Speaker 3: it's selfish, I don't think he's he's going to come

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Speaker 3: into this y and get anything get anything done either.

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Speaker 2: I think there is a selfish reason.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 4: I'll get to it.

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Speaker 2: And I think you know where I'm going with this,

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Speaker 2: But I think there is a selfish reason. But I

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Speaker 2: want to ask you this, as someone who spent eight

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Speaker 2: years in the NFL, played in an all pro level,

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Speaker 2: unfortunately never made it to a Super Bowl, Right, can

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Speaker 2: you fathom someone being ho hum about making it to

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Speaker 2: a third straight Super Bowl? Because I almost feel, I

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Speaker 2: almost feel that that kind of happened with the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they were out of gas. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if they just expected it to happen, considering

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Speaker 2: they won the previous two Super Bowls in pretty dramatic fashion,

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Speaker 2: the Eagles two years prior in the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 2: in overtime the year before that. But do you become complacent.

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Speaker 2: Do you just expect the Super Bowl? Can you fathom that?

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Speaker 2: As an NFL I can't fathom it because I've never been. Yeah,

463
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Speaker 2: but when you do something over and over again at

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Speaker 2: a high level and you continue to see the reward

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Speaker 2: of it, I think you start to expect it, and

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Speaker 2: once you get there, like the excitement of it may

467
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Speaker 2: not be the same. Again, I can't speak for it.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been, but just looking at it and being

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Speaker 2: involved in it, there could be some complacency there and for.

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Speaker 3: Him and for that team, it's it's all. It seemed

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Speaker 3: like for the last five six years, it's been a

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Speaker 3: ride of passage, and that's they expect to be there.

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Speaker 3: But when you get there and you play against a

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Speaker 3: team like the Eagles that's hungry and looking for revenge,

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Speaker 3: there's no way you should not be excited to do

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Speaker 3: that and to go to war in that moment.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what was so tough for us to understand.

478
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Speaker 2: It is because three peaks in the NFL, they don't happen, right,

479
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Speaker 2: they haven't. But they had an opportunity to make history

480
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Speaker 2: when it came to winning three straight Super Bowls, and

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Speaker 2: here Travis Kelcey is putting forth the effort. Now, a

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Speaker 2: lot of that had to do with maybe the Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: Eagles taking the life out of them as quickly as

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Speaker 2: they did, But still you go back to that pride point.

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Speaker 2: The selfish point is the point that I've brought up before,

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Speaker 2: and I do think it's an issue, and I think

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Speaker 2: if we dissect, I think it makes a lot more

488
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Speaker 2: sense instead of just trying to throw it out there

489
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Speaker 2: and making it TMZ or scandalous. I think his relationship

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Speaker 2: with Taylor Swift is also something where he needs something

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Speaker 2: in his life and everything that he has gotten in

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Speaker 2: his life has been through football, and now you're with

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Speaker 2: someone who has a completely separate life, and these worlds

494
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Speaker 2: kind of blend in. But once you stop playing, and

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Speaker 2: once you stop playing football for the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: your life is drastically different. Yes, And I think that

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Speaker 2: there's probably a fear in that in what happens with

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Speaker 2: life after football. And I'll also say this that I

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Speaker 2: didn't take into consideration until recently. Jason Kelsey has become

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Speaker 2: a star in his own right in part because of

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Speaker 2: Travis's success and Travis being the star that he is.

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Speaker 2: Jason Kelcey was loved in Philadelphia. He was a star

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Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. He was not a national star. That did

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Speaker 2: not happen. But you have the podcast, you have the

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Speaker 2: New Heights podcast, you have the documentary that they did

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago on Jason and that spotlight

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Speaker 2: becoming bigger. Now you have your brother who is kind

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Speaker 2: of the opposite of you, who kind of paved this

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Speaker 2: way and built himself up. Travis kelce had the dating

510
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Speaker 2: TV show when he was in the NFL, even before

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Speaker 2: he met Taylor Swift, he won the Super Bowls. He

512
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Speaker 2: had all of that come to him. So while Jason

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Speaker 2: Kelcey's life is going upwards and continuing to grow now

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Speaker 2: outside of football, because he's Jason Kelcey, I think there's

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Speaker 2: probably a fear for Travis Kelcey of what is my

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Speaker 2: life after football?

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Speaker 3: Sure, the identity thing is a real thing, and all

518
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Speaker 3: of us have to deal with it, right, some of

519
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Speaker 3: us are better off at kind of you know, diving

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Speaker 3: into Act two. But for the most part, when you're

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Speaker 3: an athlete and that identity has gone and that's been

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Speaker 3: your identity since you're a five, probably mm hm, it's

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Speaker 3: it's a scary it's a scary proposition.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, and I don't know how much

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Speaker 2: you acted and how much you did music when you

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Speaker 2: were in the National Football League, but your career now,

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Speaker 2: in an addition and doing media that you're doing right now,

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Speaker 2: your life is probably as full as it was when

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Speaker 2: you were playing. You're in the studio, you're on set,

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Speaker 2: you're doing something like that. Yeah, I would think for

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelce then to have his brother have a career

532
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Speaker 2: like this, that's that's on the upward swing. To have

533
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Speaker 2: your whether they're engaged, I don't know, girlfriend, fiance, whatever,

534
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Speaker 2: future wife, be the biggest pop star there is. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: I just think that that it's human nature to be like,

536
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Speaker 2: what's there for me? So hanging on and coming back

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Speaker 2: and pointing to the super Bowl and saying I can't

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Speaker 2: go out like that is completely fair. But I truly

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Speaker 2: don't know what we're going to get from Travis kelce

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Speaker 2: this season. I think it's scary for the Chiefs because

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Speaker 2: I don't think that they've adequately ever planned for Travis

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Speaker 2: Kelcey to not be there in Kansas City. There's no

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Speaker 2: era apparent for Patrick Mahomes to throw to. There's no

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Speaker 2: young tight end to move along. So I'm very, very

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Speaker 2: curious on how things are gonna work out this season

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Speaker 2: for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious about not how he's going to play, because

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Speaker 3: I don't think he can be a possession guy, and

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Speaker 3: he can be a guy that I could probably make

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Speaker 3: a direct correlation to Tony Gonzalez.

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Speaker 4: When he was in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: He was a shell of himself there, and I remember

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Speaker 3: covering him my first game as a rookie in Kansas

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Speaker 3: City when I was with the Jets and seeing who

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Speaker 3: he was. Then to my last couple of years he's

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Speaker 3: in Atlanta and I'm like, ooh, that guys. He can't

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Speaker 3: even pick his feet up. That's what it looks like

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Speaker 3: with Kelsey. But even with that being said, he could

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Speaker 3: still be a security blanket for Patrick Mahomes. It's not

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Speaker 3: like he's a receiver that has to go out and

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Speaker 3: he is important for them, but he doesn't have to

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Speaker 3: be the guy that's going for over twelve hundred yards anymore.

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Speaker 3: Can still be a guy that keeps the tame moving

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Speaker 3: and so I think he will be an important, smaller

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Speaker 3: important piece still, But as far as him being the

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Speaker 3: guy again, that's.

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Speaker 2: Gone Yeah, it's probably been gone for a little while.

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Speaker 2: He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer in for Doug Gottlieb

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Speaker 2: today here on Fox Sports Radio. Find Carrie at Carrie

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Speaker 2: twenty five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer

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Speaker 2: on Fox. Coming up next a couple of uniform releases

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Speaker 2: for the upcoming NFL season. We're released. Yeah, who did

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Speaker 2: it better? DC or New Orleans will find out next

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 8: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: He's carry Rhoads, the All Pro. Jason Stewart's here, as

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Speaker 8: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 2: Chris Purfetts is at the news desk and as our

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Speaker 2: game today. What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Chris?

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Speaker 4: Hi?

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Speaker 9: I think this is my first game time, so this

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Speaker 9: is very exciting. So Sam, what are we playing?

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Speaker 8: For Better or Worse?

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Speaker 4: Okay, good?

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Speaker 9: I had almost thought that we were playing something completely different,

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Speaker 9: so so never mind that, Let's move on to better.

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Speaker 4: For Better or Worse?

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Speaker 9: So we have two NFL teams who unveiled new alternates today.

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Speaker 9: We got the helmets for the Saints, but the folk

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Speaker 9: jerseys for the new Washington Commanders alternates, throwing back to

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Speaker 9: the Super Bowl era. So Carrie and Dan for Better

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Speaker 9: or Worse? The the Better Worse glow up the New

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Speaker 9: Orleans Saints helmets or the Washington Commander's alternates.

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Speaker 2: I think it's difficult to top Washington trying to go

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Speaker 2: back as much as they can to the old uniform.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say that those are better. Carrie and

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Speaker 2: I may disagree on this, So I don't want to

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Speaker 2: take it in a negative route because I like the

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Speaker 2: Saint's white helmet. I think it's better than the black

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Speaker 2: alternate they previously had. But it's just tough to top

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Speaker 2: what Washington unveiled today because it does look very close

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Speaker 2: to what they used to wear in their heyday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just think about the old school hogs of the

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Speaker 3: Redskins days back in the late the early nineties, the

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Speaker 3: early the late eighties, and just seeing how dirty they

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Speaker 3: were with the jerseys, and it just it, it just

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Speaker 3: reeks of excellent. So I think that's better. And for

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Speaker 3: the Saints helmet, it looks good.

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Speaker 4: It's fine.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's better, though, I think it's for

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Speaker 3: worse when it comes to the helmet situation. There are

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Speaker 3: many people who feel that this should be the commander's

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Speaker 3: normal look. But again goes back to what we talked

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Speaker 3: about yesterday when we were in for Camino and Rich

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Speaker 3: on throwbacks. They want the throwbacks to be the better uniform,

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Speaker 3: to be the one that they least wear, because wise

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Speaker 3: it would dominate the market.

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Speaker 9: Right I yeah, and I think just go with whatever

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Speaker 9: looks best. But so I was thinking about this as

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Speaker 9: there has been plenty of arguments this is top ten

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Speaker 9: quarterback season. But let me ask you, guys, because I

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Speaker 9: was thinking about this and I started putting together a

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Speaker 9: Mount Rushmore in my head, and I realized we have

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Speaker 9: so many different formats for these things. Let me ask you,

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Speaker 9: what do you think is best? A Mount Rushmore of

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Speaker 9: great athletes, a Holy Trinity, or a top five. I

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Speaker 9: know you can include more in the top five, but

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Speaker 9: sometimes less is more too.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw a curveball at because Mike Harmon and

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Speaker 2: I have done the Sunday Show for a while and

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Speaker 2: we used to be on in the mornings and we

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Speaker 2: would do a metal stand, gold, silver, and bronze. And

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Speaker 2: the thing that I don't like about the Mount Rushmore

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Speaker 2: is it feels that everybody's on the same level. Maybe

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Speaker 2: if your face is the first one is George Washington,

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Speaker 2: you feel like you're number one, but it just seems

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Speaker 2: like all four on the same level. So I am

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Speaker 2: going to go for for Chris's perspective, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: say a top five because it actually ranks than who

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Speaker 2: you think are the best. But I just wanted to

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Speaker 2: bring up the metal stand because it's something that we've

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Speaker 2: done at Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: The metal stand would be almost impossible to get I

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Speaker 3: think people on the same plane. So I would say

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Speaker 3: the top five is probably the safe better than the

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Speaker 3: sasing amount rushmore. Iowa Sam, how about a court of supremacy?

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Speaker 8: Nine?

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Speaker 2: Oh, interesting, I like it.

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Speaker 4: Court supremacy the top ten hours. How we got to

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Speaker 4: do that in the fall.

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Speaker 2: We have to do that in the fall. Iowa Sam's

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Speaker 2: Court of Supremacy.

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Speaker 4: I like it, all right.

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Speaker 9: So Wimbledon's going on right now. This is always a moment,

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Speaker 9: dear to my heart, because usually mean making Pym's Cup.

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Speaker 9: So Wimbledon or the US Open. And for dance clarity, yes,

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Speaker 9: I'm talking the US Open of tennis, not golf.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Carrie, do you have a preference over high I know,

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Speaker 2: I know where he was going. I'm a fan of

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Speaker 2: tennis too, not as much, but all right, you're like

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Speaker 2: Wimbledon and the US Open better.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna say US Open.

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Speaker 3: It was a chance for me, especially when I was

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Speaker 3: in New York too, right before it was almost ceremoniously,

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Speaker 3: right like right before training camp. I would be able

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Speaker 3: to sit in the box and watch those guys go

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Speaker 3: to war Pete Tampras and there is controlling days.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'll take the US Open. There is something

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Speaker 4: magical about like a lot.

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Speaker 9: I know a lot of Wimbledon complaints this year have

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Speaker 9: been about the curfew, But is with the US Open

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Speaker 9: that that goes on the wee hours of the night magic?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's two forty two in the morning in New

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Speaker 2: York City and we're about to enter the fifth set. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like there is the late night like that's and that's

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Speaker 2: part of the draw, Like who's playing at night? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: at the US Open, there is something with it. Arthur

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Speaker 2: as Stadium, I get it, I get it. But Wimbledon's better.

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Speaker 2: But it just it just is the grass, the yes,

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Speaker 2: the history, everything that's with it. Yes, I think Wimbledon's better.

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Speaker 9: All right, So video game release and I am I'm

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Speaker 9: hesitant about this one, but we've got three entries for

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Speaker 9: better or worse NBA two K, which you guys were

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Speaker 9: just talking about with Angel Reese, Madden or third entry

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Speaker 9: into this into this trinity, the new recent college football series.

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Speaker 9: As we start to get glimpses at college football twenty six, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Gonna say this, I think Madden's the worst. It feels

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Speaker 2: like it's the same game always. It doesn't, and I

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Speaker 2: know that that may be blasphemous to say for how

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Speaker 2: popular it is, but nothing gets better to me than

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Speaker 2: the college football game. Now, I don't have a PS five,

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Speaker 2: so I didn't get the new one last year, but

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Speaker 2: I had. I had them all up until it stopped

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Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, the college football game to me is better

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Speaker 2: with Madden being the worst.

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Speaker 4: Madden being the worst.

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Speaker 3: Wow. For me, it's definitely add because as as a professional,

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Speaker 3: right you get to have that moment of you being

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Speaker 3: on the video game, and so that was always a

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Speaker 3: big deal. So even if the game was bad, I

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Speaker 3: got to play with Carry, So it's gotten a cool carry.

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Speaker 9: Don't care more about your Madden, your Madden rating or

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Speaker 9: if you appear in the NFL Top one hundred.

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Speaker 3: The Madden rating for sure, like you, I would, I

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Speaker 3: would send complaints. Will I play quarterback in college? My

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Speaker 3: quarterback powers are ten? Come on, man, boost it up

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Speaker 3: to thirty.

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Speaker 2: Watch the tight end just blow past carry roads as

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Speaker 2: his speed is at fifty eight. For racing. Game time,

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Speaker 2: that is game time.

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Speaker 8: Game This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 2: To Find Chris on X Chris Burffett. He is Carrie Rhodes,

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Speaker 2: the eight year NFL VET and former All Pro. I'm

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Speaker 2: Dan Beyer in for Doug Gottlieb Today. A bit of

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Speaker 2: history last night in Major League Baseball. We talked about

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Speaker 2: it next on Fox Sports Radio