WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Great Insight 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:07.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:08.960 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:12.080 Cowboys. 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:19.200 This is nick Shots, streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:23.520 and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:29.400 Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.279 We really need a victory tune here to kickoff this week. Here, 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.879 it's the month of June, and that means that training 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:42.600 camp is next month. Football season starts next months. We 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:47.879 kickoff June. That's right, and uh, this is mickshots, and 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:52.480 it's gonna be about the hottest day going this off 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.920 Season's up over ninety degrees today. I just looked ahead. 0:00:57.240 --> 0:00:57.920 They got. 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.320 Volunteer are OTAs this week, mandatory mini camp next week, 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:06.319 and in the long range forecast, I just looked at 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.240 most of the temperatures on days they'll be working out 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:11.480 will be less than ninety degrees the rest of the way. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:13.440 So here it is, this is the day you whip 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:14.960 them into shape for training camp. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.400 Important day, that's right, that's so important. 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:23.400 Make them that's right before we do anything else. A 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:28.200 shout out to producer Supreme Chris Beam, the coach of 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:34.880 the Consolation champion eight and Under baseball team, his son 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:39.920 logan one of the star players on that logan And uh, 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.720 what's the name of that team, Producer Supreme, It's the 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.640 wolf Pack. The wolf Pack. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:45.000 Yeah. 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:50.480 When the consolation Championship eight and Under baseball, congratulations. 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:56.040 Crucial moments where the coach Chris Beam also coach Supreme, 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:00.080 I'm sure you made some very critical moves do in 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:00.559 the game. 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:03.640 Are you the third base coach? Actually, Bill, you know, 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.800 I am. I figured going you wave them with that window. 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.760 One guy was one guy was the third base coach. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.440 I'm like that you ain't cutting it to make sure 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:14.920 the umpire sends them back. 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.960 That's your goal, right right? 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.359 Hey, that was that was the crucial moment. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.480 That that moment right there, that's when you guys want. 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.560 Well the final score of that championship game, which we 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:29.880 were playing in an inferior opponent actually twenty to five. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.920 All right, hey, well that's of course it was in 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.200 it for your buddy. You're in the consolation bracket. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:39.160 Well, I was totally. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:40.120 They were. 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.400 They were the fourth place overall team, so they were 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:44.519 actually pretty good and they just did not come to 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:44.919 play that. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:46.240 Well, what were you guys ranked? 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.840 We're like seven or eight, so we want every upset. 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:54.080 Yeah, yeah, we were the visitors, so very good. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.880 All right, well congratulations. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:57.920 Yeah, hey they used to and he gets come to 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.360 work with me today, isn't that great? 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:05.160 All right, very good. We expect pictures at by the 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:06.720 end of the show. You got an hour to come 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:07.960 up with some pictures for us. 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:10.760 Okay, I mean they used to play the third not 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:15.120 not of yourself, used to play in the NCAA tournament. 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:16.960 Remember the third place game. 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:18.680 I don't remember that. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:20.600 But like that, this is like the n I T 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.360 the two games you go to the final four, and 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.080 the two teams that lost played in the n I T. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.720 No nca tournament, I remember it. In the United game 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.679 no basketball basketball. Well, they used to play the playoff ball. 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.960 The Cowboys played in the nineteen sixty five playoff ball 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:42.480 that was which was a consolation when in nineteen sixty 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.120 five the last game of the year. If you look 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.200 at the media, guys, the playoff ball, I think it 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:53.720 was against Baltimore. You willing that day? Yeah right, but 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:58.560 the season was over and I guess Cowboys whoever they 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.520 lost to that year, I think it was sixty five seasons. 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.280 Because somebody tried to mention that that was their first playoff. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.800 It's like, no, that was, and so there was like 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.480 a consolation bowl game. Of course, you think about the 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.320 concept of college ball games and stuff, and so actually 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.920 college football was more popular than professional football back then. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:22.120 And so okay, we'll go to a ball game show. Yeah, 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:22.960 that's right. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:28.640 You mean you didn't go to it. That's seven and 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:29.840 seventh season. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:34.440 So all right, so here we are, Well, you got 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:39.080 there's one. We'll spend a bulk of this show talking 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.560 about what happened on Friday as well. Start, because Everson 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:46.040 Walls was a part of it, and it was a 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:50.839 big day here behind the scenes because former players like 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.200 Everson Walls were in the house, not just for a 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.800 little bit, but the opportunity to spend the day here 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:57.720 exactly right. 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:03.159 Yeah, And when I first saw the schedule, I was like, God, damn, it's. 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:03.720 A long day. 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:08.040 You know that itinerary for you tinerary. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:08.680 Uh. 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.800 It felt like we were part of the team and 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.320 you know that was the feeld that they went for 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:15.680 and that was the field that we got. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.880 Give us how I did first on who always here? 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:28.240 Ah Man Tony Dor said Randy White, Drew Pearson, Timmy Newsom, Uh. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:31.800 Who else? Michael Levan was who's that Bob Lily Lily Man? 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:37.240 Yeah, Randy, Randy, Randy brought Bob with him. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.640 That was pretty cool. But you know, just think about 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:40.520 that right to the point. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.200 Then he then he drove him home and came back 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:46.120 by the Wow Randy. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:50.360 Did almost Hollywood Henderson, I saw that crazy crazy, He's 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:51.240 lost a lot of way. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:51.760 It looks good. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.000 Hailey was here, of course. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.040 Dressed better than I've ever seen him in. 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:57.560 Yes, what was the deal? 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:58.840 I don't know, man, it was scary. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:02.080 Uh never suit, but he did. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.920 Yeah, he did even long pants. 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.560 Yeah he yeah, and he was like walking upright, it 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:08.120 was crazy. 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:14.440 I saw Brady James, rocket Ishmael, George Tige was here 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:20.480 and uh Camps was here, Dave, Dave Campo, Fitzgerald right, Yes, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:24.400 fitz came in and had a nice talk with him. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:26.320 Yeah, he was. 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.040 He was fired up about it because the last time 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.640 he was here. I took him in the locker room 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.760 and they wanted to chase us off because we were 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:36.240 bothered the players that weren't in there. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:40.000 So about how many total would have been here had. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.880 To be maybe thirty. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.880 Five, okay, and these are guys that they all had 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.480 at least five years or more, Sir. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.159 I did not know that was the criteria at the time. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:55.040 I was calling Doug Donley, you know, White not here. Uh, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:55.600 he didn't know. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:07:00.760 Anything about it, Like, oops, he's only here four years, 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:05.360 well here but Chicago fifth, Yeah, he's got five in yeah, 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:05.919 five in. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:10.320 I'll tell you what he can tell you what happened 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:12.400 in the meetings, but just running. 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:17.760 In tampo, not up and talk of course, right. 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:23.080 Yeah, but they these guys were really fired up about it. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:29.000 And obviously this was you know, Brian Schottenheimer's idea to 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:35.800 reconnect these guys that had success in this franchise with 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:41.000 this current team. Just another step he's taking to uh 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:44.600 not run from the Cowboys history, but embrace it. 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.679 Yeah, I'll throw out some other names. Its a supreme 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.640 just sent me, he said, like Kevin Smith was Vin Smith, 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.840 Larry cole y Man. 0:07:57.880 --> 0:07:59.960 I had a long call Larry. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.320 He always talks all the time. Right, that is cool. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:07.720 I like him. That when who also still cool? 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.960 Yeah, Charlie Williams Charlie. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.240 And you know what the cool thing was is they 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.840 allowed the guy to to bring their families with them, 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.560 like Tony dor Set Anthony was with them. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.200 Uh and Anthony Junior Jr. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:25.640 Yeah, that's right. 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:31.040 Yes, John Fitzgerald had his wife with him, his son, 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:37.640 grand grandchildren. It was it was yeah, it was really 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.079 neat that they got to bring their families along too. 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:44.320 Okay, so tell us that's your generat what you got here. 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:45.040 And then what happened? 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:49.440 Uh, First up, we assembled in the big meeting room. 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:53.200 Uh. Soon as you walk in, there's a basketball goal. 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.880 Yes, this is in the team meeting room or. 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:58.920 Team meeting Okay, team meetings. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.400 And that was weird. So a lot of energy was 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:04.160 in there, guys with. 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.440 And so just former players and current players. 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.360 Well the current players were already in there and sitting 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.880 down and then we came in. A lot of them 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.480 were just kind of content with just end along the 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.880 wall and just checking it out and then they you know, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:20.880 sit down and go and sit down, and you know, 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.120 just a lot of energy in there. Like I said, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.960 so coach was running things. Shot, he was running things 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:33.240 and uh, you know, uh, man, he's energetic, he's energetic, 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.760 at least at that moment. He had the guys in there. 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:41.559 You know, a lot of noise, and they were extremely 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:45.680 receptive doing the you know, shuffling of sitting down and 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.480 everything like that. So everybody made a point to all 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.800 the current players made a point to shake hands with 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:53.120 us that were along the wall. We eventually went and 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:57.600 sat down. A lot of teasing going on. So they 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.600 started off with the shooting contest. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.199 Yeah, that's why, that's why the basketball goals in there. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.040 Well, I think it's been in there. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.800 It's been it's part of the it's a staple. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.199 But well then what I guess that's how they start meetings. 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.400 And so they started with a couple of players and 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.880 Sam Williams if I'm not mistaken, uh, and somebody else 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:21.280 Sam one, if I'm not mistaken. So then they picked 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:29.240 two legends. Okay, it was it was it was the 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.439 linebacker you just called his Namerady James. 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.480 Brady James and Looney Joe Looney. 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.800 Of course is his hair still real? 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.880 Big? Yeah? Man, it was all up. It was all up. Yeah, 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.840 he didn't care. Uh, and Looney won. James was uh. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.760 He shot how many they. 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:53.520 Had some I can't remember how many seconds, maybe in 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:54.240 thirty seconds. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:55.920 How many of you can make in thirty seconds? 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.040 That's what James. He made one at the buzzer. Okay, 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:02.360 yeah he lost, Okay, I totally got them all right, 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:03.760 and go ahead. 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.880 Then uh he called out all our names, which was 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:08.760 very cool. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:09.760 Uh. 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:13.440 And you know, you just don't I think with me 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:18.520 as well as we get so old, do they know us? 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:20.559 You know, you don't. You just don't. 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:25.000 Know a lot of stuff going a lot of stuff 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:25.520 going on. 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.680 If you're on TikTok, they would know you. 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:29.640 Right there you go, and we're not. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:35.160 And so you know, you wonder if they're surprised at 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:39.560 the names, if they recognize anything. Because once we left 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:44.839 there after getting a welcome from us, we we all 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.720 stood up and the guys didn't. 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:49.280 Man, they really did. They gave us a lot of love. Uh. 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:53.280 It wasn't stiff in there at all. And then as 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.200 we broke into the different rooms. 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.160 You went into the physician meeting yes. 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.760 Okay, back in the team in the big team meeting room, 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:05.080 did they go about their normal business that you were 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.920 able to eavesdrop on that? Basically you were able to 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:09.840 you were in on that, and so that was did 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.439 you get the field? This is what they normally do, 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.160 and they go over some of the stuff that they 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:14.720 normally do. 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:19.839 Well, yeah, it was very brief because we were the business. Yeah, 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:22.600 so that that part I was. We were the business. 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.720 And so once he you know, called the names out 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:30.360 and talked to us about uh, you know, teamwork and 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:34.600 things of that nature and how close our era was. 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.600 Uh he you know, got a little emotion about Bob 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:43.439 Lily and uh and and Randy coming. You know, guys, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.360 you know that they's none of the best shape, you know, 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.720 and you know you got that kind of history going 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.480 on right there in front of you, and you know 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.120 they're still like back in the day. So there's you know, 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:57.400 that's the connection that he was saying that was evident here, 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.000 that should be evident everywhere based Yes, yes, the way 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:02.280 I took it, and. 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.840 You know, I don't know, he got a little emotional 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:05.840 at that time. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:11.559 And so some guys stood up and just had statements. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.760 Legends some legends stood up and had statements, and most 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:22.959 of them just talked about what you would do if 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.960 you could talk to yourself when you were back with 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:26.600 the cowboys. 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.600 That was the legends, and that that would be the. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:33.480 What advice would you give your twenty four year old. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:34.600 Which is you. 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.640 That meant that the current players would have to take 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:38.839 also get something from that, you know. 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:40.400 And so yeah, a. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.080 Lot of guys stood up and made some statements and 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.560 things of that nature in that full meeting room. In 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.000 that full meeting room, I believe that was the last 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.920 exercise there after Shotty said some things that we both 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.719 we went into each movie and we also kind of. 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:58.200 Did it again. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.160 We introduced ourselves and those are the ones that didn't 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.240 some didn't like myself. I didn't say anything in the 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:08.120 big one. So now we're in the meeting and we 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:13.520 did the same thing there. Uh, coaches all in that. 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:15.439 I'm so horrible with names. I don't even know the 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.560 d be coaches names. But uh, you can just tell. 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.320 You can tell by the language that they use and 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:27.080 how loosely that they use it that even if you 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:31.680 don't necessarily go out and perform it perfectly, everyone was 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.920 on the same page. That's always good when you go 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.680 into a meeting room and you can see that kind 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:37.600 of connection. 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:38.760 That's always good. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.480 So that means that they have progressed to a point 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.960 to where there's unity. Everyone is in unison in regards 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.720 to what we're talking about here on the board because 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.120 they actually started running the film. 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.400 And of course you got Andre Curtis in that room 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.160 and David Overstreet Junior as well. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.800 Larry Cole told me that when he was in the 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:10.120 position meeting room defensive lineman, so the the defensive line coach, 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:15.480 Aaron Whitecotton had been with the Jets previously and now here, 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.040 uh he said, man, he goes, that guy was impressive, 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.520 and I go, what what stood out? He goes, I 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:29.000 don't know, but he reminded me of Ermie Stutton, and 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:32.440 I'm going, all right, that's quite a compliment, right, you. 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:33.920 Know, when you woke up the Jets, you got some 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.640 old school and you're definitely but I'm sorry I skipped 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:38.280 it like now. 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.320 Of course, once we got in and. 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.400 We introduced ourselves officially one at a time in the 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.080 position room instead if your names is being called out 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.800 by the head coach, that's when we everyone had a 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.720 chance to say something a little bit more intimate in 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.560 the group. And of course I'm the oldest freaking dude 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:56.840 in the room except for Campo. 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.040 But okay, yes, Campa would have gone the secondary. 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:07.920 Yeah yeah, oh no, and so Campa of course he went, uh, 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.120 and I went last, and it felt weird. 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.240 I'm surprised that there was time for you to talk 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:14.640 if Campo man. 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.000 Well, you know what happened. He spoke in the big 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:17.520 meeting room. 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:23.600 Well, and speaking of Campbo, when I was talking to him, 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.160 he said, he said, yeah, he goes. You know, when 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:30.080 I got up to say something, I said, no, check 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:30.600 this out. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:31.160 He goes. 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:35.680 Randy White and Bob Lily. They didn't play with each other, 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:40.680 they weren't teammates, but they hooked together because they were 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:46.080 Dallas cowboys. And he went and picked him up, was 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.680 a parent, yeah, and brought him here and took him 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.760 back home. He goes, that's what teammates do, That's what 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:54.400 guys that are, and. 0:16:54.480 --> 0:17:00.600 That's what got emotional like that. Yeah, he had me food. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.520 I mean, that's we're talking more than fifty years after 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.679 Bob Lily ended his career and seventy four connections, and 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.880 there's the connection, you know, passes the Hall of Fame 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:15.240 baton on Randy White basically, and here we are fifty 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:15.879 years later. 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.680 After I felt I felt funly introducing myself, I really did. 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.480 I don't even I kind of want to over explain 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:24.200 who I was, you know, what I'm saying. 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.080 You should have said, you know, Trayvon Digg isitting here, 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:28.400 He tied me. 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.120 Yeah, should I have to tell him? Should they know? 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.040 I would imagine rookies probably don't know. 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:37.440 Yeah, yeah, yes, you know, so we I just you know, 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:38.360 da I said. 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.080 I think I said something like I got a few 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.320 picks when I was here, and I kept moving on 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.200 because I wanted and I did talk to him about uh, 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.399 you know how I hated what people can be pigeonholed. 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:50.719 You know, somebody tell you what you can't do, and 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.399 so that was my main goal. Cowboys full of people 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.679 like myself. That's that's what we do, right, that was 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:02.159 our that's our what call him, that's how that's a tradition, 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:06.400 that's our culture. Is guys over achieving, you know, according 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:08.680 to the numbers. So I want to make sure that 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:09.960 they understood that, because. 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:11.359 You needed me in there to introduce you. 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.840 Because you'd be liking a boxing match. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.760 Well, I was saying. I was actually thinking about this 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:24.600 on the drive in. I was thinking, okay, for Everson, 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.160 all right, it's nineteen eighty nine, your last year here, 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:31.280 Jimmy's first year. Okay, I was thinking, just if if 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.960 Everson was a Jimmy guy. Okay, if he had, if 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.359 you had played for Jimmy in college, either at Miami 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:40.080 or let's take. 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:44.040 It to if I stayed here with Alonger with Jimmy. 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:48.000 Yeah, but but he didn't really know what you were 0:18:48.040 --> 0:18:50.679 all about coming in when he comes in here and 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:52.480 you're it's nineteen eighty nine a lot. But if you 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.320 had played for him at Oklahoma State whatever, Okay, and 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:59.200 so he knew what you were all about. Hell, I'm 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.760 thinking he he probably would not have an issue with 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:07.760 your fretnizing after a game. He would understand your value, Okay, 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:10.320 for a young team as well. 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.399 It would be inherent. He wouldn't have to learn about it. 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:15.320 He would already try when you got here. 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:18.040 And and if you just look at the dynamics, the 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:20.200 chemistry of a team which you had a younger team 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.840 coming in, you had veterans, whatever, you might have stayed 0:19:23.880 --> 0:19:27.119 here through the early years and been a part of 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.320 the Super Bowl teams here because you played until ninety three, 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:33.639 and so you could you could have played with the 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.520 Cowboys in ninety two ninety three and may have kept 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.480 on and a couple of Super Bowl rings and then 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:43.040 your legacy here would have been totally different, totally different. 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:43.760 Yeah. Yeah. 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:45.120 Drew Pearson was. 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:46.400 Well, now you get caught between. 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:48.560 And I would have explained that to them. 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:52.680 Get you get caught between, when you get caught between owners, 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:54.040 that's right, and then you get. 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:57.600 That try and you will. You gots transition in a 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:00.000 different place, but it's not the same. 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:00.960 That didn't help either. 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.800 I mean, you for certain, for sure being the Ring 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:04.400 of Honor. 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.240 But that but that's where it was weird. 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:09.920 Just you know, like I said, did they know about 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:12.480 I was the one tray Boma chasing. I didn't bring 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:17.920 that up, but once again I wanted them to understand that, 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:22.600 you know, don't let them write the narrative. You know, 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.080 that's what we do here. That's how that's I am 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:30.800 not unique. I don't care where you've been drafted, signed, 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:31.920 it doesn't really matter. 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.640 Butther up Bill Bates, brother up Bill Bates. 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:40.240 So Charlie Williams brought up the importance of special teams. 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:43.320 I mean, and he was right. You know, it sounded 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.680 like you sala like sitting in He was fagged. He 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:48.800 he said, hey, if you're not you know, if you 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:52.920 have a if it's two guys two third, number three 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.679 DB's and one of you guys are good at special teams. 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.119 You're going to beat out that guy if he's not 0:20:58.320 --> 0:20:59.440 playing special teams. 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:04.080 So it was little nuggets for these guys, which you know, 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:06.280 when I was a kid, I know I did listen 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:06.760 because I. 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:08.720