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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This is nick Shots, streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: We really need a victory tune here to kickoff this week. Here,

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Speaker 3: it's the month of June, and that means that training

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Speaker 3: camp is next month. Football season starts next months. We

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Speaker 3: kickoff June. That's right, and uh, this is mickshots, and

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be about the hottest day going this off

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Speaker 3: Season's up over ninety degrees today. I just looked ahead.

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Speaker 2: They got.

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Speaker 3: Volunteer are OTAs this week, mandatory mini camp next week,

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Speaker 3: and in the long range forecast, I just looked at

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Speaker 3: most of the temperatures on days they'll be working out

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Speaker 3: will be less than ninety degrees the rest of the way.

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Speaker 3: So here it is, this is the day you whip

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Speaker 3: them into shape for training camp.

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Speaker 2: Important day, that's right, that's so important.

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Speaker 3: Make them that's right before we do anything else. A

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Speaker 3: shout out to producer Supreme Chris Beam, the coach of

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Speaker 3: the Consolation champion eight and Under baseball team, his son

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Speaker 3: logan one of the star players on that logan And uh,

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Speaker 3: what's the name of that team, Producer Supreme, It's the

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Speaker 3: wolf Pack. The wolf Pack.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: When the consolation Championship eight and Under baseball, congratulations.

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Speaker 4: Crucial moments where the coach Chris Beam also coach Supreme,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you made some very critical moves do in

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 3: Are you the third base coach? Actually, Bill, you know,

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Speaker 3: I am. I figured going you wave them with that window.

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Speaker 3: One guy was one guy was the third base coach.

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Speaker 5: I'm like that you ain't cutting it to make sure

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Speaker 5: the umpire sends them back.

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Speaker 3: That's your goal, right right?

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Speaker 2: Hey, that was that was the crucial moment.

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Speaker 4: That that moment right there, that's when you guys want.

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Speaker 5: Well the final score of that championship game, which we

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Speaker 5: were playing in an inferior opponent actually twenty to five.

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Speaker 3: All right, hey, well that's of course it was in

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Speaker 3: it for your buddy. You're in the consolation bracket.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was totally.

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Speaker 6: They were.

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Speaker 5: They were the fourth place overall team, so they were

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Speaker 5: actually pretty good and they just did not come to

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Speaker 5: play that.

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Speaker 2: Well, what were you guys ranked?

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Speaker 3: We're like seven or eight, so we want every upset.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we were the visitors, so very good.

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Speaker 3: All right, well congratulations.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, hey they used to and he gets come to

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Speaker 6: work with me today, isn't that great?

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Speaker 3: All right, very good. We expect pictures at by the

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Speaker 3: end of the show. You got an hour to come

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Speaker 3: up with some pictures for us.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I mean they used to play the third not

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Speaker 6: not of yourself, used to play in the NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 6: Remember the third place game.

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Speaker 3: I don't remember that.

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Speaker 6: But like that, this is like the n I T

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Speaker 6: the two games you go to the final four, and

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Speaker 6: the two teams that lost played in the n I T.

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Speaker 3: No nca tournament, I remember it. In the United game

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Speaker 3: no basketball basketball. Well, they used to play the playoff ball.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys played in the nineteen sixty five playoff ball

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Speaker 3: that was which was a consolation when in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 3: five the last game of the year. If you look

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Speaker 3: at the media, guys, the playoff ball, I think it

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Speaker 3: was against Baltimore. You willing that day? Yeah right, but

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Speaker 3: the season was over and I guess Cowboys whoever they

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Speaker 6: Because somebody tried to mention that that was their first playoff.

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Speaker 3: It's like, no, that was, and so there was like

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Speaker 3: a consolation bowl game. Of course, you think about the

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Speaker 3: concept of college ball games and stuff, and so actually

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Speaker 3: college football was more popular than professional football back then.

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Speaker 3: And so okay, we'll go to a ball game show. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's right.

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Speaker 6: You mean you didn't go to it. That's seven and

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Speaker 6: seventh season.

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Speaker 3: So all right, so here we are, Well, you got

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Speaker 3: there's one. We'll spend a bulk of this show talking

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Speaker 3: about what happened on Friday as well. Start, because Everson

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Speaker 3: Walls was a part of it, and it was a

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Speaker 3: big day here behind the scenes because former players like

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Speaker 3: Everson Walls were in the house, not just for a

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Speaker 3: little bit, but the opportunity to spend the day here

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Speaker 3: exactly right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And when I first saw the schedule, I was like, God, damn, it's.

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Speaker 2: A long day.

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Speaker 3: You know that itinerary for you tinerary.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: It felt like we were part of the team and

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Speaker 4: you know that was the feeld that they went for

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Speaker 4: and that was the field that we got.

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Speaker 3: Give us how I did first on who always here?

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Speaker 4: Ah Man Tony Dor said Randy White, Drew Pearson, Timmy Newsom, Uh.

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Speaker 2: Who else? Michael Levan was who's that Bob Lily Lily Man?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Randy, Randy, Randy brought Bob with him.

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Speaker 2: That was pretty cool. But you know, just think about

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Speaker 2: that right to the point.

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Speaker 6: Then he then he drove him home and came back

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Speaker 6: by the Wow Randy.

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Speaker 4: Did almost Hollywood Henderson, I saw that crazy crazy, He's

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Speaker 4: lost a lot of way.

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Speaker 2: It looks good.

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Speaker 6: Hailey was here, of course.

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Speaker 2: Dressed better than I've ever seen him in.

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Speaker 3: Yes, what was the deal?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it was scary.

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Speaker 3: Uh never suit, but he did.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he did even long pants.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he yeah, and he was like walking upright, it

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Speaker 6: I saw Brady James, rocket Ishmael, George Tige was here

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Speaker 6: and uh Camps was here, Dave, Dave Campo, Fitzgerald right, Yes,

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Speaker 6: fitz came in and had a nice talk with him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 6: He was fired up about it because the last time

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Speaker 6: he was here. I took him in the locker room

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Speaker 6: and they wanted to chase us off because we were

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Speaker 6: bothered the players that weren't in there.

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Speaker 3: So about how many total would have been here had.

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Speaker 2: To be maybe thirty.

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Speaker 3: Five, okay, and these are guys that they all had

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Speaker 3: at least five years or more, Sir.

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Speaker 4: I did not know that was the criteria at the time.

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Speaker 4: I was calling Doug Donley, you know, White not here. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Anything about it, Like, oops, he's only here four years,

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Speaker 6: I'll tell you what he can tell you what happened

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Speaker 2: In tampo, not up and talk of course, right.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but they these guys were really fired up about it.

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Speaker 6: And obviously this was you know, Brian Schottenheimer's idea to

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Speaker 6: this current team. Just another step he's taking to uh

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Speaker 6: not run from the Cowboys history, but embrace it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll throw out some other names. Its a supreme

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Speaker 3: just sent me, he said, like Kevin Smith was Vin Smith,

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Speaker 3: Larry cole y Man.

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Speaker 6: I had a long call Larry.

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Speaker 2: He always talks all the time. Right, that is cool.

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Speaker 2: I like him. That when who also still cool?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Charlie Williams Charlie.

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Speaker 6: And you know what the cool thing was is they

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Speaker 6: like Tony dor Set Anthony was with them.

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Speaker 2: Uh and Anthony Junior Jr.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 6: Yes, John Fitzgerald had his wife with him, his son,

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Speaker 6: grand grandchildren. It was it was yeah, it was really

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Speaker 3: Okay, so tell us that's your generat what you got here.

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Speaker 2: And then what happened?

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Speaker 4: Uh, First up, we assembled in the big meeting room.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Soon as you walk in, there's a basketball goal.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this is in the team meeting room or.

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Speaker 2: Team meeting Okay, team meetings.

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Speaker 4: And that was weird. So a lot of energy was

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Speaker 3: And so just former players and current players.

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Speaker 4: Well the current players were already in there and sitting

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Speaker 4: just a lot of energy in there. Like I said,

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Speaker 4: so coach was running things. Shot, he was running things

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Speaker 4: and uh, you know, uh, man, he's energetic, he's energetic,

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Speaker 4: at least at that moment. He had the guys in there.

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Speaker 4: You know, a lot of noise, and they were extremely

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why, that's why the basketball goals in there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's been in there.

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Speaker 6: It's been it's part of the it's a staple.

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Speaker 4: But well then what I guess that's how they start meetings.

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Speaker 4: two legends. Okay, it was it was it was the

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Speaker 4: linebacker you just called his Namerady James.

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Speaker 2: Brady James and Looney Joe Looney.

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Speaker 2: Big? Yeah? Man, it was all up. It was all up. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: He shot how many they.

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Speaker 2: Had some I can't remember how many seconds, maybe in

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Speaker 3: How many of you can make in thirty seconds?

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Speaker 2: That's what James. He made one at the buzzer. Okay,

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Speaker 2: yeah he lost, Okay, I totally got them all right,

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Speaker 2: and go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Then uh he called out all our names, which was

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Speaker 4: very cool.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And you know, you just don't I think with me

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Speaker 4: as well as we get so old, do they know us?

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't. You just don't.

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Speaker 4: Know a lot of stuff going a lot of stuff

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Speaker 3: If you're on TikTok, they would know you.

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Speaker 2: Right there you go, and we're not.

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Speaker 4: And so you know, you wonder if they're surprised at

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Speaker 4: the names, if they recognize anything. Because once we left

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Speaker 4: there after getting a welcome from us, we we all

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Speaker 4: stood up and the guys didn't.

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Speaker 2: Man, they really did. They gave us a lot of love. Uh.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't stiff in there at all. And then as

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Speaker 4: we broke into the different rooms.

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Speaker 6: You went into the physician meeting yes.

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Speaker 3: Okay, back in the team in the big team meeting room,

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Speaker 3: did they go about their normal business that you were

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Speaker 4: After I felt I felt funly introducing myself, I really did.

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Speaker 3: You needed me in there to introduce you.

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Speaker 2: Because you'd be liking a boxing match.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was saying. I was actually thinking about this

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Speaker 2: It to if I stayed here with Alonger with Jimmy.

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Speaker 2: It would be inherent. He wouldn't have to learn about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Drew Pearson was.

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Speaker 2: Well, now you get caught between.

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Speaker 3: And I would have explained that to them.

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Speaker 4: Get you get caught between, when you get caught between owners,

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Speaker 3: That try and you will. You gots transition in a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, with these guys, you know, I guess you know.

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Speaker 4: I just couldn't help. I said, so everything, everything's recycling.

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Speaker 2: So that's what we're made of here.

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Speaker 3: and we got some breaking news from around the NFL

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Speaker 3: Okay, more on what happened on Friday with the former

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Speaker 3: breaking news in the NFL. The Lions, All Pro and

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl center Frank Ragnow has informed the team he

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Speaker 3: plans to retire. He posted a message on Instagram, Frank

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Speaker 3: very trying as I've come to the realization that my

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Speaker 3: football journey is ending and I'm officially retiring from the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Try to convince myself that I'm feeling good, but I'm not,

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Speaker 3: and it's time to prioritize my health and my family's future.

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Speaker 3: He will. He just turned twenty nine on May seventeenth

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Speaker 3: and had two years left on a four year, fifty

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Speaker 3: four million dollar contract that he signed a couple of

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Speaker 3: years ago. Former first round draft pick out of Arkansas,

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Speaker 3: and that's a big hit for the Lions offensive line.

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Speaker 3: They did draft a guard, Tate Ratledge out of Georgia

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Speaker 3: in the second round and a guard out of LSU,

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Speaker 3: Miles Frasier in the fifth round. I suspect they since

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Speaker 3: that this might be coming, and now that we're post

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Speaker 3: June first, the announcement comes and they can take some

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Speaker 3: of that money and it can be over the next

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Speaker 3: couple of years the salary cap hit.

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Speaker 5: By the way, bill, that Hall of Fame class is

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Speaker 5: going to be pretty unbelievable in five years, think about

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Speaker 5: Zach Martin retires Tyron Smith right now?

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Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, Well, am I making too much of this?

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Speaker 4: What's happening? I mean, what happened? What is he?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm not sure what specific injuries that he's

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Speaker 3: dealing with.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if somebody, yeah, gotta.

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Speaker 6: Be twenty nine, that's yeah, pretty soon.

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Speaker 2: That's okay. Yeah, I don't know. This seems like kind

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Speaker 2: of hasty right, nobody just me.

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Speaker 3: He came into the league in twenty eighteen, twentieth pick overall.

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Speaker 3: So what is it seven years in the league, eight

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Speaker 3: seven of them?

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Speaker 2: Right, yep.

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Speaker 3: And so there you go, all right, great investigation, Bill,

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Speaker 3: that's four time pro bowler. And so I'm thinking the

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame is gonna wait on Frank Ragnow for

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Speaker 3: a while. Nothing to take nothing away from him.

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Speaker 4: But that's why I was, where's the lungevity? That's what

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about. If he comes.

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Speaker 3: You know, ninety six games played in the league. It's

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Speaker 3: a tough game to play, as you know.

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Speaker 6: So something the last thing you guys did, did you

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Speaker 6: stay for your barbecue lunch?

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Speaker 2: I did? Yes? Man good?

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Speaker 6: So Kevin Bloodsoe is the pitmaster and the last two

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Speaker 6: years he came to training camp and cooked for the guys.

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Speaker 6: So he's the one that they pulled in the big

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Speaker 6: smoker or whatever.

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Speaker 2: Man. That was nice and that was a beautiful smokers

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Speaker 2: the first.

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Speaker 6: Year he came. He has restaurants in.

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Speaker 2: L the LA area.

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Speaker 6: He's out there, but he's got one here in Corsicana.

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Speaker 6: He's from. He is the biggest Cowboys fan you've ever seen.

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Speaker 6: We started talking and he knew all about these guys,

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Speaker 6: you guys that were there, right, and had a great

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Speaker 6: conversation with him. And I remember when he came two

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Speaker 6: years ago. He brought his cookbook and I got one

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Speaker 6: right autographed and everything, and I told him, I said,

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Speaker 6: I want you to know I used your drunken brisket recipe.

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Speaker 6: He goes, I said, you know the one you said

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Speaker 6: where you don't want to get up at three in

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Speaker 6: eat it that night. You had your method of starting

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Speaker 6: and just finish it off in the oven. He said

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Speaker 6: it worked great. But he was there and he was enjoying.

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Speaker 2: That was a great It was his smoke. It was

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Speaker 2: a blue, beautiful blue color.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's and he said he's going to be there.

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Speaker 4: You were saying something about Drew Pearson. We cut you

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Speaker 4: off on the last break. Do you remember what you're

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Speaker 4: going to say, Drew?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: I asked if he talked.

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Speaker 6: No, Okay, yeah, And the fact that I'm sure he did,

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Speaker 6: but people would have Oh, I know what it was

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Speaker 6: you know, Drew same as you, right, undrafted, yeah right.

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Speaker 4: We were the only ones at the table. At one

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Speaker 4: point one of the employees came up, Oh look at this.

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Speaker 6: No, but my point was there were so many Hall

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Speaker 3: I'm assuming that employee was undrafted too.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 4: Exactly with only two of them were legends. But now

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Speaker 4: it was you know, it wasn't really a bunch of preaching.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody got carried away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael didn't talk to the group, right, he did not,

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Speaker 3: and so there wasn't preaching. There wasn't preaching until he

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Speaker 3: got out on the practice field and before we get

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Speaker 3: away from it too far. Because you challenged me to

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Speaker 3: come up with injury history for Frank rag Now, okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: So here is his injury history. Twenty twenty fractured throat

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Speaker 3: that makes me. Fractured throat during a game against and

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Speaker 3: he played the rest of the game with a fractured throat.

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Speaker 3: Twenty one. A severe turf toe.

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Speaker 4: Injury that causes retirement right there.

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Speaker 3: Twenty two, twenty two, a growing injury. Twenty three knee

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Speaker 3: and ankle injuries along with an inoperable toe injury. Okay,

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Speaker 3: twenty four, get this September of last season, he partially

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Speaker 3: tore a pectoral muscle during a game against the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: He missed one game the following week and played the

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Speaker 3: rest of the season despite it with a partially torn

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Speaker 3: pack and also dealing with the toe injuring. And we

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Speaker 3: asked why he's retiring. I think we know it now,

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Speaker 3: know why.

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Speaker 4: I bet if I was gonna break it down, it'd

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Speaker 4: be the toe. Yeah, because that they took Dion's career

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Speaker 4: and everybody thought he was invincible.

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Speaker 3: And just hope he doesn't have the same lingering issues

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Speaker 3: that Dion has had with his toe.

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Speaker 2: Like Achilles here Sandy's toe.

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Speaker 6: All right, what did Randy Galloway nickname him four toe

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Speaker 6: or something?

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Speaker 2: No, that's not funny, man, Come on, see you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get in trouble. But now, like I said, now a

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Speaker 2: bunch of preaching.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 2: Guys got upset what they had to say.

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Speaker 4: And it was cool to hear because I was on

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Speaker 4: the level below most of the legends in the position room.

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Speaker 4: And but Dixon and and Campo and Charlie they were just.

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Speaker 2: HETEs talking, you know, talking lango and so.

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Speaker 3: It's cool now, Michael said when he got in the

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Speaker 3: position group meeting room with the wide receivers, that Junior Adams,

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Speaker 3: a wide receiver coach, had had them get up on

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Speaker 3: the board. I mean they were doing what they regularly

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Speaker 3: do I in their position group meetings, and they were

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Speaker 3: reviewing some of the things they've already installed, and they're

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Speaker 3: come up and draw it plays, not only and Michael

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Speaker 3: was talking about how when I played all I just

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Speaker 3: knew what I had to do on the play. I

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Speaker 3: didn't know what everyone else was running back was doing,

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Speaker 3: the tight end was doing all this, and they had

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Speaker 3: to know what everybody's doing, and so with pressure on,

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Speaker 3: with everybody in the room, including former players in the

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Speaker 3: room watching, then they'd get up there draw up plays.

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Speaker 3: And so he said, CD came up and then I

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Speaker 3: and he said that they both aced the tests. But

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Speaker 3: those are it's an insight into what goes on during

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Speaker 3: these OTAs. And I was thinking about it really for

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Speaker 3: especially for new players, for the rookies coming in, or

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Speaker 3: even guys that are here for the first time, like

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Speaker 3: in the wide receiver room, Paris Campbell, Jonathan Mingo. It's

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Speaker 3: his first time in the off season here where you

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Speaker 3: can the coach and with a new position. Coach, he's

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Speaker 3: learning how these how these players learn where they are

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Speaker 3: and learning the offense, and really they are positioning themselves

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Speaker 3: for playing time right now because the coaches are sitting

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Speaker 3: here figuring out how can he retain information, how do

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Speaker 3: I need to teach him, instruct him on different stuff,

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Speaker 3: And a lot of a lot of the playing time

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Speaker 3: for the season might be determined with what's going on

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Speaker 3: during these OTAs, just mentally what they can handle.

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Speaker 4: Well, what we learned was something similar to what Tom

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Speaker 4: Landry did. Tom Landry would play the formation at certain

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Speaker 4: times and we hated the defensive calls called thirty one

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Speaker 4: safety zone. And no one ever understands this when I

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Speaker 4: break it down to him. But it goes from a

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Speaker 4: zone to a man to man depending on what the

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Speaker 4: backs do. That's freaking impossible to do as secondary. You

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Speaker 4: go from a freaking zone to man and man with

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Speaker 4: no help depending on what freaking running backs are doing

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Speaker 4: back in the backfields. I gotta look way back into

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Speaker 4: freaking backfield while this guy is running that mean who

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Speaker 4: runs probably a four to three so.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: So anyway, but we played that because Los Angeles rams

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Speaker 4: Billy Waddie.

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Speaker 2: That play call was called the quarterback pass.

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Speaker 4: So when we see that formation and that play action,

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Speaker 4: we immediately go to what the strength.

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Speaker 2: Of that that play.

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Speaker 4: They could change up the play if they want to,

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Speaker 4: which they did, but that play was a successful play

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Speaker 4: for everyone back then. So now when the Cowboys see

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Speaker 4: in the secondary a particular compacted or condensed formation, they

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Speaker 4: play for crossing routes coming not to be necessarily picked

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Speaker 4: up by who you would think, but someone who is

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Speaker 2: Route to come all the way across over here.

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Speaker 4: So playing the formation I never did like that because

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Speaker 4: now they know you're playing the formation, all they have

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Speaker 4: to do is just one route, which if you have

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Speaker 4: a four to seven guy out there at the back

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Speaker 4: from somewhere like Gramley State, everyone's gonna say, hey, let's

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Speaker 4: not run. Was predicated, let's go ahead and change it

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Speaker 4: up because we're gonna have all day to throw on

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Speaker 4: this slow cornerback. So they we had to suffer with

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Speaker 4: that adjustment, but we just played the percentages. So that

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Speaker 4: was a similar thing that they did that we were

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Speaker 2: Pretty interesting.

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Speaker 6: No comment, Mickey, No, I was thinking he needs to

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Speaker 6: do that commercial with Mike Singletary that there's a radio

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Speaker 6: he made a defensive call and it was really long, right,

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Speaker 6: and the gag was, now, what happens when you're air

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But Mickey, you said you saw or or you heard

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Speaker 3: that Michael was out on the phone.

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Speaker 6: Yes, he was coaching, and he was out there with

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Speaker 6: the wide receivers and Haley with the defensive ands and

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Speaker 6: they were coaching.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they were kind of showing them things.

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Speaker 2: They look good, but.

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Speaker 3: People were really, well, that's what we need to hear

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Speaker 3: Michael Irvin on his YouTube video, One of the things

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Speaker 2: I like that. That's funny, she said that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And so this is a guy who was touting his

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Speaker 3: buddy Dion to be the head coach of this team,

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Speaker 3: and he had his doubts about Schottenheimer and Schottenheimer in

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Speaker 3: one day in that meeting room and out on that

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Speaker 3: practice field, and what did that? What he's putting together

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Speaker 3: as far as the culture with this team, uh, he

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Speaker 3: has won him over hand. He thinks that the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: are going to shock the world this year.

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Speaker 2: What was the oddest thing about someone's appearance?

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Speaker 3: The oddest thing about some.

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Speaker 2: Kind of I kind of tricked you on the phrasing

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Speaker 2: of the question.

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Speaker 6: But odd that they were there, what they looked.

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Speaker 2: Like that they were there or not there?

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Speaker 3: You mean as far as former players being there, Well,

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Speaker 3: that Michael was.

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Speaker 6: There, Jerry Jones, he was Okay, No, he walked out

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Speaker 6: to practice.

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Speaker 3: But he wasn't in the team meeting. Yeah, you wouldn't,

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Speaker 3: but he was.

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Speaker 6: He walked out to practice.

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Speaker 2: He was he was not well, he didn't have a presence.

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Speaker 6: There in the meeting room. Yeah, which meant to you.

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Speaker 4: Let letting coach have it, let him do his thing,

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Speaker 4: you know, be under control. Now, I'm not looking over

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Speaker 4: your shoulder. That's the that's the guys, that's the locker room.

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Speaker 4: That's the locker room. I didn't even realize it until

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm like, oh damn, Jerry wasn't there, you know,

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Speaker 4: and it no offense. You know, of course Jerry's team,

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Speaker 4: but when Jerry comes, there is not a football team,

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Speaker 4: just team.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: When when Jerry's there, that's the owner, it's the boss.

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Speaker 4: It's a difference. But when when it just the team

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Speaker 4: feel that I had without even realizing until I've just

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Speaker 4: noticed that he was not there. I thought that made

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Speaker 4: of the.

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Speaker 2: Closest in you know.

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Speaker 3: One of the things that Michael talked about, the kind

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Speaker 3: of the theme of his takeaway was, as he put it,

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Speaker 3: there's competition in that meeting room with the basketball goalie. Okay,

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Speaker 3: competition under pressure is the way he put it. And

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Speaker 3: it was even in the position group meeting when you're

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Speaker 3: they come to work. Whether it's the head coach or

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Speaker 3: And where you can't mail it in on a given day.

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Speaker 2: And I really enjoyed watching the film.

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Speaker 4: I did not think I would because it's like I said,

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Speaker 4: I saw the itinery like, oh my god, we gotta

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Speaker 4: watch film really dragging this thing out. But it was

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Speaker 4: very interesting and I came away, No, it's just practice, guys.

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Speaker 4: I know it's just practice. But I saw, first of all,

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Speaker 4: offensively man Dak CDN pickings.

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Speaker 2: They looked real good.

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Speaker 4: That's on video and on that Friday, So that was

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Speaker 4: that Thursday and Friday, and they were not jogging it.

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Speaker 4: This is you know, the timing was supposed to be there.

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Speaker 4: You know, you felt a little comfortable because there was

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Speaker 4: no rushing thing. I understand that. But the precise connection

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Speaker 4: that you had not with your CD but also with pickings,

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Speaker 4: it was evident on the video and out on the field,

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Speaker 4: but especially on the video itself because you had the

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Speaker 4: could see the connection coming through.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't seven on seven. And while I was watching that.

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Speaker 4: You're looking at the DBS and see how they're being coached.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm trying to got number twenty. I guess

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Speaker 4: it was number twenty Cayer elam man Man it's quick.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's a first draft choice. He just fell out

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Speaker 6: of favor.

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Speaker 2: He did so well, not just uh.

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Speaker 4: And being in the right place, but it was natural

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Speaker 4: the way that the technique came to him. You know,

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Speaker 4: he didn't have to work, and he wasn't stiff, he

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Speaker 4: wasn't step one two, step one. No, he naturally fell

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Speaker 4: into the defense. The strength of it and also the

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Speaker 4: positioning that he was supposed to have. Every time he

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Speaker 4: was critiqued, he was critiqued for doing something well.

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Speaker 6: See, and he's one of the guys. So it'd have

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Speaker 6: been a week ago I wrote about guys needing to uh.

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Speaker 6: You know, we always talk about next guy.

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Speaker 2: Up, talked and talked.

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Speaker 4: I was thinking about that, and he was one of them.

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Speaker 6: He gets a little he's getting the opportunity with here,

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Speaker 6: and there's a chance Diggs won't be ready for the

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Speaker 4: So it looks he looks like he's ready to take

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Speaker 4: that next step because he was playing very good defense

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Speaker 4: on the wide receivers in position at all times, and and.

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Speaker 2: Even Carson Carson.

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Speaker 6: Kayln Carson on video and they're gonna need him.

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Speaker 2: He looked really.

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Speaker 6: Good, because we seem to forget and should not minimize

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Speaker 6: the fact that Jordan Lewis is not hearing somebody's got

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Speaker 6: outside guys if he's inside?

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Speaker 4: Well, at that they were playing Both those guys that

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Speaker 4: I mentioned were playing outside doing a very good job.

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Speaker 2: And this wasn't Walston.

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Speaker 4: These were guys making plays, being in position, and they're

884
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 4: trying to show the guys and see, this is how

885
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: you know that some guys just don't retain things well.

886
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 4: The way the coaches are coaching, I understand they're trying

887
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 4: to make them understand what the percentages are on certain formations.

888
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 4: There's only so much that you can do, and they're

889
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 4: trying to coach that in them. So it's not just

890
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 4: knowing the defense, it's formation and the route recognition.

891
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 6: So predicting what the percentage is that this is what

892
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 6: this route.

893
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: We know it can change.

894
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 4: We don't know that, but the odds are you gotta

895
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 4: be ready for that. And so that to me gave

896
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 4: me pause.

897
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 2: That gave me pause.

898
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 6: So the other obversation I think I can't remember. Did

899
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 6: I say it in the break or now, the speed

900
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 6: at running back was noticeable.

901
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 2: Now.

902
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 6: I know they're not tackling, and I know that you

903
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 6: got to run through every play to the goal line, right,

904
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 6: but the speed at which those guys were moving, especially Williams,

905
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 6: by the way, whatever he had lingering from his A

906
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 6: C L, it sure doesn't look.

907
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 2: Like it's there anymore. Right.

908
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 6: We knew Blue could run, right, Sanders can run. Marfa

909
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 6: even kind of impressive. Uh, he was the seventh round

910
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 6: pick running back from He's like six' to.

911
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 3: Two he's a, big big running.

912
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 12: Back so was your boy, there lip, keckey.

913
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: You, Know but, YEAH i thought that was.

914
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 6: Impressive and then here's an observation from the locker room

915
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 6: On thursday.

916
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 3: When we were in, There.

917
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 6: Dak sitting in his locker. Visiting next door Was George,

918
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 6: pickens AND i got a better impression Of pickens just

919
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 6: watching him interact With dak and how easily he was

920
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 6: speaking to some of the media guys. There there was

921
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 6: no interview going. On we ended up talking college. FOOTBALL

922
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 6: i didn't know that he grew up In, Hoover, alabama

923
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 6: which is right next door To, tuscalaloosen, right that's where

924
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 6: THE sec office is In. Hoover and he was talking

925
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 6: about why he went To georgia.

926
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: And Played jalen Against Jalen tolbert's team in the State.

927
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 6: Champigs you get, right, Yeah and he was talking about

928
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 6: guys in high school and where they. WERE i, mean

929
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 6: he was just very easily conversing and TALKING sec football

930
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 6: With dak And i'm, going, OKAY i don't know if

931
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 6: you know when sometimes when guys get, there we hear

932
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 6: all the other. Stuff and he seemed very relaxed and

933
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 6: very knowledgeable about the game of.

934
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: FOOT i haven't been in the locker room worse pickets

935
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 3: locker in relations he.

936
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 6: TOOK i think he's IN i thought he should be

937
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 6: next To, daker it's on that same, side BUT i

938
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 6: think he was over.

939
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: There it's strategic where they plays, locker.

940
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 6: Right, well there's a Reason parsons is on the other

941
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 6: side Of dak for. SURE i think he's In DeMarcus lawrence,

942
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 6: locker so he's got a prime spot at the.

943
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 3: End but just talking with, him and you, know.

944
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 6: The same thing With Kenneth murray started talking to him

945
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 6: and you, know AND i brought up to, HIM i,

946
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 6: said you, know one of the THINGS i don't know

947
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 6: if you're aware of this or, not but one of

948
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 6: the things this team needs to improve on is their run.

949
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 6: Defense AND i, Said i'm assuming that's one of the

950
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 6: reasons they brought you, here and he, said and basically and, basically, well,

951
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 6: no because you brought it up at the end of

952
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 6: the show last. Week and he said that the first

953
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 6: thing somebody asked him About eberflus and he, said, oh,

954
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 6: NO i, Did and he, said the first thing he

955
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 6: talked to me is about stopping the. Run and he

956
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 6: must have said it three times during our. Conversation And

957
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 6: i'm sitting there going and you, know, after you, KNOW i, Said,

958
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 6: Okay i've written this, before But i'm going to write it.

959
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 6: Again that twelve of seventeen teams last year ran for

960
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 6: at least one hundred yards against The, cowboys and nine

961
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 6: of them were losses out of. Ten so the emphasis

962
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 6: obviously in this running, BACK i, mean in the defensive,

963
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 6: room especially the front, seven is better be able to

964
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 6: stop the.

965
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 4: Run they're going to have to go somewhere else to

966
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 4: get gither enough for.

967
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: That they don't have enough right.

968
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 4: Now and AND i know What Michael irvin's an optimism

969
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 4: that's coming from an offensive.

970
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: Standpoint, Right, uh we're gonna going back to the way we.

971
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 4: Work what uh the year we lost to The, packers

972
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 4: going back to you, know, offense you, know having to

973
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 4: predicate the uh flow of the game for. US i

974
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 4: don't like offense dictating our our. Victories and so they

975
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 4: got to do. Something they just have to do. SOMETHING

976
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 4: i got a lot of. Heart everybody got, heart but

977
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 4: ain't nobody over two fifty you know.

978
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 3: So well, so so the position that needs to be

979
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: up that you're, looking that needs to be upgraded to

980
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 3: stop the run.

981
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 2: Is what we call, it one to the one one one.

982
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 6: Technique and, they you, know and that's a massis's got to.

983
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: Take let's be let's be real.

984
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 4: Guys and they weren't just it wasn't just getting big

985
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 4: guys in the. Middle they were shutting guys, down walling

986
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 4: us off and getting around the outside as.

987
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: Well so you don't just have to.

988
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,439
Speaker 3: Do The they missed the law a lot.

989
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 4: Seet you got to have your defensive ends need to

990
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 4: be styled as. Well, right you got two forty over,

991
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 4: there but he better be a damn good two.

992
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: Forty the guy From Boston.

993
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 4: College he'd better be a, dwhite freedy or whatever on

994
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 4: the coming up as.

995
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: WHY i was high on. That MIKE L, williams who

996
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 3: went To San, francisco went To pick before The cowboys

997
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 3: pick where people weren't.

998
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 2: You better coming some? Force, Man you be coming some

999
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: force on the. Edge.

1000
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 4: Yeah and yet because you will be over there a

1001
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,280
Speaker 4: lot of, times you'll be over there. Outnumbered because teams

1002
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 4: like that are, good they're shutting off the.

1003
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: Pursuit but maybe that's why that.

1004
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 4: Happened to us a, lot especially against The New Orleans.

1005
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 4: Saints that's how they beat us all day long with

1006
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 4: that same.

1007
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 6: Action maybe that's one of the reasons why they've Got.

1008
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 6: Murray and it's hard to tell how everybody's lined. Up

1009
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 6: he's been on the. OUTSIDE i thought he was a middle.

1010
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 3: GUY i don't know what he's at Sea, athletically he

1011
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: can play, either.

1012
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 6: And you know he had he Led tennessee with ninety

1013
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 6: five tackles last. Year he was the team, leader and

1014
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 6: he missed a couple of. Games but they've got him

1015
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 6: Out sandborn.

1016
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 4: And then they got to we've seen it too many times.

1017
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 6: And they can't go down on Over street and it

1018
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 6: sounded like just talking to, him you, Know thanksgiving might

1019
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 6: be his goal to get. Back, so, uh that's for big.

1020
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: Bodies be agile as. Well they need to be agile as.

1021
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 4: Well i've got to see some improvement From nazizzi.

1022
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 6: Is going to be really. Important and then if the

1023
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 6: guy they drafted in the seventh round is It? Toya

1024
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 6: is that how you say? It he's three, Forty so

1025
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 6: they got a big body in. There, now can you

1026
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 6: play damn three?

1027
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 2: Forty what the? Heck they? What what is?

1028
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 3: He this is the second second straight year they've drafted

1029
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 3: a three hundred and forty pounds three excuse?

1030
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 13: Me so we can we can play with ten men

1031
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 13: on the field With they Got Justin rodgers in last

1032
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 13: year's draft who went away since ain't came back and

1033
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 13: he's back now and he's to three hundred and thirty eight,

1034
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 13: Pounds SO i.

1035
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 3: Mean they've they've been throwing seventh round picks in that.

1036
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 12: Position we'll see and they got to.

1037
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 2: Play we do on need.

1038
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 6: Gimmicks but then when you're talking about that outside, Stuff

1039
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 6: Michael parson's got to understand he's got to play the.

1040
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 6: Run you, know his job is not to just shoot

1041
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 6: to the quarterback every. Time he's got to be able

1042
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 6: to stand up.

1043
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 4: AGAIN i must admit he had a little more poise last,

1044
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 4: year Did, yeah a little more poised last, year a.

1045
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 6: Little more, discipline not just chasing. Sacks, Right So.

1046
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm just under some tough.

1047
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: Conditions so you spent a day at practice in. Meetings

1048
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 3: What's michael?

1049
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 2: Missing we really didn't look At.

1050
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 3: Michael, no But i'm just saying in, General michaeh what?

1051
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 3: General What Michael parsons missing by not being? Here?

1052
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: Oh you, Mean i'm, sorry you know?

1053
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 4: What he what he really kind of probably, started you

1054
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 4: know WHAT i, mean because that's the way it. Was

1055
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 4: it was as if he was, there you know. That

1056
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 4: i'm pretty sure he's the one that kind of started

1057
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 4: all the.

1058
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 3: Energy, yeah and the.

1059
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 4: Competition, Yeah i'm pretty had a lot to do with. That,

1060
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 4: yeah he wasn't, There he wasn't. Missed he wasn't. Missed

1061
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 4: SO i think that's a good. Thing he started. It,

1062
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 4: uh the guys that carried on and with the culture

1063
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 4: that kind of he kind of contributed to, us maybe even.

1064
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 2: Created.

1065
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 3: Uh so you have no Doubt michael comes back in

1066
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 3: here and He's, yeah there's no, nobody.

1067
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 6: But players never really do that when a guy's kind

1068
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 6: of angling for a better, contract, right players support the

1069
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 6: player's effort to do.

1070
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: That and and and.

1071
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 3: As far as building the team chemistry that's happening Whether

1072
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 3: mike is here or, not might and he'll fit right into.

1073
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 6: It is that what that's probably the meetings is probably most.

1074
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 6: Important that he's.

1075
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 4: Missing, Well i'm sure some, guys some of the younger

1076
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 4: guys kind of wanted to be inspired by, him who

1077
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 4: are here just got. Here but, uh LIKE i, said

1078
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 4: as far as the entire meeting room was, CONCERNED i

1079
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 4: don't know what's happened in my linebacker, room but the

1080
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 4: entire meeting was.

1081
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: Concerned he was not. MISSING i don't mean that as a.

1082
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 4: Dig things went well without, Him and good luck and

1083
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 4: we'll see you when you get, here you.

1084
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 3: Know, uh but you sound Like shottenheimer really rubbing off on.

1085
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: You is that what you? SAID i did, not but

1086
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: not THAT i. Think but that's the main.

1087
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 4: Thing and and, OH i kept wanting to say the

1088
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 4: camaraderie on the field man With dak AND cd and

1089
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 4: pickings JUST i THINK i may have said, Before, man

1090
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 4: it just really looks.

1091
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: Good, well there was a.

1092
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 4: Play it's good to have it's. Good they got their.

1093
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 4: Money everybody got their. Money we're.

1094
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: Here m.

1095
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 4: Hmm everybody got their money and we are what they,

1096
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 4: say ten toes. Down that's what the young kids say

1097
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 4: to say they are. Here and they are. Jelling they're.

1098
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 4: Yelling they just they're just. YELLING i don't, know you,

1099
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 4: know maybe it's just an.

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Speaker 6: Together so that part of it, all this how they're

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