1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian's Evan Costello movies where they're in the 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Haunted House and and Costello sitting there and he's kind 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: of tiptoed around, and you know, the audience sees Frankenstein, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: and you know, you want Costello to turn around, and 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: he's just kind of and that's me the Car Doctor. 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Costello woke up and he said, 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: wait a minute, the monsters right behind me. Because right 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: at the moment I see the flame or the smoke 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: coming out of the alternator. I read the part in 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: the recall notice and says, and the alternator is going 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: to catch fire. And I went on, Welcome to the 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: this is where car owners the world overturned to for 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: you a busy signal, pick up the phone and call 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: in the garage to orders are open. But I am 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: here to take your call at eight and now I'm 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about. Running Hey, it's time 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: to start your engines along rock armnin Any and the 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: Car Doctor here at five zero nine zero zero. More 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: information to Car Doctor show dot com podcasting and all 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: the usual good stuff that you'll find there and everywhere else. Uh. 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: The Car Doctor is just all over the place expanding 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: and said, we just pick up another I can't talk 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: about it yet, but a couple more affiliates coming online 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: in the next two weeks, so we're looking forward to 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: that to reach out to more people across this great 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: country of ours. And um, the really good news this 29 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: week is I didn't I didn't start any more fires 30 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: this week. Nothing burned down. I survived the week at 31 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: the shop. The uh you know, the trans is actually 32 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: out of the suburban. I'm finished painting the floor pan 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: underneath as I'm restalling them. Because I figured if I 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: got fifteen years out of the suburban the first time around, 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm good for another fifteen if I do all this 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: right and make some improvements. You know what, I realized 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: that General Motors does wrong when they installed and a 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: lot of the car companies do this. Actually, they install 39 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: these plastic clips that hold the metal lines like fuel lines, 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: break lines, um, trans cooler lines. They install these plastic 41 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: clips and they put a steel line in the plastic 42 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: and then the plastic absorbs the moisture. How come they 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: don't put a dab of grease in that plastic clip. Right, 44 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: I was looking at it. I mean I took a 45 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: part this. And for those of you just haven't tuned 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: in recently, I've been. I've been. I'm doing a trans 47 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: in the suburban. The pamper it always garage, it always maintained, 48 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: or for suburban I've had forever, the fifty six thousand 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: miles at Puke, the trans um. You know, consequently, we're 50 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: doing a start at the starters, gotta come out to 51 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: do the trans The trans cooler lines are rusting, Let's 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: do trans cooler lines. The trans cooler lines are connected 53 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: to the radiator and the auxiliary trans cooler. Let's just 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: change that too and get it over with. You know, 55 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: let's just go through the truck and do this once 56 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: everything's fifteen years old. So they put the steel line 57 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: in the plastic clip. You know, that's really bad engineering. 58 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: That's that's really stupid, all right, And I remember one 59 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: of the things, and again, who we're back to old 60 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: school stuff, right, what worked from you know, forty years ago, 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: Let's continue to do it, Okay, And it was a 62 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: dabby yellow grease. Let's take it. Let's take a dabby 63 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: yellow grease, which you know, from what I understand, dealer 64 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: texts just hate to see yellow grease. They know that 65 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: was an independent repair shop. Because dealer texts don't seem 66 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: to use yellow grease. I haven't figured that out. Why yet? 67 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: Why out yet? Out? Why why out? Yeah? One or 68 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: the other one, whatever it takes. And you know, just 69 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: put a Schmary yellow grease and there clip the line 70 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: into the platts thic and we're gonna find out if 71 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: that you can't make it any worse. Of course, I've 72 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: painted all the lines with Benjamin moorial stole a moluster alkalid, 73 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: so that'll be the official paint. When I die, you 74 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: can use that to paint my tombstone. It will last forever. 75 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: Mr Yellow grease, the older grease. Doesn't that dissolve plastic, 76 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: not that I'm aware of. I don't think so. It's 77 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: it's impervious to everything, because if it does, why don't 78 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: we put why do we? We used to put a 79 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: schmir Well white grease, yellow grease on O rings and things. 80 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: You know, we used to use it as to hold 81 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: ring gaskets in place and things like that. To my knowledge, 82 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: it's not it doesn't because I've always heard to keep 83 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: petroleum products or or something based on patroleum away from 84 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: those things. Or is this grease not based on petroleum? 85 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what you know, Tom, It's an excellent question. 86 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out. So fifteen years from now, when 87 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: I take it apart, if the places the clips are 88 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: still there, will know because I'm counting on getting at 89 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: least under fifteen years out of this, uh, this vehicle. 90 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: So it's, um, you know, at the at the current state, 91 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: I've figured about fifteen years. I'll another fifteen years. It 92 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: gives me thirty altogether, I'll have all the bugs worked 93 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: out of it, and I can go back to General 94 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Motors and say whant it to design it and make 95 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: it look like this? All right? Um, you know, just 96 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: just because that's the way it is. Um. I want 97 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: to talk to you about I want a little have 98 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: a little heart to heart chat. And I know we've 99 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: got somebody on the phone. Let me just get this 100 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: out of the way first. I want to talk to 101 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: you about the three hardest things in life, and it's 102 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: the three hardest places to walk into. Is where this 103 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: where this really starts. I think it's really tough to 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: walk into a doctor's office for the first time. There 105 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: seems to be a lot of confusion in doctor's offices 106 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: or some of the ones I've been in lately, and 107 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: it's there's there's always a different routine and always a 108 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: different set of policies, and you're trying to establish a relationship. 109 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm not beating up doctors. I'm just saying the process 110 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: of the functionality of into the doctor's office it's a 111 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: little intimidating. I think police stations are the same way, right, 112 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: who in the room? Anybody ever walk into a police 113 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: station and not feel overwhelmed, right, I mean, Tony, you 114 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: ever feel overwhelmed and you're welcome to a police station 115 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: and you've done it enough times though, I'm sure, so 116 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: hold your votes. So and in the third place has 117 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: to be a repair shop. Maybe I'm sensitive to it. 118 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm nuts. A potential customer walked 119 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: into the shop yesterday, Rick, I don't know, Rick from Boo, 120 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: and I had a fifteen minute conversation with them, you know, 121 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: you sort of it's it's it's a job sting match, 122 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: all right, It's it's a back and forth. It's you're 123 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: trying to establish the relationship because I think ought to repair. 124 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: Like that one with the doctor, like that one walking 125 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: into the police station. It tends to be a bit 126 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: of a bit of a relationship. And you know, you're 127 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: you're trying to feel your way and figure things out, 128 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: and you know who can you trust and who can't 129 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 1: you trust? And um, it's the way society is built today. 130 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: I think, I really think we as human beings all 131 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: go through and I'm almost overwhelmed. Just for the record, Um, 132 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: now there's a subcategory here because I'm overwhelmed walking into 133 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: dellies and bakeries because I can never really decide, you know, 134 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: what to buy, what to eat. We can tell by 135 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: your waistline that you used to go into delis and bakeries. 136 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: But I'm getting Shelton now. You know, by the way, 137 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: I didn't see you at the gym this morning, myself. 138 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: Yeah really, you know you're happy looking the way you are. 139 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: I can understand that, no problem, um, but uh, and 140 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: the gym, the gym was brutal this morning, by the way. Um. 141 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: So Rick comes in and his daughter's Volkswagen is overheating. 142 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: It's a beatle and he starts off right at the 143 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: bat with a conversation about he would like me to 144 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: just replace the water pump in the timby belt. And 145 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: I can tell by talking to him that he has 146 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: done his Internet research and I get it. And you know, 147 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: like I told him, you know, the Internet has turned 148 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: everybody into mechanics. Everybody's an Internet mechanic. The question is 149 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: is the guy you're reading about on the internet is 150 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: he an idiot or does he really know what he's 151 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: talking about? And there in you know, it's it's like 152 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: the comedians that do the jokes about personality enhancing drugs, 153 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: But what if you're an idiot and they make you 154 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: a bigger one, you know, So it's it's really the 155 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: truth when it comes down to reading something on the 156 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: Internet and believing it. And Rick was very receptive, to 157 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: his credit, he got it. He you know, we sat 158 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: and we had the whole conversation about timing belt and 159 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna use Volkswagen parts and the cost factor and 160 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: you know how we're gonna try and do things as 161 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: one because it seems Volkswagen is no different than a 162 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: lot of the car companies out there. It's everything is plastic, 163 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: you touch one thing, and you know there's a ripple effect. 164 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: So you're in there, do it all, get it, get 165 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: it over with, and it's got to be hard for him, 166 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: a guy like Rick Um. And I said that to him, 167 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: not just because he happened to walk in as a 168 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: consumer for the first time, but because Rick used to 169 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: sell auto parts and it was interesting to hear. He said, 170 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: I used to sell lot of parts, sold lot of 171 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: parts for fifteen years. And we had the whole conversation. 172 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: He's a gear head, he's a car guy. He's got 173 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: a couple of older Mopars from the seventies and the sixties, 174 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: and it was really funny. He said. The problem I 175 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: see in order repair shops is and this is how 176 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think you make a connection with somebody 177 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: because they kind of you know, they let down their 178 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: their their guard and they start to talk to your. 179 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 1: Heart to heart he said, is I can't tell you 180 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: how many repair shops would call us when I was 181 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: in the parts business and say do you have a 182 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: radiator for such and such? And if you said no, 183 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: they would say, okay, just send me a can of 184 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: black spray paint, and and I would be at I 185 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: can't of black spray painting, some and some sealer. And 186 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: you know, he said, there's just so much ineptitude and 187 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: dishonesty and corruption. He says, I can't find anybody to 188 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: bring my car to. And that's what makes it so 189 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: hard for somebody like him to walk into a repair 190 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 1: shop because he's he's been polluted. And that's part of 191 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: my job. My job is to unpollute him. Um and 192 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: I will if he comes back. I uh, you know, 193 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: I gave him the speech, you gotta give me a year. 194 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: And I think that you when you walk into a 195 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: repair shop, you've got to give anybody a year. You 196 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: can't judge a mechanic by the first experience, by the 197 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: well in the sense that as long as it's a 198 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: good one, all right. If they fixed the car the 199 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: first time, they deserve a shot at fixing the car 200 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: the second time, all right. If they fix the car 201 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: a second time, you know, and so on, all right. 202 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: I ought to repair. Unlike baseball, football and a lot 203 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: of other sports, is based on the predication that you're 204 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: always right and you always fix it correctly the first time. 205 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: You can't lose. There's no losing season in baseball. I know, 206 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: nobody that's going back to a mechanic because you know 207 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: they they only hit the ball three out of ten times. 208 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: You know, out of ten repairs, they only got it 209 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: right three times. Nobody's going back for that. You gotta 210 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: hit the ball a thousand percent. You've got to be 211 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: on target each and every time. Where will Rick go? 212 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was backed up a week. I 213 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 1: can't get to it till a week from monday. So 214 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: we'll we'll, we'll see what happens. But um, it just 215 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: made me realize, and I told him I in no 216 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: one certain way. I said, you know, I understand how 217 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: hard it is to walk into a repair shop. It's listen, 218 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to walk into a repair shop. 219 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: You know, out on the road, I get a flat 220 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: tire somewhere and it's, you know, seven hours from home, 221 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: and I need to go buy a tire, a battery. 222 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: It's happened. It hasn't happened a lot, but um, you know, 223 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: it's tough. Repair shops don't seem to be very friendly places, 224 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: unlike delis and bakeries, which to me are still tough 225 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: to walk into because there's so many choices. You're like 226 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: just give me one Tony. If you don't shut up, 227 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: you're not getting a chocolate cookie next week. You're cut off. Okay, 228 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: see he won't tell you that part. Folks. We found 229 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: a new Delhi that Tony likes and they have these 230 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: big giant chocolate sugar cookies. Um, just like him. It's 231 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: really sweet. So um. Anyway, that's our guy, Tony. May 232 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: we come back. We'll get a scan tool out of him. 233 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm run any in the Cardio zero. When we come back, 234 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: we're gonna open up the phones and we'll talk to 235 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: Glory in Hartford, Connecticut. Stay tuned. Wait, I don't want 236 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: to talk yet. I like this music. Chap right on. 237 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: We'll get it right on, Anthony. We get a scan 238 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: for later the card doctor, and we're back zero. By 239 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: the way, the whole point of that opening conversation is 240 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: it's about the relationship. And you gotta have a relationship 241 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: with a mechanic like you have to have it with 242 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: a doctor. And you know, maybe sometimes you gotta a 243 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: relationship with the cops too in that sense, and and 244 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: and and actually you do, I take that back. You 245 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: do have to have a relationship with the cops because 246 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: you gotta, Um, you gotta, you know, you gotta take 247 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: care of the cops and talk to them and they'll 248 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: talk to you, and everybody gets along. That's part of 249 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: life anyway, Gloria, Hartford, Connecticut. I'm gonna stop being father 250 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: Ron and go back to being the car doctor. How 251 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: can I help you? Hi, Ron? Do you recommend Angie's 252 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: list for mechanics? Um? You know that's a hard call, Gloria. 253 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: We're on Angie's list. I know other guys that are 254 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: on Angie's list. I think I still think the best 255 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: way to find a mechanic is word of mouth. But 256 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: WHI when I take that back, I think it depends 257 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: on what you're looking for. You know, what is what? 258 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: You know? What do you look for in a mechanic? 259 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: You know, people usually give me and I always ask 260 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: that question. People will say, well, I want it fixed right, 261 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: And then somewhere along the way, price comes into it, 262 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: because I get it. You know what. Some people like 263 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: a McDonald's hamburger. Some people like a steakhouse hamburger. Some 264 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: people like a diner hamburger. There's different tastes and that's okay. 265 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: There's different there's different levels and there's a different budgets 266 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: and all that makes sense, you know. I think the 267 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: number one factor with with mechanics that people are really 268 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: looking for is honesty and and and ability and honesty. 269 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: It's hard to judge, you know. I mean you you're 270 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: not talking to a psychiatrist, you know what I mean. 271 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: So you want is somebody who is going to do 272 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: your job right well, and I think a fair price. 273 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: Give you a fair price and not be poking around 274 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: with Well, they tell you pretty much what their prices are, 275 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: you know, right on a list, usually in the mechanics office, 276 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 1: they'll tell you that what the cost is for certain things. 277 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: So wait, let's have that conversation. So what's a fair price? 278 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: To find a fair price? Four wheel breaks on something? 279 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: You know, it'll say, it'll tell you that they get 280 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: so much an hour, and breaks are so many hours, 281 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: you know, and so you get some feel before you 282 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: get the bill of what it's going to cost you. 283 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: And I like that, you know, particularly coming from a 284 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: senior citizen. And I can see that that makes that 285 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 1: makes ends to me. So what happens though, when that 286 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: first time mechanic here, I'll tell you a story. I'll 287 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: tell you I'll tell you a really good story. This week. 288 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: We had a he's probably a twenty year customer, maybe 289 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: Toyota camera. It needed an alternator, and you know, it 290 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: was diagnosed. The battery was going dead, the lights were 291 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: getting dim and we checked the charging system and the 292 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: alternator had low output. We have to put an alternator 293 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: in the car. Okay, to put an alternator in a camera, 294 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: it's a little bit involved. The bumper's gotta get moved, 295 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: the radiator's got to come out, the you know, that 296 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: corner of the car has got to come apart. So 297 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, let's not start it today, Let's start it tomorrow. 298 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: He brings it back the next day. We have the 299 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: alternator in stock. We started, we ordered, we have it 300 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: on the shelf. We um start on it early in 301 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: the day and and finish it. And when we're done, 302 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: the car has this weird vibration, not a vibration, but 303 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: like a rattling noise. And I said, gee, where the 304 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: heck did that come from? And I dig into it 305 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: a little deeper, and on a hunch, I grabbed the 306 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: water pump pulley and it rocks. It moves back and forth. 307 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: It's not terribly worn. But it's worn, it's gonna need 308 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: a water pump. The six camera. So the moral to 309 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: the story is or the question becomes, do we do 310 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: anything wrong? We put an alternator in the car, We 311 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: diagnosed the bead alternator, and there's there's there's no way 312 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: on God's green Earth, I can possibly twist every water 313 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: pump pully every time I check an alternator to see 314 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: if it's good or bad, you know, until it either 315 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: kicks its head up or you know it's I'm in 316 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: the job now. You know, Harvey was a regular customer. 317 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: He gets it. He says, you know what, I'll come 318 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: back in a couple of weeks. We'll do the water pump. 319 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: But imagine if that was a first time customer. You know, 320 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: and and and and and that's a problem. And that's 321 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: what my mind would go towards. You'll find me more work, right, 322 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: and and I've got to tell you I understand that, 323 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: I understand why the first time customer would think like that. 324 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: I've also got to tell you they're wrong, all right, 325 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: because I didn't. I didn't break that water pump as 326 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: the mechanic I found it. I found it at that 327 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: point in the process. But if if, if we were 328 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: going by the book, nowhere, nowhere in the in the 329 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: in the textbook explanation of diagnosing a bad alternator, does 330 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: it say check the water pump, see if it's bad. 331 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's just an occurrence. And and I think, 332 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, it comes down to this. I think ought 333 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: to repair now and ever so much more in the future, 334 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: as it always has been, is gonna be that relationship thing. So, Gloria, 335 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. All right, it's it's it's 336 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: it's a budget thing, it's a cost thing, it's a 337 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's unfortunate. Now, if that happens every time, 338 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: then something's wrong. It's gonna but it's gonna happen once 339 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: in a while. That's gonna happen once in a while. 340 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: There's gonna be a bump in the road. But when 341 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: you involved the customer, you make a call to them 342 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: and say, look, we found something else, right, Okay, are 343 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: this thing is rocking and it's not anything that we 344 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: created or are we upset in the car? It's just 345 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: involved them every step of the way. So I mean, 346 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: you soothe them into another recare, you know well, and listen, 347 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: let's let's say it went the other way, all right, 348 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: and it does. And people have short term memory. I've 349 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: I've learned that, all right, where you'll you'll you'll look 350 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: at the car for the bed alternator, and everything tells 351 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: you it's a bid alternator, and you'll go to unplug 352 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: the alternator and you'll find why, look at that the 353 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: wire is broken in the connector, and hey, you know what, Gloria, 354 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: All I gotta do is fix this connector. It's going 355 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: to take an hour instead of and Gloria is all excited. Hey, 356 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: this is great, But Gloria doesn't not you. But you 357 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: get the point. Gloria may not remember that six months 358 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: later when I find a bad water pump on the 359 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: next job. Hey, Gloria, don't go away. We didn't get 360 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: to your question yet, but we will, I promise. So 361 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying this. Good call five five zero zero, run 362 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: any of the car, doctor, he Glaria. We'll both be 363 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: back right after this. That's right. If you call and 364 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: we're not live, you can leave a message and we'll 365 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: call you back to get you on the air with 366 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: Ron eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero. 367 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of Ron, here he is welcome back on any 368 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor right five five five zero nine 369 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: zero zero if you need me during the week. By 370 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 1: the way, Ron at Car Doctor show dot com. Gloria, 371 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: you're still there. I'm still here, and I have a 372 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: two thousand Toyota Sala four cylinder hundred fifty six thousand 373 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: miles just broken in. I can't just broken in. I 374 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: thought you said I just heard just broken Well, you 375 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: know what, when I pumped gas, it clicks off all 376 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: the time. I'd like to spend days trying to get 377 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: fifteen dollars worth of gas in my car. I get 378 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: frustrated and I just leave the gas station. You know. 379 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: So it's been diagnosis. Maybe it could be spiders. This 380 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: was from the dealer, and I walked away with two 381 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: d dollar bill but no answer. So other people say 382 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: it could be a crimped wire. But I cannot hold 383 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: the nozzle. I have to hold it very loosely, let 384 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: gas go in and then pull it out a lot. 385 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: So okay, let me let me ask you a question. 386 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: And this is no, this is not meant to be 387 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: an insult. You remember the days when you'd open a 388 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: soda can with a can open you had open up 389 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: both sides, right, you have to. You have to open 390 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: up one side to pour the soda and open up 391 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: the other side. If you don't, didn't open up the 392 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: other side the soda and pour out of the can. Right. 393 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't recall that, but I remember that. Geez, I 394 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: remember that. That was like it feels like yesterday. Yeah, 395 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: you don't remember that's you know, well I heard see 396 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: I heard senior citizen before, so I assumed I apologize. Um, 397 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: but yeah, the idea about equal pressure. So gas tanks 398 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: and gas cans are are really the same way. When 399 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: when you're putting fuel in the tank, you know you're 400 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: you're you're building pressure and a closed container. So they 401 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: have to have a wight to vent that. They have 402 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: to have a way to let the pressure out of 403 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: the tank to put it somewhere so that you can 404 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: displace the fumes with fuel, right, makes sense. So that 405 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: you know there's a couple of things involved here. There's 406 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: a vent line, which is a vent. It's it's imagined 407 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: the dryer in your house, if it didn't have a 408 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: vent hose on it, where with the hot air go 409 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: it would build up enough pressure, enough heat and eventually 410 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: would be a problem. So they put a ventos on 411 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: the gas tank to take the fumes and allow them 412 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: to be pushed into a charcoal canister for storage. Okay, 413 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: so one of the things we would do to diagnosis 414 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: is is find the vent line which is either going 415 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: to be on top of the tank, might have access 416 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: there around the tank area, or at the top of 417 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: the filler neck and just disconnected. Go to the gas station, 418 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: try and put gas in it. If if you can 419 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: put gas in it, the problem is in the vent 420 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: hose down either in the canister, the ventoes the vent alright, 421 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: but at least it's on that side of the system. 422 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: If you still can't put fuel in it, then there's 423 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: probably a problem with the filler neck itself. The filler 424 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: necks on a lot of cars and yours, there's no exception. 425 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: Are there there there two piece. There's an inner and 426 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: outer sleeve on a lot of the cars today. And 427 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: what will happen is the inner sleeve has a clamp 428 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: where it goes to the neck, and that clamp comes 429 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: loose and the inner hose falls off. You can still 430 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: put fuel in the tank, but this the inner sleeve 431 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: being displaced now creates pressure and it causes the pump 432 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: the click off on a repeated basis click click click, 433 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: click click click. Uh, you know when it wan't to 434 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: lay it to put fuel in the tank. But it's 435 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: just a simple process. It's not that difficult to really resolve. 436 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: You know, they've just got to they've just got to 437 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: understand it. It all comes back to the basics of 438 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, pressure in, pressure out. It's got to go somewhere. 439 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: So where is it getting stuck that it's kicking off 440 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: the hose like that? Okay? And and would that require 441 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: that it would be put up on a lift tour? 442 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: Could they do it now? They need to put it, 443 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: They need to put it up on a lift. They 444 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 1: would need to put it up on a lift, and 445 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: then they need some time with it. Obviously, you know, 446 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: I would make an appointment with a mechanic, take it 447 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: to him with a quarter tank of fuel for a 448 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: couple of reasons. Number one, he's gonna have to put 449 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: some fuel in it during the process. And number two, 450 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: if if for some reason there's a problem internally in 451 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: the tank, and that could come up if he's got 452 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: to take the tank out obviously easier with less fuel 453 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: in it. Than more so, all right. And if if 454 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: the mechanic wants to reference this conversation, if you want 455 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: to give him, you know, you can tell them that 456 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: you were on the Car Doctor on Saturday whatever it's 457 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: today today on Saturday to seventeen. Uh, this will be 458 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: up on our website on their podcast, you know when 459 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: the live broadcast goes to podcast, and um, you were 460 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: an hour one down around the bottom of the hour, 461 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: and they can actually listen to it and take it. 462 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, we never thought in all the 463 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: years I'm on radio, I never thought of doing that. 464 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: And lately people are telling me, hey, I took my segment. 465 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: I played it for my mechanic and you knew what 466 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: to do. So you know, if that helps, I'm glad 467 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: to do it. All right, all right, And I'm going 468 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: to leave you with a question and I'm going to 469 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: get off the line. Okay. Do you feel that women 470 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: are taking advantage of more than men? Yes? Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, um, 471 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this now, now, but I'll tell 472 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: you this glory and now wait, I'll tell you this, Um. 473 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: One of the one of the things I found in 474 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: my twenty seven years on radio and my forty three 475 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: years of fixing cars. Don't tell the guys this. It's 476 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: easier talking to it's easier talking to women. And I 477 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: don't know why women. Women seem to listen better. I'm 478 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: not sure why. I'm not sure if that's maybe I'm 479 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: maybe I'm looking at it wrong. You know, I raised 480 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: three daughters and I'm still married after thirty something years. Um, 481 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: so I've I've learned to, you know, listen to women 482 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: and hear what they've got to say. And it's it's 483 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: a better connection. Again, it's the relationship thing. But yeah, 484 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: I think women are intimidated. I think I think women 485 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: have a harder time in the in the doctor's office, 486 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: and I think they have a harder time in the 487 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: police station for sure. I think, Um, I think they 488 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: kind of get pushed around a little bit. So you've gotta, 489 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta, you gotta worry about him. You 490 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: gotta take care of them. Mechanic movement. I like that. 491 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Thank you, Gloria, you have a b bye bye. So 492 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: how sweet right can we do that? We have a 493 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: meet a mechanic movement. My mechanic, my my mechanic. An 494 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: I didn't fix my car, right, boy? You talk about 495 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: sexual harassment. That list would probably go further out down 496 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: the line. Um, I wonder which is more. So let's 497 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: pull over and take a pause real quick. Five zero 498 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: nine zero zero running any of the car doctor coming 499 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: right back? Don't go away? Welcome back? Why don't any 500 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 1: of the car doctor? Yeah, Tony, listen, you have to 501 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: push that little button. Hey, I'm into folks. I got 502 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: helped Tony. Here. You gotta push that little button so 503 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: the red light lights up. It was an honest mistake. 504 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm human, you know. I knew I could get you 505 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: to talk. You know. Yeah, in a couple of years 506 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: on the self driving cars, you know, things happened. Okay, 507 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: this is human error. Listen, I knew I could get 508 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: you to talk on air today. You know all, I 509 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: can probably figure out how to program it. So you 510 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: better be nice to Tony. Nobody wants to talk to you. 511 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: Get back, and how was your week this weekend? It 512 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: was fine? It was Fine's a pleasure to see it. 513 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: It's good to be seen. Yeah, well that's absolutely true. Yes, 514 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: so you're ready to take the next call. Yes, we're 515 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: gonna take Jim from on Virginia. There you go. Well, 516 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: you know, you keep it? Can we get a little more? 517 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: Can you put a little more live innocent? Try that again? Now. 518 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: The next call is online to Jim from from Virginia. Okay, 519 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: there we go. Let's go to Jim from Virginia. I 520 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: like that needs a little work, Jim. Welcome to the 521 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir, how can I help? Thank you very much. 522 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: I have a nineteen seven Camaro Z. It's a thirtieth 523 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: anniversary edition automatic. UM. And what has happened is I 524 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: don't drive it very much anymore, UM, trying to keep 525 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: the miles off of it. I pulled it out and 526 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: when I went to start at the battery wasn't dead, 527 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: but it was low. But after three or four cranks 528 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: it fired right up. All my dash lights came on. 529 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: I'll pulled it out, let it run. Fifteen minute's turned 530 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: it off, turned it back on. All the lights went off. 531 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: I thought, great, everything's good. I've had it, says two 532 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, never had any problems. The batteries about 533 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: a year and a half of old. UM. So as 534 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: it's out there idling, the temperature starts going up. And 535 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: the temperature has never gone up over a hundred eighty 536 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: year in Virginia in South Carolina. One time it went 537 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: to one is a hundred two degrees outside, So I 538 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: take it to the mechanic. We put a radiator cap, 539 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: new fluid thermostat in it, and a cooling temperature switch. Okay, um, 540 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: cooling temperature. So cooling fan number one which is the 541 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: running fan, and two and three or two air conditioning 542 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: fans which if you turn the air conditioning on, it 543 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: drops straight down to a hundred eighty again and stays there. 544 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: So Chevrolet Dealer and show Relay company cannot tell me 545 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: when the fan is supposed to cut on and off. 546 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: My mechanic puts it on the computer, and it's cutting 547 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: on at two thirty nine and cutting off at two. 548 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: This thing's got aluminum heads from the factory. It's never 549 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: run that hot. I've disconnected the battery for the positive 550 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: for a day, put a little charge on the battery. 551 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: Is still doing the same thing. I'm at wits end. Um, 552 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: let me let me ask you this Jim, any any 553 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: signs of air in the cooling system. Um, no, sir, 554 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: we actually checked for that. Uh. We put the we 555 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: cook the radiator tap off and let it run a 556 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: good while. Um. I've also replaced all the relays for 557 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: the fans. So you know, I'm and my mechanic says, 558 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: you know, maybe something's hit your computer when it went down, Jim, 559 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: But I didn't jump started, so he does. He's a 560 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: good mechanic. He doesn't want to throw parts at it. Yeah, no, 561 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: I get that, And I've got to tell you that, 562 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: um uh to thirty nine just sounds way too high. 563 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: The switch that you changed is the switch that you changed? 564 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: Is you changed the switch for the fan itself well 565 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: as a cooling temperature sensor? Is a two is a 566 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: two twopen switch? Um that has like a heat synk 567 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: looking thing we're screwsed down into the engine. I guess 568 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: he did that for me, so I wasn't there when 569 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: he replaced it. Uh, when he was just searching. He thought, 570 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, that was an easy and expensive thing we 571 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: could throw at it. Um. So let me ask you this, 572 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: Do you still have the old one? I do? Why? 573 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm well, because what I'm gonna get to is I 574 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: want to talk about brand the bran and that you got. 575 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: GM doesn't make that part anymore, do they? No? It 576 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: was a Nappa okay, and I'm not picking on NAPA. 577 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: But I'm just two thirty nine is too high, all right? 578 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: That sensor should have well color wires. Does that have 579 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: going to it? A yellow and two blacks? Or no, 580 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: a yellow in a blaket. It'll be a yellow in 581 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: a black. Yeah, I think so. But I'm not here 582 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: at the car right now. It's down in the garage, 583 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: and like I say, I don't even know where this 584 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: cooling sensor was on the car. On the water pump. Possibly. Okay, 585 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: you know it's let's let's do this logically, all right, 586 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's do this as scientifically as we can. 587 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: My wife had this same motor. We had a ninety 588 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,239 Speaker 1: four Chevy Wagon, same thing. Uh, five seven P motor. Uh, 589 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: this should be a P motor. Correct to imports a 590 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: tu import car um whatever is in the nine seven 591 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: to two important injection. This has eight fuel injectors. Yes, yes, 592 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: next year one right there is a tune port car. 593 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: So you know, first thing we want to do is 594 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: make sure we've got nowhere in the system we want 595 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: to bleed it, all right, just just just just to 596 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: have that conversation. Okay, number two when he did the 597 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: thermostat if I'm not mistaken. There should be a pital 598 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: valve on the thermostat. Make sure the pittal valve is 599 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: in the right position just so that it can burp 600 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 1: any air until the thermostat opens all the way as 601 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: the thermostat opens. Is there a point before the two 602 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: thirty nine? Are we feeling? Radiator hoses? Is one hot? 603 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: One warmer? They both is one really hot and one stone? Call? 604 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: Do you know what the hose temperature is? Uh? But 605 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: we did grand boat the boat the hoses, and I 606 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: believe they were warm. Okay, so we've got circulation. Oh, 607 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Jim, Sit tight a minute. I've 608 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: got to pull over and take a pause before I 609 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: went into trouble with Tony, and Tony is bigger than me, 610 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: so I have to listen to him today. Um, stay 611 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: right where you are. I'll be right back to here. 612 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm ron adying the car doctor coming back right after this. 613 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back on any of the car doctor. Let's be quick, Jim, 614 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: you're still there. Yes, there are how many fans on 615 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: this car? Two or three? Okay? Two of them are 616 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: side by side and one of them is in front 617 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: of the radiator. Okay, the two their side by side, 618 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: because I thought about what you said. The two that 619 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: are side by side, do they come on together? When 620 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: they do come on? Okay, And that's the way it's 621 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: supposed to be. When they're in low speed, they should 622 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: come on together. But two thirty nine is too high, alright, 623 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: if if if I remember correctly, and I'm going back 624 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: a few years, I believe the spec was to to 625 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: eight because I always remember thinking that was too high. Um. 626 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 1: And it's gonna sound silly, but the reason I remember 627 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: to eight was remember the TV show Room to um 628 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: back a million years ago, and it just I always 629 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: think of it is, oh yeah, it's room to twenty eight. 630 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: It's one of those cars, a little word association. But 631 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: that's how I remember it, I think. Is so for 632 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: some reason, those fans are coming on twelve thirteen degrees 633 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: higher than what they should be. And and and it's 634 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: just the fan one is the only one that's not 635 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: coming on when it should because when I turned to 636 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: air conditioning on the other two or air conditioning fans 637 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: from what I understand, and it will bring it straight 638 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: down to one again. Right. But but but so well, 639 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: let me just tell you, let me say it, say 640 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: it like this, fans one and two should come on 641 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: low speed somewhere around town. It was room two, seven, whatever, eight, 642 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: all right. And the fact that they're the fact that 643 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: now at two thirty nine, are they both coming on? Um? 644 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: From the way I remember at fan one is the 645 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: one that's coming on on? Okay, well this until I 646 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: turned the air conditioning on and then two and three 647 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: come on. And that's a problem right there. All right? 648 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: My understanding, my memory is, and I could go through 649 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: some research and you can email me and I'll be 650 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: glad to send you what I find. But my memory 651 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: is two fans one and two run together low speed 652 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: at two degrees. So if the fans, if the fans 653 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: aren't coming on until two thirty nine, if that one 654 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: fan is coming on, that sounds like is that fan 655 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: really spinning fast at two thirty nine? I'm wondering if 656 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: that fan is coming on at high speed. I think 657 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: high speed is to thirty nine. I'm wondering if you 658 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: don't have a low speed control here, I'm wondering if 659 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: your fans aren't operating at low speed, because in low 660 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: speed they both come on, and high speed the one 661 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: comes on. If I if I remember this correctly. Jim, 662 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: you got a pencil real quick. Send me an email 663 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: ron at Car Doctor Show dot com. Ron at Car 664 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: Doctor show dot com, give me the vin I'll get 665 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: you some information. I'm run any Car Doctor become Mechanics 666 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. And see you