WEBVTT - MARCUS SPEARS PART 1

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John and this

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<v Speaker 1>is cut to it. Good do it, Good do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get down to do it. Good do it. We

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<v Speaker 1>asked the questions you always want to know, but no

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<v Speaker 1>one ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard

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<v Speaker 1>about it, then we're about to let you. Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>all that's welcome your good friend. He thinks he got

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<v Speaker 1>a little swag on him from bad and Rouge. Louisiana

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<v Speaker 1>went to uh Louisiana State University also known as l

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<v Speaker 1>s U and a former defensive end Baltimore Raven and

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<v Speaker 1>what it really loves to claim that star Dallas Cowboy.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the cut to a podcast. Marcus spears, what's

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<v Speaker 1>some fella listens what and I'm impressed by yo Louisiana accent.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that was? That was dope. Hey, when you

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<v Speaker 1>run through it, when you run through a team twice

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<v Speaker 1>a year every year for thirteen years, you gotta pick

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<v Speaker 1>up something. It was it was no limit ish. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing this today? Is I gonna do it today?

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<v Speaker 1>And it was facts. Was there was there a cap?

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't got nothing to do with that. I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>never played for the same. Okay, we'll put your mc

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<v Speaker 1>hammerglasses back on. How about that it's got a glare.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't have to put ant on my glass. Year. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we were about to start off. We like to start

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<v Speaker 1>off with some little ice breakers. Now I have to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you your team sent uh, some dough some some dudes,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't what they said. So here's what they said.

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<v Speaker 1>They sent no political questions. So who did you vote for? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>The insurrection? Are you against it? A ford? Uh? They

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<v Speaker 1>listen to see sense of things that. I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna ask him that. Who did you vote for?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you on so secure? Were you? Were you on

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<v Speaker 1>us section eight? As a kid? I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>just it was mad at me all the time, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't give a damn Steve. Her job

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<v Speaker 1>is to protect me. My job is to do something.

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<v Speaker 1>So she has to do um to justify justify that check.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're saying. Huh. But I wasn't gonna ask

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<v Speaker 1>who you vote for? I know better than that. Hey man, Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give us. Bro let me not y'all gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give me texts about thirty seconds. Here's the Here are

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we don't we don't want to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's one that we were gonna ask that we

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<v Speaker 1>can't even ask even because I'm scared they're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>add it out. They had to do with somebody. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't Okay, people would not like me to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you that. All right, all right, all right, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I knew this was yes, I knew this

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<v Speaker 1>was coming. I know you didn't I didn't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna ask you. First of all, there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many I would love to do a podcast were like

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<v Speaker 1>ten or fifteen active or retire guys and just ask

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<v Speaker 1>questions that we know darn well we can't answer, but

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<v Speaker 1>just to ask, like why, just why you why? Not

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<v Speaker 1>even not even an answer, I don't even even answer,

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<v Speaker 1>just the question of why, just to get the reaction.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you think that was appropriate? Yeah? Like we

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<v Speaker 1>at what point did you think that was appropriate? See?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. That's the things man Like people get

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<v Speaker 1>piste off because I'll be saying what I mean, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really don't think about repercussions. I'm right there

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<v Speaker 1>with you, and it is what it is sometimes, bro

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<v Speaker 1>Like something I realized that I worked for a company

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<v Speaker 1>I understand to that six years in and I just

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<v Speaker 1>realized that, yeah, you represent it's a while too. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a metal while, to be honest with you. But but

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<v Speaker 1>but also, man, I've become more censored in my age

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<v Speaker 1>because of my kids and my wife. Like that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I have I've become a little bit more sensitive to

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<v Speaker 1>things that I say, let's let's jump right into and

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<v Speaker 1>instead of you know, we usually do icebreakers, but that

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<v Speaker 1>that ice the one of the icebreakers was funny because

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna we don't really care what your political

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<v Speaker 1>views are because, let's be honest, a color of our skin.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't really care what we think anyway, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as we pair our taxes and catch and jump and

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<v Speaker 1>tackle and and and do the things that is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do on the field. And if we don't do

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<v Speaker 1>it on the field, they're gonna they're gonna call us, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the hard art anyway and keep it moving. So so

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<v Speaker 1>let's experience. But it is true. Let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, what have you learned as an analyst that

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<v Speaker 1>you wished you knew as a player that could benefit

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<v Speaker 1>your benefit you as a player today, as a player today,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you can, if you know what you know now,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to go back in time to benefit you

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<v Speaker 1>because I I have some things and I'll let you

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<v Speaker 1>go first. That I'm realizing that it's some whoppers. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about whoppers, some like mythical stories that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I'll just be I'm just be fuddled, honestly, demand

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<v Speaker 1>the truth from people in authority position. Um, don't be

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<v Speaker 1>fearful of losing a job or rub that folks the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong way. The truth that r that's some pause, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>don't rub people the wrong way. Pause. Um, it's some

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<v Speaker 1>folks in trouble. Don't worry about that. Get the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, I gotta realize that. I I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. I'm I'm still feeling my way through where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at right now because I know you can't feel

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<v Speaker 1>you Listen, I'm gonna hang this damn phone, don't get

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<v Speaker 1>oh see, look at you now, you've been asthley. You're

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<v Speaker 1>mad at me for your words anything, I'm gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>mad at you. You know me way better than that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>man like, honestly, that's it. That's it, bro. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to try to um just facilitate the easier versation. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they need to be hard, sometimes they need to be difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they pause, sometimes they need to be Um. You

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta, you gotta just you gotta get to the

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<v Speaker 1>to the bottom of it instead of saying, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>this person writes my check. But you gotta have the

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<v Speaker 1>conversations and you can't. You can't subject yourself to you

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<v Speaker 1>can get fired anyway. They're gonna. I've I've always jeez

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<v Speaker 1>heard me say this, You're gonna get fired. The question

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<v Speaker 1>is when you're sitting alone after you're fired, you have

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<v Speaker 1>the question of and the answer, and your body of

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<v Speaker 1>work is the answer because I've heard guys say it,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get fired. So you can't either get fired

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<v Speaker 1>doing it jee way, or you can get fired and

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<v Speaker 1>then wish you would have said something or done some things,

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<v Speaker 1>a non regrettable way of living, but not yoloing right,

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<v Speaker 1>not not not risking everything. Yeah, but but there's the

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<v Speaker 1>question is right and not trying to question individuals men

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<v Speaker 1>or women. Do you really know your authentic self? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I know my authentic self. However, I would go back

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe tweak how I articulated my authentic self, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>taking maybe taken away, maybe taking away a few cuss

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<v Speaker 1>words here and there. And if you backhands shining, I

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<v Speaker 1>think as long as you can look at it in

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<v Speaker 1>and will you slap somebody though that that's more than hindsight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just a little bit of regret. I'm just being

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<v Speaker 1>honest out a back hand if you brother time, but

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<v Speaker 1>I wish everybody didn't go to the to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the lengths that you win. I understand, I understand, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, like, but you acknowledge it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's so, that's the that's yes. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't technically unsolicitedy they asked I gave, so I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was Christmas. You know sometimes it's Christmas. Shall

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<v Speaker 1>receive that cup back canneth over, man, I feel you, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think a lot of times, man, where we

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<v Speaker 1>at and honestly like, for as much as I like

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<v Speaker 1>speak out about stuff, also be trying to meet people

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<v Speaker 1>where they are, like that's that's a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>it because you realize, like as a man sitting here

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<v Speaker 1>with a fifteen and thirteen, and the nine year old

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<v Speaker 1>obviously wouldn't do the same things I did when I

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<v Speaker 1>was twenty four. Hop yeah, right, hope not because you

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<v Speaker 1>do got something I trying to steal a um, but

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, man, I just think I think if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and and to your points to me, I like what

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<v Speaker 1>you said not regrettable because that's where you were at

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<v Speaker 1>that time, But you also need to be mature enough

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<v Speaker 1>and smart enough to have a different perspective years later

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<v Speaker 1>and say, you know what, I should have did that

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<v Speaker 1>different or if I would have been where I am now,

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<v Speaker 1>I would have handled that differently. The one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>tell people, man, I'm not going to compromise on truth

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<v Speaker 1>to me, like, you're not gonna get me in the

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<v Speaker 1>room and get me to say something about Smitty and

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<v Speaker 1>then go in another room and have a different story.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're my guy, you my guy in the White House,

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<v Speaker 1>you my guy in your house, you're my guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm around some people you don't like you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So I think that's you know, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably to get back to the question you asked,

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<v Speaker 1>I would probably just have really more conversations that that

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<v Speaker 1>aired on the side of edgy and hoping that the

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<v Speaker 1>person that I'm talking to realize where I'm coming from,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to getting emotional about it and saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't deal with this, dude. Yeah, yeah, the emotional

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<v Speaker 1>the emotional part of us as athletes becomes lazy. And

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that's where the confrontation comes. And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I have to I have to use my own internal

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<v Speaker 1>measuring stick of myself to say, am I being emotionally

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<v Speaker 1>lazy and allowing someone to kind of get under my skin?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I go I go in on them, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I make it personal, and and and and then

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<v Speaker 1>you happen to do it on television, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes it becomes you're racist or you have and I

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<v Speaker 1>and I and I find it interested in us doing television.

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<v Speaker 1>The Young Cats calls lazy the Young Cats talking about shade.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, Young Punk, you gotta understand that the

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<v Speaker 1>oak tree we are playing, you know, double digit years

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, that has to have some good deep roots.

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<v Speaker 1>You used talking about we're throwing shade. You forget, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this oak tree is allowing you to be under this shade.

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<v Speaker 1>We're watching film to knowing and and build our opinion

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<v Speaker 1>about your game. Now, I tried not to do with

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other guys, and I experienced, well, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't depend on the thirty seven year old. Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>that thirty seven year old is really really good, that's

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<v Speaker 1>h that that's the that's the young boy's fault. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's production and his fault. That guy gave him something

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty seven that he didn't give some of these

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven year olds. Right, However, right, I look at

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<v Speaker 1>the A. J. Brown thing right now, he keeps constantly

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<v Speaker 1>going against the Tennessee Titan fans and just come out

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<v Speaker 1>saying Tyreek Hill, Cheetah, come out. It ain't no way.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know to h I'm gonna just be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing about two A currently right now that I've

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<v Speaker 1>that has brought me to to the conclusion to go

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<v Speaker 1>watch how accurate, inaccurate, how good? How bad? Two is?

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<v Speaker 1>Two is? Two is like that. They're not a sponsor,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can said to us, like Arby's right, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know if Arby's has a, I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a has a. Good men you're bad because I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't look at Arby's as a destination for me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not the way you stop them go but them

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<v Speaker 1>curly fries, fire as hell facts, now some good sandwiches. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I just ye, you just we ain't going there first too,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not on there. And so two is coach McDaniels

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to what he's gonna do, interested to see Cheetah.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Mike Kasecki gonna continue to dominate because he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>look dominant coming out in his rookie year under a

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<v Speaker 1>uh them gaze. However a lot of people did I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but I just got to show him that

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<v Speaker 1>my my, my football accurate. But too is not this

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<v Speaker 1>player that I'm going And I wonder if he's accurate

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<v Speaker 1>or not. You know how, you know how when you

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<v Speaker 1>was you know how, you was in school and used

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<v Speaker 1>to get your report card and you were scared because

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<v Speaker 1>it's aid n A and then you had all the

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<v Speaker 1>other grades. You thought the NA meant fl You thought

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<v Speaker 1>it meant that because we was dumb, We was young, numb,

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<v Speaker 1>and we was like, if the teacher don't give us

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<v Speaker 1>a grade, we must be failing. Um, that's tour to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not gonna get it. Excited about man Tyrek

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<v Speaker 1>the practice with tour for six minutes, like to draw

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<v Speaker 1>these conclusions and put it out there in the public forum.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope his mentality is big enup my teammate and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to build some confidence. He's trying to build some confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also trying to build up a podcast. He's also

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do this. He's trying to do. But one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that I heard that was extremely interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to me, and I've been holding this too, is people

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<v Speaker 1>are talking about his Hall of Fame legacy because of

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<v Speaker 1>how early, how much success he had and now that

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<v Speaker 1>the I would say, the sour taste of leaving a

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<v Speaker 1>good team for more money, but then all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden coming out and then finding out which I already

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<v Speaker 1>knew that the Chiefs actually offered him more money. However

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<v Speaker 1>they the the way it was structured was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different for a guy who's in his late twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll just say this constructively. I like Cheetah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's a fantastic football player. However, when I look

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<v Speaker 1>at his game, he doesn't have the pH D and

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<v Speaker 1>route running. Yeah, he runs a lot of uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>runs a lot of crayon routes, be fast. What do

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<v Speaker 1>I mean by that? It shot threw that up there

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<v Speaker 1>hoping you dunk it. I love you when you could

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<v Speaker 1>dunk g um. I'm not That's what I'm here. What

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<v Speaker 1>I mean by creon routes says they, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>real route runner can connect the dotss angle science, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>science mathematics, being able to run the post corner and

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<v Speaker 1>and stop on a dime and get you change. Cheetah

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<v Speaker 1>stop on Cheeta will stop on several domes, but it

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<v Speaker 1>may not be a change and maybe a dollar just

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<v Speaker 1>because he and he doesn't catch the ball when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Hall of Fame, he doesn't catch the ball

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the way of a receiver that's on

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<v Speaker 1>his way to the Hall of Fame like a life

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<v Speaker 1>fish geral. He has amazing runs, he does not have

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<v Speaker 1>amazing catches. Well, let me tell you this, bro, you

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<v Speaker 1>can speak to that. As far as Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>the way my NFL career countless set up, I ain't

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<v Speaker 1>really I don't really know about all that. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just mean this is if I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear somebody critique it is you. I just I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not on him. I'm not. He's a hell of

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<v Speaker 1>a player, but to move on for a couple of millions,

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<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars when you're at a place where playing

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<v Speaker 1>in Kansas City actually long term you can make more

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<v Speaker 1>money because I don't see Miami planning deep into January February.

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<v Speaker 1>Good point, right, he is on South Beach though, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not that's not that's not like, get rid of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cold as hell and can't see that. Listen, man,

0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.119
<v Speaker 1>but you know, you know it's not cold. You know

0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:55.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not. It's always a good temperature. And now on

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<v Speaker 1>who you are, you might have a checking in the

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<v Speaker 1>savings and days it might. It just kind of depends.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'll tell I'll tell him. I want them to

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<v Speaker 1>cash and then deposit. Mind. I don't don't put no

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<v Speaker 1>hole on my money. It's mine. I love cut to

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<v Speaker 1>It and I love it even more when you download

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<v Speaker 1>us and subscribe and you can follow us on social

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<v Speaker 1>media too, Smithy where where at? That's at? Cut to

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<v Speaker 1>It on Instagram? What about Twitter? At cut to It? Facebook?

0:18:28.359 --> 0:18:31.720
<v Speaker 1>Cut to It featuring Steve Smith Singer, what about online?

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<v Speaker 1>Dot com where you can buy merch and you can

0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.320
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to us wherever you listen to podcasts. I got

0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:44.800
<v Speaker 1>all my answers questions. Um, yeah, I got all my

0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.440
<v Speaker 1>questions answered. That's what I'm here for. A brother cut

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<v Speaker 1>to a podcast dot com Like, I understand what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Smithy about Tyrek. Um, I think too, man. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing about when you went let's say, when you

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<v Speaker 1>went to the raven right, because he was a free agent. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. You went to the Ravens, but

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<v Speaker 1>but you balled. Yeah, Like that's really what it boiled

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<v Speaker 1>down to. Tarik will be fine, probably getting in the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame if he go do his thing. What

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want the conversation to become just thinking everything

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<v Speaker 1>around you was the reason you was like you were.

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<v Speaker 1>That's and that's what I'm trying to say a little bit, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think everything around him, However, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe he grew because of everything around him. He

0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:38.320
<v Speaker 1>was successful, successful because of everything around it. Because when

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<v Speaker 1>you have bad quarterback play, bad bad quarterback play, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a bad circuit breaker. You can have you can

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<v Speaker 1>have the top of the line RENEI tankless water heater,

0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:57.760
<v Speaker 1>the best of the best air condition. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>got a circuit breaker that's built in the nineteen eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>this this new technology is pop pop. It's just not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work. It's gonna work just for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And then so does it get too hot like it

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<v Speaker 1>is right now? Right now you got the house fan going,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's pointing outside the window because you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get the hot air out, or you got the house

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<v Speaker 1>fan with the bowl of water underneath. That's say they're

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to who being polled before. But here's the problem

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<v Speaker 1>I have. It never worked. It was still hot air

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<v Speaker 1>like it's sticking to the plastic. Stop moving, and then

0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.440
<v Speaker 1>your grandma still make you sleep with that hot that's

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<v Speaker 1>comforted on her bid. Grandma weighed it weighed like forty pounds.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the regular house, grandma? Why they was never hot

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<v Speaker 1>or they had they had great they had great conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what the elements. Here's what I learned as an adult.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I learned as adult. They was hot. They

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<v Speaker 1>just they were not going to turn down. Pride was

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna let you. You're not gonna see me sweat

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<v Speaker 1>and why and why is that? First? I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>get wins. Why is she not? Why was she not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it? You ain't about to drive up mom?

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<v Speaker 1>That was late man, Exactly. It was so many things

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<v Speaker 1>on the list. I my wife grew up with a grandparents, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was I was in She from Detroit, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Detroit, man at a football camp. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was the first opportunity that I had to meet

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<v Speaker 1>her grandmother and grandfather. And we she lived, you know,

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.680
<v Speaker 1>grew up a rough area whatever. So we went to

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<v Speaker 1>the house Smithy. I walked in. It was a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty degree and I told I told, I told

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<v Speaker 1>my wife at the time, girlfriend, I said, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>stay here alone. I was like, I can't stay here alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, we either got to go sit on

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<v Speaker 1>the porch, and I can't. When it's cooler outside, you

0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.399
<v Speaker 1>would rather sit under the shade tree, light up a

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<v Speaker 1>black mouth. And I'm sitting at the dining table talking

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<v Speaker 1>to her grand I am like, bro, like I'm playing

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami at one pm on Sunday in August and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking They're looking at me like something wrong, Like

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<v Speaker 1>something wrong with you? Something wrong with me grandmother probably

0:22:27.720 --> 0:22:35.520
<v Speaker 1>like she's gonna marry this horrible sweat glands. I was

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<v Speaker 1>almost broke up with him. I'll tell you, I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you a bad I'll tell you a quick bad story

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll get into it. Um. Well, the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I took my parents, my uh my kids to

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<v Speaker 1>my grand grandma and grandpa house. Right, And this was

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<v Speaker 1>like two thousand and thirteen, like right after the Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl show. You know, we're living were living high the

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<v Speaker 1>hog right. Bailey, my daughter, she's uh what I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Bailey baby was like two or three. Peyton was seven

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<v Speaker 1>or eight, right, I'm but I remember. And we went

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<v Speaker 1>over there and had to use uh, I had to

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<v Speaker 1>use the bathroom. And my wife we had been married

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<v Speaker 1>like to two years, two or three years, four years,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had been over there, but it was all

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<v Speaker 1>in passing. It was never like at a long period

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<v Speaker 1>of time to where she had to use the bathroom. Oh. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the kids had to use the bathroom. And

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<v Speaker 1>they went to the bathroom. My wife came back said, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I flushed the doll. I said, oh, let me come

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<v Speaker 1>show you. No, No, this is when we you where

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<v Speaker 1>you wash your hands or there was a leaky falls

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:53.879
<v Speaker 1>and underneath had the bucket and had to rinse it

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<v Speaker 1>and uh oh. I looked at me and she was

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, so to me. About three months later,

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the car and Peyton, who's brilliant, my oldest,

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:12.359
<v Speaker 1>he's super duper smart, Um says Daddy, this looks like

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.000
<v Speaker 1>grandma's house. I said, what do you mean. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>look like but we're watching TV. We're watching national geographics,

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<v Speaker 1>We're watching something that's shows like kind of a third

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:31.720
<v Speaker 1>third World country shanties. He goes, yeah, grandma, your grandma's

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 1>house looked like shanty. I looked at him and I said, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how Daddy left. I said, if you don't go

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<v Speaker 1>to school, that's how you're gonna. But it was just

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:47.159
<v Speaker 1>the connecting of the dots, right, the idea. They had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea. Remember the TV and you got you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta change the channel on the floor model TV

0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 1>with the plyers because you lost the cap off the

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:57.880
<v Speaker 1>and we didn't have that. We didn't Our TV wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that big. We had a smaller TV on the on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the floor. Oh yeah, that's when you upgrade.

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<v Speaker 1>That was then for as much as for as much

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<v Speaker 1>as like being poor. Like when you get older, you

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you look into it. Man, I had fun. You had

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.320
<v Speaker 1>so much fun when we were broken. Yeah, Rich ain't

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<v Speaker 1>all that fun all the time. I disagree, and I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't that. I ain't smith. You know, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna ever tell anybody like I love I

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<v Speaker 1>love the conveniences. Yeah, I agree, right, but but I

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<v Speaker 1>do disagree. Rich different riches compared to being poor. Oh yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean in context, I'm talking about full contact. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about full contact and like I had to watch

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<v Speaker 1>my clothes. It's just a lot of little things. I

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>saw my I saw my family every day. We was tight.

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<v Speaker 1>Like now I gotta fly people in and they expect

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<v Speaker 1>me to like. So that's that's kind of stuff I'm

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about. You. I don't want to be far enough though.

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<v Speaker 1>See me for being California living North Carolina. That was serious.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to get on that. All right. Let's

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 1>get into it, man, we we talked ball. Let's get

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 1>into it. Man. Where are you from the place you

0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:12.040
<v Speaker 1>call your hometown from? Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Man South bed

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Rouge grew up born and raised UM raised in a

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<v Speaker 1>single parent I was hold with my mom, but my

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 1>dad was very involved, not the not the old conventional dad.

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>They wasn't nowhere around. My pops played a big role

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, especially when it kind of sports man.

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<v Speaker 1>He kind of you know, he was that he was

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 1>that authority figured but also like the teacher. UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was the nurturer obviously, and and I lived

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<v Speaker 1>with her all the way up until eighth grade. Ninth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>I moved with my dad. My mom felt like you

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<v Speaker 1>need a male presents day and day out in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Moved with him. Went to high school. UM had went

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<v Speaker 1>to Southern University Lab School, so I grew up on

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<v Speaker 1>the hbc U campus. UM so that I was almost

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<v Speaker 1>like in a Richmond program in high school. Well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>now it was so liaboratory schools is high schools that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the teachers that graduate from that particular college,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll come and do their teaching like to get in

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<v Speaker 1>and then I mean you got veteran teachers as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But but it's it's a part of the university system

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 1>of Southern University. And UM it was a great experience. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Predominantly like nine point nine percent black. We had one

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 1>white dude that na't Christopher Osencoff, who was exchange to

0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>that became our kicker, and he was phenomenal. I think

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>it kicked like on the year from I think from Russia.

0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it was from Russia. Um culture shot coach. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you what else black women look like that?

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<v Speaker 1>But he found out. He found out quick like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he went from Cappuccino. Then it's funny. It's funny man

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<v Speaker 1>because because we keep it touch me and Chris Keven

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 1>touch over Facebook. Um. But anyway, yeah, he went back,

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Um married, I think he got one or two kids. Um,

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 1>but we keep it in passing. Man. Huh did he

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 1>marry sister? I don't think so, but I'm sure if

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>he would have stayed here, you just you probably well.

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:29.119
<v Speaker 1>But now, man, Um, it was a great experience road

0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:30.719
<v Speaker 1>because I got both sides. And then when I went

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>to college, obviously L s U being predominantly white and

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>a funny story man, like growing up in bad Ruge,

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 1>where I was from, I didn't I never have been

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>on l s U campus and it was literally ten

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes away from where I grew up. But that

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>was such a far like I thought that you could

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 1>even go there, um because I not understanding the concept

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>of football and recruiting and all of that stuff. But

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>man at Ruge was good to me. Man Um, I

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>learned a lot growing up in the South. You know,

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>you experienced the unfortunately ugly face the racism at times,

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>but for the most part, man I had a great

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>time um and and and to just learned a lot

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>of lessons on how to like navigate through through different situations.

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Grew up in a like a family that you know,

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>cousins and uncles and in and out of prison. Some

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>did very well, uh, taking care of their family. So

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I saw, I saw it all. But ultimately, bro like

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 1>growing up in Baton Rouge, you get you get this

0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>idea that you want to become a big fish in

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that little pond, and you like, all right, let me

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>let me it's two things you usually do. You usually

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>go work at the chemical playing the next on and

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>you worked there for the next thirty five for the

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 1>years you retire, and then that generation and cycle continues.

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>A lot of really good athletes come out of Louisiana.

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>So football is always something that's you know, big and

0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>getting getting us opportunities to go outside of the city.

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>So for me, that's what I saw um and I

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to I wanted to play ball. I grew

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>up doing it. My sister is actually my sports hero.

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>She was a hooper, one of the top female basketball

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 1>players in the country. So she motivated me a lot

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to play basket sports. What what what position did you

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>play in basketball as a young fella? Because you're, as

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 1>we call you, big boneded Now I've been bon I

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>know the three. I was young, I was young, I

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>was young Barkley. Oh, okay, slew foot in Barkley or

0:30:34.440 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>good foot in Barkley. I just don't don't get on

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the acting right now. No, I've heard you. The reason

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I asked this question is because when I go back

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 1>at my memory, brank of the truth. I was a

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>terrible basketball player, right aggressive you found too much. Actually,

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I grew up in that showtime. So I storing a

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>hundred mile hour passage. I'm trying to damn take something

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>over that r I'm over there, no look right in

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the face. So I was the just messing up. I'm

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>just trying to I'm trying to the combination of love.

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 1>John Stockton, but idolize Magic Johnson. But the Clippers was

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>my team and they sucked, So I was confused. I

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 1>was confused. My whole basketball ideology was as backwards as

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>you would say. I just didn't have man Annoy Benjamin

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Danny Manny Showtime and John Stockton just confused. Hit the wrong.

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:47.480
<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't even looking at the right place. You wouldn't

0:31:47.480 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>even looking at the right trying to hook I try

0:31:53.920 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>to get No, don't, don't slight me. I was about problem.

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I was about five five and had a gross spurt

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>to five nine. I was it. I got there. You

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>probably should have been looking at John Sto. That's what

0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I was right. Even got we posted on social media

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>my muggy bowl had a muggall. You ain't had on malone.

0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>That was a problem. I really don't like the blame.

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 1>You ain't hand on malone, not alone. You don't went

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>to the league. Listen, even if I had him alone,

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the way I was past the ball, Hell, he wasn't

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna catch it anyway I was. I was out there throwing.

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:33.480
<v Speaker 1>He said, I was out there throwing my homes. Yeah,

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you didn't go to You didn't go to football coach.

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>The basketball coach said, you ain't make it. No you

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.479
<v Speaker 1>get you didn't get some of that aggressive this out

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>of you football. It worked out a little bit. Cut away, cut,

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>let's getting down to do. Hey Gerard, why did you

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>get that T shirt? You mean this thing? Oh? Yes,

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I got it from Cut to a podcast dot com

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>where we have a school usive merchandise. Shout out to

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>our guys at seven or four shot. But yeah, you

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>can go on, buy you a T shirt, subscribe to

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>us wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey Marcus, With all

0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>those things that you mentioned before of growing up in

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>the South, and you know, all the things that you learned,

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 1>what was difficult, and then the things that you love.

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Of all those things, what are you most proud of

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>growing up in the South? Um? My family, man, like

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, as the narratives pissed me off

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot because, like I said about my mom and

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>dad divorced but very active. Um, all my all my

0:33:37.280 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 1>knowledge and wisdom comes from my grandmother and my uncle's

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>even the ones that that didn't do the right thing

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>all the time looking out community. Um, you know me

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and I just I'm so proud of of like my

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>parents experienced racism, they experienced m being marginalized and all that,

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>but they never gave me that out. Like they never

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>gave me that out like don't don't don't go into

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>light thinking that you're starting from behind. Um, don't don't

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>have this anger or it's vendetta against people until you

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>get to know their character, no matter if they're white

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:17.080
<v Speaker 1>or black. And um, I think that's what I'm most

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 1>proud of, bro, because when I when I actually got

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>into the real world as a young adult, I wasn't

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.239
<v Speaker 1>naive to the things that that that go on, but

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:30.279
<v Speaker 1>also was like, man, I'm gonna give every person grace

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:32.919
<v Speaker 1>until they showed me who they are. And I live

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>by that, like even til the day. I live by like,

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna I'm not prejudging anybody based on anything,

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 1>but as soon as you show me who you are,

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm either fade away or we can rock or we

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 1>just acquaintances and we run into each other once in

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>a while. So I think the perspective that they gave me, man,

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>just just not being and looked still explained to me

0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>difficulties and stuff that I was gonna have to face.

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I had to when the police pull you all we're

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>talk I had the white people stare at you when

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you in department stores. Um, you know, always be visible

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.879
<v Speaker 1>all of that. Like I was conscious of that. Um.

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately I gotta teach my son that. But but ultimately,

0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.280
<v Speaker 1>my parents never gave me an out. My grandmother, grandfather

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:21.080
<v Speaker 1>never gave me an out. Um, my uncle's you know,

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>even the ones that I talked to from prison, even

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the ones that we're doing well, never like, look, man, like,

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>whatever you wanna get accomplished in this life, even though

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 1>being black may make it a little bit more difficult

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 1>or a lot more difficult, if you get after it,

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you can get it done. Um. And that's why, man,

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I that's why, honestly, like what I'm doing now, I

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 1>refused to be different than than the person that I've

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:48.719
<v Speaker 1>been before I've been on TV, and I think that's

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:51.440
<v Speaker 1>what I'm proud of. Bro. Every everybody that I talked to,

0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>all of my boys, all of my friends, UM, they

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about authenticity because they know me. They like, oh,

0:35:58.280 --> 0:35:59.719
<v Speaker 1>you'd be saying the same thing when we're in the

0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 1>liberal room clicking out. And I just want to keep

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>that man. And I'm a rid it roder pause, I'm

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>a ride away. What is something that you enjoy the

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>most doing television right now? Um? Probably the dialogue between players,

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 1>man um, even when it's not like even when you're

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>going after each other, different opinions, like it's important, it's

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, fans sometimes don't really understand the different when

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 1>people have various opinions. They think that it's a it's

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's staged, or that you guys are have a

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>personal thing. It's the personal things on television is based

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>off what is said privately and then it's switched up publicly.

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:03.000
<v Speaker 1>But that's what get that side or you know, you

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of look at your your teammate in a different light, right,

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I feel you on that man, because you're not name

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>calling or or name dropping anybody. But it's there's so

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:18.759
<v Speaker 1>many production meetings, there's so many emails that go go

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>on that people are asking us, what do you want

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:25.680
<v Speaker 1>to talk about? How did what's your perspective? What's your

0:37:25.719 --> 0:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>point of view? And then you'll say, I'll give me.

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, at some point, I'm gonna have the Miami

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 1>game and someone's gonna ask me, right, well, what do

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 1>you think? What what was your performance to its performance.

0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>What did you think if he comes out of there

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 1>and just throws for ten for twelve five yards. I'm no,

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't have an opinion because that's not that's not

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not opinion worth. Like if you're telling me you're

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna take the first overall pick and he you limit

0:37:56.080 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 1>his throws and he barely gets past a hun and

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>you have all this firepower and these thorough breads out

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>on the team. Offensively, defensively, you got offensive gurru and

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:17.800
<v Speaker 1>you're out here having pedestrian like passes. Yeah, I have

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>no opinion. Yeah it's mean, I think too. Man like you,

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:25.399
<v Speaker 1>you bring up a good point, bro, an opinion, that's

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>not bigging up or or praising the guy. Ain't hating.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I hate that so much now, man like, bro, listen,

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>I get dudes like you know, first of all, you

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>gain respect the players. It's different from me and you like.

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 1>The reality is when you walk in facilities and teams,

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>everybody know who you are, They know your body and

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>work for me. I gotta like, I gotta my my

0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:53.120
<v Speaker 1>honesty is gonna continue to have dudes respect me, right

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 1>because you you look up, you look up stat lions

0:38:57.040 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>or you say why this guy talking about a dude

0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 1>a bad and he only got ten sacks in his career.

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And you know all of that stuff, bro, Like I

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>didn't put it in way more than ten thousand hours

0:39:08.880 --> 0:39:14.959
<v Speaker 1>of football film notes looking at it, and you also

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:19.520
<v Speaker 1>understand Like for you and and and and me and

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:22.000
<v Speaker 1>guys in media, bro, I think it's important not only

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>for us to respect these young cats and what they're doing,

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:26.800
<v Speaker 1>because we know how difficult it is, even though it

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.360
<v Speaker 1>may not be as much as as difficult as it

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 1>was when we was playing. We get acknowledged that. But

0:39:32.360 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>it don't need to be You don't need to be

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 1>here not all great, right, Like, That's the only thing

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>I struggle with is I'm very particular, and I will

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:46.800
<v Speaker 1>tell anybody I'm working with, don't say he's great. No,

0:39:47.840 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>third fourth year in the league, he can't be great.

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>So how do both for this question? For both of you?

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.479
<v Speaker 1>Markets with your knowledge you know, playing on defensive, lind

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Steve with your knowledge playing receiver, and your overall like

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:03.880
<v Speaker 1>like you said, your overall knowledge of football, putting in

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 1>more than ten thousand that was worth of work. How

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.600
<v Speaker 1>do you how do you balance when you are honest

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>about a guy with bearing the line of and not

0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that you care, but the flat being oh that type

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:19.479
<v Speaker 1>like you literally just broke down tyreck Hills game. Whether

0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 1>it is his route running or whether it is the

0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 1>way that he catches the ball some woman here, I'm

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>not saying this Tyreko someone. He may when we run this,

0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 1>he may reply. But here, but here's why though. When

0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I look at his HIGHLIGHTSNSE it's on ESPNFL network, he's

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>catching the ball with his chest right, he's hopping and

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and and the reason I know he's doing that. And

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.239
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I feel like you're uncomfortable catching ball in your hands,

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:46.480
<v Speaker 1>because I've done it. There's times I've caught the ball

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>in my chest because I've been uncomfortable. I've been unsure.

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:51.839
<v Speaker 1>I haven't got a lot of passes, and I know, okay,

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>this is my We've had ten plays. Is the first

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 1>or second pass thrown to me? If I trick this off,

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I may not get a pass again. So I gotta

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>make sure. Or I've been sitting around, I'm so cold,

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I ain't really got I ain't got that yet, right,

0:41:07.400 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 1>So whether that so, whether that criticism is constructive non

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<v Speaker 1>constructive for me? What do I do is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things I try to do is I'll drop a

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<v Speaker 1>little nuggets in front of the wife and depending on

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<v Speaker 1>how her face looks, let's me know that's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit too harsh, right, She'll be like right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'll try to do that. Or I'll say something to

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<v Speaker 1>my boys, what you think, dad, you being a hater?

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<v Speaker 1>Because my boys are old enough as millennials they consumed

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<v Speaker 1>it like, all Dad, you're a hater, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I would do that. The other part that I do is,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not afraid, man, I've called Willie mac Willie McGuinness, Hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the TV start? Explain this to me? Right? So

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried to. I am a wide receiver. But what

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<v Speaker 1>I do not like my producer choosed to do, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've gave me the autonomy not to is I've learned

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<v Speaker 1>and I have information that helps me understand what the

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<v Speaker 1>defenses are doing, what the linebackers are will Dog Blitz

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<v Speaker 1>of Mike Blitz, uh, you know, Ricky, oh my hall, Lucy,

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<v Speaker 1>all the different lingos that have changed that I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>top of it. Pause to understand that I can understand.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I'm talking and watching the game, letting the

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<v Speaker 1>game talk to me and let me create my opinion

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<v Speaker 1>to where I know what's going on. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>and I used the word humble, now, I humble myself

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<v Speaker 1>because you're not in humbling myself. Meaning if I call

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<v Speaker 1>someone that has played the defensive position that I don't,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to one, I have to give them

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<v Speaker 1>the respect to say, hey, I don't know everything, so

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<v Speaker 1>can you teach me. I've called Joe Thomas a few

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<v Speaker 1>times and what's what's a what's the wrong arm? Like

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<v Speaker 1>when the defensive end ord tackle wrongs on when they

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<v Speaker 1>do this t e stuff and they're wrong garm? What

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean? Actually? Like they got two arms? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean they used the wrong arm? Well, he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>when you take on the block away, when you take

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<v Speaker 1>on the block inside versus when you're supposed to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the integrity of of the run stop of the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>and so understanding that him and they're giving me that

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<v Speaker 1>information and then me utilizing it and they're not taking

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<v Speaker 1>and but also taking this opportunity now to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I've called other coworkers and they schooled me and helped

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<v Speaker 1>me because I know I personally cannot sit on television

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<v Speaker 1>without the ten thousand square foot view from another defensive player,

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to be so well rounded when I

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<v Speaker 1>talk on television that I'm not talking out of my

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<v Speaker 1>out of my butt, but I'm talking the same way,

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<v Speaker 1>out of the knowledge of the game, because I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>air Quotes Register resident expert, and so I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be the resident wide receiver expert like Dan on

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<v Speaker 1>what you guys, He's always talking about quarterbacks and I've

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<v Speaker 1>called myself. I looked up there in stats, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one. But the other thing, even though Dan was

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<v Speaker 1>not a bona fide stellar quarterback, he does also know

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<v Speaker 1>how a quarterback should look, what the how the eyes

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<v Speaker 1>of the quarterback should look, how is body should look.

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<v Speaker 1>So I even watch other networks, not to steal, but

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<v Speaker 1>to gain some knowledge to look at and go how

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<v Speaker 1>can I apply this? How is this applicable to advancing

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<v Speaker 1>my knowledge of the game as an analyst versus me

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<v Speaker 1>just saying that player can't play or he ain't no

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<v Speaker 1>good right right, we can acknowledge like when somebody play bad,

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<v Speaker 1>but we what we what we should stay away from,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, is making that they overall arching um

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<v Speaker 1>dukie career or like you play pro football. The dudes

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<v Speaker 1>across the line of scrimmage are really really good. Not

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<v Speaker 1>there are some guys who are Yeah, I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have bad outings because let's let's let's come

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<v Speaker 1>on now, let's be on there. There are some guys

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<v Speaker 1>who have been with the same coach or the specially

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<v Speaker 1>coach because they trust them, because they got their back,

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't the best of the best. There are some

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<v Speaker 1>guys who are we know what we know, dudes slide through.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm just talking about overall in the National Football

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<v Speaker 1>League or the NBA. The dude that never played gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get your thirty at the Rex stup, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm say, And he got crossed over by a few

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<v Speaker 1>of those dudes in the rec center. So it's for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's context, man. I think what Smith just said. It

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<v Speaker 1>is important man being being able to humble yourself. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>my uncle Phield used to tell me literally, I got

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<v Speaker 1>an uncle nay Field, Philip Spears, and my grandfather's brother.

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<v Speaker 1>You just tell me all the time, the smartest man

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<v Speaker 1>in the world know what they don't know, like and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be you can't be um so immature and

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<v Speaker 1>not to not acknowledge that you are a unique person.

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