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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts.

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Speaker 2: Now, We're going to.

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Speaker 3: Flood the zone. Sanctuary city. I've said a thousand times,

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Speaker 3: go get exactly what they don't want, more agents in

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Speaker 3: the communities and more work law enforcement if they won't

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Speaker 3: let us arrest a bad guy in the safety and

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Speaker 4: If we had addressed this by amending the Welcoming City

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Speaker 4: Ordinance several months ago, we would not be in this

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Speaker 4: position today, in my opinion, if we had shown a

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Speaker 4: willingness to work with Donald Trump, Tom Holman, and Christy

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Speaker 4: Nome to say, look, we know you know where the

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Speaker 4: high priority targets are.

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Speaker 5: Let us help you.

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Speaker 6: When we arrest them, we'll let you know.

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Speaker 4: I think we've been in a very different spot than

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Speaker 4: where we find ourselves today.

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Speaker 7: We have reason to believe that the Trump administration has

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Speaker 7: already begun staging the Texas National Guard for deployment in Illinois.

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Speaker 7: I want to be very clear on this point, and

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Speaker 7: I want to speak directly to the press right now.

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Speaker 7: We know before anything has happened here, that the Trump

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Speaker 7: plan is to use any excuse to deploy armed military

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Speaker 7: personnel to Chicago.

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Speaker 8: If he comes to Chicago he's going to be in

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Speaker 8: court and to be He's going to be sued by

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Speaker 8: the state, He's going to be sued by the city,

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Speaker 8: and I believe that there would private interest that also

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Speaker 8: sue him.

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Speaker 1: This is not about violent crime, and.

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Speaker 8: I don't think we should pretend that this manufacture crisis

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Speaker 8: and his attempt to provoke people in Chicago is legitimate

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Speaker 8: exercise of power.

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Speaker 9: It is not.

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Speaker 10: You know, I actually think that JB. Prinsker should do

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Speaker 10: something radical. I think he should pick up the phone,

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Speaker 10: call the president and say, let's part these are the

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Speaker 10: most dangerous parts of my state.

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Speaker 5: We would love to figure.

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Speaker 10: Out how to have a partnership that's constitutional, that respects

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Speaker 10: the sort of balance of federalism between the federal government

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Speaker 10: and the state government, and let's work together to save lives.

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Speaker 10: Because right now, just hey, nothing to see here, moving along,

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Speaker 10: no problem here, Hey, Donald Trump, we don't need you.

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Speaker 10: And you know, the mayor talking about we're going to

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Speaker 10: protect people's dignity in our city, will protect their lives.

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Speaker 1: That's protecting their dignity.

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Speaker 11: He's declaring he's go to Card nine emergencies since he's elected,

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Speaker 11: so that he can violate all sorts of constitutional norms

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Speaker 11: when it comes to deporting people and offers of them.

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Speaker 12: Do you believe it is violating constitutional norms for the president,

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Speaker 12: the head of the federal government, the head of the

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Speaker 12: executive branch, to be enforcing federal immigration law.

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Speaker 5: Because a big issue here.

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Speaker 12: They're over half a million illegal immigrants in Illinois. I

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Speaker 12: suspect most of them live in and around Chicago. Why

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Speaker 12: wouldn't you surge federal law enforcement recas to the place

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Speaker 12: where that many people are violating federal law.

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Speaker 13: But we will never be able to end gun violence

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Speaker 13: in Chicago as long as the President continues to allow

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Speaker 13: tens of thousands of guns to be trafficked into our

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Speaker 13: state and our city. Vast majority of guns do not

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Speaker 13: come from Chicago. They are not made in Cook County,

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Speaker 13: they are not bought in the state of Illinois. These

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Speaker 13: guns come from red states. They are coming from Indiana,

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Speaker 13: they are coming from Mississippi, they are coming from Louisiana.

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Speaker 13: That is the harsh reality. Whether Republicans like it or not,

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Speaker 13: Occupying our city will do nothing to solve this problem.

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Speaker 14: You know, all of the companies here are building, just

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Speaker 14: making huge investments in the country in order to build

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Speaker 14: our data centers and infrastructure to power the next wave

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Speaker 14: of innovation. So it's you know, we don't often get

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Speaker 14: together as the CEOs of the different companies, but it's

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Speaker 14: it's good to see you.

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Speaker 15: How much are you spending the would you say over

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Speaker 15: the next few years?

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Speaker 14: Oh gosh, I mean, I think it's probably going to

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Speaker 14: be something like at least six hundred billion dollars through

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Speaker 14: twenty eight in the US.

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Speaker 16: Such that we could make a major investment in the

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Speaker 16: United States and have some key manufacturing advanced manufacturing here.

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Speaker 16: I think that says a lot about your focus and

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Speaker 16: your leadership and your focus on innovation. I also want

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Speaker 16: to thank you for helping American companies around the world.

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Speaker 16: This is a very key thing.

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Speaker 10: How much money will you be in this six hundred billion,

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Speaker 10: six hundred billion?

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Speaker 1: Very We're very proud to do it. That's great.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 17: Every day is a battle for your mind, raging information

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Speaker 17: coming from every angle, but the will to the sieve

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Speaker 17: fear not. You found the place for truth, the voice

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Speaker 17: of a generation that still has the will to believe

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Speaker 17: in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 1: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot. Here

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Speaker 1: we go on. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 15: As always, Charlie Kirk is on assignment. I as always,

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Speaker 15: am your faithful guest host. Honored to be with you

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Speaker 15: here at the bitcoining dot Com mobile studios. We have

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Speaker 15: so much to get to and by the way, tons

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Speaker 15: of news to get to. But first I can't wait

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Speaker 15: to talk to my first guest here, Joe Edlow, who

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Speaker 15: is the new director of US Citizenship and Immigration Services

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Speaker 15: for the Trump administration. And they have some breaking news

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Speaker 15: this morning that is just it almost sounds too good

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Speaker 15: to be true to my ears, but.

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Speaker 1: Breaking this morning.

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Speaker 15: This from the Wall Street Journal, agency that issues visas

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Speaker 15: and green cards is hiring armed agents and they're not

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Speaker 15: just going to be arresting immigrants who break the law.

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Speaker 15: They are going to be working on arresting the lawyers

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Speaker 15: that help them break the law. And I'm so excited

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Speaker 15: to talk with Director Edlow. Welcome to the show honored

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Speaker 15: to have you here. Please tell us about this breaking news.

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Speaker 18: Well, first of all, thanks so much for having me. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: we're really excited about this new opportunity. When I got confirmed,

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Speaker 18: I said that my mission here was to restore the

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Speaker 18: integrity the immigration system. One of the big problems with

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Speaker 18: the immigration system is the rampant fraud within that system.

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Speaker 18: We already have great officers that are trying to find

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Speaker 18: fraud and ferret it out. We have our fraud detection

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Speaker 18: National security officers right now. However, they can only take

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Speaker 18: a case so far without having to refer it to

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Speaker 18: forward for prosecution.

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Speaker 5: No longer.

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Speaker 18: Now USCIS has the ability to hire special agents and

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Speaker 18: investigative force that is going to go out there take

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Speaker 18: these cases to their natural conclusion, which is in these

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Speaker 18: cases of big, big types of fraud patterns, we're going

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: And the big thing here also when I was reading

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Speaker 15: through this piece, mister director, is that the focus is

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Speaker 15: not just on the immigrants, right. I Mean, there's a

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Speaker 15: and so you're constantly thinking, Okay, we're focused on getting

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Speaker 15: the illegals out of the country, but this is legal immigration.

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Speaker 15: So that's an important distinction here. And you are going

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Speaker 15: after the lawyers who are enabling so much of this fraud.

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Speaker 15: And it kind of struck me as you know, you

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Speaker 15: go after the abortionist rather than the woman that had

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Speaker 15: the abortion, You go after the drug cartel versus the

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Speaker 15: small level dealers. You can, in effect, by targeting the

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Speaker 1: Is that the strategy here, sir?

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Speaker 18: It is You've got plenty of cases where you've got

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Speaker 18: aliens who are committing fraud, a lot who are not

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Speaker 18: committing fraud, but those that are maybe they're doing it

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Speaker 18: just themselves. But where you've got large scale fraud fraud factories,

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Speaker 5: And that's what we're going to be doing. So absolutely, it's.

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Speaker 18: A bigger it's a bigger canvas that we're looking at

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Speaker 1: That's fantastic, dude.

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Speaker 15: So you know you're taking on a really big job,

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Speaker 15: a really important job, one that has not gotten nearly

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Speaker 1: I think attention is the illegal immigration thing.

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Speaker 15: I happen to be of the school thought that, yes,

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Speaker 15: we have a massive illegal immigration problem, but we have

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Speaker 15: a massive legal immigration problem in this country. People don't assimilate,

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Speaker 15: they don't love our country. We're not vetting for values

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Speaker 15: and ability to not go immediately on the government dole

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Speaker 15: when they get here.

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Speaker 1: As you have taken this job, I.

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Speaker 15: Mean grade the situation as you found it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how bad is it?

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Speaker 5: Grade it? It was an f when I found it.

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Speaker 18: The legal immigration system is critical to this country, but

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Speaker 18: it's got to work.

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Speaker 5: It can't work when it's overwhelmed.

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Speaker 18: And when the previous administration put all of its resources

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Speaker 5: To move to get into.

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Speaker 18: Random employment authorization cues, and ultimately nothing was going through

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Speaker 18: all the immigration attorneys that were filing legitimate forms. We're

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Speaker 5: It's left us with a complete mess. We need to

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Speaker 18: You mentioned those that are going on the government dime.

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Speaker 18: We just put out yesterday a memo making it abundantly

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Speaker 18: clear that we expect our officers when they are looking

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Speaker 18: them to deny these cases. Same with assimilation. Assimilation is critical,

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Speaker 18: and we are looking at ways to make the naturalization

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Speaker 18: test more in line with the congressional mandate as to

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Speaker 18: what it should be. We want to see a real

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Speaker 5: We want to be able to measure that.

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Speaker 18: We want to see real questions, that people understand the

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Speaker 18: civic responsibility that it means to become a United States citizen.

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Speaker 18: And more importantly, we want to see an actual understanding

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Speaker 18: a single sentence then.

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Speaker 15: A you are, I would get up and clap right

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Speaker 15: now if I could. I have some rapid fire questions

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Speaker 15: for you, director. How many people do we naturalize a year?

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Speaker 18: Roughly a little under a million per year, depending on

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Speaker 18: the the the EBB and flow.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how many was Joe Biden doing.

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Speaker 19: You know, I.

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Speaker 18: Couldn't tell you the actual numbers. I'll get that for you.

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Speaker 1: But they rushed it though. Right They were surging.

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Speaker 5: It was surging everything.

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Speaker 18: It was surging getting people employment authorization documents, it was

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Speaker 18: surging naturalization.

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Speaker 5: But more so, I don't care about the raw numbers.

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Speaker 5: What I care about here.

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Speaker 18: Is the fact that it was a get to yes mentality.

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Speaker 18: It was a rubber stamp for every one who filed

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Speaker 18: And frankly, I believe, and I've heard it anecdotally that

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Speaker 20: We're very grateful to be able to build our company here,

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Speaker 15: Charlie for Hillsdale dot Com. With me now is a

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Speaker 1: Kelly, reporter. William J. Kelly, Sir, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 15: You are at a critical, critical place in this country.

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Speaker 15: For so it feels like all roads lead to Chicago

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Speaker 1: We'll play that clip, David Axelrod.

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Speaker 15: You have people calling on the city to cooperate, but

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Speaker 15: in the Floor's yours, William J.

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Speaker 6: Kelly, Well, God bless your Andrew, and thank you for

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Speaker 6: having me. You're right. I mean, I've always felt that

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Speaker 6: Chicago is kind of ground zero, all the way back

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Speaker 6: to when I tried to warn some people about my

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Speaker 6: state Senator Barack Obama, you know, and I left Oh boy,

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Speaker 6: I can still hear the laughter. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 6: whether it's Barack Obama, rama Manuel, you know, and just

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Speaker 6: so you know, JB. Pritzker, Governor Pritzker has presidential ambitions

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Speaker 6: and everything he's doing right now, the only possible explanation

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Speaker 6: for it is that he thinks it's going to get

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Speaker 6: him the White House. So that because there's no other

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's no He's a very smart man, make

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Speaker 6: no mistake about it. He's a billionaire, and there's no

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Speaker 6: but there's no logical explanation for why you would have

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Speaker 6: a safety Act. For example, this is his signature legislation

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Speaker 6: that allows the most violent criminals out on no cash bail.

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Speaker 15: Well, yeah, I have to give you some some do

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Speaker 15: here William J. Kelly, and that is reporter Williamjkelly dot com.

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Speaker 1: Check him out.

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Speaker 15: This is a clip from you trying to get answers

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Speaker 15: about some of these very dangerous illegals that he seems

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Speaker 15: to not care about that are being released to harass, maime, kill, murder,

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Speaker 15: molest young kids. I mean, so many of these stories.

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Speaker 15: It's just terrible. Let's go ahead and play cut four fifteen.

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Speaker 7: Ice agents that are on the way and again, many

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Speaker 7: of the people who are coming seem to be coming

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Speaker 7: from Los Angeles and having been part of that raid.

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Speaker 7: So if you want to look at what it is

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Speaker 7: what they did in Los Angeles. Megaphones, microphones, go to

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Speaker 7: the ballot box. Those are all the things that I said,

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Speaker 7: let's be clear. And to the extent that people want

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Speaker 7: to protest, they have that First Amendment right to do so.

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Speaker 7: All I'm saying is I said back then, is that

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Speaker 6: Governor Prisker a very important question regarding the illegal alien

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Speaker 6: Jose Luis Mendoza Gonzalez that was released under your.

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Speaker 1: Just walks away.

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Speaker 15: I mean, these guys, so obviously he wants to run

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Speaker 15: for president. He's using this standoff with President Trump as

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Speaker 15: viewed as the fighter and his party that they are

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Speaker 15: so desperate to find. And yet it's pure callousness because

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Speaker 15: is going to backfire. Mind you but nevertheless, I want

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Speaker 15: the audience to fully inter it. He will not answer

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Speaker 15: your question about Jose Luis Mendoza Gonzalez. Who is this

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Speaker 6: Well, one of many. He's an illegal alien. He is

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Speaker 6: charged with concealing and abusing the corpse of an Illinois

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Speaker 6: mother of too god. Yeah, and he's still under investigation

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Speaker 6: for a variety of other things. But here's the thing

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Speaker 6: under Pritzker Safety Act, Jose Luis Mendoza Gonzalez, if that's

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Speaker 6: even his real name, nobody, how would we even know?

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Speaker 6: Right has been released. So, I mean, and this is

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Speaker 6: just one of many. You know, if you are a

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Speaker 6: If you've been elected to protect, which I think is

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Speaker 6: the number one responsibility of all elected to provide safety

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Speaker 6: if you've been charged with doing that, if you've been

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Speaker 6: be the number one priority, right, the only you know,

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Speaker 6: and then you know, whatever else you know with clean

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Speaker 6: But it seems like with our elected officials and of

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Speaker 6: course Mayor Johnson in Chicago that this is the least

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Speaker 6: by the way. And then of course the big migrant

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Speaker 1: Bankrupt did exactly well.

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Speaker 15: And there is five hundred thousand illegals in Chicago, is

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Speaker 5: Who knows.

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Speaker 6: Nobody knows. You know, we will find out when they vote, right.

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Speaker 15: That's an extraordinary high number of illegal immigrants to be

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Speaker 15: I mean, it's just an incredible burden to place on

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Speaker 15: native born citizens at an alarming clip. This is what

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Speaker 15: I also find interesting, though, you and I think this

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Speaker 15: is why it's a winning political issue for President Trump.

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Speaker 15: I mean, crime is like a ninety ten issue. It's

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Speaker 15: actually about a ninety nine to one issue. According to

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Speaker 15: some boles. People think it's either a serious problem in

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Speaker 15: ninety nine percent recent poll came out. But here's what's interesting.

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Speaker 15: Top national Democrats like Axelrod and Joe Scarborough are beginning

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Speaker 15: to break with the Illinois politicians. Let's go ahead and

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Speaker 15: play cut four twenty two. This is David Axelrod.

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Speaker 24: I would be careful about playing twenty eight politics on

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Speaker 24: this issue because the right answer is we'll take all

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Speaker 24: the help we can get as long as it's appropriate help,

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Speaker 24: as long as it's stuff that will really help. I mean,

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Speaker 24: as National guardsmen aren't even trained to do that work,

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Speaker 24: they're not authorized to do that work. So you know,

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Speaker 24: send us the resources that we need. We want to

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Speaker 24: work with you. If there are a criminal, if there

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Speaker 24: are people doing violent crimes here who are illegal immigrants,

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Speaker 24: we want them out of our city. We'll work with

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Speaker 24: you on that. I think that's the appropriate position to take.

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Speaker 15: Fair enough, Wow, shocking stuff from CNN, but he's not alone.

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Speaker 10: You know, I actually think that JB. Prinsker should do

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Speaker 10: something radical. I think you should pick up the phone,

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Speaker 10: call the president and say let's partner up. These are

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Speaker 10: the most dangerous parts of my state. We would love

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Speaker 10: to figure out how to have a partnership that's constitutedtional,

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Speaker 10: that respects the sort of balance of federalism between the

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Speaker 10: federal government and the state government. And let's work together

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Speaker 10: to save lives because right now, just hey, nothing to

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Speaker 10: see here, moving along, no problem here, Hey, Donald Trump,

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Speaker 10: we don't need you. And you know the mayor talking

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Speaker 10: about we're going to protect people's dignity in our city.

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Speaker 1: Well, protect their lives. That's protecting their dignity. Wow, William J. Kelly,

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Speaker 1: Does Chicago need federal help?

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Speaker 6: Well, they needed it for the DNC. If you recall

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Speaker 6: you were in town. I remember, Yeah, they had the

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Speaker 6: Democrat National Convention in Chicago. They had no trouble using

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Speaker 6: the National Guard to protect their donors and your JUNI number.

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Speaker 6: They had no trouble using the National Guards as their

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Speaker 6: as their valleys for their for their VIP donors, but

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Speaker 6: personal security. But as you know, the weekend violence continued

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Speaker 6: in Chicago with you know, twenty thirty, forty fifty in

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Speaker 6: some cases. You know there I remember weekends with eighty

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Speaker 6: people shot. You know, I mean, this is uh, this

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Speaker 6: is beyond third world. You know, you'd be safer in

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Speaker 6: you know, name pick a country, Haiti Somalia. I don't know,

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Speaker 6: you pick a country.

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Speaker 9: You know, the.

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Speaker 6: Every weekend the number of people shot and murdered, not

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Speaker 6: to mention assaulted. We have cases repeat offenders who are arrested,

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Speaker 6: let out of jail and then they immediately go right

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, that was a viral story this week,

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Speaker 15: and it's terrible. But you're you're you're zeroing in on

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Speaker 15: something really important. I want the audience to fully absorb this.

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Speaker 15: Most of the violent crime in this country, even most

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Speaker 15: of the petty crime, for that matter, is done by

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Speaker 15: a very small percentage of the population that is continually,

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Speaker 15: like a revolving door, released back onto the streets to mame, hurt,

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Speaker 15: kill and murder and rape. Okay, and this small group

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Speaker 15: could be permanently locked up, and you would see crime

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Speaker 15: fall like a rock.

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Speaker 1: You would see it plummet. Why is why.

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Speaker 15: Do democrats in the city of Chicago seem to love

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Speaker 15: crime so much?

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Speaker 1: William J. Kelly about thirty seconds.

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Speaker 6: Well, the really sad fact of the matter is that

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Speaker 6: that small group is growing because a lot of the

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Speaker 6: illegals are now strangling women in the street, just on

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Speaker 6: the sidewalk in the.

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Speaker 15: But but William, I was told that illegal immigrants commit

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Speaker 15: less crime than Americans.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, maybe that's because they're not being charged

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Speaker 6: and convicted. So of course, you know, statistics are funny things, right, Andrew.

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Speaker 1: M hm, Yeah, absolutely, William J.

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Speaker 15: Kelly, you are at a really important time in a

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Speaker 15: really important city, at a confluence of really powerful forces.

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Speaker 1: Please keep covering it. Tell people where they can follow

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Speaker 1: your work.

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Speaker 6: The floor is yours, Reporter, Williamjkelly dot com. Believe it

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Speaker 6: or not, I have a legal defense funder and go

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Speaker 6: fund me on that page. I've literally been threatened by

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Speaker 6: the mayor's office to have my credential, my media credential revolked.

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Speaker 6: I've had this before under lightfoot, So anyone who wants

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Speaker 6: to keep me in the in the press Reporter William J.

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Speaker 15: Kelly dot com, good for you, God bless you, brother.

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Speaker 15: Keep up the good work. Keep their holding their feet

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Speaker 15: to the fire. This is developing story. We're gonna keep

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Speaker 15: covering it, and we hope cooler heads will prevail.

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Speaker 17: We'll be right back, relentless in spirit. You're listening to

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Speaker 17: the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 19: You guys know how it works open Mike. We're gonna

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Speaker 19: be here for a couple hours, so get comfortable, so

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Speaker 19: you would get rid of all borders. Yes, what species

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Speaker 19: is the baby.

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Speaker 1: In the womb? It's a human, but therefore I have

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Speaker 1: human rights. No, it's a liar.

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Speaker 19: You're a typical leftis because you only care about yourself,

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Speaker 19: not about the other people. It's very clear it's by

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Speaker 19: how you're acting. What can I do to save the country?

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Speaker 19: Do you answer that question?

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Speaker 23: Every single day?

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Speaker 19: You are doing something that is bigger than you.

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Speaker 11: A lot of people.

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Speaker 9: I'm gonna like a run. Wait, you'll turn it back

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Speaker 9: up and cut the race. I do not care with

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Speaker 9: the to say listen that you did not come to play.

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Speaker 9: We about to take it to hog Heights. We's waiting

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Speaker 9: woe you Ye, it's to take as a ton of

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Speaker 9: a new and I'm about to show them that they

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Speaker 9: can not you can when you want, when they get

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Speaker 9: from loss.

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Speaker 1: We came from the bottom and the loss.

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Speaker 25: To Michu.

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Speaker 5: I know what we need.

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Speaker 21: Choose if you keep.

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Speaker 5: It to you got at the news man.

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Speaker 15: I'm getting pumped already just watching those videos. The tour

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Speaker 15: starts next week in Utah. The Utah press is already

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Speaker 15: freaking out something something that's not quite right in Utah, folks,

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Speaker 15: we love Mike Lee, we love our Mormon friends up

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Speaker 15: in Utah.

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Speaker 1: We love big families.

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Speaker 15: But something under the surface is something's awry, something's a

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Speaker 15: miss in Utah.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna sniff it out. I think it's really important

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Speaker 1: that Charlie is going there.

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Speaker 15: I also want to present the Amfest promo to you

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Speaker 15: guys coming up in December.

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Speaker 1: It's not too early to get your tickets. Let's ahead

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Speaker 1: and play that clip.

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Speaker 19: America Fest is the starting point for us to take

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Speaker 19: America to greater heights in twenty twenty five. We have

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Speaker 1: Experience the greatest celebration of America.

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Speaker 11: Grant Cardon, Rob Schneider, Matt Walsh, Michael Knowles, Glenn Beck,

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Speaker 11: Riley Gaines, Todd Chris Lee, Savannah Chris Lee, and more.

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Speaker 11: December eighteenth to twenty first, in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 5: The movement meets here.

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Speaker 15: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Final

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Speaker 15: segment of our one, Never Fear. Charlie is going to

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Speaker 15: be back in our two. It's part two of his

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Speaker 15: interview with Freebeacon reporter Aaron Sebarium. And that was a

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Speaker 15: fantastic conversation. I watched it when it happened live, and

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Speaker 15: it was just really really compelling stuff with the Yale

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Speaker 15: got sort of radicalized by our IVY leagues, which is,

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Speaker 15: of course, you know, typical typical. It's actually I wish

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Speaker 15: it was more typical, because the IVY leagues will radicalize

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Speaker 15: you if you have half a brain, because those people

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Speaker 15: are complete. They've lost the plot. They've lost the plot.

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Speaker 15: I want to bring up a story speaking of losing

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Speaker 15: the plot. And we started the whole hour with immigration.

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Speaker 15: Fantastic conversation. If you didn't get it, please get the

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Speaker 15: podcast with the guy that's responsible for issuing all our

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Speaker 15: visas and green cards and citizenship in the country.

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Speaker 1: But there's a new piece of news that just broke

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Speaker 1: this morning.

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Speaker 15: And it goes like this, President Trump is considering a

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Speaker 15: proposal to block us IT companies from outsourcing their work

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Speaker 15: to Indian companies, a move that could quote unquote wreck

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Speaker 15: Indian IT sector and costs millions of jobs. Now, let

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Speaker 15: me explain why I love this. This is part of

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Speaker 15: restoring the compact that the American government should have with

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Speaker 15: the American citizen. We have outsourced our jobs overseas. We've

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Speaker 15: outsourced our car manufacturing facilities. We've outsourced the ability to

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Speaker 15: make vitamin C to China. Anything where you make something

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Speaker 15: has been outsourced.

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Speaker 1: But guess what.

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Speaker 15: It wasn't just making hard things that has been outsourced.

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Speaker 15: It's been services, It's been tech services. It's been white

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Speaker 15: collar jobs that are getting outsourced. And why because companies

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Speaker 15: that are making billions and billions of dollars, that have

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Speaker 15: market caps and the trillions, have decided.

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Speaker 1: That it's worth more compliant labor. It costs them less.

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Speaker 15: They're going to make a few extra bucks, just a

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Speaker 15: few marginal difference rate to return to ship your job overseas.

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Speaker 1: Now let's remember what's actually going on.

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Speaker 15: And now, I'm a free market guy, but within reason

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Speaker 15: and regulations can be powerful and they can be effective.

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Speaker 15: Tariffs can be powerful and effective when properly utilized. If

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Speaker 15: you are a company that is benefiting from the United States,

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Speaker 15: are on paralleled capital markets, our rule of law, equal

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Speaker 15: protection under that law, a stability, a talented workforce, innovation,

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Speaker 15: a history of pioneering not only the West, but technology

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Speaker 15: landing on the moon, all.

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Speaker 1: Of these things.

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Speaker 15: If you are going to be a company that benefits

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Speaker 15: by being birthed and seeded out of this country, then

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Speaker 15: you have a moral obligation, as one of the elites,

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Speaker 15: one of the moneyed gentry class, to reinvest your wealth,

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Speaker 15: your success in the human capital of this country.

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Speaker 1: And if you choose not.

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Speaker 15: To tariff, we are going to make it so expensive

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Speaker 15: on you. If you are a company that's trying to

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Speaker 15: make a literally like marginal more money out of this

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Speaker 15: so that we can talk to a tech worker in India,

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Speaker 15: if that is your company, you have a moral obligation

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Speaker 15: like those in the Gilded Age that reinvest did their

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Speaker 15: great wealth that they accumulated off the backs of this country,

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Speaker 15: off the backs of the labor class.

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Speaker 1: If that is you, you have.

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Speaker 15: A responsibility to reinvest in this country.

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Speaker 1: I love this. I love this so much.

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Speaker 15: And while we're at it, it is time to reform

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Speaker 15: and possibly abolish the H one B visa scam. There's

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Speaker 15: about four hundred thousand visas that are given out as

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Speaker 15: part of the H one B scam every year, and

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Speaker 15: seventy five percent of those are consumed by one country,

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Speaker 15: and that's India. Now, God bless them. A lot of

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Speaker 15: them are great workers, they're kind people. But what we

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Speaker 15: are seeing in towns like Frisco, Texas. I was just

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Speaker 15: in Frisco. You go to them all there and it's

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Speaker 15: all Indians. That is a city that has been completely

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Speaker 15: demographically changed overnight.

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Speaker 1: And why H one B tech workers?

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Speaker 15: They're not always you know, people that are better at

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Speaker 15: the job than Americans, but they're more compliant. They'll work

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Speaker 15: for free or well close, they'll work for less. And

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Speaker 15: all they want is to be able to come over

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Speaker 15: here because India has got billions of people. It's a

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Speaker 15: crazy place. You can get ahead here more. I understand

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Speaker 15: why they want to come, but I understand why the base,

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Speaker 15: why the Trump voter, wants to protect American jobs. We

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Speaker 15: do not want American workers having to train their replacements

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Speaker 15: that come from India on an H one B. So

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Speaker 15: all of this is very very good, and I'm telling

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Speaker 15: you the elephant in the room is not a legal immigration.

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Speaker 1: We're getting our handle on that.

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Speaker 15: We got to get our deportations up certainly, and self

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Speaker 15: deportations are going strong.

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Speaker 1: What we gotta do is we got to fix legal

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Speaker 1: immigration in this country.

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Speaker 15: That's why I'm so glad to have that first conversation

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Speaker 15: at the top of the show.

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Speaker 1: So go back and watch it.

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Speaker 15: Our two with Charlie, Part two of his conversation with

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Speaker 22: Senate Finance Committee.

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Speaker 21: While while answering.

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Speaker 22: Some tough questions from both Democrats and Republicans on the panel,

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Speaker 22: many of the interactions devolved into some pretty combativeness between

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Speaker 22: the Secretary and the Democrat senators in particular.

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Speaker 19: Everybody is grub but you Is that what we're looking at.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 17: And I think what you're talking about, well, I think

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Speaker 17: you do it.

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Speaker 5: All I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. Is every time

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Speaker 1: anyone you saying what you, saying the.

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Speaker 24: Pharmaceutical industry was supporting my presidential I don't think.

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Speaker 22: Oh RFK Junior was specifically called to task over his

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Speaker 22: moves the limit vaccine access and research. He was also

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Speaker 22: criticized for the recent firing of the director of the

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Speaker 22: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The US attorney for

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Speaker 22: Mayor Muriel Bowser just a little while ago to take

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Speaker 22: a bit of a victory lap. The two held a

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Speaker 22: news conference to report the arrest of two seventeen.

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Speaker 21: Year olds who were accused in the shooting.

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Speaker 22: Death of twenty one year old Eric Jackham. The UMass

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Speaker 22: Amherst student, was interning in the nation's capital on June

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Speaker 22: thirtieth when.

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Speaker 21: He was killed.

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Speaker 22: Investigators say he was an innocent bystander caught in the

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Speaker 22: crossfire as at least seventy nine rounds were fired.

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Speaker 26: Why the President has vowed to make DC safe and beautiful.

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Speaker 26: This is why the nation's president. The President is bringing

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Speaker 26: together federal and local agencies to bring the force of

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Speaker 26: the government against those who seek to destroy not only

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Speaker 26: our quality of life, but our lives.

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Speaker 22: The third suspect is still being sought in the case.

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Speaker 22: The two teenagers who are in custody are charged as adults.

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Speaker 22: Today's news conference comes on the heels of DC's Attorney

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Speaker 22: General filing suit on Thursday to in the Trump administration's

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Speaker 22: deployment of National Guard troops in the nation's capital. The

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Speaker 22: AG calls it an unlawful occupation. Over at the White House,

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Speaker 22: President Trump set to sign an executive order today. The

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Speaker 22: EO will reportedly be to rename the Department of Defense

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Speaker 22: the Department of War. As such, Secretary of Defense Pete

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Speaker 22: Hegseth would also be able to use the title Secretary

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Speaker 22: of War an official correspondence in public communication, change the

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Speaker 22: name of a government department is rare, and it generally

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Speaker 22: requires congressional approval. By the way, the Department of Defense

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Speaker 22: was named the War Department until nineteen forty nine, when

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Speaker 22: Congress consolidated the Army, Navy, and Air Force following World

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Speaker 22: War II. The move comes as President Trump seeks to

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Speaker 22: end several wars and conflicts across the globe. Following today's

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Speaker 22: executive order signing, the Commander in Chief also has an

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Speaker 22: announcement scheduled.

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Speaker 21: We're still working to find out what that announcement might entail.

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Speaker 22: Happening today, Texas Governor Greg Abbott will sign several bills

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Speaker 22: aimed at preventing tragedies similar to the deadly flooding that

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Speaker 22: killed twenty seven campers and councilors at Camp Mystic back

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Speaker 22: in July. Some of the parents and family members of

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Speaker 22: the girls who died that day will join the governor

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Speaker 22: for today's signing ceremony.

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Speaker 21: In all, one hundred and thirty six people were killed

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Speaker 21: in the flooding.

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Speaker 22: The new measures will improve the safety of children's camps

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Speaker 22: across Texas by prohibiting cabins from being in dangerous parts

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Speaker 22: of flood zones. Operators will also be required to develop

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Speaker 22: emergency plans. That's a quick check of your headlines.

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Speaker 19: Okay, another huge thank you to Andrew for hosting yesterday

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Speaker 19: and today while I travel. I'm back with the second

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Speaker 19: half of our interview with Aaron Sibarium, investigative journalist for

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Speaker 19: the last hour of the show this week. The full

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Speaker 19: interview is on the podcast already, but in the second

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Speaker 19: half we continue discussing some of his biggest stories and

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Speaker 19: the most shocking things is uncovered.

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Speaker 25: Some of the pushback I got on the piece about

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Speaker 25: racial preferences was you don't understand they made these changes

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Speaker 25: to their curriculum and they had a little less time

958
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Speaker 25: in class, so maybe that's why the performance went down.

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Speaker 25: But it's not about the racial preferences. Okay, it's about

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Speaker 25: the curriculum. Well, what did they do the curriculum. They

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Speaker 25: took time away from hard sciences to teach them this

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Speaker 25: progressive science.

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Speaker 1: It is literally like.

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Speaker 2: It's not a good defense that they shouldn't have done that.

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Speaker 1: Again, we can make fun of it.

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Speaker 19: We should godfrid peeps, someone's gonna die because of this,

967
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Speaker 19: and people die all the time. In her general asesia

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Speaker 19: again anethesiology wanted someoneho's gone under antheology a couple of times,

969
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Speaker 19: like it's no joke. In the antithesiology department where Lucero

970
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 19: or Lucero helps rank applicants to the department's residency program,

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Speaker 19: She's rebuffed calls to blind the race of candidates, telling

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Speaker 19: colleagues in January twenty three email that despite California's ban

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Speaker 19: on racial preferences, quote, we are not required to blind

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Speaker 19: any information.

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Speaker 1: So this is a great case.

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Speaker 19: For Harmeat Dylan to come swooping in from the US Officer.

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Speaker 2: Of the lasts, right, And I believe they're already looking

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Speaker 2: into it.

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Speaker 21: Yeah.

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Speaker 25: I think it's HHS's Office Civil Rights, so that's looking

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Speaker 25: into it. But HHS has opened an investigation. And there

982
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Speaker 25: was also a law suit from students referred missions and

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Speaker 25: not just the same group that did the Harvard lass suit.

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Speaker 19: She said here, you're right, knocked down a white person

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Speaker 19: and said quote, U white male may be knocked down

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Speaker 19: several spots because quote we have too many of his kind.

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Speaker 25: Right, not not a not a right.

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Speaker 1: It's not Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 25: Now, yeah, it's comment. It's not a comment you could

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Speaker 25: imagine being said about any other.

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Speaker 1: Group, nor should it be said about any No, of course,

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Speaker 1: of course, of course. She told doctors who is this person? Again?

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Speaker 1: I got to reread this.

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Speaker 2: She's the head of admissions the whole delightful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Is she still there?

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Speaker 27: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I believe so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Nice.

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Speaker 19: She told doctors who voiced concern that they had no

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Speaker 19: right to be hadn opinion because they were not bipock.

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Speaker 19: For people listening on radio podcasting, that is not a

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Speaker 19: Star Wars character.

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Speaker 1: What is bypock?

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Speaker 2: It stands for black indigenous and other people of.

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Speaker 1: People of color. Yeah.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, so let's say you're a forty five year old.

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Speaker 19: You know, for forty five year old, you've been there

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Speaker 19: forty five years as a doctor award winning saved lives.

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Speaker 1: You don't have an opinion because you might be a

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Speaker 1: white man.

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Speaker 19: That's according to the admission, the admissions directly, that's what

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Speaker 19: she's saying. Yeah, honestly, this is like real life horrifying

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Speaker 19: if people have to get medical care in the UCLA system.

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Speaker 19: The focus on racial diversity has coincided with theramatic shift

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Speaker 19: in racial and ethnic composition in medical school, where the

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Speaker 19: number of Asian matriculens fell by almost a third by

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Speaker 19: twenty nineteen twenty twenty two. According to public avaiable data,

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Speaker 19: No other elite medical school in California saw a similar decline.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's true.

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Speaker 25: There maybe there was one that you know, saw some

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Speaker 25: kind of cross but I think I think most of

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Speaker 25: the I think it was really when I double checked

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Speaker 25: the data, it was quite noticeable how much UCLA.

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Speaker 19: But so, like, I mean, I need to just voice this.

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Speaker 19: If we're also afraid of being called a racist, is

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Speaker 19: it conceivable that just a again this says a third to

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Speaker 19: half of the medical school. This is a professor that

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Speaker 19: told you is incredibly unqualified. Is it possible that just

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Speaker 19: a super unqualified doctor slipping through the cracks, that's like

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Speaker 19: a black woman, and eventually she's going to have to

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Speaker 19: make life decisions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where we're heading.

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Speaker 19: Like we're all afraid to say anything because she might

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Speaker 19: report you to the Yeah.

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Speaker 25: I mean, look and the way and I would say too,

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Speaker 25: you know. The way also to avoid having a if

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Speaker 25: there's a you know, qualified black female doctor, the way

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Speaker 25: to avoid people questioning her qualifications, and the way to

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Speaker 25: avoid sort of placing her under this constant cloud of

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Speaker 25: suspicion is to stop doing racial preferences that sort of

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Speaker 25: rationalize the suspicion, right, Like, I mean, you know, I

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Speaker 25: feel bad for anyone who gets into UCLA who who

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Speaker 25: really is very good totally agree, you know, gets relating, right,

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Speaker 25: I mean, if you're a super qualified blackout think now

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Speaker 25: people are going to wonder, you know, and that that's

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Speaker 25: not right.

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Speaker 19: So now going to the other coast, you, my friend,

1048
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Speaker 19: have been like a ninja towards Harvard, and I love it.

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Speaker 1: So let's start with.

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Speaker 19: Let's start with this one, because this one's a little

1051
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Speaker 19: bit more is older, I think, Yeah, I am right.

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Speaker 19: Harvard president Claudine Gay hit with six new charges of plagiarism.

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Speaker 1: So you were one of the.

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Speaker 19: Ones that took down Claudine Gay in addition to a

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Speaker 19: leastophonic and her wonderful performance. How does a Harvard University

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Speaker 19: president plagiarize herself to the top.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean so, look what she did was clearly

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Speaker 25: covered by Harvard's plagiarism policies, which were written in a

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Speaker 25: very exacting way.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 25: I don't know, you know what you were told growing up,

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Speaker 25: but I always had sort of the fear of God

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Speaker 25: put into me when it came to plagiaris in high

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Speaker 25: school and then in college, they really would say, just

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Speaker 25: you know, if it's more than a few words right

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Speaker 25: that you know, even if it's not verbatim, but it's paraphrase,

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Speaker 25: that could be plagiarism. And that's a very serious offense.

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Speaker 25: And so I would in college read over my papers

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Speaker 25: and think it plagiarize. It's I have to make sure

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Speaker 25: I'm changing enough of the language. I have to be

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Speaker 25: sure I'm putting it in my own words. Everything cited.

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Speaker 25: And look, of all the plagiarism scandals there have been,

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Speaker 25: hers was not the worst, but she was probably in

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Speaker 25: the not the worst in terms of the severity of

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Speaker 25: the plagiarism, but it was plagiarism. It did violate Harvard's policies.

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Speaker 25: And she was the president of Harvard University, right, and

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Speaker 25: so subject I think presumably to kind of the highest

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Speaker 25: possible standard for academic integrity.

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Speaker 19: And she she oversaw an institution that then you have

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Speaker 19: internal documents reveal pervasive because she's gone now reversal reveal

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Speaker 19: pervasive pattern of racial discrimination at Harvard Law Review.

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Speaker 1: Yes, what's going on here?

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Speaker 25: Yeah, So some of the discrimination come is in the

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Speaker 25: selection of editors for the Law Review, but the lion's

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Speaker 25: share of it is in the selection of articles. This

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Speaker 25: is important, right, I mean those are you know, the

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Speaker 25: Harvard Law Review is influential. It matters who's published there.

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Speaker 25: The Law Review articles really do shape the state of

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Speaker 25: the law to some extent. Right, you know, how how

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Speaker 25: important the glacademia is can be debated, but to the

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Speaker 25: exten it matters. This is a pretty powerful journal, right,

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Speaker 25: It matters what they publish, and they are not selecting

1093
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 25: articles just based on merit or subject matter diversity, but

1094
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Speaker 25: explicitly based on both the author's race and in many

1095
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Speaker 25: cases the race of the authors cited in the footnotes.

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Speaker 25: No yes, and that was in fact part of their

1097
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Speaker 25: grubric for evaluating.

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Speaker 19: To get published in the Harvard Law Review, you have

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Speaker 19: to have like half of your authors.

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Speaker 25: Be basically basically, there's this initial well, and so here's

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Speaker 25: the thing, right, And this often is the case with

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Speaker 25: any kind of regime of racial preferences. It doesn't just

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Speaker 25: happen at one kind of stage or decision making. It

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Speaker 25: happens at every stage. So there's an initial kind of

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Speaker 25: screen out process where they're told to consider author diversity,

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Speaker 25: and that process, which is done by just a few editors,

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Speaker 25: weeds out like eighty percent of submissions, and then there

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Speaker 25: then everything that remains is subject to this additional screen

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Speaker 25: where the you know, some editor reads it and kind

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Speaker 25: template that they're supposed to fill out about the pros

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Speaker 25: and cons of each article. And one of the things

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Speaker 25: they are supposed to look at, or at least they

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Speaker 25: were as of a year ago, was the racial diversity

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Speaker 25: of the sources cited, racial, gender, all kinds of diversity.

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Speaker 19: What what if you have a really good citation from

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Speaker 19: a white man, You're not you're at your quota.

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Speaker 25: That yeah, I mean they literally and they they would

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Speaker 25: literally say things like they would literally say things like,

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Speaker 25: I'm very you know, I'm disappointed that the piece didn't

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Speaker 25: have much diversity in terms of its sources cited. That

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Speaker 25: was a real negative, and they would give it a

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Speaker 25: a poor recommendation based in part on that lack of diversity.

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Speaker 25: I mean, you can we published over twenty three hundred

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Speaker 25: pages of documents of these internal memos, so people can

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Speaker 25: judge for themselves and you can just see what they said.

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Speaker 25: And in some cases it's kind of an afterthought or

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Speaker 25: they don't really take it into account. But there are

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Speaker 25: quite a few cases where the editors explicitly penalized pieces

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Speaker 25: for the diversity of the citations.

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Speaker 1: How did you find out about this one?

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Speaker 9: You know?

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Speaker 25: I got a tip from someone who show remain nameless

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Speaker 25: that it was going on at the Harvard Law Review,

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Speaker 25: and then started doing some digging and managed to get

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Speaker 25: my hands on a lot of these documents. One thing

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Speaker 25: I generally like to do in my reporting is to

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Speaker 25: publish as many primary source documents as possible because often

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Speaker 25: right the immediate response is, oh, you're making it up

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Speaker 25: or you're exaggerating, and I just look. You can look

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Speaker 25: at the entire trans of documents, right, you know, you

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Speaker 25: judge for yourself.

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Speaker 28: More with Aaron when we come back, learn more in

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Speaker 28: three hours than four years at a woke university.

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Speaker 1: And it's free. It's a Charlie Kirkshaw.

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Speaker 19: We're gonna be here for a couple hours, so get comfortable,

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Speaker 19: so you would get rid of all borders.

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Speaker 1: Yes, what species is the baby in the womb? It's

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Speaker 1: a human, therefore they.

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Speaker 9: Should have human rights.

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Speaker 19: No, a liar, You're a typical left this because you

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Speaker 19: only care about yourself, not about the other people. It's

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Speaker 19: very clear by how you're acting. What can I do

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Speaker 19: to save the country? You answer that question every single day.

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Speaker 19: You are doing something that is bigger than you.

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Speaker 6: A lot of.

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Speaker 9: People I'm gonna like a wait you'll try to back

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Speaker 9: till you pay.

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Speaker 1: But let's sake, it's a hog heights.

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Speaker 9: Please wait the whe't I go back to take us

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Speaker 9: a ton of a new about to show them? Then

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Speaker 1: When they from.

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Speaker 9: We came from the bottom, and now we the boss

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Speaker 9: do what we need to do.

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Speaker 19: If we're back, email me your thoughts freedom at charliekirk

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Speaker 19: dot com. Let me know your thoughts on this interview

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Speaker 19: is the Charlie Kirkshow podcast page. And so the The

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Speaker 19: Harvard Law Review is an independent, nonprop and legally distinct

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Speaker 19: from the university. It operates out of a Harvard building.

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Speaker 19: It's tended by Harvard janitors and employees only Harvard students

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Speaker 19: and editors. It's also advised by administrators professors at Harvard

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Speaker 19: Law School, including the dean, and some student editors are

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Speaker 19: on federal financial aid.

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Speaker 1: And so someone is planning to sue over this, is

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Speaker 1: that right?

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Speaker 21: Yes?

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Speaker 25: So Jonathan Mitchell, who's the former Solicitor General of Texas.

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Speaker 1: Off.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, he's planning to sue. But they're also now sub

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Speaker 25: under three different federal investigations by the Department of Education,

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Speaker 25: the Department of Health and Human Services, and the Justice Department.

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Speaker 25: And obviously the deal that the administration is trying to

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Speaker 25: reach with Harvard could resolve those investigations.

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Speaker 1: We'll see.

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Speaker 25: I mean, I don't know, but until that deal happens,

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Speaker 25: at least you know they are under multiple federal probes.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, So what is your instinct? Do you think this

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Speaker 19: is just the tip of the iceberg at some of

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Speaker 19: these elite schools. I mean, it's there's so much worse

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Speaker 19: stuff that's going on than we don't know about.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I generally think that's right. Now, again, some of

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Speaker 25: them are probably trying to course correct a little bit

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Speaker 25: just because they're so scared of Trump. But I think

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Speaker 25: that I don't think this is particularly aberrational. How much

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Speaker 25: of it is put in writing, They vary dependent on

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Speaker 25: the institution. But again, like I said earlier, there's Red

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Speaker 25: States state schools. You can find tons of this stuff

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Speaker 25: in kind of every in every part of university decision.

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Speaker 19: Making, and you're reporting so good. I mean, this you

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Speaker 19: got a slack message in here. That's like, that's the

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Speaker 19: best because that's really a window. Yeah, this is so good.

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Speaker 19: Four out of five people raised in this message, so message,

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Speaker 19: I'm guessing this is a.

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Speaker 1: Communica.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, they're they're debating who to publish like a four

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Speaker 25: up or something.

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Speaker 19: Four out of five people raised in this message are

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Speaker 19: white men, which I find concerning. One editor wrote and slack,

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Speaker 19: this is an editor of the Law Review. Before you

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Speaker 19: go into it, what does it take to become an

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Speaker 19: editor of the Law Review.

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Speaker 25: Well, a few people get on just through the strength

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Speaker 25: of their grades or this kind of competition they do, right,

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Speaker 25: if they're really really strong students writers. Most people are

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Speaker 25: chosen through the or about half of them are chosen

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Speaker 25: through this sort of holistic review process that takes into

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Speaker 25: account their grades, this kind of writing competition, and then

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Speaker 25: also their personal statement and kind of DEI factors.

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Speaker 1: Says quote.

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Speaker 19: Having read the article pretty thoroughly, I think a huge

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Speaker 19: missing piece was that of how race fits into policing

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Speaker 19: and misconduct.

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Speaker 2: Right and keep going.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, well, this is another important point, which is that

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Speaker 25: they don't just screen the articles based on the race

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Speaker 25: of the author or even the race of the sources cited.

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Speaker 25: They also look at just does the article talk enough

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Speaker 25: about race and gender? So my favorite one actually is

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Speaker 25: they this isn't another article I wrote about this? They

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Speaker 25: mixed I think an article that was a feminist analysis

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Speaker 25: of anti trust law that sounds as woke becaus it

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Speaker 25: can get right, feminist analysis of anti trust law.

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Speaker 2: Why did they nix it?

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Speaker 25: Well because it advanced a binaristic conception of gender and

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Speaker 25: didn't talk enough about the experiences of trans and non

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Speaker 25: binary people.

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Speaker 2: And they put this in writing, right, I mean.

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Speaker 25: And it's antitrust law, yes, and it's and this is

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Speaker 25: just yeah, you can't make it.

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Speaker 1: This is a false civilization.

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Speaker 19: By the way, why should we even take seriously a

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Speaker 19: feminist analysis of anti trust law? How about this analysis

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Speaker 19: of anti trust law? It doesn't matter right right?

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Speaker 17: Right?

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Speaker 25: Well now, yeah, I mean, feminist analysis of anti trust

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Speaker 25: law is almost going to be like the conservative position

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Speaker 25: in ten years.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was going to say, yeah, well, I said.

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Speaker 19: In a separate exchange, an editor implied that a piece

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Speaker 19: should be subject to expedited review because the author was

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Speaker 19: a minority. This person of color author, the editor wrote,

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Speaker 19: and slack, adding that the scholar had already had a

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Speaker 19: publication offer from Northwestern. We should send for review tonight

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Speaker 19: if we want to move on this, so you get

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Speaker 19: elevated and fast tracked if you're a person of color.

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Speaker 25: Yes, And in fact, in some of these memos they

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Speaker 25: explicitly say recommend publishing scholars because they say by being

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Speaker 25: published in the Harvard Law Review they will advance their career.

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Speaker 25: So they basically say we should publish so and so

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Speaker 25: because by doing so, we will advance the career of

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Speaker 25: a young scholar of color. That's part of their calculus

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Speaker 25: when deciding me to publish.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's remarkable.

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Speaker 19: And the Law Review you write has also adopted several policies,

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Speaker 19: while not racially discriminatory, seem designed to ensure editors to

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Speaker 19: the party line.

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Speaker 1: When resolution passed in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 19: Three called for quote indigenous inclusive citation practice as you

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Speaker 19: mentioned this, So just so we're clear, I don't know

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Speaker 19: what that means. Indigenous inclusive citation practices. So we need

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Speaker 19: like more Iroquois Indians or something.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, it to be fair to them. I think it

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Speaker 25: has something to do with how you cite cases involving

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Speaker 25: tribal law or native. I mean, you know, there might

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Speaker 25: be something legitimate there, but they obviously package it in

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Speaker 25: the most world. Well, they've lost all credibility. Yeah, I

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Speaker 25: know that might be right. I'm not inclined to I

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Speaker 25: don't think they haven't benefit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 22: Terrence Bates, the US attorney for the District of Columbia's

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Speaker 22: teaming up at the city's Democrat mayor, Muriel Bowser. All

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Speaker 22: of this happened just a little while ago. The two

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Speaker 22: got together to take a bit of a victory. Lab

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Speaker 22: They held a news conference to report the arrest of

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Speaker 22: two seventeen year olds accused in the shooting death of

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Speaker 22: twenty one year old Eric Jackham, the UMass Amherst student

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Speaker 22: was interning in the nation's capitol back on June thirtieth.

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Speaker 22: Investigators say he was an innocent bystander who was caught

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Speaker 22: in the crossfire as at least seventy nine rounds were fired.

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Speaker 22: While a third suspect is still being sought in this case,

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Speaker 22: the two teenagers who are in custody or charged as adults.

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Speaker 22: Today's news conference comes on the heels of DC's Attorney

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Speaker 22: General filing suit on Thursday to end the Trump administration's

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Speaker 22: deployment of National Guard troops in the nation's capital. The

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Speaker 22: AG calls it an unlawful occupation. The latest jobs report

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Speaker 22: is out and unemployment is up slightly. A look inside

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Speaker 22: the number shows that twenty two thousand jobs were added

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Speaker 22: to the economy last month, which is way down from

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Speaker 22: the seventy nine thousand jobs that were forecast, and while

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Speaker 22: unemployment is now up to four point three percent, it's

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Speaker 22: still at a historically low level. Outside the White House,

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Speaker 22: President Trump's top secretaries and advisors asked about that report.

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Speaker 23: All the indicators that we're seeing are that place. It

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Speaker 23: is low, and economic growth is solid. Income growth solid

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Speaker 23: as well, So that the only part of the data

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Speaker 23: that's disappointing is that the jobs numbers have bet a

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Speaker 23: little bit lower over the last three or four months.

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Speaker 23: The unemployment rates have ticked up a little bit. But

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Speaker 23: you know, right now, we're highly confident with the trends

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Speaker 23: that data. Board workers are replacing the illegal workers that

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Speaker 23: are either now not new coming to the country or

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Speaker 23: going back to their homes.

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Speaker 22: Also happening at the White House today, President Trump set

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Speaker 22: to sign another executive order. This EO will reportedly be

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Speaker 22: to rename the Department of Defense the Department of War.

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Speaker 22: As such, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth would also be

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Speaker 22: correspondence excuse me as well as public communication. Changing the

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Speaker 19: I want to close with some time, and we have

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Speaker 19: a little bit of time here because you know, we're

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Speaker 19: talking about university is talking about you're reporting and President

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Speaker 19: Trump is certainly clamping down on them. And a lot

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Speaker 19: of the activity happening on campuses that gets the headlines

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01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 19: is this jew hate stuff, the anti Israel stuff. And

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Speaker 19: there's been a debate on the right of what should

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Speaker 19: we do to respond to this campus activity, and it's

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Speaker 19: quite split.

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Speaker 1: It's all over the map.

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Speaker 19: As you know, I resolutely reject all this jew hate stuff,

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Speaker 19: and I want to talk about that, you know, but

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Speaker 19: I think, actually, more interestingly, let's make this a starting point.

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Speaker 1: There are some, not all.

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Speaker 19: There are some in the Jewish community of whom I

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Speaker 19: respect them greatly, but I fundamentally disagree. They say now

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Speaker 19: is the time for a Jewish civil rights where we

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Speaker 19: need kind of a new DEI style regime. People like

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Speaker 19: Jonathan Greenblatt, who I don't love obviously or respect, he's

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Speaker 19: kind of come out and said something similar, What what

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Speaker 19: do you what are you thinking about this while balancing

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Speaker 19: the disturbing rise of anti Semitism with constitutionally protected speech.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I don't think it makes any sense to try

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Speaker 25: to add Jews to the list of to kind of

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Speaker 25: bring Jews under Dei's protective umbrella. I think that's going

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Speaker 25: to backfire for lots of reasons. I mean, one is

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Speaker 25: just Dei's the worldview is bad on the merits and

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Speaker 25: should be rejected, right, and we don't want to reinforce

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Speaker 25: its premises, you know. I also think they're frankly, is

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Speaker 25: a dynamic where, especially for people on the right, it's

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Speaker 25: very important, I think, to be consistent about this stuff.

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Speaker 25: And when you're not and you're hypocritical, people see the hypocrisy.

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Speaker 25: And while I don't think that the hypocrisy is like

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Speaker 25: the main or it's not why anti Semitism is rising,

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Speaker 25: but it's not helping, Like it's not helping.

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Speaker 2: I guess I would say.

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Speaker 25: And you know, look, the other thing I would say too,

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Speaker 25: is just this is not This is not effective. I mean,

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Speaker 25: this is not how you get rid of the problem.

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Speaker 25: The way you get rid of the problem is by

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Speaker 25: admitting students who actually want to study and are not

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Speaker 25: scholar activists who are going to go out and take

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Speaker 25: over public spaces and violate laws, right instead of just

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Speaker 25: going to class. I mean, it's really an admissions problem, it.

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Speaker 1: Is, and it's an Islamist problem.

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Speaker 19: So some people are saying though that, hey, we need

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Speaker 19: to some people in the government have alluded to this,

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Speaker 19: not President Trump, but we need to make anti Semitism

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Speaker 19: like illegal basically, and I'm paraphrasing, but you've seen that

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Speaker 19: kind of.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, So that's that's not well, first of all, you

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Speaker 25: can't make ideologies illegal because in the First Amendment. But

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Speaker 25: let me here's here's the other come back to this.

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Speaker 25: So I just reported this today. We're recording in late August. Right,

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Speaker 25: So Columbia Law School adjusted this diversity training. Tell us

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Speaker 25: all about it, right, And the diversity training was organized

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Speaker 25: around us single vignette about anti semitism. It was something

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Speaker 25: silly where like someone complains that it's hard to schedule

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Speaker 25: events around the Jewish holidays in the fall, and that

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Speaker 25: scene frames is an example of maybe maybe not even

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Speaker 25: anti Semitism, but insensitivity. And they spend all this time

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Speaker 25: talking about it. Okay, you know it's kind of a

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Speaker 25: silly Yeah, it's it's not real. It's not it's not

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Speaker 25: it's not it's it's also for for one, it's it's

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Speaker 25: not the kind of thing that actually upset Jewish students,

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Speaker 25: right that Columbia was calls to kill them, which actually happened,

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Speaker 25: you know, kills the people well, I mean the you

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Speaker 25: know Zionists.

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Speaker 2: Deserve to die.

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Speaker 25: Right, That's that's that's what actually was at issue, not

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Speaker 25: you know, someone being a little insensitive about whether but

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Speaker 25: organized an event. Right that that's not the problem. But

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Speaker 25: then the other key thing to see is that this

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Speaker 25: training was facilitated by a diversity consultant who has written

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Speaker 25: all sorts of ridiculous things, including that she never she

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Speaker 25: even wrote a blog post I think saying that she

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Speaker 25: doesn't ask if someone if she sees a man attempting

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Speaker 25: tow into the women's restroom, she won't stop him or

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Speaker 25: ask questions because she doesn't want to inadvertently commit a microaggression.

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Speaker 25: I mean, that's who Columbia decided to do TAP for

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Speaker 25: this training. During the training, she explicitly accuses President Trump

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Speaker 25: of committing a microaggression when he complimented the President of

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Speaker 25: Liberia on his English. She says that the terms crazy

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Speaker 25: uncle and grandfathering can be offensive and up and coming

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Speaker 25: lawyers should not say them. I mean, it has all

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Speaker 25: the kind of hallmarks of a stupid, crazy DEI training.

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Speaker 25: It's just that the vignette they chose was about anti semitism, right,

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Speaker 25: So not only is it not addressing the real anti

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Speaker 25: semitism problem on Columbia's campus, it's also reinforcing the crazy

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Speaker 25: Dei stuff that Trump I think has rightly been against.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it is.

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Speaker 25: There is a role for the federal government to play

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Speaker 25: in fighting anti semitism. You know, content neutral civil rights

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Speaker 25: laws that just say that you can't, you know, deny

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Speaker 25: Jewish students' access, right, like that's of course that's illegal,

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Speaker 25: you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean the whole thing is, Yeah, there's all.

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Speaker 25: Sorts of levers you can use, but you know, demanding

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Speaker 25: additional anti semitism training, I just I think that's going

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Speaker 25: to backfire. Look also, like, has anyone ever enjoyed sitting

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Speaker 25: through one of these trainings? And does anyone ever come

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Speaker 25: out of it thinking, I'm I'm so glad I had

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Speaker 25: to do that.

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Speaker 2: No, everyone hates the trainings.

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Speaker 25: So why add Jews to that, right, because then the

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Speaker 25: Jews are more kind of proximant to the resentment. Just

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Speaker 25: it's a it's it's I think it is very short sighted.

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Speaker 19: Why are we seeing a rise in Jew hate in

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Speaker 19: this country?

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Speaker 2: Again?

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Speaker 25: Another thing we could talk for hours about. I think

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01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,719
Speaker 25: some of it is just the result of us getting

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Speaker 25: more and more distance away from the Holocaust and this

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Speaker 25: kind of uh, basically filo Semitic consensus we had breaking down.

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Speaker 25: I also to think, and I'm not an expert on this,

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Speaker 25: my understanding is that among evangelicals, I think there used

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Speaker 25: to be this kind of pre millenarian like idiot eschatology

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Speaker 25: in which is sort of this idea that like it

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Speaker 25: was important to support Israel because the end of days

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Speaker 25: was imminent. I should say I am Jewish, so I don't.

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Speaker 21: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm not, you know, I'm not an expert on this stuff.

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Speaker 25: Very pre pre trib pre millennial theology is that, and

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Speaker 25: I think a lot of is fundamental to that right.

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Speaker 25: And I think a lot of people, including frankly many

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Speaker 25: progressive Jews, sort of held their noses at that and

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Speaker 25: sneered it and thought, well, that's you know, stupid, weird theology.

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Speaker 25: But you know, one of the benefits of that theology

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Speaker 25: was that it meant that the predominantly Christian American right

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Speaker 25: was very, yes, very pro Israel. And it's a good

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Speaker 25: example of you know, Chesteren's fence, the idea that you

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01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 25: don't always want to tear things down, you don't quite

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01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 25: understand the function they're serving in society. Right, I think

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Speaker 25: that you kind of got rid of that theology and

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Speaker 25: it maybe opened the door to some not good stuff.

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Speaker 25: And honestly, look, yeah, I mean, obviously the war in

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Speaker 25: Gaza has increased the salience of the issue. Obviously, just

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Speaker 25: the Internet allows all sorts of radical ideologies to spread.

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Speaker 25: But yeah, you know, I have to say I struggle

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Speaker 25: with this because I just fundamentally have always thought that,

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Speaker 25: like heartcore anti Semitism is just so sort of irrational

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Speaker 25: and not rooted in reality that I mean, yeah, trying

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Speaker 25: to even you're trying to explain the thought process of

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Speaker 25: you know, the logic of something that is fundamentally irrational.

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Speaker 25: I mean, it is not logical, so it can be

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Speaker 25: hard in some ways to provide a rational explanation. But

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Speaker 25: I will just say I will also say though, I

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Speaker 25: do not think the main cause, frankly is college students

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Speaker 25: at Columbia. I think they are more a symptom and

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01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 25: a reflection than a cause. I think the cause is

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Speaker 25: much deeper, kind of demographic.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, the Columbia problem is actually really simple.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it's actually we've imported a bunch of Muslim students

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Speaker 19: that hate Jews and have a many of which hate

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Speaker 19: the West. And then you couple that with a bunch

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Speaker 19: of secular people that are looking for meaning and they

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Speaker 19: look at everything through and a pressure oppression oppressed.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, the assumption that Israelis are are white and the

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Speaker 25: Palestinians are brown, correct, But you know that if you

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Speaker 25: actually go to the region and look at people, it's

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Speaker 25: like totally not true. I was there last year and

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Speaker 25: saw a a one of the darkest skin.

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Speaker 1: We'll meet a misra here, but.

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Speaker 25: You see, you see, even like Ethiopian Jews who are

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Speaker 25: have some of the darkest skin, you can ever you've

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Speaker 25: ever seen who are wearing the full Orthodox garb in Jerusalem,

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Speaker 25: Like it's it's it's a it's an amazing country, right,

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Speaker 25: but just the whole racial imaginary that we project onto

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Speaker 25: that region, it's totally wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what what would you say?

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01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 19: Are one or two of the biggest lies about what's

1544
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Speaker 19: happening right now? We're taping this, so we don't things

1545
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,839
Speaker 19: can change, But let's just say more broadly with Israel

1546
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 19: that you wish could be corrected, that are just falsehoods

1547
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 19: that are spread that you kind of pound your table

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Speaker 19: and you're like, I can't believe people believe this.

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Speaker 25: I mean, the race thing is is a big one

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01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:09,719
Speaker 25: in terms of the left.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 25: That's that's a big issue on the left where they

1553
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 25: project this. They try to basically project American racial categories

1554
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Speaker 25: onto a region that just totally rejects them and resist them.

1555
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 25: I think on the right, you know it, on the left,

1556
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 25: people will just take they'll they'll take something crazy from

1557
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Speaker 25: Israel out of context, like something really bad that one

1558
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 25: person said and say, oh, you know, clearly Israel wants

1559
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Speaker 25: to do X y Z. He's like, well, you know,

1560
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Speaker 25: if some obscure government minister says something nuts, right, like,

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Speaker 25: we don't. It's not fair to regardless of which parties

1562
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Speaker 25: in power, you know, it's not fair to conflate, right,

1563
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 25: you know, one crazy person in you know, an obscure

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Speaker 25: government position with an entire political party or with the

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Speaker 25: entire country certainly, right. I think that's that's a problem.

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Speaker 25: The other thing I would say, too, though, is so

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Speaker 25: much And I think this is more the fault of

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Speaker 25: the Americans who talk about it than it is Israelis.

1569
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 25: But they're they're, you know, they're to go back to

1570
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 25: the anti Semitism training. There's this this impulse to say, well,

1571
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Speaker 25: anti Semitism, it's another Isam, frame Jews is victims and

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Speaker 25: kind of add Jews to the list of victim categories.

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Speaker 25: I just don't think that that's compelling, right, And I

1574
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Speaker 25: think it's self defeating. Yeah, And I think and I

1575
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 25: think Israel is actually like a very cool country. And

1576
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Speaker 25: if they talk more about the coolness and the tech

1577
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 25: and the military, right, you know, one reason I think

1578
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Speaker 25: you do see some of the anti Semitism percolating on

1579
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Speaker 25: the right in some cases is that, you know, if

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Speaker 25: you think about how to reach like young men who

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Speaker 25: are turning right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the tel Aviv for a weekend.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, well I no, yeah, probably probably would would make

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Speaker 25: a more pro Israel, but also right, you know how

1585
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Speaker 25: not to reach them. You don't want to do this

1586
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Speaker 25: kind of hectoring woolmarm like you have to be you're

1587
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Speaker 25: you're a bigot for x y Z, just just because

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Speaker 25: people have been sort of trained, understandably from all the

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Speaker 25: DEI to react with my suspicion to any kind of

1590
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Speaker 25: accusation of bigotry. Again, there is real anti semitism. It's

1591
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Speaker 25: a problem. But you know, when you lecture people, I

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Speaker 19: Yeah, I think some and this is where I get

1594
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Speaker 19: some pushback. I was just debating the other day privately

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Speaker 25: There's a lot of conservative American Jews who think the

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Speaker 25: Netanyahu government mishandled the war and would prefer like not

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Speaker 25: Tali Bennett, who's actually to Netanyak, who's right. So, I

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Speaker 25: mean that's the other thing people don't. It's a very

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Speaker 25: complicated and I think right is I think there needs

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Speaker 25: to be a little bit of allowance there. Yeah, But

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Speaker 25: like here's another thing I would say. I don't know how.

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Speaker 25: I have no idea how they would do this. But

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Speaker 25: one thing I've been doing since since April was actually

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Speaker 25: taking kravmagaw lessons. Ravmagd is the martial art of the

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Speaker 25: Israeli defensive wars.

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Speaker 2: It's cool.

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Speaker 1: I think every young should learn it.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, but also just like young people, it's it's it's

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Speaker 25: good exercise. You feel like a badass after you do

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Speaker 25: one of the moves correctly. You're basically learning to be

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Speaker 25: like a real life action hero who can actually defend

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Speaker 25: yourself and your loved ones from an aggressor. And like

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Speaker 25: I would just think again, if you're trying to reach

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Speaker 25: you know, young men who are tired of being scolded

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Speaker 25: and tired of scoldim and rhetoric, right, don't just just

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Speaker 25: talking too much about anti Semitism. Again, I'm not saying

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Speaker 25: don't talk about it at all, but like if you

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Speaker 25: want to make people just think Israel's cool, like talk

1694
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Speaker 25: about Kravmagaw, talk about like the badass stuff that comes

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Speaker 25: out of Israel. Like, I feel like a lot of

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Speaker 25: young guys if they see think Israel and they think, oh,

1697
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Speaker 25: cool fighting system that teaches us how to you know,

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Speaker 25: defend ourselves against criminals, it's like, Okay, that's that's the

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Speaker 25: kind of message that like. I Yet, you know, a

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Speaker 25: young like eighteen twenty year old guy is.

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Speaker 19: Going to like, right, yes, And the more they understand

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01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:01,760
Speaker 19: it slum, the better Israel looks to. They have no

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Speaker 19: idea what it is rolls up against, right, which is

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Speaker 19: these Islamic barbarian monsters?

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Speaker 21: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Which which which which everyone no one wants to say

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Speaker 1: out loud.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 19: But so final thought on that though, how would you say,

1710
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 19: is a domestic prescription to quell and defeat this rise

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Speaker 19: in you hate which rocks the brain and destroys the soul?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: Look, I generally go back to if you enforce the

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Speaker 25: laws evenly and just hold everyone to the same standards

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Speaker 25: I think you do, you end up solving a lot

1716
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Speaker 25: of the problem. You get rid of a lot of

1717
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Speaker 25: the protests that violated the content neutral rules. You you

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Speaker 25: show that. Look, just everyone has to treat each other equally.

1719
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Speaker 25: You model that kind of ethic of equality, you know,

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Speaker 25: I think just talking about again dividing the world into

1721
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Speaker 25: a press or and a press that's never going to

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Speaker 25: end well for the Jews. So getting rid of dei

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Speaker 25: is good. Uh, that is fundamental, That's very important. And

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Speaker 25: uh yeah, I mean that's basically what I would say. Look,

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Speaker 25: and the other thing I would say, though, too, is

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Speaker 25: is just uh unfortunately, you know, anti Semitism has always

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Speaker 25: been with us. It's not a rational force, and we

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Speaker 25: no longer enjoy the kind of golden era where you

1729
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Speaker 25: could just take this very pro Israel and filo Semitic

1730
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Speaker 25: consensus for granted, it's a new terrain. Yeah, and you know,

1731
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Speaker 25: like probably not the worst thing for juice to learn

1732
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Speaker 25: some self defense, I unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: But how can people follow you support you? Look at

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Speaker 1: your work.

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Speaker 25: I'm on Twitter at Aaron Saveria. I write for the

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Speaker 25: Washington Free Beacon, which.

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Speaker 1: Is great, by the way.

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Speaker 25: Yeah about that, Oh yeah, sure, so we we we're

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Speaker 25: one of the few outlets on the right that's really

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Speaker 25: dedicated almost exclusively to investigative reports.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, that's what makes you guys different.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, and I think for young people interested.

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Speaker 1: Uh, it's the most important.

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01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I would say it.

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01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 25: There's also a temptation on the right, in particular to

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01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 25: want to go into opinion journalism, which we've sort of

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01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 25: over indexed on.

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01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:17,200
Speaker 1: Guilty.

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01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Look, I mean I was.

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01:33:19,160 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 25: I was that way and as a college you and

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01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 25: I was like, I want to, you know, be a

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01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 25: New York Times columnist and spout off my views.

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01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,799
Speaker 2: The reality is that that.

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01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 25: It's not impossible to be influential as an opinion columnist.

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01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 2: It's very very difficult.

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01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 1: I agree.

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01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 25: And it's much easier you'll get much more bang for

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01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 25: your buck if you.

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01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 1: Go and so many unreported stories.

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01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,280
Speaker 25: Yeah, and and to be honest, it does not it's

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01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 25: not all that hard. It's not all that hard to do.

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01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:45,600
Speaker 25: It takes a little work. But like you just you

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01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 25: interview people, you get people to give you documents, and

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01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 25: you just you report it accurately. You don't have to editorialize.

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01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:52,839
Speaker 25: You let the facts speak for themselves.

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01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,719
Speaker 1: Aaron, thank you for your time. Incredible work.

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Speaker 19: If I was giving out peel with surprises, you would

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01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 19: have got one, especially for the monocle. And antibody story

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Speaker 19: Aaron Siberian. Keep up the great work. You're welcome back anytime.

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Speaker 19: Have a wonderful weekend everybody, Shabbat Shalom. I'll see you

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01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 19: guys on Monday, and I'm traveling all over the world.

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Speaker 19: God bless you guys for a wonderful winner.